lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[rustic garnet]

20% active is on a another multiplier than GT, right?

[signal osprey]

Yeah active is separate

[rustic garnet]

should I drop DR prayer or coin prayer?

or is 90% 1 shot ok with poison?

[signal osprey]

If money is your goal than you would lose DR if you had to choose one

[rustic garnet]

hmm actually

[signal osprey]

The money prayer is a huge multi

[rustic garnet]

what if I just craft some new gear

yeah that'd be smarter

[tender pine]

where should I be at for kills per hour?

[manic moat]

Let's say I have all bubbles unlocked, are there certain bubbles I should be focusing on more than others?

[placid mural]

a bit higher would be better

[strong socket]

you should multikill, atleast

[warm kayak]

What are the gem shop prioties in W5?

[manic moat]

sprinkler is one of them I believe

[fallen torrent]

damn i need the molten gloves... still no luck

[manic moat]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml# Not sure how up to date this one is

[tender pine]

well then how am I supposed to get 1 billion damage?

[dreamy spruce]

for early gaming should I just be harvesting whenever my sprouts grow or should I wait for them to evolve (after getting 4th evolution from logbook)

[rocky igloo]

Wait

Wrong chat

My bad

[unkempt quest]

i'm in the same boat

[manic moat]

multiplier for every new sprout. probbabaly get as many as you can right away

[sly plank]

this has nothing to do with damage but you should run royal sampler prayer on everyone, skilled dimwit is also a good one to just have on by default IMO

[dreamy spruce]

alright thanks

[strong socket]

sailing & alchemy are pretty big for damage

personally I wouldnt worry about the later W5 maps
they dont offer alot in terms of gain
atleast until you're strong enough

[tender pine]

how get I do better at sailing? my artifact chance is terrible.

[loud isle]

I got to the W5 boss with this but it took ages, probably wasted my time

[craggy fern]

is there a w5 merit shop tier list?

[loud isle]

Just get more boats and send them all to the place you want an art of act

[unkempt quest]

art of act

[loud isle]

Autocorrect lmao

[unkempt quest]

shouldve kept it

[loud isle]

Your will is done

[placid mural]

TIL that the eclipse damage bonus only applies when you completely close game and log back in

was at 80% logged out and back in, now at 105%

[rustic garnet]

Those are from Slugma kills?

[placid mural]

make it so that DK construction build rate/exp is correct even when not logged in on a warrior. . . .

[tacit tulip]

A lot of the rift bonuses do that, it's a pain cause we'd trained noobs to activate stuff via map refreshing 🥲

[rustic garnet]

This is my biggest annoyance

well, minus the fact that 6 of my chracters do literally nothing

[brisk cloud]

Anyone else a little disappointed in the pets? (Also I should preface this saying I always buy his packs and already dropped like $50 on pulls) No way to earn the gems to do the premium pull, and only get 1 pull a week. To get the guaranteed doot would cost like another $350. Feel like this is the first thing he's put in that's actually p2w as it's a huge bonus

[tacit tulip]

Trust me, you're late to the party haha

[zinc torrent]

Anyone without doot is disappointed

[sly plank]

if we're talking about construction on non warriors then on that note it'd be nice to be able to check alchemy on non bubo

[tacit tulip]

Half the discord got banned over it

[brisk cloud]

Lol really

[zinc torrent]

tomorrow is exactly 1 month after petpocalypse

[brisk cloud]

I just spent another 22 bucks for like 8 pulls so was a little disgruntled lol

[placid mural]

yes a lot of people are annoyed, i honestly think that is one of the reason he has not been nearly as "communicative" as he had been i think he got pretty annoyed with half of the world calling him entertainment hitler and probably lost some of the joy in what he does

[zinc torrent]

I think lava is holding update for friday because recent reviews will be much much higher

[tacit tulip]

Guess where those came from

[brisk cloud]

I've been playing this game since it launched and this is the first time I scratched my head and am like ehhh

[gray thicket]

Tf

[brisk cloud]

Lol although seems like people are being dramatic about it

Game is still solid lol

[orchid rapids]

yes.

[stoic void]

can you not gain div points out of altar with doot?

[placid mural]

yeah i think people went to "lets burn this motherfucker down" WAAAY to fast, and i honestly think that Lava took it pretty hard (may not have shown it) i mean look how interactive he was in the community a month ago vs now

[brisk cloud]

Doot definitely fairly game breaking for being bring a pay wall but it's not THAT big of a deal

[tacit tulip]

The problem comes when Lava balances world 6 progression around top players who have doot.

You either shell out the $300 for it or you fall heavily behind

[placid mural]

that is a problem for tomorrow,

[brisk cloud]

Lava pretty good about balancing, and fair on his play. I'm sure he would find a way where you don't need doot

[placid mural]

"IF" he makes that mistake then it will be pretty problematic

but lets not put the cart before the horse

[dreamy spruce]

only if you go into lab

[manic moat]

which bubbles should I focus on more than others?

[brisk cloud]

I mean really a way to solve this issue is make it so you can purchase premium pet pulls from gems as well

[placid mural]

yes

[tacit tulip]

Lava said he didn't do this because people can cheat in gems (note: people have cheated in doot haha)

[placid mural]

how did people cheat doot?

[stoic void]

up to you to find out, can't be discussed here lol

[brisk cloud]

So fix the issue of being able to cheat in gems lol

[tacit tulip]

Iunno, didn't do it myself

[manic moat]

is there a tier system somewhere?

[placid mural]

eh i dont care enough to dig

[placid mural]

Griffybit does a bubble tier list

its pretty in depth too

[manic moat]

where is that?

[placid mural]

youtube

[stoic void]

youtube

[placid mural]

you can skip to the end of the video if you dont want they hows/whys of things

but i will say its quite educational and interesting

[brisk cloud]

So how are you all beating nightmare with your voids

[placid mural]

because he did it live with his viewers

[placid mural]

with painstaking micromanagement

[unkempt quest]

not

[brisk cloud]

I feel like I'm fucked for getting the achievement cause my void does like no damage

[rustic garnet]

work on it?

[unkempt quest]

I'm grinding out weapon upgrades

[placid mural]

what is your Vmans damage?

[tacit tulip]

Doot would give you more damage

[rustic garnet]

Doot yeah.... ?

wish I could get a doot

[stoic void]

just get doot

[placid mural]

honestly not a whole lot of damage comes from doot

[brisk cloud]

Pfft like 2b lol meanwhile everyone else is like 200b

[rustic garnet]

anyone know how to 'just get doot'?

[stoic void]

be good at rng idk

[rustic garnet]

no, few are doing 200b on vman

[placid mural]

i did it in about 10-15 minutes with 60b

[brisk cloud]

No I mean rest of my characters are 200b

[rustic garnet]

hit me in my DMs if you got the doots

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, about 15m at 50b

200b is to do it without thinking

[placid mural]

the only damage boost you get from doot is being linked to Nobi, (which when all other damage sources are accounted for is not actually that much)

[unkempt quest]

idk how you guys are doing it with that low damage

[stoic void]

my void barely doing 300mil. hard to think of it doing billions of damage

[placid mural]

maybe a tiny tiny bit from being linked to bear as well for skill level boost

[brisk cloud]

It was a pain to do it in my BM at like 60b damage and at least he had aoe skills

[tacit tulip]

Plus the extra talents from bear god, but it's fun to make doot the solutions to all issues

[tacit tulip]

BM arrows can't mega crit which is a massive damage loss. Was honestly easier on vman

[brisk cloud]

Didn't know that, guess that's why I I see bigger numbers from people with 1/3rd the damage huh lol

[placid mural]

WhyTF cant they mega crit? thats dumb

[tacit tulip]

Just a bit with the bow attack

Only crits

The skills still mega but BM skills aren't great single target damage so kattle dies slow

[brisk cloud]

yeah DK finished him off so much faster

[rustic garnet]

BM has terrible single target, while VMAN is somehat ok

[tacit tulip]

SB still does it pretty fast because of the cannonball/homing arrows hit loads of damage

[unkempt quest]

but vman has the worst cleave/aoe

[brisk cloud]

I feel like the issue with vman is going be killing moles lol

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, you basically play keep away, vman aoe to clear the screen, punch kattle, repeat

[unkempt quest]

issue with that is kattle full heals by the time next aoe is ready

[tacit tulip]

That's why you play keep away

You punch moles until it's back up

[minor escarp]

Any chance there is a vman dmg check/to do list for when you want to kill NM Kattle but your dmg isnt high enough?

