lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[buoyant valley]

quite possible

[vagrant mountain]

im not cuz i have doot 😆

[buoyant valley]

i gotchu

[vagrant mountain]

i have a couple linked for aesthetics

[hollow wasp]

i have that choco chip i also have some crystal cards

[buoyant valley]

IE doesnt account for doot

[barren otter]

it does

[dapper prism]

Also forgot, lastly would be Drop Rate (cards/obols)

[hollow wasp]

so better farm pop obols first?

[buoyant valley]

not automatically, it seems

[barren otter]

well that guy has 0 companions apparently

[crisp silo]

uhh ie dosent track well with companions

[dapper prism]

Think it only updates once u go back and open the pet guy

[crisp silo]

seems like it wipes

[vagrant mountain]

I was planning on finishing my obol grind, then i'll have 8.5~ DR and I'm gonna farm hampters for mat bags so i can upgrade all my stamps, thanks for this ima work on this and hopefully i'll have both finished and I can push some more w5 maps

[barren otter]

mine has tracked companions since they added it to IE so figured it would work with public profiles too

[dapper prism]

Hampter grind is extremely slow btw, may want to make sure your ES has good dmg

[crisp silo]

public profiles with companions are like hella bugged

[barren otter]

oh youre right

[vagrant mountain]

just need one to upgrades some stamps

[barren otter]

just uploaded mine and it shows none damn

[vagrant mountain]

have 100/200 for the bag already

any tips for breeding? im stuck on this stage

[dapper prism]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[dapper prism]

All you need is there

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

once you have snelbie, everything should be possible, getting flashy pet (rabbit) can just speed it up abit

[crisp silo]

do arena for the last slot

[vagrant mountain]

how do i get more power on my pets? splicer?

[lunar sleet]

actually i do have companions, im missing bean and 3 of the rarest ones

[barren otter]

yea i wasnt aware that public profiles didnt account for any companions

[dapper prism]

pet power is based on breeding level. but power is "basically" irrelevant. like 10k pets can easily do it. the power just makes it faster to get to 200+

[buoyant valley]

Breeding levels, and Beast Master Talents

[dapper prism]

Or Pet power range* and then stuff like egg rarity have higher chance at higher power.

[vagrant mountain]

ohhh

[twilit goblet]

just get the 6th slot then use the safe comp

[vagrant mountain]

i think i can only get to 80~

[lunar sleet]

i recently managed to unlock "Construct mastery" but i didn't get an increase in dmg although the mastery screen shows "87% dmg". Did the game apply the extra dmg before i unlocked the mastery or am i missing something?

[vagrant mountain]

nvm 55~

[dapper prism]

Did you change map to check?

[buoyant valley]

forgot to include equipment talents to highest level you have available. Golden Fury Relic will help alot

[lunar sleet]

yes, even restarted the game

[vagrant mountain]

id love for golden fury relic

might buy gem shop ancient thing

[lavish quiver]

Plunder kills ... Zzz

[glad mountain]

then you should've gotten it, but its additive to some other shit so its not a big increase

[dapper prism]

The big thing is Refinery reduction

[lunar sleet]

ah alright, might have just missed the small increase then

[vagrant mountain]

how

[dapper prism]

? Because Con mastery gives you a lot of refinery speed very quickly

[lunar sleet]

now that you mention it, i am seeing a big increase in ref speed

[dapper prism]

Think it halved my refinery cycles

[vagrant mountain]

o

dammit i have to do rift

[dapper prism]

My Reinfery Cycles are 1m 11s for page 1 and 4m 44s for page 2

[vagrant mountain]

mine are like 2x that damn

[dapper prism]

And the main jump came from con mastery

[vagrant mountain]

[glad mountain]

doesnt matter since you got the doot

[hollow wasp]

pogchamp, my first maxed out cauldron

[mystic mountain]

170 boosts as well? 😮

[hollow wasp]

what does this mean

[hollow wasp]

ahhh nah

i managed to max all 4 cauldrons in the p2w tab

cool

but now im poor

[vagrant mountain]

pray for me

[hollow wasp]

good luck

[mystic mountain]

it'll come back for you 😄

[hollow wasp]

how do we get those wings btw

[vagrant mountain]

i love obols

[hollow wasp]

aw

[vagrant mountain]

what wings

[hollow wasp]

the wings to upgrade obols

[vagrant mountain]

theyre obol fragments

you have to trash obols

[hollow wasp]

ohhh aight

i see thanks

i didnt rly mess with obols yet

[noble mesa]

U need to

[vagrant mountain]

im so close yet so far

[hollow wasp]

ye i do huh

[vagrant mountain]

[mystic mountain]

first one?

[vagrant mountain]

second

[barren otter]

1 in a million it says

[lavish quiver]

300+ DR from obols is why you want them

[untold saffron]

Should I get two sets of personal DR obols🤔

[barren otter]

meanwhile i have to delete them

cause im running out of storage space

[vagrant mountain]

these last ones are the hardest

[untold saffron]

There seems to be space for another set of something but I don't know what to make it

[lavish quiver]

You arent 3000 account level yet?

[vagrant mountain]

why you call me out like that?

[lavish quiver]

Which char is slacking

[noble mesa]

Were can i farm dice obols?

[untold saffron]

W2 crystals innit?

[vagrant mountain]

there are a couple hehe, im like 2800 family

i think bb and dk 2

[lavish quiver]

That GT bubble small isnt it

[vagrant mountain]

[lavish quiver]

oh yea

[jagged relic]

Why hasn't the hit detection been fixed for the mining mini game??? Its literally awful

It starts at the middle of the cart...

[vagrant mountain]

i crash on purpose

[frigid acorn]

get lucky lad from kuttle guess im not really lucky

[hollow wasp]

the party system is so ass in this game

its so hard to get a dungeon group going

[vagrant mountain]

there are a lot of things wrong with the game

[frigid acorn]

better you want to join an active guild for that

[hollow wasp]

i have an guild, but idk, whenever i ask for dungeons they dead

[lavish quiver]

Or go to party finder maybe

[hollow wasp]

i never managed to defeat frog 4 :<

in idk 8 weeks or so

[glad mountain]

#party-finder-👪 this is gonna make your life a whole lot easier

[untold saffron]

You can talk in guilds?😂

[dapper prism]

Think nobody even uses ingame chat unless you see the bubble next to you xD

[hollow wasp]

there is a guildchat, but we also have a guild discord

[dapper prism]

Either way for dungeons just use #party-finder-👪

[untold saffron]

Fancy

[dapper prism]

Postponing my samples yet another time.. when you want to touch up your talents and end up spenidng 1.5h doing it on all chars :/

[twilit goblet]

if ive already unlocked till purmep, should i put my guy on mantra or just chakra/vitalic?

currently chakra gives me 32xp per hour while mantra is 16 xp

[dreamy merlin]

Mantra is for everyone,that's why its good

[opaque sun]

The other gods still provides blessings, so id say continue on

[dapper prism]

It's good to continue but I doubt they'd even have the atoms to level the total dmg?

[untold saffron]

Yeah unlock them all

[twilit goblet]

yea atoms are kinda slow, im mainly getting stuff to try to get 300% on the big skilling bubbles atm

[untold saffron]

What if bagur comes out broken good and they're stuck without him for not continuing though

[jagged relic]

Anyone need a sheepie?😭

[barren otter]

give us kattlecruk link bonus already...

