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for real
this thing (which reminds me i need to turn my sand sample back on so i can get that atomized)
damn thats gonna be a pain
yes
It works on every level it just snap shots the value based on the first level
So if you need 1000 statues to level up with 10% bubble you save 100 statues
If you level up 10 times it will use that 100 for each one of those level ups
Rather than increasing the bonus as the statue cost increases
So realistically its not a big loss unless you're dumping like 20+ levels at once
by the time i deposit it ll probably be around 20 level
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how did you get so many chopping statues, I thought I had a lot but 200k+ is crazy lol
@dapper prism upgrade it by resources
what's the most effective way to increase damage?
Dk farming on beans is the best place to farm chopping and mining statues currently
I've been afk farming with my vman for the crystal spawn chance and doubled drop rate is DK that crazy for statue farming?
Well crystals only spawn while active not while afk so keep that in mind
the multiplier on crystals from orb yields much more statues
But yeah the DK orb is an incredibly strong loot multi that more than makes up for the extra bit of DR vman gets
No class will even come close to DK in statue farming
ayyyy finally got it!
what orb level should I try to get my dk to for active farming?
as high as possible, it increases the uptime
heard
it's only ES you have to think with rest is just more = better
267 with mana PO box is the sweet spot on DK orb
yeah I can't even get close to that my highest possible is 246 atm
need to get eldritch artifact and slug still
gotcha, if nothing else it's something to strive for lol
Finally, Fury Relic, that was like 500 chests minimum....
Anyone trading a slime ?
is trading released?
not that i've heard
ait ait
Planning ahead ๐
How much dmg for kattlekruk 1?
if you can get to him, you will be fine on kat 1
can someone explain how sailing captain stat lvl up? it just up stat on the same amount each level like on lvl 1?
where is the card set lists i thought they were in tips and tricks but i didnt see it
omg finally
gg
finally....
how on earth do you get your MMan strong enough to kill nightmare kattlecruk T_T
whats your damage at?
maybe 30 billion on MMan
Ur chillin then
thats probably not far off from where I did mine
only need to one shot mole i did it with 23 bil
Thats like a 25 min fight but u can do it
oh boi this one pretty good ๐ฎ
yeah i could do it, my dmg is at 35b on vman atm
my main problem with it is running back and forth killing the moles lmao
and i hate doing that for 25 minutes straight
Its not so bad with whip, but yeah its constant clicking
oh, you have to manually do it ๐ฆ was hoping i could just get enough damage to afk kill it
nope, the moles will heal him
FML
your aoe spells don't come back fast enough to keep the moles at bay
unless you get to like 200b dmg on vman
then your punches and crits will kill it faster than themoles get there
Heres a clip from someone of the fight basically
yea ahha its a long fight, but its more fun to have a hard time with vman than 1 shotting him with ES
at least once
ty man
ahahha not gonna farm the cape like that
Three teeth and no cape still .. sad
at least youa re getting some teeth
Yea i can finally make those scarfs now
hides trophy collection
give me 2 D:
These are my first 3 stay back
I am at 1 D:
Yea got pretty lucky today, that was like 6-8 runs only
damn
steam shows an update to idleon? anything happen?
This is totally worth when doing W1 DN, right?
new atom and some translations
nah that was 2 days ago
oh, you mean another. Just figured you were behind ๐
soo nothing any1 actually knows anything about eh?
how to get green and red bits in gaming?
1000Q normal bits is 1 green bit, 1000Q green is 1 red, so you just need higher multi
Yea you will need a decent nugget, snail level, and artifacts
btw its best to get rid of simple plants right away and keep only mutated ones to grow better, right?
i get rid of everyone as long as their not a berri bush or chimichels
i let some cacti live sometimes
zzzzzz
when is it better to start waiting out T5 plants instead of T4?
what level are your poison towers
41
I need to redo that one then im at 40
I used talent reset on my Vman and now my DK dps went down by about 25%โฆanyone have any idea why?
a lot of the talents on vman tab 4 buff account wide
talent 6...the str one too
most likely talent 6
Hmmmm
I just waited it out. But not sure if itโs the best way
Oh well ๐ฆ
think of it this way: Plenty of sweet gains to be made
I'm loving W5, I just arrived I'm like "okay where do I do, what should I do"
but since I need to take a little break
I guess it's the safest thing to do
yeah, the gods are important to unlock asap, at the very least the second one
The first one is also really cool
Is the second one worth to go in my state ? Like i'm quite low xp with noooot a lot of pixels link
At the very least it's good to have - if you need to spend some time sorting out other affairs, such as cards, rare materials etc you have the option to
I waited a week to get a slime pet! Who's proud of me?
should've gotten doot
Slime is more my style personally
I rolled sheepie for the 3rd week in a row
So I just reached w5 and i have a question. Are the artifacts from sailing all active on all chars at the same time?
Yes artifacts give global bonuses to the rooster
thats crazy, thanks!
