#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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What most pity for doot pet? Thats 200 pity gacha is so high, almost a month of my salary 🥲
Tasks that can be done afk should not waste precious active time on it
do the stars need to be unlocked for infinite stars to work on them? wondering if i need to go do these old AFK unlocks
only if u wanna double them
You get the benefit before you unlock the starsign if you manage to obtain infinity
you still get the base effect even if its not unlocked
well it only took me an hour, but i have 1500 more stamp levels lol
been really lazy about that apparently
I couldn't get an answer on whether bubble cost reduction has a cap in w3-4 chat. Does anyone know if that's true? Bubble 15 doesn't seem to help.
caps at 90% or something
The total reduction caps out at 90% or so, so is why further raising cost reduction bubbles seems to do nothing
What about yellow 7 and cauldron boosts?
Those contribute to the 90%
discount tags are like the only separate cost reduction multiplier aside from that
So I shouldn't worry about boosting cost reduction anymore?
Aside from nblb threshold, dont need to concern too much of those cost reduction bubbles
Vial should be separate
Makes sense
been there
How long did it take some people to unlock max bubbles? Got all cauldrons maxed, all p2w maxed at still cant get the last 2 on red or purple. Driving me mad
Think rng just hates me
are you unlocking with BC with this maxed?
Whats flies should i be sampling,only have 4 slots
how dare you say bc
what about the other 2
Whats the best bubbo active farm for low level-damage?
in W1-W2? for the best alchemy progress
Who doesnt tbh
my fmj is kinda low so i might as well
bc even with food i die to crystals active sometimes and its annoying af
It's for a friend who stopped playing a year ago, i sent him to Cans/TVs but damage is not even close so i was thinking on a W2/W3 mob for him to farm
sandcastles might be ok
One of my Vmans just got 49 lvls from an overnight leveling session... I guess he was way underleved compared to the rest >.<
you have more than 1 Vman?
Yeah... For some reason a long time agora I thought that my 10th char should be a beginner, that was before ES and SB.
Got stuck with it since couldn't change and now I have a second Vman. Luckily they both share the same speedrunning record, that way I don't have to speed run with both. That's why my second one was at lvl 200, the minimum required to be a vman
First Vman run 12.. second Vman run 19.. improvement i guess? lol harder than i thought it would be
Yeah. I always feel that getting that multiple of five breakthrough is the most difficult. But 19 for the second is good.
and my Vman is a very basic man.. barely the lvl 150 req 😄
but he now hits for almost 2.4 million more than he did as a Mman
My stupid ass left the elegant seashell by the harvest all button and I just harvested 19 chemical plants I was hoarding to try and get the 6th level >.<
ouch
Luckily they were all lvl 4, not a single lvl 5. That lessens the pain 😦
do you guys use rock?
i do, i check back fairly often so i feel its not a huge tradeoff
Only when my snail resets and I have to go back to the previous level. Don't know if this is the right way to do it though.
seems like it would give more hourly bits but never tried it
i dont get it
bubo is better
What's good fishing exp on vman these days
i think theres only one place to fish
that and crystal countdown heh
Nah like per hour. I can get 22.5m/hr just making sure I'm not missing something obvious
ok Lava, I'm ready for the update
@plush gale I'm at 550m kills with no recipe I feel you.
Seriously I feel like what a Crack addiction must feel, scratching my arm looking for a hit lol
Or I guess that would be meth not crack
W/e
lava sure is edging us rn
whats the best card set for divinity?
biggie card and thats it
Where do you get this informations about the update?
Steamdb
Oh rly
I've been checking multiple times every day it's so bad😭
And I assume there was something that needed to be fixed and thats why its taking a few days
Because it was just updated again earlier
It's just utterly ridiculous
Drops are determined by base kills not death note kills
that's deathnote kills though 
Stuff like multikill contributed to death note but not getting drops
300m is nothing in regards to the recipe
When you hit 1b you can consider yourself unlucky
that's why I only keep my multikill exactly the same as my drop rate 
realized i was in the wrong chat so I was going to go to general, but lab and nobisect isn't a bad idea, ima go check
haha ikr, im like im def not addicted but damn plz hit my numbers daddy
it must be pretty big i imagine
It should only be another day or two assuming his latest update fixed whatever issue he encountered
my dream about the update was like really nice and complex. really excited
So would 54m be pretty lucky? lol
is focus the way to go for divinity?
i’ve been having crazy (bad) luck all day. quite lucky if you ask me 🙂
mantra seems pretty bad to me
yeah, no idea whats up with my KPH, Nobisect is on, Multikill lab is on. Its telling me I'm at 2700 for Fire Spirits, and 10200 at lampars right now
100% survivability?
thanks, that solved it

i'm using mantra because i want to push all characters to 40, and don't want my pushers to be sitting in lab or divinity to achieve that
Mantra theoretically gives 10 exp per hour (total for all characters) which is the highest exp/hour of anything
well except for the last one yes
i see, but what if im pushing divinity to unlock goat, i have 7 characters on divinity, should i still have mantra on?
No because the shared exp can't proc double exp chance
ah ic thank you
you need div points for unlocking gods and mantra only give div exp so no
Lava will have next update almost ready by the time this one publishes
my stiltmole card is only 1 star but it prob helps a little right for divinity xp?
This update isn't even a very big one anyway so hopefully the next one is ready soon 
How do you know its not big?