[calm knoll]

Why does this go to 20 if snail has a 25 level cap?

[dapper prism]

Well yeh true, but at this point going for vitalic instead of focus may be good for the xp to catch up, even though they'd half their point gain.

[untold saffron]

I don't need more issues deciding what to link honestly

[barren otter]

i have doot...

[untold saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mr-skeltal-angry-doot-gif-4931348

[untold saffron]

Maybe we'll get level 100 snails in future

[barren otter]

no but actually

kattlecruk link bonus gonna be wild i bet

[lavish quiver]

.00001% chance rage induces

[untold saffron]

Watch it be dogshit

[barren otter]

if its dogshit then oh well

[hollow wasp]

got this from the 300 keychain things, is good?

[calm knoll]

Krunker god - double bubble bonus if you have the next giga rare companion if not you get bullied for being poor

[dapper prism]

very good

[untold saffron]

Of course if you have doot anything is Wild because it's just free bonuses

[barren otter]

[untold saffron]

My friend is still buying the max Green gem pack per week towards doot

And here I am, buying £800 yugioh Cards instead

[calm knoll]

Smart man, I can build 3 mtg decks and fuck around and still be under budget for Doot

[lavish quiver]

at least its a physical thing that exists

[barren otter]

why play with cardboard when you can have pixels

[tight ridge]

210 to 294 in 10 hours

Chadfu incoming you better watch out

[mystic mountain]

active?

[tight ridge]

yeah

[mystic mountain]

ah

[tight ridge]

295 now

[mystic mountain]

leveling mine now too, he went from 180 to 245 in about 24 hours xd

[dapper prism]

lol he struggling with dmg? xD

[tight ridge]

he doesnt one shot the crystals yet so could be way better

[untold saffron]

No-one can tell me this isn't worth every penny

[barren otter]

need some more dmg there lol

[lavish quiver]

Dont they lose exp over time?

[tight ridge]

best i can do atm

[vagrant mountain]

so much crystal countdown 😆

[barren otter]

im also active on my vman right now too

but it might be a lvl GT angle

this is getting way too slow

[lavish quiver]

what GT you at

[barren otter]

900

[lavish quiver]

Oh yea might need more of that

[barren otter]

each crystal is 0.38%...

yea

definitely seems like a GT grind angle

[teal lynx]

Why didn't i do Dungeon runs sooner

[vagrant mountain]

because the other times its like 5 base damage and 1 move speed

[hollow wasp]

isthis fine to try to farm some pop obols?

[tight ridge]

best you can do early is just start cuz the pops will make farming more pops easier

[barren otter]

if you have choco chip id rec farming dice first

[hollow wasp]

i have this equipped

[tight ridge]

whats ur drop rate cards at

[hollow wasp]

i have choco chip

[tight ridge]

might be wise to 4 star them first

[tight ridge]

choco chip is useless for pop obols

[barren otter]

he was responding to me

[tight ridge]

okay yeah its not pop obol time for you yet

[vagrant mountain]

choco chip doesnt hurt

heh

[hollow wasp]

DK and dice obols?

[mystic mountain]

yeah i think so

[hollow wasp]

at what monster

[mystic mountain]

sand castles right?

[vagrant mountain]

probably farm card drop cards then drop rate cards then pops

[barren otter]

getting full dice is significantly easier

[tight ridge]

priority for you rn is Card drop rate cards ti 4* or dk dice obols

[opaque sun]

awful drop rate, but i guess you have to start working on those drop rate obols to get better at it some time

[barren otter]

snelbies on dk for dice if your statue knight disc lvl is low

[mystic mountain]

but i'd agree with heifu you're probably better off farming your DR cards to a better tier

[tight ridge]

yeah^

[opaque sun]

Like the crystal carrot one should be real quick

[hollow wasp]

k so i go to snelbies first, its 0star card

[hollow wasp]

rly?

oh, on dk right

[barren otter]

tbf its one or the other

you either farm DR cards with low drop rate

[vagrant mountain]

crystals shit out cards like no one's business

[barren otter]

or you farm dice obols with low drop rate

just gotta start on one at least

[hollow wasp]

so i definetly go on my dk, right?

[tight ridge]

if it were me id do card dr cards> dr cards> dice obols> pop obols> crystal cards for choco chip

[vagrant mountain]

probably start with snelbies on DK

[hollow wasp]

why snelbies on dk? isnt it better to farm cards on es?

[vagrant mountain]

then go mustache with ES

map is just good for DK and you need dice obols right?

[barren otter]

well hold on

[hollow wasp]

ohh i see

[barren otter]

what are you crystal spawn cards at

[hollow wasp]

this is on my ES rn

[vagrant mountain]

[barren otter]

should start with farming DR cards then

[tight ridge]

yeah do this then

will help your account immensley

[vagrant mountain]

get your card drop cards and then crystal cards

[hollow wasp]

so i max out these 3 with ES

[tight ridge]

yes

[hollow wasp]

aighty

[barren otter]

might even get a pop obol while 4* frog cards 😉

[hollow wasp]

i have a few pop obols from there while farming cards

[tight ridge]

nice

you can reroll them to get an extra %

[hollow wasp]

they wont get destroyed?

[tight ridge]

low chance to i think

or wait no

[lavish quiver]

reroll wont destroy only combined

[pulsar cliff]

No breaks on rerolls

[tight ridge]

they get destroyed if u combine only ye

[hexed crescent]

The rerolled obol can get destroyed later when you combine though

[hollow wasp]

and whats does reroll do?

[tight ridge]

if u got the fragments you can reroll they can become 3%

[hexed crescent]

If you reroll bronze

[hollow wasp]

can i reroll agi obols to pop obols

or what is it

[lavish quiver]

only the right one gets destroyed

[lyric sequoia]

And only the right hand 1 breaks. Always put the 1 with the higher misc stat in left as combine takes the stats of that 1 and doesn’t destroy it

[granite grove]

rerolled obols on the left slot, regular obols on the right slot of combining

so when it fails, it wont take out the rerolled obols

[tight ridge]

no you dont care about the stats you want the 2% drop to become 3%

[hollow wasp]

lets see how long this will take

[tight ridge]

on all ur pop obols when u get them

[hollow wasp]

thanks

[tight ridge]

itll only get faster from here you got this

[hollow wasp]

thanks champ

[lavish quiver]

Idk if anyone asked but, do you have DR chips they help up to 5x i believe

[tacit creek]

i got king doot but i dont have world 5, is king doot useless

[zinc torrent]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[hollow wasp]

no

[lyric sequoia]

To you, yes

[hollow wasp]

not a single card yet from snelbies

[lyric sequoia]

A character must be level 2 in divinity to have doot take effect

[tacit creek]

ok

[somber sparrow]

is the prayer fibers of absence any useful for gmush farming?

[opaque sun]

to be more precise, if your active character doesnt have divinity level of 2, doot disables completely on everyone

[hollow wasp]

btw, i didnt did any efaunt thingy yet, should i do it? xd

is efaunt armor any good

or is it whatever

i sit on purple armor atm

[hexed crescent]

#newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳

[somber sparrow]

u can probs skip it then, its not very good in itself and its bonuses dont beat dementia by too much

[vagrant mountain]

get those arcade balls

[hollow wasp]

k maxed them

[solid haven]

since shiny pets are now important, would you say that increasing fenceyard limit (gem purchase) is now a must or it's not that high of priority??

