lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[bold quiver]

yes, goharut

[kind geyser]

So, does it work like that ?

[bold quiver]

like that what? '.'

[snow hamlet]

no

you have to actually be in lab for that to work

[bold quiver]

it works as its intended to work

its written on god's description

[kind geyser]

So for it to count as being on the altar, u have to actually be on the lab, not just count as being on the lab

[olive kestrel]

if youre in the lab it counts as you being in the lab and divinity, if you aren't in lab then it allows you to activate all of the bonuses without putting anyone there

[bold quiver]

yeah artic is only lab effect, not being at lab

[gray thicket]

1 more kill

What do I level up after that?

[kind geyser]

I have 9 guys on altar ATM and my BB it's stacking some chows, I reckon I'll aim for lvl 40 on all chars divinity wise

[loud isle]

Get library to 200+ is a pain

[bold quiver]

nicee

[loud isle]

Waiting on the ancient artefact to get me +50

[little harbor]

so i just did CC on my bubo. now 40k seconds (~11 hours?) until refresh. keep playing him active, or move to someone else?

[crisp silo]

see this is where the tent magic happens

[olive kestrel]

keep active, tentacle eye reduces the cooldown of it

[loud isle]

I hadn’t considered that 😮

[kind geyser]

Damn u almost got 300

[crisp silo]

i have possibly some of the worst screenshotting skills in the world

[little harbor]

oh wow, mines only 175 but already down to 39k seconds.

[loud isle]

But you took the time to take them and that’s all we need ❤️

[snow hamlet]

If I could get the eldritch sailing artifact, I could hit 300

[crisp silo]

i could i just need like 60 more points in the +lvl skill

nothing chnages at 300, its still 3s

[kind geyser]

I feel like I don't have enough stats for rifts yet

So elderich artefacts are just a dream

[crisp silo]

all g thats late game stuff

[little harbor]

isnt it a fraction and just rounds on the tooltip?

[crisp silo]

uhhh i think it is exactly 75% and 3 s

cause wiki

[kind geyser]

I got some of the rifts unlocked tho, up to the 6th

[crisp silo]

and this goofy ahh skill only goes up in time every 200 lvls

[kind geyser]

Hehe

No more collecting traps

[little harbor]

so where should i activly play bubo? im at the jellyfish in w4 since i cant one shot the w5 mobs where im at (lava lamps). is there a map in w5 to use? id rather get those statues and the extra xp if possible.

[vestal delta]

do you think it's worth it to delay my rift for X days to superchow it?

without levelling the hp up to insane numbers

[crisp silo]

once superchowed it dont need to do agn

so prob

how much kph?

[sick sentinel]

oj's is good, aura should kill most

whats ur dmg looking like

[vestal delta]

like 650k

[crisp silo]

uhhhhh

thats gonna be more than a few days

[kind geyser]

Can't u candy ur way to it ?

[vestal delta]

yeah it's ganna be a hot minute 😂
can't candy rift

[crisp silo]

no candy rift

[kind geyser]

Bummer

[crisp silo]

better now than never i guess

so go for it if u aight with the down time

[vestal delta]

alright, time to lock good ol zerker in purgatory 🥲
goodbye cooking progress

i think you're right though, better now than later...future me will be thankful probably

[crisp silo]

current me is suffering

[kind geyser]

Is there a way to power lvl lab ?

[crisp silo]

4B mob hp

it only gets worse

[kind geyser]

Curses are a dangerous thing

[crisp silo]

im only at like rift 31 smth

[vestal delta]

right, doing it now at rift 17 sounds infinitely better than that 😂

[kind geyser]

Or does it not work on rift mobs ?

[crisp silo]

it does

i take them off

i dont even use em

GT my homie does it all

and i dont need dr

[vestal delta]

is there a tracker somewhere for rift mob kills? or do I just have to calculate it

[old portal]

https://zockie.idleonefficiency.com
can someone check and help me what to update? havent played for 3months now i want to know what to do to catch up

[kind geyser]

What's the best setup for foraging?

[sick sentinel]

spice setup?

[kind geyser]

Yeah

[sick sentinel]

!guide is fine

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[crisp silo]

do chiz quest on more ppl
alch looks fine
cook some 1 sec dishes
maybe get some ez eldritch, like the island 1 relics
get the squire his elite class
redo your vman samples, no way they are this low
could do some easy DN
finish buying all the anvil points

u also missing some slab stuff

quite a bit of craftable hats, very easy

all in all, just some cleanup, you are still doing quite well

[little harbor]

Wow, now do me! https://zmakqo.idleonefficiency.com

I took a ~300 day break, came back 2 weeks ago

[crisp silo]

uhhh alot of highlighted stamps, try doing those
instead of letting nblb hit random bubbles, let it hit anvil/souls/critters/salts
you have some lvl 1 bubbles
you have some 1 min meals to cook
slab is fine, for now
rolll your last 4 vials man

[little harbor]

i have failed the vial for 6 days in a row... sigh

[spare cipher]

if i get you my idleon effiency would you be able to tell me what to do aswell?

[little harbor]

"let it hit" those bubbles, meaning manually level up the rest?

[crisp silo]

pro tip drop more stuff in stacks, like spam a bunch of 1 OJ slice on the floor to get more roll chances

[crisp silo]

yes

im tired me sleep now

[bitter jetty]

Is the troll boss nugged when fighting on a mage

Ive had 4 seperate occasions now where he just stops talking

Spawns no mini games and becomes untargetable

[pulsar cliff]

Is ... he dead?

[little harbor]

thanks for the help!

[pulsar cliff]

Because that's how the troll boss dies lol.

[spare cipher]

so i take that as a no for me :<?

[crisp silo]

im sure someone else will help u in given time

or ask endgame chat

they alwasy more active

[spare cipher]

last time i threw mine in everybody just roasted me

your actualy giving useful advice XD

[crisp silo]

it is a right of passage]

[pulsar cliff]

^

[spare cipher]

ive been here since w3 man

[pulsar cliff]

We roast with love and advise.

[spare cipher]

i just take long inactivity breaks XD

aight bugger it, ill drop my link in a sec (ive hit update yet the site is still showing my older info instead of the updated one)

[sharp wind]

at last, its not a myth anymore...

[spare cipher]

regret https://xheladin.idleonefficiency.com/

(if it says its 3 months old, im sorry i did hit upload like ~5 minutes ago)

[crisp silo]

hohohoho

you will get roastwedd

[spare cipher]

XD, just like last time i guese *note does it say updated today? or updated in april? when i log on it says today, when i check my link it says april

[sharp wind]

needed help for pressing this thing...

[kind geyser]

Jesus

[placid mural]

YES! just got my third kattle neck

[elder osprey]

anyone know or have a doc for softcap on golden foods ?

[placid mural]

honestly i think the cap is just limited to your carry capacity

[bitter jetty]

Nope wasnt dead, I just checked bugg reports

Apparently he bugs if tornado is running while he phase changes

[crisp silo]

@spare cipher

1. claim your keys
2. upgrade your stamps
3. alch bubbles hitting printable stuff
4. drop stuff for vials
5. redsalts are auto refining
6. update your samples, look at 3D printer page
7. lava skulls are wack, i dont even think you get yours in reasonable times
8. you dont even have purmeep
9. brilliant, 0sec meals
10. wth is this slab
11. maybe get elite classes(?)
12. maybe get ancient artifacts from sailing
13. cmon man you are doing eclicpse skull without that many green stacks???????
14. is that 10 spore shirts?????

[pulsar cliff]

Huh, TIL.