It is indeed show sailing as much love as possible as it will propel your account (And good luck with the Fury grind!)
Dont know what that is yet but thanks!
One of the later relics, probably the most important one
i'll ask the noob questions, if for example by sailing I get the Moai Head, then the Shrine World Tour from the lab is useless ?
it has a use, just not a major one
doesn't the moai head does the same thing ?
Still can only level shrines if in same map or world(if you have lab bonus)
As I got to w5 i got doot
how good is "no more praying" superbit? should I unequip prayers on my active ES?
dont use that
Got ram, i can access storage anywhere now which is a nice QoL
still no doot tho
what is the max level of shiny pets?
Is there one?
idk thats what i am asking
Dang it seems cool to get
Ah, breeding?
There's no max level I think, but the tiem scales to an inaccessible level eventually
I dont think they have a max is what i am saying
i got 11k gold nugget but it closed my gaming tab and i didnt get the bonus?
is this a bug?
can you use candies in w5?
No
no, the candy would melt
Lava will store aircon into w5 when w6 comes out, you can use them then
mmhmm don't think it gives you the bonus til after it despawns, so you might have lost it
I just lost a 150k to a crash
Been stuck for almost 2 months at 30k 
I even got a photo of the nugget
how many points do i need here to get 1 extra talent level for my ES
cuz it feel like it doesnt work '.'
Wiki page for Es has a calc for it
oh ok thanks
nice, had to level it to 160
that extra talent lvl doenst round right?
Arctis round up, Es rounds down
Also keep in mind that family guy only works for the ES too
Thats true for all classes
yeah. SO i need to get lvl 477 and the talent to 309 to get +1 lvl
I should probably do that at some point too
did u already get bags for everyone?
Yeah
Done with all weapons i just need some carry pouches
niceee
I should get the bags first cuz of anvil vials, but i'll just get vman weapon then weapon for everyone and lastly that lol
im getting 30 hampter per hour so its not that bad
Maybe I'll do it in W6 when we have 21x DR and 172Q ES damage and I get 4 hampters a portal 
does having more of the same shiny pet in the fenceyard increase the speed it levels up the bonus?
So what was the decision making in having the 2nd to last bubble be normal drops for archer and mage ... buuut warrior is a rare drop?
lava thought multikill works on rare drops
what does everyone link to after all gods are unlocked and still need to keep 6 chars in lab? I'm assuming switching everyone to TranQi till i reach level 80, as far as Style goes. Would it just be 1 Purrmep and switching between Nobi and Harriep, depending on what that character is focusing on? Snake for samples
i don't see huge benefits from the others to keep on, unless i'm missing something
and don't care about God Ranks right now
That's what I did when I was there except I just had goat instead of harrierp and just meditated the strongest style I could in divinity
For the guys in lab
Oh but if you have all God's already unlocked you could just go harrierp I guess
ya, just unlocked my last one
I think at that point you're just debating between extra levels on divinity for rift bonus vs some more printing
For the guys in lab
cool, thanks
Reaching the limit for all upgrades in gaming. Is it just rng at this point with nuggets? Log is my Max purchase so far
bubbles/stamps/sailing, but ya.. mostly come down to nugget luck
Dk talent levels help too
It was grindy to get the snail with a 12k nug for reference
is this a solid setup for w5 TD?
is there a minigame for gaming?
thanks i'll try that
i got the cape, but i didnt had the quest and now the quest does not accpet the cape as drop, i need to farm keya and again and hope i get the cape drop again 
damn 3 poison.
It's a little harder than 130 cans but not too terrible
what lvl is your poison at?
hmm i wonder if 3 poisons will be too low for me, wil hope for the best
Now its 70 but I did 130 citric a bit ago so towers were lower
And its hard to slot a 4th poison
The spot that has the frost tower in the pic I linked is out of range for the portal on a poison tower
oh i see, so a poison there wouldnt hit
but wont enemies push after the portal making the poison hit? i doubt the waves will get stopped there
Not when you get to the boss waves with a few mobs left
true
Also you cant actually get quite that close to the portal anymore
I think that pic was taken before the tower snapping update and it added some kind of barrier or something
hmmm
But make sure to put it as close as you possibly can or even the 3rd poison in that setup will barely be out of range too
I had to restart my first attempt because of that
ok ill make sure to do that. Gonna brew some coffee and try it out
a good quality of life (not that important but would be nice) would be allowing players to play TD for highscores without consuming charge
and lava should fix the later waves bosses. There is no reason to make 2 bosses with 845095830543 HP for no reason
cuz if u already had DPS to survive the waves u have enough dps to kill bosses. So its just something annoying
i think u should get like 20x the rewards when you play td vs just worship
Well at higher waves the tanky bosses are part of the difficulty
Losing the dps check is a real possibility
It still takes several thousand times longer than pressing a button no sane man would do that even with 20x
I would agree that its not particularly fun
Not to mention me trying to brake my high score means I need to spend actual hours to kill waves past 130 fuck that
indeed. U are not wrong, but its such a not fun experience that idk, its dumb
But surviving the waves doesnt always mean you will kill the boss fast enough too
cant u always guarantee the boss if u sell all krakens but 1 and build thunder turrets?
