lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sick sentinel]

i do know that efficiency isnt the craziest thing for trapping tho

[fading cape]

Pretty good skill with atom collidor bonus

[tacit tulip]

true, trapping and worship kinda had crappy eff scaling

I've not retrapped since getting the vman talent to 245...should probably do that

may just go ham on froges as mentioned

[opaque sun]

call me ash is a nice linear growing bubble, but yeah sucks that efficiency impact of trapping itself is not amazing

[fading cape]

trapping is the one I ALWAYS forget to reset

When hunter came out got upgrade to set for everyone I did it and it was like 20x what I was getting. Once you get far enough in alchemy and salt lick you just completely forget about it

[serene solstice]

finaly I got it

[pulsar cliff]

Cape time/

[opaque sun]

9 more scarves to go?

[heavy moth]

on nm or normal

[tacit tulip]

Ok so plan:

1. get divine scarf
2. give it, and respawn keychains to Vman

Calculate time for 50mil drop

????

profit

[sick sentinel]

no printer go brrr

[fading cape]

It took setting all my cards to damage cards. But 100B

[tacit tulip]

I'll live, we're 6 weeks into me wasting time for ES

[crisp silo]

Come to w4 qns, we are tryna calc that

[sterile tiger]

gotta love 1 shotting normal kattlekruk but cant beat chaotic in 30 s

[serene solstice]

nightmare

[serene solstice]

yes

[serene solstice]

would be nice xD

[sterile tiger]

how?

this is all i can get

[fading cape]

I really really hate to be this guy.....

But it's alchemy....

[sterile tiger]

ik 😦

[fading cape]

Particularly LOTS of bubbles at 300 through atoms

[sterile tiger]

i didnt start alchemy until halfway through world 4

[fading cape]

I think my biggest contributors are alchemy bubbles at 300, and 115 green stacks

[sterile tiger]

not a single vial till then or sigil and only like a few bubbles

[sterile tiger]

yeah im working on greenstacks

atm im on 5 but ill have 20 by tmrw morning

[echo crag]

how many eclipse skulls ?

[fading cape]

zero

[echo crag]

not even gmush ?

[fading cape]

nope

[opaque sun]

wanna get those all red skulls at least

[fading cape]

Now that I just sampled after getting all divinity and hit my personal goal, it's time to take everyone out of lab and re-do gods to start getting eclipse skulls, super chow, and kattlekruk drops

I also really need to get everyone out there collecting DNA to get the last couple pets from each world

[sharp badger]

Can you remind me why Green Stacks are important again?

[echo crag]

im not looking forward to batterie farming for w4 splicers

[fading cape]

1% damage per stack

[cosmic tendon]

Lab node near the end

[sharp badger]

ha yes thank you

[echo crag]

lab node and jewel

[fading cape]

I took a week away camping and that's where I left everyone. In august I go away again and they'll all be at stiltmoles

[crisp silo]

Isnt gmush money?

[echo crag]

gmush is money, green stack is dmg

[echo crag]

both green easy to confuse XD

[sterile tiger]

if u get this its its 2.5% per green stack

[sharp badger]

ok thank you ^^

[echo crag]

green stack is 3.5% with the jewel

[sterile tiger]

oh yeah

good as

[fading cape]

quick weird question. Does anything odd use Krakens?

That could use a lot in one shot?

[echo crag]

card doubler

which is up atm

[cosmic tendon]

10mil and it’s in shop now and again in 2 weeks

Wp vial too

[fading cape]

oh that'd be it

lost my green stack on kraken and was like...where did 9m go

[echo crag]

worth the lost of 3.5% dmg

[fading cape]

absolutely worth

[opaque sun]

yeah you just click chips not looking what it costs now

[echo crag]

just need 9more of that chip XD

[cosmic tendon]

Get it in 2 weeks and then ur down to 8

Which is probably not even that many years

[sterile tiger]

slab is such a pain in the ass

[untold saffron]

the slab is my favourite thing in the game

[sterile tiger]

takes so long

[untold saffron]

I've played for 6 months and I'm only missing about 75 items

that ain't so bad

[sterile tiger]

ive played for about the same but all the early game shit i cant get is pissing me off

[opaque sun]

opinion divides between those who been dropping stuff on ground like a habit, and those who was not aware of that

[fading cape]

I did all world 1 quests on all characters without dropping any materials before I even knew the discord existed

[sterile tiger]

like all the chests from early quests from scripticus

[untold saffron]

he auto-gave people a load of that awhile back didn't he?

