lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[zinc torrent]

Assuming you have sheepie too bc why wouldn't you (so big p activr)

[signal osprey]

30% from snake and up to 50% from goats

[bold quiver]

my divinity is at lvl 80 on everyone, a few 82

[zinc torrent]

So 3 times the divine scarf? Neato....

[bold quiver]

u get 37% realisticaly

without adding other stuff '.'

[signal osprey]

37% from goat. Its 67% with snake too

And also its not that hard to get more than 37%.

[bold quiver]

hm so 67%

[bold quiver]

true, i think i can get to 100 divinity "easily"

[signal osprey]

I'm assuming you haven't atomed big p at all

[bold quiver]

i havent

[signal osprey]

And yeah getting 90-100 div isnt hard either

[signal osprey]

Well I didn't count how many vman procs I just got but it was at least 10

And my atoms went from 1.7m to 3.9m so thats a fluoride level

[bold quiver]

dear lord how do u guys get so many procs

i get 1-3 max

[signal osprey]

Most days thats what I get too

I consider this the games way of apologizing for my kruk wing rng

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk fair

[zinc torrent]

What are printing? I saw your 1b logs. Is that the level on all your mages?

[limber mason]

Can someone advise me on what's the important upgrade for world 5 in gem shop? I currently have 2 sprinklers, 6 divinity sparkles, 4 chest sluggos. What else should I get.

[signal osprey]

Nah he was the only one to break 1b but the others are still like 900m prints

[zinc torrent]

Will lava ever fix browser client? You simply cant afk with it.

[bold quiver]

what is wrong with it

[zinc torrent]

The moment the window loses focus it stops and starts counting afk time. Bosses also pause entirely

[sick sentinel]

i assume they mean u have to leave the window open otherwise its afk time

[zinc torrent]

Not just open. In focus too. Click on another window: afk

[bold quiver]

rly? cant even use 2 internet pages?

[zinc torrent]

Cant even switch tabs

[bold quiver]

thats bs lol, i wouldnt play the game if it were like that

so cant u have 2 internet explorer windows open?

[sick sentinel]

is steam not an option for you

[bold quiver]

switching tabs make sense. But requiring to have that page clicked its weird

[zinc torrent]

I can. But i have to put the idleon in focus move to the side and scroll off focus.

Its just for work.

[limber mason]

buy a shitty phone for idleon

[runic girder]

I just use my phone as well lol

[bold quiver]

u can use steam and minimize the game '.'

[runic girder]

And then overnight or do stuff on my ipad

[zinc torrent]

Aint no steam on company machine

[bold quiver]

damn

[hasty hinge]

Excuse me guys, just quickly what island is this material on?

[bold quiver]

that log one

[hasty hinge]

I'll have a look now

[bold quiver]

wish lava would recode DK orb so that we can use all its seconds '.'

[hasty hinge]

@bold quiver isolated woods sound familiar?

[bold quiver]

no

[heavy moth]

thats the island to get rock

[hasty hinge]

Thanks guys have a good night

[iron citrus]

wooot just got my 1st red bit in gaming 😄

[opal flint]

Can anyone tell me how the praying mantis bonus works? How does "Scaled skill efficiency" work?

[bold quiver]

oh nice thanks for the info

[near goblet]

the higher your skill level- the less the bonus
esseintaly a catch up mechanic

[bold quiver]

Its an efficiency thats added in some equation that gives u a lot of efficiency. Cant be more specific

[opal flint]

I gotcha, so my maestro will love that shit when I finally get off my ass and get her skills higher than my other chars

[heavy moth]

had no clue of the name just happenened to claim my sailing ahha and im farming those to 300 my boats

[near goblet]

what

[fading cape]

It's beautiful....

[nimble yarrow]

Should I be buying t2 or t3 keychains?

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkk sweet

[signal osprey]

T2 if you want DR chains otherwise everything good is T3

[signal osprey]

It scales based on how much efficiency you currently have. The more you have the less you get and vice versa

[near goblet]

Thought just the level

[signal osprey]

When you level the bonus think of each level as giving you 1 point of scaled efficiency

And that 1 point of scaled efficiency will give you an amount of base efficiency depending on your current efficiency in a given skill

The simple answer is that the bonus is good and you should level it

Because the formula has it set at a minimum of 5 base efficiency per level up to 500 base efficiency total

Which is equivalent to 25 levels in the multitool stamp

[crisp silo]

So more lvls give more eff in terms of scaled eff?

[green eagle]

t6 prickly boy

[signal osprey]

Each level of the blessing will give between 5-100 base efficiency depending on your current efficiency

[green eagle]

4 more t6 to go

[crisp silo]

More lvl = good
Sorry reading hard

Wait so it scales on your current eff, not lvl

Ok

[signal osprey]

Yeah its a decent bonus. At level 100 its gives the same efficiency as 25 levels of multitool minimum potentially more if your efficiency is bad

[green eagle]

in general more level =
except for very few cases, e.g.

[signal osprey]

So the simplest answer is that its always decent and you shouldnt ignore it

[crisp silo]

Wait i keep ignoring blessings

I mean forgetting

[green eagle]

and you can level that up too, it just becomes something that NBLB will level, and it isn't worth it

[crisp silo]

Dang i know wjere my bits gonna go now

[zinc torrent]

I got T6 chemical before any other plant.

[crisp silo]

Lucky

[zinc torrent]

I have no other T6 so fsr

[green eagle]

how did you resist the urge to go forward in time

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-gif-24103478

[zinc torrent]

Snail died.

[crisp silo]

Lmao

[zinc torrent]

I let chemicals grow with rock on till i got back to 7

Got a lot of time progress in the end... no upgrade to nugget

[crisp silo]

All is right in the universe

The nugget did not get better

[zinc torrent]

35k since for ages now

[hardy shale]

if I leave already grown plants will they evolve over time or is the initial evolution the final one besides using cactuses on them?

[zinc torrent]

They evolve over time

[green eagle]

it's nice to see the high end on there, even if it just taunts you

[zinc torrent]

Every cycle there is a chance to evolve applied. If it successful you go up a tier.

[hardy shale]

must be getting unlucky then because it's been like 2 days for 3 plants at 17% each cycle :/

[zinc torrent]

Which tier?

Evo chance squares down each tier

[hardy shale]

it does?

[green eagle]

yep

[zinc torrent]

And t6 and up have an additional multiplier

[echo crag]

t5+

[green eagle]

these are t5-7, and that's just the odds

[zinc torrent]

Uh jeah that. Was talking chance to BECOME t6 but t5+is technically correct

The best kind of correct

Math wong

[fervent brook]

Making Vmann not have to push portals anymore is low key one of the best QOL changes.

[zinc torrent]

Its just a symptome of bad coding.

But a welcome one

[foggy briar]

My Divinity speed is at 85/hr, so 502 hours to get goat

[simple void]

So we shouldn’t claim plant and let it stay to evolve?

[foggy briar]

I only have 4 chars on div though, should I increse it?

[zinc torrent]

If you want higher evos? They give you a multiplier if you discover them. But on average claiming asap should give the most bits. Mostly because evos start to get very very slow for higher tiers.

[foggy briar]

got it down to 316 hours, does polytheism stack?

[echo crag]

ES passive talent ?

