lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tacit tulip]

cards wouldn't be

[sharp igloo]

How much would I need for cards? 120?

[ashen marsh]

damn I don't wanna lose this.

should I just wait it out and then connect to goat afterwards

[tacit tulip]

It varies heavily on the talent points invested into the individual attacking skills - mine were poor and I needed close to 200

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks

Why would you not get afk hours on your shrines?

[ashen marsh]

I have my shrines in w5

but if I link to goat I have to go connect to lab in w4 right

[tacit tulip]

yeah, the artifact for global shrines is the bonus - you still need same world for afk gains

[ashen marsh]

damn I just unlinked too. Should I just wait it out to lvl up shrine and then move to goat

otherwise I lose 16k hours lol

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's a hard call to make

[sharp igloo]

Oh i didnt realize that. I dont even know where my shrines are lol. I just thought they applied everywhere

[tacit tulip]

Base game: same map only
Lab: Same world
Sailing artifact: Bonus is made global

In theory w6 might get a "level anywhere" talent but tbh I doubt it

[sharp igloo]

I wanna say I have them in w5 town, but I honestly cant remember seeing them in a while lmao

[ashen marsh]

how do I link to a second god on ES again?

just by lvling it right

[sharp igloo]

Yeah level that skill 1 at a time, and itll tell you which second god youre linked to.

[latent chasm]

whats the lowest crystal space chance you can get?

just outta curiousity

[sharp igloo]

My ES is my strongest dude so I had him on nobisect and harriep with my other guys on bear

[cinder birch]

saw someone with a 1/8 crystal chance was their vman

[latent chasm]

dang alright

cuz im at like 1 in 30 on divine but i know vman is alot lower

[zinc torrent]

Hi everyone

[latent chasm]

Hello 👋

[sharp igloo]

Hi

[zinc torrent]

What's up ?

🌝

[latent chasm]

Nothing much bub

[zinc torrent]

Ha ok bruh

[ashen marsh]

i keep forgeting about this lol

i got owned

[sharp igloo]

Turn your lab bonus for that off unless youre afk for a super long time or active buboing

[zinc torrent]

Ho I'm not at this level for the moment me 😂

[dapper prism]

idk man but my CC would fill up my cap within a single CC if i dont have lab on xD

[elfin idol]

what bubble level starts doing that

[dapper prism]

bubble?

[elfin idol]

CC bubble

Gives you too much progress that you need to worry about wastage

[lavish quiver]

It also has to do with the rate, i get ~22 hr

[dapper prism]

2nd page

you should have that already

[elfin idol]

I have it I just mean how high a level of tha tbubble when you should worry about it

[sharp igloo]

I mean yeah if thats the case leave it on lol. Mine gets to like 80% from 1 CC so I leave it off and then just use my liquids after each CC

[elfin idol]

Oooh ofc well im also miles off that at 7.2hr

[dapper prism]

its not only about that ability

other stuff adds into it too

the biggest thing is 200+ tente

also setting up your bar and stuff

[lavish quiver]

stamps and salt lick will help with rate

[sharp igloo]

Is there any benefit to 310 tente, or does it not gain any time after 200?

[dapper prism]

time is at 200, so next second is 400

[lavish quiver]

400 would be the next 1sec

[dapper prism]

but you still get %

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay

Are there any skills that get a big boost at 300? Ive been going for eldritch fury for weeks now but dont know what to max first when I finally get it.

[dapper prism]

not that i know

but stuff always scales the saem

like aura is every 35

[sharp igloo]

Lol aura is already ridiculous with 8 of them, at 310 itll just cover the whole map

[lyric adder]

Is it a good I d3a to use the new upg stones on the skull staff

[sick sentinel]

Up to you, i wont use them until i remake weapons

First round of weps got the store stones for me since they arent rng

[sharp igloo]

I got lucky with an extra slot on my skull fist, used 2 of the new upgrade stones, both succeeded, then used 5 regular w5 stones for the rest

[azure spindle]

if you're trying to upgrade the misc stat on gear is it best just to use the tier 1 mystery stones?

[kind geyser]

Does anyone have the link for the book check out max lvl guide ?

[tacit tulip]

As in, the things you need to do to pull 245 books?

[kind geyser]

Yeah

[tacit tulip]

Salt lick
1000 book achievement
Artifact (x3)
Atom collider

should be everything

oh and w3 merit

[kind geyser]

Thanks

[tacit tulip]

125(base)+10+20+5+10+75

[kind geyser]

My salt/merit are maxed

But I haven't came across a artefact that Boost it yet

I'm working on my atom

[tacit tulip]

The artifact is the biggest one, 25 per tier

(3rd tier unlocked through rift)

[kind geyser]

I see

The elderich thing

[tacit tulip]

yep 🙂

[kind geyser]

Thanks mate

[tacit tulip]

np

[thin rose]

I want eldirtch

Rift 2 moment

[tacit tulip]

eldritch feels great until you spend a month hunting after a single upgrade haha

[dapper prism]

just gotta remove sb talent 11 for 50 loot pile, spread and grind out gold hampters and alch bubble for more sailing skips. Plus Omni from div helps

[sharp igloo]

Wait what? 50 chests? Im only getting 25 lol. What SB talent are you talking about?

[dapper prism]

i wrote it, talent 11

sb talent 11 (tab 4) removes 1 loot pile, but lets ships continue to drive at a chance of upgrading a chest. Plus each lap captains get xp

[sharp igloo]

Which one is that though lol, i have a guy activing on my pc, so i dont wanna log in to check on my phone lol

[dapper prism]

Without the talent your boats will fill up an extra chest for each boat beyond your loot pile and dock at the pier with the extra chest

[sharp igloo]

Ah okay thanks

[dapper prism]

so if you have 20 boats and loot pile of 30, it fills up the loot pile 30 + 20 boats = 50

More chests >

[tacit tulip]

yup, it's a trap talent. It does have uses, but general gameplay doesn't benefit from it

[sharp igloo]

Wait so if I remove that talent Ill get more chests but theyll all be lv 1 chests?

[dapper prism]

no not lvl 1, its still the same rng

[tacit tulip]

you can pull back higher than lvl 1 chests normally

[sharp igloo]

So basically just reset my talents and dont add any to that skill?

[dapper prism]

Imagine you have a loot pile of 30, and 15 boats, if all boats are 2h time it takes 4h to fill all 30 slots.

• With SB talent 11, you get 29 chests, and then your boats continue with a chance to upgrade old chests
• Without sb talent 11, you get the 30 chests, and 2h later you would have 45 chests as the 30 pile is full and all 15 boats at the dock. They will also stop at the pier and not continue

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay. When would that talent be useful then?

[grizzled elk]

long afk sailing claims

[short gale]

After all islands are discovered and before all ancient and eldritch artifacts are found, what captain stat is most useful?

[sharp igloo]

Speed

Unless all your boats have 50mil speed, then probably artifact chance

[short gale]

OK, awesome. Any idea what amount of arti chance i'd want to settle for over speed?

[hexed crescent]

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[obtuse orbit]

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[sharp igloo]

I would just go for speed until you can do the last island in 2 hours

[dapper prism]

only need like 1/4th of your boats to reach the later islands

maybe half

Never send all boats to the same island (except maybe fury)

but core thing is = fastest boats always to the later/last islands while slow af boats clean up low islands

[sharp igloo]

I currently have all mine on fury lmao

[dapper prism]

I've seen ppl have all boats on low islands doing it in order, but then you just get stuck on later islands as slow boats are just to slow

[signal osprey]

All boats on island 1 for Big P clicks 🗿

[sharp igloo]

At what speed would you reccomend going for the last island? Wait till 50mil or is it worth it to try it at 10?