[fading cape]

So I have no way of getting any world 1 quest items

[sterile tiger]

yep same goes

thats everything im missing

[untold saffron]

buying doot for 1 carrot horror - pm me

[sterile tiger]

ill have another 30 or so done tmrw

[crisp silo]

i see themstamps

[untold saffron]

look at all those free dungeon slots👀

[crisp silo]

wait a few of these are sooo free

[sterile tiger]

ik but i cbf doing dungoen'

[opaque sun]

surprised to see you dont have slabbed those critters

[sterile tiger]

havent been bothered getting honkers yet

[fading cape]

lot of smithing stuff in there if you took a day and focused on finishing up quest stuff

[crisp silo]

soul bags seem a lil lackin

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/0af39b85184484cc948a6e0adbdffad2.png

you should have these anyway

[sterile tiger]

cbf making them lol

[sacred monolith]

Wasn't there a pin in one of the channels showing the skills that required targeting a mob and delaying others from being used?

[fading cape]

also clearly not buying enough alchemy obols

[sterile tiger]

never have

[fading cape]

haven't done W2 dungeon either it looks like

[untold saffron]

i'm still missing W2 dungeon stuff

[sterile tiger]

not once

and ive only done w3 dungeon 2 or 3 times

[fading cape]

I've gotta focus on dungeon hard, and then do a boatload of obols

[untold saffron]

oh no the tree and shovel votes

[serene solstice]

yaaay

[fading cape]

oh think that's bad? I did Yondergreen in order to make and drop the quest items for W3 trophy... THEN FORGOT TO DROP YONDER TOKEN

[untold saffron]

D:

been putting off those quests for months

[fading cape]

same

I'm too traumatized by my first attempt

[untold saffron]

wasting bank space though because I already made some of it for the slab

[sterile tiger]

a few of those fishing lines take 2 seconds to get

[opaque sun]

if it wasnt for the damn shrine quest

[fading cape]

The ones I'm missing are from the quests. Don't take long, but I'm lazy. Hoping to find a day of motivation to just go through and do all missing slab stuff

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/5ab80fc15667f2fb65cab7c8cef68913.png

[sterile tiger]

that was me today lol

[untold saffron]

theres still some free stuff on there

[thin rose]

Slab?

[untold saffron]

yeye

[thin rose]

Why is there dupes

Or am I trippin

[sterile tiger]

im waiting on shop reset to buy 2 more stamps to do pigea quest and ill get like 5 things done after that

[zinc zenith]

What's the max level for library talents?

[untold saffron]

the dungeon weapons? they're tiered

[thin rose]

OH

Makes sense

[untold saffron]

245

[thin rose]

My b I'm braindead

[fading cape]

Looks like you gotta do the treasure hunts

[untold saffron]

but dadddd i don't want to

[thin rose]

Respect for being a fellow idle skilling gamer

Don't see many nowadays

[untold saffron]

i should go back to the dungeon tbh

[thin rose]

Wonder when the next idle skilling update is coming

[untold saffron]

i unlocked the top weapon awhile back

[sterile tiger]

ight im heading to bed c yas

[thin rose]

Goodnight

[prisma drift]

Do your picnic quests haha

[untold saffron]

you right

but i haven't even had you make me a frost prince yet

[prisma drift]

KoF is big for samples

[prisma drift]

I haven’t even gave myself that trophy yet

[opaque sun]

Or better the IS trophy

[prisma drift]

KoF takes 3 days IS takes a month haha

Depends if you wanna invest a month

[opaque sun]

Kof still best for worship

[prisma drift]

I abhor playing IS on steam

[untold saffron]

oh

kof isn't character specific? that makes it more tempting

[prisma drift]

Wish I could use mobile

[opaque sun]

You just need the picnic npc tokens

So the daily can be done by anyone

[prisma drift]

Just buy the shop items you need ahead of time

Shop doesn’t sell 10 sculpting tools a day

So you need to buy a couple before hand to do it in 3 days

[opaque sun]

effectively you are limited 6 times a day due to chisel

[untold saffron]

i thought it was 30 times on the same character

the more you know

guess I'll do that later

[prisma drift]

I wouldn’t have ever done it if so lol

Hard enough to get me to take 3 days to do it

[noble mesa]

+1 slab , yayyyyy

[prisma drift]

The most random family page I’ve ever seen lol

Usually it’s all DR

[solemn rampart]

What are all sources of divinity exp/points gain? All I know are style choices, stiltmole card and wizard skills.