[sharp wind]

t6 is a myth, it dont exist...

[tacit tulip]

T6?

[sharp wind]

plant

[tacit tulip]

Ah, yeah.

[bold quiver]

u can kill kattle as long as your vman can kill the moles in '1 hit

if u play properly he wont get healed

[brisk cloud]

Sounds terribly tedious, I just want to pewpew mindlessly like my other characters😂

[minor escarp]

well, its more about not wanting to take an hour to do it

[tacit tulip]

I put a few hundred levels into the green speed=damage bubble, which got me most of the way there

[bold quiver]

hhaha only the strong have that luxury sorry

[brisk cloud]

9 characters are luxury 1 is tedious lol

[bold quiver]

barbarian is not that easy also, have to keep atacking moles

[brisk cloud]

Barbarian at least does damage though lol

[bold quiver]

not as often as vman

my vman was strong so i didnt struggle!

[tacit tulip]

Cleave in the basic attack makes mole clearing easy at least

Just click on the 4th mole to kill all 4

[brisk cloud]

Also a little disappointed with the necklace drop, barely better than then chizoar or whatever scarf lol

[bold quiver]

o.o its worse

[tacit tulip]

That's why you use it to make the third scarf

[brisk cloud]

Excited when I saw it in the inventory and was like....

Third scarf? Guess I didn't unlock that yet lol

[bold quiver]

but the necklace is the strongest in slot

Kattle necklace first form is the strongest inslot for active

the craftable scarf strongest for afk/sampling

[bold quiver]

blankie is a joke compared to kattle necklace

this is insane

[sharp wind]

almost a week now

[unkempt quest]

just realized new scarf takes lucky lads

[brisk cloud]

Yeah it's 5% stats vs respawn

[unkempt quest]

i trashed like 10 of them months ago

[tacit tulip]

They flow like water anyway, it's all fine

[brisk cloud]

I've only gotten like 3 lucky lads and I've been playing since launch lol

[bold quiver]

i had lucky lads on filter since forever kkkkkkk had to farm 20 to get my divine scarfs on everyone, took a while

[bold quiver]

DK is the easiest class to drop them for some reason

[brisk cloud]

Is that so

[bleak gazelle]

DK do be the lucky boi

[bold quiver]

i even farm way way more kattle keys on my DK compared to ES or bubo

i can get almost 60 keys per hour on DK, but barely 30 on ES

[brisk cloud]

Divine scarf recipe from the kattle challenges right?

[bold quiver]

yeah need to finish the last

[brisk cloud]

Have to work on that fucking vman then lol

[bold quiver]

what is your vman dmg?

[brisk cloud]

Let's find out

2.2b lolll, but that's not optimized at the moment

[bold quiver]

oh boy. yeah....... it will take a few weeks before u can kill him

or u just sacrifice everything and keep punching that boss for more than 2h

[brisk cloud]

That's with garbage gear on

[bold quiver]

would u say 10b?

10b would be a pain but more feasible

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah 30b tends to be the minimum I see recommended.

[bold quiver]

not gonna lie i'd do with 10B or even less

its worth the sacrifice to get that necklace

its too strong dude

[unkempt quest]

dont even need to do it on vman for the necklace

[brisk cloud]

Yeah I could probably get to 10b

[bold quiver]

talking about the divine scarf craft

[unkempt quest]

we don't afk we dont need scarves

[bold quiver]

its for sampling

[unkempt quest]

dont do that either

[brisk cloud]

3.1b just from changing cards with still garbage gear and low skill levels

[bold quiver]

hmm skill levels will hardly change your dps so dont get your hopes up '.'

i learned that the hardway

[brisk cloud]

More luck helps lol they are all relatively low

[gray thicket]

Are these any good?

Or should I wait for another reset

[bold quiver]

u could max all skills you have now to 245, i doubt u'd reach 5b

prob wouldnt even get 4b

[pulsar cliff]

Left isn't bad, but I can't answer that without knowing what you've got.

Right one is a no go.

[bold quiver]

left

[bold quiver]

both bad but left is decent

loot value is an overrated stats, its uselss most of the time

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah left is better than 3rd guy at least lol

[candid robin]

is this a new scarf or an upgrade to the W3 one?

[bold quiver]

boat speed is always top priority

[gray thicket]

[pulsar cliff]

It takes W3 scarf and W5 pendant.

[vocal ibex]

Looks like my bank only storing 1049m how do I get it to store more

[candid robin]

fuq

[brisk cloud]

That's what he's using atm lol

[loud isle]

What if you meet the minimum speed?

[bold quiver]

thats cap

[brisk cloud]

So clearly I have a good amount of gear upgrades I can make him 😂

[unkempt quest]

yeah there's no shot people are doing nightmare kattle with less than 30b damage

[bold quiver]

unless u have 50M boat speed u are not at minimum haha

[loud isle]

Lol I’m not that far in yet I guess

[dapper prism]

88b without maxed fists took me ~12 minutes. So if someone wants to sit there for 48 minutes with 22b dmg they can xD

[bold quiver]

boat speed captains have such a strong role in helping u get to better islands with all boats

[pulsar cliff]

Your level is solid, but your gear definitely needs work. A LOT of dmg comes from the skill that scales off lowest skill level. may want to focus that

[pulsar heart]

3500 pens and i only got this many crates :(

[brisk cloud]

Oh yeah I'm in the process of making all the kattle gear

[bold quiver]

only use loot value if u dont have boat speed, thats the rule i follow

[pulsar heart]

took like 2 hours too and now i have severe arthritis

[vocal ibex]

Wow

[unkempt quest]

can't even clear the moles fast enough

even with one shotting them

[bold quiver]

get full magma gear

[brisk cloud]

I have all the magma gear sitting in my stash

[dapper prism]

Then you arnt doing it right? i posted a vid not long ago

[bold quiver]

with luck stones obviously

[brisk cloud]

Just didn't feel like putting stones in it yet when I'm going to turn it into kattle gear in a few days

And I don't have the recipe for the damn magma gloves yet

[bold quiver]

o.o

[dapper prism]

If you can 1 shot moles you can do nightmare kattle"

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[bold quiver]

magma gloves for maestro is whatever

only a flex

[dapper prism]

Like.. more dmg wont help you clear moles faster

[bold quiver]

kattle gloves are better tho, so i guess there is that

[brisk cloud]

It's more of wanting to do it faster.... Lol

[bold quiver]

dude, gear wont help u, talents wont help u

stop dreaming

they are all slight buffs that barely change dps

magma set is the only decent buff to dmg, and its not even that big on him

Maestro/vman dmg is the true paramenter as to how strong your acc actualy is

[unkempt quest]

magma gear giving me like 35% damage increase

that's pretty substantial

[bold quiver]

yeah magma gear is the only decent buff to dmg

• 2 opal rings

but even then the point is: 35% from whatever low dmg u have is still "insignificant" for the battle

[gray thicket]

[bold quiver]

35% from a 10B vman dmg is only 13,5B....

[unkempt quest]

good thing i'm not 10b damage

[dapper prism]

I was always around 25b on vman, did a bunch of bubble upgrades and stuff and hit 88b within what seemed like days.

[pulsar cliff]

^

[bold quiver]

^

[dapper prism]

Having the main gear set / emps helps, but other stuff helps more. (also min max the hell out of your cards)

[bold quiver]

chips also op

[pulsar cliff]

Make working towards it your goal. because getting that kill is definitely worth it, but I wouldn't worry about stretching yourself to try and force it. Having goals is fun!

[unkempt quest]

vman damage is so much better now

[bold quiver]

imagine getting the kill and then not having your main samplers at 425!!!

[dapper prism]

I had to lvl my 3rd mage the other night xD

[bold quiver]

niceee

i got my vman to 425 today!

[unkempt quest]

max movement speed is 350% right?