[bitter jetty]

I just swapped to my DK and he bugged again, IDK if its because I had a statue running when he swapped

[placid mural]

my golden grilled nomwich keeps going up and i have 80k on my active character right now

[elder osprey]

i know but at some point it dont give so must as befor

[pulsar cliff]

Not sure man, sorry. Been ages since I didn't just one shot him.

[crisp silo]

honestly this acc needs some care, it looks like abuse

and how many keychains do you need

[spare cipher]

XD

[crisp silo]

and the crystallin stamps

[spare cipher]

ok can you confirm for me if its the april version or the now version for me?

[crisp silo]

new

[spare cipher]

as it still shows april for me when i try to check my public

kk

the spore shirts and stamps are me beeing lazy and having more space then i need rn XD

[crisp silo]

my eyes are bleeding

[olive kestrel]

collect keys
kill minibosses with dk
use books
holy cow you need to level stamps get to like 4k total levels
fill empty forge slots with at least something
collect anvils and buy all points through at least w2
get lvl 1 bubbles up to where NBLB can hit them (15 I think?)
dont do sigils until you unlock all bubbles
dont neglect 3d printer
use worship charge and level all skulls as high as you can
follow breeding guide for spice setups
ancient fauxory tusk to make artifacts easier
work on void tools, and chiz/troll for all characters
max out flurbo passives

[crisp silo]

theres forge slots misssing??????

[spare cipher]

there shouldnt be?

[crisp silo]

there is a 2nd page to the forge upgrade tab

[spare cipher]

also, alch bubbles hitting printable stuff, explain?

and what is purrmeep

[crisp silo]

cat god

[spare cipher]

brilliant, 0sec meals

this refers to?

(i know what cat god means, i need to do more divinity, got it)

[olive kestrel]

honestly, just go watch a bunch of GriffyBitTV's IE reviews on youtube, he has some really good info on those and he does them for literally every level of the game so you can find one that is similar to yours and just work on what he talks about

[lavish quiver]

BRUH

[bleak gazelle]

don't let NBLB hit stuff that you can easily print because you can easily upgrade those. let it hit salts/critters/souls

[spare cipher]

im, going to need more then that, NBLB is? XD

[bold quiver]

wow why do u have so many

[crisp silo]

so salts/anvil/souls/critters scale increadibly hard, no way u gonna pay for 1M each upgrade, so u let nblb hit them. Hence you try to manually upgrade your bubbles, which are your ores, mob mats, logs

[olive kestrel]

no bubble left behind, it auto upgrades bubbles at the daily reset each day

lab node

[spare cipher]

ahh that one

right

[sharp wind]

a desperate man

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkk trying to get t6 ? its a pain

when i got all T6 i just saved 15 of the same plant and kept spaming chemicals on 5 spare slots

[spare cipher]

also back to forge, my forge stuff is maxed? i just checked

[crisp silo]

uhh

[sharp wind]

yes, but fury eldritch is still a myth to me

[bold quiver]

indeed, its hard to get. It took me almost a month to get it

[bold quiver]

but getting the bits book on cloud island was worse

[sharp wind]

i even put 18 boats now all for fury

[crisp silo]

forge stuff may be maxed but forge nor full

[spare cipher]

oh

[bold quiver]

yeah i had that setup for almost a month before i got eldrich fury

[spare cipher]

4th page is empty, derp

[bold quiver]

running 9 omniphau kkkkkkkkk

[olive kestrel]

you can honestly get an insane amount of progress literally just from leveling the hell out of stamps and doing cooking for like 30 mins

[sharp wind]

a month... miss those days when in a day i get 1 artifact a day

[crisp silo]

eldritch fury took me 3 days, 1 day for each rarity

[bold quiver]

tks jesus im done with sailing for a while now

[spare cipher]

i am now trying to compile this stuff

and it sounds like i should start with "do your dam instant cooking and stamps"

[lavish quiver]

Same

[crisp silo]

yea cause Vman rewards hella cook speed for total meal lvls

[bold quiver]

dont ping dev dude not nice

[crisp silo]

its been 2 months i cant get past ancient steak

[sharp wind]

oops sorry

[bold quiver]

🫡

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkk sailing being sailing

we all have that pain in the a.. artifact that doesnt drop

[crisp silo]

i had given up, now this stupid mk rock is stuck at ancient as wlel

[placid mural]

its not until i hear conversations like this that i realize how insanely lucky i have been with artifacts

[round elk]

Sometimes I surprise myself by how lazy I can get

[crisp silo]

is that

a 2.9k

sand

sample

[bold quiver]

wouldnt say lucky, thats hardwork! and being a good pirate

[round elk]

it has been there for a year probably xD

[placid mural]

when i hear you say you were stuck on fury for a month, it tells me luck

[bold quiver]

i had to collect eldrich almost twice, cuz mine got whiped on gold event

[crisp silo]

i had a 2.9k iron sample on my vman for 4 months

[bold quiver]

it wasnt that bad for me cuz i already had fury and almost all edlrich before

i just had to get everything back again lol

but i got steak/strilo/socrates insanely fast with 1 boat, so that was lucky

[crisp silo]

gimme

[placid mural]

the only one i got stuck on for any noticable amount of time was the very last artifact i needed which also happened to be the single most useless of them all so ididnt mind

[bold quiver]

hahahhaa indeed

[placid mural]

the daily shiny chance artifact

[round elk]

I got one eldrich in like a month for some reason after gettin fury in 1 day

[spare cipher]

ok, so ive got, way more to work on then i have time to do right now, but ive gotten down the notes XD

hoepfully next time you guys see me post it wont be THAT abysmal

primary focus on fixing up my stamps, cooking and alchemy, then work on, everything else XD

[crisp silo]

they keys, make sure to claim them, others will roast harder

they will decimate you

[spare cipher]

ive gone through so many

without getting wing drops

i think i just gave up XD

but yeah ill try get in the habit of that

its one button click

[crisp silo]

the true test is tio let them accumilate to 10k and then do it

[spare cipher]

couldnt tell you my peak keys, but well i was playing for a long time compared to most trashfire accounts you see

XD

[placid mural]

now that i have them all, i have been going back through from island 1 and on to boost all the speed/loot of all my boats ****

[spare cipher]

but yeah, ty for your time, if you notice anything else let me know XD

[olive kestrel]

just make sure you do some of the more time sensitive things first, like collecting keys, collecting anvil productions, using worship charge stuff like that that is currently not doing anything because its full

[spare cipher]

my anvil products is auto collecting IRC (world 3 arm thing?)

but noted on the rest

*also moving off getting big skulls to unlocking cat god now XD (well trying to)

[placid mural]

i would recommend collecting manually, the auto collector doesnt work as intended

[olive kestrel]

^^

[spare cipher]

define: doesnt work as intended

[placid mural]

only works on 1 character per day

[olive kestrel]

I think it like only collects the character you log in on

[spare cipher]

oh

[green eagle]

close to maxing out a 3rd god's blessing

[zinc torrent]

With trapping should I just use my trapping guy with xp cards to set all my traps?

[green eagle]

if you want exp set exp traps with vman

otherwise use bm to set efficiency traps

to get more critters

[zinc torrent]

Thanks I guess I'm just after the shiny blobfish to upgrade all my traps

[jagged relic]

Any ideas what will be in the next update?

[sick sentinel]

i saw someone say maybe more language stuff

dunno if anything is confirmed by anyone that would actually know

[jagged relic]

Awwww yes can't wait...