[dapper prism]

last artifact may not be as helpful, depends on your other artifacts, i had most stuff eldritch before going for lantern mainly because i just didnt have much atoms that it would benefit from

[cyan shuttle]

another update

[dapper prism]

Where is this? 😮

[cyan shuttle]

steamdb

[dapper prism]

how long is it "usually" from locked to release?

[cyan shuttle]

like 1/2 days

depends on how many bugs

[dapper prism]

1-2 or half? 😄

[cyan shuttle]

1-2

could also be some hours if it's a really small update

[dapper prism]

w6+7 lets go! xD

[sharp igloo]

Im currently missing the 25% multikill one, the 25% shiny pet one, the 10% allstats one, and the last one. Everything else is ancient or eldritch. Currently all my boats are going for eldritch fury, but the 25% multikill and 10% allstats seem really good

[dapper prism]

wonder if it's already going to be the expeditions or something else.

Summer event would also be nice for some candy

[solid schooner]

why does it fill like free log game has higher skull chance.

[dapper prism]

Eld Fury > anything. Get those 245 max books asap.
Rest is situational. MK will help if you need to chow/superchow on BB

[sharp igloo]

Wouldnt it be good for gmush too?

[dapper prism]

Idk but i had 4x first skull the other day from like 10ish logs xD

[dapper prism]

yeh that too

but gmush is just a passive extra thing, helps with money => stamps but other stuff helps with a ton of things (cooking => everything)

idk all a bit situational

all stats was also great with dmg if you have last bubbles

[short gale]

Thank you for the sailing help

[dapper prism]

just remember, no SB talent 11 = less captain xp. (since its based on laps)

Anyone recall, was sailing xp itself purely based on chests opened?

[sharp igloo]

Ive been neglecting cooking a lot lol, but I also wanna get my gmush up so I can level my stamps. Once I finish getting kattle gear on all my guys I was gonna put my ES on GMush until w6 comes out

[dapper prism]

full kattle gear isnt the best though?

[sharp igloo]

I know magma has higher damage but the drop rate from kattle is nice, and im assuming it will build into w6 gear like troll did

[dapper prism]

yeh but losing stats/magma means you need another magma set to move around everywhere between chars for skilling samples

Believe for kattle Head+feet = DR, active (es/dk/vman) stuff. Then Chest+Legs for Afk kph like gmush etc

[sly plank]

I noticed big p bubble uses sailing treasure, is there a list somewhere of all the treasures and where they are used?

[dapper prism]

Wiki usually

[short gale]

wiki

[sharp igloo]

I dont mind making 1 extra set of magma for sampling, but honestly idk if i even have time before w6

[dapper prism]

or just mousehover in IE/IT

[dapper prism]

I've been pushing hard on gear recently. Just been time gated on some nullo salt but made all these sets a few days ago (had 3 sets initially)
https://i.imgur.com/gaC965v.png

[sly plank]

couldnt find anything on wiki, let me check again

[dapper prism]

alchemy, open each cauldron and then scroll through the bubbles, its pretty much only last page bubbles so could just use IE/IT

[fluid escarp]

been away for a while

[sly plank]

oh so theyre only used for bubbles? not anywhere else?

[dapper prism]

Besides sailing boat upgrades, just like 5-6 alch bubbles if even (which will be on the last page of bubbles for w5 bubbles.

[sly plank]

cool, thanks for the help

[sharp igloo]

Dang nice, thats a ton of opal rings lol. I just started trying to upgrade all my gear this week. Ive been so focused on my ES that all my other guys were way behind. They were all wearing chiz. Now i have a kattle chest on everyone, and some combo of magma/troll for all the other parts, other than 1 or 2 chiz helms/boots and then full kattle on my ES.

[oak tartan]

Does Black pearl work on skills like divinity/sailing/cooking/breeding?

[sharp igloo]

Not sure, but the red/orange pearl is hella underrated.

EZ level 50 cooking/fishing on all characters

[oak tartan]

Ah, I don't have them. Have to look for those red/orange ones

[sharp igloo]

Theyre from the bird divinity

[oak tartan]

Oh thanks! I'm not linked to it

[grizzled elk]

doesn't work on account wide skills

[oak tartan]

ahhh, I thought it would be such a boost.

[grizzled elk]

so cooking yes, breeding no

[sharp igloo]

Honestly not sure if its worth it without doot. I never linked to it before either, but once I got doot, they started coming in a lot

[oak tartan]

and probably not w5 skills?

[grizzled elk]

gaming and sailing definitely not, probably not div

I'd try for you but don't have a low enough level for it to work anyways

[oak tartan]

Ah ok. I was thinking of saving it when I'm closer to lvl 30. Only lvl 10ish right now

20% of lvl 29 is worth a lot more than 20% of lvl 10

[placid mural]

I think I might put in a suggestion that lava makes a new skill pearl that goes up to lvl 70 or 80 that uses like 5 of the orange red ones, since once you have everyone past lvl 50 on all skills there is no point to them anymore

[lost beacon]

This game is such a grind, I feel like I'm falling behind. Gated by time with the salts I refine.

[gaunt forge]

Out of curiosity, how many water droplets are late game players getting in 1 cool down of cranium cooking?

[lost beacon]

I'll check right now for you

Let me run a CC, I have one ready to activate

[versed cypress]

if you need salt the best recomendation is to move 6 chars into elephant god and put them in the lab

[lost beacon]

Thats just Idleon Rap, I'm doing great. I have Doot.

[versed cypress]

that shoul dpush to try and get as many procs as possibel and hopefully push your salt production as much as you possibly can

ahhh then youa re good

doot will make sure you get caught up at some point

tough salt is slow no matter what even with elephant procs

[vocal ibex]

Whats the point of lab past lvl 75

[lost beacon]

Rift bonus

[vocal ibex]

Mmm not at rift yet

[versed cypress]

rift bonus and be ready for whatever future thing lava makes for lab that needs higher level

[vocal ibex]

So my characters need leveling and pushing worlds. If I unlocked all gods and when I lev all my characters to lvl 75 can I just have them all fight push worlds ?

Lvl 75 in lab that is

[versed cypress]

if you have divinity you can jsut put 6 chars or arctis god and they are lab proxies that you can still use outside to do other things

lvl 75 is the mark cause thats when you get all chip slots

[sly plank]

when should I farm pop obols? I have 5.05x drop rate and 100m damage on my ES, worth going for it?

[lost beacon]

I get 92 hours of progress for CC.

[vocal ibex]

Thanks

I have doots so I'm take them off just wanted to make sure I don't miss anything

@versed cypress

Gonna have all 9 pushing

[versed cypress]

ahhh yeah with doot if you need the exp just put them in lab untill they are done OR you can just put your bubo when not using him for anything else and make the bubo give your chars exp so they periodicaly level up

[vocal ibex]

She my main chick can't take her off fighting.. I'm just stick with first suggestion level them to 75 and then have them push as they hit lvl 75 so I can actually start farming better stuff.

Only lvl 60 though gonna take a while to get them 15 levels

[versed cypress]

i mean if your bubo is not doing anythign else they can passively level up your lowest lab char as they sit in the lab to relax

best aproach i can give, is to build small goals for each of your characters

[vocal ibex]

Yes it's a lot

[hoary light]

what map in w1 and w2 do you guys active crystal farm with bubo? trying to get tons of statues lol

[fallen jacinth]

random question ugh what is the requirement for this icon to change

[sharp igloo]

Im getting a little under 1k per CC

[versed cypress]

for bubo some ppl say beans for bubo, for the most part if you want statues one good way is to use DK as well since DK respawn and orb skill will maximise your gains from crystal mobs

w2 ppl go for either sandcastle, sandpots or snelbies for crystal farming

[sharp igloo]

Id say oranges. I get the most on those

[hoary light]

I never thought to use DK, I just love the poison and CC goin on at the same time

thanks for the help tho!