[hexed crescent]

Somewhere in between

[somber sparrow]

is the prayer fibers of absence any useful for gmush farming? Has any1 tested this yet?

[vagrant mountain]

most of the time, its not worth it

[solid haven]

how many fenceyard slots are there in total btw? Can't really browse wiki atm cause it lags...

[somber sparrow]

as many as u can see even if they arent unlocked

3 lines

[grand karma]

get it for slab

[somber sparrow]

with dementia the feeling strikes me hes not a slabber yet XD

[grand karma]

oh right nvm then, dont bother with it that much lol

[runic girder]

After some buboing i found out worms is a really fun map when i dont get oneshot by crystals

[hollow wasp]

what is slab xd

[solid haven]

w5 thing, nothing to worry

[runic girder]

Youre in w5 and dont know slab?

[hollow wasp]

yes sir

im only at this map yet

[runic girder]

You know hunter talent looty mcshooty?

[opaque sun]

W1-W4 chat refugees come here and endgame quite often

[runic girder]

Its at the first map

Like town

[solid haven]

slab is just a collection log, nothing else xD

[hollow wasp]

ohhh

this thing

ye i know it haha

[runic girder]

Big black rock

[hollow wasp]

what gives u dmg or drop or smth for every unique item

after 500

[vagrant mountain]

bbr

[hollow wasp]

i just dont know all these words

[runic girder]

Think it can give a few more things

[runic girder]

Just glad that r and c arent close on tge keyboard

[woeful current]

So i got to world 5 and i got doot and i am wondering on how you activate him so you get the benefits, it seems like you need to have the firs char on your account doing divinity to be able to benefit from it or is it only working if you link your first char to a god?

[fervent yew]

pulls hair out, just hit level 100 in gaming... but my DK doesn't wanna update their level, so am stuck on level 999 for Skill mastery

[runic girder]

Lvl 2 divinity needed from what i heard

[opaque sun]

active character need div level 2 or else doot disables

[solid haven]

happened to me with breeding also. My first char is one level lower than others

[vagrant mountain]

just jump on altar with all of your characters, you know doot is active when you go into 3D printer and all of your prints are purple

[woeful current]

Aight so everyone needs lvl 2 divinity, i guess ill wait a lil bit more for it to work

[runic girder]

Throw all of them on the altar for a bit

Wont take long to level 2 and its HUGE

[fervent yew]

you'll want to up your divinity anyway as that'll give you bigger benefits from each of the gods

[solid haven]

sounds suspiciously like a sacrifice :P

[woeful current]

yea thanks i will have them there for a lil bit longer 😄

[runic girder]

Who says it isnt

[vagrant mountain]

your prints will be this colour when they are active

[solid haven]

I wonder if there are any w5-ers out there without using printer

[runic girder]

I freaking hope not

[woeful current]

Yea, i know i saw that 😛 when i checked but as soon as i removed my first char it got removed hence why i asked 😄

[runic girder]

Maybe nyxon idk

[opaque sun]

there are many “I just reached w5” not using royal sampler because they dont use printer

[vagrant mountain]

just making sure hehe, i feel like a lot of people dont know doot is active when it really is

[opaque sun]

And they claim “i didnt skip alchemy, look at my 5 bubbles unlocked has 10 levels each!”

[woeful current]

Yea, i figured well some of my chars are lvl 2 and they are getting the bonus i guess everyone needs to be lvl 2 for it to be active picture from lab and non of them are in lab

hmm Some how my first char isnt lvl 2 lul

[vagrant mountain]

try restarting game

[solid haven]

Tbh, I kinda am ignoring the worship part (so my prayers are kinda low lvls XD)

I'm always like..."I'll collect it tomorrow", then remember 1 week later...

[hollow wasp]

this choco chip iis amazing, i have a streak of like 14 crystal monster lol

[woeful current]

lul he needs 1 xp

[solid haven]

long 1h, huh?

[woeful current]

well the doot bonus is not active odly enough

[rustic garnet]

are you sure you are dooting it right?

[vagrant mountain]

try restarting your game

[rustic garnet]

have you unlocked w5 and all the gods?

[woeful current]

i just restated the game

[rustic garnet]

that's a super low sample which suggets you are relatively early doors

[woeful current]

Yea i just got to world 5 last night

[rustic garnet]

with doot on a new account?

I don't think you get gods you don't have unlocked

[runic girder]

Unlocking god weirdly enough isnt a requirement

[rustic garnet]

huh ok

you sure?

[woeful current]

well

i changed char

[runic girder]

Based on what ive heard, yes

[woeful current]

and now it works fucking odd lul

[vagrant mountain]

you get all the gods major bonuses but only minor bonuses and blessings from the ones you unlock

[runic girder]

And now i got something to back it up

[rustic garnet]

right

so you get the lab connection (major bonus) but not the stuff like AFK% time and % damage

[solid haven]

lol, that's funny to get effect of unknown god....even ES can't do that

[steady token]

👀 how long does it take from w1 to w5 with doot? 2 weeks?

[runic girder]

So the pain is still there

[runic girder]

Same as without doot

[woeful current]

well thanks, i will just leave them doing divinity for an few hours hopefully it all works out

[eager zinc]

how to you guys farm?

[runic girder]

He doesnt do anything until youre in w5

[rustic garnet]

Now that I've maxed all of my alch brewing...
Do I get exp if they are in sigil area?

[vagrant mountain]

doot doesnt work without divinity but i got to w5 in like 6 weeks by throwing money at the game

[woeful current]

Main reason i rushed to world 5

[solid haven]

out of curiosity, with doot, does linking to a good link it twice...?

[rustic garnet]

Does water speed up count?

[runic girder]

You got all bubbles?

[near goblet]

no

you still need to link to purrmep though

[vagrant mountain]

it just shows the god in your character lobby

[rustic garnet]

yeah, if you have maxed all of these, it's highly likely to have all bubbles 😉

[opaque sun]

when active on a character at div levl 1, doot deactivates for everyone

[solid haven]

so doot makes ES skill meaningless?

[runic girder]

Even the future ones?

[rustic garnet]

how many future ones are there?

[near goblet]

15

[runic girder]

3 worlds so 15 i guess

[rustic garnet]

15?

[near goblet]

there is 5 for each world

[rustic garnet]

does it stop letting me click research?

[runic girder]

Yep, you can preunlock them

[vagrant mountain]

i gave up at 52m brew

[broken plaza]

That feeling when you find out that world five is too hot for Candy

[runic girder]

Just keep spamming brew

[prisma drift]

Bruh

[runic girder]

If you get bubble 26 it lights up the arrow but idk if theres any indication if you have all

[prisma drift]

Actually gonna eclipse skull before recipe drop

[runic girder]

(Cant go up to the page with the bubblea)

[rustic garnet]

Do I know if this is 'done'?

[prisma drift]

You need 40
Bubbles total

[runic girder]

I got one bubboe above the normal 25 lol, i have no clue

[prisma drift]

I think garde would know what w8 bubble cost is

If you wanted to get them all there I think they had been keeping track

[opaque sun]

the cost to next was some indicator of how much you pre unlocked

[runic girder]

Does it not stop you from wasting 'brew' when you have all?