[zinc torrent]

maybe on 21th

it will be 3 week since last update

[jagged relic]

I'm annoyed I still don't have doot...I'll never get him

[feral hemlock]

Same. Even spent additional 50$

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/stickergiant-spend-that-money-spending-money-spend-money-gif-18861141

(but don't too)

the only annoying thing to me is that he's going to rotate pets at some point

so folks that don't get all the pets this rotation

will have to wait again

i have dupes of all the rest below ram, so i'll be able to trade some to people at some point

[gilded vault]

No one's gonna trade a dupe doot though

[granite grove]

maybe if for next mythic pet in upcoming rotation

[warped grail]

i wishg you could trade free pets with free pets lol

[gilded vault]

But then... they'll be dootless !

[granite grove]

referring to dupe doots as mentioned above, not their only doot

[regal magnet]

W5 gem shop top tier purchases?

[granite grove]

imo sailing chest max cap (slugs) followed by gaming plant cap (lava sprouts)

tho there should be tierlist somewhere

[regal magnet]

i checked on !gemshop

w5 stuff isnt on there

[granite grove]

then those 2 could do, or sailing mostly since the source to get extra cap is so scarce, plus later on you get so many chests coming at a time so those will be wasted if it goes over cap (even with chest upgrading mechanic to mitigate the loss)

[regal magnet]

so not divinity sparkie ?

[granite grove]

gaming plant cap also helps since more plants can grow simultaneously = more bits

[sick sentinel]

!guide has a list, idk if its good or not

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[regal magnet]

Just got to w5 so no idea what im doing rn xD

[granite grove]

divinity sparkie is nice but it loses value once you got 10 gods, nice to have but not as important as sailing chest cap

well, it still helps if pushing god ranks or rushing early w5, but you can just wait out bit more while you active with some char to get stuff meanwhile if to save gems

[regal magnet]

ok thank you

[tacit tulip]

It's kinda like the lab tubes, good to set you up but not needed after

[regal magnet]

i was told you dont need more than 6 of the boosted ones (3 buys)

[sick sentinel]

they lose their effectiveness since lab has an end rly

you dont stop doing lab, but there comes a point where you dont need bonuses like that anymore

[placid mural]

i wouldnt be suprised if lava expands the lab in w6, i dont think he is going to in w5 though

probably in line with when he goes up to 12 characters

[sick sentinel]

thats what we were hoping for with w5 but ye ya never know

[placid mural]

i think he will need to do 2 more characters to expand the lab simply because of connection lengths

[granite grove]

lava needs to add long term reason to level lab, or buff one with divinity by reducing the god rank req scaling so its viable for ES dmg% talent

[green eagle]

you mean you don't like having to ear Ne24 divinity points to level up that talent?

[granite grove]

too much time for miniscule benefit

[lost depot]

Is it worth it to invest in chart rate on water cauldrons? Seems to provide very little benefit

Charge*

[placid mural]

honestly my suspicion is that "god ranks" will be lavas way of expanding God "like" bonus' to W6 and beyond since there isnt really room for any more divinities the way it is setup currently

[sick sentinel]

for sure, every bit helps

[placid mural]

kind of like how you could already get shiny pets in breeding even though they had no benefit yet

[jagged relic]

I spent 30....it sucks

[gray thicket]

[modern plaza]

maybe add another layer of leveling up divinity gods too

[little harbor]

Kill Mini bosses with DK? Thought you were supposed to kill mini bosses with vman. why DK?

[green eagle]

you kill with DK because you kill the other mobs first to charge orbb

[olive kestrel]

dk can stack orb in the zone before you kill the mini boss

[green eagle]

then you kill the mini boss

[little harbor]

oh, got it. thanks.

[olive kestrel]

so you stack to like 2-300 and then kill

[dense turtle]

does the cape actually need to drop on each character -.-

[little harbor]

So do Colo on DK too?

[green eagle]

you haven't been?

[dense turtle]

i got the cape on a char that didnt have the quest.... ffs

thats some bullshit ^^

[tacit tulip]

I have the quest on everyone but...no cape

[sweet mountain]

Do the sailing gold bars have any use other than upgrading boats? Like alchemy? (I think there was a god that used those bars, but I maxed him out already).

[sick sentinel]

artifact for dmg based on how much you have, gods, and boats

[karmic sun]

https://i.imgur.com/7onLh1J.png
why is this only 2%

[sweet mountain]

okay, then there is no need to save. I was always saving some instead of fully upgrading every boat, guess there is no need for that. Just going to keep a few million to buy a good captain if one appears.

[echo crag]

you still have a low amount of meal level that why, it should start to ramp up when you get to like 450 meal level

[karmic sun]

but why does it say 0.66% per total level when it's something else

[hollow wasp]

aww i forgot i was farming, where my fps xd

[vocal rose]

is there a build quick reference for Vman speedrunning? cards, star signs, etc?

[echo crag]

in your case its 1.0066^148, that how the formula work

[karmic sun]

ohh, okay thank you

[sweet mountain]

I still think its funny that it's a power of the meals and the graph shows a linear relation and says multi >.<

[echo crag]

lava palyed with that formula at some point and i dont think he changed the wording at all for it

[sweet mountain]

Actually, I think it was supposed to be linear, but the messed something at the code, did as non-linear, and simply said "ah fuck it, the bonus is not that game breaking...". I remember something like that in the notes after a few days that Vman came out.

[placid mural]

well i thank him for the 1.2 trillion x cooking speed

[echo crag]

lava logic

did some math this morning and that thing can reach like 265Q% with max book, reift slug and +10 from es

[gentle inlet]

I hate hampter

[gilded vault]

He hates you too !

[sweet mountain]

I don't think es family bonus applies to that. Mine is at 210 and I had to use a 210 lvl book.

[echo crag]

still bring it in the Q% realm

[sweet mountain]

What should I do with my SB? His dmg is too low to push the next portal (just got him to the W5 boss map). I can't push the next level of the rift as well. Should I just leave him catching bugs? Feels such a waste.

[echo crag]

sb should murder gmush

[placid mural]

damn, leveling anything after leveling an ES or a DK is soooooo slow

[sweet mountain]

Any particular reason?

[placid mural]

nothing better for him to do

and decent kills per hour

[echo crag]

you want the kills to speed up your forge, as well as more money from lab node

[brazen hound]

sometimes I get artifact chance on chests, sometimes not. What does that depend on? if captain has artifact find chance or not?

[echo crag]

do you have island where you got all the max lvl artefact

[sweet mountain]

Well. If you are blind like me, sometimes you mistake a 0.06% as 0.00%

[brazen hound]

yes, lots of islands where I found the "normal" artifacts, but not all ancients. why?

most islands look like this

[echo crag]

any that got all ancients ?

[brazen hound]

no

[echo crag]

then i got nothing

[brazen hound]

ok thanks

do I need to kick all captains that lack %chance find artifact?

or its not that

[echo crag]

not that

[sweet mountain]

Need, no... but it would be nice to slowly replace the ones that dont have double artifact chance or double speed. At least that's what I do.

[brazen hound]

yea this will be my long term plan. and when I find all artifacts, replace them again with captains with only speed and loot chance

Im just trying to understand why some chests have 0% artifact chance, others have 2.5% chance

[lunar edge]

I think thats the general goal. Getting there takes a bit of wibbling and wobbling between getting boat currency and trying for artifacts.

I don't think artifacts have the same find chance. (?)

[viral turret]

How much does chemical move stuff forward in time

??

[sweet mountain]

level squared i think

not sure though

[little harbor]

active or passive?

[sweet mountain]

passive. I'm farming obol frags actively on my DK

[echo crag]

passive, got better stuff to do active

[little harbor]

what should i be doing actively? my furthest guy is at lava lamps in w5

[fading dust]

Whats the priority for picking plants in gaming?