[versed cypress]

bubo needs a lot of mobs in specific platform or straight areas to be the best, DK just needs a place where they can completely clean out the map fast

bubo will get base drops only from they DR while DK gets a massive boost to crystal drops from the orb skill

which is why if your main goal is farming crystal drops (statues/obols/quest items crystals can drop etc) DK is the best choise

[frigid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/family-toretto-dominic-gif-23895685

[vague horizon]

DK for special drops (Cause of DR boost) ES for greenstacking

[grizzled elk]

my roadkill bubble is shit but I'm running one now, give me a minute

1400 or so water

[azure spindle]

is the bone armor worth building?

[lavish quiver]

Yes? I mean its not better then magma for pure stats but it has its niche, just wouldn't build all your magma to bone

[narrow cloak]

if i reroll a bronze obol to higher stats do they stay after i upgrade it to silver?

[prisma drift]

Yes put the upgraded one on the left

[pulsar cliff]

Fucking finally can move on.

[glass quail]

what does passive mean on some cards?

[narrow cloak]

is it better to upgrade pop obols before or after?

[pulsar cliff]

You don't have to equip it to get the bonus.

[glass quail]

i see, thanks

[prisma drift]

Always before

Rerolling an obol later just costs more fragments

[frigid acorn]

get any pendant ?

[prisma drift]

So roll for best stats then upgrade

[pulsar cliff]

5 in total, so I'll inevitably need to farm another 5 but meh

😦

[prisma drift]

You’ll probably get then farming 10 capes

[odd stream]

that's dedication

[narrow cloak]

so if i get a bronze pop obol to 3% dr and fuse it with an unupgraded one it'll become a 4% one and that's as high as you can go?

[prisma drift]

Much cheaper than rolling the silvers

[placid mural]

Do you guys use construction obols on your DKs?

[next locust]

I've them on my second dk. I only check cogs with him, cause from what I've heard, cog screen snapshots your exp/build rate.

Edit: brainfart. Typed obols instead of cogs

[narrow cloak]

i do but i don't have anything better to put on them

[queen lichen]

How can i find eldritch artifacts from sailing?

[pulsar cliff]

Back to Bubo since I just blew alllll of my water.

[pulsar cliff]

You unlock it in Rift.

[narrow cloak]

afaik you need a rift

[fading cape]

did you even have anything that took longer than your min time?

[pulsar cliff]

I think I might be too many scotch -- oh that makes more sense.

No I one shot him everytime, if that's what you were asking?

[fading cape]

No I mean thes ailing speed. For the bonus. Did you even get a gain from owning it? I figure at the point I'm ruby carding him all my boats would be already be so fast that they'd be capping out at the min time

[pulsar cliff]

OH.

Ehhhh, that last island is a doozy.

I have a few (5 or so) that do min time to last island.

[fading cape]

ah

[spring talon]

such a great captain

[narrow cloak]

so lucky, i wish i got captains this good

[next locust]

Op captain. Will not trigger boat speed bug ever

[narrow cloak]

honestly it's unfair it's almost as good as getting doot

[next locust]

If I only had that captain when I started w5 :/ Would've almost doubled my chests/h when put on my second ship

[fading cape]

Nepotism captain strikes again

His dad is the admiral. So he gets to be captain. But clearly no idea what he's doing

[odd stream]

He's trying his best

[next locust]

It's not the boat speed it's the motion of the ocean.

[brisk bane]

Hey i have one bb with more talents than the other but still it's getting less fish samples and idk why.
I've changed all equipments, i've the same prayers active, bubbles i have sheep so doesn't matter, both are under snake god, same food, constellations and lab chips it's also a very big diff in samples

124k krakens vs 74k

[next locust]

Both skill lvls under your vman's?

[brisk bane]

Yes both 60 for the fishing rod

And vman has 70

[next locust]

Double checked your card setups?

[brisk bane]

Yes, same setup

With same doublers

[next locust]

No idea then, tbh. Is the amount what idleon tells you or did you check what idleon efficiency tell it is? There's some visual bugs for 3d printer screen afaik

[lost beacon]

It looks like this

[brisk bane]

Hm no idea then, i guess i'll leave it like this lol

was a long day of resampling

[next locust]

Same rods and baits? Same fishing spots?

[waxen geode]

when do you get the traderbulyte

[brisk bane]

yes, i used the same chart image

[waxen geode]

the gold exploit guy

[opaque sun]

The purple depth makes a quite impact

[waxen geode]

the fuckin money bling bling man

[opaque sun]

get the respective artifact

[waxen geode]

oh

[twilit goblet]

is there anywhere i can find 3 more levels for tenteyecle?
currently have :

1. fury artifact
2. salt lick 9/10 (last level needs a lot of blue salt)
3. ES lvel 255 with family talent at 66

[brisk bane]

More family talent, bear divinity god, atom collider

(besides obvios ancient fury and salt lick bonus)

[next locust]

Library 1000 book achievement?

[twilit goblet]

299/1000 so it wont be here for a while

im thinking atom collider once i it but thats a bit away too

get*

ill check bear divinity, thanks!

Already on bear giving me 3.7 talent points haha, guess it'll be atom then

[cinder birch]

got big p bubble?

[brisk bane]

get more divinity level with bubo while you farm levels with ES for more familiy talent bonus

[twilit goblet]

so close.. is it a lot of mats to get to the upgrade in atom?

not yet , still on the rift shiny bubble for luck and not having much luck so far

[brisk bane]

Hows your 3D printer looking? if you are just finishing atom i dont think you'll get the upgrade asap

[fading cape]

It is 10m resources to get a single atom

[twilit goblet]

can print almost 10m ore per hour

oh damn

would u guys rmb how many atoms for first unlock?

okay i found it in search, 3.2k atoms

yikes 3200m resources

[azure spindle]

have you logged into the other characters since getting bear?

[fading cape]

Just realized I hit level 300 skills

[gray thicket]

May I ask, how?

[fading cape]

rift Slug pet for the +25, level 410 ES for family bonus, and then max level 245 library books. Plus this character is currently linked to Arctis for the final +9

[gray thicket]

Nice PFP btw

very stylish

[fading cape]

My symbols of beyond is only 160. So could get another 4 from that. Family guy skill only at 56, so probably +1 more if I get that to 240.

[brisk bane]

How does lvl 1000 construction rift bonus work?

you'll be able to get to 400 with that?

[placid mural]

no it increases the construction level for library, not the book level

[signal osprey]

Its the building level not talent levels

[brisk bane]

Ohhh there we go, i was like "damn things will go crazy"

lol

[gray thicket]

Btw, what level is your character?

[fading cape]

412

[gray thicket]

I regret asking

That's twice my current highest level character

[fading cape]

meh. they come quick when you start farming xp bubble and w5

[placid mural]

oof just wait until you are trying to go from 480 to 500 loooooong road that is

[opaque sun]

should aim to get ES 497 for +11 eventually

[fading cape]

Is there a reason for more than 450?

[gray thicket]

XP bubble is lvl 21

[signal osprey]

For ES you want 497 for family bonus. Other than that you would want more levels to eventually get the last sparkle obol

[placid mural]

last sparkle obol?

[lavish quiver]

5000 family lvl one

[signal osprey]

The family page has a sparkle slot at 5k family level

[placid mural]

oooooooh obol slot

[opaque sun]

vman damage talent works on exact lv50 breakpoints, so if possible get 497 to 500

[fading cape]

ugh. I was gonna stop at 450 for last trophy. But now. bah. eventually maybe

[placid mural]

im going to work on getting everyone to 450, then after that im going to start the slog to 500

[signal osprey]

Its not worth going past 450 realistically unless you're willing to commit to playing mostly active bubo and leveling GT for quite awhile

5k family takes a very long time

[gray thicket]

Question, what is the Little Sprinkler's max level cap?