I don't have all the specifics but it was mentioned by a beta tester
Also ot fits in line with the way lava launches updates
just give me anything i can’t wait my skin is bleeding
lol
Whenever he has a big shiny update he gets excited and pushes it out quickly even if its buggy
i wonder if there will be a new limited shop
plz oh god i’ll take autoanvil deposit fix
so it deposits when full not just once a day at reset?
oh i didnt realize that lol
What are the best maps for statues
BEANS
On bubo
yeah it’s funny, just one character you dont have to click on the anvil claim…
wonder if it will ever be fixed kek
Why would you do it on bubo though. DK gets more statues in a few hours than bubo gets in a day
what i want fixed more than any single other thing is construction speed/xp speed being gimped when active on anything but a warrior
My bubo is lvl 381 while my best di is like barely 200
you will still get more because of orb
alright but what map should I farm
when you bubo, you do on a map that is good for cc
if you want statues, you do on dk
Dont try catching two things at once half-assing it on each
Ok I’m just trying to maby let my phone afk over night getting statues
But I want to know what is the best map
also depends what statues you want as each world drops different statues
W1 beans, w2 sandy pot (snelbies), w3 bloodbones, w4 clammie
Ok thanks then
On a dk
Ye
think we will get anymore sailing clouds? im thinking of tossing my cloud discovery guys now that i got last cloud done
you never really needed one to begin with
lets not talk about past indiscretions lol
should I focus on maxing this after unlocking all pets?
Even 6 is enough to fill all spices without using a tsar
isnt it affect foraging speed?
its just towards fight power requirement
If current forager team meets the fight power requirement of the spice zone, it doesnt do anything by upgrading it
then I dont know what to level, egg and fence slots are maxed
I would just save it for w6 additions
that lv 70 upgrade seems good too, but I'm only lv 62
better than nothing, 1 level make my exp multi go from 11.2 to 11.22
ty
can vman sample these two monster material during speedrun? 👀 i maxed all monster material vitals before
if its good enough I assume yes
prob tricky af tho
I didn't even know you could sample during Speedrun, thanks for that
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i wish you could get a portion of your rolls added to your existing nugget
maybe a future companion pet bonus that adds 1% of your nugget rolls to your current nugget
please no
there should be no more companion updates. just learn from his mistake and move on
it is confirmed that companions will eventualy rotate, no one knows when and how this rotation will work but he did said it will happen
and god forbid some people didnt "hate" the companion update
The nugget mechanic is the crazy kind of rng. I had <500 for like 8 weeks then got 190,000 out of nowhere - how does this make any sense ? ;p
Don't worry the nugget companion, prayer, and lab chip companion are coming in the next set
190k whoah
lava not adding “companion pets” as it had too much basklash. Instead we get to pull for follower islands from island expedition that uses yellow gems to go find an island
someday
most annoying nugget roll i ever had was rolling a 36.6k when my current nugget was a 37.1k
yeah im saving up for a 300k minimum

how do you smelt bars quicker
Afk claim archers more frequently
ah
The “how long” of a afk claim doesnt matter, just the frequency
invest into archer talents for smelting yes
Huh so just open close log in?
Damn that talent does wonders, thanks.
smelting talent along with automated arm can only smelt one forge cap worth of filling pet afk claim. A 2 min afk claim is more than enough to smelt one forage cap worth of ores
An afk claim needs minimum 2 min to be considered as an afk claim
active only counts base kills so its slower
If you've got enough kills happening it's good yeah
Afk smelt counts all kills, so unless you really suck in multikill, 2 min is more than enough to smelt the relatively small forge cap size
No idea how far along they are worth a test that's all
bruh blood barbarian is so shit for kattlekruk
need really good dmg to outdamage the heals or u gotta run around killing the moles cause hes got no aoe
absolutely! i think vman is better lol
I just got rage artifact and then another artifact got ancient pretty good but ancient rage would be better
There’s the flame skill that burns every mob
yeah but its only every 20 seconds
@placid mural my arm has almost lost all its skin, thankfully i have my other arm to start meditating with
and dosent kill everything its only in a certain range
Ah, haven’t looked into kk fights too much, just bapped a few times and have left it
BB and Vman are pretty much the same thing, both have aoe clear both have a claw/whip both have something they toss axe/coin lol
And both are good for cooking
why my steam and ios not synced? i just login on my steam and when i play on my ios all my char havent logged in for around 1 day
Did you do a cloud save by going to character selection screen before logging in to another device?
always
usually this kind of thing happened when steam version is different with ios version
but there is no update rn
Tried logging out and back in yet? I've had some problems with sync with browser/steam and refreshing/relogging usually fixed it right away
Other than that, I've no idea what could fix it, except maybe waiting a couple of minutes if it's server side lag or something
this steam ver
Can you clear cached data on ios, btw? To force it to load account data from the server?