[tacit tulip]

A 0% chance on a chest would suggest the island you've sent them to has no remaining artifact

[sick sentinel]

prob to get to the last plant unlock so pick as often as you can

[tacit tulip]

However it would display no chance at all, not 0%

[sick sentinel]

unless you mean between the dif types of plants, then do like cactus first then pick plants

[fading dust]

Oh I meant like when they are on my screen I would pick cactus > Voraci > chemical > etc.

Yea

Didn't know the optimal way to pick them or let them grow

[sick sentinel]

so you have chem?

[fading dust]

Yup!

[sick sentinel]

and bog log

[brazen hound]

sure, I have islands where I have no more artifacts to discover. so 0% to discover a new artifact. but what about ancient ones? if it shows 0% artifact discovery I cant get the ancient ones from that island?

[fading dust]

Yea

[sick sentinel]

i normally clear board of normal plants, then voraci/sprinkler, cactus

[wispy sapphire]

does anyone know why my ES would have like 5x more damage than my BB or DK?
they are equalish levels and have almost identical tiered armor/weapons

[fading dust]

Damn I just realized chem and bog log should be pretty nutty. Cause you press bog log - chem - bog log

[sick sentinel]

and depending on if im going to for t6 or not, then do bog log

[rotund sand]

Do Construction obols work if I'm not actively on the player?

[sick sentinel]

chem last

[gilded vault]

4th stage is 16h, never picked the earlier stages

[sick sentinel]

bb and dk dont have great dmg compared to es, thats normal

[wispy sapphire]

ah ok thanks

[sick sentinel]

takes a lot more to invest in warriors for dmg, less so for mages

[true obsidian]

for farming 100M kill on deathnote, which way is faster? spread all char into multi maps or all char in 1 map?

[sick sentinel]

all on 1 to get the multikill bonus first

[brazen hound]

u get a bonus for having more people on 1 map?

also, better to have all on 1 map coz u can put down shrines to speed up things

[true obsidian]

start grinding now...it gonna take long long time

[sick sentinel]

no just for getting to the deathnote skull tiers, you get the multikill bonus to that world with each one

so faster to get the bonus with everyone first then move maps

[brazen hound]

gotcha

[sick sentinel]

its only slightly tho

also in w5 you dont need to move shrines

[brazen hound]

thats not a w5 thing? its a lab thing?

so w4?

[sick sentinel]

lab is for world

artifacts is for everwhere

[fathom lagoon]

W5 artifact

[fathom lagoon]

Is eldritch 300% or 400%?

[brazen hound]

If a shrine is placed within town, instead of in a monster map, it will act as though it is placed in EVERY map in that entire world!

[true obsidian]

200

[sick sentinel]

brother read teh artifact above lol

[true obsidian]

read not that hard

[fathom lagoon]

Yea just in that world. The artifact above makes it so it’s all worlds

[brazen hound]

but thats irrelevant since he works on multikill in one world at a time?

[sick sentinel]

what...

[true obsidian]

nope it not

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah but your shrines can effect anyone else in all other worlds, why would you not want that

[true obsidian]

don't forget when ever you move your shrines, they got reset exp

[brazen hound]

ok

[true obsidian]

why would you want to move it?

[fathom lagoon]

Wylin

Shrines in w4 town while you lab+div and cook

Ez money

[brazen hound]

now Im confused again. How would putting down all shrines in w4 result in more money from lab+div+cook?
I dont see any money shrine

[true obsidian]

i step too deep into this, can't move it :<

[true obsidian]

"ez money" not about money...

[fading cape]

Leaving your shrines in W4 is something that happens once you have units in lab and you have the "World Tour" lab enhancement. Before that you need to move your shrines

[sick sentinel]

yeah ez money in this case is just a saying

[brazen hound]

I see. "ez exp" not about exp?

[true obsidian]

nope

that actually about exp :v

[brazen hound]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

my mind cant take anymore

I too noob

[true obsidian]

"ez money" like "easy peasy lemon squeezy" ~~

and i'm sure that not talk about lemon

[brazen hound]

ok understood

but squeezing lemons is hard. have to cut them first. then it squeezes into your eye and ur hands get all sticky

[true obsidian]

how tall are you....i can't think about anyone could squeez lemon into eyes unless they extra short + high table

[fading cape]

Lemon skin is gushy. Like canvas. One tear and rips fast.

However, piece of trivia. "Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy" is a slogan from a lemon juicer that advertised in the 50s.

[true obsidian]

yeah its like our heart, just 1 tear and it rips very fast

[brazen hound]

https://tenor.com/view/lemmon-in-eye-military-lemmon-eye-pain-gif-17400567

this is how I squeeze lemons

[quartz turtle]

i had my frogs at 1.002b yday and now its at 939m.... wth

[true obsidian]

vman issue

just don't farm with vman

but i heard that lava fixed it? i'm not sure

but better not farm with vman

[sly plank]

is it worth farming pens without choco chip? I only have 300 boxes done so far

[quartz turtle]

better add some other gatcha to fix issues 🙂

[true obsidian]

pen always worth to farm

[sly plank]

debating between just continuing at oranges with my bubo to try to finish getting all my bubbles or change it up and try to get some pens

[true obsidian]

problem only up when you use speed run, so if you farm with vman, make sure not use speed run

[true obsidian]

how your bubbles?

[sly plank]

not very far along

[true obsidian]

yeah...stick with your bubbles

[sly plank]

[fading cape]

mmmm bubbles

[true obsidian]

one more week until 4500...then go to next bubble

[frail mauve]

Excuse but... Wtf

[true obsidian]

that's took several month

[tacit tulip]

right...in theory...my Vman can guarantee a recipe drop in 1k hours...

[frail mauve]

Still impressed

[tacit tulip]

(that's accounting for KPK and lab bonuses)

[frail mauve]

I am lacking atoms sadly at the moment

[true obsidian]

you'll get there in time. I'm just almost done 1 stat, there 2(3) more.

[true obsidian]

try to resample every 2 weeks

[frail mauve]

I do

[true obsidian]

you get much stronger after 2 week due to stamps upgrade and nblb

[placid mural]

Why us 4500 your goal.

?

[true obsidian]

you got 9000+ raw stat with it, and it make you have more than 20k stat, 25k if you have good %all stats

[frail mauve]

Current stats https://renbrian.idleonefficiency.com/ just updated it

[true obsidian]

and i told other to resample every 2 week xD
same on me

[frail mauve]

Not min maxed at all

xD

[fading cape]

Guess I should farm somewhere else for a while

[frail mauve]

I still need em for the quest sadly

[frail mauve]

Ayo how do you have enough stash space for that xD

[fading cape]

I can't get bones or ketchup. Which sucks

[true obsidian]

i'm not that overkill, this is enough

and i even have 1 whole page full of trash xD

sorry, 2 pages xD

[frail mauve]

xd

I am also a fellow loot goblin/hoarder

[lost depot]

I store all the unstackable loot on my 10th toon

[frail mauve]

big brain

[true obsidian]

i might ditch some items soon but those keychains are so good, save it for 11th and 12th char(or maybe more if we have) :<

[frail mauve]

I hope we get to have 2 of each elite class (without buggy bb)

[marble shuttle]

at what DR/orb level should I use DK over ES?

for rare drops

[true obsidian]

[lost depot]

Good question

[true obsidian]

depend on which type of rare drop you talk about?