[foggy briar]

yes

[echo crag]

nope

none of those passive talent stack

[astral knoll]

why is boss card drop just 3? 😢

[hollow wasp]

soon

[zinc torrent]

Oh nice. Got my first kattle obol.

Worth it over sparkle dice?

For family

Probably right? 5% all afk is very good

[signal osprey]

Roll it to 6% and yeah its good

And if you can be bothered to swap obols regularly you can use dice and kruks

When you claim afk gains it will use whatever afk% you have in that moment so you can run dice obols while active farming and then just swap to kruk before you claim afk gains

[echo crag]

kruk for sampling too obviously

[young pulsar]

Are mana potions even necessary after W2?

[crisp silo]

Speed pots>>>

[signal osprey]

I wasn't aware that people ever used mana pots

[echo crag]

ppl rush so much that the mana pool isnt big enough for elite classes

[ebon bridge]

Back in the day, Mana pots were necessary

[zinc torrent]

Well its number 1 so far. Ill just keep farming him to see when ill hit more. Cape is the goal (and neck)

[young pulsar]

Yeah, I don't think I haven't used them since W1, which was in the beginning of my journey. So why do they still drop? I was curious if I had missed something haha

[ebon bridge]

You couldnt get enough MP to fully upkeep an active character without them

[tacit tulip]

Hunter would absolutely bleed MP with uwu rawr active

[ebon bridge]

What is this in reference to?

[zinc torrent]

Should get 5 obols in the time i get 1 cape. On average.

[signal osprey]

I wish I got a cape in the time it took me to get 5 obols

I've trashed a few dozen obols and I have no capes

[zinc torrent]

Another proof that drop rates are a lie and luck does not exist

[crisp silo]

I cant even get 1 obol

[tacit tulip]

When vman does a speedrun his portals are reset and lost

To stop this being a major problem at the end of the run it gets given your portal progress of all other characters

So, you don't map push as vman anymore, as he inherits it

Will be very useful w6

[crisp silo]

Gotta sacrifice your first born for that cape

[signal osprey]

This is my current number of nightmare runs and the expected % chance that I would have gotten the cape by now at my current DR

[zinc torrent]

That's a lot of keys. How long do you need for a nightmare kill? One shot?

How much dr?

[signal osprey]

Not quite a one shot but close. It takes a couple of hits

[tacit tulip]

Looks a lot like my glove recipe range haha

[true obsidian]

does this mean all type of carry or just amterial?

[signal osprey]

And that math was done assuming 16x DR but I actually started at like 16.07x or something and have gotten a few upgrades to it over the past couple weeks

[zinc torrent]

What tool is that?

[near goblet]

all pretty sure

[signal osprey]

Didn't want to account for that so I jsut said 16x

So my actual % chance should be higher

[zinc torrent]

Oh... fun... i have glorious 9x...

[signal osprey]

Currently at 16.47x

[zinc torrent]

9.7

Vman?

[signal osprey]

Surely I get it by 400 runs

Nah thats DK. My vman doesnt kill fast enough for my patience

[tacit tulip]

You're not closer to having it than when you started

[signal osprey]

I know

But I have to stay sane somehow

[tacit tulip]

Sanity is optional

[signal osprey]

I've done nothing but DK at wurms for like 2 weeks now

Pulling 2k keys a day

Pissing them away for nothing

[zinc torrent]

But we were told 200 is enough for pity

[signal osprey]

Sanity is dwindling and I need to maintain it as best I can

[crisp silo]

How does one get even higher dr, im caping out at like 10.5
I got red brightside, rest diamond
Ful obols
Cape

[tacit tulip]

maybe nows the time to swoop in and take your cape

[tacit tulip]

Luk is surprisingly strong in the Dr calculation, pump those numbers

[crisp silo]

When does it cap, 10k?

[tacit tulip]

I went up .15 DR when I unlocked the luk stamp from w5 lol

[crisp silo]

Cause i think im about 2.5k rn

I still need those goofy ahh sailing mushrooms for that quest

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1094256172296577125

[crisp silo]

Dang no new one

[signal osprey]

Not sure if it has the new stuff from this patch but aside from that it should be pretty well up to date

[crisp silo]

Hmmmm

[zinc torrent]

What tier are relic Keychain?

[ebon bridge]

Whose portals does it inherit? Because I have wurms on 2 characters and my vman doesnt have it unlocked

[signal osprey]

Relic is T2

[crisp silo]

uhhh why does IT display my dr different from my ingame dr

like my ingame is lower by 0.09dr

[tacit tulip]

IT and IE aren't perfect tools, there'll be some difference

[crisp silo]

ok

[green eagle]

man the new armor upgrade stones look so good but feel so awful to use. feels like using armor stone c's again

[signal osprey]

I've just been using W5 on all my new gear

Once I get everything done I might try to roll better stuff

[green eagle]

i need it spongebob meme

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[soft grail]

I just use them on skilling boots and stingers for now.

[green eagle]

need to craft a few new perfect stingers and try it out

get that +1-3 and slot then go to town

[zinc zenith]

Has anyone finished the pet arena? Is it realistically possible?

[crisp silo]

finished?

[zinc zenith]

Ye has anyone got to round 200?

[crisp silo]

p much most ppl here

[signal osprey]

Some people have gotten close to 400

[zinc zenith]

Huh, those numbers seem insane.

[strong crag]

Endgame

[zinc zenith]

[signal osprey]

You dont really even need to be that endgame though honestly

Same team that gets 200 can get 400

Or even 1000

[strong crag]

True, more shocked they didn't white screen tbh

[signal osprey]

Its all about having the right abilities. More pet power just makes it faster

[upbeat trout]

im farming pop obols with ES, who do i farm drop obols with ? i saw ppl reco DK, but what map and why

[crisp silo]

W2 crystals drop dice obols, those you want to take to sparkle. So for crystal drops, we would use DK cause ES only affects the main mob on that map. Map, ppl like pots, cause there is glass shard

[feral whale]

interesting bug))

[green eagle]

i wish he never capped the visual display of your ms

it was so fun zoomin'

[green eagle]

better get craftin structin

[zinc torrent]

Building

[green eagle]

structin

[swift pecan]

Anyone got the fishing samples pic with the best bait/spot?

[signal osprey]

!fishchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by TrazCS#7476

[swift pecan]

Thanks

[opaque sun]

It doesnt take into account the w5 lines and lures tho

[strong crag]

Incase you need it - Thank you Allfetup for this ❤️

[green eagle]

we just poppin t6s off over here today

[zinc plume]

I'm kind of lost I just hit world 5 but my damage is too low even on my pushing character, what should I be doing?

[thin rose]

Go back to w4

Well if you just got to w5 you shouldn't be worrying about damage at all

You should be working on your skills

Divinity, gaming and sailing

I'd advise sticking maybe 6 of your characters if not more into divinity until you atleast get bear

Then work towards goat

[modern plaza]

let me know when u get t8 😄

[thin rose]

Lmk when you get t20

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-year-is-it-jumanji-forgotten-gif-15305928

[tacit tulip]

@signal osprey thanks for the cape babe

[signal osprey]

[green eagle]

now do it 9 more times 😄

[tacit tulip]

christ no wonder it's so sought after

[rustic garnet]

Does putting people on the liquid caulron give the same as the brew cauldron for alch exp?

[modern plaza]

[cerulean hemlock]

RIP feet

[cerulean hemlock]

Nmare drop right?

