lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[terse yacht]

If you have all the regular artifacts for an island, you wont get more for that island

The chances for artifacts dont change

[steady beacon]

Well the chance seems to drop per artifact found on an island.

Eg 5% if no artifacts found, then 1% after the first.

[zealous niche]

Yeah, because it is the sum of all artifact’s chance

[steady beacon]

So wondering if finding the ancient version of the first artifact drops my chances ofunlockint the basic one

[zealous niche]

So, say, you have a 1% of a normal, 0.1% for ancient

three artifacts on the island, none discovered will show 3% chance. Discover one, it’s now 2.1% two at 1% and one at 0.1%

Each artifact has its chance

[ebon dome]

Why is my exp/hr so bad with 9 characters on Mantra? Surely i should receive (9xp * 16h) worth of exp atleast??

[terse yacht]

Because thats for one character

Not the sum of all characters combined

[edgy osprey]

It shows the gains for that char, but they are applied to all other chars as well

[ebon dome]

Ohhhhh

So that exp is also given to all my other chars when i claim on it?

[zealous niche]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[ebon dome]

Ohhhh that makes alot of sense now

I was so confused at first 😅

Cheers guys!

[native dock]

What's a good build for speedrun vman? i recently got him and my talents got reset

[oak tartan]

wow! I got goat on the first or 2nd 1%!

Should I leave my characters in the lab or altar when using goat? Does souped up tubes work with goat?

[teal lynx]

Goat activates when you are in Lab. So u get Lab and Divinity Progress at the same time

[oak tartan]

Ah ok thanks! I will move all the shrines and characters to w4 then

[teal lynx]

I am not sure what you mean with "Do Souped Up Tubes work with Goat", since they are exclusive to Lab

[teal lynx]

Can never go wrong with Points in Talent 1, 2 ,3 and 14

[oak tartan]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense now. I thought that you can gain both divinity + lab exp by sitting on the altar.

[fresh plank]

How to get these for slab, when Im too high level in dungeon already ;-;

[teal lynx]

The meta for now is keeping all Shrines in W4 Town. Most of the People are there
Also the first Sailing Artifact enables all Shrines everywhere, so u never need to move them

[oak tartan]

Thanks! I had all the shrines in w5 because almost all of my characters were afking in w5 altar. But moving to w4 since they are going to the lab

[teal lynx]

To you have them in your actual slab? Thought Lava gave them retroactively. Might be a bug with IE

[fresh plank]

Dont have them in the slab yet

[teal lynx]

Did u do some Dungeons in the last time with Vman? Might Update after a Dungeon run

[runic girder]

Have you checked slab in game?

[fresh plank]

Oh, does it update stuff levels below it?

[tacit tulip]

think it's meant to for these, not tested it myself

[runic girder]

It should

[fresh plank]

I havent checked yet, doing dungeon now

Just realized, cuz I started w/ wrapped gloves, instead of boxing

[gentle furnace]

doesnt matter, it will automatically count the previous ones if youre wearing the highest tier

[stoic verge]

Can anyone show me what an endgame cooking roadkill looks like?

The big bubble for cranium cooking

[weary hinge]

longer way, but this works for me already

not my atom bubble priority yet

[signal osprey]

Endgame can hourly click that bubble so some people have it pretty high

[weary hinge]

i should do that. im just lazy

[signal osprey]

Mine is like 1600 and there are people who have it even higher

[stoic verge]

@signal osprey can you show me?

This is mine rn

[stoic verge]

Ah i see

How much progress do you get per cranium?

[signal osprey]

I'm getting around 400k

[stoic verge]

My last one was half that so i still have a ways to go

Do you use last map in w4?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

Er no. Last map in W5 I mean

[stoic verge]

Yea sorry i meant w5

@signal osprey thank you for sharing

[still apex]

How long is your cooldown?

[signal osprey]

The cooldown timer says like 37k or 39k or something I dont remember exactly but when you factor in tent its like maybe 15-20 minutes

At this point I have roughly 50% uptime on CC. The cool down is nearly half way recovered by the time the buff ends

[still apex]

So that's 20 minutes for 100 hours of progress

Does that even matter to you anymore, I'm talking liquid wise

[signal osprey]

Yes I have to do bubo 2-3 times a day to refill cauldrons

[steady token]

hourly click need too much liquid

[signal osprey]

End game alchemy attempts to print 1b of as many resources per hour as you can so you can level up bubbles every single hour without atoms

[steady token]

especially with 10 elephants/doot

[signal osprey]

And liquid cost unfortunately doesnt ever stop scaling

[still apex]

Oh I didn't know liquid cost got so high

[signal osprey]

Yeah I use probably around 1.5k of the first liquid every hour

[untold saffron]

At what point did the diminishing returns start kicking in hard on this?

[wanton obsidian]

@signal osprey could I see your ie?

[signal osprey]

https://weebgasm.idleonefficiency.com/

[signal osprey]

Probably like 1000 levels ago lol

But I can print 1b an hour in 1 slot so it doesn't really cost much to level it up

[opaque sun]

fortunately, hourly click log based material bubbles are relatively easy

[tacit tulip]

not taken an ore sample since I started on this one....probably should

[crisp silo]

holy

[oak tartan]

does nobisect bonus apply to BB's zow/chow?

thanks! will use it

[gilded escarp]

These aren't unlockable rn are they?

[sick sentinel]

Did u unlock the boss armor?

[gilded escarp]

Ohhhh misread it lol

Merit shop, not the one for the task point thingies

Ty haha I'm just being very stupid

[sick sentinel]

Nah ur good i see the confusion

[gilded escarp]

I was also hoping to be able to use my 10k pts

[west depot]

Should it not be a different bar

Or is this normal?

[gilded escarp]

Yh the dreadlo uses starfire

[tacit tulip]

this game infuriates me

I spent hours doing poing and got like 11k

while my partner was doing something I leant over her and did 1 round and got her 15k T__T

[signal osprey]

Does that mean I should have you do my kruk keys?

[tacit tulip]

maybe, though I did get a cape in about 6 runs

so might have used my luck there

[signal osprey]

[tacit tulip]

she has the chopping highscore achievement and I don't for the exact same reason btw

asked me to set a decent score for that chopping damage% skill and I got the achievement first try 😄

[signal osprey]

I've gotten so close to that achievement so many times

Always just a little short though

[tacit tulip]

it feels like the hardst of the 4

I can do the other 3 really easily

[signal osprey]

I'm too bad to do that one and the fishing one

Although fishing is the one I've played the least so that probably part of it

[tacit tulip]

I have to play it for a few days to get into the groove

Kinda get the feeling of where each power bar sends the lure

[signal osprey]

I need to keep playing them to get the super bit multi but most days I just forget

[fresh plank]

How to do this if drops are at a 100% :0

• Treasure hunt #1

[signal osprey]

You can pick them up despite what the video says

[fresh plank]

Bamboozled

[signal osprey]

I recall it being a little buggy though. Took me a few tries

[fresh plank]

Ok tenk

[olive kestrel]

you can also loot filter it after 4 drops

[signal osprey]

Does that actually work though?

When you filter an item it technically still gets counted as a drop

[wanton obsidian]

Hi! It doesn't say what your liquid /hr is

Can I ask what it is?

[signal osprey]

Roughly 400k seconds per CC

[wanton obsidian]

Oohh

That's so cool

Like 3k per cc

[leaden pike]

Wow, how did you get to 30/hr? Im at 5-6

[wanton obsidian]

How many times can you cc a day?

[signal osprey]

Then theres a stamp for liquid rate and the salt lick bonus as well. Those are the biggest boosts

[leaden pike]

Nice

[signal osprey]

And I CC like 3-4 times an hour

[paper sail]

Yeah stamp is massive. The rate boost from the cauldron itself is rather pathetic

[wanton obsidian]

3 times per hour wtf

[signal osprey]

I'm getting close to 50% uptime on CC

By the time my CC ends its nearly half way off of cool down again

[wanton obsidian]

Wait how do you get your cc cd that low

[runic girder]

Tenteyecle

[wanton obsidian]

OOHH

That's hella cool

[runic girder]

Yep

[signal osprey]

This and tenteyecle

[runic girder]

That and PO alchemy box and cc bubble reduce the cooldown on it

Wait PO is only duration

Not cooldown

[paper sail]

Mana Box for Cooldown

[runic girder]

Thats the one

[runic girder]

Whats your base cooldown?