[lost depot]

I reckon DK is better for crystals, and is better on flat maps

[marble shuttle]

pearler shell

[true obsidian]

then ES

[true obsidian]

this might help

[marble shuttle]

Ah Pearler Shell isn't considered a "rare drop"

[true obsidian]

open your card and see which drop you need

[true obsidian]

its still a rare drop

[marble shuttle]

just not a multikill drop

[frail mauve]

TrollerGod, could you take a lot at my profile to see where i should focus my attention at the moment? I am a bit lost

[marble shuttle]

gtocha gotcha

[true obsidian]

hmm...the answer always stamps and alchemy. Also this

[frail mauve]

Alright

[true obsidian]

you may want to save your atom for this, this is a huge upgrade for cooking speed.

[vocal flower]

30b dmg woth most actives 200+ on Sb should be enough for nm kruk?

[frail mauve]

Didn't know that existed, that would be pretty awesome to have ngl

[true obsidian]

and try to maximize your atom, you have too little atom now

[frail mauve]

Will do

[true obsidian]

i think it will, but it took long time and you have to fast, need to kill those moles before they heal boss

[frail mauve]

Thanks for the help ♥️ i really appreciate it

[gray thicket]

3, I win

[true obsidian]

that multiply very fast, lv1 might be low but every lv you upgrade it, it just double previous lv

[frail mauve]

Mister/miss cool dude over here

[frail mauve]

I see how that could carry my cooking quite hard. Atm i am trying to level breeding since i am lacking in kitchen upgrades

[true obsidian]

this is just lv 5, 1.52K% cooking speed

[gray thicket]

[frail mauve]

That is disgusting

In a good way ofc

[sturdy bear]

my void guys raised my cooking up so much

ill get to the Fluoride more later tho

[sly plank]

I'm new to atoms, what do people print for atoms? oak logs? copper ores?

[noble mesa]

Hi u all
Das someone know when do we get an alite class swape token?

[bold quiver]

so close

[noble mesa]

I need to swich blodeb to dk

[tall notch]

Damn, my crystal mobs are broken. Only getting 2457 xp per kill on my lvl 147 maestro

[fading dust]

Any reason to rush Kattlekruk now other than to be ready for W6 when it comes?

[bold quiver]

his equipment are best in slot + obols

his equipment isnt only bis for active money farming

cuz u lose a little bit of flat stats

[tall notch]

Oke logging out and back in fixed it

For 1 kill. Tf

[stoic verge]

Is max base talent lvl 245?

[fresh plank]

Is it better to collect with 220 eagle eye, or drone? :0

[stoic verge]

Drone

If upgraded

[fresh plank]

Oh tenk

[stoic verge]

Drone also scales off your eagle eye

[fresh plank]

Lv8's prolly good enough

[languid creek]

how do you get enough damage to beat kruk?

[fading dust]

rn I am on chizoar armor - should I rush him 👀

[stoic verge]

@fresh plank

[signal osprey]

Eagle eye just uses your drones stats so it makes no difference which one you use

[fresh plank]

Hooge

[signal osprey]

That extra critter bonus is applied when you place the trap not when you collect from the drone

[stoic verge]

Ah okey

Than no difference

Is 245 max base lvl for talents?

[fresh plank]

Ohh

[bold quiver]

idk '.'

do u have level 425 to wear the equipment

maxed

[fresh plank]

There any point to going beyond 200% crit chance?

[high owl]

what does this mean?

[green eagle]

for the CRED

[fading cape]

Nah. But eventually you'll respec out of overaccurate crit. So keep an eye on that over time

[fresh plank]

Tenk

[runic girder]

So im aware im not gonna get close to this but how long between cc is the endgame bubo

[fading cape]

with PO BOX and all cooldown pluses I have 37K when I initiate. With reduction from farming in oranges, that is 0 in about 20-25 minutes

[runic girder]

I think i might actually get close to that, 39k at start and rn its like 40 minites but im pushing crawlers not citringes

I can probably do 30 minutes on citringes

[fading cape]

I mean so long as your crystal spawn is high, you have choco chip, your tentaceye is over 200, you're using boxing gloves, and your skillbar is in the correct order, the quickest possible threshold is actually the least of your worries once your aura is one shotting. It's probably one of the easier milestones to hit

[runic girder]

Why do crystals matter here?

[bold quiver]

5% dmg increase with TD3 prayer for more dmg, pretty decent i'd say

[fading cape]

Just couple extra spawns to have.

[runic girder]

I see

On 1/58 with choco rn

[ebon dome]

Does polytheism apply to all characters ? the div point boost

[bold quiver]

yes

[runic girder]

Lol

[ebon dome]

damn thats good then

[runic girder]

Someone didnt read the whole question

[bold quiver]

moving to W3 now !

[fading cape]

I imagine once you had like 5 in W1 it picked up pretty fast?

I just started eclipsing earlier this week

[upbeat trout]

do candies speed up gaming plants ?

[coral goblet]

How many kills an hour are you getting while eclipsing

[dry vortex]

Whenever I use my journeyman my game crashes

[fathom lagoon]

What does 1b kills do?

[noble mesa]

20 point and 5%dmg

[sick sentinel]

no only fertilizer

also afk gaming claims from stuff like PO box/bubbles/gods

[zinc plume]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[summer axle]

do i need to buy the star signs that i skipped to get the buff from the infinite starsigns

[sick sentinel]

nope

but if you want to double them with the lab chip you do need to buy them and select them

[echo crag]

does doubling infinite star sign ignore the negative too

[sick sentinel]

i'd imagine so but never checked

my movespeed didnt change when i equiped and unequiped the one dmg one

[echo crag]

ok that good then, lava coded it properly XD

[sick sentinel]

i didnt cloudsave or refresh map tho cause im in CC lol

[fading cape]

the chip itself only doubles the benefits anyway

[summer storm]

does anybody have the construction mastery bonuses from rift ?

[sick sentinel]

they should be on the wiki tho

[summer storm]

doewsnt show on wiki

ty tho

[echo crag]

the list is on the wiki construction page

[sick sentinel]

weird that it doesnt have a link to it on the rift page at least

[stuck pasture]

Sigh… im gonna fall just short I reckon…

[sick sentinel]

candying that is worth

its is back in 2 weeks

[fading cape]

I'm sure if it's great or weird that so many chips appear in 2 week clusters like that

on the one hand it makes the good ones feel really far away. On the other hand it's a nice consolation prize to say, "ok here ya go you were already half way there"

[sturdy bear]

not sure how this works as i have 102m kills on green mushrooms

[fading cape]

are they all on your Barb

[stuck pasture]

Yeah if I candy he’s out of lab and not printing though… I’ll give it a crack

[sick sentinel]

you can check your print timer on toolbox and stick him in there before it procs

[formal grove]

i'm assuming you used Maestro cooldown?

[south orchid]

Best world to farm crystal mob and bubbo or dk? For statues

[sick sentinel]

any, look at the statues that come from each crystal to figure out which ones you want. best maps for dk are:
w1 beans
w2 sandpots (glass shards too)
w3 bloodbones
w4 clammies (pearlers too)
w5 wurms or ojs

[mild heron]

I had decided to redo my samples since I had unlocked Doot and it had been like a month since I had done samples, I tripled my production.

[hollow ledge]

Dk likes beans?

[sick sentinel]

doot do be crazy

[mild heron]

Wouldn’t gigafrogs be better since you also get POP obols?

[sick sentinel]

giga frogs is an option, but never farmed them myself so dunno how it compares

[little harbor]

how many POP obols do you need? arent they optimally just used at silver on the family page?