This on my ios
Is it worth making this
imo no, just save materials for chizoar helmet or green salts for lustre weapon
For slab, once
It's also a cool looking hat if you want to distinguish a lab slave from your more useful chars in lab
oh gods of idleon endgame or wise veterans what can you suggest me to do with my progress, i dont need very super effectiv strateg, but some simple tips on what to pay attention to now https://depresstree.idleonefficiency.com
get 10 characters 😆
2 DK 2 ES 2 SB is meta
if you have doot, only 2 DK is really needed
I'm tempted by the prospect of changing classes later, that the only reason))
i got 2dk but i dont know why people like it so much
even if you got 3 beginners sitting in lab, its worth making em for 3d printer
and divinity
boost for gaming maybe?
its for construction
i mean my dk is capped on both gaming and contruction
oooooooh you mean for the construction itself
okok i got it
at one point, your squire/DK has more than 10x all your other characters' build rate so you just put exp cogs on the board that boost its build rate
well yeah, nobody else can do that
y my DKS are 340 and 370 while the rest are 150 xD
convinced, a little later I will create today, otherwise right now there is not enough time
in general, i would say just work on gathering materials for alchemy with your 3D printer, you'll see big gains there
the pope hat used to be bis active bubo hat when magma didnt existed and troll hat was still considered to be too expensive
Now not much reason to make one
pope hat best hat
with these stats where do you reccomend i should do cranium
floms probably
ok thanks
or soda cans
cranium its a BC ability for alchemy?
yeah cranium cooking
i just fast go 2 time on any arena))
cranium in colo is a very old technique
like you do know tenteyecle cooldown reduction also works on cranium cooking’s cooldown too
Is there anyone here who has past 10k on their main stat could give me idea the ideal dmg range?
You know your minibosses are maxed out?
main stat contributes to damage, but is not the only factor so hard to say
Like even with 10k stat you can be staggering with few M damage, while can also be in few T damage
and? killing them will do something cool?
Trillion? As in the character display or the actual crit dmg? Have you past 10k stat or have seen anyone with such stat?
Well yes they do have stuff you normally would farm every couple days
Trillion as in max damage on charsheet
And yes people are getting few T damage on 10k-20k main stat
I think people with 10k stats should progress far enough, so they have common damage range.
I never seen anyone with trillion dmg 😅 that's so crazy
With relics being a thing of luck, just those can change your damage a lot
you just hang out with people with similar progress of you
I'm here to find them 😆
10k main stat is some what better measurement than say class level, but that is not the only factor so it varies alot
Have you somehow past 10k? How much is your main stat on your best char now?
People who cant be bothered doing hourly main stat bubbles can still reach high damage if he been working in other stuff, while some one who only been doing mainstat may still have shitty damage
hope that was a joke?
what's the main source of main stat 💀
Currently like 25k main stat with 3-8 T max damagr
I think it's equipment.
👁️
Idk but me at 15k main stat had more dmg than someone at 25k that i've seen
Equipment??
They were just slacking on a lot because they were at 1t xD
not alchemy?
Hmmm
Vman being like 200b damage on 10k luck
Idk i barely past 20bil dmg with 12k stat. Idk why it's so low.
I don't use dmg food. And i haven't completed the last 3 relic
Main stat is a good damage source as it has many multipliers that bases off it, but you wont get much damage is those “other multipliers” are missing
It's so complicated with so many factors 😓
Just open IE and go through each game mechanic and don't neglect anything*
Can you give me ss on your main char?
Usually pretty easy to spot areas that are behind
“Main character” is something only early-mid gamer have
Ugh 😫
post mid game you shouldnt really have a “main”
The one with biggest dmg then?? 😆
I never joke 
The only 3 "mains" that you toggle around are dk/es/bubo
discord is on my phone and i do idleon on pc so not really available to post screenshots
What? I love watching my BB cook actively
Which part do you feel the major boost of your dmg? I think the relics maybe?
alchemy
some relics are pretty obvious like fury and crystal steak, but alch does a ton on those last bubbles. last page 1st and 5th bubble.
And the last bubble on alchemy gave ton of dmg too
above 10k is not really rare either - im at around 17k wis for example and if i go for meme dmg build i do 1,4t dmg
After you put everything for dmg? Like foods or lab?
however damage is so dependant on SO many things in the game, having this amount of main stat does not really secure you the same amount of damage at all
Friend of mine who wasnt lucky with relics and has less bubbles than me is barely at 900b damage with the same amount of wis
forgot food so i could probably go to 1,6t
Then what makes such huge difference
coldseeker op
bubbles and relics do the main part i believe
There isnt a "One Thing" it all works together
Excluding the mummy pet, yes?
yes, i dont have that
Like alone just being on DR cards id be on 800-900b dmg, changing to MK/dmg i get to 1.3t+ pure dmg probably a bunch more. But also "is there a point to it"?
Ugh so many things I'm too lazy to work at 😂
Just go through your IE page by page
honestly a lot of stuff barely takes time
like stamps
I upgraded anything i can remember, except for bubbles which already far too expensive to upgrade, i just rely on the daily bubble free upgrade hahahaha
What's IE btw?
!ie
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2 sites you should use if you care about your progress
it stays like that until you unlock atom collider if you havent yet
I have, but i haven't been able to upgrade much since my 3d printer can only print 50 mil rss 😪
Remember when you upgrade the attempt count in atom collider, it resets your daily cap, so you can do your 30 daily attempts, level it up then do another 32 attempts
I'm not sure what attempt you taking about
it comes with time, if you do a sample while on snake god itll be much bigger - there is also a sample guide 🙂
different for every player as you have different amounts of discount on bubbles from other effects
Snake god in dungeon????
no in world 5 😄
i dmed u
I’m so convinced that there’s a bug in sailing where artifacts that had the gem shop thing used on them straight up cannot become eldritch
Oh thankie
Anyone know why toolbox is showing that i have missing dg weapons but IE doesnt? What's right or wrong?
https://i.imgur.com/MVfVpKa.png
it just took me 2 months for one eldritch, it simply be like that sometimes
they are the same only that IE does not display unattainable weapons yet
What is your biggest atom supplier? Oak wood?
ohh for a sec i thought those were lowi weapons xD
Spent longer than that looking for fury. Got bored and put my ships on every island that I haven’t got full eldritch on and still nothing for the last few week even on the earlier islands
I think better to focus on 1 island at a time, i get eldritch easier that way
5 months of sitting at fury got nothing, got bored
I don’t really care about efficiency when I’m bored and just want to see sailing progress
Are they any guides/tips/botcommands for w5 gaming?