dear lord kkkkkkkkkkk 160's
Honestly the part that bugs me the most is the lag more than the actual time itself
The lag just makes the game desync and it fucks my timers
lol true. Yestrday i desync for 40 minutes after my W4 td lol
When I go to sample on Vman, am I supposed to kill nightmare bosses for even more respawn % during run, or does it just count amarok as amarok etc, 1 per boss?
normal. Each boss is considered the same boss no matter the dificuylty
For highscore runs always kill nightmare and for sampling runs it doesnt matter
THank you bros ๐ โค๏ธ
its getting higher
Gotta keep pumping it until you can do hourly luck bubble clicks 
after unlocking all gods, should i just go for 100 div on all chars to get the skil mastery?
That skill mastery is dogshit
but lvl 100 can give u higher minor bonuses, so its cool
After 750 mastery I wouldnt worry about it too much and just use tranqi while doign other stuff
25+ skill ex p on mastery iis the biggest joke ever kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
1% print should be at 1000
You can go back for more levels later to scale minor bonuses but thats a fairly minmax thing to do
and skill exp 2nd or 1st
probably better things to do before that
Indeed, i wouldnt deliberately push divinity exp after 80
would be nice if it was multi 25%
unless i had absolutely nothing to do
lvl 1000 construction on your DK ๐๏ธ ๐ ๐๏ธ
I'll get there one day 
fixed my prints today. Getting everything to 1050M
just missing fishing now
its so newb to try to level a stamp and not having some skilling material!

greestack boyz
Guess I'm a newb 
nice leaf stax
holy shit. 20M kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
what do you use magma leaf for
Nothing

Its a byproduct of my pain and suffering
heh
did you prep the last sparkle and hex?
i was theorycrafting and i reached the conclusion that whoever has a 15k GT bubble and does not have 5k family is a slacker
I think you're underestimating how hard 5k family is
is it tho? what is your bubbo lvl at
Even at that GT level it takes a bit
i hit 4k family last night 
My bubo is 530
My GT is only 7.3k though
And I should also mention that when I called you a noob for not having 5k I never said that I wasnt also a noob

so lets think. If u get 535 on bubo +2 DK, which are the fastest levelers in the game u would reduce 105 levels out of everyone (if u were going to 500 each
so thats 7 characters that go 105 levels reduced!
meaning that each character only has to reach 485
And thats brutal
How do I farm adept recipe faster??
Even getting 450 on BB is awful
change ES for bubo and change back once lvl 500 XD
Active ES and pray
time to jump on that active BM get those breeding levels ๐
And lets consider how that SB is the third fastest leveler in the game, so u get them to 500 . Which takes another 30 levels!
30 levels out of 5 characters
so now each other character only has to get to lvl 479!
Which is still horrible
What is the best spot? And it does matter? For example for boots j need to farm purgatory, can i farm maccies for multikill ?
ES can level decently fast so u squeeze another 500 there!
Also that requires you to active level 2 Sb's to 500
get vman to 500
and then level 500 on bm which is a breeding machine
Which is kinda bad too
Its bad, but it doesnt seem THAT horrible if u have a 10k-15k GT imo

just gotta stick to active farming at wurms and commit
Each map has a different recipe so you farm them all
its possibl i'd say, what do u think
If 5k family was as easy as you think it was then more people would do it
not easy, but need to commit
Not worth the commitment though
yeaaah thats why many people dont do it!!! lack of faith
One obol slot isnt worth the months of other farming you could do instead
1 month worth of farming for nothin,. ez
farming for w6 
1 month he says 
copiuum
If it took a month even my lazy ass would have done it
But I have no plans to even think about doing it right now
but realisticaly, how long would it take to level a BB to 475?
its not that long with a 10k GT '.'
from 390 to 425 took me not even 1 full day
witha 2k GT
hell yeah, better just wait for w6 lol
Yeah and that take about the same amount of exp that you would need to go from 425 to 430
so THATS why it got so hard to level lol
Levels get a lot slower
but my SB could get that level in 1 day also 390 to 450
431 = 12T 496 = 290T
if you have enough respawn equip is it worth active lvling BM??
kills whole map and stands still 
total experience?