[prisma drift]

It’s not a waste

You’ll have the bubbles when they release

[lunar sleet]

https://nugis.idleonefficiency.com/

[runic girder]

I mean when you reach 40

[prisma drift]

Oh I doubt it but I’m only at 30

[lunar sleet]

Can i do something F2P to increase my dmg easily or do i really need to throw money at the game for it_

[prisma drift]

I stopped at w6 bubbles

[opaque sun]

When the cost for the next says something like 50m-100m+, you should be good for a long time

[runic girder]

Fair enough, w7 is the far future

[rustic garnet]

142 million, 0% chance to up

[hollow wasp]

alrighty, lets see if i can get thiis done today

[prisma drift]

W7 is at least a year I’d dare say

[opaque sun]

Lava rounded of 0.01% i suppose

[vagrant mountain]

w6*

[prisma drift]

Nah w6 I’d say under 3 months

[runic girder]

W6 isnt another whole year id guess

[runic girder]

3 months? My guess would be around decemeber

[pulsar cliff]

You don't need to throw money, but it's a really vague question you've asked haha.

[opaque sun]

w6 is just going to be 3 maps. Town, a farming map, and boss

[vagrant mountain]

at this rate, it took 3 weeks to release 3 new languages and a single atom

[rustic garnet]

W6 is, if Lava intends to win back any faith in his fans, very soon and incorporates all of the stuff pets did/broke

but I'm worried his update of 3 languages and 1 atom is a sign that he's not invested

[runic girder]

When you get to w6 everyone gets a free doot

[prisma drift]

[vagrant mountain]

or that hes trying to monetize by expanding to other countries

[opaque sun]

the language update also has lot of placeholders, so its half assed

[rustic garnet]

Not sure how that's copium, he's fractured the game

[prisma drift]

Copium to think he’s gonna “fix”anything

[rustic garnet]

he did something like this before where he put something in that was P2W

and he reversed course through patches that gave people the ability to 'do' it without gems

The W3 saga

[opaque sun]

Like all items in the gem shop is “blank”. I wonder if lava is not afraid to false advertise premium items to those 3 gacha countries

[prisma drift]

I mean he said pets were here to stay so I don’t see a way to fix it without telling the p2w players to fuck themselves

Like giving everyone doot would spit in everyone’s face who spent money

[vagrant mountain]

the only way all the bugs are gonna get fixed is if lava lets go of his solo developer pride and hire a team

[rustic garnet]

I mean, sounds like you spent money for doot and are salty if someone else gets the thing you got

[prisma drift]

I have 2 doots and I’m giving one away

[opaque sun]

“Back in my days we didnt have phones, so you shouldnt too”

[prisma drift]

So im not salty but it’s a fact that it’s bad business practice

[rustic garnet]

You have 2 doots, so you bought your doot, just like I said

[lunar sleet]

what i meant by that is, i seem to have reached some sort of limit to my DPS (bubo is at 64b) and getting it higher just seems so slow. At the moment im trying to get alchemy bubbles to higher lvls as it seems to be the main advice for getting higher lvls of DPS. Is there anything that i've missed that could possibly get my DPS higher so that i could try progressing either in rift (got to 41 but cant get any further) or try doing nightmare kattle?

[prisma drift]

Yes but you said I was salty

Which makes your comment incorrect

[rustic garnet]

sounds like you are protecting your investment

[vagrant mountain]

its like buying a car and then everyone else gets a car for free, yeah people are gonna be salty

[prisma drift]

Sir I just said I was giving a doot away lmao

[rustic garnet]

salty is subjective, you seem to not want others to get what you got

[prisma drift]

Reading is hard for you I get it

[rustic garnet]

At what part of 'giving a doot away' is counter to 'not wanting everyone to have your thing'

giving ONE person a doot doesn't change have/have nots overall

[prisma drift]

Alright we are back to f2p whiners about doot

So I’m outta here lol

[rustic garnet]

and you get to look cool doing it

[vagrant mountain]

he could give everyone a doot but then no one is gonna buy any of his bs

[rustic garnet]

and everyone is gonna be like 'omg hoggindaz, you are so awesome'

[pure meadow]

tbh you sound confontational. hoggi is totally right that if he gives away doots in the next few month all the people who paid will be angry as heck. and thats even understandable. its just bad business and scummy

[sharp wind]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-drama-fight-entertain-getting-good-gif-16910025

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/3514bc5e6b628c8cb53124d975a5f379.png

Fine then, I didn't want that green stack anyway. beastmaster continues to be my least favourite child

[glad mountain]

isnt that basically what mrbeast does?

[prisma drift]

That’s what I’m saying Nate is just salty still

[rustic garnet]

And if everyone got 'something like doot' you'd be annoyed, right?

[prisma drift]

Nope

[untold saffron]

nullo salty or redox salty?

[prisma drift]

Me personally no

I don’t spend money I need on this game

So I wouldn’t care

[opaque sun]

beast master is more like “lend me your drone license for the family and you can go to sleep” man

[prisma drift]

It is a game after all

[pure meadow]

thats the problem tbh, he should have never added a bonus like doot. you cant fix it anymore without making people mad

[pulsar cliff]

So, for what it's worth, it's an incremental. Without seeing how you're geared, can't really say. But i's just a lot of small progress in a lot of small ways. I can't even tell you if there was something specific I did to go from 10b to 1T. Just ... a lot of small things over time.

[pure meadow]

but we argued that to death already

[prisma drift]

Truest take

[pure meadow]

so nothing we can do

[fervent yew]

Make every rotations top pet have Doots effect, remove the FOMO element of it at least

[vagrant mountain]

i think it can be fixed easily by making it gems instead of green crystals but thats my take

[rustic garnet]

so either make 98% of your players happy, or 2% not unhappy

[pure meadow]

that still screws all the people who already paid to a certain extend

[prisma drift]

Main issue is those 2% are his main source of income

[untold saffron]

why are we talking about this again honestly? we're not gonna get anywhere

[prisma drift]

So why would he screw them over lol

[pure meadow]

those 2% are the ones willing to throw thousands of dollars at him, you dont want to make those angry, thats why its bad business and was a mistake

[prisma drift]

That’s why I don’t see any real changes

[vagrant mountain]

id be happy if he refunded me gems for my rolls, and he doesnt lose anything really by pumping gems into the game

[rustic garnet]

Ahh but does it screw them? How does it? It's a single player game! Other's 'stuff' doesn't impact them! (Turning a bad argument backwards)

[lunar sleet]

https://nugis.idleonefficiency.com/

[fervent yew]

he can't offer gems to green gems becaus people can f with regular gems, hence why Green gems and pets are all server locked, prevents people cheating them.