When i hit round 201 on pet arena, do i just turn off abilities?
Someone should make a suggestion for lava for sailing pitty counter too...
arcade pity was waiting in line first
Or you can just leave the battle. Dont need to see “defeat” to register
you'd finish sailing so quickly then
I've only played the game for about 6 months and already down to 4 eldritch to completion
100% haven't gotten a single stamp from arcade, but got the jackpot a few times 🤔
I got the black pickle but never a jackpot, best thing i guess would be 800 balls from the thing you get with the dice
no stamp no jackpot for 1,5 years now..
800 from the mini game? That's impressive! I've topped out at like 100 I think haha
Yea it was my first one i ever got too so i thought that was normal
Yea, I think you win here. I think I've been playing for almost a couple of years? Can't actually remember when I started
Shiiiiiit hahaha, definitely not like that all the time hey
Nice thats what i get on average as well
Nope i havent got over 100 since
i was lazy and didnt level roadkill for the longest time
got it to 350 today
Sitting at 269 myself
What's the feasible soft cap for roadkill, btw? At what level peiple usually decide it's not worth it anymore to invest much more?
397 is 85%tile
Thx
I will probably get to 350 so its at a flat 100% hard cap is 120% but its not cheap for that last bit
Yeh I was also thinking about aiming for round 100%
since toilet paperlog is easy to print, doing hourly cooking roadkill bubble clicks to aim for 115%
hmm i actually can do that now ig
all the way to 1600 ... oof
How do I get divinity links to show above characters at character selection?
1600 isnt that bad considering main stat bubbles are like already in the 2000s
is there a reason why my oak samples more than doubled but minimg increased by about 10%?
oak generally more easier to boost
logs on logs is a good skill
Also maybe you missed boosting something on the mining side
i checked like thrice for chips, cards, bubble, star sign, equipment, food and god but still nothing
oh well, an increase is an increase in my books
when sample power update has been made, oak samples are more noticeable with the changes so is as expected
wait wdym by sample power update? did i miss something
Chem trains take too long it started with one chem 30 minutes ago 
As in “getting better at sampling” in general
Not as in game update
oh god fair enough, you scared me here for a second
i guess i need to be more careful using the “up-word” when community is hungry for one
nah no worries, i just got confused because i thought that sample rate got somehow buffed
is there a point when golden foods are better split among characters than on a single one (diminishing returns). As an example 5k golden grilled cheese nomwich give 15% STR,AGI etc and 20k give 20% (4 times the ammount for a 5% increase). So what's better 5% more on a single char or 15% more on another 3 chars?
Dud, it really depends what your characters are doing
is there a list of all money from monster cards?
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larry is at 511, i can stop upgrading it for a good while now right?
i made it to 532 so its at 101% chance
its recommend to get it too 1100 for 110%
thast what im going for rn
thats a lot of levels that could be somewhere else for a 9% extra chance
this is a good call
but think about it
10% chance to level 3 instead of 2
thats a huge increase in leveling other bubbles
i suppose, but the amount of times that 9% has to proc before its paid for itself is pretty big too
im just saying what is generally recommended, you do you
how do you reach that level. atoms or click hourly?
atoms, my dementia sample sucks sadly
It'll be a long time before hourly clicking laaarry
does anyone have the pic of what doot gives?
Eternal power
Is this actually in the game?
Nah
Nop
You can upgrade it tho lol
it exists, but isnt used
What character is best for Rare drop farm?
DK, by far
how much damage should blood berserker hav in wrld 5
As much as possible. But if you find you're no longer getting multikill in a zone, you should hang back.
in tremble wrum map i get 22k kills and i hav 1.1b damage
Time for more damage
Ah, well you're at the end of W5 anyways so farm away and upgrade?
My BB has around 800b
yeah im trying to get more damage by getting last bubble in warrior cauldron but my rng sucks with it than mage cauldron
i hav the last bubble on mage cauldron
For getting bubbles, I'd recommend using Bubo, putting 3 + bubo into the cauldron you want to try to get rolls on, and just grind it out.
I'd get hundreds of attempts per hour.
Almossssst.
i hav bubo and blood only on it since i havnt bought the alch upgrade yet
i get 1.8m per hr
Being active on Bubo and using Cranium Cooking will boost that since it gives you bonus alchemy time.
is active beast master worth it for the incubator time?
Personally, no. Better things to be doing active than that.
that's what i figured
Why are you using mining boots for combat.
25k wis
i never got the extra cauldron slots. still worth it to spend the gems for the last like 2 bubbles?
I'd say yes? But personal choice. EVENTUALLY there will be more bubbles though and round 2 you probably do. I spent some time and capped out all my cauldrons.
Dang, very nice.
rlly? I didn't know that
isn't it fine if u are at like 15k an hour
Just a rule of thumb answer.