[paper sail]

That's sad to see. I'm at level 750 with 110%. Gotta double my levels for 5% more

[signal osprey]

Like 37k or 39k or something I think. Honestly dont know off the top of my head and I only play bubo bare minimum to sustain my liquid

I mostly do DK

[median bobcat]

Can someone explain how the goat god from divinity is working?

[runic girder]

Sit in lab, also do divinity

[signal osprey]

If you sit in the lab while connected to goat you also get div exp/points as if you were on the altar

[runic girder]

Not much to explain

[median bobcat]

Just unlocked him but kinda confused

Ah but how can I select which style? Or is it just using basic?

[wanton obsidian]

I thought bubo was better than dk? Is there a particular reason why you prefer dk?

[paper sail]

They're a little ahead of me, but for reference. 22k cooldown left by the time my CC ends

[signal osprey]

Go to the altar and select then go to lab

[median bobcat]

Thanks!

[signal osprey]

There isnt really a best active class as they do different things

[wanton obsidian]

Really, such as?

[tacit tulip]

there's certainly a worst active class 😄

[paper sail]

Yeah, you can't just sit on 1 class forever

[signal osprey]

Dk farms statues and gold food better than bubo

[tacit tulip]

Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals, though do spawn more mobs), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops

[signal osprey]

As well as you get increased construction gains while on a warrior

[wanton obsidian]

I noticed that too but is that a hidden multiplier or something?

[tacit tulip]

not hidden, just not obvious

the warriors rule bubble isn't applied -to- warriors, but is active when you're logged into a warrior

so you only get the benefit when on the dk

[signal osprey]

Or technically BB but we dont talk about him

[paper sail]

I wonder if I can get my Carptener into atom range if I disconnect vial doubler

otherwise gotta wait for 200

[wanton obsidian]

Ahhh!! Okay I get it now

[signal osprey]

Even with disconnected vials I was almost 200

Think I was 196 when it hit atom range

[paper sail]

Boo

My min is 184 atm, so that'll still take some time

[signal osprey]

Granted that was with level 10 iron bar vial and like 40 completed vials or so

So if you have less than that you might get it sooner

[paper sail]

same 10 iron bar vial, but closer to 30 completed vials

[tacit tulip]

right, 200 more hampters and I'll have colo bags on everyone

at which point I think I have to stop neglecting the anvil

[paper sail]

7:00am my last CC ended. 7:08am my new CC starts, 35k cd

8 minutes of downtime ain't too bad

[frigid acorn]

with 5 min of cc time

[haughty cove]

what the build in arena that are possible to reach 50?

[signal osprey]

Yeah it gets pretty nice. Now if only I could pull a doot so I get arctis talent levels to make it better

[paper sail]

I am still running Arctis on Bubo, no doot either

[signal osprey]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[haughty cove]

ty

[signal osprey]

I run harriep currently

I spend most of my time on DK only using bubo to refill cauldrons when I run out so he can just sit in the lab the rest of the time

[paper sail]

yolo

Es double linked to Harriep

[paper sail]

CC just ended, so yeah 5-6 minutes of uptime, 8 minutes of downtime.

[signal osprey]

Both ES on omni second link

[vivid plume]

question should i farm rare drops on my dk or es??
ran out of ghosts so i cant do doot

[signal osprey]

ES

[vivid plume]

alr thx

[paper sail]

Everyone just chillin in lab for you?

[signal osprey]

Pretty much

[paper sail]

My first 7 are out doing shit, last 3 dupes in lab

[keen berry]

How does this work? I have my blood berserker killed 100 mil mushroom, but it doesn't add anything.

[paper sail]

Is the Vman talent leveled?

And do you have 2 or more BBs?

[keen berry]

I have 2 bb

[paper sail]

AFAIK still bugged / bad design, only kills on 2nd BB count for Super Chow

[signal osprey]

Yeah I had to do full chows on the 2nd one

[keen berry]

How do i know which one is 2nd bb.... I did killed 100 mil on my latest bb...

[signal osprey]

Whichever one you created 2nd

[paper sail]

By character index/slot should be

[signal osprey]

My BB's were my 2nd and 10th characters

I had to use the one that was character number 10

[keen berry]

I did killed 100m on my 2nd bb, my 8th char...

[paper sail]

When you click on the talent on BB, does it just say 0 completed for you?

[opaque sun]

you need to swap out the 2nd bb to dk, or do kills on 2nd bb

[keen berry]

Yes 0 complete

[paper sail]

@signal osprey old druid icon man, does yours say 0 too or proper display?

[opaque sun]

If you have 3 bb, needs to be done on the 3rd by the way. Not like you should have like 3 of them

[signal osprey]

Make sure your vman is on the right preset too. If you have the enhancement unlocked on one and then swap to the other it will still show that description but you wont actually have the talent unless you level it up again

[paper sail]

Maybe kill some more? Could be a rounding thing if card shows 100m, could really be 99.6m

[keen berry]

I only have 2 bb, my 4th and 8th char, i tested 100m kills on my 8th char, adds nothing. Is it based on the time when i choose the elite class?

[signal osprey]

And yes rounding happened to me on a couple mobs too

[keen berry]

It's 104 mil

[sick sentinel]

Cloudsave maybe?

[wanton obsidian]

How about the SB?

[keen berry]

I tried refresh the game enter and exit gem shop, still none.

[signal osprey]

SB is just to stack this. Hes pretty bad at everything else unfortunately

[paper sail]

SB is basically only for Plunder kills for the talent. Anything else is worse than the 3 classes mentioned.

[signal osprey]

Link IE

[sick sentinel]

This is bb kills on the card right? And not deathnote kills?

Gotta get the dumb questions out of the way

[keen berry]

Huh?

[wanton obsidian]

Isn't SB good for farming boss loot?

Ooh I see

[paper sail]

That's Vman's job for world bosses, DK's job for minibosses

[signal osprey]

Idleon Efficiency

[sick sentinel]

Sb is second best for world bosses at least

[wanton obsidian]

Why specifically dk for mini boss

[signal osprey]

Yeah SB is best if your vman doesnt have the damage for a boss like NM kruk

[glad mountain]

is this a thing?

[keen berry]

I think this is based on the creation time of the BB. I don't remember which one i turns into bb first..

[wanton obsidian]

So sb for mid game before vman gets dmg?

[paper sail]

Orb kills can be stacked on the Sticks / Purp Shrooms before summoning Slush / Mutated Mush. The bonus DR from Orb counts for the miniboss kills.

[wanton obsidian]

Oohh I see

[signal osprey]

Well even in midgame vman can probably handle most world bosses. Its really just kruk thats an issue. But yeah any boss vman cant do you would like to do on SB instead

[paper sail]

Same concept applies to Colos, by the way. Final wave has Baba Yaga, Biggie Hours, Slush, and Mutated Mush. DK orb applies to all within Colo.

[wanton obsidian]

I see I see

Ty for the answers

[signal osprey]

Do you have an Idleon efficiency page? If you link that I could probably find whats wrong faster than us doing a Q&A

[keen berry]

I don't have one...

How do i link it

[signal osprey]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[keen berry]

What should i look in here

[paper sail]

Top right > Public Profile after you sign in

Upload and provide the link to us

Just lets us view your stats and such, not giving us any control to modify anything

[keen berry]

https://asnava.idleonefficiency.com

Like that?

[olive kestrel]

yes

[keen berry]

Idk if that can show what's wrong with my bb

[olive kestrel]

which mob did you 100m kills on BB

[keen berry]

Green mushroom

[olive kestrel]

So when you are on your BB and go to cards it shows 104m next to it?

on the gmush card

[keen berry]

Yes

Yep

Did it on my 8th char, the last BB

[teal lynx]

It has nothing do to with your Problem right now. But please do your Minibosses on DK

[keen berry]

Why?