[vagrant mountain]

but like... who really cares

[heady scaffold]

🍿

[fervent yew]

he does, if its his income xD

[untold saffron]

just make daily quests with green gem rewards, ez

don't make them an item, have them instantly added to your total

[rustic garnet]

I think he should just start throwing green gems out for 'stuff'

blue gems were 'cheated'

so make green gems the new blue that aren't cheated

end of

[prisma drift]

He should just make daily tasks give 5 green gems each

[vagrant mountain]

gee maybe fix blue gems instead of making green crystals

[sharp wind]

https://tenor.com/view/drama-popcorn-movie-demi-lovato-crazy-gif-5785850

[untold saffron]

doots have supposedly been cheated too

[rustic garnet]

yep

[untold saffron]

hell, even Lv 25 snails have been cheated

[rustic garnet]

doots have 100% been cheated

[untold saffron]

the whole game can probably be edited in CE

[rustic garnet]

and yeah

[pure meadow]

i mean, you could argue that they had the benefit of already having the buff month ago, but that still could lead to other big arguments and even sueing. there is a reason gacha games usually avoid nerfing new stuff/making it accessible to everyone before a long time passed. Its to cover their asses

[rustic garnet]

This is how many Gacha games work, giving people 2+ months of the good stuff before

[pure meadow]

that would be decent suggestion i think

[rustic garnet]

So saying you didn't reap massive rewards of having a 2+ month head start is completely wrong

[prisma drift]

I mean my sailing looking nice

Ngl

[pure meadow]

i didnt say that i think?

[rustic garnet]

making things more accessible isn't 'sueable' btw

this idea of being able to sue a person for adding something to the game is ludicrous and overtly unreal

nerfing things too

but with 'nerfs' you could feasibly ask for a refund

[vagrant mountain]

can we stop talking about doot like this is gen chat and talk about tremor wurms and plants and boats and stuff

[prisma drift]

Wdym w5 was like the worst when doot came out

[untold saffron]

class action lawsuit for devaluing my divinity only idleman account with doot

[rustic garnet]

w5 is the area impacted

[pure meadow]

yeah, my bad, lets stop. we already talked about this a few times

[prisma drift]

I stayed out of w5 chat for a whole week when doot released lol

[prisma furnace]

What stat is better skill speed or efficiency?

[sharp wind]

sexy

[rustic garnet]

I think it's one of the topics that will repeat for a while

[untold saffron]

that was a mistake, it was great fun

and then the banhammer nation attacked

[prisma drift]

I don’t mind the topic but I hate the echo chamber

[rustic garnet]

echo chamber???

It's not an echo chamber at all

[prisma drift]

I didn’t say right now

[vagrant mountain]

but i love reading the same arguments over and over

[rustic garnet]

there is discourse and disagreement

[prisma drift]

First week was an echo chamber

And that’s a 100% fact

[rustic garnet]

was it though?

[prisma drift]

Yes

[rustic garnet]

Or was it just that MOST people thought it was awful?

[vagrant mountain]

its literally same 3 arguments over and over

[rustic garnet]

and then a lot of people quit/got banned and stopped talking about it?

[prisma drift]

I mean if everyone is just repeating the same argument 100 times an hour I’d say that’s an echo chamber lol

[rustic garnet]

That's not what an echo chamber is though

[prisma drift]

When regarding conversations people use echo chamber to say something is just repeated over and over

At least that’s how I’ve heard it used

[rustic garnet]

an echo chamber is when you say something, everyone else agrees, and they gravitate to the same place where agreement is

[untold saffron]

pets should of had the same bonus as their respective card at ruby tier and rarity to the card set and I will die on that hill

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-stop-gif-5622633

[rustic garnet]

an echo chamber is where what you say is agreed with by others and people agree and agree and attract other agree'ers

[prisma drift]

Eh still an echo chamber then lmao

[untold saffron]

is there an alternative leaderboard anywhere, i liked using it as a benchmark for how i was progressing

[prisma drift]

All I hear is the echos of suggma screams

[pure meadow]

i havent had luck with the recipe yet either 😦

[prisma drift]

As they drop the 2200 royal sugma urn

[vagrant mountain]

you can upgrade your stamp now!

[lavish quiver]

Wish i had 2200 royal urns

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/6f984e70e76b35d39c483567dabb5e69.png

it is a struggle for sure

[prisma drift]

I wish I had 0

720m 😦

[lavish quiver]

xD almost a billion

[prisma drift]

The vial is at 500m ashes

[sharp wind]

beautiful day

[prisma drift]

Gonna max the damn vial too

[pure meadow]

damn, those are nice, congratz

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/c6fc76571315c53e64302c0bf14d0f15.png

twinning💪

[rustic garnet]

An echo chamber circulates existing views without encountering opposing views, potentially resulting in confirmation bias. Echo chambers may increase social and political polarization and extremism.

[pulsar cliff]

Blew up your DMs.

[prisma drift]

Man just let it all go

Go take a hot bath or something

You need it

[vagrant mountain]

yeah you stinky

[prisma drift]

I meant like they are relaxing

[rustic garnet]

I'm glad you learned something at least 😉

[prisma drift]

Shower if you are stinky don’t bathe

Man is so salty he clown emoted me

[vagrant mountain]

you never tried bath bombs

[prisma drift]

They are mid

[vagrant mountain]

the chloroform scented ones put you right to sleep

[prisma drift]

I just don’t care tbh Nate. Like you’re going for the last 20 minutes while I keep swapping topics and you re ping me

[lavish quiver]

Seems like a whole lot for sitting in your own filth

[prisma drift]

I appreciate the definition of echo chamber tho

[rustic garnet]

Doesn't seem the case!

[solid haven]

why shower? do like they did it in the past...just use tons of powder / perfume :P

[prisma drift]

Notice how I stopped pinging you tho?

And went back to idleon talk

[rustic garnet]

Does it matter if you ping or not?

[prisma drift]

I wasn’t talking to you at all and you re pinged me lol

[rustic garnet]

riiight

[prisma drift]

My last message to you was 3:10

[lavish quiver]

What is happening

[prisma drift]

You replied like 4 minutes later xD

[vagrant mountain]

nate keeps trying to turn this channel into doot discussion

[pure meadow]

idleon efficency safe to use and trustworthy?

[rustic garnet]

4 minutes.. isn't very long heh

[rustic garnet]

the link above is, yes

[prisma drift]

It is when that was the topic end

[lavish quiver]

very subjective

[solid haven]

Doot is loved by everyone who owns one, no?

[rustic garnet]

that's what she said?

[vagrant mountain]

yes we love doot

[rustic garnet]

A truer statement hasn't been said

[zinc torrent]

What level ob krunk to farm for the teeth?

[opaque sun]

if you can reach kattle, you can farm its teeth

People just do nightmare to farm the trophy (cape) and you get more than enough teeth while doing that

[zinc torrent]

Cavity too?

[opaque sun]

If you want the chaos teeth, obviously you need to do on chaos+

but nightmare runs farming for cape gets you waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than enough teeth and cavity for the family to make 500 sets of div armor

[zinc torrent]

Well I have 3,7k keys to burn. Guess ill do highest difficulty the

Tho he takes a while.

[opaque sun]

Remember to start the trophy quest on the guy doing the boss kills

The cape needs to drop on the guy that is doing the trophy quest, or else you just wasted your luck

[zinc torrent]

A minute or two of afk slapping on dk.
This boss is really..... boring

[opaque sun]

At least it doesnt have obnoxious shields like efaunt

[bold quiver]

wish it had one shoting mechanics

[opaque sun]

well it does

[zinc torrent]

Its just a damage sponge really.

[opaque sun]

Just get enough damage to trigger the one shot requirement

[zinc torrent]

Can't imagine ppl one shooting him on vman

[lilac granite]

is there a point to leveling sodium atom past level 1?