[opaque sun]

idleon insight

[noble mesa]

Yaeee , i need to , now working on magma on all charecters

[cosmic tendon]

The source source

[prisma drift]

Magma on all characters sucks just because of salt

[solemn rampart]

That'll help. Thanks.

[prisma drift]

I could get it done so fast if I wasn’t constantly waiting for nullo

[noble mesa]

Yeaa , so troll then magma , and some have kuttel

[weak echo]

Is idleon efficiency .com broken or something? it show i killed mobs i didnt even reach yet

[tacit tulip]

oooh do you have a vman?

[weak echo]

yea i made him like 2 days ago

[cosmic tendon]

Definitely seems like a vman thing but where’d the first 10k come from

[tacit tulip]

Your guess is as good as mine, my bets some weirdness about kattle being added

[viscid sandal]

is there a sailing trade calendar with accurate times of when the trade option switches?

[cosmic tendon]

When u do a vman speedrun it wipes vmans deathnote record and gives +2mil in place

[tacit tulip]

Idleon toolbox has it, there's an excel sheet too. Note if you desync from playing ES you need to cloudsave for it to be on time

[weak echo]

but how the hell it added it to the mobs i didnt reach?XD

[tacit tulip]

the game thinks you have >1 mole kill, so when you did a vman run it set him to 2mil kills

we just don't know why on the mole.

[weak echo]

well, the problem is only idleoneff .com deathnote works well

[viscid sandal]

ty, I could've sworn it said 1400 for each trade.. maybe i'm going crazy

[fathom lagoon]

Suggggggma

[weak echo]

tell me how eff site shows biggole mole killed but deathnote in game dont, so wth? XD

[fathom lagoon]

I’d trust death note

[cosmic tendon]

Is wrong

[tacit tulip]

Eff is a database extractor that puts the data into a readable format, but the game only tells you mob kills once you've got to them

[cosmic tendon]

Nbd carryon as if u have 0 kills there for now

[tacit tulip]

My money is on once you get to the map your 2 mil kills will come into play

[weak echo]

i guess i will know in after week+ XD

[cosmic tendon]

And even if it doesn’t it would once u speedrun anyways

[fathom lagoon]

Holy shit got 12 red frisbees from 200k kills on wood mushrooms. Is that rare?

[weak echo]

i had a little over 1m at everything up to w3, but after 2 vman runs some got 4m, some 2m, and i dont get it at all i didnt spend any time on sand giants after getting 1m, but i have 5m in efff too, this is broken, in death note is 3mln XD

[cosmic tendon]

It’s their main drop

[tacit tulip]

Multikill works on frisbees

[dire cloud]

Hi

[tacit tulip]

So you got 1 drop, with 12 mk

[fathom lagoon]

Ohhh nice ok

[cosmic tendon]

I already wrote this but speedrun wipes vmans deathnote contribution and replaces with 2 mil

Check kill counts on cards on vman

[fading dust]

Is it better for my crappy boats to go to 2-hour islands (no chance for artifacts) or 10-hour islands (chance for artifacts)

[tacit tulip]

Depends how long it'd take to upgrade them

[loud isle]

Anyone having syncing issues between web and iOS? Progress from web doesn’t seem to sync down to iOS

[weak echo]

yea i get it but why on site and in deathnote are different numbers if they are from one source? xd this doesnt make much sense

[eager zinc]

Is it worth putting on doing a speed run when you only have 140 mil damage with it on?

[tacit tulip]

Fibers is almost never worth it

It only has two uses: pushing kills when you have 0 MK

Everywhere else it's a net loss

[granite grove]

prob only useful pushing new maps if not enough dmg for MK

[cosmic tendon]

Issue is very likely on IE end. Possibly a sync issue that will hopefully sort itself out. Seems like it’s somehow related to that vman deathnote patch

[eager zinc]

Yea I didn't really think it was worth it either

[cosmic tendon]

Isn’t it good for deathnote as long as u check that it doesn’t take u down a tier?

[tacit tulip]

Technically yeah though i can't remember how the damage calc works

If it's halving your damage you'll always go down a tier

[loud isle]

If you can get to 1 portal further than your current best then it’s worth it

[gray thicket]

What does this gold nugget thing do?

[loud isle]

Multiplies your gamer points

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I think it’s bad to have it that lvled

[queen lichen]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[gray thicket]

Fr?