[teal lynx]

Gems, Candies, Keys, Ladles and Eggs
Not sure what else they give

[olive kestrel]

they give great rewards, and they have a cap of 10

[keen berry]

Oh 😅

[warm beacon]

And take more days to get back the more there are

At least 2 is optimal fyi, so once every 7 days

[teal lynx]

Slush also drops that Skull from time to time. It is used for the last Worship skull which gives 3% all stat iirc

[keen berry]

I have many of those, but i don't think it give 3% stat...

And why on my dk?

[still apex]

It makes the best skull which does

[warm beacon]

Nah it’s used in the recipe for the skull that does

[prisma furnace]

You get high orb count and then kill the bosses, for much more loot

[keen berry]

I see

[warm beacon]

I hate salts I hate salts I hate salts

[keen berry]

I'm kinda low on salts

Btw, how's with my bb problem 😆

[olive kestrel]

no clue tbh, I would say maybe try completely closing game and reopening but if that doesn't work then you might randomly gain the benefits in like 2 days for no reason at all

[keen berry]

I've tried reopening

Maybe i should try with my first bb

[signal osprey]

Are you sure that you did a full 100m on that one specific BB and not just 100m on the death note?

[tacit tulip]

honestly maybe, we did have one person who's first bb counted

they were playing on mobile tho

[keen berry]

I'm on mobile

[tacit tulip]

could be it, then

[signal osprey]

Hmm thats the first I've heard of that although I cant say I'm surprised

[graceful island]

has anyone had their other card tabs and skill tabs reset after the last update or just me?

[keen berry]

Maybe it's based on the time i created the bb. I might accidentally make my 8th char as first bb.

[signal osprey]

Mobile never seems to function the same

[keen berry]

🥲

[tacit tulip]

Talents and cards are stored locally (not on the save) so if something messes up your local install, like a patch, they can be lost

[signal osprey]

Just to make sure again what exactly did you check to confirm that it wasnt working?

I'm not sure if you ever told us that

[paper sail]

Mman's stupidity with multiples on Right Hand buff is the same I believe. Different on Steam than Mobile. One uses first Mman, the other uses last.

[keen berry]

Any tips how can i increase my dmg, i feel my dmg is kinda low for 12k str

[wanton obsidian]

Can I post my ie here to see what I could improve in?

[signal osprey]

Mostly gonna be just get more strength although the base damage bubbles scale very well for damage too

[wanton obsidian]

I'm still in w4 but I'm nearly w5

[tacit tulip]

yes but the answer is probably "alchemy" 😄

[signal osprey]

The answer is always alchemy

[keen berry]

The last bubble is already too expensive to upgrade, i just rely on free daily bubbles

[signal osprey]

Do this one

[keen berry]

Bruh how cud u level it up to 4081 🤣

[glad mountain]

are construction exp statues multiplicitive ?

[tacit tulip]

big prints

[signal osprey]

I print over 1b oak an hour

[glad mountain]

so not worth to farm?

[signal osprey]

So I can just level it up every hour

[keen berry]

I only print 50 mil oak 🤣

[wanton obsidian]

https://vinnnyy.idleonefficiency.com/

Could you check?

[signal osprey]

Not really no

One of the worst statues

[glad mountain]

oki thanks!

[hoary light]

bro how does one even reach 1B oak an hour lmao

that's a mind boggling number to sample to me

[paper sail]

Not even a question. Alchemy. These first few bubbles should be hundreds, if not thousands.

[signal osprey]

Depends on what you mean by 1b

[keen berry]

Absolutely no idea, how much chopping efficiency you have

[signal osprey]

Getting 1b total isnt bad when you add in lab/harriep

Also you can print on multiple characters

[wanton obsidian]

Yes but I want you to know I'm new so I haven't had enough time to accumulate enough materials

[signal osprey]

Getting a 1b oak sample is a bit more work lol

[keen berry]

I have like 3 bil efficiency, but it only print 50 mil

[hoary light]

^^^^

[wanton obsidian]

Though I've been slowly working on it

[signal osprey]

My ES currently has about 3.3T efficiency iirc

[teal lynx]

This is already 300 mil with Lab + Harriep. Do it on 3 Chars and you are nearly at 1B an Hour

[keen berry]

Oh 50 mil base on each slot. And it's blue. Ahhh you mean on several characters!

How do u reach 360 afk gain.....

[signal osprey]

Yeah you can start getting 1b+ an hour without needing 1b+ samples

[oak hemlock]

Guys, there is picture with all what i need for sampling?

[signal osprey]

Although getting 1b+ on a sample is pretty doable too given enough time

[keen berry]

Where do i see this

[tacit tulip]

Finish your key quests - they're a useful resource and you're missing out
Stamps are quite neglected. Level them, and consider getting some of the easy ones you're missing
Do more alchemy, you want 20 bubbles unlocked per world. As yuou're in w4, you want 20 bubbles of each colour. Cosnder printing skilling resources to getbubbles levelled. Total levels help a lot
For now, use your worship chars on characters that are low level. You want to level them up, to equip better skulls (and in turn get better worship charge_
Same for trapping but it looks like you're kinda doing that. A nature (green trap) on each character on your highest unlocked critter is a good idea for levelling prog
Your cooking needs work but it doesn't pop off until you have the yellow bubble related to it, so not a huge focus rn

[signal osprey]

Thats on IT which is another 3rd party tool like IE. IE has a similar page although it doesnt give as detailed of a breakdown

[paper sail]

and with Harriep

[keen berry]

Yes on which tab?

[signal osprey]

On IE go to world 3 > construction > 3D prints

[paper sail]

IE just shows total, not the nice breakdown of multis

[hoary light]

My main issue with getting big samples is that I need my guys linked to the bear to keep lab nodes lit up

[oak hemlock]

@signal osprey dude there is picture with all what i need for sampling?

[glad mountain]

is anvil statue kinda worth farming?

[keen berry]

I printed total 274 mil oak log

Is there a rss max cap for bubble?

How much is it??

[tacit tulip]

1bil max resource for each bubble

[keen berry]

1 bil???

[tacit tulip]

and an atom amount that is associated with it

[keen berry]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

I didn't know that! Hahahha imma start upgrade my lowest bubble! Hahhahaa

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084953188647583819 I usually just refer to this.

[keen berry]

How much the max amount of rss in storage before it reset to 0

[tacit tulip]

that bug should be fixed now

[signal osprey]

Theres the chop chart picture too but its a little out of date

[tacit tulip]

the game limits your stack size to 1050, and anything over is converted to atoms

[keen berry]

I remember the stack disappear after i reach certain amount

Which sucks

[tacit tulip]

yeah that was an old bug, shouldn't happen anymore 🙂

[keen berry]

So it's maxed out at 1.050 now?

[tacit tulip]

Yep

[wanton obsidian]

Tysm,
for stamps I'll make sure to find more stamps to help my ES scale more and
for alchemy I'm slowly working on it
On worship I'm focusing on the blue soul to unlock the tier 4 anvil
On trapping I actually have everyone already on void traps not nature trap

[keen berry]

Well, dunno, I'm on mobile, all glitches happen there

[oak hemlock]

Oh thanks)

[tacit tulip]

The atom system was put in place specifically to address the overflow bug that made your stacks despawn

(it would break at 2^31, or 2.1 billion stack)

[oak hemlock]

@signal osprey which cards u up for 5* by rubins for sampling?

[tacit tulip]

Max stack is now 1bil, so you shouldn't lose the stack

[keen berry]

I still can't imagine how someone reach skill afk to 360%

[signal osprey]

I farmed every card that gave efficiency or afk gains

I also did all of the easy resources regardless of what the card gives to get the 5* set bonus

[oak hemlock]

Oh...its sooo much time...

[signal osprey]

It does take some time but it pays off in the end

[keen berry]

How much chopping eff you have to reach this?

[signal osprey]

I think I was around 3T at the time of that sample. Maybe a little bit less

[keen berry]

That's a long way to go 😅

I'm only at 3 bil

[signal osprey]

We all gotta start somewhere

[tacit tulip]

the more you print, the more you increase

the more you print

[signal osprey]

When W5 first launched I was printing like 2m oak or something

[keen berry]

That a great clue.

