lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tacit tulip]

and a bit of kills from the KPK talent

[little burrow]

Okay thanks

[tacit tulip]

magma is better for skill sampling too

As a lazy boy I just made full kattle for everyone

now forcing them to do deathnote while I do other stuff 😄

Bubo

tenteye (skill cooldown decrease)
Poison/Aura
revive mobs
Cranium cooking (kills give alchemy time)
Purple bubble that buffs cranium cooking

[prisma drift]

I was pushing my roadkill to 100%

These last % are rough

I’m at level 243 atm and it’s like 10 levels per %

[forest hinge]

so bubo for short

thx

[tacit tulip]

obviously remember to put people in those cauldrons or the time gained from bubo won't do anthing 😄

[glass meadow]

howmuch chance % should you aim for when going for the last 3 ish bubbles in each cauldron?

[ocean fox]

For elephant divinity
When claiming non-candy AFK gains, also progress one of the following by the AFK time! (Refinery, 3D Printer, Cooking, Pet Breeding, Sailing, or Gaming)
What happens if I only claim 30 minute gains. Does it just make it impossible to proc 3d printing? It is my current understanding that 3d printing procs on the hour

[wary girder]

is this prayer a trap? shiny snitch

[ocean fox]

Nope, your shiny chance will boost tremoundously eventually and you will still have very high shiny chance to get those bundles
I would say try it out and see the difference

[wary girder]

wish I could see my shiny chance some where

also do I only need to activate this on my BM?

or do all chars need to for it to proc their traps

[ocean fox]

Just on BM

[wary girder]

cheers mate

[ocean fox]

Good timing since I just procced it myself and it gets kinda crazy
You never really need to worry about farming shinies

[wary girder]

yeah jesus LOL

[runic girder]

@charred panther

[tacit tulip]

If you visit the trap where it's actually placed you can see your shiny chance on collection

[wary girder]

best colo for cranium cooking?

[opaque sun]

none

cranium cooking in colo is a relic of the past

[wary girder]

best place to do it then?

other than w4 as my shaman aint super strong

[opaque sun]

tremor wurms

Like if in w5, get it to bubo for gods sake

[wary girder]

i mean bubo**

and im not to the end of w5 yet

only about half way through w5

so other than tremors

[opaque sun]

tremor wurms, oranges, floms in the order of priority

[granite grove]

if not ready for w5 active (cloud 1 tick kills) then flombeige in w4

[random saddle]

Should i use kettle armor stone on magma?

[opaque sun]

tentelcle cd reduction works on cranium cooking, so no reason to do it in colo when you can leave active to fill liquids

[random saddle]

Or the fail is not worth it

[wary girder]

ty boys

[opaque sun]

You can use boss stones on magma and if it fails, just turn that into divine gear

If it goes well, you got a good skilling magma

[random saddle]

I see

Ty

But for divine just dont risk it?

[opaque sun]

On average, 68% success doesnt breakeven on your favor

[random saddle]

Okok ty

Still struggling get last char to kettle and its bm

[signal osprey]

On immortal snail, if I get a 90 % success chance and "if it fails", a 10 % reset risk, does ist actually mean a 1 % risk of reset (10 % x 10 %) or just a 10 % risk?

[tacit tulip]

believe it's 1% but I was late to the party with snail, so it's not in my memory banks

would be good to get a second opinion 😄

[frosty pike]

someone made a sheet at some point for calculating that chance for each level

[elder osprey]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yz9rRDFCfBYn4UKOBs9fYBKBjaoapiS-e_HjLjSdDHE/edit?usp=sharing

[frosty pike]

in tips and tricks

[signal osprey]

Thanks a lot, so it's combined risk (1 %), nice!

[patent hatch]

messa want patch!!

[tacit tulip]

soooon

[glass meadow]

my current traps, is there anything I'm missing besides blobfish? And I plan to change penquins into more frogs once I get the salt lick for it complete. I think I covered all bases but I might be forgetting something.

[warm beacon]

You don’t have any owl traps

[glass meadow]

what are owls used for? I'm completely blanking

[inland gyro]

green material cost reduction bubble

[warm beacon]

One alchemy bubble

[barren otter]

a green stack...

:)

[warm beacon]

Also that yeah

[glass meadow]

ah yes ofcourse. thanks, guess I'll switch penquin into owl then once I'm done with it. And yeah I meant besides greenstack will greenstack them all at one point.

[limber mason]

seems like the 30% all afk gains divinity makes active play pointless, what do I active then?

[worthy mortar]

Bubo & DK Farming / ES-Farming

[limber mason]

maybe ES farming, since my DK is pushing world 5 still. What about my Maestro?
Here's my IE https://zephyrind.idleonefficiency.com

[worthy mortar]

DK is best for rare Things like W5 Boss Key, ES for mob-drops for vials & alch

You can active Maestro till you maxed the crystal exp reduction and then skill

[limber mason]

Still at like world 5 stage 5, and the accuracy scaling is making my DK useless atm.

[glass meadow]

from what I see you kind of rushed to W5, which is something you can do but once you reach W5 you should be building up other things before pushing more maps into W5. Otherwise you'll just keep hitting wall after wall.

[limber mason]

Used some candies while pushing, but still have plenty left over. Any suggestions on what I should be building up?

[glass meadow]

alchemy for sure needs a lot of love, stamps are way behind and lab + divinity for all characters

start on div to get goat and then lvl up div and lab together

will be a boring process but it's neccesary and once it's done you can safely ignore it from then on.

[limber mason]

I see, I'll see what I can do for Alchemy. It's just so expensive and time consuming.

[glass meadow]

alchemy gets easier and easier later on, but you do need to keep up the important parts of it to even allow your characters to push without relying on food

oh and just checked, you might want to work on getting W1-3 constellations finished.

[limber mason]

ah yes...constellations...

[glass meadow]

boost may seem small, but it adds up and the later star signs + unlocking 3rd slot helps a lot. And you'll be getting infinite star signs soon which will allow for even more gains.

[scenic locust]

What is "scaled skill efficiency"?

[cinder birch]

its kind of like a catch up mechanic the less eff you get from other sources the bigger the bonus you get from this.

[scenic locust]

Weird

[pallid forum]

help

[granite grove]

kinda really strong for cooking and lab, i noticed my ES having 8k cooking eff despite not having any related bonus on with nobisect god blessing lv30

[tacit tulip]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[pallid forum]

thanks man

[manic seal]

!merit3

[obtuse orbit]

Put 1 point in Telekinetic Storage.
General path: Max Respawn rate --> Talent books --> Sample size.

If you only have 2 food slots, put 2 points in the build/food merit after Respawn rate, otherwise max it after Sample size.
Put 1 point into the salt merit. If you want to push refinery ranks, put points in as applicable. Otherwise, after Sample size.
Max Telekinetic Storage after everything else.

[pallid forum]

!merit4

[obtuse orbit]

No bubble left behind - As soon as you reach nblb in lab, drop all other merits and start buying this one. Until then, pretend it doesn't exist.
(1) One purchase into Spice Pillage so you don't feel as forced to manually collect spices.

1. Max out the eggs so you don't have to log on as often to use them.
2. Get Mob Respawn maxed out to allow you to push the maps faster.
3. Connection range merit doesn't give much, but it will make it alot easier to find good spots for your characters to be in lab.
   (Note: Connection Range is the range from characters to nodes/jewels. Line Width is only between character to character.)
4. Troll armor is miles better than Diabolical armor. If you do not have enough nullo salt production, you can get spice pillage maxed instead.
5. Max out Spice Pillage. Having the talent at level 100 gives it 100% chance to proc.
6. Since three crystals daily is next to nothing, get this one last.

[ancient quail]

Anyone know why the antifun blessing doesn't work? It says: use 9 minigame attempts for +700% rewards

It worked the first time, but yesterday and today it doesn't work, it is active in the afk window

relogging helped

[tacit tulip]

I've never really used it so can't help there

[vagrant mountain]

these are all the yellow bubbles right? what happens if I keep going?