[dapper prism]

Gz 😄 did that one during the day, vman is pretty easy with lvls

[bold quiver]

did u do it active?

[dapper prism]

yeh, 1/9 crystal rate

[bold quiver]

u never played tht active yet hahaha

since i got journeyman

[minor escarp]

how low is yalls vman's lowest skill? 100 or more?

[bold quiver]

what do u mean by skill

[pulsar cliff]

Probably for the scaling one.

[bold quiver]

oh skilling skill, fishing 70 i guess

[dapper prism]

My Vman at 88b+ DMG:
https://i.imgur.com/6urBUim.png

[minor escarp]

sorry, w1-3 skills that scale dmg

[pulsar cliff]

Mine is Fishing at 75.

[pulsar cliff]

That fishing. Balloons a plenty?

[minor escarp]

ok so my fishing is about right

[dapper prism]

Not fully, didnt realize it was already 85 xD
But just decrease xp required then do fishing, rinse and repeat

Easy at 1/9 crystal chance to remove like 75% xp needed

[pulsar cliff]

Crystal Countdown till cap, fish, rinse repeat. Makes sense.

[bold quiver]

seems so boring

why would u people submit to that!

[dapper prism]

You can plan 2 levels basically and do the 2x 75% xp at once.

[granite warren]

Sailing hates me... I just cant get the Fury Relic...

[bold quiver]

[pulsar cliff]

I've read your sentence like 3 times and my brain is just refusing to make it click.

Like. Fishing x 2? Or 2 different skills.

[gentle furnace]

meanwhile my vman at 40b dmg

[bold quiver]

damn all skills so high

[pulsar cliff]

Dang

[loud isle]

Feeling like an Idleon chad until I join this channel

[dapper prism]

Let's say you're doing fishing and your talent is -75% xp cap.

• Get a fresh level up, 0% xp.
• Fish to 25% xp
• Kill crystals, once you hit -75% cap you will level up fishing (during combat)
• Stay at crystals until you hit your -75% cap for the next level
• Go back to fishing, get that new level up and setup the next level up.

Essentially you'll be doing 2x 25% fishing levels each time then 2x -75% crystal xp cap.
The only benefit is you're changing between combat and skilling half as often instead of doing it each level the switch is every second level. hope that makes more sense?

[pulsar cliff]

holy shit.

Yeah it sure does - Thank you very much.

[green eagle]

pls sir, can i have another?

[dapper prism]

Gz, now click the claim buttons 👀

[green eagle]

i don't want that processor 🤢

[dapper prism]

but achievement 😦

[granite warren]

Not even close to being able to get the Krakens for that, much less the cotton candy (since its my next recipie to unlock)

[green eagle]

have

[dapper prism]

It comes back in like 2 weeks. time to focus your samples and stuff

[elder ermine]

Thanks for explain about this trickzbunny

[granite warren]

No you misunderstand, its going to take me months

[pulsar cliff]

Need 3 more pendants than I have a scarf for everyone.

[fallen jacinth]

@dapper prism https://tarelia.idleonefficiency.com
could you do an IE review for me plz

[narrow torrent]

im gonna have a breakdown, barely not enough till reset unless i get every omni proc into printing or something

[granite warren]

My total # of Krakens ever fished is just over 2k...

[pulsar cliff]

Honestly, just really focus down for it. I know it seems intimidating, but

[pulsar cliff]

May be candy time if you got enough lurking. Desperate times and all that.

[granite warren]

I dont think I have enough candy for that, lol

[narrow torrent]

that's with candy tbh

like a month of candy or something

[dapper prism]

or just setup 3D printer properly

[granite warren]

My fishing is stalling hard behind every other skill, so... meh

[gentle furnace]

finally done

[narrow torrent]

I cba doing min max so i do bare minimum maxing (aka cards ,food ,unpprepared upgrades to gear, reseting talents, doing whatever books i get etc)

[glad crow]

what level larry should i aim for?

[frigid acorn]

1100

[gentle furnace]

700 for 105

[pulsar cliff]

500 is 100% @ +2, 1100 is 10% +3

[glad crow]

then im close

[unkempt fog]

does divinity style mantra (1 exp for all chars) not stack on top of each other?

[granite warren]

it does

It just doesnt show correctly

But if you pay attention to the before and after exp bars, you can see the math comes out right

since the away gains only shows gains for that character, but you also get away gains for other characters at the same time

[unkempt fog]

does divinity exp bonus like from ES and stamps affect this 1 exp for all chars?

[dapper prism]

isnt it 1050?

[granite warren]

it does, but since its just 1, it needs pretty large multis before it actually affects it in a noticeable way

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/48XVeo7.png

[unkempt fog]

alrighty thankss

[granite warren]

rounding, lol

[dapper prism]

Damn, well here, this last level bamboozled me 😦
https://i.imgur.com/0CykV68.gif

[green eagle]

will sell to highest bidder

[signal osprey]

Guess you gotta do 2300 then for 115%

[dapper prism]

Mhmmmm, Guess i should

[pulsar cliff]

Hahahah

[dapper prism]

2 Sheepies!

I heard they're in big demand!

[lost topaz]

whats mining speed cap?

[signal osprey]

62/min

[lost topaz]

wow im not even close lol. Ty!

[amber dagger]

What is the point in upgrading past 100?

[fathom lagoon]

Bruh that’s wild AF considering 50 is 50%

[sharp wind]

U could get +3

[lost topaz]

Notice how his last proc was for 3

[amber dagger]

Ahhh I see

[sweet mountain]

regarding Obols. Should everyone that's not skilling have drop rate obols? Are there any other that are useful that are not skilling related?

[dapper prism]

Family tree full or DR
ES and/or DK full of DR, i like both since it's to annoying to switch them often.
vman on luck is fine imo and then i switch over DR if/when i camp a boss for drops as that's a lot more situational.

You want to be sure to buy your daily obols in alch shop as its the only source for some skilling obols like w1+

[sweet mountain]

What about the other chars? As those were the reason for my question, already have both my ES and DK on full DR obols.

[quartz turtle]

~~So does this not work? do i have to have it 1001? ~~ seems to be the case, worked at 1002. but talent library still doesnt have +100 max level

[dreamy spruce]

Have you fully restarted the game?

[quartz turtle]

doing now 🙂

ah worked. I though the talents would get +100 max levels not the talent library building

[lost topaz]

Why isn't teleport used on bubo For spread out maps w/ fist? Should it just not be necessary? seems to be really helping me shift to aura setup on moles map

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah heard that rift needs you to fully restart the game for some things

[elder osprey]

need some ppl to come to pizza 1 W4 and dance for the achi 😄

[vapid wraith]

Good?

[mossy trellis]

Can someone still pushing w5 screen shot their gear so I can see what others are rocking plz?

[dreamy spruce]

How far into w5?

[amber juniper]

Ive seen people rocking Amarok, all the way to full magma so I think that if you could active in flombees you should be able to start W5

[mossy trellis]

anywhere in w5 as long as your still progressing

[amber juniper]

Ive had some of my characters in their Skilling armour so it doesnt really affect much to be honest it just makes things easier

[echo crag]

made it to wurm with this

[dreamy spruce]

Thats my best set, furthest map is citringes I think

[lost topaz]

im at a loss for mining cardset after passive cards. How bad is this and any advice on what to replace?

[echo crag]

check if give better result then lower str card

[mossy trellis]

Thanks for csharing gear!

Is this set good for clearing the rest of w5? Should I rock this until Troll, Magma, etc?

[lost topaz]

will be more about your alchemy that gear is fine.

[dreamy spruce]

my guy at citringes is in dementia I think so you should be fine

[amber juniper]

I would be looking to upgrade it to Chizor, but its not bad if your not far from troll then maybe wait

[dreamy spruce]

chiz with w5 stones was huge for me

from 5 to ~8m dmg

[mossy trellis]

Is Chizor better than Void?

[dreamy spruce]

yes, thats why it needs void ^^

[elder osprey]

yes

[amber juniper]

Yeah as Void is a building material for the Chizor armour

[mossy trellis]

sick ty!!!