[simple void]

is it better to stack gaming plants to let them evolve over time?

[cerulean hemlock]

Depends on what you're aiming for

[simple void]

im lkv75

[tacit tulip]

Quest, but needs the cape from nm

[cerulean hemlock]

Evolve

[cerulean hemlock]

Wow, I'm going to........... get that as fast as I can

P2w bonus

(I'm f2p)

[tacit tulip]

The hardest part is probably gonna be level 450 on everyone

Guess I need to go ham on grind time

[wheat plaza]

3 days straight of Suggmas on dk with 12x drop rate and no recipe

[zinc plume]

I still have dementia helmet and boots and efaunt armor and legs on everybody because void feels too far away to reach 😦

What does divinity give me?

[tacit tulip]

It takes an average of 1k royal urns to get one recipe

[wheat plaza]

Alright makes sense, a little over halfway there then lol

[tacit tulip]

-laughs in 4.5k royal urns-

[tacit tulip]

!guide explains this better than I ever can

Basically account changing buffs, incredibly strong

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[manic moat]

how does the lava skulls work in the rift again? do I only hit the skulls or avoid the skulls until I see a lava one?

[tacit tulip]

Kill a skull for 50% chance it upgrades on another mob

Quickest way is to manually target high skulls (I do plat and up) to hope they bounce

[cerulean hemlock]

With Doot or without? 😦

[tacit tulip]

Without

With doot it's absurdly broken

[cerulean hemlock]

I feel like ES's double link is trashy now

[tacit tulip]

Without it's still incredibly strong

If you have doot it's worthless yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lf3ls4HjhoP8vxy08b0NiFHfvkKItmnFmZ1DN5y008Y/edit
TAKE THIS, It's a guide I made myself and might have stuff on what to do

[white badger]

4 ranks of cards? You mean 5 right with ruby?

[cerulean hemlock]

It's in progress since...... Pets

[green eagle]

es overnight one time 🤪 (i know i'm lucky)

[green eagle]

BEGONE FOUL WORLD 3ISH ARMOR WEARER /s

[green eagle]

petition for my boy ES to get new talents. the doot update made even more of his talents worthless (let's not talk about BB and his useless talents)

[opaque comet]

just reached w5, which gem upgrades should i focus?

divinity sparkie is a must?

[mystic mountain]

golden sprinkler could be argued

[stoic tiger]

Yeah I'd say golden sprinkler

[mystic mountain]

yeah, i'd do that because you'll have the sprinkler before actually unlocking it

[green eagle]

i guess at some point i'll take them off, but he was a forgotten character at one point. he used to have the blue gloves too, but took them off for slab and never made new ones then i changed his class lol

[mystic mountain]

going to do some chip gambas, praying i hit choco chip

[tall notch]

Gl

I got my choccy after 7 gambas so im happy

[mystic mountain]

7 attempts?

[tall notch]

Yes

[mystic mountain]

i've been trying for weeks now

[tall notch]

Ah damn, hope you get it soon

[mystic mountain]

TKIEASDF

IT'S REAL

[tall notch]

Got it?

[mystic mountain]

yeah

[tall notch]

Damn gz man

[summer belfry]

hi! i unlocked voidwalker and i wonder why i have only one point to spend 😮

[mystic mountain]

blessed me thank you

[tall notch]

Have fun, crystals go brrr

[tacit tulip]

You use the top left talent to earn more 🙂

[raven bear]

How do you link the 2nd God on an ES?

[tall notch]

Did you spend points in the chess skill in maestro tab

[summer belfry]

nope

[raw mica]

anybody know about at what stage would you be able to start rift?

[tall notch]

Spend points in the skill, each skill pt is a different god

Pope spend some points on the skill, you should get some pts for the voidwalker

And have fun speedrunning

[mystic mountain]

i'd go to the wiki and look at the monster hp values and see what you can manage

[lavish cloak]

awwww yisss snail copium

[tall notch]

You need several decently built classes to do rift iirc

[raw mica]

oh the monster hp is not a problem i just have no idea how i can possibly do rift 1, how i should be able to kill 500 of those monsters when nothing that gives me extra kills work on it

[tall notch]

More damage i suppose

[forest berry]

bubo

[raw mica]

are rifts family based?

like the progress of the rifts

[forest berry]

yes

[mystic mountain]

classes that have respawn mechanics are the main way to do the first one, i think DK is probably the best? unless your ES has good damage with portal

[raw mica]

you have opened my eyes

[forest berry]

beating rift one on your bubo beats it for all 10 of your characters.

some rifts even require multiple characters

[raw mica]

i tried doing divine knight first but i couldn'#t do it but i was close so maybe if i try again or try it with my bubo i should be able to do it

[forest berry]

like "kill this big guy on 4 characters"

[mystic mountain]

did you have speed potions on?

[raw mica]

from what i saw in the hp it didn't seem like the kill the guy who self heals on 4 characters was gonan be a problem

[raw mica]

i didn't even think about that

ty

[forest berry]

it will be when they have over 1T health

[tall notch]

My bubo needs some serious love like damn

[raw mica]

well the early rifts don't seem that bad

[tall notch]

Maybe when i get lvl 200 books for the tentaceye ill get him going

[forest berry]

no they arent, i think i got to rift 20 before starting to struggle

[misty willow]

guys i can go to some parts of the map that i have unlocked with one of my characters but i haven't unlocks with the character that i am playing with is this a glitch

[mystic mountain]

yeah, i had the same problem, but after using the speed pots, it was pretty easy

[hollow wasp]

almost

[tall notch]

What class are you playing on that gets in new portals

[raw mica]

ill try the speed pots strat before trying with my bubo since my bubo isn't as good as my divine knight ty for the advice

[forest berry]

are you reffering to things like dungeons?

[misty willow]

No

The worlds map

[tall notch]

Are you playing on vman?

[misty willow]

Yes

[tall notch]

He copies portal access after each speedrun

[misty willow]

But i haven't reached world 5

On him

[tacit tulip]

You don't need to unlock each world on each character

[tall notch]

You only need to reach w5 on one guy to gain access on all

[tacit tulip]

Once you unlock w5, all characters can access it

[misty willow]

Oh thanks i thought it was a glitch

[tall notch]

Vman copies portal access from your furthest pushed character after finishing a speedrun, so you can 'skip' all of w5 on vman if say your dk pushed to the last map

[green eagle]

since getting better samples a couple weeks ago i'm close to getting larry to 501 finally

[green eagle]

ye and can't wait for that in w6. MK people go brrrrr and then vman just casually shows up in the end

[signal osprey]

Imagine not pushing new worlds on launch day with active vman

🗿

[cerulean hemlock]

👀 vman isn't that old yet

[mystic mountain]

best w2 bubo map?

[signal osprey]

Probably sand castles but what do you want to do in W2 with bubo

[mystic mountain]

mess around with crystals while my dk is sitting in lab xP

ty

ahh this is a gamechanger, now it's time to juice out my dk

[signal osprey]

Well if you switch to DK you would wanna go to sand pots instead of sand castles

[mystic mountain]

to farm glass shards?

[signal osprey]

That and its just a better map for DK

He gets more statues per hour there then he does on castles

[twin token]

Are there any late or end game players that can tell me how many gems per key they get from bosses with maestro?