[glass meadow]

this team capable of getting all spices or do I need to get higher pet power? it's hard to tell if I'm dying to rng or low power

[sick sentinel]

Thata all the released ones rn ye, you can pre u lock the next ones

I think i have all the next worlds bubbles already unlocked

[vagrant mountain]

oh ty, how many of them are there?

[teal lynx]

I personally did refiller, shield, refiller and timed the first shield. After that you should be good with Monolithic + Shield. From right to left. Refill, Shield. Refill, Mono, Bone, Sandy Pot (idk how those are called again)

[vagrant mountain]

i wanna brew everything and put em on liquids and sigils

[sick sentinel]

Should be 5

[tacit tulip]

there's a bit more RNG involved when you have a looter on the team, if it procs alchemical at a poor time you'll lose your frontline (And the run)

Looter does speed things up considerably tho

for example, it's possible to do the last battle with only 5 😉

[surreal oxide]

is w5 bubo crystal farming a good way to farm dice obols?

[sick sentinel]

Only w2 crystals drop dice

W4 and w5 ones dont drop obols

[sharp wind]

so only w6 bubble is unlockable? w7 w8 bubble doesnt exist for now?

[sharp wind]

assuming every 5 bubble is from each world

[tacit tulip]

it's possible alchemy will stop at w6 too

unlikely, but possible

[sharp wind]

so for now we can pre unlock 5 bubble?

[sacred verge]

can we pre unlock bubbles?

wtf

[tacit tulip]

yup!

[sacred verge]

does it take alot of CC to get that done ?

[tacit tulip]

Less than you'd think

end game CC now is multiple days worth of alchemy per proc

[grim torrent]

Wasn't alchemy supposed to stop at W4 for a bit

[sacred verge]

yeah great, imma have my bubo on cauldrons when i CC then

[tacit tulip]

I actually have no idea tbh

Some skills will definitely end - there's no room for more construction buildings for example

so we won't expect new one in w6

[sacred verge]

how far do you guys push this shit?

[sharp wind]

time to use this again i guess

[tacit tulip]

lab will probably get new nodes/gems at some point but beyond that, it'll be the same it always is

[grim torrent]

I remember some people saying that there would be no more bubbles after W4 and that future alchemy content would only add to what was there

Then again my memory is also very unreliable so I could just be making this up

[tacit tulip]

mining only has one more node in the code (godshard), nothing to stop lava adding more, but that might be the end of mining.

probably get more, given how many ores there were in skilling

[sacred verge]

one can only hope

[grim torrent]

Isn't there 2 or so more unaccessible areas on the map plus the secret area in the place with iron and gold. I have a feeling more will be added

[sick sentinel]

Pretty sure you can just keep unlocking, the requirement and chance will just keep getting harder so wouldnt be worth to focus on

[sacred verge]

what skills are missing in idleon that was in IS?

[tacit tulip]

very good point.

Botany is probably the big one we're still missing

tho that's effectively covered by cooking

[wide bolt]

!fishchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by TrazCS#7476

[sacred verge]

botany i can do without lo

lol

[tacit tulip]

Most of the skills in skilling are used in idleon but inder a different skin

Spelunking is just sailing, for example

[grim torrent]

Realm, botany, farming, spelunking, the portal one of the top of my head

[grim torrent]

Yeah true

[tacit tulip]

Realm is similar to rift

[grim torrent]

Yeah kinda

[sacred verge]

i would say spelunking is a bit construction aswell tho

[sharp wind]

well i guess better unlock them when a new bubble comes out

[grim torrent]

The construction part is the construction skill

[tacit tulip]

yeah that's my plan. Let w6 come out, stick bubo on wurms,get new bubbles

I'd be interested in seeing if we get a training skill, place a character in a map doing a thing to increase that stat

[sacred verge]

id be interesting to get rebirth, lol

[tacit tulip]

now that I never wanna see 😄

[sacred verge]

the possibility to rebirth a char for example would be a funny concept

keep the insane rng stuff like sailing, gaming etc but a rebirth concept for great rewards might not be too bad

[tacit tulip]

maybe that'll be imans functionality

[sacred verge]

depends alot on how it would be implemented tho

[grim torrent]

Oh yeah, how did I forget the 1st 3. Probably won't happen as stats are more tied to skills

[analog hemlock]

New chars are basically rebirths

[grim torrent]

For the 3rd time in this server. Please no

[fathom lagoon]

Woooo just unlocked vman

[grim torrent]

Nice

[sacred verge]

new chars are not rebirths lol

[analog hemlock]

Basically are

[sacred verge]

basically not

how come a new char be a rebirth... you keep your old one and you just get one more to play with

[fathom lagoon]

“Nuh uh”

[analog hemlock]

Figure it out

[grim torrent]

The only way rebirths would work in Idleon is in a skill built around rebirths (like rift in IS)

[sacred verge]

rebirth means some sort of reset/setback etc

[fathom lagoon]

Now to put everyone in the lab until I figure out my next step/how to build my vman lol

[analog hemlock]

Does new char not start put lv 1

Out*

[grim torrent]

A rebirth needs to be added to a system built for a rebirth system not chucked on top of a game where some people have played for years

[viral snow]

Make companions rebirth

[grim torrent]

Could you imagine having to spend 2 or so years to get back to where you were between rebirths in IS

[sacred verge]

im not saying rebirth would be a great idea or anything. idk. but it would be something forexample reset lvl, talents etc and you need to grind up trough the worlds again on set char (just like on a new char). then the char gets a bonus from it like more stats, more dmg etc etc

would help keep stuff interesting in the long run

[prisma lance]

Guys what are the best cards comp for w5 boss key farming?

[sacred verge]

maybe different types of rebirth. skill rebirth. lvl rebirth etc

its a lot of "content" for less effort

[sweet mountain]

Okay. There's something weird. I'm farming double sixes. I usually get like 10-12 a day. I farmed for the last 7 hours and got zero. I have the usual build for it, with crystal mob cards and drops. My dr is 9x.... could there be something wrong or I was just THAT unlucky? (I even double checked to see if I have filtered the drop, but no, not in the list).

[viral snow]

Rebirth mechanic is an essential mechanic in most idle games
But I couldnt think of a great way to implement it
But I also only thought about for like 20sec 😂

[sacred verge]

i do believe its possible

[viral snow]

Possible sure
But necessary? Idk
I think there are better ways to add content and progression

[plush spear]

It is possible but will be less fun

[grim torrent]

Just trust me as someone who's talked about this 3 times now, it doesn't fit in Idleon now unless it was only for a small aspect or a single new skill that had rebirths in mind

[viral snow]

Atleast atm

[sacred verge]

im not saying we need it. just saying it could be implemented

[viral snow]

Thats what I was trying to say tho 😂
I could see it implemented with a new skill etc but not just dumped on top of existing the mechanics

[plush spear]

It could but the player of this game will be dropped so much cos how lame it is

[sacred verge]

lame or not depends on how it would work

[viral snow]

I mean vmans speedrun is kind of a rebirth

[plush spear]

Like i said it will work lmfao

[viral snow]

Just a temporary

[tacit pewter]

may or may not be a hot take idk, but i like this game alot in part because it DOESNT have a rebirth system. i dont stick long with ones that do

[sacred verge]

we dont know how the game looks like in w6-7-8

[plush spear]

See? Thats why people keep playing the game

[sacred verge]

also GT would make lvling up soo easy its almost dumb

[grim torrent]

If a rebirth system is in a game it's very important that it's established early

[viral snow]

Usually its fun for 2-3 times
Then it just gets boring

[sacred verge]

nobody said it would be an infinite rebirth mechanic

maybe only 1 or a few rebirths

[prisma lance]

Maybe for a future job, not for the entire idleon, for sure

[warped grail]

that remembers me of ragnarok online

when you upgraded the class , you rebirth from level 1

[kind geyser]

When speed running is it better to go for the nightmare version of the boss ?