[grim torrent]

Remember to do your weekly 20x dungeon (40x if you have the prayer) so you can get some emperor's opals (after maxing the passive stats if you haven't yet)

[delicate depot]

I feel like I am going crazy. Why does my Bubo with a my current maxed book (220) Have 273 in his skill efficiency skill while my DK has 276. My DK has +1 from having 20 higher in the final talent. Where are the other +2 coming from. It seems to be only my Bubo having this issue

[hearty shore]

What's better to max first in gem shop sprinkler, sluggo, or sprouts? (Already have divinity sparkie maxed)

[delicate depot]

probably play style related. Sprouts is probably the most efficient imo. It also increases max sprinkler charges by +1 per plant

[red tapir]

hi i have goat, which characters do yall have not in lab? im thinking one bb for cooking, ES for pushing, Vman for skilling

[mossy trellis]

how do In get the prayer??

[elder osprey]

Frosty Firefight worship

forget what wave

[restive aspen]

Look into maxed crabby cake card, the food boost from it is really useful. Likely more so than either of your str cards

[snow kelp]

Could be from divinty. Ascites. Give bonus talent points to all skills varying on divinity level.

The bear god.

[sick sentinel]

yeah i'd agree its probably difference in div lvl

if they are using bear god or have doot

[calm knoll]

I've got 17 on ES let alone VMan

[lost topaz]

ty and @echo crag !

[bold quiver]

nice just have to pray so that my game doesnt crash lol

[dreamy spruce]

never crashes here

[bold quiver]

my TD crashed twice ever

[echo crag]

you need like 1 more wave for the prayer too

[dapper prism]

Chizoar with emps should be easy to setup

[mossy trellis]

I was going to go for emps rings before the base ststas but is that a foolish mistake?

[sly plank]

I don't know the answer to this but after reading this I put spare points into teleport and it seems to have improved my kill rate, just wanted to say thanks 🙂
FWIW I'm only at oranges though, and I'm not strong enough to one shot with poison, so I think it's because the teleport helps me spread out my auras more effectively

[heavy socket]

how does this work?

[dreamy spruce]

1 point into the talent is 2nd god, 2 points is 3rd ... until 10 points is the first

[lost topaz]

Yea that's what I was noticing, and I'm in the same boat. I can't 1 tick moles, but I also wasn't spreading aura effectively either; and the teleport really seemed to help and it didn't interupt any respawn casts or aura casts.

Thanks for the confirmation!

[sick sentinel]

not this shit again

[heavy socket]

oh

thx

[fading dust]

What artifacts are must-haves for progression in W5?

[sick sentinel]

while funny, its best not to post those pics of the bots

it's considered advertising

[dapper prism]

thought that was just a bug o.o

[ancient mirage]

huh really why?

[ancient mirage]

thats what i was thinking

[sick sentinel]

idk its just all of em help in their own ways

cause posting their literal website makes it so that someone will probably go to it

i know its not your intention to do so but thats just how it is

[ancient mirage]

oh hes guild is a website, yeah ok i get it now

[sick sentinel]

yeye, it was a funny little interaction with gaming tho, i saw what you meant haha

these advertising bots come and go, its best to ignore them

[dapper prism]

oh i was confused about that part, since all i saw was the fishing rod xD

I was trying to think of more puns

[frozen prairie]

what are the best traps to use for pure quantity?

[ancient mirage]

should i just report him ingame or is there somewhere else to do it?

[sick sentinel]

yeah thats all we can do

can try to swap to other worlds and see if they arent there as well

[dapper prism]

Think royal on bm, not sure how the last trap is

[prisma drift]

Does the Og gamer trophy give special powers?

This man is mining in w5 town

[frozen prairie]

so you basically go for highest eff on bm and set all of them?

[ancient mirage]

ok yeah hes there on multiple worlds

[sick sentinel]

the last trap just gives a bit more trap power, dunno how much it affects gains

[dreamy spruce]

someone missed the past 5 minutes

[bold quiver]

dear lord it will take 1h30minutes to clear wave 120 from W3 TD

[sick sentinel]

since you dont have guild names on its the cheats advertising bot

[frozen prairie]

i haven't even done w5 td xd

[dreamy spruce]

rip

[sick sentinel]

ignore it

[bold quiver]

i even threw another poison there , but i think i messed up and should have craftd another thunderguy

[prisma drift]

Wdym?

[placid mural]

for the crit? or for the damage below 60%?

[bold quiver]

idk, i havent done enough TD to have any decent knowledge on it lol

dont even know if that poison below is actualy attacking lol

[pine pond]

how

[sick sentinel]

their guild name advertising a website for cheats, nothing else to be said. ignore it and just go about playing. def dont post the guild name cause you dont want other people to go to it

[prisma drift]

Oooo

I turn off everything I can to help with lag

[sick sentinel]

same lol

[bold quiver]

same

[echo crag]

how much hp left to go throught on that td ?

[bold quiver]

1645

[echo crag]

ugh

[bold quiver]

huge pain in the asss, but at least if my game doesnt crash i'll get the prayer

[echo crag]

as long as you can make it to a cloud save after killing those you'll be safe

[frozen prairie]

what are your tower levels?

[bold quiver]

is it easier to get to wave 140 than it is to beat 110 to 120?

[echo crag]

[bold quiver]

not that high but not that low

[echo crag]

they start taking a bit of time to lvl at that point

[bold quiver]

tell me about it '.'

[pulsar condor]

I've been stuck on the Berry bush in gmaing forever. Is there a way to get more DNA?

[bold quiver]

i would be able to level everything much faster if squire speed worked on all characters

stupid bad design

[echo crag]

that 25b req on poison

[frozen prairie]

my costs are so much higher than yours at lower levels wtf

[bold quiver]

my squire speed is 150M now, but my other characters is 40ishM

[echo crag]

cost cruncher

[bold quiver]

yeah need to max cruncher

[dreamy spruce]

I thought that reduces the cost to upgrade it

[frozen prairie]

mine is maxed

wait i might be dumb

[bold quiver]

it does

[dreamy spruce]

I meant salt / item cost

[bold quiver]

yeah thats what it reduces

[dreamy spruce]

ah okay

[bold quiver]

its hard to level it up early because blue salt is hard to get =/

[unique vault]

whats the best way to beat nKattle on BB? obviously id need more dmg than 25b

[bold quiver]

if u deligently keep spamming everyday 2 combustion cycles on DK your blue salt gets drained

[bold quiver]

dmg is enough, just make sure to hit moles

[unique vault]

speed pots probably

[bold quiver]

swap between hitting moles + AOE skill + hit kattle + hit moles repeat

[unique vault]

theres so many to micromanage

[bold quiver]

indeed

best thing u can do is max your active talents on BB to help with dmg

[unique vault]

yea ill be sure to do that

esp bear claw haha

[sharp igloo]

You can kill him on your vman but not your BB?

Is that normal or is my vman just super weak lol? He has like 1/10th the damage of my 2nd weakest character

[tall dock]

Hello everyone! Does artifact find chance influence on finding ancient/eldritch artifacts?

[sick sentinel]

Yup

[tall dock]

Thx Bro 👊

[sick sentinel]

Its prob only a tiny bit

[tall dock]

I was wondering If o should replace my capitains

[sick sentinel]

Hmm im not a good help eith that since i pretty much stuck to loot/speed

[tall dock]

I haver like 5 cap with art find and wanted to get loot/speed too

I'm trying to get the last 2 Islands artifacts ancient for like a month lol

[sick sentinel]

Those ones are deffinitely tough

[tall dock]

I see, thx again man

[sick sentinel]

Np i pass you my luck

[sharp igloo]

Is there a place that shows atom upgrade costs for each level? I was just wondering how many Id need to max Boron

[tawny junco]

is it just me or does trashig different pets give you different amounts of grey dna?