[placid mural]

effective max is 20 plants

[lost beacon]

You'll want to get it to around 220% depending on how you use Acorns

[gray thicket]

That is exactly what I had in mind, just couldn't put it into words

[placid mural]

oh woops wrong upgrade lol

[gray thicket]

thanks

[lost beacon]

so that a Stage 4 Chem will fill it from 0 to 20

[placid mural]

oh that was the one you were talking about

the upgrade to take the plant max past 20 is like a magnitude of 100 zeros past what is currently doable

that may not be exactly accurate but it is close.

[gray thicket]

[lyric adder]

Should I make any of the w5 boss gears

[tranquil surge]

how do i get my vman to rank 1

for skills like gaming and sailing?

if its shared xp

sounds like a silly question and it probably is but if there is a way cool

[crisp silo]

it dont matter for w4 and w5 skills

ok wait maybe w4 skills have an effect but w5 skills have no effect

[tranquil surge]

oh ok sweet

thats alright then

the only w4 skill thats behind is lab

as breeding is also shared

are you sure divinity isnt one that would count?

[blazing zodiac]

which bonus use green stacks...cant remember

[tranquil surge]

lab

[versed cypress]

vman is still like maestro only affects w1-3 skills

[tranquil surge]

oh i see so the hands talents dont count w4 5 ?

[versed cypress]

w4 maybe would have benefited for lab and cooking but sadly dont work, and w5 divinity doesnt use eff tough the extra exp might have been nice

but no they dont affect w4 or 5

[tranquil surge]

ok thats good to know

trapping souls and construction however

[versed cypress]

neither do the talent that gives the class dmg% for the lowest level skill

construction maestro should eventualy be rank 2 or 3 depending behind your DK(s)

[tranquil surge]

only have one dk

[versed cypress]

then he should b e rank 2

[tranquil surge]

and hes not even the highest lmfaooo

i think one of my bbs is higher

which is ridiculous but it was just the placement of them

ive swapped it out today

[versed cypress]

you need to work on that cause mid game onwards 99% of your build speed will come exclusively from your DK

[tranquil surge]

tryna make maestro rank 1

[versed cypress]

maestro will never get rank 1 in construction

[tranquil surge]

even with obols etc?

[versed cypress]

DK exp bonuses are just too much for maestro to compete

[pine slate]

Hell yeah, gotta love those numbers am I right

[versed cypress]

how???

[tranquil surge]

is that negative LOL

wtf

[lavish quiver]

U win the game

[versed cypress]

i guess you refreshed your skills and somethign went wrong xDD

[pine slate]

I'm just that good

[versed cypress]

that or you overflowed the game into negatives and now you shall get the other side xDD

like how in final fantasy games if you underflow mana on some enemies they insta die xDD

[lavish quiver]

You dont have gaming unlocked yet?

[tranquil surge]

^ this one

[pine slate]

yeah not yet lmao

I've been found out )_)

[tranquil surge]

i couldnt work it out but then remembered that and div bonuses were negative

im assuming sailing was too

the reason my dk was lower construction was because it was producing coggs

and therefore not getting any xp bonuses from the cogs on the actual cogmap

if i keep my dk in cogs it wont be first

but that silly so i will level dk up now to rank 1 - 2

[lavish quiver]

Rank 1 there is no way it shouldnt be

[tranquil surge]

let me double check

hes level 52

my highest is a bb

at 65

[lavish quiver]

Need to get to work on construction with dk it seems

[tranquil surge]

yeah for sure

its proably time gated me hard so far because of it

but i didnt even realize

[lavish quiver]

Ive been farming cogs to get high exp

[tranquil surge]

i was buggering round for about 3 weeks trying for the grey cogs achievement

such a massive waste of time

and for what

[lavish quiver]

Is there a formula or chart that shows how high of an exp cog you can get for your level?

[sick orchid]

Hi everyone, i just reached w5 and luckily i jave doot unlocked, can someone explain to me exactly how it works, i have 1 god unlocked so far

[tranquil surge]

anyone know the link to that cog array site?

you upload your json and it arranges it

[crisp silo]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[tranquil surge]

it was posted here ages ago but ive forgotten it

yaeh thats it

cheers

[crisp silo]

uhhhhhh you get div lvl 2/3? then you can get main bonus of all gods. if you want minor bonuses, you have to unlock them then they are available

and that reminds me, time to gamble

[tranquil surge]

the score weight

[sick orchid]

Everyone is still lvl 1, i have 9 chars chilling on divi

[tranquil surge]

i should edit those for max build xp or?

[crisp silo]

ugh i have 23 more mins

[crisp silo]

usually you want higher xp weight

[tranquil surge]

i dont care for flaggyt rate tbh

[gaunt forge]

Does cooking roadkill have good scaling? If not when does it start to cap out?

[lavish quiver]

exp only, leveling your squire will get your rate faster than anything else

[crisp silo]

get literally anyone to div lvl2/3, then doot comes to life

[crisp silo]

barb you say

[lavish quiver]

barb dk

same class

[sick orchid]

Thank you..and don't gamble 🫂

[lavish quiver]

ok nvm im having trouble thinking

[crisp silo]

all good we all have trouble thinking

[sick orchid]

Sorry why does it matter lvl 2/3?

[lost beacon]

We pushing portals tonight. Its V night.

Almost through W3

[crisp silo]

lava restricted doot to only activate when player has someone at leaste div lvl2/3

[opaque sun]

when you active on someone with div level 1, doot deactivates

[tranquil surge]

sweet

extra 4k buildspeed per hour and extra 90% xp rates

pretty massive

flaggy is still the same

[crisp silo]

gamba time

and its a slime

[placid mural]

doot! get that doot

[lost beacon]

slimed doot?

[placid mural]

Joining the 1 trillion club!!!

[sharp wind]

Wow mine barely on 100b

[vocal ibex]

Can I get a catching card guide ? For efficiency plz

[sick sentinel]

#1090072110879219803 message
There is this if u dont have passive catching cards yet for rift skill mastery

[willow idol]

Is there any reason to push past wave 200 of pet arena?

[primal bison]

I don’t go to the casino anymore, I just get drunk and attempt to doot it

[sweet mountain]

Well.. another week another miss

[sly plank]

you want to roll bronze pop obols to 3% before combining, to get 4% silver pops right?

[gray thicket]

I recently reached 20M

[swift stone]

Me 300

[gray thicket]

[swift stone]

Nvm its 138

[sharp vine]

Finally got my bubo to wurms, time to power some levels

[gray thicket]

That's still 6 times my damage

[dapper prism]

Reminder to lvl that liquid cauldron Regen rate first 😄

Yay finally another one down, this one has been really stubborn xD
https://i.imgur.com/Zva0TB9.png

https://i.imgur.com/NaAlXaN.png

Also funny timing that he's around to dump some of the mats 😄
https://i.imgur.com/iLvtQgT.png

[crisp silo]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i need that eldrich mk rock

[dapper prism]

that reminds me.. i need to void sample run :/

Oh gosh and worse.. i havnt sampled since doot got released

[crisp silo]

i need this goofy ahh rock to eclipse w1

otherwise its 900hrs/mob

[dapper prism]

Lol speaking of eclipse, just finished boa a few minutes ago 😄
https://i.imgur.com/pvS1wf5.png

Moved over to sand giants for the next one then back to poop

(yes i overshot those boas, forgot to move some alts)

[crisp silo]

dang 40M thats atleast a day

[dapper prism]

yeh forgot to loot bubo earlier and it ended up being 11h afk xD

[latent sigil]

I noticed that on the slab there are weapons with I, II, III, IV and V next to them. Some are filled out. How do I do the rest?