[tacit tulip]

assuming you can kill it fast yeah

[kind geyser]

And does the extra respawn chance from vman talent applies to every version of the boss or just the boss in general?

[tacit tulip]

a nm boss counts as 3 portals

[kind geyser]

Like, if I kill the 3 versions of amarok does that gives 3 stack ?

[tacit tulip]

For sampling people mentioned only killing the normal boss so I'd guess the respawn is only one per boss

[kind geyser]

I see, thanks for the tips yesterday I got my max lvl talent to 210

Some luck got involved in sailing

But my bubo now it's going turbo with tentacleye lvl200

[sharp wind]

magma armor better for afk or active?

[frigid acorn]

7k GT still

[frail mauve]

how dafuq

[opaque sun]

Its actually common to get it 10k+

[frail mauve]

excuse me but wtf

[teal lynx]

Bubo with Cranimum Cooking. Late Game u get Days of Alchemy Progress in 20/30 min

[frail mauve]

I got about 80k seconds atm

Could you see if i am missing anything important? https://renbrian.idleonefficiency.com/

[tough tusk]

not really cus it means you need to stand every 10 minutes to do your cranium cooking clicker and its becoming annoying very fast

[tacit tulip]

I just keep the bubble open on a spare screen and click it whenever it's available

[tough tusk]

you should get every meal to 11 you have some that you dont bother since their bonuses are bad but its worth upgrading them to 11 to get more cooking spd

[frail mauve]

Will do now

[tough tusk]

my memory and concentration are bad so its hard for me to do it

[twilit goblet]

is bubo actually a decent pen farmer as well? noticed im getting some pens from the crystal spawns while farming CC, a lot less obols compared to DK tho

[teal lynx]

Assuming u mean for good Cranium Cooking. Lvl 200 Tenteyecle and higher Cranium Cooking. Choco Chip + One hitting mobs is key to good Cranium Cooking

[opaque sun]

you can click like every few hours than 10 min. Like you should be using the liquid capacity lab node

[frigid sundial]

Easiest way to upgrade liquid regeneration speed?

[twilit goblet]

and i really really need this 1 point from somewhere

[frail mauve]

Alright i am missing choco on my bubo

[teal lynx]

U can just switch your Choco, when doing active CC

[prisma lance]

Highest level trap, highest level critter

[frail mauve]

I got level 200 ten and 200 cooking skill, roadkill is 165

[opaque sun]

Alternatively, you can have your little brother click on grind time all through the night while you sleep

[frail mauve]

What cards should i use for cranium cooking? crystal chance?

[prisma lance]

You put the Ratt frontline? Suicide man

[gentle furnace]

Get max book

[sharp wind]

does goharut minor link bonus stack?

[sacred verge]

how high is ur guys liquid cap?

[twilit goblet]

yea about 3k more blue salt to get last level of salt lick

[teal lynx]

Crystal + Damage Card if needed. I am no expert so I am not sure if there are better cards

[twilit goblet]

after lab node

[frail mauve]

Thank you for all the help 😄

[frigid sundial]

I have 200 tenteyecle, chocolate chip and can 1 shot floms with 1 tick of poison. Main bottleneck for liquid is my regen speed. With characters in cauldrons I get 12/hr

[sacred verge]

thats poor regen

i get 13 without any1 in cauldrons and lab node on

[frigid sundial]

Tips on upgrading?

[frigid sundial]

Ty for help!

[gentle furnace]

Stamps, decant level

[sacred verge]

uppgrade cauldrons

salt lick aswell

[sacred verge]

when should i stop decanting? how far is it worth pushing it?

[frigid sundial]

Oh lord I somehow forgot to do that

Noob question, what's decant?

[sacred verge]

the picture i send, spending water on those uppgrades

[gentle furnace]

im pushing to 200

[frigid sundial]

Gotcha

[sacred verge]

is that without ppl in cauldrons?

[gentle furnace]

only 1 ppl in first cauldron

[sacred verge]

nice

thats some dream stats for me, lol

i guess you have been CC quite a bit

what lvl alch is ur bobu?

would be funny to know

[gentle furnace]

133

[sacred verge]

expected more

not bad tho

im assuming the exp needed gets insane

[modern plaza]

so Jaegar has the lab alchemy bonus active which gives a flat out 5x increase in water storage

but the rates are really high tbh 😄

[cyan hazel]

Did you mean alchemy or lab?

[modern plaza]

both haha ty ❤️

[fathom lagoon]

Anyone got a vman build for a lvl 150 vman who hasn’t done a speedrun yet?

[hollow wasp]

woah, i get 20 ladles/h, i know thats rookie numbers compared to you guys but i think this is pretty good for someone who just started kitchening

eh

20/d

[fathom lagoon]

How do you get those? You gotta be actually afking in the kitchen? And I’m assuming on your BB?

Legit all my chars are cooking lvl 1

[hollow wasp]

BB yes. my cooking is lvl 3 now. i get 105/h xp.

and ye afk in kitchen

[fathom lagoon]

I heard it’s worth using green balloons for cooking xp

But damn 20 ladles a day at lvl 3 that’s pretty sweet

[lost beacon]

Thats my grind for the day!

[hollow wasp]

is it? i have some balloons, idk what a higher cooking lvl does

[fathom lagoon]

Vman build anyone

[hollow wasp]

i only have maestro

[tacit tulip]

the first couple of runs are just you getting used to things. Level the chess talent in Mman as far as you can for extra points.

Skill 1: More time for the run = more portals opened
Skill 2: Big aoe attack+ multikill. Good for clearing big or hard maps = more portals
skill 3: Bosses count as portals, respawn speed. probably 1 point in this at first for the portals

Otherwise, you want damage, multikill, and speed to optimise your run

[hollow wasp]

is there an kitchen optimization btw? idk i have 1 kitchen ring and boots, and thats all lol

[crisp silo]

my brother put some points into maestro talent 'one step ahead'

then you know, do a speed run

[fathom lagoon]

Thank you!!

[tacit tulip]

Kitchen rings until you get enough eff where the skill eff rings eventually overtake their effectiveness

There's a stamp that uses the shark fish to level up which is your main source of cooking eff

[hollow wasp]

ehhh let me check i might have it

[hollow wasp]

only have this

[tacit tulip]

that ones nice too, as it's general speed

[hollow wasp]

ladle stamp, lemme check how i get this

[tacit tulip]

pretty sure it's just the cooking piggy in w4

[hollow wasp]

oh the oiinkin

he wants me to do pet stuff

.<

[tacit tulip]

you'll want to double check you don't already have those levels

it only updates when you upgrade something

[hollow wasp]

i dont

[tacit tulip]

ahh kk

[tacit tulip]

the last quest is just "have croissants unlocked"

[hollow wasp]

this doesnt count it seems

[tacit tulip]

it only updates when you upgrade something on that character

[hollow wasp]

oh aight

[tacit tulip]

so if you get egg to 2 it'll update both

[hollow wasp]

so i just need some more cakes and im fine

idk, laddles generate stuff made in kitchen, right?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, it's a time candy for cooking

+1 hour, and a bit more if you use BB

[hollow wasp]

ye my BB has +70% or smth

[tacit tulip]

so yeah, the ladle stamp increases your cooking eff, which makes you generate more ladles

[hollow wasp]

i got 135 laddles

[tacit tulip]

I don't have my talent/cards set up on my phone so it's lower than it should be

[hollow wasp]

are there cooking cards?