If memory serves you need to kill a few mil wurms to get into the last zone. At 15k an hour that's .... a lot of hours.
10m for very last,5/6 before right
Thanks.
So at 15k kill per hour that's just shy of a month.
Probably more productive things you can be doing.
But as always, just my two cents.
Very nice!
I might break the 1T by updating my weapon. I should do that. It isn't hard.
this exists, but level it doesnt do anything
Its pretty bad, the worst of the bosses
I had no issues
More card drop and drop rate time!
The idea is as you progress your account wide drop chance increases
1 Tril club!
I ground out basic kattle to 4* so it's doable
Yup. Kattle is my little bitch. Make sure you're running both your card drop rate cards and drop rate cards tho.
Yup, doesn't show up in afk page but it does contribute
It's why ES is card king for mobs
can you still snapshot card drop cards?
But if you're boss farming, I wouldn't be sure that each refresh doesn't refresh the map? So when I'm doing long boss grinds I just keep my card drop rate on.
Yeah you need to flip the card sets each load, it's a pain but greatly reduces card farming time
Yeah I'll just leave my card drop set on at that point lol.
I really should grind amarok to 5* sometime
Was just looking at that as well, only need 97 more
I need to do Chizoar and troll Normal still to ruby. Bleh. I've not done troll keys for a long while lol.
how does the shovel in gaming work? It does not stop spitting out the nuggets. is that normal?
first time it is cause it thinks you havent clicked it in weeks
or some large timeframe at least
How do you max alchemy exp?
then it stores a charge after an hour, then after a few hours and so on with diminishing returns
ok thx
Most of your alch exp I find comes from active Bubo. But upgrade your stamps, and bubo skills and you should be good.
keep buying the the upgrades in the p2w tab as well
silver pens are the worst
fastes way to farm the 1.000.000 ES/DK/SB kills for the achievement?
Active afk in an area where they can clear efficiently
ES is simple, just active idle, easy done
ahh, i had hoped there was a faster way. thank you! Then it will just take a while
will 100b dmg blood beserker kill kattlecuck
easily
w thank you
Sure, people have killed it with far less
I think VMan can do it at 10b
but it takes a while
as long as you can one shot the spawns
Whats the order for picking gaming plants?
wym
They think lava is taking time off because of the backlash
i hav mining shoes because it gives me more str
Bro stop it. You joined the Discord to argue? Fine, but do it in #idleon-gen-chat. Noone was arguing in here for 2 weeks about the Updates
Everyone is just enjoing the Game
Everything is fine.
if you hate it so much fuck off to another discord
Enjoying my ram and sheepie tbh
let people enjoy things
you dont need doot bro, that simple.
Get a Job and spent 500€ on Doot. There is your Solution
GET A JOB!
Oh, I don't hate the game
lmAO
Then doubly fuck off
then dont\
Fine. So why are you trynna argue?
and go away
Hostility even though I didn't swear.
the companions update was dog, and i have doot. dont spend money, doot isnt nevessary
leave people alone
Or even insult
hostility can be shown without cursing
you come into a games discord of a game you dont even own and start bothering people, just get a life dude
I was just curious about the drama, because I had plans to start playing this game at one point.
at what point does bubo proc CC every 15mins or so
bro theres no point in complaining, lava wont change it, so theres not point in stressing it. theres much better stuff to do.
what????? so you were invested in game you dont play????
cmon brothers and things, we have samples to do again
200 tent
LMAOOOOO im dying
It's called doing a background check.
You literally have no reason to hate this dev yet you do, kinda pethetic
I am not sure about 15 min. But with 200 tent and level 190 CC Bubble i get it every 25-30 min i think
bro you a grown man LMAO
well kindly buzz off so that we can try and keep the discord from having trash talkers like you infesting it
ok, cause im at lvl 200 tent with the bubble at 177, and at OJ it seems like 20 mins
Bro knows about the game. He is just here to hate
I've been burnt by plenty of games before, nothing wrong with checking.
Wurms is quicker once you have the damage because there's more mobs, basically
ok you checked, now go find a different game/discord to bother
What is the best map to farm for fragments. I've been using snelbies since I also needed double sixes. But I don't anymore. Is there a map that has a high droprate of any gold obol?
is wurms rly that much quicker?
bruh i play apex legends f2p, and theres always good and bad updates. nothing stops me from hitting diamond-masters every season? every game has its bs. but doing a bg check is crazy LMAO
if so its gonna be crazy
I usually do not pay much attention, when i play Bubo. I guess the only thing holding u back from 15 min would be the Bubble then
Nah man, you play as many games as I have, you will realize that some games are out to get ya.
bro you sound schizo, just dont spend wtf???
ok so clearly this isnt a good fit for you, so buzz off
Who said anything about spending?
Well next time, ask the people playing what they think first instead of insulting the game/dev
so what are you complaining about??? king doot? the game is so playable without it???
Again, I never insulted anyone.
Ok bud
I like how some of you are immediately hostile despite knowing nothing about me
to say "people still defending lava?huh." is an implication of a player base with ignorance, or blinders on, one could even say "idiots for doing so"
why would we care?
look buddy you may not have had any ill intentions, i get that, but the way it was phrased, may have it seemed as hostile to others
whats your reason for not playing, like an actual solid reason?
Like I said, I have no investment in the matter, I just wanted to play the game. But given the direction it's heading in, I've made my decision to not do so.