[crisp silo]

lucky you have doot so all yr char can kill

[crisp silo]

dungeon weapons, good luck

[latent sigil]

Ahhh of course. Thanks

[dapper prism]

that plus my kph is around 5m+ at all the mobs (w1)

[crisp silo]

ughhhhhhhhhh

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/nY0RV5l.png

[crisp silo]

gimme that doot

[dapper prism]

What dmg are you on? For like SB/ES ?

[crisp silo]

7B SB

14B ES

[dapper prism]

yeh, my kph is totally just because of doot and not the 100x more dmg ;p

[crisp silo]

10k mk

ooooo gold mk rock

dang that added .5M/hr

It appears that i have miscalculated its now 250hrs for 900M kills

[dapper prism]

Thats long

[lavish quiver]

If you are that low on kph then that isnt something you should focus

[crisp silo]

Ehhh i do agree, but not sure what else to afk on

Guess the answer is mob mats for alch

At least higher world ones

[dapper prism]

greenstack all mob mats?

You already got w1-4 superchow?

[crisp silo]

Supercowed w1

Working on w2 rn

Done w1-4 green

Like 1/4 of w5

[barren otter]

wouldnt hurt to just afk them on wurms

more keys never hurt

[lavish quiver]

or hampters if you still need those

[crisp silo]

I cant really make more troll sets cause of starfire bars

So imma go focus more sets

[dapper prism]

bars should be easy, salts are the only real timegated thing?

[crisp silo]

Im good on salts i think

[dapper prism]

Just send ur archers to combat with furnace talent maxed

and login every 2mins

make max stack of bars per load

[crisp silo]

Huh i need about 70k black salt

If i want to make 8 sets

Well then i guess i know what im doing now

[twilit goblet]

Currently finished chowing w1 to w3, for cooking should i push for more levels on corndog/eggs/cabbage?

or just push to 11 on all new dishes that ive unlocked

[dense turtle]

are the new boss obols worth farming for?seems nice for non active chars

[dapper prism]

I've got one to go: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dapper prism]

use toolbox or IE filter and organize by time

[twilit goblet]

currently looking at this

[crisp silo]

11 should be quite fast

[twilit goblet]

yea i do have some ladles

thinking of just dropping them all to get 11 on everything i have currently

[crisp silo]

Uhhhh maybe do the by lvls

Cause of vman talent

[twilit goblet]

oh rightt vman talent

[dapper prism]

yeh meant filter by just base time, least time not to diamond

btw toolbox is better for cooking

as it shows actual laddles etc.

[lavish quiver]

IE shows how many ladels if you hover over it

[crisp silo]

Usually ppl would want to go for 11, but this case seems to be too long, so cook based on lvls seems fine

[dapper prism]

hover vs instant display, idk but instant display is nicer, plus the speed meals at the top
https://i.imgur.com/qwbIbd0.png

[crisp silo]

Ehh its on the user then

[lavish quiver]

1 application vs 2 seperate for one instance ... id rather have it all in one

[ashen marsh]

omg i got 3 more golden nuggets than my previous record

......

does that ruin my rng for the next max one? lol

[dapper prism]

depends what your range was

[ashen marsh]

I can check my range?

[dapper prism]

on IE

[crisp silo]

I knida swap between applications cause toolbox usually has the newer stuff faster but its up to the user

[ashen marsh]

oh shit

[crisp silo]

IE also has some nice stats to know about

[dapper prism]

not since sludger basically ditched it since doot release? unless he's back on it?

[twilit goblet]

interesting, toolbox does seem pretty good

[crisp silo]

I mean he did add the option to toggle companions so maybe he has lost passion but will still update it. Albeit at a much slower rate

[north juniper]

Stiltmoles are the worst 💀

[sterile tiger]

gotta love being an hour and a half into fighting nightmare kattlekruk and him not even being on half health

its gonna be like a 4 hr fight or longer

[dapper prism]

Ppl just going to nightmare kattle to early on vman

[lavish quiver]

Sounds like something stronger future me deals with

[dapper prism]

about to do some nightmare kattle myself, just setting up last touches on DR
https://i.imgur.com/wwK3CW0.png

[lavish quiver]

I had no luck today

[crisp silo]

You got the dr equips?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/pGI6H0u.png

[bright current]

did you upload that to imgur just to send it here?

[north juniper]

I'm debating whether I should let it afk at 190% for 180k stiltmoles or just active afk with ES. Wormhole seems to cause a bit of a backup at the end.

[crisp silo]

Keychains?

[dapper prism]

ShareX does that stuff automatically

[bright current]

understandabl;e have a great day

[dapper prism]

Same as gif and vids

[dapper prism]

2x fomo DR

[crisp silo]

We ball

[dapper prism]

I am missing something somewhere

[crisp silo]

Obol?

[dapper prism]

ty, spark obol was on dk

[crisp silo]

Hehehe obols

[lavish quiver]

no molten cloak?

[dapper prism]

i do, image doesnt update unless you reopen it

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/9w2GUdp.png

obol + SB talent wasnt maxed on the combat preset

[crisp silo]

Just realised it says divine on your es

Lmao

[dapper prism]

Yeh.. when i started the game I thought you would commit certain chars to certain skills

[north juniper]

What's your SB kills at?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/xmxpcWW.png

Like the DK with Gaming in its name 👀

[crisp silo]

Ah you named it after skills aight

[dapper prism]

Divine just sounded better than divinity xD

[dapper prism]

only 12.4k, i really should active my SB some nights..

[north juniper]

Fair. Same here. Just trying to nab hampters and the recipes right now

[dapper prism]

especially with vman eclipse talent stuff it should be a lot easier now

Oh im happy i already finished my hampter grind

[north juniper]

I'll throw this out again if anyone has any insight. I was going to leave DK or bubo to farm statues overnight:

I'm debating whether I should let it afk at 190% for 180k stiltmoles or just active afk with ES. Wormhole seems to cause a bit of a backup at the end.

[dapper prism]

ES active will be better, filter out regular drops?

[north juniper]

He has a 190k carry cap on mats so that doesn't cause the issue

It's just the platforms

Purple ball of death just hangs at the wormhole mobs that are higher in HP

[dapper prism]

purple ball of death?

[north juniper]

The 3rd ES skill (I like to call it that)

[dapper prism]

chainbolt

[north juniper]

Yeah but it's more fun this way 💀

[dapper prism]

Mhm, but lightning is more of a deaths kill with its huge % 😄

Time to start a little grind:
https://i.imgur.com/HYDwFnM.png

[north juniper]

True. At around 130 Portal kills I start to hit a wall there. Just praying meteor and purple ball do gods work

[dapper prism]

wtf

That went.. quick

https://i.imgur.com/01tXIV9.png

2x entrances

[crisp silo]

Man

Gimme1

[dapper prism]

bb/Sb kph about to be happy too xD

[sly plank]

how come my drop rarity doesn’t go past 5.05x? do I just need more?

[dapper prism]

No, its because you're probably using the lab chip

At a certain point it waits for you to catch up on it

[sly plank]

oh!! thank you that makes so much sense

[crisp silo]

Funny how you can bypass the 5.00x drop rate limit when using the chip

[dapper prism]

Think its due to SB DR talent?