[granite grove]

which atom specifically?

[bold quiver]

most of them are good yes

[lilac granite]

i said it in my head, but didnt type it 😄

[bold quiver]

what does that do

[zinc torrent]

Is that the newest one?

[lilac granite]

yep

[bold quiver]

want that at least to lvl 5

[lilac granite]

i put a level into it, but the nexct level is 130k which im not sure i can be bothered spending, what will the 2nd level do?

[bold quiver]

safepoint every 5 levels

just lvl accordingly

[zinc torrent]

So lvl2-4 don't change the safe point?

[lilac granite]

thats what im trying to figure out 😛

[glad crow]

yes it does.... level 1 is 5, 2 is 10, 3 is 15, 4 is 20

[lilac granite]

ah okay, i get it now

[zinc torrent]

So uh. Why does it have 20 levels

[bold quiver]

no one knows

[lilac granite]

level 100 snail

[glad crow]

consistency

every atom is up to 20, so prob just because of that

[bold quiver]

yeah prob

then he wouldnt have to change the formula for the collider

[zinc torrent]

Feels lazy. Whatever

[bold quiver]

not lazy. If he adds more multipliers to superbits we will need snail getting above lvl 25, then he would have to rewrite everything again

[glad crow]

over halfway 😄

[zinc torrent]

Assuming snail is coded to go beyond 25

[lilac granite]

how is it so expensive at level 12?

[bold quiver]

yeah but then its just changing 1 number, which is the exponential multiplier of the equation

[lavish quiver]

Thats a vial

[glad crow]

every vial is 1b at 12?

[bold quiver]

imagine if it didnt do anything :[ cuz u are already capped on stamp reduction

[lilac granite]

ah true 🙂

[zinc torrent]

Vial mastery is vial mastery

[rose bridge]

Hi guys, bit of a noob question - Do you have to kill troll on each character to get them to W5?

[bold quiver]

i was sad!

[glad crow]

prob doesnt.... i think i read somewhere that stamp cost redox was capped, but it still gives the rift bonus when 13

[bold quiver]

no. Same drill as every other world, only 1

[zinc torrent]

Is there a way to not become insane going for the 100m stack in chest?

[rose bridge]

Hmm, thats strange, got my DK to w5 and its not unlocked for anyone else

[glad crow]

can you clarify what you mean?

[zinc torrent]

For the w5 achievement of worm drops

[bold quiver]

wait till u are stronger haha

[bold quiver]

just cloudsave

[glad crow]

that one is pretty easy

[zinc torrent]

Stacks dont say their exact amount above 10m

[lilac granite]

take out in 1 or 10mil stacks

[bold quiver]

u can carry in your bag and creater another slot...

[glad crow]

you can now

[lilac granite]

make a second pile, the bigger pile as second

dump all with storage to chest

[zinc torrent]

I think you overestimate my carry cap

[lilac granite]

repeat until you count out 100m

[weary oracle]

Who's the best for w1 dungeon? DK?

[glad crow]

whats you carry cap?

[weary oracle]

how does vman fit in dungeons these days?

[bold quiver]

just create another slot before that one

then deposit all, it will go to 1st slot

[zinc torrent]

I know I know. And then? I have something around 100m but don't know how much to take out to go to exactly 100.

[bold quiver]

math

u can do it. its addition subtratction math

[lilac granite]

you can keep taking out a certain amount and halving if it goes over

[zinc torrent]

Math with double unknown?

I asked how to do it without going insane :^)

[bold quiver]

U have the number of slots , u have your capacity per stack value, u have the goal to achieve............ u can do it

[zinc torrent]

IE doesn't show high amounts either right?

[lilac granite]

probably could have done it by now, if you just followed the first thing people said

[bold quiver]

he is trying to math it out (sorry for the teasing)

[random lake]

whats the max possible dr currently

realistically

[glad crow]

that why you use the split stack

then you just type 100000000 and then put it all into one stack

its much more easy than you think

[glad crow]

above 17

[random lake]

fr??

[bold quiver]

dont know the MAX but mine is 17,25. I can see myself pushing it to 17,85 on vman, but i can get it to 18 if i farm more stacks

[random lake]

is there a breakdown?

[glad crow]

like this

[random lake]

im at 13.1

[bold quiver]

the new gear helps a lot on DR

[random lake]

and i dont know where im missing a whopping 4

[glad crow]

look at the old max dr chart and then just think about the new trophy

[random lake]

new trophy?

[glad crow]

the divine trophy i think its called

[random lake]

hows taht unlocked

[bold quiver]

where can i see that chart

[sick sentinel]

18+ is possible

[bold quiver]

easily kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[glad crow]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1094256172296577125

[rose bridge]

Thank you!

[sweet mirage]

I remembered when pen palls came out, people were saying that it's impossible to get max bonus, have anyone got it? Any tips for getting 225 score?

[random lake]

ohh, scarf and cape, man im acc crying

[glad crow]

you need to do the first two task, and need you need to get the wings to drop on a character, that has done the first 2 task, and after you have gotten the wings too drop on that character, equip the scarf and profit

[bold quiver]

easy to do on mobile

[random lake]

i havent gotten either

[sweet mirage]

I'm trying on mobile, but aroudn 170 it's almost impossible for me

[bold quiver]

pen palls = trapping minigame right?

[sweet mirage]

yes

[bold quiver]

yeah gotta practice more !

[glad crow]

btw @zinc torrent did you get the achivement?

[zinc torrent]

Your advice was semi helpful.
I thought about it myself, withdrew stacks of 20m which i could carry and deposited that. Repeat 5 times.

[glad crow]

noice

[bold quiver]

niceee

[zinc torrent]

Got the achievement and also the points to unlock staff.
I wish i hadn't spent the points on the stat thing so i could have glove recipe too already

[glad crow]

btw it and ie can be very useful to finding out how much you can carry

[bold quiver]

and if u dont have acess to IE u can use stamp guy/anvil

[glad crow]

i did that too.... the 14 points was bad

[bold quiver]

fill bag then check there the number

[zinc torrent]

But ill be hardstuck on the cattle task 10 anyways since vman will not be able to kill nightmare in ages. Dk takes 5 minutes and he can auto clear the healers.

[bold quiver]

as long as u have 10B dmg u can do it

its worth wasting 1-2h there or more, the trophy is isane

[glad crow]

yes, i did it just too get the scarf recipe

that thing is an absolute best

[zinc torrent]

Any other clas auto clears the moles but vman has no reliable ranged clear.

[glad crow]

its prob the second most powerfull single item (after trophy)

[bold quiver]

indeed. And the obols are 10/10 also

[glad crow]

yes

[zinc torrent]

What does it give again? Super high damage and respawn?

[bold quiver]

i stil need 2 scarf to finishg a set for everyone

[opaque sun]

All afk gain and respawn

[zinc torrent]

Oh thats even better

More all afk than persephone?