[dreamy spruce]

the wiki shows upgrade cost to max it, not sure about individual upgrades

[green eagle]

ancient struggles 😴 eldritch

[green eagle]

it's a random amount of dna between like 2-6 if i remember

[runic girder]

That was an expected dissapointment

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks

[frozen knoll]

ooo shiny tooth

[runic girder]

Took me like an hour lol

[dreamy spruce]

but tooth good

[runic girder]

Could have gotten that for 5 keys and 2 minutes

[frozen knoll]

hopefully you saved it for the task that is required

cus 70 keys is a lot

[tacit tulip]

just get more keys

[bold quiver]

gimme keys, i need to drop 1 necklace

[tacit tulip]

just grinding everyone up for the divine necklace atm

as only 3 of my chars were 425+

[bold quiver]

nice

that divine scarf on everyone is insane

• obols

[prisma drift]

Would you guys say it’s a waste of candy to candy golden twine

I don’t feel like farming it when I’m actively already farming the glove recipe

[dreamy spruce]

golden twine is?

[tacit tulip]

the flom drop for troll helm

[dreamy spruce]

ah, thanks

[tacit tulip]

1/mil chance

[dreamy spruce]

oh thats rare

[prisma drift]

I don’t feel like active ES so I might just drop a couple days in candy

[tacit tulip]

just grind bubo for a month before w5 comes out

[prisma drift]

Bubo is better at wurms

I need monies for stamp

Or you mean that’s what you did

[cursive arch]

Did something change recently? I swear I didn't change anything, and just logged in to check my siege breaker and now he has like 5% survivability and too low accuracy for Cheese Nubs.

[dreamy spruce]

wrong taletns?

[grim torrent]

Good point, could be on skill preset, easy mistake

[cursive arch]

Ahhhh I see now, somewhere along the line my guys on lab via Gods/ divinity stopped connecting so lab isn't working

[bold quiver]

depends, how many or what candy is enough to guarantee that?

[tacit tulip]

I had 100+ twine when w5 came out 😄

[bold quiver]

envy

[pulsar condor]

Im trying to do one of the rifts with the XL healing mob and I CANT FIND THE HIT BOX

[bold quiver]

what does that mean? XL

[pulsar condor]

the giant ones

[bold quiver]

cant u just turn on auto?

[pulsar condor]

he gets distracted

[bold quiver]

i see i see unfortunate

[heavy patrol]

Is there a jump on damage at all from 199% crit chance to 200+?

[dreamy spruce]

Why do I sometimes get 2 omni procs? Just got 2h of gaming and sailing and have seen it happen before

[bold quiver]

only took me 3 hours from wave 1 to 120 lol

[dreamy spruce]

At least you didnt crash

[bold quiver]

for now!

[fading dust]

Is rift 16 worth getting?

[bold quiver]

one of the best rift for progression and quality of life so yes

[fading dust]

It's likely the bubble that gives sailing or gaming time - with omni

[dreamy spruce]

I don't have that but prob golden hampters yeah, thanks!

[fading dust]

Oh that'll do it

[floral torrent]

how much dmg does one need to get to rift 16

👁️

[warm parcel]

I don’t remember, but you also need a certain amount of move speed for some of your chars, especially dk. So keep that in mind

[upper hornet]

whats the best bonus to look for in sailing captains?

[bold quiver]

boat speed

[warm parcel]

If you’re active, speed is best. If you aren’t, chest value and artifact find are probably the go to.

[crude pier]

So once we get to a certain level in the gaming garden, is it pretty much just pray for a good multiplier? I've been stuck on 10,247 for a month or two now and upgrades are going pretty slow.

[pulsar condor]

same

[bold quiver]

more boat speed = better island = better loots = better trade for 1st boat, etc

[crude pier]

Okay, good to know I'm not alone.

[upper hornet]

cheers, and I assume as sailing levels the bonuses get larger? Ive got one here with +16% speed and 4% artifact im not sure I should pull the trigger on

[floral torrent]

what are the chances to get better nuggets?

[whole delta]

My biggest nugget is 74k so far

[warm parcel]

Low

[floral torrent]

im at x300 for a week now

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[undone steeple]

my god ive been doing one of the most boring things i ever did in this game

getting everyone to 25 on all skills for 300 mastery and then getting all the cards to gold/plat for passives
and then maestro as #1 on all skills
and then resampling every single toon

soboring

[crude pier]

Yeah, it's gotta be in the fractions of a percent because I'm pretty on the ball and haven't surpassed my 10k one yet. Average nugget size is like 200 with an outlier at 900 very occasionally.

[oak bough]

Is there a new set of BiS card builds for skills with the rift passive card bonuses?

[lost beacon]

It would have been easier to get Doot, load up on Divinity Pearls, and boost everyone to 50.

[bold quiver]

indeed, it was hell when i did it

[bold quiver]

the afk skill gain, all stats + food boost + flat stats if u have a goodone

[sick sentinel]

And c troll

[undone steeple]

XD

[barren otter]

why 2k of these...

[undone steeple]

luckily i failed on the spices and didnt have to be mad at that one XD

[oak bough]

Has anyone done something similar to this, saves me using brain?

[barren otter]

its 5 more main stat of course i need 10 of em on all chars

[bold quiver]

no reason to imo

cuz all skilling cards are passive

[oak bough]

Yeah but mining gains bonuses from other stats

[undone steeple]

right now skilling is
C.troll bunny amarok chocobox blightedchiz +3 stat cards

[oak bough]

Cheers vncnn

[undone steeple]

mining you just snapshot hp from what ive been told

[sick sentinel]

this is the usual for me

[bold quiver]

snapshotting setup is the same as far as i know

[signal osprey]

Replace choco box with another flat stat assuming you're speed capped

[bold quiver]

i dont snapshot before sampling, the gains are so minimum that i cant be bothered

[signal osprey]

But otherwise yeah that setup is used for all skills

[sick sentinel]

snap mana/hp then swap to one like that

[bold quiver]

what is the skilling food speed cap?

[undone steeple]

how can you tell if youre speed capped?

[sick sentinel]

62 for most

[signal osprey]

62/min

[bold quiver]

gotcha

[undone steeple]

62 what?

62x?

[bold quiver]

62/min

[sick sentinel]

shows in skill tab

[undone steeple]

ah i was looking at the afk tab

wait how do you get to 62 without choco

[green eagle]

❓

[signal osprey]

Statues

[sick sentinel]

Food statues/skilling food

[paper sail]

Food effect

[undone steeple]

oh its statues

prob

[signal osprey]

Plus the passive cards made it a lot easier too

You can always have all speed cards on now

[undone steeple]

no i just meant because my cards are all plat and im using best tool

and action frenzy so i thought what could be the difference

so prob just the statues

cause im at 55/min with choco

[oak bough]

Have boost foods equipped?

[prisma lance]

Getting money

[oak bough]

Oh nevermind I misread your comment haha

[green eagle]

my vman thirsts for more fishing exp

[sly plank]

does cranium cooking affect sigils?

[dreamy merlin]

No

[sly plank]

thanks for confirming

[opaque sun]

it used to do on day 1 of sigil addition

[bold quiver]

fun wave

no idea if i will hjold, probably not

dammit lacked dmg

if i level my poison 10 more times i can clear

[placid mural]

What level is your poison?

[bold quiver]

53

[placid mural]

Dang I figured yours would be higher

[bold quiver]

=/

[placid mural]

What is your atom tower damage bonus?

[bold quiver]

maybe i messed up also, could have placed a new kraken instead of leveling the poisons +1 time

80% pretty low

[placid mural]

You just gave me so much hope for clearing 130

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk is your poison higher?

130 was very easy compared to 120 (the waves)

[nova cove]

Just unlocked the trapper box from rift should I collect from trapper drone or wait for reset for the trapper box to collect

[elder osprey]

w8

[bold quiver]

whatever u want, i dont like trapper box

[nova cove]

My trapper drone is low level and each character gets full xp what’s the difference

[bold quiver]

collects every 24h

[nova cove]

Trapper drone distributes the xp also right

[bold quiver]

yes but i fu are in the wrong preset on your BM or not using shiny cards u are losing gains

[nova cove]

Yea my BM isn’t setup yet still grinding xp just was trying to situate everything till I get to the point where I can setup thank you for letting me know

[vocal rose]

Divinity: wait a second. Being able to unlink and Link up to two times in a week is for your entire account, and not per character?