By this much?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah it’s a really big leap in gaming

You should get a 1k+ soonish

[granite grove]

yes, its an actual multiplier on bits

[cosmic tendon]

Then big increases get rare

[true oar]

Its low i have 40k

[gray thicket]

[eager zinc]

I haven't really done it in a while but I did go up 100 mil damage on WW since I did it last time

[granite grove]

you get x74.6 more bits compared to if you dont have it

[loud isle]

I had a 2.8k gold nugget but lost it to a weird sync issue, back to 1.9k for me

[gray thicket]

[cosmic tendon]

But gaming factors in big increases all the major/best bit upgrades scale massively

[loud isle]

Funny meme or cry for help?

[gray thicket]

cry for help

I don't know what soonish is

[cosmic tendon]

It’s rng

So could get rly unlucky and it never happens

[loud isle]

Yup, I’ve been playing world 5 since release and am only on 1.9k

[granite grove]

soon-ish = kinda soon

[cosmic tendon]

It’s one of the great dividers of ppls gaming speed progression

[gray thicket]

OH

[cosmic tendon]

Probably the divider

[granite grove]

-ish suffix is basically a word for "kinda like X thing"

[cosmic tendon]

That and then new plant unlocks for the last 2

[noble mesa]

Im stack on 16k like forever

[granite grove]

my old account still doesnt have chem plant and stuck on 3k nugget

[gray thicket]

Thanks for that

[granite grove]

lava rng experience

[loud isle]

World 5 is tedious af like that

[cosmic tendon]

I have an 8-9k nugget but meanwhile I’ve probably gone up more than 9k from other multis since I got it

[coral goblet]

how do i get the other boxs? i just finished getting all 6 boxs unlocked

[cosmic tendon]

Unlock last carrier

There’s 6

[granite grove]

less of tedious but more of frustating with those rng and forced to be more active (sailing chest limits for example)

[coral goblet]

isnt that the last

nvm had to zone out

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah change map

U just unlocked it

[gray thicket]

[loud isle]

Too many mechanics to keep up with

[gray thicket]

The shovel is amazing

[cosmic tendon]

If u get doot then there’s not enough mechanics

[loud isle]

I receive: doot
You receive: slime

[cosmic tendon]

Best I can do is a f2p untradeable molti

[loud isle]

Where I’m from, I can top up my phone for €20, get unlimited data for the month, then spend the €20 on google play store

[gray thicket]

What does the squirrel do?

[cosmic tendon]

U mean ur phone plan gives u equal credit in App Store?

[cosmic tendon]

Gathers acorns over time

[gray thicket]

Do I click it?

[cosmic tendon]

Then sells u 2 different upgrades for those acorns

Yeah click to collect and bring up the “acorn shop”

[tranquil surge]

whaaaat

i just unlocked the 6th shipment box

[gray thicket]

[tranquil surge]

thought i get new upgrades now tho?

[cosmic tendon]

Just click it when u go to collect other stuff

[loud isle]

Yup, it’s some old plan they were giving out to get customers so myself an all my friends jumped on it. Now they keep calling us to change to their new plan where they take the €20 in exchange for your plan

[tranquil surge]

but nothings showing up

[cosmic tendon]

Change map

And go back

[tranquil surge]

chur

that worked

[gray thicket]

What should I buy? plants grow faster or plants give x times bits?

[cosmic tendon]

Lmao yea that does sound pretty close to free phone plan

[tranquil surge]

whats the best box to go for if you just unlocked that one

max damage or?

[solemn rampart]

I'm barely able to beat nightmare Kruk with a berserker if I spend 10 minutes actively micromanaging it. I have to do that with voidwalker too at some point. How can I possibly even make that managable?

[loud isle]

Yup, so I get to use my phone and spend money on phone games lmao

[cosmic tendon]

I do more bits over cycle timer

[cosmic tendon]

But it’s a matter of perspective: are u getting free phone plan or are u getting free games lol

[loud isle]

Free games because I’d pay for the phone either way

[cosmic tendon]

Well congrats on the free games and may that lead u to doot and beyond

[cosmic tendon]

My bit multi is 9 lvls higher than growth cycle and costs a bit over 3x

[versed sapphire]

how do i farm class xp on bubo? its only level 86

[cosmic tendon]

And I’d still hit multi over timer if my harvest lets me afford it

[cosmic tendon]

Food afk w5 map

[loud isle]

Hopefully I’ll be able to trade peeps some good pets when the time comes

[versed sapphire]

the first one?