[opaque sun]

It makes deathly cluster and persephone obsolete

[glad crow]

its basicly (almost) 45% afkgain for stuff like gmush

wich can be doubled with vhips

[zinc torrent]

Holy sissy hypno. That is one hell of an item. Power creep is going into overdribe

[opaque sun]

also due to 35 stat and 11 slots, its better damage than chiz scarf

[glad crow]

yeah

welp, for pure damage, the tooth is prob still better

but for anything other than active, the scarf is BiS

[opaque sun]

tooth isnt that much better honestly unless you manage to pull off 5 successful mystery stones hitting all stat % to 10%

The base stat of 35 and stone slots effectively gives more stats than 5% stats

[glad crow]

i guess that you need some insane base stats for it to be better than 35+ 11 slots

ye

[opaque sun]

But somewhere in the world 10% mystery stoned tooth will exist

[glad crow]

and that would be very

[zinc torrent]

Might as well win the lottery then

[opaque sun]

Just need to roll 4% 5 times

[glad crow]

but that also means, that some very very unlucky guy could end up with a 0% tooth

[zinc torrent]

0,04^5 aint looking good Matr

[glad crow]

good chances 😄

[lilac granite]

anyone done red malt 1000m vial?

[sick sentinel]

Theres no way anyone has

[opaque sun]

pancake and other refinery enthusiasts may reach there soon

Like when it becomes 20 rank ups a day

[lilac granite]

someone mentioned in thread yesterday they were levelling red malt twice a day, i figure there might be people doing way more than twice a day

yeh exactly

[glad crow]

i should prob do something about this

[sick sentinel]

That only happened recently, not enough time to do it yet

[zinc torrent]

Damn. Even at thwt speed its 500 days with no other salt prod

[opaque sun]

Red salt rank speed snowballs, which also means squire damage talent has become one of the best scaling damage talent

[glad crow]

yeah, when you do 20 ranks up a day, that quickly becomes 22 a day, wich quicly becomes 24 a day.... and so on and so on

[lilac granite]

my red is speeding up now, but its still like a week, half a week with elephant proccing it

[bold quiver]

rly? thought it would have pretty heavy diminishing returns like all the othrs

[brittle dagger]

is this worth buying

[twilit goblet]

is king doot and nightmare chizoar worth 5 starring with cardifier? im only on rift 21 rn, king doot is only 8 cards away from 4*. Or should i save it for chaotic troll

[dreamy rapids]

Yes

[brittle dagger]

"Underneath each log lies either a star, which will give you instant garden growth, or death, which will end your career as a log flipper."

it sounds kinda lukewarm tho

[glad crow]

when it reaches level 20, the amount needed for level up gets capped at 1m, but the amount of salt per cycle keeps getting bigger, therefore it gets faster and faster

[bold quiver]

i know but if the talent equation isnt something exponential or linear, higher u get lower your dmg increase D:

[dreamy rapids]

It's a mini game that gives bonus gaming time

[brittle dagger]

wait holy shit thats insane

[bold quiver]

but i guess i see your point. His talent scale to infinite while others are limited by vial/stamp

[brittle dagger]

youre so right omg

thats nuts lol

I just got 22 hr of progress from it

[opaque sun]

Lava made that refinery damage talent when salt ranks were effectively capped

It hasnt been updated since then

[brittle dagger]

I dont think its 22hr of progress, it was more like 8? I think that 22 hr means the cd right?

[opaque sun]

And only it wasnt until recently refinery speed and everything started to snowball

[ocean fox]

What's the biggest boost to sampling resources(logs specifically) after maxing all cards and the tool

[dreamy rapids]

Sampling has a cap

But the biggest boost is the curse

[brittle dagger]

is this the log cooldown?

[dreamy rapids]

Yes

[glad crow]

oh okay sry, i thought you meant the salt level itself

[dreamy rapids]

22 hours

[brittle dagger]

ty

[ocean fox]

What's the cap? And what curse?

[dreamy rapids]

90%

[ocean fox]

Ohh

Yeah I know about the 90 percent and royal sampler I reached 90 on that already

[glad crow]

yyyyy clean 3k 😄

[ocean fox]

I meant the raw resource per hour just trying to figure out how to get that higher to get higher samples since I'm only at the ten million when I see people with hundreds of million

[bold quiver]

and cooking!!!

[glad crow]

oh i see that is the old chart

does anyopne have the new chart

[opaque sun]

With doot in the middle

[glad crow]

ye

[dreamy rapids]

At this point I can't pay for anything in alchemy and the upgrades are very minimal

[glad crow]

see.... you are now at this stage

[signal osprey]

At no point in the game is alchemy not the answer

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[glad crow]

which means that you need to follow this arrow

[bold quiver]

or the path below

[glad crow]

but look at that last arrow

[dreamy rapids]

Sitting on 120B damage and it is not enough

[glad crow]

exactly

[signal osprey]

Biggest damage boost in the game is alchemy

[glad crow]

im at this, and this is

[dreamy rapids]

How big the 1B skull is?

[signal osprey]

Eclipse skulls are a decent boost but alch is bigger overall

[glad crow]

this boi is huge

[dreamy rapids]

I also green stacked every mob drop and every skill item

[signal osprey]

Your main stat bubbles and then the base damage bubbles are what you scale to get trillions of damage

[glad crow]

im getting pretty close too 2 goals at the same time

[dreamy rapids]

How did you get it to such a high level?

[signal osprey]

Just playing active bubo. CC makes liquid then the liquid makes number big

[dreamy rapids]

Bubo

[runic girder]

Shown in the same message

[dreamy rapids]

It has been a while since I used Bubo

[signal osprey]

Trying to get this stupid kruk trophy has gotten my DK to actually pass my bubo in level

[glad crow]

i dont even have that many kills on tremors

[runic girder]

Can you get lvl 200 talents?

[dreamy rapids]

Sure you don't

220

[runic girder]

Then it might be time to revisit him

[dreamy rapids]

Yes I can get 3 sec

[weary oracle]

Is there a tier list for rings?

[pulsar timber]

I've been grinding greenstacks on sorcerer so long I've forgotten what it's like to active other classes

[runic girder]

Opal > the rest

[dreamy rapids]

Emperor's ring is the best

[glad crow]

serrated rex ring and opals is best

[dreamy rapids]

Pretty easy to get on happy hour

[glad crow]

(world rings for vman speedruns)

[dreamy rapids]

Word ring?

[glad crow]

fixed it

[weary oracle]

cool thanks

[dreamy rapids]

Aren't those kinda worthless?

[glad crow]

they are BiS for vman speedruns

[signal osprey]

These are the best rings in the game for getting high kph in their specific worlds

By a lot too. Its not even close

[dreamy rapids]

Last I check anything that doesn't increase multi kill per tier is kinda ass

[bold quiver]

i need 1 more. Maybe with 2 i can reach last mob w4 for vial

[crisp silo]

This is multi to the kph

[glad crow]

no rings does that+

[crisp silo]

Right?

[glad crow]

also multi kill per tiers < mob respawn

[bold quiver]

yeah and just remember that multikill > mob respawn for speedrun max score

[glad crow]

thats true ye

[signal osprey]

Swapped one opal for one world ring

Nothing else changed

[crisp silo]

Holy

[bold quiver]

doesnt change your samples also, i tested yesterday

[crisp silo]

3m kph more

[signal osprey]

Thats on cans btw

[crisp silo]

Huh it dont change samples?

[dreamy rapids]

Damn

[twilit bear]

270% afk rate wtf

[signal osprey]

Imagine if I had doot

Would be 350%

[glad crow]

dootless gang rise up 🫡

[bold quiver]

u can have smit doot! just swap everyone to goat

[crisp silo]

How does one have >200% im barely reaching 190

[glad crow]

you have the scarf or not?