[sick sentinel]

pretty sure beans has better mob density

[hollow ledge]

Oh so its just because mob density

[sick sentinel]

and the double platform isnt so bad for dk

[hollow ledge]

The map layout doesn't feel good for dk imo but ill try it out

[sick sentinel]

its the best for w1

[hollow ledge]

Oh thats right beans map was changed

I forgor

[fresh plank]

Is the formula for sailing
Boat speed % + Capt speed %?
Or
Boat speed % (Capt speed %)?

[azure spindle]

do the 1 billion kill skulls for deathnote also give higher multikill or is it just the damage?

[sick sentinel]

have at it lol

[fresh plank]

My brain

Well, I see the capt speed and boat speed with at * in between so

I guess it's multiplicasiad idk how to spell

cative

[sick sentinel]

it gives an extra 10 points to deathnote skull as well so ye more mk too

[azure spindle]

geez that's a bit multi jump

[timber summit]

How many of each class do you guys suggest?

[sick sentinel]

this is the usual setup rn, dunno how future classes will impact

[azure spindle]

that'll likely change soon too since w6 seems to be coming soonish

[timber summit]

Thank you, I almost got 9th character so was not so sure

[sick sentinel]

to me it seems like i wouldnt count on w6 until maybe november/december

but ya never know

[azure spindle]

yeah that's fair, hard to tell with the silence

[fresh plank]

Found havin 2 bloodberserker's cool since I get more laddles :0

Then again my construction sux

[sick sentinel]

yeah its either better cons or better cooking

[azure spindle]

basically as long as you don't have 3 of a single elite you're good

[sick sentinel]

supposedly ye

[fresh plank]

Double vman

;D

[sick sentinel]

got jebaited

[fresh plank]

Is that such a bad idea actually? If you cant do a high enough speed run

Can just have like 245 half on 1, and the rest on the other

[prisma beacon]

Has to be done on your 2nd barb

[sick sentinel]

we dont know how it will be in the future, i can see the upsides with 2 vman cause of prints as well

but some mechanics are jank like the 2bb superchow thing

like the hands only get boosted by the second vman and superchow only works for 2nd bb

[azure spindle]

now hear me out, 4 vman and 1 of each elite

[sick sentinel]

lock urself out of future classes i like it

[tall horizon]

Everyone knows 10 vman is the way

[sick sentinel]

my whole life is a lie

[azure spindle]

are the elites going to split into two options again? I feel like they'll just have the one

[sick sentinel]

we dunno, can only speculate

[fresh plank]

Then there's this thing too

[south orchid]

Can we have fishermen statue from w2 crystal farming or just catching?

[sick sentinel]

i think it got switched with defense statue a bit ago

so only catching

[south orchid]

That is too bad thanks

[violet totem]

its kinda lame i have to recraft all the item i already crafted for slab ._.

[azure spindle]

ninja class is actually already released

just no one has found it yet

[grim torrent]

Yeah

[grim torrent]

I'm guessing it's one of the data mined classes that's in the code like deathbringer

[kindred coyote]

is 4/6% all stat really better than 15% total damage?

[grim torrent]

Probably depends how high your stats are

[sick sentinel]

total dmg sources are usually added to a lot of different things

so a lot of the time they end up being small

depends tho

on what the stats or dmg are coming from

and the dmg formula is so convoluted that its hard to find

[wide bolt]

if i upgrade my turkey is my speed going down

[sick sentinel]

probably a little

turkey is fast to get tho

[feral marsh]

yes indeed it will lower your speed at first, because you "waste" power of 10 stacks to upgrade the turkey meal

but you will easily get it even with the vman cooking speed

[barren otter]

how long do you guys think itll take for me to kill nm kattle?

[sick sentinel]

45 min - 1 hr

[barren otter]

hmm honestly not bad

[sick sentinel]

its super active tho

if you dont mind that

[barren otter]

oh i know

i tried it last time at 10b dmg

and it was not happening

[sick sentinel]

ah

good luck 🫡

[rugged thistle]

are the minor link effects always active?

[bleak gazelle]

no, just when linked

[sick sentinel]

only blessings

[kindred coyote]

how much hp does nm kattle have

[sick sentinel]

1Q

[rugged thistle]

does the minor link share with everyone? if i have it active on 1 character

[sick sentinel]

it specifies per god

[elder osprey]

idleon how to i remove the youtube tips in alchemy and so it dont come again ?

[halcyon spoke]

hey guys, has there been a fix for people with 2 maestros?

[pure spindle]

Fix??

I dont think its a bug to be able to have 2, just not really wise

Is there a “best” way to set up links?

I feel mine are more or less rather random other than lab guys

[halcyon spoke]

my 2nd maestro got higher speciality skills but only the 1st ones applies to that right/left hand skill

[pure spindle]

Its only first not just the best one?

Yeah i see where youre coming from then

Thats odd

[halcyon spoke]

been stuck with that problem for so long. 😦 my 1st maestro just sits in the lab, like lvl 250 smth vs other vman almost 400. huge gap in speciality skills too

[royal cliff]

You made it to the end?

[hollow burrow]

What coloseum is best to farm candies on ?

[whole kernel]

Meanwhile I kinda regret leveling a beginner at all. I'm stuck on having to kill chaotic kattlecruk with him for the task and there's no way I can get enough damage into his wimpy punches.

[sick sentinel]

I think w2, but i never personally tried for candy specifically so dont have experience

[green eagle]

you have two?

[vocal rose]

Voidwalker: so I've unlocked around 300 points on my fighting preset. But my Skilling preset has zero. They're independent?

[gleaming prawn]

does anyoen ahve tips for reaching wave 200 in pet arena leg wise? i use looter and as soon as i auto use abilities i laaaaaag

[gleaming prawn]

1 point in speedrun

[halcyon spoke]

yea got it pretty much right away when maestro came. thought you could overlap them a bit or have the other specialize in other ect.. big mistake 😄

[fathom lagoon]

Hey just to confirm for the bubo lab skill that gives bonus xp to those to the left, left counts as where his icon is positioned in the lab board right?

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey did what u advised and candied everything lol . Now only missing w5

[serene solstice]

how do you get the riftwalker nametag in a different color? like this one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403268844384419841/1131345367187857418/image.png

[safe harness]

is there a good time to go back and farm easy resource cards for juiced bonus (just starting w5, mid divinity grind) or do i rip the bandaid off to pump those sample gains?

[signal osprey]

Red name means you're in the same party

[serene solstice]

hmmm

thats somehow dumb

but ty xD

[pure meadow]

what are some of the best cards to double with the chip? DR and NAmarok?

[vocal rose]

VoidWalker: does it make sense to invest in tab 3 left hand of learning as long as you are investing in tab 4 enhancement eclipse?

Before, you would be increasing skill experience gain for other characters, which is sort of bad.
But now, it also applies to the v-man, & even more.
Am I interpreting that correctly?

So although other characters will be gaining levels faster. At least the v-man can also gain levels that much faster, and hopefully stay above them. Right?

[tacit tulip]

you generally wanted it anyway - you don't want your other characters skilling for long periods of time as it is

you just want samples then back to other stuff

the only time you'd not use it was for worship, which is damn near impossible to stay ahead now anyway

(the reason being, rift skill mastery now gives permanent exp buffs for all skills, so you can't tank ES exp anymore)

[barren otter]

so

it didnt actually take me over an hour

i walked out of the boss room and had to go farm 70 keys again...

[sick sentinel]

Lmaoo

[barren otter]

yea...

it did take 25 mins though

not as slow as i thought it was gonna be

[sick sentinel]

Not bad honestly

[tacit tulip]

25 mins, I'd guess 20-30b damage?