[sick sentinel]

Unlink all chars you want to do at once

[vocal rose]

Are you kidding me? What in the world? I'm sorry but somebody explain the logic of that to me. That is incredibly limiting on what someone can do with their play time.

... oh well great I just screwed myself for the entire week. I opened up the screen and the way it's presented, I thought that that meant you could only unlink two characters for the whole week. So I went ahead and unlinked the character that I needed to, and close the screen. Except I also need to unlink the other nine characters this week. I guess maybe I can still do that. But then I'm locked until next week. And I need to bounce back and forth because I need to take new samples. So now I can't really do that on the day when I actually have time to do it.

[untold saffron]

can't you unlink twice per week now

so you might still have another use?

[light junco]

Anyone got the link to the google doc with all the useful spreadsheets? It had the meta pet setups at various unlock points, a page on what divinities to equip, a bunch of other stuff too. Can't seem to find it

[untold saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

this one?

[light junco]

Exactly that, thank you

[vernal mesa]

Am I underleveled? im lv 202 halfway through world 5

[tacit tulip]

level isn't a good indicator of strength, it's a byproduct of getting stronger

focus on things that make you do more damage (primarily alchemy, but other skills too) and your level will one day shoot up

[sick sentinel]

Yup its a big pain and crummy mechanic. Thankfully we can unlink twice a week now, but its still incredibly limiting

[vocal rose]

yeah. need player petition to remove that limit. like, how is that improving gameplay? how is it "more fun" to not be allowed to do what you want to do, when you want?

this game requires constant respeccing to change between different tasks, and then it put limits on how/when/where you can respec.

[silver comet]

Just get doot

[green eagle]

your poison is 1 level higher than mine, but i have 100% on that bonus, so that will help me out some

[modern plaza]

yeah linking should just be unlimited imo

im not even sure what the philosophy is behind making it be limited

[sick sentinel]

Doot probably

A way to monetize it

[hardy quarry]

The limitation was implemented to avoid sampling abuse and constantly jumping to the altar to swap.

Rather than addressing it as a crummy mechanic, we got Doot as a cure-all.
Unless you are unlucky enough to get beans and only beans.

[bold quiver]

that limitation is to make people actualy use their brains before switching gods and not being a total fiesta

[modern plaza]

ohh beta is moving

[bold quiver]

otherwise people would just abuse and keep swapping gods 1 minute before colecting, or printing, or whatever

unlinking 2 times per week is more than enough already

[modern plaza]

well if you could only link and delink with the specific character you are on, then no abuse capable

we already do all that stuff in alchemy (well use to)

[paper sail]

2 is enough to perfectly sample 1 character and fix it.

I wouldn't say 2 is more than enough by any means

[bold quiver]

1 time per week was indeed very annoying. 2 times is more than enough

[sick sentinel]

Nah

[paper sail]

I got 10 characters to sample man

[sick sentinel]

I can see why restrictions are fine but it cant be that limiting

[bold quiver]

its good because its not a braindead mechanic

[sick sentinel]

Gotta make sure lava can sell the solution

[paper sail]

It is a business, after all

[sick sentinel]

He's just a businessman... doin bussiness

[paper sail]

Surprised we can't buy more relink with gems, similar to the Horn to "wake up" Killroy

[sick sentinel]

Then we wouldnt go for doot haha

Would need to be green gem otherwise its free

And that aint the play for a business

[paper sail]

Eh. I still have many thousands of gem purchases left.

[gray thicket]

What am I doing wrong?

I have seen people the same level with ten times my damage

[surreal kite]

How long does it take for the atom collider to make one particle?

[paper sail]

Level isn't a good indicator of account strength

[bold quiver]

bad set?

also bad rings

[gray thicket]

Ah dang

[bold quiver]

want 2 opal rings and work your way into building troll/magma set

gearwise those are the biggest thing. Everything else is alchemy, etc. Weapon is not worth crafting

[gray thicket]

I haven't yet unlocked anvil tab 4 and opal rings are just too expensive for me ):

[bold quiver]

just make sure u are not buying random stuff on flurbo

like more than 1 tenacity rings, or amulets

or a bunch of hex rings instead of 2-4 to swap around

[gray thicket]

[twin token]

How do I get more sailing slots other than gem shop and merits

[bold quiver]

not trying to get the last talent for mega crit, or buying the useless flurbo upgrades, etc

if u are not doing those dumb things u will be fine with flurbos

🫡

[gray thicket]

I have been doing those things for 20 dungeon ranks currently rank 39

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-couple-gif-21797661

[gray thicket]

I'm close though

[bold quiver]

haha u are fine, u can get 10k flurbo per week if u clear all 4 bosses

[paper sail]

The weapons are absolutely worth crafting. You're nutty

[bold quiver]

vman weapons? have u crafted all of them lol

[undone pollen]

me who bought everything he spotted his eyes on

[fading dust]

I feel that the same limitation could be applied to the big bubbles on Alchemy, which would make it really annoying (without sheepie) having to choose what bonuses each character should get

[bold quiver]

the new weapon is very good. All the other ones are whatever, barely any dmg increase

[paper sail]

There is more to life than pure damage..

[bold quiver]

he wants dmg lol

[paper sail]

Respawn is massive, attack speed is big

I mean sure but that doesn't mean the weapon "isn't worth crafting"

[bold quiver]

wasting time to farm the weapon materiasl to get DMG, u are wrong

it isnt

[gray thicket]

Should I get Voidwalker now?

I was going to wait until I got anvil tab 4

[fading dust]

Yeh, I went from 500 gmush spore/hr to 50 k gmush spore/hr from speedrun

Really nice bonuses

[gray thicket]

[sly plank]

which traps are best for quantity? I ran out of mouseys and scorpios and I want to make sure I'm trapping enough for refinery

[bold quiver]

meaty i think

[sick sentinel]

^ until you get royals

[bold quiver]

oh right, meaty is the best for quantity vs exp i think

royal quantity vs shiny

[sly plank]

yup don't have royal yet, guess I have to debate between 1h and 10h lol

[sick sentinel]

Ye

[bold quiver]

unfortunate that there isnt a setup for last tra=p yet

[gray thicket]

Meaty? Royals? are we talking about the same game?

[sly plank]

don't think I want to collect every hour

10h it is

[sick sentinel]

Every hr is tough

[bold quiver]

my barbarian is slapping at W5, insane

and his dmg is horrendous (compared to my other characters)

[sick sentinel]

314 afk damn

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhh-oops-anime-gif-8820214

[brisk bane]

What, how 314?

[bold quiver]

doot + normal afk gains stuff

DOuble star sign + double cards + gear + rings and other stuff

[fast verge]

should i be using these or holding it

the bottles

[bold quiver]

up to you

[fast verge]

i see i see

[bold quiver]

some people will use them to help unlock new islands, some will save until they have a good boat setup going, there isnt a rule to it

its just speeding up your gameplay

[tender pine]

https://slwykng71490.idleonefficiency.com Could someone check my IE? I need help getting more damage, I feel like I'm wasting time pushing w5 with my 9,000 kph on lampars. I know I need to get frigid souls so I can get anvil tab 4 but I can't get more than 16 souls from frosty firefight, although that was a long time ago and I think I could do better now but I'm not sure and I don't want to waste charge. I would appreciate if someone could tell me if I'm ready for frosty firefight and or what else I can do to get more damage.

[bold quiver]

hmm i can look sec

[fast verge]

what about the gaming one

[bold quiver]

@tender pine
ill do a summarized list:

• You have w3 alchemy, give that area more love
• level your vials properly, u have a bunch at lvl 4 with insanely cheap prices
• Always use DK skills for combustion, pretty good
• Your prints are very bad, fix that. U shouldnt be printing monster materials at W5 lol fix that
• Construction : Stop wasting time leveling useless turrets/shrines, focus only on first row eveything else is very pointless (besides poisonic elder + party starter, lvl those 2, only 2 worth turrets until u unlock construction rift)
• Do cooking, your cooking is insanely bad / get jewels for lab u dont have a single one, need to prepare resources in advance,
• Fix your spices, your setup is bad follow the guide
• Sailing, no idea why u are focusing on 1st island with all boats but u do
• Your trapping and worship are beyond horrible , play the area its important
• All characters are usefull no idea why are neglecting a bunch of characters
  -your maestro is not 1st on anything so he is uselesss

good luck

[bold quiver]

same deal, use if u think its worth

[fast verge]

kk

[inland gyro]

what do you print with your beast master if not monster mats?