[tacit tulip]

nah but you use the general afk%/eff ones

Rabbit, amarok, Ctroll

[granite grove]

also big purple mush for cooking exp %

[prime lynx]

Yes

[hollow wasp]

i only have this as usefull i guess

oh

ye 24% cooking xp gain

[granite grove]

boop boosts fight afk, not skill afk

[tacit tulip]

It's the rabbit from trapping for skill afk

[hollow wasp]

i have it like this then

i dont have the rabbit yet

[hollow wasp]

ur right

[granite grove]

also since you are at w4, amarok should be easy now so go farm 3* or 4 star for normal afk 10/12.5%

[hollow wasp]

wich what char should i farm amarok? also chaotic or regulkar?

[granite grove]

any, ideally the one with highest DR stat, normal for skill afk, chaotic for fight afk

[tacit tulip]

Regular for the skilling card. mman is generally advised as he has the highest natural drop rate

[hollow wasp]

i got 186 w1 boss keys

highest DR is ES for now.

oh ye maestro would work. he is hella low lvl but he would work

[leaden karma]

do shiny pets need to be in the fenceyard for the buff/bonus to work?

[granite grove]

just 25k HP so maestro at ur lvl can oneshot it

[tacit tulip]

they need to be placed in the fenceyard once for them to unlock, after that they're always active

[granite grove]

no, fenceyard is just for leveling

[hollow wasp]

so i just do it with my naked maestro? xd

[leaden karma]

ohhh ok tnx!

[granite grove]

if it can one/two shot then sure, it still works

[tacit tulip]

Ye, make sure you have points in the talents that increase card drop rate

as he has a unique one

[hollow wasp]

ye i do

[granite grove]

should be good for boss farming, also if its a 2nd preset, could consider using -dmg +DR talent for some boss farming

[hollow wasp]

this one

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, it looks scarier than it is

[granite grove]

also level double punch at least lv1, the 2nd punch does minimum 25% already which is a nice dmg boost at lv1

[kind geyser]

Does it mean u have the 4th Liquid cauldron?

[hollow wasp]

ye its 33 now. bcs the op pet

[tacit tulip]

Ah you have slug, jealous

[hollow wasp]

ye i have all but doot

[fathom lagoon]

Is this your dmg build ?

[hollow wasp]

no skilling build

or afk build, whatever

i didnt mess with that char yet, its my lowest of all

even the char i created today is in a higher lvl (my 10th slot)

[fathom lagoon]

Yea mman will be your lowest dmg char for sure lol

[inland gyro]

does happy dude from vman's first tree not effect construction and alch exp ?

[placid mural]

Update pending on steam in beta

[hollow wasp]

for cards i want card drop% aswell?

[fathom lagoon]

Fr Fr?

[placid mural]

Double check me

[hollow wasp]

do i just do it like this for amarok?

[placid mural]

Looks like in beta since last night

[fathom lagoon]

I don’t have steam to check unfortunately

Noiceee

[gentle furnace]

yes

[hollow wasp]

i get 2 cards per amarok, seems fine

i have auto on and i just cliick on the key top left and do a few runs

[tacit tulip]

yep, that's how you do it 🙂

if you wanna do it on ephaunt just use ES lol

[hollow wasp]

cool silver pen 🙂

[tacit tulip]

walking hard for mman

[hollow wasp]

idk if i blacklist nomwich and sausages, they kinda fill my invent

or i just get a bigger pouch xd

lol, is this trash or is it actually usefull

[paper sail]

It was semi neat back at 35

Garbage if you're already in w5

[hollow wasp]

kk, ye i am

[fathom lagoon]

I got that hat in my first amarok run ever

Thought it was so good lmao

[paper sail]

Do not filter our hotdogs btw

[fathom lagoon]

If you got ram pet just deposit all in storage

[paper sail]

They make peanuts, then gold peanuts for mining samples

[modern plaza]

wtf i had a dream about the update lol…

[hollow wasp]

ye im doing that rn ^^

[fathom lagoon]

Bro gotta touch grass

Dreaming about idleon

[modern plaza]

no i was with my gf all day yesterday, so maybe i need to touch keyboard

[hollow wasp]

got it

16 runs

got 3 keys back

[marble pagoda]

did the bits calculation get revamped?

[fathom lagoon]

I like seeing your updates cause you’re around where I am account wise

[marble pagoda]

earlier today i was getting alot more per plant, or did i accidentally turn off smth

[modern plaza]

haha it was a few seconds, and omg it was such a complex system added but it all made sense and i really liked it. kinda like alchemy depth. basically all stats had another layer of bonuses added

[hollow wasp]

ehh i have really no idea, it feels like i could be so much faster but i have no idea what im doing. LOL

[fathom lagoon]

For 2 DK’s, use one to pump bits % gain and one to pump gaming exp % right? Since they dont stack?

[fathom lagoon]

Dude same so I appreciate some of the questions you ask cause it’s relevant for me too haha

[modern plaza]

usually when you dont switch to DK talents

[fathom lagoon]

Wonder what it’s going to be lol

[hollow wasp]

haha, i ask way to many questions tbh

[fathom lagoon]

That’s what the community is for

[modern plaza]

and there were like decks on decks where you could apply certain enchants to items

was pretty sick in terms of item customization. maybe enchanting comes inw6+

[hollow wasp]

what i do rn is i just lvl my chars over time a little and i push with my ES quite a bit

[modern plaza]

yeah this is def one of the advantages of having 2 dks. once characters get to lvl 500ish. can do everything in 1 spec haha 😂 except t4 tab still a bit challenging to max

[fathom lagoon]

Same w 2 SB’s and the sailing buffs lol

[fathom lagoon]

Oof I don’t miss being in div jail

[hollow wasp]

i have 4 divs unlocked yet xd

[modern plaza]

but you don’t really use sailing chest loot talent right now 😦

[hollow wasp]

idk, do i?

is it beast master? xd

[marble pagoda]

oh yes thanks so much i took dk off lab

[hollow wasp]

ye im at the quest "discover the recipe for croissants"

for laddle stamp

[placid mural]

im resampling today. . . i hate resampling

[vocal ibex]

I know it's a world 3 skill but I need help someone around my level or way higher if possible for help on construction.

[frigid acorn]

bob

[vocal ibex]

That's where I'm sitting at and I think it's terrible

[true obsidian]

Let's goooooooo

[placid mural]

bottom middle

[vocal ibex]

Grats

[placid mural]

raz, initially focus on last couple flags, then switch everything over to EXP% over everything else

and keep in mind with directional bonus' the "flaggy rate" hits your heroes, the "speed to flags" hits the actual flags

[vocal ibex]

I have mostly xp right now

Should I remove stuff and add flaggy

[placid mural]

dont delete but, i would until you unlock the last spot

Eventually you want to look something like this

the only ones i have below 80% exp are the directional cogs

[vocal ibex]

Cam I get a link to your profile

[frigid acorn]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/
if you dont know how to arrange cog

[vocal ibex]

I wanna check it out and click indivisible ones

[gusty steeple]

For Vman sampling, the idea is to get as far as possible in the rift (bosses and such) and then rapidly switch to your afk fight cards/stars/gear and sample your chosen mobs while your Void Radius skill is active?

[placid mural]

https://sadokun92.idleonefficiency.com

[vocal ibex]

Ty for constitution help

[placid mural]

when i try cogtimizer it doesnt pull up my current cogs. . .

[vocal ibex]

All good

[placid mural]

how do i get cogtimizer to pull up my current cogs?

[lunar axle]

So I have 7 eclipse skulls but the damage bonus only shows 20% does anyone know why? Is the rift eclipse skull bonus broken?