[silver moon]

I wish vman had a few more skills

[barren otter]

yea

[sick sentinel]

I think they had 23

[barren otter]

i have all the jab skills at 245

[tacit tulip]

yeah the jab skills are essential for speeding it up

[barren otter]

found a bit more dmg before i went in too

[sick sentinel]

Sweet, now get that scarf recipe!

[barren otter]

you see i have to get 210 more keys

to finish my last 3 chars now lol

[sick sentinel]

Teehee

[barren otter]

but those are all easy autos

damn been dreading doing vman kattle glad thats done

[stuck pasture]

Phew made it just in time 😅

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey what i've used to do deathnote

[lavish cloak]

10k keys

[stuck pasture]

I’ve got the wings but not the amulet 😅

[deep osprey]

@stuck pasture thanks for reminding me

[tacit tulip]

Made my vman a scarf today. He's now exiled to suggma jail until he produces me a glove recipe

I also discovered I have mega chowed exactly 1 mob: tremor wurms lol

[signal osprey]

Purple soul card is passive now btw

[sick sentinel]

Isnt the worship charge passive 😅

[zinc torrent]

I unlocked chem plant

[bold quiver]

i might have forgoten that

[signal osprey]

I'm at 22k keys used. I'll get my wings soon

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/venti-genshin-impact-genshin-venti-genshin-impact-venti-genshin-gif-25350024

[lavish cloak]

you get a neck at least?

[signal osprey]

6 so far

[lavish cloak]

just one here

[signal osprey]

I just want one trophy so I can go back to beans

[lavish cloak]

no beans. only keyfarms.

[barren otter]

im guaranteed the trophy in a few hours

[signal osprey]

Thats what I've been doing. My DK is pulling almost 2k keys a day on his own and its all been on NM kruk

Like 320 runs or so now

Surely by 400

[lavish cloak]

trophy puts my dk at 15 dr in crystalfarm at tremur wurms. time to get 10k more keys for...SB? i don't even know what to do from here. i still need more scarves.

[signal osprey]

[barren otter]

6 necks in 22k keys though thats solid :)

[lavish cloak]

consolation prize

i clicked to go again too soon 3 times, clearing out 3 kills of kattle loot before it all appeared. i assume one of my spare necks was in there.

[barren otter]

your cape too

[vocal rose]

well, i still have skilling cars to collect.

[fading dust]

How does one define skill in a game like Idleon 🤔

[tacit tulip]

Mini game highscores

[zinc torrent]

Do late game players do dungeons? How come killing 4th frog is not very common? I can do it like 30% of the time and not endgame

[sick sentinel]

depends, sometimes ppl ask if anyone does happy hour in these chats

but also you get to a point where you dont really need dungeon gear anymore

[vocal rose]

is Efaunt Helmet the only helm with + Drop Chance? [before i use mine for yum yum completion tokens.]

[sick sentinel]

The new boss helmet has it too

[pine pond]

No Wings yet ?

[signal osprey]

Nope

[pine pond]

Took me 140 bosses to get my first

Then my vman took 2 bosses, DK was like 8

Takes so long

[signal osprey]

I'm at 327

[pine pond]

But finally

[signal osprey]

And thats 327 runs at 16x DR

[pine pond]

Teag

Yeah

That's alot

I paused on keys to grind more deathnote for a few days, then went back to keys

Lele

[signal osprey]

I want to pause the key grind too but going back to bean farming without having the trophy seems like such a waste

[silver moon]

What do you farm beans for?

[signal osprey]

W1 statues, gold noms for the gold food stamp, tree leaves for chopping efficiency, and hot dogs for gold peanuts

[lost beacon]

you forgot "a good time"

[signal osprey]

Beans really is a good time

A lot better than sitting at wurms for 2 weeks with no trophy to show for it

[lost beacon]

Theres a worm trophy?

[signal osprey]

The boss trophy

I'm key farming wurms

[lost beacon]

Ohh so you're the guy in the boat with me!

[lost beacon]

Day 1 - pendant on 3rd chaos attempt and then dry.... Normal, Chaos, Nightmare... all kinds of runs, constant key farming. Got my 2nd pendant today. No wings.

[signal osprey]

Yeah I've been doing close to 2k keys per day for the better part of 2 weeks all into NM kruk

After tonights session I will finish getting the card to 4* without having any from a card pack

[silver moon]

That makes me super excited to get to end game...

lol

[signal osprey]

I am an outlier

This is an example of very bad luck

[opaque sun]

getting cards for chaos gonna be sad as it will most likely mean you are done with wings, which also means done with pendants

[signal osprey]

At this rate I'm gonna be done with pendants before I get my first wing

[vocal rose]

Efaunt **Helmet **- **upgrading **with stones. W5 stones, right? which stat would be the best choice? [assuming you only make 1, and trade it, when needed.]
you're most likely to farm drops on VMan or Divine Knight, right?
Str for DK or
Luk for VMan ?

[opaque sun]

drop chance-wise you will finish pendants first

efaunt helm stone doest matter as there is a better divine helm

[zinc torrent]

How to get moar sailing speed? About halfway through the islands it starts to take days for boats to travel

Should I farm stuff to upgrade boats

[opaque sun]

look in some other skills. Try searching “sailing speed” on idleon insight

[barren otter]

i have 1 & 1 in 15k keys which i guess is still better since i can actually get the trophy... lol

[opaque sun]

and yes, doing first few levels of ship upgrades are one of the best early sources of sail soeed

[vocal rose]

the one from the W5 boss? if so, i'm not up to that, yet.

[opaque sun]

efaunt helm is just for the droprate, and wont be wearing it for long term, so what stones you use doesnt really matter

just go with w5 store stones and it can be luk or str as the stat wont matter for what it is used in

[vocal rose]

what's the name of this other helmet? is it listed on the wiki? [because only the efaunt has drop rate.]

[vocal rose]

i tend to put on the efaunt helm when farming rare drops, cards, etc.
DK for rare drops from regular monsters.
VMan for bosses.

i see. the wiki only shows 1 misc bonus. so i couldnt see the drop rate.

[pulsar cliff]

FINALLY.

[vocal rose]

yeah, i'm probably months away from making that divine helm.

[visual lava]

Who's going to tell the wiki?

who runs the wiki?

[glad hamlet]

Which class is best for this?

[willow drum]

bubo

then sb

[hexed crescent]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[bleak gazelle]

everyone? i can probably update that tonight though. did the weapons and forgot the armor

[frail cosmos]

I used pirate and the other one with portal xd

[vocal rose]

so i'm debating making the 2 Yum Yum tokens, now, for the achievement, and to use the trophies til i make the W3 ones.
need 2 efaunt helms.
have 1 which i use. it bumps my drop rate from 5.24 to 5.3. .06 is 1.13%
.....does that 1.13% DR matter much? am i better off using this helm now, or waiting a long time til i can make the W5 helm?
[bc making another efaunt helm is possible, but a waste.]

[pulsar cliff]

Long term I personally would make the trophies, the extra respawn would outweight the marginal drop rate.

[vocal rose]

i'm not doing much in W2, currently.

[pulsar cliff]

My opinion wouldn't change much on it.

[bold quiver]

What are the 2 monsters that dont show on deathnote that i can get 100M kills of for super chow? DR poop and nutto TD?

[silver moon]

With this, can you dictate what kind of ores it burns?

[pulsar cliff]

That be them

[dreamy merlin]

Whatever you put in gets refilled

[pulsar cliff]

It's whatever you had loaded into it

[silver moon]

Nice nice

Thanks much

[gritty sierra]

Hmmmm is there a way to raise divinity xp? I'm getting like 21 on my vman

[bold quiver]

thank u. Am i missing any monster? or only those 2

[hexed crescent]

any reason to keep going?