Assuming ur fighting normal bosses

[dreamy spruce]

1 key ~ 1.2 gems

[twin token]

Hm ok

I saw griffy get 600 keys from 2 Mutated mush...

[mystic mountain]

IIRC he did that with DK orb and valentine event item

[twin token]

Yeah

Wait what event item?

[mystic mountain]

i wasn't around for the event, but it was an item that spawns mobs

so some people kept those and used them with DK orb to juice out gains

[twin token]

Oh alr

Well I'd guess he still gets a lot

[mystic mountain]

yeah, but that account is basically his job lol

[twin token]

Yeah

But still I get 20 keys from colo Mush so that's like 60 gems a day from bosses if u get 1.2 gems per key

But you'd probs be getting a lot more keys from Mush if ur getting 1.2x gems per key

[undone steeple]

should I put everyone printing resources for atoms on the print god?
right now its either that or elephant god (for gaming/sailing)

[green eagle]

[barren anvil]

Does XP multiplier not work on Mantra praying?

[placid mural]

No

[placid mural]

Divinity exp is its own category

[barren anvil]

If i pray with TranQi i get 22xp/h but when i Mantra on all my chars i get 8xp/h. That would mean it affects TranQi but not Mantra does it not?

[cerulean hemlock]

Maybe snadies

[placid mural]

Ooooooh you are talking about divinity xp multiplier, yes it works just doesn't display it

[cerulean hemlock]

Which is a tad sad

[barren anvil]

That means Mantra is still better than TranQi when i dont need to do other stuff right?

[placid mural]

If you don't mind putting 8 of your characters at the altar

Then yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

Unless goat?

[barren anvil]

Well i kinda got Doot

[placid mural]

Kinda or did? Lol

[barren anvil]

I do have him.

[placid mural]

Then they would need to be in lab still

[barren anvil]

Yes thats where they are

[signal osprey]

Dix exp multi only applies to the exp they earn themselves while on mantra

The shared exp is still just 1

[placid mural]

Since goat doesn't work unless they are actually in the lab, not just connected via bear god

[placid mural]

Ahh thank you for that, didn't know

[barren anvil]

Oh that changes everything.

[signal osprey]

Also the shared exp can't proc double exp chance when claiming afk gains

So once you have everyone at 25 div using vitalic is better

[barren anvil]

Oh wow yea you are right.

Thanks alot! Both of you

[placid mural]

Unless you want them multitasking in which case use tranq

[barren anvil]

Yea. But for now i just want them to level lab and Divinity,

[placid mural]

Then contract has the right of it

[sharp wind]

the frog is "high"

[tacit tulip]

Its where the old portal to beans used to be, lava forgot to remove it when he reshaped the map

so the frogs spawn there too 😄

[hollow wasp]

pogchamp, time to go to the mustaches

[echo crag]

already got snelbie one done ?

[frozen prairie]

what are your guys' trapping setups?

[hollow wasp]

no. but mustache is faster, isnt it

[echo crag]

everything is relative with ES lol

[tacit tulip]

I have a Vman set EXP trap on everyone (to get trap levels up) and a healthy spread of traps across the rest of critters for general progression

[hollow wasp]

i also got a few pops

[tacit tulip]

Drop rate helps with card rate too, so you'll benefit from having those. Don't forget to reroll them to get +1 drop rate

[hollow wasp]

i have to reroll as often as its +3% droprate instad of +2%?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

when you upgrade obols, they inherit the rerolls of the left one

so when you upgrade them to silver they keep the +1% DR

You'll do the same with dice before upgrading them, too

[hollow wasp]

so i wanna reroll all bronzes to +3%

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[hollow wasp]

thanks

[tacit tulip]

I probably should have booked this sooner rather than later

[hollow wasp]

snelbies to 4star first or mustache?

[tacit tulip]

snelbies will be quicker

[hollow wasp]

aight, thanks

[dapper prism]

Gratz! 😄

[tacit tulip]

The amount of cards and their rarity makes it harder each world you go forwards

[hollow wasp]

done rerolling my obols x)

[hollow wasp]

thanks man!

4.43x dr on my ES rn

[tacit tulip]

Nice! when you upgrade those to silver they'll go from 3% to 4% now

[hollow wasp]

nice thanks. but when i combine 2 bronze ones 1 can get destroyed huh

[dapper prism]

Yup

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, but only the right one

[hollow wasp]

ye i upgraded all to 3%

1 in 2h, should be quite fast with cards i think

[tacit tulip]

If you have a drop rate lab chip it might be worth equipping it to get you to 5DR unti lyou have more

[hollow wasp]

lets see ^^

[latent chasm]

bruh ive been stuck on x9842 since gaming came out :/

[dapper prism]

Active will be faster

[hollow wasp]

i think i have it, not sure

[hollow wasp]

ye i do it active

already got 1 card

i farmed my 160 gigafrog cards in around...

5hours i think

[tacit tulip]

yeah sounds about right, ES is great for that

[hollow wasp]

i might be able to 4star before bed the snelbies

[bold quiver]

managed to far 540 hampter while i 1B that map, kinda low D:

[green eagle]

kitsune making my sprouts ZOOM

[latent chasm]

any advice on gaming other than getting lucky with gold nuggets

i aint even got chem plants yet and been at it since gamin dropped lol

[dapper prism]

Kitty on, do attempts at low genes, don't save them up long

[latent chasm]

i thought using the cat was bad unless active

[dapper prism]

Depends, it's also bad to not have chem..

[latent chasm]

haha

im gaming dude gamin

[green eagle]

cat is great to have on 100% of the time, unless you plan on leaving for like a few days, but even then you can never go wrong with the chance of getting further plant evos for bit gain

[latent chasm]

okie dokie

ill leave it on till i get chem lol

[dapper prism]

small tip, lay our your imports better:
https://i.imgur.com/hPanXmV.png

That way plants spawn closer together, making it easier for cacti to hit more things

(snail is irrelevant) as plants still spawn on it

[unkempt quest]

does that actually work

because i've tried that and never changed anything

[green eagle]

i have 3 t6s left before i have them all, and then i might turn kitsune off for increased bit gain, but i might go for t7 next who knows? i'm crazy 🤪

[dapper prism]

yes.. so no clue why you give it an X... There was a patch like 2 months ago or so that plants shouldnt spawn on imports anymore

[green eagle]

plants still spawn on my shell sometimes

[latent chasm]

@green eagle crazy? i was crazy once. they locked me in a room. a rubber room. a rubber room with rats.

[green eagle]

so this is my layout

[bold quiver]

yeah its solid. The positions might be a little off and u might get some random plants inside there nothing to worry about

[dapper prism]

Rarely you'd have something spawn on something or in it, but most times it will look like this (this was after log)
https://i.imgur.com/kNp1TaI.png

[fading cape]

just realized how long I've been neglecting rift. hopefully I'll have 46 in the next 48 hours

[latent chasm]

what % should i do research at? 1?

[dapper prism]

Way lower

[latent chasm]

.2? xD

[dapper prism]

30-50 genes, maybe 100 genes max

[latent chasm]

so 1 or something

[dapper prism]

There's big diminishing returns

[latent chasm]

cuz 6 genes is .2

for me at least

[dapper prism]

Also depends on what plant muta

[latent chasm]

oh chem

[fading cape]

on chem like every time you collect a board.