Deity boost a lot

[signal osprey]

I mean 2m including deities

[keen berry]

How could u jump from 2 mil to 1 bil

😅

[buoyant valley]

w5 brought so much efficiency buffs

between new tools, new armor, and artis

[sick sentinel]

Atom collider and new gear

[signal osprey]

General rule of thumb I followed for most of my time playing over the past few months was whenever I pick a task to focus on I would ask what bonuses would increase my samples the most

And then do that task

If it didnt help sampling I just didnt do it

[keen berry]

I see

[signal osprey]

And once you start making enough atoms to comfortably spend on bubbles you invest them into bubbles that boost sampling to get more atoms

[keen berry]

Idk, 270 mil oak per hour seems very slow atom generator

[signal osprey]

Thats plenty to get started with early bubbles

Just dump atoms into bubbles 1 2 and 3

Also it doesnt help that you are only printing oak on one mage and copper on one warrior

All of my mages and warriors exclusively print logs and ore

With the occasional fish exception as needed

[tacit tulip]

I'm a VERY lazy gamer, here's my sample vs my mining bubble 3

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/ZoVfjrf.png

FINALLY

Been 0.3% chance spamming for... 3 weeks or something

[tacit tulip]

Welcome to cyclical chem hell

that reminds me, yay snail 5

[tight saddle]

waaaaaaait this is broken

it's like the time skip seed items lol

[tacit tulip]

Yup

[tight saddle]

Daaaamn

[tacit tulip]

they spawn rarely (1%?)

and give evo level ^2 hours

so 1,4,9,16,25

[tight saddle]

I just got one first sprinkler after unlocking it xd

[tacit tulip]

what ends up happening is you have many, you exhaust all your plants/squirrel/log/shovel etc, then use one, and repeat

[tight saddle]

oh god

Gonna have to resign from work I guess

[tacit tulip]

if you're (un)lucky you can spend hours cycling plants

[tight saddle]

Thanks obama

[hoary light]

Do you save up the chem plants until you have a bunch?

[tacit tulip]

Some do, I don't bother

this just sorta happened, every tiem I get low more of the bastards spawn

[hoary light]

and you still have that many? bro I barely get one or two a day lmao

[tacit tulip]

between sprinkler, log, and using the chems, I keep getting more

I got fed up after 4 hours of clicking and haven't touched it for a few days 😄

[tight saddle]

No need to spend DNA anymore?

[tacit tulip]

You're free from DNA

[hoary light]

truly is a beutiful feeling

[tight saddle]

Hmm wait

even you have only 15k nuggets

Is this lucky?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah that's a solid nugg, a god one for where you currently are

[hoary light]

If it makes you feel any better I'm at 68k and he's like 20x further than I am in it

[tacit tulip]

it took me 6 months (December -> June) to go from a 10k nug to that 15k one I have

[hoary light]

yeah the nugget waiting sucks pretty badly

[tight saddle]

It's just rng or has there been any new info on the spade?

[tacit tulip]

It's rng, weighted on the low end

the exact maths are known, but it doesn't really matter, just gotta get lucky

It's something like a 1-1500 roll, multiplied by your shovel %

[tight saddle]

ahh

While we're at it, I've always wondered if the guild "set as wanted" actually even matters - is it actually just to tell the guild what skills you want them to focus on leveling?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, exactly that

"i want this pls", doesn't actually force anything

[tight saddle]

Ahhhhhhh I'm free!

Thanks

I really need to get some of those note treasures...

Got diamonds the other day and my damage went like 10x

[teal lynx]

I opened like 200 Chests and got no Notes :(
Went back to earlier Island to get all my Boats ready to comfortable reach that Note Island

[tight saddle]

D:

I'm also in the middle of a SAILOR PURGE

Had so many 0 tier sailor with cloud reveal as well

[teal lynx]

I was really unlucky with Sailing in the last few weeks. Put all my luck into Eldritch Fury. Got Ancient and Eldritch in less than 100 Chests

[tight saddle]

Trying to swap them all

[tacit tulip]

honestly, eldritch fury is a good thing to use your luck on

[teal lynx]

Yeah. But no Ancient Steak yet or anything past that Island. Still pretty Midgame in terms of Sailing

Also finally forcing myself to Green Stack World 2-4
Really just letting the Game Idle and checking it every 10 min

[prisma gate]

what is the optimal strat for sailing actually? i just have an even spread for every island, with a few more on islands that i don't have ancient versions of artifacts

[hoary light]

how many people does it take in the lab to light up all important features? It's taking me 7 rn to hit all but I want to rebind my gods so It's pretty annoying having 7 of them on the bear

[lost beacon]

get doot

[teal lynx]

I believe 7 is for EVERYTHING. I believe most people use 6 and do not light up that Cooking Jewel in Top Left of Lab. They turn it on when using Ladles

Like the 7th Char is only for the Cooking Jewel

[buoyant valley]

unless doot

[sick sentinel]

8 is for everything, 6 does that ^

[buoyant valley]

then everything gets lit up

[signal osprey]

Move the first character slightly to the left to swap the bottom right blue jewel for the top left purple jewel when you use ladles

Never bother with the missing orange jewel because its kinda trash

[solid haven]

is pong laggy (occasionally freezes) for everyone else?

[teal lynx]

Oh it was 8. Spreading misinformation sorry :P

[hoary light]

yeah Okay that saves me one guy at least, not too excited about the ideo fo just dumping money until I get doot so I'll settle for that for now

[buoyant valley]

just get doot from weeklies, honestly

[hoary light]

assuming i get it before they cycle

[buoyant valley]

understandable

[hoary light]

but yeah that's what I'm gonna try

[tacit tulip]

The theory is that doot will be the permanent big boi and the other stuff will cycle

[buoyant valley]

wasnt the other theory that bosses would be the cycle too

[hoary light]

I mean that would make sense doot is just a tad bit game breaking so I can't imagine another big boi like that being added

[buoyant valley]

and we still dont know if it will be just kinda cosmetic changes, or buff changes

[paper sail]

I'm still holding onto the theory that the buffs will stay the same, just attached to visually unique companions in future rotations

[buoyant valley]

yea

[placid mural]

oh hadnt thought of that

[paper sail]

Like a little Biggie Hours that follows you around instead of Doot, but still gives the same "all div link" buff

[feral hemlock]

Which bubbles to 500 first for bigger oak/copper samples?

[paper sail]

O1-3, P1-3

[signal osprey]

My theory is that we never get another set of companions

[feral hemlock]

https://sherpan.idleonefficiency.com/

[signal osprey]

Lava won't want to deal with another dootpocalypse so he just quits while he's ahead

And just continues normal development

So round two of pets will always be coming "soon"

[paper sail]

So jealous

[placid mural]

hes done it boys

now for theContract

[paper sail]

I'm almost to 300 kills with no cape

[feral hemlock]

I only need to kill kruk with vman.... But vman dmg sux...10b lol

[signal osprey]

As if thats gonna happen

374 kills now

[placid mural]

i predict it will wappen before the end of the year

=p

[plucky lintel]

is there a guide for card farming for skills

[frigid acorn]

cardDR

[hoary light]

I mean I feel like all of the higher tier pets are very good, I can pick up all of my items now instead of 10% of the 900m copper I got overnight, I get all big bubbles always and +25 skill levels

[teal lynx]

I personally really wonder how those Expeditions work. A W2 feature that still needs to have relevance in higher Worlds. Just endless scaling of Health with rewards like in Rift?
Hope lava did not just copy + paste rift

[paper sail]

card dr + afk gains

[hoary light]

all are pretty nuts

[plucky lintel]

okay thanks

[frigid acorn]

moar candies , is it easy ?