The only people that can do 5k as easy as you're claiming are people with weird accounts who only have classes that level quickly
for that one level
For normal accounts 5k is ass
i figured it out dude!. Swap token
3 DK, 3 BUBO, 3 SB. GG
Why spend gems when lava will give me 5k for free in W6 though
just manually collect traps until 5k family 
its not about the reward its about the journey
I need freaking necklaces
for scarf
but getting second wings instead
sure I want to drop wings on every character at some point but not rn D:




want to start super chow on bb
I just want to free my poor DK from the wurm caves
Hes nothing more than a humble bean farmer forced to slave away for a trophy he cant get
btw is it better to do normal or chaotic instead of nightmare for necklace?
idc about irl time
its more about if its better to do lower difficult just because more chances with just lower base chance
like is it better to do 70 normal with 1 in 100k chance or one nightmare with 1 in 2500
xD
Normal will be your best chance
It will still come down to luck honestly, i did 120 chaotic with no necklace and today i did like 8 pull nm and got 3
normal zhizoar is best for scarf drops right? or should I go for chaotic
its still not about saving tickets or irl time xD
1 in 2500 is 40x less than 1 in 100k costs 70x the tickets though
every run is 50 / 50, you get it or you dont 
saving ticket means better chance due to more trials
It is about saving tickets
ticket efficiency you can call it
hmm ig I go for normal runs then until his card is ruby (will take some time because 1k+ cards needed) and go for chaotic after xD
Like its super simple divide the base chance with number of ticket cost and you can see the โdrop chance per ticket usedโ
ok.. yours is more impressive
chaos costs 5 times more tickets, but its slightly less than 5 times more chance
Ill unsoon mine
why that? xD
made me giggle
xD
took me some time too to get to rift 46 but be happy the amount of cards needed for ruby cards isn't normal
look at this
even this
just reminded me to do poop
yw
ty heh
Yeah. I got to 41 this morning, and a way off from 46 it looks like. Not even worried because I don't even think there are many cards that would turn red if I get it
0_0
just start to farm the cards now
and don't miss any day or it will take longer
at least kattle and troll are easy farmable
and you get daily 3 free biggies and one doot and defacus etc
Question about Obols, i know itll be opinion just curious. So my ES and my DK ive given a Pop set, working on dice so their stuff will be drop rate.. what in the world do i put on the other 8, damage?
yeah I seriously wish that the other 3 worlds had farmable keys
would be pretty nice
my obols rn xD
it depends on what you do with them
ok, so you went skill on them, i can get behind that yeah. I know my ES and my DK will be farming, the others will probably be skilling or tubes or div or something, i definitely cant active 10 toons
(ppl don't say anything about my character names I want an item to rename my characters!)
except you use full bear or have doot
i am using 9 bears currently yeah,
but overall you want every single skill set probably once
yeah ill start working on skills for each
I only have one dr set because I use dr only when active play actually
i just dont want to forget to switch between main es and main dk
ill put skilling on the secondaries
but else you want probably a mk set too
ill stick the multi set on Vman ๐
but thats something you should ask ppl who know more about stuff like that
ayyyyyyy
17b next ouch
multikill obols ar eusualy bad
unless its the hyper obol of โper tierโ
yea
cuz its flat multikill so its kinda meh. Getting 1 extra dmg tier will probably be better
well yeah, 40 years from now when i can afford to gemshop purchase the hyper ones
justneed DK and drop rate, then u farm infinite gems if u wnt
im waiting on choco chip for that, dice just seems like a waste of time to farm without it
meanwhile me just farmed enough gems for the key chains wants to farm enough for the w4 ring for speedrun thing but wants the last 2 3d printer slot upgrades too so I can resample.... didn't resample for a long time now...
its gonna be next christmas for chocochip
better farm now thank eep waiting '.'
december 6th is next choco chip right?
what you could do is use vman for really high crystal mob spawn chance
obviously by that time you would finish dice obols even without chocochip
i'd still farm with DK
ill probably start leaving him overnights on snelbies or pots or something, right now my ES is farming out rare mats. i have so many copies of Ice Age 3 if anyone wants to come over for some pop corn
300 for splicers. 120 for jewel, 100 for 10 eventual chiz sets
I do need to farm those 3d printer slot upgrades D:
I somehow want to resample >.>
i hate when they do that
so annoying, thats why i hate retrying TD
thankfully this is my last TD i gotta increase HS
until i get my poison to 70
only problem is that, now that is glitched i prob wont even beat my highscore. dear lord
that sucks.. sorry
I need to redo mine to, i finally got void and poison and ive leveled up others a bunch
oh thats huge, u will prob reach 100 on a few scores
leveling others is close to useless to push until u reach TD120+
even goblin TD to get the prayer u can do with frozone lvl 2, thunder lvl 2 and kraken lvl 2; Only need party and poison
well its only a lvl 2 poison, probably still worthless
poison is more about surviving the early game. So just make sure u have your starting points vials juiced as well as stamps/cards
Aoe but short range
man, voids are expensive
Vman is level 102 chopping and getting about 1300M xp an hour, how's that stack up?
Could you sell and rebuild?