Because my 0.6 is at 200 plants. But 0.8 is 600 plants

[dapper prism]

You ever check how many genes 1% is?

[latent chasm]

nah i kinda just roll every few days at like 4%

[bold quiver]

i saved to 100 everytime on chemical

[latent chasm]

im off and on

[dapper prism]

I did most around 0.3. 0.4% max

The Diminsihing returns just get way to rough

[latent chasm]

im still working on sailing too finally got mask

everything before is eldritch

[bold quiver]

is this the best chip´setup for KPH or there something better?

[latent chasm]

you missing a chip

[bold quiver]

7 slots

[true obsidian]

how i can move the squirrel?

[sick sentinel]

i think thats pretty much what i settled on

[true obsidian]

i can't click-hold and drag it

[dapper prism]

cant, its got a mind of its own

[sick sentinel]

cant move the squirrel, its a little fuck

[green eagle]

you leave that little guy alone!

[bold quiver]

gotcha just confirming in case i was missing something

[sick sentinel]

lol dont base it off of me 😅

i am not optimal

[fallen torrent]

MAGMA GAUNTLET

FINALLY WITH 8H AFK

[bold quiver]

best feeling when u are trying to get evolutions and u misslclick it cuz stupid squirrel

[sick sentinel]

hate that guy

[lament geyser]

What's the new atom?

[sick sentinel]

snail failsafe

[bold quiver]

i dont understand why squirrel positions isnt fixed o.o

[sick sentinel]

to piss us off

[bold quiver]

its only there to annoy u

[true obsidian]

how many day i need to get snail lv 25? just in perfect world where i always success without encourge?...

i started late so feel so slow :<

[bold quiver]

1 per day x 3 x 25

[unkempt quest]

upgrade the import for chance of extra mail per day

[true obsidian]

wait, what happen if i fail now? when i have the atom that set my lowest lv is 5?

but i'm just lv3

[bold quiver]

0

[unkempt quest]

go to 0

[true obsidian]

:<

sad

[unkempt quest]

gotta get lvl 5

[dapper prism]

You get more than 1 mail a day with snail upgrade though

[true obsidian]

yeah...it gonna took long long time

[bold quiver]

indeed. But who knows how unlucky someone can be

[true obsidian]

still miss chemical

[bold quiver]

decent bits nice

[unkempt quest]

lvl 142 still no chem either

chances are stupid low

[mystic mountain]

are you at red bits?

[true obsidian]

i wish, i have very low nugget :<

[mystic mountain]

mine is only 16k

[true obsidian]

"only 16k"...said to guy with 1.1k

i have to save bit for almost 3 week just for unlock snail

[mystic mountain]

ah, i just unlocked the pong mini game today

[latent chasm]

can someone join my party so i can do a w1 achievement lol

[true obsidian]

"SKILL ISSUE"

[latent chasm]

lol

[dapper prism]

Mine looks the same

Except the woodcutting one for dashing speed is easy

[sick sentinel]

what server and world are you in

[latent chasm]

pizza 7 w1

[true obsidian]

this look good for 1B farm but no, it'll never happen

[latent chasm]

@sick sentinel ty

[sick sentinel]

np, do i need to be there?

i odnt remember

[latent chasm]

nah just in pary

[sick sentinel]

kk

[latent chasm]

party*

the Heyo achievement just looks tedious

[sick sentinel]

its easiest to do during happy hour

[latent chasm]

same with the wassup yo! ?

[sick sentinel]

yep

can knock em both out

[bold quiver]

is this additive?

cuz it seems like it is '.'

[signal osprey]

It is

[sick sentinel]

pretty sure its flat

[bold quiver]

😳

[unkempt quest]

additive and not per tier

shit bonus

[bold quiver]

huge

[signal osprey]

Its a horrible bonus but the super bit bonus is good

[bold quiver]

what superbit bonus

[sick sentinel]

the achieve bit multi

[bold quiver]

oh that

but its not an exponential growth also right? so diminishing returns the moreu get achiev

[graceful rivet]

how does gold nugget luck work

[signal osprey]

Its exponential

[sick sentinel]

nah it goes up quick

[graceful rivet]

is it multipllciatvie ?

[bold quiver]

thats nice, didnt know

[dapper prism]

I'm blind, can u screenshot it?

[unkempt quest]

its the first superbit

first upgrade

[dapper prism]

oh i thought they meant an actual achievement xD

[sharp igloo]

How do you get the kattlekruk trophy?

[signal osprey]

Luck just increases the range of nugget you can get it doesnt actually make your average nugget size get much bigger

[unkempt quest]

quest

[sick sentinel]

npc quest outside of boss room

[graceful rivet]

it does then wdym

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks

[atomic atlas]

why I CAN CLAIM

[dapper prism]

u already* own it?

[latent chasm]

loool

[signal osprey]

Very very slight increase to the average but its so small that for 99% of players it doesnt matter

[graceful rivet]

when u mean range

[signal osprey]

Because nuggets are heavily weighted towards the bottom percentile of possible rolls

[floral torrent]

could u get a 100k nugget at lv 0 luck?

[graceful rivet]

do u mean like from 0 to 100 its 0 200 at 100% ?

[atomic atlas]

fck yeah

I have it

[graceful rivet]

if so you can use summation formula n(n+1)/n to compute average irc

[atomic atlas]

I just have 3 jewel and they give me one that I have seriously this game suck

[graceful rivet]

and any multiplier would do an average increase

[unkempt quest]

12k nugget btw

[graceful rivet]

if i understood the formula correctly

[signal osprey]

Your range is this % times 1 for the bottom value and times I think 1580 for the top value

[dapper prism]

Nugget size will be more like
1 to 2k then 100 to 100k then 200 to 300k type of stuff. Where 99% of your rolls will be your lowest 0.5% of soem crap. basically meaning you'd get something under 1k 99% of the time

[bold quiver]

my talent still broken, no matter how much i level my stuff it doesnt go up D:

[signal osprey]

Or something around 1580. I might be off by a little bit

[signal osprey]

What are your skill levels?

[tall horizon]

It's only vman skill levels

[bold quiver]

896 + 752

[signal osprey]

Its just vman

[bold quiver]

wait........... rly?

[signal osprey]

Vman trapping plus worship

Then subtract 100

And multiply that by whatever your talent gives

[bold quiver]

oh man i thought it counted for everyone on some crazy math

[signal osprey]

It still scales pretty well

[latent chasm]

man was looking for those big gains

[signal osprey]

Mine is like 730% or something

[bold quiver]

damn gonna work on that

[signal osprey]

And its a separate multiplier so its really big

[sharp igloo]

Is the damage boost from construction mastery additive? I unlocked it and it says its giving me +50% damage, but my damage barely went up at all

[bold quiver]

i need more critters, 1B those vials is very hard. Im at rats now

[tall horizon]

Get that vman on natures

[bold quiver]

yah, i swapped everyone to nature yesterday lol

ill just have to pick one day to level worship, with cc

[pulsar cliff]

Why natures? I just started paying attention to my trapping lol

[bold quiver]

highes exp per hour

[pulsar cliff]

Ooooh, I made the same mistake you did for the scaling thing. So it's only VMan's trapping / worship that gets the massive bonus?

[mystic mountain]

vman’s levels only count towards the bonus, but that bonus is family wide

[pulsar cliff]

fml.

Okay thank you I'm just dense.