[crisp silo]

Could be

[dapper prism]

OMFG is this...

https://i.imgur.com/aPR9hLc.png

OMDFG

[north juniper]

Doesn't that just mean you're past 5 without the chip? Since it can't exceed 5?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/Cq1p66g.png

[crisp silo]

Gimme

[north juniper]

Where's that dang report button

Hold on it's around here somewhere

https://tenor.com/view/report-calling-police-im-disturbed-file-a-report-gif-14028288

[dapper prism]

Now i need that tooth pendant for the quest/trophy, right?

for this:
https://i.imgur.com/5bE9oXy.png

[crisp silo]

Scarf

[north juniper]

A bit unrelated but I started the dishwasher and kept hearing a bowl getting knocked. Finally found the damn thing after putting me ear to the dishwasher locating the sound.

[crisp silo]

Yeah pendent

[dapper prism]

wait a minute..

[crisp silo]

Plus 2 lucky lads

[dapper prism]

its just EQUIP?

so i can do nightmare on other characters now

and then just pass around the divine scarf once i get it?

[crisp silo]

Ye

Idk why so many ppl wanted 10

[dapper prism]

Idk why but thats nice but im also so damn lazy rn to move all DR stuff around

[crisp silo]

You just need 1

It dosent consume so its even better

[dapper prism]

lucky lads get a little spammy over time:
https://i.imgur.com/xj7f1fm.png

[crisp silo]

You may have enough

[dapper prism]

I think i do

[bright current]

inb4 luck lad becomes level up material for a god tier stamp

[lavish quiver]

Funny enough i deleted like 14 of them a bit before this update

back up to 10 but still

[dapper prism]

yeh, had also removed all of mine

[north juniper]

At this point LL should be a vial

I mean hell even the arcade pickle has one.

[bright current]

well thats literally his entire purpose?

[dapper prism]

unlocking obols to scare the cat was the main thing

[bright current]

thats normal pickle

[solemn yarrow]

WIld

[bright current]

the arcade one is used to get the vial, and i guess a slab +1

[dapper prism]

ah bobjack

[solemn yarrow]

Anyone a member of Hangover?

[modern plaza]

100 kills real quick 😄

[modern plaza]

GZ BIG TROPHY INC

[dapper prism]

Ty 🙂
Changing character atm, i wonder, does DK orb work for him ? 😮

[crisp silo]

It dont count moles i think

[dapper prism]

awh

[crisp silo]

Maybe like other mobs

Like the envrlope slimes

[modern plaza]

seems like too much work anyways with dk... bc only what +200% dr maybe for a lot more effort idk if worth it unless you struggle to get keys

[crisp silo]

I have 2000 slime envelopes still sitting here

[modern plaza]

save for big rift lvls in upcoming future w8 😄

[crisp silo]

Also the dr from dk is rerolls so its better than you think

Like 200 it drops 2x loot if im not mistaken

[modern plaza]

oh like 2x x 11x?

[crisp silo]

Im not too sure

@dapper prism you can confirm?

[dapper prism]

so orb doesnt work at kattle, confirmed.

[crisp silo]

Damn

Anyways how does dk orb reroll work?

[dapper prism]

pretty sure gummy bunny (from bundle/event) does get affected by orb though.

[opaque sun]

it uses gimmie gimmie mechanic

[dapper prism]

Mhmm first kill on DK and another orb

are nightmare orbs this common?! im only 13x DR

[opaque sun]

If you have 450 orb, any kill counts as 4 kill rolls, and also 50% chance it counts as 5 kill rolls

[crisp silo]

Ok so it drops 4x of loot

[opaque sun]

while like say ES wormhole boosts the drop rate it self

[crisp silo]

Es does the same right

[opaque sun]

Effectively similar, but slightly different

[tranquil surge]

does midas minded affect boss hp?

or mob only

[opaque sun]

Mob only

[tranquil surge]

meeean

[dapper prism]

ffs tyvm for the reminder.. forgot to activate midas -,-

[opaque sun]

Its free bonus against bosses

[dapper prism]

just dont forget to remove it

[tranquil surge]

you'll be able to tell

go to switch characters then hang on a minute?

whys my afk say 2k instead of 2m

especially on the higher up worlds

[crisp silo]

Its only mobs

Bruh

[tranquil surge]

i mean kills per hour

[opaque sun]

Since your farming is not fully effective due to survivability or something

[crisp silo]

Mk

[tranquil surge]

?

[crisp silo]

Multikill

[tranquil surge]

you've lost me what are on about

you*

[lavish quiver]

he wasnt asking actually what is wrong with his afk he was commenting about midas

[tranquil surge]

^

[crisp silo]

Ohhhb

Mb

[dapper prism]

13.48x => 14.77x Ty for Midas reminder 😄

DK gonna drop me 5 pendants b2b now

Just need a few minutes

[crisp silo]

Should i max midas

[tranquil surge]

makes sense tbh

its only viable for bossing so

if you can afford too i would

[dapper prism]

You can, doesn't have a disadvantage as the only proper use will be at bossing for now. or once you have a ton extra dmg on DK/Bubo that can still 1 shot what they do

[crisp silo]

Hmmm

[tranquil surge]

other options try run the no prayer 1/5th idea

[dapper prism]

the +hp doesnt affect bosses

[dapper prism]

That just sounds terrible o.o

[crisp silo]

I can afford it

[tranquil surge]

no curses every prayer sounds meean tho

[lavish quiver]

I saw someone said its bad

[tranquil surge]

its so lazy its great haha

[dapper prism]

most curses dont do much

[crisp silo]

Great lord tony says it bad

[tranquil surge]

i mean i guess if you arent worried about the negatives but some prayers would be op even at 20% of the max potential

[elder osprey]

the no paryer is a lie it have a big curses and it is you only got 20% of all and no big mobs

[dapper prism]

But what prayer really affects you negatively? you lose out on so much positives and most negatives are semi-irrelevant, plus some stuff won't work like giants

[tranquil surge]

i see

right thats a stitch up then

no giant mobs would suck

the 3d printer one is a good example

the massive xp loss slows down progression

[dapper prism]

how is the xp loss massive?

[lavish quiver]

its actually not as bad as you think

[crisp silo]

What massive

[tranquil surge]

i've leveled it up

[crisp silo]

Its additive

[tranquil surge]

and its at 39%

[crisp silo]

Just lvl up your exp bubble

[dapper prism]

most skills have like 1500% or 2000% losing not even 100% wont do much

[elder osprey]

it is not a big exp loss you cant even fill it

[dapper prism]

3D sample prayer maxed is only -87% xp and it's not even supposed to be maxed (i messed it up)

[opaque sun]

5.00x to 4.60x is a well worth cost for the big sample boost

[tranquil surge]

so just counter it with xp bubble?

[crisp silo]

Upgrade your sample talent

[dapper prism]

It's additive, check your current xp multipliers

[crisp silo]

It goes up to 18%

[opaque sun]

There are many many many sources of exp to easily offset the penalty

[dapper prism]

I mean, sample rate caps at 90%. I maxed the prayer but you barely have to level it to get to your 90% cap

[crisp silo]

Yea

[opaque sun]

There are no other sources to get your sample rate to 90% unless you use royal sampler

[dapper prism]

So if you just level it the way you need to, then the -xp would be even less worse, but it's already barely bad

[tranquil surge]

where do i find the multiplier?

for samples

[opaque sun]

Construction skill

In character sheet

[crisp silo]

In constructiom skill, gotta click on it

[tranquil surge]

ahh right ok

1 sec

ahh i see3

im at 70

roughly

is it per character i suppose tho

[crisp silo]

Per char

[tranquil surge]

because of dk and and vman

alriight sweet

[crisp silo]

Just use the prayer to get the 90%

[opaque sun]

1.3x more stuff printed is big

[tranquil surge]

true

id have to resample everything for it to take effect tho yeah?