[tacit tulip]

It'll likely require you to have sailing unlocked to participate

[placid mural]

seems to be a likely prerequisit

[teal lynx]

Uhh Interesting. This would work
Have not thought of a possibility like this

Teasing W5 content in W2

[frigid acorn]

new thing to send your character to any island for exploration something i read

[signal osprey]

The real question is how much the mechanic is going to inflate our afk gains since lava seems to enjoy doing that lately

500% afk for chopping samples soon

[placid mural]

i think it would be cool if there was something added to prop up the "booking" process, like 40 books gets you an entire skill page to max lvl

[signal osprey]

Books get pretty fast later on anyway so maxing pages isn't too bad

[brave escarp]

That would be awesome. It would make Killroy really good as well.

[prisma lance]

Help me to describe how sxxtty is this thing

[placid mural]

yeah but even with decent library speed, i get 1 max talent book every +/- 10 hours, thats 2 skills per day, 15 skills per talent page, and 4 talent pages, and 10 characters, so you are looking at 300 days to max all talents for all characters, at which point the talent max will have been increased most likely so you have to start over the whole process

[signal osprey]

You can get 4 to 5 per day later on

And you're also assuming all talents need to be maxed

Some are just kinda shit

[placid mural]

that would (more or less) be the goal, so even if you take out a handful of skills, to "not max them" and double your library speed, you are still talking about 100-150 days

[signal osprey]

I already have 3 characters that are basically "done" with books and 3 or 4 more that are mostly done

[placid mural]

and that all goes out the window the next time there is a "+5 to max talent level"

[signal osprey]

Do it again 🤷‍♂️

[placid mural]

thank god slug wasnt that way

[signal osprey]

If you think about it him raising talent levels and us rebooking is a good thing

[teal lynx]

Just gamble. Click 1 Book at a time and wait for the Dopamine to hit

[signal osprey]

Id rather rebook the same good talent over and over again than book bad talents because I have nothing left

[buoyant valley]

i did that and just tried for 195+, only have 210 max right now

[signal osprey]

Like I just finished going through and doing tab 1 flat health on warriors for the .01% efficiency increase

I would love for him to give me another 5 levels so I could do that into tab 1 skill efficiency instead

That would be a tangible increase on everyone

[keen berry]

How do i get link to IE again?

[buoyant valley]

no point fixating on getting max, when i know im going to upgrade in future. just need good enough

[signal osprey]

Top right of the web page click the little person and view public profile

[keen berry]

I mean web address

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[keen berry]

Thankie

[signal osprey]

Id keep it open or bookmark it. That site is pretty useful

[keen berry]

What is this supposed to mean?

[placid mural]

does W4 DN multikill affect the rift?

i guess it doesnt really matter when your rift is high enough, good luck getting MK on them

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure its kinda bugged right now.

[keen berry]

😅

[signal osprey]

Yeah I did my super chow with no multikill

Took a bit but wasn't too bad

[placid mural]

i wish i had stuck my BB in there at rift lvl 1

granted i dont think the super chow was out yet

[signal osprey]

I was done with rift before it came out

[worldly dune]

should my sample be so low?

[signal osprey]

Thats a pretty vague question

[worldly dune]

cant upload a picture

its 40k in the slimes

[placid mural]

do you have Vman?

[worldly dune]

and i've got 900k kills

no with es

in mushrooms * not even slimes

[placid mural]

but do you have a Vman?

[worldly dune]

yes

[placid mural]

then do you monster matt samples with him during a portal speed run

[worldly dune]

ow i'll try thanks

[placid mural]

that 40k will be 400k or more

[worldly dune]

that 40k is it a bug tho?

[signal osprey]

What's your sample size %?

[placid mural]

ES has far more important things to sample than slimes

[worldly dune]

can i check my overall sampling rate somewhere?

[paper sail]

I sampled on my Vman for the first time inside a speedrun. Was 25x higher than outside speedrun. 125k to 3m

[signal osprey]

When checking your skill levels click construction

It will show that characters sample size%

[worldly dune]

83.2%

im getting like 2m oak from him but i tried to sample the shrooms and i get 40k

with almost 2000m dmg

[signal osprey]

Well monster samples are always a lot smaller than skilling

My biggest oak sample is 1.1b. My biggest gmush sample is 3.6m

[worldly dune]

ow

[granite grove]

skilling also takes multi ore/log/fish/bug into account, while monster drop doesnt have those and not affected by DR (could be equivalent to multidrop in in a sense) sooo

but then its normal for monster loot sample to be tiny in comparison to skill drops

[zinc torrent]

How does multi chance apply to multi drops from efficiency? Multi afterwards?

[signal osprey]

Yeah the multi drop chance is a separate multiplier

So getting it capped at 300% means you get 300% more ores/prints

[rustic garnet]

has anyone noticed losing a single level on snail?

[vocal ibex]

Im on second to last map and trying to get artifacts been like 2 weeks

[rustic garnet]

yep, you'll be on that longer

it's slower the further up you go

[prisma drift]

Honestly for me they all have the almost the same odds past fury

Only noticeable difference is when they get bigger chests

[stoic void]

What should I focus on gearing all my toons up with next? troll/magma head or body?

[feral hemlock]

Guys whats the best way to level up my maestro trapping lvl i think gotta redo the trapping to best exp choice but still....

[prisma drift]

I just need to get all my boats to last island

[vocal ibex]

So what's recommended for the last islands ?

I am on second last one. I have a whole bunch of captain with artifact find

Level 10+

[elfin flicker]

is Funny hat reward from idle skilling a good headgear for maestro?

or are there other Best in slot?

[snow kelp]

Currently on my maestro to level trappering use 8hour xp qty x40 exp trap on blobfish(last critter) . Get about 106-212 exp a day. Cause I only collect twice...

Crystal countdown at max level also gives me 79% exp reduction needed.

I also have transfusion lvl 132 being used. And skill exp prayers maxed and not equip for 20% effectiveness.

[fathom lagoon]

For some reason on my BB/DK, alch bubble upgrades are so cheap for orange bubbles & on my Sb/BM same for green bubbles but for my ES it doesn’t do the same for purple bubbles? All have similar % reduction bubble level as well as the “cost” upgrade in the boost section

So confused lol

[sick sentinel]

Bubble 2 affects those

So class specific upgrades are a thing

[fathom lagoon]

Hmm weird my green & purple bubble 2 both around level 80

[snow kelp]

See above for other response. This is image of mine atm

[sick sentinel]

Warriors get the extra reductiong from bubble 2 for orange cauldron

Oh the main question was for es

Would need to share your ie

[fathom lagoon]

Oh you know what it is

I haven’t leveled up severapurple

[snow kelp]

Bubble 2. Enhances all bubbles for specific class. Purple=mage. Green=archer. Orange= warrior

[fathom lagoon]

Which multiplies the bonus for 15th bubble which is the % reduction bubble

[sick sentinel]

Ye that would prob be it

[rustic garnet]

62 doot kills:

[sharp wind]

whats the best trophy for afk?

[sick sentinel]

My bad for not compeltely reading your question right

As uou know reading hard

[fathom lagoon]

Nope no worries you helped answer anyway heh

[snow kelp]

When counting bubbles do not count the large ones. 15th small bubble.

[fathom lagoon]

Was driving me crazy, also wow makes a HUGE difference getting that bubble leveled

[fathom lagoon]

Yep I figured it out

Was the 17th bubble I didn’t have leveled

[snow kelp]

Second bubble is great for the talent point enhancement ❤️ it.

[fathom lagoon]

I love 2nd bubble for maxing meat shank and overclocked energy heh

[snow kelp]

Discount function not sure it matters once you start using atoms.

Does the discount affect atoms needed?

[fathom lagoon]

I’m still 38m construction away from unlocking atom collider lol

Only at like 55k build rate an hour rn

[sharp wind]

whats the best trophy for afk fight?

[snow kelp]

Honestly would say Kattlecrak divine trophy. Lvl 450.

[sharp wind]

i mean except kattle

[snow kelp]

I goofed. Sorry. Not that one.

[sharp wind]

gatekeep by vman

[snow kelp]

Confused it with the back one.

Idle skilling one if you were able to get it at the time.

[sharp wind]

i mean for fight

[fathom lagoon]

Steam gatekeep

[sharp wind]

fight afk

[snow kelp]

Sorry I am dense and tired. Battle... can't think of one. Missing a few

[fathom lagoon]

Can prob find a list on the wiki. I am not experienced enough to know either

[bold quiver]

is 30 hampter in 1 hour good for ES? first time farming it

[fathom lagoon]

Brave is here he can help lol

[fresh plank]

Is it better to get base multikill or %afk for dna sampling?