Idk what bug is
sometimes frozone just stop working '.'
so even with enemies withing range it doesnt slow
sometimes it fixes by itself, sometimes it doesnt, u just wait and pray lol
It seems like he has 2 different ranges or something
The visual circle you see is how far the freeze spreads when he uses it
But the range to actually make him attack doesn't always seem to line up with that
hmm makes sense, and it feels like its map related
cuz for example here: Yesterday my frozone was spamming skills even when the monsters were stacked on that kraken wall slowing them down
but now here frozone start using his skill when enemies are literaly on top of him
hmm Does any TD expert knows if its better to do now 2 kraken to lvl 15 or 1 party to 20? cuz its the same cost. wave 110 going to 111
Kinda hard to say but the kraken will be a safer choice
Krakens just cant keep up with the wall
Next few waves are gonna be what makes or breaks your run
dang, over at my previous high score
dang it. what score
83
i hate how W5 td is such a stupid setup
my party doesnt even have range to get all poisons lol
yeah next time i will have to remember that
so it will be 15 A and 9 B
2 turrets BBBB and 1 AAAB
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Are Star talent books listed on a card anywhere to be filtered?
gonna type it down, wont remember it next month when iattempt again
Can a mage and a bowmen help me with king doot
any idea why my harriep/lab doesn't seem to work? The two gold ones are both from ES and they are both linked to arctis and harriep from talent
We just need a bow man at king doot can anyone help
Its a common visual bug. You're still printing the correct amount
gotchu - thanks fam
W5 isnโt the chat. Itโs either w2 or #party-finder-๐ช
is Omniphau bugged ? everytime i claim afk gains (even 1 minute afk) i get 1hour progress on something
No you're only getting 1 minute
The visual indicator always rounds up to the next hour
The actual time is equal to the time you afk
good to know
Is there anyway to see doot pity?
i was afraid of doing this and getting shadow ban or something
ugh, 83 again, just dont do enough damage when they start stacking
What tier is your treat?
Tier 3
Pity starts at 5
Ok ty
TD is all about poison dmg until later waves like 120+ 130+
then cost reduction start getting more important so u can upgrade faster + atom extra dmg
yeah i just dont have enough damage out of my poisons yet
also, probably unoptimal setup
i wasnt because it wanted lvl 32 poisons lol, i was just trying to break 100
The same setup should still be fine even with less than 32 you just won't get to 120+ or anything
100 should be fine though
So why on goblin gorfest when i get to about 116 they will stack up but i will be killing them but the health bar is just black i dont get the kill or points from it and they keep pushing and when the black bar enemies reach the end i dont lose health and they die finally
but because the black bar enemies are still pushing the krakens cant keep up
Do I understand this correctly that there is no daily for w5
If u mean task ye
Yes thank you
Pretty sure its a bug. I've had it happen to me before but not sure what causes it
Well i cant get past 120 because of it happening every time
Do the w5 skilling talents stack on multiple charachters
divinity is per char, gaming and sailing are account wide
No I mean the talents that boost the skills
ohh my bad, no just the best talent
Nope, cant do it, just cant tick enough damage on wave 84 and 85, i end up with almost 1.4m hp stacked up on that ledge
should i bite the bullet?
let's just say i'm a bit close
Do it 
nothing, ty for the push, discord daddy 
is there a place here with TD setups for the achievements?
anyone can help me out with sailing? should i be pushing islands or farming artifacts also max speed on boats? or focus unlocking new boats
focus on boat speed and unlock new clouds when it takes you less than 12 hrs
first four boats will probably be your main island pushers
and then you can increase the speed of all your boats through % sailing speed buffs
If you can beat 130 cans it shouldn't matter what you do for the achievements
Ahh okay thanks man
You can brute force it at your level
do i replace the loot value captains with boat speed or do i not have to worry about that now @vagrant mountain
couldnt do 120. ALMOST did tho. Sometimes i think snare hurts more than it helps
Can still probably do those achievements though
They're all for wave 50. A single poison tower will solo almost everything up to that point
look for boat speed + loot value / arti find / rare chest
boat speed better early
Going for T6 getting boring and slow.. and still stuck on my low nugget ๐ฆ
https://i.imgur.com/GAGHkAv.png
Ive been on a 2k nugget for a month now 
Thing is my spade about to hit 300%
13k feels really low ๐ฆ
And i do 4h logins a lot and check sailing + gaming each time with that. Ton of nugget attempts
my spade is 144% and i have 28k 
I got my first 5 digit nugget since i got this 13k a few days ago, and it was like an 11k or something ๐ฆ
after 5 months i finally went from 17k to 64k
the trick is to move the spade every time
dont want to keep digging in the same spot
cuz you dug all the gold there already

what is your growth speed
3.1 min
damn thats very fast, unfortunate that u cant get the evo
when i got my speed that low it didnt even take 2 days to get each
any specific strategy for you?
draw a pentagram and put your phone in the middle when you click on cactus
u get t6 with cactus?!