[bold quiver]

? catching llol

he can get 50% the sample of a bowman...

so if your bowman sample 1k hunter gets 500 / 600

no idea why people dont sample catching stuff on him, its dumb

whoever started spreading that beastmaster should sample monsters dont understand the game lol

[inland gyro]

its kinda convenient for monster mats you dont need to many of and saves your vman for super prints. i also feel like i dont rly have a lack of caching samples atm. im sure catching would be more efficient though

[bold quiver]

but vman is only unlocked pretty late

u can start sampling with hunter at w3 lol

[inland gyro]

oh earlier for sure would have been nice for getting more fruit flys and what not. assumed this was w5

[zinc torrent]

I ve unlocked all alchemy power bubbles but i see a 0.5 chance for a new one, how does it work, can you unlock bubbles that are not in the game yet?

[graceful gorge]

Whats the best character for farm Pop obols? DK or ES?

[pulsar cliff]

ES

Rule of thumb: ES for mob drops, DK for crystal drops

[graceful gorge]

Got it,ty

[little harbor]

Just getting started in W5. Here’s my garden. Is the general strategy to let plants evolve, or harvest as soon as all spots are filled?

[pulsar cliff]

Uhhhhh dang I don't remember at that point lol. Might not be a bad strat to keep harvesting to try and unlock more plants.

[real surge]

what are gold nuggets used for

[pulsar cliff]

Everytime the shovel digs it pulls a number out based on how long sincve last shovel.

Picks from a range of numbers. The highest is your multiplier. Can't be overwritten by lower numbers.

[real surge]

multiplier?

[pulsar cliff]

The bits on harvest/

[real surge]

oh thanks

[idle glen]

Any tips for nightmare kruk as a VMan? this shit is brutal

[opaque sun]

when using shovel it pulls a random multiplier from 1x to like 1000x. This multiplier is applied to the “big nugget luck” (despite wording, its more of a ‘base nugget value). The final calculated value becomes the nugget you dug (bit multiplier)

[pulsar cliff]

I don't recommend under 50b dmg for it. Otherwise, a lot of patience. your AOE skill is your DPS window. Once moles get close, you're on crowd control, ignore DPS.

[idle glen]

I kinda figured that. exactly what I didn't wanna hear. Just need to up my vman's damage 10x somehow lol

[pulsar cliff]

30b seems to be the floor for killing it.

I'm sure it could be done with less but it's just miserable lol.

[fading dust]

Aight taking this to a poll. Should I finish chowing through W3 with candies?

[pulsar cliff]

Yes.

Unless your kill rates are silly low, I super chowed all the way through 1 - 4 so I could go back to activities I COULDNT candy.

[fading dust]

Currently I am getting 100k kills to neptuneyes

[pulsar cliff]

Are you doing regular chow or super chow?

[paper sail]

100k is too low for a Super Chow, fine for a regular Chow

[pulsar cliff]

^

[fading dust]

What's a super chow? 👀 Im going for 1 mil kills so that I can finally cook

[idle glen]

I've just ignored my vman for so long in terms of skills and damage. blech.

[pulsar cliff]

You're doing regular chow, you're fine then lol

It's a skill from Voidwalker that augments Chow. Requires 100m kills.

[pulsar cliff]

Lots of people fell into that same window lol.

[fading dust]

Noice, thanks regirock 🤩

[idle glen]

mostly because I just hate fishing. it's so slow/bad

[pulsar cliff]

It's my mistake for taking a name that looks almost like a pokemon lol.

[pulsar cliff]

Fishing is the bane of that scaling.

Two options really.

Funeral Pyre your baloons and candies.

If you want the slow and steady route, you crystal countdown to reduce the EXP reqs by ... 78%? Or whatever it is.

And just keep rotating it.

[pulsar cliff]

That's what I did mine with.

[paper sail]

Trapping is worse for me.. Maybe one day, I'll sac the critter gain for pure exp traps 😦

[idle glen]

there a best map for crystals?

[pulsar cliff]

Eh, whatever your void can consistently one shot.

It's more of a question of what you might be farming.

Sandcastles was popular for W2. Since they don't have a respawn skill you're wanting a nicely populated map

[idle glen]

he can one shot tremors, so that's not a problem.

[pulsar cliff]

And the crystals they spawn?

[idle glen]

yeah, was thinking mole peoples

[pulsar cliff]

Solid choice/

I did 50 - 75 with candies and balloons.

[fathom lagoon]

Yo the SB upgraded flag skill from vman is awesome

[paper sail]

I just ditched mine for a month 🤷

Fishing is at least much better than it used to be

[pulsar cliff]

^

[paper sail]

I remember being happy seeing 500k on the AFK screen. Now I seeing close to 5m. That number is still inaccurate because it is the lowest exp fish only

[serene solstice]

dude wtf

2 days 2 eldritchs

[undone steeple]

meanwhile be me with 20 boats on this fucking island for 5 days trying to get this book ancient

i actually got this bitch off of one boat going there at 3hrs per run before i got him ancient

[serene solstice]

hey I tried already before to get this eldritch but then decided to go for other islands ands stuff

[pulsar cliff]

I'm on my last artifact so I'm absolutely just spinning in my chair lmao.

[serene solstice]

I fucking got opera mask eldritch while my sokrates was base version... and I literally got in like 10 seconds between ancient and eldritch for opera mask you don't want to know how mad I was

[undone steeple]

is opera mask bad?

[serene solstice]

its not bad

but

its not that good either

[undone steeple]

i liked getting socrates out of nowhere but i really want that gaming double

that would make my gaming so much easier

[serene solstice]

it does give some dmg sure but sokrates gives all stats what give at the end more dmg thx to crystal steak I think

its not looking bad actually

getting some mats from dungeon cove island and will go for crystal steak after I got enough mats

[lavish quiver]

Nice, i switched islands because i couldnt get that one and forgot 1 dude on there and randomly got it a few days ago which was a surprise

[modern plaza]

wow i thought progress with snail was going to speed gaming up a ton, but it’s already been 10days and i’m still barely getting 10x what i did before… was hoping some how some more multiplication would of scaled in somewhere. But i suppose you really need to experience the 20-40-80x to really feel it moving

[serene solstice]

increased by like 6qq or so

[serene solstice]

damn nice

[foggy briar]

Any tips for breaking the 1m damage barrier?

[serene solstice]

me waiting for the try for lvl 11

(recovered after a reset from 9 to 10)

[serene solstice]

progress in every single stuff your most dmg comes in combination with sailing artifacts etc

[pulsar cliff]

There ain't no way you're in W5 with sub 1m dmg.

[serene solstice]

its sad but alchemy gives most stuff

[foggy briar]

ES + Candies

Rushed trough W4

[serene solstice]

damn

[lavish quiver]

congratz you started w5 skills now dont touch w5 for a while or it will be pain

[fathom lagoon]

Div til goat

Touch grass for 3 weeks

[foggy briar]

Nearly there

[serene solstice]

just progress in every skill like alchemy, construction, lab, cooking, divinity, sailing

gaming is a big nightmare

[lavish quiver]

is that a lvl 6 chemical

[serene solstice]

no

all lvl 4

[lavish quiver]

oh its a lvl 1 on top of a 4

[serene solstice]

never got 6 sadly that and the tree are still missing with t6 but I gave up wanted to progress

ahh yeah

xD

[serene solstice]

btw I started with 3 t4 chemicals...

[regal trail]

So I guess If you have Doot before you reach world 5 once you get world 5 you get perks of all the gods

[fathom lagoon]

You have to get to div lvl 2 w each char

[regal trail]

So having Doot basically skips a lot of divinity progression?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea

But still need to unlock each god if you want the div bonus

[regal trail]

Minor link ?

[fathom lagoon]

No major & minor are auto equipped

The div bonus, like some give div efficiency, some give sailing speed, etc.