That is all.
give the reason why
fantastic! glad you made that call, now buzz off
ok now we kill this topic
So you made your decision, so why stick around and comment in the discord for said game you made the decision to not play?
and back to sampling
I wanted to see what the community is like.
whats the high roll on triple sixes obol? 7% or 8%
Pointless, w/e im done with this nonsence
what does that have to do with the game?
its single play? now give a real reason.
And their opinions on the matter.
Shhh. Just ignore please. This discussion is not going anywhere
idgaf if you play the game or not, i enjoy it, and i enjoy talking to the people in this discord that enjoy it, you coming in here implying any/all of us are idiots for "defending" him absolutely makes me thrilled you wont be playing
the square or hex or sparkle?
8%
ty
why do their opinions matter to you? you didnt even ask anyone? we all think the update is awful, but that doesnt even come close to a real reason not to play. i didnt even interact with the community for my first whole year. so what does that have to do with the game?
Again, background checks.
not even a reason not to play, every community for games is dog shit to an extent.
bro if you dont have an actual reason then yeah sorry just go bro.
I'll be the judge of that. I'm the one who may or may not play.
this is cringe im out
oh for the love of god, please dont play this game
just ignore him and stop feeding the troll already
nobody here wants you as part of the comunity
man has the god complex
community
What you're doing is fine but the channel you've picked is primarily for helping players with progression.
It's neither the time nor the place for the discussion you're trying to have. It got suggested to go to a more appropriate channel but you've ignored that, so of course people are gonna be standoffish with you.
It's the sorta behaviour you'd expect from someone who has trouble processing social cues
Joined today. Immediately went to W5 Chat. Saying shit like People still defend Lava? Obviously he was someone that left the Server, when Companions hit...
I don't see how I'm trolling, I never told you to stop playing or anything. You guys have your fun.
ah i guess CC gets better if i was to lvl up the cooldown PO box
that is really well put
Thank you, I was hoping for a proper response. And yes, I would've moved to the other channel, but people keep pinging me here.
yes, but unfortunately it doesnt do that to all talents
Alchemy PO box gives 30 seconds of CC time at max level, its kinda crazy
Drop box works well too, more crystal mobs means more cool down reduction
man i keep neglecting my bubo
never thought about that, is there a way to check my crystal spawn chance on ie?
for po box mana, alchy, drop are all important on bubo
Yes you can
im mean theres always crystals when im bubo farming tremors
Yeah, shows under the individual characters
got em all maxed out now
Them pinging you to move here does not make any sense
do you guys ever just... filter monster mats? 
yes
I did until getting my colo bags
yea
all the time and especially if im on vacation or out for more than 10 hrs
Ya gigafrog horns for pop obols
dat part
Is there an ideal spot for farming MK Obols?
Thinking it might help with Vman Speedrun at the moment. Maxing out at 37
feels bad 
mk?
Multikill
spooky skull obol
By MK is it MK per tier?
The mk obols are flat total rather than mk per tier, you'd be better off doing damage/like obols to hit higher damage tiers
damn this afk screen was not fking around when it said i would die here
Ya xause VMAN gives like ~ 1000% flat for another tier
no wait im stabalising
wurm kicking your ass ?
Ok will look in to it thanks.
tremor wurms do be hittin tho
i dont belive it, i have to lvl up fmj again
Termor crystals with mk prayer 💀
they are mean i know, specially the crystals
Health is a better source of survivability at wurms if you're using prayer. You just need to survive a hit to get through it
ok round 2, no prayer this time
time to catch these air molecules wurms
damn these crystals are fallin fast
what uh is a recommended liquid/hr to stop at
∞
truly an infinite moment
so i would say as my liquid rate ---> i, it would become 0, hence optimal is 0/hr
I'd say you can stop for a bit around when you can fill the cauldron with less than the cc duration
Then continue again when it feels like its not enough to do things with it
the rat salt lick?
Also cooking for capacity
it seems i have to head back to W3 for some animal sacrifice
since you people are talking about alchemy, is there any info on if anything else besides gem shop that boost sigils is going to be added soon ?
since the sigil requirments gets stupid high for the current gains, I am wondering if its smarter to just focus on boosting water production, I want to avoid feeling really stupid when later sigils become super easy to get and I wasted all my time instead of getting that class XP gainz
I second this question
hehe sigils only get faster from the sigil speed sigil and the sailing arti\
and gemshop
the arti affects the sigil speed sigil
so
I thought the sailing artifact was for sigil effect not speed
i count it
faster sigil speed
what % lol
what is the highest level tenteyecle can get excluding the +25 pet?
nah ur math right, wiki also says 25% no boost base
245 from book + w/e es give
depends if u lvled up the corner bonus + arctis
can't reach 4 s (reduction ) yet ?
what class do you guys boss farmon ??
this is 399
Whats a good level for raise dead that’s general for all maps?
vman can get highest DR, but your dmg will be shit compared to like ES
so meta is ES i think until you can 1 tap
the one with high DR?
vman, besides stupid mole god, i cant be fkn arsed to do it with vman
lol thanks
if that help i remember looking it up and at lvl 245 885px that end up being about 6.25inch radius
honestly lvl245 will work fine for alot of maps
Hoho i do not have that many talent points
not spending 10 minutes on run with like, slightly more drop rate on Vman, when I could do 30 runs with ES in same timeframe
there's also an achievement that boosts it. Get 10 lvl 9 vials
oh yes the achivement
!guide
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does mk affect drop value on active ?