Sorry 8 skulls. Shouldn't the bonus be 40% and not 20

[quasi bear]

Save to cloud and restart

And check again

[lunar axle]

Wth....it fixed it but when I went to cloud save I was 5 hours afk....-.-

I hate this desync stuff

[fathom lagoon]

Damn rift slug doesn’t work w vman skills? 😢

[lost beacon]

Some

[vernal iris]

sounds like free 5 hours of afk

[tacit tulip]

most of vman skills are immune to +talents

ES/bear doesn't work on them either

[sleek fulcrum]

Anyone have a ballpark damage threshold for rift 27, 60 portal kills with ES?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea seems like it’s just the first few that works

[prisma drift]

More like week

Time for BIG DK

[placid mural]

is anyone front loading their brew progress for eventual W6 bubbles?

[vocal ibex]

Where do I find my username ?

[placid mural]

your character

[vocal ibex]

It's asking for my username

[placid mural]

1st character

[vocal ibex]

MMMMM

let me try

[placid mural]

make sure you update IE and give it about 2 hours, otherwise it wont have your updated cogs

[vocal ibex]

It workedddd

It livessss

I gotta do this at home though It messed up on my phone

That's amazing thank you I been sleeping on grins

Gains

[runic girder]

Yeh it doesnt like phones, gotta use a laptop or computer

[hollow wasp]

curved monitor?

[placid mural]

yes lol

[hollow wasp]

but why dont u do a printscreen

Win + Shift + S

then CTRL + V in chat

[unkempt quest]

or alt+printscreen

and paste

[placid mural]

HOLY SHIT

[placid mural]

THATS SO MUCH EASIER

[hollow wasp]

ofc it is

if your on a computer, why would u use discord mobile to post pictures T_T

[unkempt quest]

taking pictures with your phone is so 2004

[placid mural]

deadass didnt know you could do that

[hollow wasp]

now you know

[placid mural]

thank you!

[hollow wasp]

this makes 5€

can pay in green gems. lol

is it possible that archers are so much weaker overall other classes? paper damage

[placid mural]

omg

its so nice

lol

[hollow wasp]

you did it

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-winning-gif-14332927

[forest hinge]

what do you guys think 2 bubos or es

[gentle furnace]

es definitely

[forest hinge]

ok

2dk or 2 bb

[gentle furnace]

dk

[forest hinge]

thank you

[gentle furnace]

but if you want to get super chow bonus later its better to get 2 bb first then swap to dk

[forest hinge]

the thing is i have 2 bc and one es and 2 dk and 1 bb
and i have one switch stone so

[unkempt quest]

is that checked on a warrior?

[gentle furnace]

switch to es first

[forest hinge]

yep

will do right now

[coral goblet]

is double es still prio over bb if you have doot?

[sick sentinel]

Bettwr worship and afk kills with es anyway

[forest hinge]

this is the one right i keep pressing and nothing

do i need to do anything

[sick sentinel]

Cant use that one

Thats for it they dont have elite class

There was a gemshop eliter class swap that was orange

[forest hinge]

what

[unkempt quest]

There was a gemshop eliter class swap that was orange

[forest hinge]

opps

[tacit tulip]

it only shows up it he fomo shop

[forest hinge]

i bought this one for nothing

[tacit tulip]

so currently not available

drop it and pick it up again for slab 🙂

[forest hinge]

😦

[pearl quail]

Anyone who has S or P at the start of their character name😭

[fallow pawn]

is there a bug related to super chow? i have 20 mob types at 100m+ and only 19 super chows

[hollow wasp]

i have no idea what my priority is rn. i make my 10th char to SB rn, idk if its what i want but thats what i do xd

[gentle furnace]

are they all killed by BB?

[fallow pawn]

card menu says 100m+ it only shows from the BB, right? @gentle furnace

[gentle furnace]

if its from card then yes its from that char only

[fallow pawn]

hmm, thats annoying, i guess im going to candy one more time on those very close to 100m

[near mist]

When does the 5th ring with a lot of 'stats' and 'all stats' become better then the % total damage ring from dungeons

[hoary light]

can you complete afk here star signs by using time candy?

[fallow pawn]

nevermind, im stupid, i just counted all cards and also counted the crystal card @gentle furnace

[gentle furnace]

if the time candy exceeds the time needed for the constellation then yes

[hoary light]

nice thanks

[hollow wasp]

clearing portals with bowman is so pain

[tacit tulip]

IF you have two BB's, there's a bug where only the second BB counts. This might be your issue

[fallow pawn]

nah, already found out i counted the crystal card while counting, im using my second bb for that other issue already @tacit tulip

[tacit tulip]

ahh

[graceful gorge]

Whats the best map for Farm statues on W2?

[twin aurora]

kanjuurou it's only count on your lastest BB for whatever reason ( for the super chow )

[tacit tulip]

DK on sandpots

[elder osprey]

i like sand pots for it and get obols to

[worldly lichen]

Is elite class swap token unavailable at the moment?

[frail mauve]

Snelbies, the last map

[royal sierra]

finally... it took ages

gonna keep suffering now trying to get ancient

[mild wadi]

68 bottled winds (with 50 chests per round) and I got 1 base lvl artifact, no golden or eldritch.
Feels worse than pets lol

[gentle furnace]

what level is your dk?

[placid mural]

366 construction lvl

i just completely revamped my cog board over the last 2 weeks so they are both leveling faast

[runic girder]

So im redoing samples rn which messes up a lot of my god links so im just gonna reset all but when i do im wondering at what point you swap out goat for harriep? I have all the functional gods and only missing the kattle and badger god now

[dapper prism]

What div level are all your alts?

Like, all 40+ ?

[runic girder]

66, 57, 63, 61, 52, 59, 76, 30, 65, 73

[runic girder]

Basically

[dapper prism]

And your sample for oak is =

[runic girder]

46, 56 and 41m

On my 3 mages

[dapper prism]

Do you already have 200 tente? since bunnies also help great with money (active CC, although now also active DK at wurms if you're getting ~700+ orbs)

[runic girder]

Not yet

Man been typing for 6 minutes, this gonna be good

[dapper prism]

Lol had to afk for a sec xD

[dapper prism]

Honestly guess either way you could:

• Harriep will help you get atoms faster and also money. Although money mainly becomes a thing once you Active Bubo CC (lvl 200+ tente) or later DK (like 700+ Orb stacks at wurm).
  Atoms are great, especially if you can/want to use Boron (atom upgrades) on certain bubbles (like Larry) which will cost 1.43k/attempt once at 1b. But even earlier well worth it when its cheaper, getting those daily attempts in.

• Alternative is also Omni, Omni procs will help you get sailing/refinery a lot faster if you're still working on stuff (like fury) or timegated by the salts for gear like troll/magma.

Either option will most likely be better than goat right now, Toss on tranqi to get those other chars to 40+ and that 76 may even hit 80, which will make pts a lot easier once you go back for the last two gods. They are both decent for the blessing but the gaming/atom cost is really high. So either bunny or Omni on most imo.

PS: I'd def toss on bunny for a little, especially since you have 2 weekly unlinks. Those quick atoms for a few days or longer will help.

[fathom lagoon]

Trickz Goated

[runic girder]

Whats the lvl 80 ‘stats’

[atomic kiln]

i have a update from lava

there is no update

😄

[fathom lagoon]

[dapper prism]

I mean Lvl 80 div. 15 pts+ 10xp/h (60 was 8 pts+xp/h)

[runic girder]

So just better in every way, perfect

[hardy shale]

is it worth it to farm more than 2 lab rings? or just go for higher xp zone

[dapper prism]

I mean if you arnt on goat you set them to TranQi which is the passive XP even when not on divinity. So theyll hit those lvl breakpoints for when you go back and will be getting a lot more pts/h

[runic girder]

Just that with tranqi it takes 10 years

[pulsar cliff]

It really isn't that bad.

[runic girder]

It is if your xp multiplier is like 15x only

[teal lynx]

Just activated Doot Portal and forgot to pick up my Eyes. 10 Days of waiting lost right there

[pulsar cliff]

Most of my guys are getting to near level 100 with Tranqi

[dapper prism]

lvl 76 to 80 is roughly 43.9k xp. you got this xD

[runic girder]

Slow and steady wins the race

So harriep/omniphau for lab characters then mantis for characters im pushing maps on?