Are you supposed to have as high DR as possible when killing giant mibs
in the health PO box when it says %faster regen is that talking about mob regen or something else?
Best to use DK on reset day for orb stacks
2 days seems quick:
https://i.imgur.com/kztlhYZ.png
@bold quiver I tested my soul gains in w3 with and without worship obols and went from 787 to 792 so ig u were right
Thank God - I didn't want to farm worship obols
On the arcade shop, I have lvl 32 refinery speed and lvl 30 multi kill/tier. Which one should I focus on? Or is there anything else on the current rotation that I should focus on more?
Damn how you get so many gold balls
Some forge capacity is nice,
64 max claim and daily claim and spin. Plus some good luck lately.
Got forge to 20 now, ty~
Is it worth to get that if you have automation arm bonus?
Automation arm doesnt continuously refill it on login
So you're still capped for your archer based on ore cap
Oh I thought it refilled it continuously 
Your archers manage to make all bars from ore cap every (few seconds later) or basically, 2 minute logins. So a 2 minute login will make same many bars as a 100h or 5 year afk login
if i have 8.67x drop rate, it is basically the same drop rate until 9.5x?
If online afaik then yeh, but else still capped based on your ore cap
at least for archer talent
You get a lot from farming chizoar so it's not hard to fill up on them lol
Oh you mean the smelting errday talent
whatever the kills for bars talent is called
indeed
Ok just wanted to be sure
o/
https://z_wolf.idleonefficiency.com Where should I focus on alchemy right now? (please ignore all of the undone daily/weekly stuffs. Doing those now.)
probably skilling bubbles so you can improve your prints
you have shown the IE, we shall roast as tradision calls
look at his prints
first time i see someone at w5 printing spore caps lol
there is a straight up guy not even printing

6 characters that do nothing, huge
furnace is whatever tho, no point smelting bars if not using
i upgrade everything until i see red
and then forget that i need 10m for green stack
i am constanly broke on money
@fallen flax do this... Why bother unlocking if u are not going for at least 300
i see he is trying to get stamp mastery
yes if u wanna get good skilling, try to do the skill mastery
whole lot of bonuses
you have 7 ppl capped worship charge, could try make better skulls
i mean if u want to focus alch
So, skill bubbles, fix prints, top up stamps I can do, work on skill mastery, try to remember furnace more often, and remember worship is a thing. I miss anything?
uhh upgrade bubbles that do not cost salt/soul/critter/anvil. Let nblb take care of that
at w5 this is the minimum skull u should hve on everyone
8k frigid is almsot nothing to any w5 player
also, try to buy all your anvil points
put the points into exp/speed
that will help with skill mastery
overall acc looks decent, just gotta pay attention to those little details
also, archers and maestro should be making 1x thread
for exp
everyone else do their own thing
meh not necessary
ok
on anvil u just produce what u need
this^ or we can do the forgor thing and let even prod of all
btw choco chip coming in december, you might want to start anviling pinion spurs
wow
5 months awaylol, he can chill on pinion spurs
u can get that done easily later haha
I need to get better equipment for skilling and killing, too, probably. Should have tab 5 in anvil open soon.
thats true, but i dont want others to be like me and realise a lil too late
like 1hr left to claim to late
- it is a once a year chip
I've gambled 3 move speed chips in a row. I feel ya.
took me 28 chips to get choco chip
most expensive purchase ive made in this game 
not doot?
nah i spent more on chip than doot
dang
im getting like 5 hampters an hour on my es, is it too weak? i swear i was getting more on my bubo
could be the kph
only get to like 80-100 portal
i did 8hr overnight a week ago on my bubo at 5.6x drop rate and i got 50+

i now have 44B
both, too weak and low DR
i shall test tonight
what is your portal score
like 90 avg
yeah too low
wait so does portal mobs drop rares
its a w5 map so ES has a hardtime not much u can do
im stuck on void material bag and the next upgrade that doesnt require salt is magma bag 
????????????? why wouldnt it drop lol
do pearler rares
its literaly written on the skill
saw some guy say only drop base mats
tru
crazy things ppl say here
im a dumbass
but i also need levels on my es, i was hoping to get 200 hampters while i grind 250-300+
i have pearler rares on everyone
yeah right, u only forgot that bubo/dk/sb have better respawn mechanics than ES
andthey get way less rares
pro go for socks for a bit
socks?
the w5 wurms
sentient sock
ES such a bad portal opener
OJ is also pretty decent
i wouldnt without good multikill or if u are planning on boss killing
so you think its better that i just get the levels out of the way than grind hampters for levels?
honestly
me too 
i just want to afk overnight and not have to turn monster mats off
maybe afetr getting pearler bags, you could farm obols
im sorry little one, this is a very hard task to do
ok, you running dr cards
running doublers?
only have top left one
i can get more from chaotic chizoar card shrine effect and still need crystal custard
but yeah idk how you get past 10x dr
Plunderous mob count?
like 8k ๐
shit i forgot about that
i have vman talent i might as well farm it i guess 
Also dont forget keychain that takes so much time to roll that 16% dr stat
yeah i had nugget rng carry me to the next upgrade
should i run card doubler on DR instead of crystal mobs if im gonna be farming hampters? does that 36% do anything if i dont hit 9.5x from 8.5x?