[bold quiver]

flex

[gritty sierra]

Nope

[pulsar cliff]

Technically? The green mushroom in Doots chamber, the mimic outside of Dungeon 2 entrance and maaaaaybe frogs from W1? But don't quote me on that last one.

[bold quiver]

haha agotcha, so only those 2. Thanks

[hexed crescent]

Flexing being half a year late to do this lol

[bold quiver]

lol

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah pretty much lmao.

[bold quiver]

time to spend some candies!

decent i'd say

205H for 100M, not bad

[pulsar cliff]

That's actually not bad at all.

[bold quiver]

better, had forgot my obols

[opaque sun]

solo mimic at butterfly doesnt seems to count even if you killed it with combustion (or boomerang while swapping to dk)

[pulsar cliff]

Really? Good to know.

[bold quiver]

good to know

fun thing is that getting those poops didnt add to my apocalypses chowed O.O

[opaque sun]

also kattlekrux moles dont count. Left it idle for a while but no zow

[bold quiver]

guess its counted as the same monster for that

done

now only missing the monsters at W5

[little harbor]

Best place to splice DNA in W4?

[bold quiver]

soda cans

[little harbor]

ty

[bold quiver]

but i'd do at floms

if u are planning on spending candies

floms is the second best and u need the golden twine to craft magma helmet

[little harbor]

why floam? im getting ~50% more at cans than floam

oh, thanks

[bold quiver]

but if u are short on candies just do soda cans, that was just my preference

cuz its a pain drop´ping those haha

[opaque sun]

And accidentally hitting splice when you later realize gold twine was among the list of items

[swift pecan]

Finally got suggma knucks after 560m kills lmao.

590*

[pulsar cliff]

WOOOO grats!

[swift pecan]

Now everyone can afk stilt moles for hampters so i can actually get decent gear on everyone lol.

[fading dust]

What dementia obols do yall endgamers use?

[swift pecan]

I think at this point its skilling, drop chance or cattlecruk obols

[fading dust]

Not pop chance tho right - the dice ones?

[swift pecan]

Yeah dice, you stop at silver with pop

[haughty cove]

what is the best way to lvl up mman?

[pulsar cliff]

Like, for main levels? Same way as usual, pretty much the active card set up you use for anyone.

Active EXP (moonmoon), crystal spawn rate, etc.

[haughty cove]

ty

[twin token]

Can someone look at my ie and see if I'm doing cooking right

[pulsar cliff]

I can take a peak, what specifically do you have a concern about?

[twin token]

Nothing in particular but just wanna see if I'm doing the right things

I ignored cooking for the entirety of w4

https://egmann.idleonefficiency.com

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah I'll take a look

[twin token]

Thx

[pulsar cliff]

First off : Claim your keys and do your quests lol. Gotta get 10 keys daily my man.

So yeah, I can see that you ignored cooking lol.

You're not doing anything wrong - You just have a lot of catch up to do.

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[twin token]

Thx

[pulsar cliff]

6th tab from the left, there's a guide for pets.

Both how to set them up for foraging spices, as well as progressing for new spices, and arena. You're going to want to follow that consistently.

[twin token]

I pushed everyone to chiz earlier this week and was waiting for weekly reset 5o do the quests

[pulsar cliff]

You still are missing one on Amorak, 2 on Efaunt as well lol 😛

[twin token]

And for amarok I have 9 so I can try to greenstack bones

[pulsar cliff]

Ah

[twin token]

Efaunt is just me being lazy

[pulsar cliff]

I can't judge that, half of my account is riddled with me being lazy.

[twin token]

I have them both pushed but just haven't done the quest lol

[twin token]

You'd be horrified if u saw my full dashboard

[pulsar cliff]

Barb AFKing at cooking is solid for getting ladles and pushing cooking along.

But you'll hit a point where if you follow that guide you'll collect lots of spices daily, upgrade your kitchens.

And you'll want good spices for buying the lab shit out.

[twin token]

Well I just got gohart so my plan is to level everyone in lab until I can reach the last node with 9 chars and then switch barb to nobi so I can start zowing

Because I heard that it's not worth putting barb in kitchen until u have some zows

[pulsar cliff]

That's true.

I mostly chewed candies for my zows.

[twin token]

Yeah I'm planning on doing that

Thanks a bunch for the help

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah no worries, feel free to ask and I'll do what I can to help.

[modern plaza]

biggest update ever about to hit

[sick sentinel]

huuuuuge translation update

[prisma drift]

Island expeditions that big?

[sick sentinel]

boons for sure

[prisma drift]

He said he wouldn’t do any more crazy rng on last stream

I’m curious what expeditions will entail

Maybe like breeding expeditions in IS

[pulsar cliff]

About to hit like, Possibly this week?

[prisma drift]

I just spent like 50$ on arcade balls

If this update is heavy with the iap my wallet won’t like it

[signal osprey]

I don't think it will be

[hexed crescent]

When can I start flexing?

[signal osprey]

300

[hexed crescent]

Cya in 3 hours I guess

[round drift]

Must you spend gems to get ancient artifacts or can you get them without spending gems?

[signal osprey]

You can get them without spending

[hexed crescent]

You can get them naturally

[round drift]

How do I do that? just keep sending them to the island where the artifact is unlocked?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[round drift]

Ty

[hexed crescent]

You can see the artifact chance on the chest. If there are no % chance, it means you can't get artifacts from there

[lost beacon]

What was the level to push LAAARRRYYY to? 500?

[pulsar cliff]

501 (500 is wonky) = 100% +2
1100 = 90% + 2, 10% + 3

[sick sentinel]

501 for 100%, 700 for 105, 1100 for 110% +3 like roggi said

already had it typed out so i didnt wanna delete it lol

[pulsar cliff]

Hahaha I know that feeling.

[lost beacon]

Good deal, was at 470 with enough atoms to get over 501

[agile pagoda]

Does boosting Fired up increase attack speed gained?

[vocal rose]

Rift: Skill Mastery
"+10% Smithing EFFICIENCY", "+10% Intellect EFFICIENCY", "+10% Sailing EFFICIENCY".
^ these things have efficiency?

[heavy moth]

oh hell yeaaa

[lost beacon]

You inspire me

[heavy moth]

ahah happy to hear that

[north juniper]

3 bubbles to go!

[fading dust]

Whatcha trying to get 🤩

[leaden karma]

first try with 10%

[balmy schooner]

Is there a optimal way to level snail? Just unlocked him.

[sick sentinel]

usually yolo upgrade til around lvl 10 or so

then consider encouraging to upgrade

there may be a post somewhere in #1084911530417606656 about snail

#1106590058947035247 message

[sly plank]

for rift skill mastery, when it says "printer output +1%" is it referring to sample size? or does it apply as a multiplier to your sample? just wondering if I'll have to redo my samples each time

[sick sentinel]

its an after the fact thing

doesnt help sampling just spits out more resources

[sly plank]

yay, thank you

rift 16 probably good stopping point if I'm still relatively early right? I'm nowhere near 1b kills so rift 21 won't help me and 26 feels out of reach considering I'm only at like 200m damage

I can come back to rift 21 when I'm stronger yeah?

[sick sentinel]

always can come back

if its too much then dont worry about it

[viscid sandal]

Anyone know what the max crystal spawn chance is for non-maestro?

[sick sentinel]

mine's 1/27 rn and i dont think im thaaat far behind

maybe 1/25

but that seems rly hard to get to

[frozen knoll]

1/25 is where im at

[viscid sandal]

interesting.. could i see this breakdown from you guys?

[sick sentinel]

shrine becomes the biggest difference at some point