[fiery plume]

I thinking about switching from 2 BB to 2 DK. My thoughts are better construction and I can stack super chows on my primary BB
I currently have:
2 BB
1 DK
2 Bubo
2 ES
1 BM
1 SB
1 Vman

Thoughts?

[runic girder]

Why 4 mages

[modern plaza]

We did it 😄

[dapper prism]

I mean, the meta is 2 DK over 2 BB either way. So probably yeh.

[fiery plume]

Couldn't tell you why I have 4 mages lol

[modern plaza]

i could

[dapper prism]

Alternatives are
Bear on Bubo if it can help you hit 200+ tente for CC
Nobi is useful to push to last zone on Bubo, DK. Or for chow on BB
Remember to have tiger on at least 1 char.

Another fun thing to do some day/time is to toss on Flutter bird for a few days while leveling up your alts skills for family levels (rift 16), and getting all those low stuff up a bit. The pearls will help a bunch with fishing and coooking.

[elder osprey]

or go the easy way and buy Doot pet

[runic girder]

Tried that and didnt work out

[lunar reef]

Doot go brr

[runic girder]

Flutterbird gives skill xp as minor right

[unkempt quest]

can't wait till we get 400 max talent level for 4 second cd on tenteycle

[modern plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/math-hangover-movie-the-alan-gif-13330243

Without Doot

https://tenor.com/view/easy-staples-that-was-easy-staples-easy-button-easy-button-gif-21815485

With doot

[modern plaza]

don't forget, we also need a map that has 3x the density of jellies and flat 😄

[unkempt quest]

it doesn't need to be flat but i think maybe 5x density

[modern plaza]

ok true, we'll trade the flatness for 5x

[unkempt quest]

and some weird 50x money drop buff

[teal lynx]

Finally Chem! What do i need to know about this Plant?

[unkempt quest]

never click on it

at least thats what it looks like people do

[hollow wasp]

just aqquired yellow dmg number

[stoic crow]

For gaming, follow this flowchart:

1. collect nom-chemical plants
2. Is sprinkler ready? If yes, claim sprinkler, return to step 1. If not, proceed.
3. claim squirrel and shovel
4. Is log ready? If yes, claim and return to step 1. If not, proceed.
5. Claim highest chemical plant. Return to step 1.
6. Repeat until chems, sprinkler, and log are exhausted.
7. Turn Kitsune on to get new chems faster.

[crystal canopy]

How do I get green resource on gaming?

[umbral dust]

Whats the best way to increase mana for my active siege breaker build?

[stoic crow]

I think 1QQ normal bits is 1 green bit

[crystal canopy]

Wow

Will be hard to get

Thanks!

[dapper prism]

Yes, but it's great for its major, i just remembered the major is for skills above 50+ so great once you boost your smithing with coldseeker bullets or other food. And stuff like that will crap out a ton of pearls

[elder osprey]

a +1k golden nuck and you will get it fast

[modern plaza]

hope new update makes snail get mail at 24hrs of gaming time progression 😄

[paper sail]

2 and 3 should be swapped. Claim those shovels often!

[modern plaza]

imo, always sit on at least 1 chemical at all times. if you get a new chemical and everything is on CD, you can pop it and bump the new one up to max chemical 😄

[frozen prairie]

what makes the samples purple?

[atomic kiln]

never gonna happen

[elder osprey]

a god

forget what one

[worldly lichen]

I can not invite or join people to dungeon groups, is this some kind of bug?

[modern lava]

Hello guys i just joined w5 and was wondering if i should toss every char in divinity?

[stoic crow]

I thought of that, but since sprinkler doesn't affect shovel, it doesn't really matter

[wheat plaza]

Kattlecruk is such a boring boss, dude doesn’t have any mechanics except press auto on a class that has AoE

[paper sail]

Other way around though. New nuggets and Squirrel both benefit the plants you're about to pick / grow with sprinkler

[paper sail]

Nobody wants to do boss mechanics thousands of times to farm cards

[modern plaza]

and Kettlekorn has such a low card drop rate

[viscid sandal]

hey guys, i was reading the guide spreadsheet on sailing and was hoping someone could clarify...
If I understand correctly, it's better to NOT use unending loot if you can check multiple times a day, right?

[crystal tulip]

If you can check as regularly as your loot fills up.

If you're filling up every 2 hours, but only check every 6, probably better off not using it.

[paper sail]

Unending loot isn't good unless you're claiming a week worth of time and didn't set a chest rarity filter ahead of time

[viscid sandal]

Right, but if I'm straight up going for artifacts, better to not use it

[paper sail]

Correct

More chests will basically always win

[crystal tulip]

I avoid the filter as well. The more shots I get, the better!

[viscid sandal]

Yeah I'm starting to think that now too

considering the increase in artifact chance doesn't seem to go up drastically with unending loot*

[paper sail]

When I claim 10+ hours from Overnights, I use Iron filter. Let my pile fill up, boats dock, then set to Wood filter, then Open all the chests. I still get 45 total opens, but now 25+ are Iron.

[sick sage]

man these drop like candy

[modern plaza]

genius

[viscid sandal]

I'll trade you a doot for 8 of them :9

[atomic kiln]

yeah, i think ive deleted 40 of them

[modern plaza]

also makes you have better chance of getting a juicy chest in those first 25

[crystal tulip]

Definitely. Sometimes I forget.😂

[paper sail]

I wish the chest rarity was set on the loot pile, not the map

If you don't set it ahead of time, it is useless

[sick sage]

woo

wing nr3

[modern plaza]

anyther divine inc

[sick sage]

ya

[viscid sandal]

geeez

[paper sail]

Maybe one day, I'll find wings

[modern plaza]

stamp that uses boss cyrtals would be dope

[sick sage]

337 kills

3 wings

ez

[modern plaza]

lol wtf

[sick sage]

7 scarfs

aswell

😄

[paper sail]

I have 4 scarves at least. 5 obols. 0 wings. Probably 175+ NM runs with over 13DR

[atomic kiln]

one day u will have all 10 like me

[sick sage]

still got 4k keys

you got 10 wings allreadY

?

[atomic kiln]

yupp

[viscid sandal]

wild man

[atomic kiln]

i know a lot that has

[sick sage]

thats

kinda wild

[atomic kiln]

i havent been bothered getting it on v man but i got 10 wings in total

[sick sage]

mkay

[crisp sedge]

I’m new

Hello

[modern plaza]

yes

[lavish cloak]

hrmmmm

HRMMMMMMM

[atomic kiln]

when all u do is TTTT

crazy just over 1k t all over

[noble mesa]

What is your dmg?

[astral knoll]

should i just use artics on everybody and farm keys?

[atomic kiln]

tooooo high lol

[noble mesa]

Wich is??

I want to know what to set my goal

[noble mesa]

Veryyy noice

[modern plaza]

10QQ when???

[noble mesa]

Im at 230b

[atomic kiln]

when w5 comes out i guess

[atomic kiln]

focus on everything man, bubbles is important

[noble mesa]

And i feel like i made big progres in the last 2 weeks

[atomic kiln]

the progress from my standpoint is basicly just daily bubble clicks

[noble mesa]

Yeaa , i just finised gstack all mobs , now doing pop obels and magma for all charecters

[granite grove]

prob quick slap bubble ig, heard it scales quadratically with movespeed

[atomic kiln]

for dmg on es ive been clicking bubble 1 and 2

1 and 2 and 6

but 1 and 6 u can keep clicking, no cap

[noble mesa]

I feel thet i want more dr for now , after i will go for more dmg

[atomic kiln]

dr is key for progress also

[noble mesa]

Im on 7 dr , want more

[astral knoll]

from alchemy just first 2 bubles to improve dr?