If youre ES farming hampters I wouldnt even use crystal cards at all
Your drops are tied to portal count which is increased by damage
DR and damage cards are all you need
but crystals 
ES gets shit for crystal drops though
Es is fuck all for crystals
You could put your DK on citringes for a day and get as much crystal loot as your Es is gonna get on hampters in a week
If you try to throw a half assed set together where you kind of do portals kind of do crystals you'll just be bad at both
Let ES do what ES does well
I need 1m kills on all w1-3 mobs to get vman right?
And let DK do what DK does well
Does it count bloodlines and detonated rams?
That looks like what I would do yeah
thanks
you got nightmare troll?
nope
should probably get it
but later
๐
Hey! So the reason i had to complain is because if you complain, you get the rng you need.
First I got my T6 Mushroom
https://i.imgur.com/Miv8xPW.png
Then i didn't notice it but while setting up my next t6, i got a new nugget.
https://i.imgur.com/9xMvU4y.png
Yes my new nugget is disappointing af.... 13'553 to 15'695... 
huge gains ๐
The disappointment...
Maybe i get a back to back nugget 
I'm wondering if i should just skip t6's for now and just purely focus on Chems/Logs for more Nugget chances..
Hey, is there a guide for sampling drops with void walker?
idk, wish you could see upgrade chance or something
#1084911530417606656 kinda, more like portal run guide i guess
For sampling => AFK Gain rate + Dmg > MK
Since all your MK will come from the talent
yeh sadly the site was pulled down after the doot ordeal ๐ฆ
So just portal run the the map -> swap to afk set & sample?
Just got Purrmep, does the minor bonus affect everyone or just characters on Purrmep?
Well, the obvious is rush for just the bosses u think u can reach, portals overall are "irrelevant" but get w1-2 hopefully w3 too as bosses. only do them as 1 key (normal) to gain the mob respawn rate stuff. Then yeh, switch gear/stats cards/card set and all that stuff and sample while you have your MK buff on
All
Its sailing and gaming, that's account wide
Awesome! Thanks for the guidance
OKay. I think I am just dumb. How exactly do you get a second god with elemental sorcerer? Polytheism i know. but how does it actualyl work? I do have omniphau
Every point you put into the skill changes the second god you are linked to, go stand under omniphau to drop the skill level to change back to a lower one
Dunno if you saw this
OO I think i degraded to much. does anything rescale it?
Put points back into it
ahh had to change worlds. it didnt initally give back the points. and can i link to a god i dont have?
nm. figured that part out. its a big ol no lol
what is your card setup for when you want to focus on active xp ?
Grind time.
The desert moon card and fly card are active XP multipliers
You also want crystal spawn chance because that's where the XP is
And double chips for these cards
I'm not sure if that is better than crystal spawn chance doubled
what are the best fishing lines and baits for the printer?
well, yes, it depends on his chance of a crystal spawning))
is all w5 skills shared ?
div is not
okay but for sailing i dont have to go to each char and do it
When you get golden hampters on everyone, you will claim on each person
just make sure everyone's popped into w5 at least once
To whoever sent the pic for the baits and fishing lines, thank you so much, I doubled my printer stuff with this
Is es on worms best way to active keys
@agile pagoda Can you put the pic here or in w2 or msg me it?
So late game with breeding do you just continue the same pattern in the w4 question breeding setup? One forager three badumdum on even areas, borger/miasma/alchemic/convertor on odds? (Save first area that is 3 alch 1 convertor.)
also it there a reason to level up Worming Undercover over 100%?
No dk is worms have to much hp for ES to do decent
Nblb is no bubble left behind, yeah?
Yes
Yes
ah so ive been wasting time ๐ฆ thank you for stopping me from wasting more. On that note when should i switch from ES to DK? after W4?
Do I start stacking turkeys for cooking speed?
get void man to max out his cooking skill, then use https://www.idleonefficiency.com/world-4/cooking sorted by time to cook next. thats the real way to boost cooking
you can, it's OK
I believe you dont see a major cooking speed increase until around 1300 total meal levels.
From vman.
As in level for level its kind of slow until then.
I am trying, but my maestro is still lv 116 with shit for damage
it really is
255
yeah I need to do that next
yeah its like the one skill that has exponential returns as opposed to diminishing
It really is
+25 levels =
Im at 239, feel like its good enough
just every Total level affects the bonus from this, or is it every x that doess?