[lavish quiver]

Yea

[elder osprey]

yes

[tranquil surge]

will wait a week or so then il level up the prayer more then

and activate it on the other characters

ive only got maybe 3 or 4 chars with it activated

so i could power level the others

[dapper prism]

My point was you dont need to max it. im at 72% Sample without Royal prayer.
It caps at 90% so i only need 18% from prayer

20/20 Prayer = +43% sample -87% XP
3/20 Prayer = +18% sample -35% XP

So you could just keep the prayer pretty low, hit max sample and not lose "as much XP" but its still just additive xp to all the multipliers you have, Which is minimal when most skills will hover at 15x to 25x +/- and you're losing barely even 0.5x of it

[tranquil surge]

mmmm

il check the current level of it

but im pretty sure its below 10

i got what you ment

[dapper prism]

So if you want to to "properly min/max" you don't have to max it, i just like having things maxed xD
Probably not the best idea on some prayers

[lavish quiver]

im at +30 i also went a bit to far

[tranquil surge]

its 5/20

so leave it at that comepletely?

or upto 10

im thinking maybe leave it and level other places to gain samplesize

[dapper prism]

You got Salt Lick, Vial, PO Box, Merit Shop and i think a Cauldron upgrade?

May be forgetting some thing(s)

[tranquil surge]

arcade

sometimes

although very small it helps

salt licks already maxed

[elder osprey]

the starskill it self give 18%

[tranquil surge]

po box and vials are lacking

merit shops maxed

[lavish quiver]

Sample it bubble

[dapper prism]

So lots of sources all coming together, you still need the prayer, but just not maxed, barely a few points even

[tranquil surge]

mmm so what would you say a safe level is

[dapper prism]

For me with my math about i would only need it at 3/20 xD

[tranquil surge]

right

so 5 is plenty then

as eventually il hit cap

[dapper prism]

But also
10/20 is -57% xp
20/20 is -87% xp
That's only 0.3x more which at the end is honestly nothing

Click Items - > Skill info then click on skills and check your multi

0.3x on 15x or 25x etc isn't much

[lavish quiver]

You can get that exp back from grind time easy with CC

[dapper prism]

wait does GT give skill xp?

[gentle furnace]

No

[dapper prism]

or you just mean the class xp?

[lavish quiver]

Just class

[dapper prism]

oh right, yeh the class xp is whatever anyways, GT op op

[lavish quiver]

Lots of other skill exp sources as well tho

[dapper prism]

btw just me or is this prayer like the worst thing ever... especially for it being such a high requirement? xD
https://i.imgur.com/lSDSkfe.png

If it was to summon 2 giant mobs then i would at least understand it..

[gaunt shale]

has anyone managed to beat the developer score in poing yet ? or more, is there any strategy to getting a high score in it ? after just a few goals the game gets super stuttery and laggy, seems impossible to get a high score bcus of that

[dapper prism]

believe some ppl have shown 30k's

[lavish quiver]

i got close

[dapper prism]

but yeh, even with a high end pc, nothing u can do about those freeze frames really

[dapper prism]

thought it was 25k? or are there 2 achievements

[lavish quiver]

Achievement is 25k his score tho is higher

[dapper prism]

oh i see

damn that one was close there

[gaunt shale]

I havent even made it past 5k points lmao

[lavish quiver]

Yea the ball goes so fast and lag its hard at that point

[gaunt shale]

(but then again, my highest fishing score is 23 after 2 half years of playing, so lol, prop just my skill issue too)

[lavish quiver]

You have to learn how to bait the ai to go to one side then spike the ball straight across so it has no chance

[dapper prism]

works pretty fine until you get those frame skips/freeze frames

[lavish quiver]

Yup

[dapper prism]

still only at 7k

[lavish quiver]

go to low population server when playing

and go to a map that doesnt have a lot going on in the background

[gaunt shale]

havent even thought about that, maybe I shouldnt have my ES active farm in the background lol

[lavish quiver]

Yea that makes it awful

[dapper prism]

Nawh best time to do it xD

[gaunt shale]

feels like a waste to be playing that minigame for such long time and have the character not do anything usefull

[lavish quiver]

Same rules apply when doing the mining minigame btw with low pop server

[gaunt shale]

trying to think of like map with least going on, w3 where the trapping guy chills I guess

[dapper prism]

kill a boss and stay in the lobby/room maybe, only thing there would be portal?

[gaunt shale]

smart

good idea

[ocean fox]

For NBLB atom is it 15 percent chance for all of those to level up as a batch or is it individual procs?
Like can NBLB mix and match or is it either or

[untold saffron]

Chance per I believe

[ocean fox]

so does that mean there is an order to it?
Like if the first 7 proc for the first 15 bubbles then the 8th one is one that can upgrade any
Will it prioritize my level 28 bubble or any

[tranquil surge]

does afk gains rate cap at 150 or does it go higher

[lavish quiver]

Goes higher

Some things have a soft cap at 150% tho, cant remember exactly what

So like that chip that gives DR up to 5x you will have to make up that extra first before breaking through 150%

[crisp silo]

it will prioitise the lowest lvl

[remote sluice]

Should i change on vman skills and max power Orb if my char are at least 300 lvl? Or not

[tardy dragon]

How does snail reset chance work? For example 80% to succeed and if fails 10% to reset. Does it mean there is 10% chance to reset or 2% as in 10% of 20 which is fail chance?

[lavish quiver]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yz9rRDFCfBYn4UKOBs9fYBKBjaoapiS-e_HjLjSdDHE/edit?usp=sharing

[tranquil surge]

how does the crystal mob kill work in skull shop?

it never even spawns for me

[hollow wasp]

getting my BB to lvl 100 now for this, this sounds super op

[stiff prairie]

Definitely helps

Stamps help more, but it helps

[dapper prism]

It's essentially multiple individual calculations.

NBLB from the lab will hit your lowest bubbles from bubble 1-15 (page 1-3) and NOT page 4-5 across all cauldron colors.
The amount of levels gained and how many bubbles depends on the lab node, lab jewel, merit shop, artifact (amberite), Gaming super bit unlocks.

Then for page 1-5 (bubble 1-25) it is based on the unlock from atom collider (Lithium) This will be a 15% chance for each cauldron individually. Typically bubble 16-25 will be lower than 1-15 since it is hit by nblb a lot less and they are more pricey. Meaning the atom collider proc will hit 16-25 (more likely, still the lowest bubble out of all the bubbles of that colored cauldron)
Meaning each cauldron, orange, green, purple, yellow, individually have that 15% chance to be hit (on the lowest bubble) due to the atom collider one.

Keep in mind nothing under level 5 is hit, so certain things may be worth not leveling right away.

That's as far as i've been made aware of how it works, hope this helps.

[pale slate]

If i have bonus no more praying (If no Prayers equipped, get 1/5th bonus of all prayers, and no curses) am i able to spawn giant monsters or that is beeing viewed as curse ?

[lavish quiver]

No you cant

[pale slate]

Thank you have to keep it in mind then

[dapper prism]

giants dont spawn at all

Most of the times or situations, that perk is just not worth it

[pale slate]

I am just lazy to swap around all the time so i find it convinient but wasn't sure about giants

[dapper prism]

how many prayer slots are you on?

[pale slate]

8 as of now but that is not the issue the cursee ususlly troubles me, still haven't pushed to the end of w5 so extra free accu and such helps

[elder osprey]

can silver pop obol not roll 5%DR ?

then i just used 260 obols F forthe fun of it 😦

[prisma drift]

Yep

[lavish quiver]

Did you have fun at least?