[sharp wind]

too good... i got 100 around 5-8 hours

[placid mural]

probably afk %

[sharp wind]

anyone know whats the best trophy for afk fight except kattle?

[flint viper]

are the 1% offerings for div worth it?

[prisma drift]

Finally fixing your slab

[placid mural]

respawn necklace from dungeon? or chizzoar scarf

[bold quiver]

haha im only missing the gloves on slab weapons

i had already crafted the other 6 when i was doing 1B at stiltmole

[grizzled elk]

nothings really awesome for fight afk, money or xp trophies if you need that

[bold quiver]

gonna try hampter on DK later

[sharp wind]

def scarf

[placid mural]

dungeon neck has doube the respawn rate though, so if damage isnt a big deal go dungeon neck for extra respawn rate

[sharp wind]

i want to max my afk gain for DN

[grizzled elk]

maybe critter baron on archers or w3 trophy if the dmg boosts you up a mk tier

[tight ridge]

bro im too addicted to active bubo it feels like i waste so much playing anything else cuz i miss out on cc

[fading cape]

so I've made a bunch of silver defense obols through combining. But it's still not being marked on my slab. And I can't drop an obol can I?

[sharp wind]

is this thing better stay at lv 1?

[fading cape]

really depends on where you are. By levelling it you're going to end up sacrificing multikill if your damage slips.

But multikill doesn't impact your kills for opening portals and deathnote. Only actual kills do that.

So by levelling it high you're choosing to do one or the other

[sharp wind]

my damage 40b-70b

[grizzled elk]

mk doesn't effect deathnote or portals? since when?

[green eagle]

it's really only useful when you're pushing a world and you have little to no MK

[sharp wind]

so if i want to eclipse better to use the prayer or no?

[green eagle]

this is wrong, MK absolutely affects portals and DK

[tardy plinth]

what does this relate to?

[fading cape]

ah. my b

[snow kelp]

Snail in gaming. 611 billion green bits to unlock snail.

[green eagle]

i'm sorry idk what you're meaning here

[grizzled elk]

snail is a gaming upgrade

[sharp wind]

if i want to go for eclipse deathnote (1b kill) better to use this prayer or not?

[grizzled elk]

probably not, that prayer is dependant on if the -dmg lowers you a mk tier, so I don't bother with it

[green eagle]

this garden boy

[sick sentinel]

Usually no since it can take you to lower multikill tiers

[sharp wind]

alright thanks

[tardy plinth]

Ahh ok ty. I am nowhere near that currently. Been stuck on 4500 god nug for months ;-;

[green eagle]

if you go down a MK tier, don't use it. if you're in the middle and it doesn't make you go down a tier, go for it. it doesn't give you as many kills as MK does, so that's why if it drops you a tier in MK turn it off

[sharp wind]

alright next question, is it better to up the prayer or stay at level 1?

[grizzled elk]

doesn't matter, don't use

its so dependant on your current stats and dmg requirements, we can't give you advice without a ton more info

[green eagle]

eventually your nugget luck might change, or you could be like me and eventually level other things enough to unlock the snail. eventually the snail is fantastic

[sharp wind]

well alright just let it be at 1 then thanks

[sharp igloo]

At what level does the cranium cooking bubble stop being worth it to upgrade? Or does it never plateau?

[grizzled elk]

check idleon toolbox

[green eagle]

this is mine, but my damage makes up for the decrease it gives me most of the time. i ONLY use it when pushing portals or if using it doesn't make me go down a tier in MK

[grizzled elk]

theres diminishing returns as you level it

[green eagle]

it's up to your own account progression of when you use it/level it

[sharp wind]

gotcha thanks

[sharp igloo]

But like when does it start getting so slow that its not really worth investing in anymore? Im at 192 right now, and it still seems to be raising the % every few levels

[grizzled elk]

on idleon toolbox you can see how much it will increase with X amount of levels into it, it depends on how much you want to invest in it, I haven't focused on mine yet so its only at level 200, I'll probably pump a couple days worth of atoms in it until 500 or so until I'm ridiculously endgame

[green eagle]

working on those last two salt lick upgrades. now that i've gotten lvl 750+ in trapping i've swapped back to other critters so I should be able to start speeding through them after my 40 hour traps hit

[signal osprey]

I should probably finish the pingys someday too

[tight ridge]

should i have everyone on fury relic or just my fastest boat

[sharp igloo]

I would do everyone who can get there in 2 hrs on fury

[tight ridge]

none can get there in 2 hrs xD

[sharp igloo]

Then id probably wait

[grizzled elk]

whoever can get there in 2 hrs, anyone who can't farm their speed mats

shit wrong reply my bad

[sharp igloo]

Lol all good

I finally got eldritch fury 2 days ago after weeks of having everyone there

[grizzled elk]

but on IT if you haven't messed with it much, it shows the %effect you're at for your bubbles, it helped me to make a benchmark to aim for and just go through leveling your bubbles to 75% or whatever then going through to 80% and so on, ignoring some bubbles

idk how progressed you are so sorry if I'm giving shit advice lol

[sharp igloo]

Ive seen that on the idleon wiki, but idk if thats the same as toolbox or not. The only things ive used are the wiki and idle efficiency

[grizzled elk]

toolbox is similar to efficiency, they both have useful features

[sharp igloo]

Ah okay cool, Ill check it out, thanks

Is rift 41 the hardest one before ruby cards?

The one where you gotta kill all the ghosts before they respawn on 3 guys

[grizzled elk]

I think 43 gave me more trouble at the time, 180 orb kills on DK, but that was a few updates ago and theres been new bonuses since then so it might be easier for you than it was then for me

[sharp igloo]

Oh dang, my DK is hella weak lol. I had heard about one where you needed 120-200bil damage and so I pumped my ES up a bunch for that, but he can't even do the ghost one yet, and I definitely don't have 2 other guys that could lol

[grizzled elk]

I forget what my dmg was but I had to really max out everywhere I could to get them done

[signal osprey]

To unlock all rift bonuses you need like 120b ES damage and a few other character at probably around 70b-100b or so

SB and DK included as there's an orb and a flag stage

[vagrant thicket]

Can someone tell me if the special offers în gem shop got changed?

[sterile sundial]

Not this time

[vagrant thicket]

I can't join because I can't update for 8 days

This sucks

[grizzled elk]

hopefully you don't have the 10 hour prayer on

[sharp igloo]

Lol forreal

[serene solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403268844384419841/1132337851816747169/image.png

pg

but rip my atoms

[manic moat]

what perk allows for more talent points added on the first point upgrade?

[grizzled elk]

STONKS! maybe?

or symbols of beyond?

depends on what you're talking about

[manic moat]

right when I put one point on a skill from 0 it goes up to 12

[grizzled elk]

theres multiple things that make that happen, the arctis god in divinity, family bonus from ES, and symbols of beyond skill

[hardy quarry]

Does the ES desynch screw up reset times even after you've logged out and back in?
My reset times were at a predictable time a while ago but they've drifted to some really weird time

[manic moat]

what is symbols of beyond?

[grizzled elk]

last skill on tab 4

[manic moat]

nice, thanks for the info

[elfin flicker]

black pearl don't work on divinity?

[grizzled elk]

mines drifted back like an hour and a half and stayed there for the past couple weeks

[sleek fulcrum]

Is it better to have happy cat rock on or off when using Chen plants?

[lapis mesa]

When doing sailing, do you guys split boats kinda evenly towards islands? or just spam a spefic on to hyper focus the resource or artifacts?

[grizzled elk]

focus on good artifacts

[sleek fulcrum]

Honestly depends on how badly I want a given artifact. Once I have the good ones I even out until the travel time gets reduced to the next stage

[young blade]

keep upgrading or give some love to %?

[sterile sundial]

I think the meta is to spam level to 12

[grizzled elk]

with new atom I don't think you need to encourage at all?