[mystic mountain]

nah we all have our moments

[vapid wraith]

I just got all my skilling cards to passive. Anyone have a generic card setup I can put on all my characters for their printing swap?

[sick sentinel]

this, swap out base stats for choco box if you need and change stats based on skill

[vapid wraith]

stat, afk gains, generic skill eff, got it thx

[mystic mountain]

oh is the 2nd tier troll card generic skill efficiency?

[orchid iris]

whats a good lvl for "Bossing Vain" when speedrunning? I got 80 on the "Voidd Trial" and Maxxed Void radius

[mystic mountain]

still don’t have that card yet

[sick sentinel]

its a nutty card

get it as soon as you can

[sly plank]

now that my trapping cards are passive are there any other cards I should use when claiming traps? food boost for nuts?

[mystic mountain]

after my dice obols

[sick sentinel]

as high as you can get it

[orchid iris]

just wasnt sure if I should prioritize it over longer time in speedrun, keep getting stuck at wodes

[signal osprey]

Longer time is more important. Especially if you arent killing many bosses as you need to kill them to even get the respawn %

I prioritized maxing the first 3 talents from left to right

[sick sentinel]

maybe food boost and card drop/drop rate

[orchid iris]

So does basic, mid, and elite Amarok count individually?

[sly plank]

oh yes card drop, thank you

[sick sentinel]

unique boss kills count, so do the highest tier u can

[signal osprey]

No only one boss kill counts and the higher bosses give more portals so just running nightmare bosses is all you need

[mystic mountain]

if you do card drop, just make sure you click into the gem shop and exit if you’re swapping over from another setup without changing the map

otherwise it won’t give you the drop chance

[latent chasm]

does the progress just mean to kill the last one aka thermister?

[sick sentinel]

that means u have done 5 bloque

gotta do mamooth now

[latent chasm]

oh

lol

[sick sentinel]

its a bit of a pain

hopefully you remember to try at your weekly reset

i forgot sometimes

[latent chasm]

idk with the bubble pet it shouldnt be too bad

im still at like 1 in 942

[dapper prism]

and use DK

[latent chasm]

and ive killed maybe like 6 giants

[sick sentinel]

why dk?

[dapper prism]

Orb stack works on their loot, no?

[latent chasm]

what if i dont want loot

[sick sentinel]

dunno, didnt think so

speed would be bubo

[latent chasm]

[dapper prism]

I've only tested it once and it seemed like it did, but guess it could have been rng then 🤷

[latent chasm]

yeah im pretty sure orb does work

[sick sentinel]

ye i dunno never thought to test

[tacit tulip]

It works but there's some sort of cap - used to give waaaaay more when DK first came out

[dapper prism]

Ever since i did it once on a reset, i try to active on DK after reset for the easy giants

free candy is free candy xD

[tacit tulip]

yeah ,best way to do it really

even easier with sheepie to make the bubble free, too

[dapper prism]

afk for a bit, time to do my samples for real

Never done it with magma

Well i'll be darned....
https://i.imgur.com/6WcDxDU.png

[pulsar cliff]

Daaaaaang

[dapper prism]

time to see if i can min max it a bit more xD

[sacred verge]

whats your guys carry cap for mats?

for one stack

[dapper prism]

700k to 1m depending if i have afk prayer on

[sacred verge]

you got all the gem shop stuff i assume?

[fading cape]

382k on my ES

without prayer

[signal osprey]

My DK is currently at 4.5m mob mats per stack

[dapper prism]

Any guide on snapshotting for sampling?

[sacred verge]

how do you get that? i made all the bags but still only at 680k

[tacit tulip]

Mostly just mp% cards and allstat gear

[dapper prism]

my sample suddenly went from 762m to 760m after changing map and i didnt change anything else :/

[sick sentinel]

wear stat gear/cardset and look at eff, open alch quick ref, swap gear/cards, look at eff again

its not a dramatic change

[tacit tulip]

primarily for these for cappy cap

[sacred verge]

smart one

didnt think of that

should 100% work on my jar stamp aswell

[barren otter]

dont snapshot for every type of log it drains your soul :)

[dapper prism]

Just Oak

[signal osprey]

These help too

[barren otter]

i did bleach too

but you shouldnt need to to hit hourly clicks

[sacred verge]

also for ES mat farm do i go DR over MK per tier cards?

[barren otter]

yes

[dapper prism]

Ty Snapshot made it go from 762m to 767m

[sick sentinel]

its not too huge but its somethin

[barren otter]

woo 0.65% inc!

[dapper prism]

I desperately need a 2nd AFK gain keychain:
https://i.imgur.com/BMeVKGS.png

The skill speed is useless 😦

[barren otter]

is the 1 that you have at least good

my best and only one is 4%

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/A5sqhdv.png

[signal osprey]

I'll get a good afk chain one day

[dapper prism]

using a 4% wis keychain instead of the skill speed (because of cap) got me to 769m 😮

[signal osprey]

I have more 2/2 chains than I know what to do with

[dapper prism]

4% wis would still be better than 2.5% all stat, right? other stats wouldnt benefit for woodcutting?

[bold quiver]

doing w2 dungeon is so annoying, but i need to drop boss wings D:

[signal osprey]

What are boss wings

I dont know anything about those

There definitely isnt a pair of wings on the new boss

[bold quiver]

no idea what they do, but slab

urban legend

[signal osprey]

This damn boss is holding me hostage. I just want to go back to my roots and be a humble bean farmer

But my poor DK is forced to slave away in the wurm caves

[dapper prism]

Ohhhh i forgot to get trophy

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk

[barren otter]

yea i want off of the sock train

have had all 10 there since patch

[signal osprey]

I gave up on having most people afk it after the first 200 or so nightmare runs

Its not worth it. I have other things I need done

But my poor DK has still been farming his heart out

Getting close to the 400 kill mark soon

[sly plank]

I have all bubbles in 3 cauldrons, am I safe to put 4 characters in the 4th cauldron, 3 characters in water, and remaining 3 in sigils?

[latent chasm]

yes

[sly plank]

is there no way to increase sigil rate from the base 1/hr?

[signal osprey]

Personally I dont think characters in water is worth it over sigils but yeah you can do that if you want

[latent chasm]

gems in gem shop

[signal osprey]

After bubbles I just went all on sigils

[latent chasm]

and a sigil in the sigils

[echo crag]

artefact boosting sigils too

[tacit tulip]

Gemshop
Sigil buff in sigils
Artifact that buffs sifils I(which buffs sigil sigil)
There's an achievement that gives 20% speed too

[sly plank]

awesome, thank you all

I'll put 4 on sigils then

[echo crag]

and ultimatly all of those buff are still not enough lol

[latent chasm]

still takes forever lol

[dapper prism]

Final Sample upgrade 🙂
https://i.imgur.com/kfOG4zp.png

[latent chasm]

nerd

[bold quiver]

damn thats almost higher than mine huge

[latent chasm]

🤓

[tacit tulip]

the end is never the end is never the end is never the end

[dapper prism]

Ohhhh I have daily Atoms!!!

[signal osprey]

Yall need to slow down with these resamples. You're making me anxious

[latent chasm]

@tacit tulip crazy? i was crazy once.