Does No More Praying apply to all prayers including giant and shiny snitch?
not giants cause that part is the curse, well guess its both
dont do no more praying anyway its bad
Ayo I should have prayers on lmao??

I don't even have no more praying and all I have is giant
Mine is 290 with lava slug and without arctis.
Level 410 ES with max family guy.
royal sampler, rucksack, zerg, dimwit, giants, many more goated prayers
you should always have giant prayer on your farmer, even more so when you unlock alchemy giant bubble
midas, jawbreaker on some classes too
so many free candy that you are missing out on
Only on mobbing chars**
if your bubo ain't runnin jawbreaker you hurtin yo money makin bidness
I have dimwit and sampler on skillers, not sure if there's anything else
(assuming you still 1 shot mobs ofc)
Giant Candy A++ nom nom nom
It's not even unlocked 😭
Damn, spent a few days focusing on cooking and now my speed is up from 500k per hour to almost 10m per hour on my first table 
How do u get it lol
How do i get ability to use time candies
tower defense
one of the TDs to 121
You. Only can’t in w5
goblin maybe? or moon moon
Idek if my TD1 is past 80 lmao
Probably a skill issue
Do I need a guide or common sense?
Everything in this game is ultimately a skill issue
you just click and hold on the candy.
well the !guide is easy enough
Ty
World 5
but you do need to level towers higher
oh. you can't
you wait untl w6 is released
You can’t in w5 til w6 comes. Out
I've maxed mage tower if that helps
Boulder supremacy
just checked, was moon moon
that will only help when he's 50+ and have the atom bonus unlocked lol
P O I S O N
My boulder is 42, frozone is 33, fire is 20 and the rest are under 10 lol
fire and mage, you can 100% ignore besides for the atom bonus later
I’m finally unlocking voidinator rn
Whatcha focus on to get that 👀
Every time I get overwhelmed w things to do I lab everyone & focus on alch/construction/equips lol
First is maxing marrow w vman and then from there got my turkeys to 10m for the extra speed from the sailing artifact, boosted the shit out of my cooking stamps, been keeping my BB in the kitchen to gain ladles and basically lvljng up all my lower dishes to dementia while getting all the higher costing ones to diamond
any day now one of those mushroom boys will wake up and be a t6
its beautiful
Simultaneously working on upping my spice speed so I’ve been able to upgrade my tables more, it all grows exponentially from there so every upgrade I get like 100k added speed
I shall try that
Wish you luck, I gave up.
I feel like I'm in gamer limbo at ~8mill per day ;s
Getting everything to diamond first before upping turkeys to 10m helps (only worth doing that if you have the sailing artifact unlocked that gives you % speed for each pow of 10 turkeys)
Yea Im working on getting plates to diamond now, but its starting to get slow
it will only take an average of 130ish days, no biggie

Also esp focused on all the foods that give cooking speed (hotdogs, cabbage, egg)
The ladles help a lot
I have my BB wearing 2 cooking rings
And the stamps but they get expensive
My BB just finished chowing through w1-3. Now just getting more levels for talent pts, then I stick him into kitchen
Zow or chow?
If chow even better, lvl up that apocalypse chow skill
Yuh Chow
Damn nice I’ve only zow’d w1-3 lol
At least your cooking is nice now 🥹
I’m trying to work towards getting nutto pet & the sand dude who throws bones so I can unlock more spices
That’s my main block now, can’t really unlock new dishes cause my pets are ass lol
Yea breeding is such a chore
Sounds like you got the foundation to get to where I am and beyond tho, just grind it out for like 3-4 days straight in the kitchen (that’s what I’ve been doing)
Got everyone else in lab (and divving in extension haha)
true BB enthusiasts have super chowed by now 🤓
I’m an ES/DK enthusiast 
It becomes less and less of one as time passes.
Nowadays I tend to forget it exists a lot.
lol i only did w1 with mine, currently doing w5 with my bb. he's on moltis atm, figured i'll get the 100m mob kills achievement at the same time
I unlocked the ability to super chow tho 😂 that counts for something
breeding only exists for me to every few days to check the shiny tab so that the bonuses level up 🙃
everything else is eh atm
How do you even get a shiny pet
Never got one yet
Bout to hit lvl 30 breeding, not sure if it’s one of those upgrades
Finally unlocked the fat ass frog and I’m on the duck for w2 lol
I think its the level 40 breeding boost
blue come after gold, then the purple, then the void egg lol
I’ve seen someone post a green egg too
there are further ones, but i only have that unlock at lvl 5, and idc to sit on them too long
Assuming that’s after void
So much to do in this game
How do you see boat/captain number on the crew tab
Love & hate it 😂
Hit identify no? Idk if it shows on crew tab tho
Yeah the other tab
I swear I figured it out once and it seemed so obvious that I couldn’t believe I had been counting them
I think you have to just remember and go back and forth lol
I thought you just hit identity and then go to the crew tab
Ok yea that’s what I thought haha
Damn your boats look sick
Obvious and not obvious at the same time
I hit 2 ancients yest, felt nice, the jade head trading dude & the Maui statue
at the same time we are still in the "dark times" of sailing
not the darkest, but i'm hopeful he will one day fully refine the skill. maybe after w8 
The pain is part of it
I was still w3 when the sailing exploit happened
tyty 
What do you think needs refining with it?