6 levels gonna be a 33% increase total lol
XD
I got like 10 book levels and it doubled my speed
Dang I was like dead on
talent is super broken
30% lol
Does species epoch on vman work for everyone even tho it doesnt say that? or just him
Didn't realize the exp from vman talent is also pretty big
went from 16x class exp to 22x
Exp cultivation is additive right? Good for people without big GT bubble yet
ye my GT is only 5k
Cannot for the life of me get ancient/eldritch fury relic. My rng is ass.
Well mine too, 100 lvls into exp cult is only 114% fairly easy to get on gt bubble
How do u get 255?
shiny pets with relic chance will help
Im still trying to finish filling out my areas with correct pets for spices. I guess i should focus a cpl shinies out rq.
slug, es family bonus, elite class symbol talent
I don't have slug :/
Our talent max 245 and that vman talent dont get any bonus point tho from slug or es bonus
also relic for max lvl, atom upg for book max lvl
None of the +lvl things work on most if not all vman talents tho
i have +35 in vman tab
Yes thats my point, 255 prob typo right?
Only works at top talent vman
oh slug doesn't affect vman talents?
I have +10 from ES and maxed out 245 skills so it doesnt apply
ok
the bottom 2 rows of Vman can't go above standard max. So you're stuck to level 245 from library book max
btw, 2vmans is sooo good
Yeah i guess he probably typo 255
speedrun record work for both
I thought there is a new way to get +10 more max levels
is this active even if i didn't unlock it yet?
yes, its inf star
you can't get ring drop without aligning to it even with infinite
rly?
infinites do not give bonuses unless you have unlocked them
so i need to unlock this first to give its bonus?
sec... let me test
yes. correct. Was tested during first week infinites came out.
What levels should I upgrade my cauldrons too before pushing for all bubbles?
starsigns are global. You'll need to change maps to see changes
still 4371
relog to verify
I believe the only time you need them unlocked was when you want to double it with chip
Atleast thats what i thought
same
nice
so, no need for unlock
Yeah I know you need it unlocked for doubler
#justlavacodethings
but some I don't care to unlock
nice so i don't have to find those constellations anymore
in first week it was bugged
incorrect show amount for inf starsings
i was had ~10, but game shows 20+
sry for my poor english, haha
can you only see the level of shiny pets in IE or is there a way to check it in game?
pets tab
theirs a shiny tab to show days left to unlock the level
ohhhh tnx!
infinite starsign gives effect even if the star is locked. Only reason to unlock is if you want to apply double chip effect by wearing it
big nuggets... but not big enough
sorry had to one up you
16 nuggets to dig, hopefully my luck will get me a new nug
All good i was baiting for one to see high number
Man 16 nugs is like a warmup before I start my chem train 
Iโve mastered rolling 200 nuggets
kind of makes the think of the former SR-71 pilot telling some funny stories to an audience about flight speeds to Air traffic controllers, ever heard that one?
Nope cant say i have
I'm still stuck with 4k 
its worth looking it up, because the pilots delivery is phenomenal, but the essence of the joke (true story though) this guy was overhearing basically a pissing contest between various pilots who were "checking in with ATC" to get their relative ground speed, starting off with a Cessna, and the ATC says something like "ive got you at 210 mph" then another pilot chimes in on the comms asking for his speed, ATC kicks back with "ive got you at 330mph" this keeps going for a while until a guys flying an F-16 (or some similar model cant remember exactly) pipes up and (in an attempt to establish clear dominance over the skies) asks for his relative ground speed, and ATC holding back a chuckle responds with "im reading you at 1242mph, have a nice day!"
This whole time the SR-71 pilot has been enjoying listening in
and in the most modest tone he opens up the comms and asks ATC to check his ground speed
Ah i see how that can be comparable to this haha
and ATC hits back with something like 1900 mph
i got some of the numbers wrong but the essence is the same, i just checked and found the actual story
Major Brian Shul relays the true story of a ground speed check with Los Angeles Center, while piloting the SR-71 Blackbird over Southern California.
Hiller Aviation Museum
San Carlos Airport
San Carlos, CA
- December 2016
he tells it way better than reading it lol
!!!
is there a most efficient pet to hatch for xp once you unlock all pets?
they allgive the same xp
Nope, but donโt forget to upgrade egg rarity and the โnothingโ upgrade if you want breeding exp (and hunter talent)
Higher tier eggs give more exp
which class is the best to get 3 rift tears? I tried on my DK but only got 1 in 60 mins
might just need more DR?
I always did ES
i'll try my droprate preset on my ES for an hour
Whatever respawn class is strongest for you; ES, DK, SB, or Bubo
I did it on my ES last night - dunno how long it took cos I was half asleep at the time lol, but by the time the episode I was "watching" finished I had 3/3
oooh we're farming obols baby
maybe my dmg is lacking, especially now that i'm favoring DR over dmg cards
Mine usually go pretty quick just because the meteors tend to clear the map constantly
what rift and whats your dmg
For some reason my captain shop only gives me 1 captain reset daily even though I have two unlocked