[lapis mesa]

well ive got up to island 9 unlocked, but only one boat to reach in decent time, so i wasnt sure if focusing a couple islands to super gear a couple boats might not be a bad play

[grizzled elk]

I'd focus island 9 with whoever can do it in minimum time, and farm mats for the slower boats

[sleek fulcrum]

Not a bad play, I’m usually transitioning between boat upgrades, artifact focus, and unlocking the next island. Usually based on time threshold

[grizzled elk]

you have the other artifacts unlocked up to 9?

[sleek fulcrum]

Fox has it right

[lapis mesa]

almost all, missing 2 i think

[grizzled elk]

maybe grab those depending on what they are, then farm mats to boost up your boats to run island 9, thats a good artifact

[lapis mesa]

yeah, yarn and fury are the only ones i dont have unlocked, i tried to send everything at fury when i first unlocked the island but figured i was losing progress since it was averagin 7 hour trips. i have upgraded the boats since though

[grizzled elk]

just to make sure we're on the same page, island 9 is fury right?

[lapis mesa]

uh, thought 8 was fury

[grizzled elk]

yarn is meh depending on how you're doing on sigils

it always threw me off with how the islands were numbered, the first island is counted as island 0?

but regardless, get fury as soon as you can, its a keeper

[lapis mesa]

alright, ill forgo island 9 right now, see who can make a reasonable trip to fury and send the rest at the resources for my slowest boats. thanks for thinking it out with me

[grizzled elk]

when its feasible get 9's relics, theyre good too, fury is better though

[serene solstice]

should I use midnight stopwatches when I don't have spare dmg rings from flurbo shop?

[signal osprey]

Fury is island 9

[serene solstice]

no its 8th

[signal osprey]

The confusion is because both islands and clouds start at 1

[grizzled elk]

its the 9th island, but when you're unlocking the clouds its cloud number 8 I think

[lapis mesa]

so it cloud 8 but island 9?

[signal osprey]

But cloud number 1 covers island number 2

[serene solstice]

nvm

its 9th

[signal osprey]

Because island 1 is unlocked from the start

[lapis mesa]

oh yeah, forgot about that

[green eagle]

and another t6 drops. honestly was not expecting it to be a chem

especially with how many t5 blossoms i have

[fast grove]

hey can someone explain to me what nuggets do in gaming...i still can't figure it out

[sterile sundial]

The higher the nugget's number, the higher the multiplier to bits

Only the highest number counts, they do not add together

[fast grove]

thank you

[thorn marsh]

am I missing something?

why can't I claim the jewel? o.O

[unkempt quest]

do you already have it

[thorn marsh]

nope

[unkempt quest]

go to character screen and try again

[thorn marsh]

ooooooooh

I have it - the text is just different.... duh

[coral goblet]

what map do you guys cranium cooking in?

[green eagle]

soon i'll get that to an even 20% and i probably won't touch it for a loooong time lol

[green eagle]

i do tremur wurms, but if you aren't that strong yet oranges is a fantastic spot with a lot of mobs and it being flat

[coral goblet]

ok bet

[grizzled elk]

i think flombs is technically the best CC time wise, but I'm usually in wurms for xp and money

[teal lynx]

I will get Snail in the next Day or so (depending on Chems). Should i safe for the new Snail Atom Upgrade in that time?

[grizzled elk]

yeah I'd start saving, the atom will only help in the level 5-9 range, but it gets expensive to level the atom

as you level the atom it will help in higher ranges

[outer plank]

i just got the blobby g artifact, where is he?

[teal lynx]

Alright! Should have it by the time i get Snail! :)

[grizzled elk]

reload map?

[green eagle]

if you're just about to get snail then imo it isn't worth the atoms for the first level of that atom. by all means do what you want, but it will take a minimum of 15 days or so to get snail to level 5, unless you get a lucky low % chance roll to get a double mail.

since it only works starting at level 5 anyways

[verbal bear]

no real reason to touch it

[green eagle]

ye, i just want the flat 20%

i'll only invest in it when i go for t7s, which after i'm done with my last two t6s i won't do t7 for months anyways

[woven sphinx]

Can someone please help with the "1 star game sucks" quest

[green eagle]

what name character are you looking for?

[golden gust]

i just finished pushing to tremors ( 1 st character) with es. I missed 3 w5 recipes sluggmas , moltis, and purgatory. Should i finish farming these recipes before swapping back to pushing/farming with bubo for CC?

[woven sphinx]

P and S

I'm on demon server 20 in world 1

[verbal bear]

if you can't craft the W5 armors and weapons you're in to rush to get the recipes

[golden gust]

hmm. I could "easily" farm the hamsters i assume

and get to weapons but the armors im no where close

cus troll

[vestal yew]

is damage the biggest way to get bigger sampling sizes for mob drops..?

[golden gust]

so suggmas worth maybe doing?

[woven sphinx]

Do you have any characters that start with P or S

[verbal bear]

you could farm the first quest at suggmas on multiple characters that would help sailing and gaming

[golden gust]

yeah no clue if i have done that

ill check and see

[grizzled elk]

best samples for mob drops are during vman speedruns with his multikill talent

[vestal yew]

dang I got to farm vman

[grizzled elk]

otherwise just stack as much afk rate, multikill, and damage as you can

[vestal yew]

1m on every mob is kinda difficult atm...

[green eagle]

i have both

[hardy shale]

does nobisect divinity increase fighting sample for the printer?

[green eagle]

give me a second

[vestal yew]

and damage on vman is horrible lol

for me atm

[green eagle]

where are you in demon 1?

[grizzled elk]

if you're doing early mobs you should be able to get in the few hundred thousands for samples even with lowish damage

[grizzled elk]

bbest use of noobisect is gmush kills

[verbal bear]

and portal pushing

[grizzled elk]

good for zow/chow too but most people use it for gmush is what I meant

[kind geyser]

This might sound dumb, but is it time candy spliceble ?

[verbal bear]

yes it is, use a 1 hour candy and splice it 🙂

1 hour gives the most, and min/max 2 min claims is the most efficient if you've got litreally nothing to do...

[dapper prism]

Splicing is most efficient in low amounts of time due to diminishing returns

[verbal bear]

AND some maps are better, for W1 i believe it's slimes W3 is staches, don't remember the rest tbh

[dapper prism]

just whatever ur highet kph is i believe

[green eagle]

w1 is actually frogs

[kind geyser]

Thanks

[green eagle]

there is a pin in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 that has all the best spots for it

[verbal bear]

oh it is now?

[kind geyser]

I gotta focus on my spice production

[dapper prism]

Not sure how outdated these are, but you can see w1 to w5 amount of mobs etc.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1097026665118449785/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1104314402850742303/image.png

[green eagle]

barely, but yes

[kind geyser]

Damn 237 afk gains

[dapper prism]

Also remember, big maps = need movement speed potions

[green eagle]

at least it was when i last used that guide

[green eagle]

that's not even as high as it can go, some people have over 300%, and i can't be bothered to min max it that much lol

[kind geyser]

I'm like rocking 100~110 with divinity

That's insane

[dapper prism]

400%+ afk gain
https://i.imgur.com/vNsC5MW.png

[kind geyser]

I gotta work on my chaotic amarok but I'm lazy af

[dapper prism]

That was my woodcutting yesterday, that's also with only 1 afk gain keychain

Combat is obv less due to skill passive cards

[kind geyser]

Ur atom Colíder must be of the charts

[green eagle]

see this is the stuff i get hyped about. idk how you even got it that high tbh but i know that sample was as high as the moon. my lowly 256m oak sample cannot compare

[kind geyser]

With that much mats to run on

[dapper prism]

Well, now it is xD

Didnt re-sample since right after doot release until yesterday again

This was my jump:
https://i.imgur.com/ZRMGHRN.png

So happy about it 😄

[kind geyser]

Damn

[dapper prism]

I was expecting maybe 500ish xD

[kind geyser]

That's the comparison ?