[bold quiver]

im only resamppling after a month now, or 2

[dapper prism]

yeh same, i sampled last right after doot release

[bold quiver]

oh damn slacker

[fresh plank]

Anyone with a char that name's starts w/ "S" and not busy? ;D

[signal osprey]

Thats around when I did my last sample on logs

[latent chasm]

@fresh plank watcha need

[signal osprey]

Other samples are from a few weeks earlier than that

[dapper prism]

Daily Atoms helped a bunch xD
https://i.imgur.com/USie9Qa.png

[fresh plank]

👉 👈

[bold quiver]

did u snapshot?

[latent chasm]

where do i go agaian?

again*

[dapper prism]

Tempted to just wait another 3 days before sampling fully to hit that 800m xD

[fresh plank]

Front of me

To say it

[latent chasm]

which is what server

[dapper prism]

Yeh, just boots + cards, idk if there's better cards than this:

[bold quiver]

damn savage

[fresh plank]

Balloon 6 W2

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/YNvadog.png

[fresh plank]

town

[bold quiver]

i snapshoted once, then never gain, too annoying

[barren otter]

[bold quiver]

i dont even swap obols, even tho i have a full rolled wisdom to max stats

[barren otter]

i should also resample

[bold quiver]

[dapper prism]

I mainly just do Family Tree like this:
https://i.imgur.com/hIl0xTb.png

[bold quiver]

thats insane

i dont have a single one like that lol

[dapper prism]

Since that's easy to switch, do all 3 woodcutters first, then mining. and nobody cares about bugs.

[bleak gazelle]

cries in

[signal osprey]

I think today is the day I finally sit down and use some ladles

Its been a long time

[bold quiver]

fastest dish is costing 1 laddle to level?

[dapper prism]

xD

[sick sentinel]

its time to cook

[signal osprey]

No idea I havent looked at cooking in awhile

[bold quiver]

next time i cook will be when that happens lol

[signal osprey]

But I think I had like 11 fluoride 200 dchef and roughly half of the super chow bonus last time

Now those are 17, 760, and full chows

So its gotta be at least a little decent

[bold quiver]

damn just drop 100 on each dish on order from top to bottom, then optime

[latent chasm]

@fresh plank cum back i got an S capital

[bold quiver]

will only cost 5700 and wil speedup a little bit if u want to min max for vman talent

[fresh plank]

Im still thereee

[signal osprey]

Yeah I also never used many ladles last time either

Only like 3 or 4k probably

[bold quiver]

i see

[latent chasm]

@fresh plank i cant see you so lmk if u got it

[bold quiver]

u are going to be cooking for a few hours if u min max lol

[signal osprey]

Think I have like 20k or something still waiting

[fresh plank]

Got it, thanks a bunchhh 😄

[latent chasm]

noice

[dapper prism]

Question:
I'm confused, I just leveled this up and my atom sample is 1:1 the same after leveling this from 4 to 5., I do have 900k Leaves.
https://i.imgur.com/A5Y2J6I.png

[barren otter]

definitely just slap a flat # of laddles per dish and do 0 thinking

min maxing that takes way too long...

[signal osprey]

Heres the fun secret 9 out of 10 lavaflame2's dont want you to know

But leaves arent a resource for the purpose of helium

[dapper prism]

wtf

Then on another note.. would i see a nice change if i got to 1mil leaves?
Also, best way to get these 100k leaves?
https://i.imgur.com/gGFJpwf.png

[latent chasm]

@signal osprey Genius!

@dapper prism fast way is to candy 🙂

[sick sentinel]

w1 crystals for leaves

[signal osprey]

Bean farming

[dapper prism]

but what/where?

oh those all active methods xD

[latent chasm]

the oak tree haha

[signal osprey]

Beans are your answer to all things mining/chopping samples

[sly plank]

the power of 10 bonuses are stepwise? I thought it just took log base 10 of your leaves and that's the multiplier

[signal osprey]

They drop statues, leaves, hotdogs for gold peanuts, and gold noms for gold food stamp

Beans is the true endgame

[sly plank]

if it's stepwise then the last 100k would make a big difference but if it's not then it'll barely affect the multiplier

[signal osprey]

Also yeah its log10

[barren otter]

one day ill be back on beans

[signal osprey]

So going from 900k to 1m wont do much

[dapper prism]

Wouldnt the multiplier increase from 6x to 7x ?

[nimble yarrow]

what level do you guys get your shinies to before moving on to the next?

[dapper prism]

lvl 5

[signal osprey]

The math is log10 which basically means you get partial credit

[near goblet]

get them to lvl 10 to show your superority

[potent maple]

no point past 5 for now though, right?

[signal osprey]

So at 900k you already have most of the bonus you would get at 1m

[echo crag]

you're basicaly missing like 11% of the bonus you gain per step

[dapper prism]

Well yeh, but everything from 100k to 999k would be a multiplier of 6x even if partial, at 1m it would be 7x? Which would mean doing 999k to 1m is a 16.66% increase?

or do you mean it doesnt even go by steps 6x, 7x etc, but literally like 6.8 and stuff?

[signal osprey]

6.8 and stuff

[dapper prism]

For squirrel yes.

[signal osprey]

Basically every single leaf you get will immediately give its benefit even if you dont hit the next power of 10

That is true for every single power of 10 bonus in the game as far as I'm aware

[nimble yarrow]

also with converter should I get everyone to level 100 on spice spillage?

[zinc plume]

Does anybody do dungeons 2 and 3?

[sly plank]

is it worth trying to boost my cauldrons to 170 max (except cost) in preparation for potential future bubbles instead of trying to level sigils? especially if I'm running active bubo for CC since CC doesn't affect sigils right?

[near goblet]

If you are running bubo 170 shouldnt take long

[signal osprey]

You can do it if you want but its more preference than anything

I didnt bother

[sly plank]

gotcha, my bubo isn't the best so I'll come back to it when my CC is better

[signal osprey]

I would rather work on sigils now and get the bonus sooner and then just do more cauldrons in the future if I ever decide that theyre worth doing

[sick sentinel]

upgrade cost reduction can also make it harder for future atomable bubbles

might depend case by case

[sly plank]

yeah I'm not touching cost beyond what I already raised, thanks for the heads up

on that note, do people not raise the iron bar vial then?

[sick sentinel]

some people are working on that

and it just kinda happens to get boosted by other maxed vials

but if you have the bubbles you want in atom range it doesnt really matter

[signal osprey]

I stopped leveling my iron bar vial until I had carpenter in atom range

[sly plank]

thanks all

[sick sentinel]

i have bars producing but its not my focus

[signal osprey]

The iron bar vial is my focus I just wasnt turning them in

[barren otter]

what rank did you have your explosive salts at when you were pushing carpenter to atom?

[signal osprey]

I was at the level that required 25m bars and I had like 600m in storage just waiting for carpenter to catch up

[grand karma]

carpenter is pain man

[potent maple]

i can't find a graphic for worship gathering souls, does anything affect it?

[nimble yarrow]

is there a vman speedrun guide somewhere?