[atomic kiln]

i mean, u have to focus a week or 2 on different things, then change and come back to stuff

i am on 17,2dr

[noble mesa]

Noiceeeee

[frail mauve]

"how much dr do you want?" "All of it"

[ancient quail]

for voidwalker trial runs, should you only do chaotic or the boss 3 times?

[frail mauve]

Chaotic

[atomic kiln]

kill boss on last diff

[noble mesa]

Chaotic

[atomic kiln]

once

[ancient quail]

okay thanks, i did it 3 times the last time so that's an improvement i can make

[atomic kiln]

yeah thats a waste of time

[noble mesa]

U have any tips for big dr?

[modern plaza]

juicy

[hollow wasp]

just realized i also hit acc lvl 1000+

[atomic kiln]

hmm, well getting cards as high as possible on rank is a lot, then gear, keychains etc, if u wanna go crazy use obols on fam and yourself

[atomic kiln]

i hit 4808

[hollow wasp]

😐

[noble mesa]

Tnx

[atomic kiln]

also midas mind prayer

thats from cards on top tier

[noble mesa]

5☆?

Noice

Just gat to ruby cards today

[crisp sedge]

I’m still trying to get copper gear😭

[gaunt forge]

Whenever you get all bubbles unlocked and all cauldrons maxed to 170 are u good to put all your guys on sigils?

[brisk breach]

ive left my es on the rift for a whole night now and i still havent completed the lava skull bs what am i doing wrong

[astral knoll]

lava skull is only active

[noble mesa]

Active?

[brisk breach]

active yes

[astral knoll]

i think that is

[brisk breach]

do i just have the worst luck of all time or something

[forest berry]

is snail mail boosted by log/chemical plats?

[elder osprey]

you do to must aoe and kill all befor it can make the lava one

[teal lynx]

Do u need 1 or 2 Skulls?
If u need 2, then u need to do it on 2 different Characters
Do u kill everything on the Map? U always gotta have some enemies alive

[brisk breach]

oh man that might be it

[placid mural]

anyone have the link that shows the update beta status?

[brisk breach]

i thought i needed to get two skulls each ive been tring to get 2 out of 2 lmao

[forest berry]

you might be too good at killing. when you kill a dude theres a x% chance (idk what x is) that a skull one level higher than the one it has gets put on another dude if there are no dudes alive theres no one to put skull on

[coral goblet]

is there a higher level that counts another %dmg?

[sick sentinel]

every 33 lvls

[coral goblet]

ooo ok

[brisk breach]

im gonna put another char on hopefully its the first problem thank you!!!

[noble mesa]

I think evrey 33 levels

[coral goblet]

i can get another % or 2

[forest berry]

oh yeah its 1 skull on 2 characters, not 2 skulls 1 character

[forest berry]

198 for 8%
231 for 9%
264 for 10%
297 for 11% but you might not be able to get that one as 245 is max level and im not sure how many bonus levels you can get

[placid mural]

anyone have the link that shows the Beta updates status?

[atomic kiln]

@noble mesa thats my DK on vman i should get 17,8

[elder osprey]

what craps do you use ?

cards*

[noble mesa]

Nooooiiiccceeee

One day , one day.....

[teal lynx]

If I farm on my ES for 2 Hours and switch to my DK for Construction Build Rate and swap my Obols to Cons Obols. Do i get the 2 Hours of Progress with my "new" Build Rate?

[placid mural]

building happens regardless of the character you are on

there are no "afk" gains with construction

[teal lynx]

I thought i saw someone mention Cons only happens when you actually look at the Tab. Might be confused by that

[sly harness]

Is there an updated chart for max dr?

[placid mural]

either someone mispoke or you may have misunderstood what they were referencing, because construction is a constant progress skill

[sly harness]

It does, just not the exp gain

[placid mural]

correct, theh EXP gain is afk gain

but not the actual building progress

[sly harness]

So if you're aiming for building progress, you can snapshot it

[teal lynx]

Nice. I got 2 different answers here :))

[placid mural]

sorry i thought you were talking about Build progress, not Exp progress

[teal lynx]

This is what i am talking about

[placid mural]

yes, that happens constantly there is no "afk" gain to is

it

[teal lynx]

With DK and Cons Obols i get like 4 times more

"So if you're aiming for building progress, you can snapshot it"
But he said that. So what is true now?

[placid mural]

your build speed is faster on DK, so you only max your build/per hour if you are active on either DK or a BB

i dont know about snapshotting build speed

[sly harness]

Basically, this works for building progress, but not for exp gains

So you're good to go

[placid mural]

wouldnt it be the other way around though? if you are on your DK open construction, then switch characters and play for 2 hours then you would have the improved build speed?

[sly harness]

As long as you're opening the const tab with your DK, you're good

[placid mural]

interesting

[teal lynx]

Alright, i will farm more Cons Obols then!

[ashen marsh]

which one to max for active BM?

[pale slate]

i will be afk 2 weeks, plan to put everyone to divnity, should i use mantra or chakra style ? i want divinity lvls i do not care much about points now

[near goblet]

The swap character button

[ashen marsh]

?

[near goblet]

You dont active bm

[ashen marsh]

i just want to get lvls

[near goblet]

Unless you wanna waste time

[ashen marsh]

I just want 100 lvls in one day

[stoic crow]

just afk

[modern plaza]

bump

[tacit tulip]

https://steamdb.info/app/1476970/depots/

No update since yesterday

[placid mural]

nearing 24 hour mark, wonder if it will go public today or tomorrow

[tacit tulip]

typically it's 1-2 days but there's a lot of factors that go into it

if it's a particularly big update he might leave a few more days to test

if something major was found there might need to be another build to test before it goes public

all we have to go on is

[placid mural]

question, for ES wurm farming (trying to both level to 450 for trophy and kattle neck(425)) should i disable to class exp and DR prayers that add health? since im assuming that will impact how high of a portal he can get?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, the HP prayers negatively effect ES loot

as the portal mobs scale, too

[placid mural]

and exp as well?

[tacit tulip]

Assuming you're farming for keys yeah

IF it's just exp I'd imagine the crystal mobs are still important

I usually use ES afk for EXP so I can use the prayers, then active DK or Bubo instead

[placid mural]

im mainly trying to get my ES to 425 so i can use the 25% afk gain kattle neck for samples tonight

[tacit tulip]

oooh time is of the essence eh?

I honestly don't know at that point

Would be swayed to the EXP one but the midas one is definitely a no

the downside to not being home for a few days

[sick sentinel]

not a mobile gamer?

or did u leave it active at home lol

[tacit tulip]

I have a mobile but I have none of my talents/cards setup on it

so I'm picking up my daily stuff (NBLB, arcade, sailing etc) and just letting it tick for now

[near mist]

Are the W5 stones the best overall or are there some better ones?

[tacit tulip]

for the majority of uses use W5, they'll be replaced by W6 eventually

there's boss stones from kattle that give better stats but use up slots if they fail

For most of what you're doing, you don't need to use those

[near mist]

Alright thx

Any idea when W6 might come

[forest berry]

id say kattle is better for armor cause it gives moree weapon power, but everything else just use W5

[forest berry]

2 months - 6 months

[near mist]

I want to use on chizoar chaotic scarf

[tacit tulip]

No idea but I'd imagine it's this year. Was 8 months betwee W4 and W5, and we're now 7 months from w5 release date

[forest berry]

wait its been 7 months already, it feels like w5 came out 2 months ago

[tacit tulip]

December

[forest berry]

bro

[tacit tulip]

Then april last year for w4 - I joined just after it came out

[sly plank]

what are the ways of going above max talent levels? ES family and new companion?