The ui mostly
True, I hate when the boat I want to return is under another boat
Ngl I love waking up and claiming afk on all my chars, have a few of them proc sailing afk too (thanks Doot) and then watching the boats fly back and forth between the islands 😂
i just wish he gave a spreadsheet type chart that allowed you to see all your captains and what boat they are on, what island they are sailing to, time remaining (even if just an estimate rounded number), and a return ship button. that is all i've wanted since sailing came out
instead he came up with this, and it's still disgusting as you have no clue what ship that captain is in until you return him to the harbor because he's under all 20 of the rest of your boats
there is IT, but we should not have a seperate app for a ui
i have 20 boats all at diff speeds, i will go insane if i have to manually return each boat
and misclick when i want to change a single cap
all my boats take 2hrs to reach all islands now (except the last ship) and it was PAIN before he added that
it's still awful though, this ui method would literally be life changing in regards to sailing
Does anyone know any more info about the beta update people were talking about yesterday?
shuld be expeditions
according to lava's roadmap
and it shld be hella buggy, as a lava update is
real, is there a time period its expected? or just sometime soonish
When you afk for 15 mins and get a cooking ladle 
According to the contract it's not that big of an update
uhhh its in the steam logs privated
He just had to fix some stuff
Hopefully iOS party function
Annoying going on my laptop to do dungeon happy hour lol
it could be that, more ios players are complaining about that, so he would prob sort that out
all hail lord and savior trap drone
My 380 ES has not received any special talent point for at least past 10 class level up, anyone experienced this? Normal skill talent point is given as normal, only no special point.
Grinding those shiny pengu & owls
the star talents?
Meaning like star points?
IS there a guide to maximize class xp? ive got a few guys 100+ levels behind my others, want to catch them up
Usual stuff like food/alchemy/equipment - nobi
yea, i just dont remember which ones do xp, was hoping someone made one of those infographics for it. so i dont have to click on all the different cards etc and read.
phone screen too small for that!
I prefer to use nobi to push maps for higher exp gains, but idk if anyone uses something else @mid-endgamers
what is nobi?
Yea no infographic unforthnately
Nobisect
oh right
play bubo active for CC, pump grind time big bubble as much as you can, use active exp sources like cards and starsigns
and also pump your crystal rate
I use it to get exp because each new mob in W5 give a ton of exp
Yes star talent point
Grind time bubble is the go-to if you cant put liquids anywhere else right
i can finally atom larry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you're playing bubo, level anything you need then dump into grind time
my liquid recovery rates are really low, so grindtime is really low. best way to max water generation?
i get 12.3 per hour
does this work for alch/construct ?
Whole game
bubo never stops
i have 2 bubos and 2 beastmasters. enough gems to respec one. should i get another SB or ES?
bubo is love
honestly 2BM sucks
unless you have the elite class swap you cant change them
its not in the shop rotation rn
Beast master is ass until next elites
only the subclass swap
yeah, seemed like a good idea at the time. regret it now.
oh, dang. thought subclass is what i needed.
Has no printable skills
def swap the second bm when you get the chance (as of now)
Can’t atomise the bum
dw it will come back soon, idk why it didnt stay in the shop permanently
its the orange one whenever you see it
Before y swap make sure to level the vial talent
Cos the max level stays
When u swap
the vial talent?
these ones
the level boost they do carries over on class swap, they boosts different talents per class
oh wow. nice
Wait wtf those are permanent? That could be OP for bubos & BB’s if you switch from ES/DK
yup, idk what the actual difference is but it can be nice
how many gems was the token?
I’m assuming the talent it effects stays permanently boosted right?
Meat shank for DK to BB?
like 850 gems for the first then went higher
just make sure you book and level it just in case
blue gems are free
that is true
he shld charge green gems
fk it all green gems
everything
new bundle
you can get upwards of like 500 free gems a week if u rly try
and then boss gems if you are patient
basically
Let’s go just unlocked 🍆
the what
🍆
nah im leaving
I have 8/10 leveling divinity right now and they're all on Mantra. But I'm only getting 17exp for 10 hours. Shouldn't I be getting 80 exp?
Bubo: what skills do you place on the hot bar for active play? seems like it never shoots off the resurrection fast enough
Does order matter?
No canister if w5 and 200 tent
yea
yes, but you dont need canisters most of the time with 200 tent
i like using canister to get things started then take it off
put cc first too to make sure it goes off
Ah usually I just spam like 10 ghosts
can you post a screen shot of your Bubo action bar
Unintentionally cuxking myself not knowing this
That gets a good layer of poison down
i dont need canister? i assumed that is waht makes it really work. I have only 175 tentacle
use cans for now then
bubo also works best with melee weapons
like no dmg
so gotta put some points into cans regardless
the clouds from the monster
So no ram? 
the what
man
leave me alone
my rng aint good enough for that
i only got rift slug
and maybe 5 frogs
Aye rift slug is good tho
sheepie also rly good
i pretty much have no consume chance at all times
oh the charge is nice i guess
finaly
it cant be
If I have doot does that mean that every one counts as being on the divinity altar cuz of artics?
I have 8/10 leveling divinity right now and they're all on Mantra. But I'm only getting 17exp for 10 hours. Shouldn't I be getting 80 exp?
artic doesnt do that
Is he not the one that places u on the lab at all times ?
yes
And there's the other one that if u on the lab ur also on altar