[dapper prism]

#1084911530417606656

[potent maple]

saw some on the youtubes and tips channel

[signal osprey]

You push carpenter by pushing all your other bubbles and letting nblb hit carpenter

[sick sentinel]

w3 pins

[signal osprey]

I was printing mats for random low level bubbles and aggressively pushing bargain tags to like 3k cost each day

[potent maple]

hrm, i looked, i musta missed it i'll look again

[barren otter]

oh fair enough, thats what im doing right now

[sick sentinel]

its like the 3rd one

[barren otter]

thought ppl mightve pushed carp with actual salts

[potent maple]

d'oh, i saw "vman" in the description and thought it was a vman thing and kept scrolling

[half thistle]

I pushed far enough into W5 to get achievements and I'm not sure what to prioritize at this point https://fneebles.idleonefficiency.com

I think the obvious things are unlock void (which I'm working on w/ BB building chow stacks and active DK killing rams) or pushing W5 but I dunno if I have a lot of reason to push W5 yet other than better money drops

[potent maple]

you wanna push divinity hard when you first get to w5, at least until the lab god

you might be past that based on your description though, if so, my bad

[dapper prism]

Ffs i don't want to quit yet but i cant find anything else atm xD
https://i.imgur.com/JnTrCEV.png

[hardy quarry]

Dang, that's a Lotta logs

[dapper prism]

Was at 308m, first sample got me to 761m, trying to min max it and so close to that 800m xD

[half thistle]

Yeah, I have lab god and I have two wizards grinding divinity to get further. I guess I also dunno if that's worthwhile, maybe I should have one getting kills for voidwalker

maybe it's just a good point to step back from playing the game as actively and let stuff pile up more

[fading cape]

did you get as far as you possibly can on all stamps?

[dapper prism]

stamps...

Damn xD

ima get to those in a second, one last thing to test with snapshotting

Guess it's time to check those stamps
https://i.imgur.com/ibTA8JJ.png

[frail mauve]

Is there any list on which stamps to focus on for higher 3d prints?

[signal osprey]

Multitool is the go to

[hardy quarry]

Efficiency, multitool, multi-resource, print sample

Mostly multitool

[dapper prism]

Remember the caps that multi is 300% and print sample is 90%, which are pretty "easy" to hit

[frail mauve]

I "only" got 23 mil prints on oak and copper ore

[zinc plume]

I got my first god 🙂

[signal osprey]

Oh boy this ladle session is probably gonna last a couple hours if I try to be efficient about it

Better get comfortable I guess

[frail mauve]

Do you have the names or pictures of them? I am not sure which i have and don't. I would check idle effi site but cant atm

[green eagle]

just broke into the last tier. quitting at 250k hours

and close to maxing this task shop as well

[signal osprey]

Soon

[green eagle]

this achievement is painfully slow

[hollow prairie]

wow!

beginner here

[serene solstice]

best joke in my life

[pearl quail]

My first HH in 4 weeks someone help me out come at Lava 17?

[dapper prism]

I DID IT!!! 🥳
Took a while, but from 308 to 762, after more fine tune to 800!
https://i.imgur.com/oX5cUnA.png

Hell of a min max xD

[wooden elk]

25 items to go for 1300 Slab, pretty excited to get that wrapped up.

[runic girder]

How to get more passive crit chance?

[sick sentinel]

statue, accuracy, meal are the big ones

[runic girder]

Meal is a good one

[wooden elk]

There are several VIP talent books that boost it substantially based off accuracy overflow.

[runic girder]

Also wdym accuracy?

Oowh that one

[sick sentinel]

what kylea said ye

[delicate thistle]

what happens if you crash in the middle of doing TD

[runic girder]

I would need a lot more accuracy im there before i motice a change

[runic girder]

Probably saves the last round of 10 you completed

[wooden elk]

Focus Shaq bubble and increase relevant stats for accuracy gains by class would be the first step then.

[delicate thistle]

Ah

[runic girder]

Already have 6m overflow, quite a heavy investment for quite little change there

[wooden elk]

Go look through the 68 possible results, was just naming a few I thought might help.

[hardy quarry]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Multitool_Stamp
Is the big one, because it doesn't receive diminished value from having a low mining/chopping/fishing/catching level.
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Stamps
Otherwise the efficiency ones for each skill help here, and just maxing stamps as much as you feasibly can stealth buffs your ability to raise stamps even further thanks to the golden stamp bonus from rift.

[dreamy vector]

Super chow kills worth it?

[nimble yarrow]

for the slab if you get a weapon does it give you all the previous weapons if you are too high level for the,?

[green eagle]

there is never a time where something like that is not worth it. it can just take too long to bother with if you're too low in certain aspects of the game

[green eagle]

are you talking about dungeon?

[nimble yarrow]

yeah

[green eagle]

yes, pick up a weapon in dungeon and it will give you all the previous versions if you don't have it already

[nimble yarrow]

ty

[green eagle]

latest cc progress

need to keep pushing the bubble at such

[nimble yarrow]

I just did the dungeon to unlock some weapons for my archer, but it only unlocked the weapon i got not all the previous ones

[zinc torrent]

i got a bunch of 95% discount stamps. what stamp best to push with that? gold food?

[green eagle]

i'm telling you that is what it is supposed to do

[lost beacon]

Cooking Eff, Carry Cap, Golden Food, Multikill

[green eagle]

that's all i can find atm, but i know that was in the patch notes at some point

[olive kestrel]

are you looking at IE or the actual slab, IE doesn't update with that information for a little while but actual slab should

[green eagle]

and i know it worked like that for me, no more dungeon items atm

[olive kestrel]

25m purgatory stalker kills, still no recipe 🙂

[hollow wasp]

my game crashed i didnt realize, idk when

i was learning makeup :<

1hour 16, noooooooo

[green eagle]

doesn't matter if you're counting MK

[olive kestrel]

yeah, IK, still just feels bad

[green eagle]

if you're telling me you have 25m base kills then you have like .5 drop rate lmao

[olive kestrel]

no lol, 25m on deathnote 8x dr

[dreamy merlin]

Once i ynlock kitsune rock should I try to get at least t4 on every plant for log book?

[olive kestrel]

next stop is suggma recipe

[hollow wasp]

suggma what

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[green eagle]

[hollow wasp]

[teal lynx]

Ugh learning how to do Makeup sucks
Also really sucks your Game crashed. Hope you atleast got blessed by good Omni procs or new Artifacts

[hollow wasp]

nah, but i got some cute pictures atleast xd

[stuck shell]

Can someone send me a screenshot of their sampling set up, wanting to see who does the monster drops

[hollow wasp]

i use ES, has highest dmg for me rn

[upper osprey]

Idk if this belongs here or w2 since this is a problem most people in world 2 wouldn't have. How do I tank my speed on my BB from 151% speed? He's my slowest character and has nothing boosting speed that I'm aware of

[olive kestrel]

if you have vman, sampling during speedrun is way better than anyone else can be

[hollow wasp]

Win + Shift + S :x

[tranquil surge]

is kitsune rock worth using in gaming at low level?

[stuck shell]

Sat again? You can sample during the speedrun and it gives higher gains?

[upper osprey]

I do not have discord on PC

[stuck shell]

Same but my BB has higher afk kills, wanted to see an example

[nimble yarrow]

to farm forge time i just leave my SB on citringes or something yeah

[upper osprey]

Am I just fucked?

[olive kestrel]

yeah, during speedrun MK is higher, and if you sample after using the aoe talent you get crazy samples

[teal lynx]

I think so. The only negative speed i know of is in Constelations. And this is only -12%
I would still wait for other answers tho

[stuck shell]

Thats great thank you

[upper osprey]

Cool cool, if there's no solution should I put it in bug reports?