[tacit tulip]

ES, Companion, Symbols of the beyond, Bear god

There's a w5 achievement that gives +1 too

[sly plank]

nice, thank you

[fathom lagoon]

Just did my first vman run and got 17 portals

Goddamn 510 talent points lol

[tacit tulip]

you'll wanna use those points to improve the talents that improve your speedrunning for now

first three skills, and the multikill one

[fathom lagoon]

That’s what I did

[tacit tulip]

damage/luck too

[fathom lagoon]

Can’t wait to run tmrw

[tacit tulip]

booking the skills is essential to improve your runs too

it takes a little while to get to your max just from those improvements

[fathom lagoon]

I need me the fury artifact

[tacit tulip]

once you're capped out on runs you can respec and just get the things that benefit your account - I suggest booking the cooking skill

it's possibly the strongest talent in the game

[fathom lagoon]

I’ve done everything to max book level except that lol

[sly plank]

for sailing is one boat enough for unlocking new islands? everything else on grabbing artifacts?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah might as well only use one for islands

you can do the lot if you want it unlocked immediately tho

Don't be dismayed by it if the talent looks weak at first, it gives only 1/100 the buff the tooltip suggests it does, and it's still disgustingly good

[north juniper]

Does anyone have 2 BB in the kitchen?

[tacit tulip]

No, but only because I'm using one to mega chow rn

if he wasn't doing that I'd be using both

[true obsidian]

wtf is this?

Lava math now really weird af

[elder osprey]

neh the gods ar just tolling back

trolling*

[pure meadow]

what are the best V man talents to spent points on if there are points left?

[north juniper]

So you have 2 BB, 2 DK, 2 ES, Bubo, SB, Bowman, VMan?

[tacit tulip]

2 BB, bubo, SB, 1 of rest

[north juniper]

Gotcha so still 3/3/3/1 as far as base class is concerned

[true obsidian]

everything...but if you ask about tab 4

[pure meadow]

thank you!

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, just not optimal by modern standards

When I joined, 2 BB/bubo was being touted for the w4 skills

[north juniper]

Yeah I can understand that. Saw many peeps who did it

[north juniper]

I just looked that top right one up again and holy crap

It's broken

[true obsidian]

but tbh, if you really have alot points, try max 3 stats talents first, then go to other chars and max those talents, you can use reset potion to save 245*4 points

[pure meadow]

oh wow, that works? just like the smithing and star talent thing? thats nice to know

[true obsidian]

tbh i have very little point, i just do speed run twice since vman comeout

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, you lose base bonus but keep the max talent level

[north juniper]

Oh same here. I think I'm at 38 portals or something

[gray thicket]

Was I supposed to get one this late?

[north juniper]

I'll have to do a nice split build between the presets to throw points into it

[gray thicket]

Forgot to crop, I mean the captain with loot and speed traits

[north juniper]

I don't think they're gated from appearing

Just as you level up from what I've seen

Semi contradicted myself there

But you get the point

[gray thicket]

I do

Thank you

[north juniper]

❤️

[true obsidian]

yeah, 4 last talents and dmg talent are super good, try to max them, other just for vaman, don't need to spend much, i would say [ 1 - max - 0 - max - 225/250 ] if you not play speed run

[pure meadow]

thanks again! i totally skilled wrong then xD

[true obsidian]

that [ 1 - max - 0 - max - 225/250 ] is the first row in case you don't know( which i think not but still...)

[serene solstice]

finaly ffs

[pure meadow]

i guessed so xD

[serene solstice]

good that I am still not lvl 450 with any of my characters... xD

[muted sandal]

Do Div multipliers only affect div points and not exp?

[sly plank]

which post office boxes should I prioritize for active bubo?

[true obsidian]

Yes

[muted sandal]

cool, ty

[true obsidian]

Alchemy?

[tacit tulip]

Mana/drop first, after that it doesn't matter

Oh, alchemy too

[true obsidian]

Alchemy for CC

[sly plank]

thanks all

[true obsidian]

Try active DK and you don't have to ask about "which post office boxes..." anymore

[sly plank]

haha, I don’t have choco chip so it’s a little rough even with active dk

[true obsidian]

Ah...well...bubo is love bubo is life

[sly plank]

[elder osprey]

is they a way to speed up the forge it is pianfully slow

[true obsidian]

Archer and tons of 1 hour candy

[elder osprey]

ok ty

[crystal socket]

is there a trick for lava skulls in rift?

[true obsidian]

How you do that?
Pick strongest archer, go into tab 2 talent and max the first talent in last row from left to right. Go to the highest kill/hour map, use 1 hour candy, go back town to collect bars and repeat

[elder osprey]

high dps low aoe

[tacit tulip]

Any time you kill a mob it has a 50% chance to upgrade to the next skull

Auto until you see a plat skill, then manually kill it

50% chance you see a deme skull

Kill thst

50% chance you get lava

Done

[crystal socket]

ty

[tacit tulip]

Try to avoid clearing the entire map at once. No mobs = skull can't upgrade

[runic girder]

Whats the deal between magma vs kattle armor again

I know kattle isnt straight up better but when do you go kattle and when magma

[tacit tulip]

head/shoes are drop rate so good for grinding most things

Chest/legs are good for respawn speed so good for afk fighting

You lose out on allstats% tho, making it worse for skilling, money gain, and often damage

I find most players damage goes up overall tho

[runic girder]

Ty

[runic girder]

People still gain damage from kattle chest/legs?

[hardy shale]

2 blood berserkers or 2 SB? I heard meta changed but not sure if true

[tacit tulip]

Most of what you lose is from the shoes

Take 2sb over 2bn

There's a bug with BB mega chow that's nice to avoid

[void pulsar]

what do yall think would be the best class for the rift boss challenge? Bubo, Blood, or Beastmaster?...

its gotta be one of them, 3/4 done

[runic girder]

Theres several different ones

Which challenge

[void pulsar]

rift like 40

[runic girder]

Asking because idk if its worth unlocking the recipes for now

[runic girder]

Dont make me look it up, what do you need to do

[tacit tulip]

Personally, BB

Had a lot of trouble killing that boss with bubo and my archers cause the range made auto chase the mobs below me

[void pulsar]

rift 38, kill big boss that heals

[tacit tulip]

BB sticks to the boss, which was nicer

[void pulsar]

yeah same, but BB feels so weak in comparison

nothing to amp his damage repeatedly

[runic girder]

Highest damage id say

But tbh you could try all of them

[void pulsar]

have been, currently stuck on 3/4 done lol

[runic girder]

Aah

[void pulsar]

its killing me, rip

[steady herald]

what is the actual recommended amulet for active dk play?

[runic girder]

Green chiz scarf

For everyone

[dapper prism]

Anyone gonna ping or dm me when the update hits today/tomorrow (just a guess, we deserve it) 😄

[runic girder]

Doubt youll get a ping

There has been no beta release

[dapper prism]

Damn

[barren otter]

yea ill ping you tues when it comes out

[dapper prism]

Who needs a beta when you can just skip it and release it buggy?

Tuesday would be nice 😄

[runic girder]

My guess is next weekend

[steady herald]

What about rings? I guess dungeon shop?

[dapper prism]

dungeon emp opal

[runic girder]

Yep

[steady herald]

2 of em?

Thank you guys, appreciated!

[dapper prism]

In some rare cases actually stopwatch (+upgraded stopwatch) can be better for afk kph

[fading dust]

Just finished CHOWING w1/2 mobs. Should I focus on getting as many plates to diamond or egg/corndog/cabbage to jade plate?

[bright current]

I think diamonds > cabbage > rest

[silver moon]

What class should I focus on for bossing?

[frail mauve]

Dk for minibosses and vman for world bosses (or bosses without trash mobs)

[silver moon]

Thanks!
What about bosses with trash mobs?

[frail mauve]

Dk (dunno about world 5) but dk for arena and weekly/daily bosses in general

[silver moon]

Thanks

[frail mauve]

Orb is really good for stacking more rewards

[silver moon]

Ah nice! Forgot about that.