[elder osprey]

so so must i loved seeing it go to 2%

[dapper prism]

Any of them are always just +/- 1

[lavish quiver]

You must have upgraded the bronze prior to upgrading to silver

[dapper prism]

Should also always try and reroll stuff at base version (e.g. bronze pop or silver dice) for the cheapest return/chance)

[elder osprey]

ok ty good to know now cos i have to fix famliy next

[sweet mountain]

Is there a way to get this over 100?

[prisma drift]

850 urns when recipe

[dapper prism]

at 1k 😄

[prisma drift]

I wish haha

Gonna end up being 2k lol

[lavish quiver]

I must have got lucky with that cause i got it around 150 urns

[prisma drift]

average is 1k

[dapper prism]

Yeh, so exrom got it at 150, that means you must suffer and get it at 1850 now.

[lavish quiver]

lol

[dapper prism]

Ill just get it tomorrow at 1k flat.

[prisma drift]

Mmm how bout I get it now and you just do the whole 2k

[dapper prism]

No plz no

with my NM Kattle earlier that could be though

[prisma drift]

Hey your DR and dmg is better

Take one for the team

[dapper prism]

Saw these? xD
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[prisma drift]

Yeah you used your luck

Have fun getting 5k urns

[dapper prism]

Thats why i need to go to bed now

to reset my rng

[lost depot]

There's a soft cap at 150% because of the last construction statue, but it doesn't take much to get past it

[limber mason]

finding it hard to keep my accuracy above 150% in world 5 stage 5 for my DK, any tips?

Upgraded the alchemy bubbles, used the prayers, and now I have 32k accuracy, but can't sqeeze anything else.

[fallow pawn]

damn having all 5 worlds eldrich skulls gives SO MUCH damage

from 1t to 4t+

[deep lodge]

The W5 all stats merit could help you build up your accuracy stat. Another thing you could do is apply W5 stones using a wizard on your tools and then equip them on your DK to boost wisdom. Also, put points into the first purple bubble for more wisdom

By the way, for the carbon atom: Is the "wizard dmg" referring to wizard characters, or wizard towers? The first one seems more likely, but most guides for tower defense mention their atom bonus so i'm not sure

[fallow pawn]

tower

its the main way to progress further in tower defense, big dmg increase

[deep lodge]

These levels just keep getting more expensive, guess I need to wait for construction levels to go up a bit more

[iron plume]

Isn’t it referring to just the Tower for max level, 2% is the character damage buff.

[iron plume]

It’s a lot cheaper than it was 😂

[deep lodge]

That's what I understood at first, but I guess endgamers notice the damage difference

[deep lodge]

Yeah the build cost nerf is really good, but still i'm starting to get back to things being too expensive for me ^^

[iron plume]

I can upgrade mine and see if the damage goes up lol

It’s certainly not intended to be a big damage buff either way, the 2% is fixed so any damage buff you would only see when increasing the level of the towers in construction

[fallow pawn]

it is noticably, im not that far in upgrading towers in terms of endgamers but its already at :

[iron plume]

Yeah, I think the question was if that is accurate or not.

[fallow pawn]

im currently upgrading the cheapest contruct first always because of construction mastery

so towers arent thaaaat high

it is the difference between 120 and 130+ waves cleared, not sure how high it is exactly needed

[tacit tulip]

I have 4k urns and no recipe, so good luck 😉

[prisma drift]

I will just not get the recipe if that happens

I’ll give up

Vman staying at diabolical gloves forever r

[tacit tulip]

I'm preparing some upgrades for my vman to attempt to get it guaranteed

[pulsar cliff]

That's brutal.

[tacit tulip]

I reckon I can get the afk time down to about 20 days

[pulsar cliff]

How many kills are you at??

[tacit tulip]

about 600mil

been using ES with 14 drop rate for 6 weeks

[prisma drift]

Idk if you can get the afk to 20 days

I used the DR chart and was at like 100 days afk

At 12x lol

Although I didn’t mega build it

[tacit tulip]

my vman can get to about 16, and then you spam the other stuff (respawn speed, afk%) to optimise it

It /should/ be possible

[prisma drift]

I just didn’t think you could get that low

Maybe I need to afk it

[tacit tulip]

might try and get the trophy from kattle first too for the massive DR gain

[prisma drift]

My vman is not 450

So that trophy ain’t happening

[ocean fox]

TYSM very thorough and it seems in line with what I've observed(seeing a mix and match of bubbles being upgraded)

[tacit tulip]

That's part of what I mean by optimising for it, gotta improve my account

[barren anvil]

Hello. How do i handle the rather bad odds of me getting a new bubble? W5 bubbles 1~2 %. Just go for them?

[prisma drift]

My vman is slow at 390 haha

[tacit tulip]

I've got bubo going 24/7 to spam grind time atm

[prisma drift]

Those last 60 are gonna need me to slam grind time

[tacit tulip]

the divine scarf will be great for it too

Full kattle
Divine scarf
afk% rings
respawn keychains

[pulsar cliff]

Pretty much. Cap out your cauldron upgrades, run Bubo, you'll hit it in no time.

The divine scarf is bonkers lmao

[ocean fox]

Small follow up question
When toolbox claims that there are two bubbles of each color that can be hit, how is that possible? Unless I am not really understanding the explanation, if each cauldron gets the 15 percent roll per day, how could there be two possible bubbles of each color. Unless Toolbox is slightly misleading or I'm misunderstanding something

[pulsar cliff]

I think those are all the atoms that COULD be increased by the lithium upgrade

Nope.

No idea actually lol.

[tacit tulip]

I'd have thought that's what it is lol

when a bubble gets hit by the 15% upgrade chance it stays in its tier

So if one of your yellow bubbles gets hit by it, multikill bubble will go up
If a second one also gets hit byit, cooking bubble will go

[pulsar cliff]

Oooooh

[spice girder]

im so dumb can someone explain this optimal distrubution for smithing point ?

[tacit tulip]

That's from a time when levelling up smithing was still kinda important

[pulsar cliff]

^

Now it's just speed.

[tacit tulip]

These days, as long as you have the bag capacity, you go pure speed

[spice girder]

okaay, thanks guys

[crisp silo]

holy shit im fkin printing bars

[pulsar cliff]

?

[tacit tulip]

hope lava waits to release the update til tomorrow, I'm at my mothers and don't wanna open the game on my phone

[pulsar cliff]

There hasn't even been a mention of an update has there??

[tacit tulip]

beta client updated last night

so it's soon

[pulsar cliff]

Oooooh

[ancient vine]

What update

👀

[tacit tulip]

unless there's any serious issues the release tends to be 1-2 days after beta

[pulsar cliff]

Makes sense

[crisp silo]

where did you find this

thats sick

[tacit tulip]

https://steamdb.info/app/1476970/depots/

[crisp silo]

thats cool

[teal lynx]

What Map is best to grind Obol Fragments?

[pulsar cliff]

I always like Snelbies for that.

[little burrow]

Dont know if its best but I farmed them at snelbies

[teal lynx]

Okay, will try that ^^ Thanks

[tacit tulip]

Snelbies or sand pots - I tend to go sandpots 'cause of the glass you get too

[little burrow]

Is cattlecruk chest and leggings even worth building? Looks worse than magma to me

[prisma drift]

I heard it’s good for afk because of respawn

[tacit tulip]

Worse damage, but better for afk cause of the respawn speed

[forest hinge]

what is the best way to boost cauldron speed to get bubbles faster

[severe scaffold]

for divinity you go left offering till right is 100%, just started it

[little burrow]

So active magma and rest cattle?

[prisma drift]

Kruk armor was more damage than magma for me

[tacit tulip]

I think it's mostly the shoes are a loss, the chest/legs are about the same, and the helmet is an increase

[prisma drift]

I think I got extra upgrade slots tho

[tacit tulip]

you lose a bit of money gain from the money bubble