[regal trail]

Gotchu

So broken

[fathom lagoon]

The blessing bonus column

[fathom lagoon]

[regal trail]

Yea I would just expect you to have to unlock the god for its bonus to be active with Doot

Not just divinity progression skip with it

[fathom lagoon]

Doot is the ultimate god

[serene solstice]

did I ever tell you guys that gaming is a nightmare?

its not ending D:

used one got two back...

[frozen prairie]

imagine having chemical

[serene solstice]

used again one got two back ffs

10/20 plants are fuckign chemicals...

[ashen lily]

For the Arctis link, how does it work for everything being in the mainframe? I only see one character thats linked without being at the lab

[serene solstice]

11 chemicals pls anyone help end this nightmare -.-

[errant sapphire]

does leveling wyoming blood increase 3d prints? currently just under level 200

[frigid acorn]

Press that harvest all to end

[placid mural]

dude, everything, everywhere, all at once it such a good movie

[ember spear]

Any thoughts on a good target for Skillage Damage on my Vman? Is 70 in all skills gonna be enough to get me into the endgame, or should I push up to 80+?

Big thing is I am only getting 330k fishing xp/hr even with fishing pearls, so going past 80 seems a bit infeasible rn

Perhaps my first Dreadlo Rod will turn that around? not sure

[ember spear]

love that flim

[tender pine]

thanks, but that's too much at one time. what do i do first? i understand absolutely nothing about spices or pets. i thought my trapping was pretty ok, what is wrong? that i only have wooden traps? what even is w3 alchemy? i barely see any bubbles for world 3. when i get a vial, i see it as 7% damage for my bubo, and i don't really know whats worth it to upgrade or not. if printing monster mats at where im at is bad, how do i get mats for refinery? and for construction, i thought i needed to level those towers so i could actually get somewhere in frosty firefight. sorry if im asking too much or being annoying or stupid, im just frustrated that ive been doing everything wrong for the past month and that i dont understand half the game.

[bleak gazelle]

just pick two things at a time and focus on those until you feel they're in a good spot

[ember spear]

Alchemy is king, go to Alchemy and click on the Pay To Win tab and spend your coins to max out the stuff there

[tender pine]

ive maxed out everything.

[ember spear]

that's a good start then

[tender pine]

but what is a good spot? what is the most important thing to start with?

[ember spear]

wait wait wait wait hold up. It seems like you don't know you can unlock new bubbles perhaps?

[bold quiver]

cant tell where to start, up to u hahaha

[ember spear]

There are I think 40 bubbles for each of the four colored cauldrons, and they require materials from each of the 5 worlds so far

[bleak gazelle]

Like just go top down if you want. Or start with alch/maestro

[sacred breach]

The first 3 bubbles are great to work on, but just go for whatever you think is good, and try to unlock more bubbles

[ember spear]

ok PHEW you've got a few at least but yeah you are missing a lot of crucial ones.

[opaque sun]

“maxed out everything”

[sacred breach]

Obviously w5 bubbles won't do much if you can't upgrade them

It's good to note that the second bubble is a huge buff for every other bubble

[tender pine]

what are the crucial ones?

[ember spear]

So tbh my big suggestion would be for you to take literally every character and sit them on the Divinity Altar (W5) until you unlock the Goat God, then Link everyone to Goat and sit in Lab (W4) until level 40 Divinity/50 Lab on all 10 characters.

Once you've got a good lab setup going you can link everyone to Bear God and you'll be able to make very fast progress in a lot of areas

[sacred breach]

That's what I did in w5 and it's a huge buff, but a lot of afk

Let's you get jump started on sailing too

[ember spear]

yeah it's a great time to set 2 hour traps and check in regularly for gaming/sailing/trapping/splicing

[tender pine]

5th one right? and how should i do divinity? when i unlocked nobisect i waited until i had enough for 100% but that feels like a waste of time.

[ember spear]

oh good you've already made some progress there. So heads up that you want to get everyone to at least 15 Divinity so that they can use Mantra while they're in the Lab later on. All ten characters doing Mantra is by far the best xp/hr available for Divinity even at the highest levels

But once you've gotten Mantra unlocked just use the style that gives you 4 Divinity points per hour (level 20 I think) and wait for the 100% roll.

[past thistle]

whats the best w5 bubo map

[ember spear]

To be clear the rolls you have only change when you make an offering, so taking the left roll until you see a 100% on the right is what you want to do

[ember spear]

probably whatever map you can 2-3 shot mobs with your poison on

[tender pine]

but now im confused what i should do? divinity, or anything else?

[opaque sun]

raising bubbles levels of not so crucial ones are just as important too if its an easy material as it always works towards to getting that bubble off the no bubbles left behind threshold

[silver comet]

Minmaxers hitting the integer limit for bubbles

[ember spear]

Well you want to start with the Divinity mostly because it gives you access to Goat, which lets you keep training Divinity while you also train the much more important Lab

[past thistle]

yeah thats all of them but whats the best one for cranium cookin

[ember spear]

Lategame, Divinity is AMAZEBALLS and will knock your socks off but for now Goat and Bear are the best things you're gonna have from Div for a while

[crimson gorge]

is there some sort of guide for sailing ? should i only be going to islands under 2 hours like IE advises, should i be sending everyone to the furthest island? should I be throwing a boat for each island that I can?

[past thistle]

is Tremor Wurm good for bubo farm? Just so im not wasting time at w4 jelly

[silver comet]

Yes

[past thistle]

thank u

[ember spear]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I have been trying to get to the end of W5 for so long lol

Still have over 2 million kills left on my BM for that final portal

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-jelly-bread-sandwich-toast-gif-25544652

[ember spear]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

Behold

[astral knoll]

skill sparkle obols are useless now?

[dry hare]

Yo how do I get better cogs I only get 400 cogs nothing better how do I get better ones

[opaque sun]

if you can get kattle obols, yeah they are usually better

[ember spear]

They're good but Drop Rate obols are generally considered to be better because it's harder to get DR

[fathom lagoon]

Does anyone know what effects giant mob rate?

[opaque sun]

But worship and trap skill obols still good i guess since they dont have an afk mechanic

[placid mural]

just the shrine i think

[fathom lagoon]

Right but some I have 1 in 1500 chance, some I have 1 in 700 chance

Not sure what effects the chances

[placid mural]

oooooh

every time you kill a giant the chances drop

(barring the big bubble that has a chance of not lowering the chance to spawn one)

[ember spear]

Yeah Sadokun has the right of it

[opaque sun]

5% afk gain of say current 300% afk is bigger impact than 16% dr of current 1500% dr

[fathom lagoon]

Gotcha gotcha okay

Finally getting around to doing the chizoar key quest on every char

[placid mural]

now its possible that if you are talking about one character has a different chance than another, its possible that you may not have the artifact that makes all shrines affect all characters on all worlds

[ember spear]

Actually yeah, are we sure Obols are additive and not multiplicative? Never seen that addressed but I would assume they add with each other and multiply with everything else. Otherwise they are even more worthless than I thought lol

[fathom lagoon]

That’s exactly what I’m talking about, like my vman had 1 in 740 chances on big mob nepteyune but my SB has 1 in 1400 rn. Both on same map, and I do have the Maui head as well as the lab node for shrines lit up

Weird tho

And wow just got one to spawn LOL

Omg now my bubo got 1 in 2.83k. Ah so the chances lowering is account wide not per char

That’s probably it

[ember spear]

mhm

resets weekly

[fathom lagoon]

Ah shit I was thinking it’d be daily

[ember spear]

that would be heccin op tbh

I like to do Giants with my Elemental Sorceror for maximum Drop Rate

[fathom lagoon]

Same just doing it for the quest line for keys

[ember spear]

ah yeah that one took me a couple weeks to get it done on everyone

[snow hamlet]

I have done a thing!

[ember spear]

truly bigly, ser

[serene solstice]

after almost 2h I am done with gaming...

[bold quiver]

ouch, chemical chains can be a pain

[serene solstice]

made like 70 chemicals progress on achievement tho

[bold quiver]

i save until T4 tier which is 16h

so i do 2 T4 and 1 log

[winter forge]

what class would be best for active for Death Note farming?

[placid mural]

ES or bubo