That's insane

[dapper prism]

yes, left before, right after

[kind geyser]

The artefact isn't even stacked yet

[hollow wasp]

pogchamp, i been afk for quite a while like idk 6 hours and now i 9 cards till 4star

is 2 more snelbies for 4 star, then i got gigafrog, snelbie and mustache to 4star

[dapper prism]

yup, still need to do vman hopefully today

[tacit tulip]

nice dude, made soem great gains the last couple days there

[hollow wasp]

also good for multikill bonus

[dapper prism]

very nice 😄

[kind geyser]

U mean vman sample or as in make ur maestro a vman ?

[dapper prism]

vman void sample run

well, need to do both, portal run and sample run

[kind geyser]

Ahh fire

I'm using mine for spore caps and gigafrog horns

[dapper prism]

yeh but that hits cap pretty quickly

[kind geyser]

Wdym by cap ?

[dapper prism]

like, producing 1m+ base/h

Like, always being on 1b in storage

[green eagle]

it's funny how your second oak chopper had a lower sample before, but now he has a higher one lol

[kind geyser]

Is that a thing? 1 b on storage ?

[bold quiver]

Guys, cant we do a petition so that lava fix SB hitbox?

[kind geyser]

Is it the max ?

[bold quiver]

like, please. It doesnt make sense that hitbox

[heavy moth]

damnnn nice gainzz

[green eagle]

if you have atom collider turned on the most a stack in your inv will have is 1050m in it

[dapper prism]

That confused the F out of me....
Since my bubo was initially 762m and i tired everything i could and got it to that 802m
After ES had more I was like wtf!? and went back to bubo and nothing i did could increase it... Realized since my ES had +2 max talents due to family talent, that +2 on everything must have been it, unless i just forgot something

[kind geyser]

So if u turn it off u can pass that cap ?

Makes no sense tho

[dapper prism]

Max Stack in storage is 1050m (people just say 1b). If your atom collider is off or you get more than that, any excess is turned to atoms. So i just keep my collider turned off so i am sure to hit 1b first on stuff then anything above = atoms

It's essentially the same as setting ur atom collider to 100m, or 25m. But i just like to have the max cap possible on stacks incase i ever need anything

[kind geyser]

I see

[dapper prism]

Yay, 2nd last eldritch
https://i.imgur.com/knT8TMN.png

Funny because i wasnt fully going for the last artis, mainly just leveling up boats 1 island at a time xD

[dapper prism]

What are your skilling bubbles at?

[heavy moth]

HAHAH really should resample

[flint viper]

does the first god affect lab gains?

[oak hemlock]

@dapper prism There are many different ones, which one are you interested in?

[signal osprey]

The maximum crystallin level has been achieved

[dapper prism]

Just the core 5-6 that one levels in a skill for sampling. E.g. i've been getting them all to ~500ish
https://i.imgur.com/DAlTaBw.png

Lol damnnn, gz!

[modern plaza]

So what happens when sampling is above max stack number? I feel like 2.14b sample will be hit easily very soon

[dapper prism]

Logging into my alts (11h), suddenly seeing my ES has 0 abilities on it's bar, must have forgotten to add them after respeccing 😦

[dapper prism]

You already do with bonuses, it just overflows into atoms afaik

https://i.imgur.com/A98kkI0.png

[oak hemlock]

@dapper prism

[modern plaza]

oh ok so it can actually take samples above 2.14b nice

[dapper prism]

Oh i just mean in terms of printing, itself, i think the 1050m would just be an artificial storage cap. Doubt printing would have a cap itself

[dapper prism]

Tyvm 🙂
Thats one high af WIS bubble 😮

[modern plaza]

i mean there needs to be a datatype number for the value being displayed. wonder if it 64bit

oh maybe even a float and rounding error’s don’t matter bc just worried about couple significant bits

[dapper prism]

True, i doubt it's 32 bit, wouldn't see a reason and not sure why one would go back on that nowdays. If it is then yeh 2.147m But if its 64 then that's a lot higher xD

7 digits vs 20 digits

[calm knoll]

Just one headsup instead of pushing all of them to 500 you should probs push them to 90% bubble gain first, i.e. the W4 skill afk gains stops hits the hard soft cap at level 360 whilst the W1 eff one does the same at level 900 so its better to get them to the 90% prior to pushing them future on

[modern plaza]

seriously lol… imagine have maxed 64bit numbers on samples… 9e18… atom collider done instantly

[dapper prism]

So 90% is whatever the linear value is?

[verbal bear]

linear just keeps scaling, other bubbles have a hard cap with hard diminishing return when you get closer to the hard cap

[dapper prism]

I mean in the top row where it says linear, not in the table cells itself

[calm knoll]

The numbers in the left collumn represent which level you need to achieve the 90% whilst the one on the right shows what you'll end up having. The bubbles which say linear just mean that they always give the same amount. Not sure what you mean by whatever the linear values is; but 90% is the general go to as going from 90 to 95 for a bubble such as the previously mentioned W1 eff one makes it need 1900 levels instead of 900

[dapper prism]

Yeh, so hit these values for example:
https://i.imgur.com/E6tTUKd.png

[calm knoll]

Open it up and save a copy so that you can play around with it

Change the number in target gain to see the levels for the value you are looking for

[dapper prism]

Requested access

[calm knoll]

There ya go, and yeah the things you are highlighting are the levels to get to 90% of those bubbles ^_^

[hollow wasp]

got em

[dapper prism]

Thank you very much! 🙂

Just thought 500 even would be a decent start on all, didnt realize nor expect that in w4 it already caps at stuff around 270-360s.
Appreciate the help!

[tall dirge]

Ok, NOW it's Peak Gaming! anyone got a name that starts with s or p ?

[calm knoll]

"All bubbles are equal but some bubbles are more equal than others" - Grumblo probably
They simply cap off differently because some bubbles are more broken than others

[calm knoll]

I do which world

[tall dirge]

ill hop to you >3

[calm knoll]

Pizza 7 W4 home

[serene solstice]

what rings should I use when I don't have spare opals for afk gain on bb for super chow

[tall dirge]

anyone know the best mob for monster rating ?

[frigid dew]

for me rats were good when i did it

[grizzled elk]

wiki says mashed potato has best drop chance but that map is ass

[tall dirge]

oh tyvm doing on es anyway

[frigid dew]

if you are far along in the game i would just active it up i got it done pretty fast that way

[tall dirge]

ill about just vman hasn't got to w5 boss atm

got to tremur wurms like yesterday on bubo

[frigid dew]

gotcha yeah should go fast and it is sum god stamps ^^

[tall dirge]

yeah i guess the way to measure is rift unlocks

[wanton obsidian]

Do the gem shop chest count as slabs?

[barren otter]

use stopwatches?

[iron citrus]

Stuck on rift 38, only 1/4 can kill that mega monster, avg 5bil to 34bil damage

Any advice

(Aprrt from get stronger lol)

[dapper prism]

You move opals over 😄

[barren otter]

or that

lol

[dapper prism]

ES, 2nd ES, bubo ?

[iron citrus]

2 bubonic 1 es atm

Only es can kill it

[barren otter]

if your tent lvl is high enough on your 2 bubos you should he able to kill it

well also need high aura lvl too

[iron citrus]

Thanks I'll try that

[tall dirge]

bubo injection does big damage also so does the potion abailty (works like MM/Vman coin toss)

[hollow wasp]

i just realized i have farmed this amount of stateus while farming cards. lol

[dapper prism]

Nice, you'll have a lot of fun once u do DK with crystal cards and choco chip 😄

[hollow wasp]

ye maybe 😛

[heavy moth]

how does it count them

[hollow wasp]

lol

[teal lynx]

Locked statues are not counted

Need to unlock to deposit them

[heavy moth]

oh thanks yea

[serene solstice]

using opals on my active char xD

[serene solstice]

you think thats worth?

but okay the dungeon run was so delicious could buy 2 more opals xD

just need to drop another kattle necklace... need scarf so bad

[little harbor]

I need other players whose names start with P or S to say '1 star, game sucks!'

[barren otter]

they are the only ones that have fighting afk gain on them and usually better than everything else

[serene solstice]

hmm

yeah probably xD

but good that I got opals now

but still ty

[green eagle]

i hope you didn't deposit those with that button

[heavy moth]

nah not yea 😛