[dreamy rapids]

Maybe this week

[crisp silo]

Wait no i am reaching 194

[glad crow]

heh.... amateurs

[dreamy rapids]

Based

[crisp silo]

True gamin

Can it get to 0?

[glad crow]

dont think so

can check

[crisp silo]

See if we can get rounding to 0

[tawdry moat]

why i have about 3mil maxDmg in all worlds and stuff but in world 5 im just on 1.3 mil maxDmg? activ Divine Knight....

[glad crow]

nope

[crisp silo]

Accuracy talent

The squire dmg skill

[glad crow]

it doesnt go under 1% (unless in world hub ofc)

[crisp silo]

Booo

[tawdry moat]

oh i forgot about that.. shit...

[mighty galleon]

whats the fastest way to farm hampters ?

[bold quiver]

afk claims 9 characters + 1 active

[crisp silo]

Es active

[signal osprey]

Think doot might actually get me to 20m

[bold quiver]

dear lord what is that dmg. 14T

[crisp silo]

Dear lord

[signal osprey]

Thats kinda low tbh. Most people around my progress in end game would have like twice that

[bold quiver]

i see

[signal osprey]

I've never put much effort into damage

[crisp silo]

Sum ting wong

[signal osprey]

I've always been a sampling guy

[bold quiver]

indeed, there isnt that much reason to skyrockted dmg

[crisp silo]

Hehe big mumber

[bold quiver]

what is your log sample?

[glad crow]

is that on sb or es?

[signal osprey]

SB

[bold quiver]

thats actualy kinda low from what i expected

[glad crow]

so its prob even higher on es

[signal osprey]

Thats also old

I havent sampled in a couple months

[crisp silo]

Oh cool, im only 1/3 your log sample

[bold quiver]

oh i see. Makes sense then

[signal osprey]

I get 1.5b probably if I sample now

[crisp silo]

Oh cool im boutta get my hopes destroyed

[bold quiver]

cuz im almost at 900M and our alchemy dif is monumental

[crisp silo]

It is time to resample mista contract

The sample gods call for it

[signal osprey]

I did say I was a sampling enthusiast

And I'm gonna give it a couple more weeks before I sample

[crisp silo]

Hope for the doot eh

[signal osprey]

Working on some last minute bubbles to 95% effect and I'd like to get more fluoride to push for meals

Not counting on a doot but that would be welcome too lol

Also I figure W5 is almost done with development so I'm planning to wait for the last patch or two incase they give a sampling bonus

[bold quiver]

u can sample as if u had doot without doot tho '.'

[signal osprey]

Then just take a big sample and sit on it during the W6 dev time

[bold quiver]

wouldnt change anything as far as i know

[signal osprey]

Yeah it would

[bold quiver]

how?

[crisp silo]

Dont think lava would increase sample rate

[signal osprey]

1. I would have to sample over two weeks

[oak tartan]

Um, why is my 100% offering for the shrine gone? Just noticed it right now. Did the patch wipe it?

[signal osprey]

2. I dont get arctis talent levels on everyone

Only ES

[crisp silo]

You can uhhh unlink twice now in 1 week

Oh wait

[bold quiver]

small dif

[crisp silo]

U most likely hqve 2 es

[signal osprey]

Yeah and to mimic a doot sample you would want 1 snake 9 goats so even with 2 unlinks a week you cant do that in 1 week

[bold quiver]

i would still swap everyone to goat while sampling for the afk

[bold quiver]

oh yeah it would take 2 weeks

[signal osprey]

I'm gonna do it on a weekly reset using all 4 resets

[bold quiver]

but the values would only difer the artic on bubo and warriors effectively for samples, cuz they cant get that boost from artic

[bold quiver]

huge

[signal osprey]

Week 1 Reset 1: 3 mages snake/rest goat
Week 1 Reset 2: 3 warriors snake/rest goat
Week 2 Reset 1: 4th warrior vman and SB snake/rest goat
Week 2 Reset 2: Normal god setup

That way you get nearly optimal afk gains on everyone but BM while doing all samples in 1 session

[zinc torrent]

Still a shame he chose to implement doot. Punishing people who dont have him so they gotta do this.
But that was probably already discussed to death

[signal osprey]

I cba to do more than that

[bold quiver]

imagine if he decided to implement premium items that can only be obtained with real money that gave a ton of afk gains + drop rate that cant be mimicked from anywhere else in the game.. He wouldnt right?

[signal osprey]

I get what you're saying but lets not pretend that doot isnt those things but way more

[bold quiver]

While even doot give a good speed for progression, it can be mimic as much as u want. Like sampling with everyone on goat + 1 snake

[signal osprey]

All the money exclusive afk items combined give less than doot does to a normal god setup

[bold quiver]

To me the bigggest mistake on doot is it unlocking all gods on W5. Thats the worse

[signal osprey]

Not counting all the other shit he does too

[bold quiver]

U should still have to unlock each god to have its effect, like bubbles

that would be the most balanced thing to do

[signal osprey]

The biggest mistake was including omni

10x omni on everyone single handedly makes it impossible to compete with

[steel rose]

I got a symbol in the bottom left of my Storage, its a green M with a 10 above it, what does it mean?

[zinc torrent]

Would be great if there was some gameplay/time intensive way to get the bonus f2p. But that doesn't pay.

[bold quiver]

yeah its good. I remember when i was using 9 omni 1 purmep for a long time. Helped me a lot

[signal osprey]

Yeah and thats okay because the trade off is less prints because no harriep

[bold quiver]

yeah

[signal osprey]

Doot ignores that though so you print as much as me but you also average 40 extra 3D print hours per day from omni

[bold quiver]

that was my logic.

[sick sentinel]

greenstack, lab dmg thing

[reef kernel]

How many items in storage are over 10 mill, it's for a lab bonus

[zinc torrent]

How are the community leaderboards managed? Is there a split between doot/nodoot?

[sick sentinel]

there are none now

[steel rose]

Ah thanks a lot ^^

[bold quiver]

its 4h of each area proc per day with omni right? on average

[signal osprey]

Yeah

So doot havers get 64 hours of prints a day

Without giving up any harrieps

[frigid acorn]

and several more times from omni

[bold quiver]

The dif is not that absurd on omni solo with doot vs without. Cuz considering both have the same samples (cuz u can do the weekly setup for max results, only missing artic and some small afk gains), u would run a setup of 6 harieph + 4 omni (+2 omni from double link, so 6) on a no doot account. So x6 prints + 6 omni guaranteed. With doot u are keeping the x6 but adding extra 4 omni procs, which is 16H everyday extra of 3d

[zinc torrent]

How much afk gain is doot with ~80 div average?

[bold quiver]

Talking about prints only, not other obvious benefits

[limber mason]

Should I get golden sprinkler or chest slug?

[bold quiver]

i get this without P2W gear

[frigid acorn]

1 sprinkler for sure

[bold quiver]

but thats with card doublers, chips doublers, etc.

[limber mason]

got 2 sprinklers and 2 slugs

[bold quiver]

but its your goat afk gains vs 10

[zinc torrent]

I was talking how Much is just doot. So 30 snek + how much from goat?

[bold quiver]

37% for me apparently

[signal osprey]

Between 30-80% for doot