[cosmic tendon]

Furthest one u can get to. Check afk info and use exp build

U should be able to put him to 150 in a few days

[gray thicket]

Thank you so much

[cosmic tendon]

Np, note I’m not saving for 3 harvests to upgrade cycle time. If I can afford an upgrade I usually just go for it

I only really actually save up for new garden slots, imports, and superbits

[pallid quail]

For the rift needing 180 on orb of remembrance. Is it just a matter of making the orb last long enough? Or is there a trick to this?

[echo crag]

move speed plus orb max lvl

[pallid quail]

Alright, thanks. Time to just let him level and try again later then.

[opaque sun]

more orb duration, more shockwave levels for penetration, and move speed

[elder osprey]

for dics obol is it not best to farm normal W2 boss to got the must for your keys ?

[opaque sun]

You can also use valentine slime envelope to cheese orb kills

if you are just limiting yourself to boss, normal should be fine. But people just auto dk on sand pots if they want dice obols

[elder osprey]

ahh ok why not potato they have higher drop rate ?

[granite grove]

potato map spread is kinda too long for DK, ig, also many platforms

[cosmic tendon]

U want a dk layout and ur getting most of them from crystals

And u farm glass shards for stamp at the same time

[elder osprey]

ok i well get to farming 😄

[fallen plume]

Does anyone have rough damage numbers needed to beat the new nightmare boss on each class? Should be easy with my mages but on my first attempts on Blood Berserker and Vman I realized I am missing quite a bit more.

[opaque sun]

10b for a challenging long fight 50b for a reasonable fight, 200b for a drop farming runs

[fallen plume]

Thanks

[quartz pollen]

Where do you guys farm your wood circles, wood mush or sticks?

[gentle furnace]

WMush

[quartz pollen]

I see

[opaque sun]

has better base chance, and ES ignores bad map layout

[quartz pollen]

Those statues too

Gaming superbits

requires 300q white bits

[thin rose]

No more praying I believe it's called

[gentle furnace]

That thing is a trap never use it

[opaque sun]

advised not to use it tho

[thin rose]

Useless

[opaque sun]

no curse, yeah right it has a big curse of “makes everything 1/5” curse

like you should be using royal sampler to begin with

[thin rose]

It should be buffed to 40% for it to be usable

[opaque sun]

And if no prayers looks nice, it means you are not using royal sampler, which is a bad idea

[thin rose]

He might not have royal sampler

[fathom lagoon]

What’s the curse to royal sampler again?

Ah true, so it’s good to use while printing & farming

[noble mesa]

Its soooo small

[opaque sun]

70% additive xp penalty isnt much

[noble mesa]

Like if u have 5xp on u and the preyer is 60%
Then u have 4.4 xp

[fathom lagoon]

Ohhh

That’s pretty good

[gentle furnace]

-63% exp for mine

does this look like it hurts?

[noble mesa]

Big nono

Im on 7 xp and i run it on all charecters

[gentle furnace]

still, the exp deduct is small if you do active plays and kill crystals

[fathom lagoon]

You have to go to the statue to activate right? Can’t do it remotely

[gentle furnace]

as you level you GT you wont even feel the reduction

[fathom lagoon]

I always thought it was total % reduction. Gonna equip and resample everything

[gentle furnace]

everyone except vman should equip it

[fathom lagoon]

Grinding to vman rn. Got my chars getting death note to 1M for W2, w3 next

Haha barb is chowing w3 currently

So it’s helping along the way

Sorry zow-ing w3 actually

The dmg increase is insane w each additional zow

Yea long way from that brotha 😆

Small steps

I don’t think portal kills count towards death note

[gentle furnace]

It doesnt

[fathom lagoon]

For death note ES it’s best to afk

Sorry to deliver the bad news bro 😭

Prob just MK stacked up

No wait ES portal kills count towards portal count to unlock next map but not death note I believe

I can confirm it doesn’t work for death note, was testing it yest

[thin rose]

Skill issue

[gentle furnace]

The quest only counts base kill for the quest if you do it actively

[granite grove]

the quest counts kills after starting quest, also if active farming, it only counts base kills while AFK counts multikills

[gentle furnace]

So its best to afk for it

[fathom lagoon]

You can easily test by going to a map with a secluded platform, portal & manually kill just 1 enemy while you have the cards open to see if death note count goes up

[native onyx]

What's the best map to get Plunderous Kills for Siege Breaker?

[granite grove]

oj bay, iirc

[native onyx]

OJ, thank you

[fathom lagoon]

Oof tru lol

Yea try it out. Didn’t work for me yest

[thin rose]

Nope

No prayers?

[cosmic tendon]

Not sure what ur talking about exactly but there’s also kpk bubble and talent that don’t need mk

And the goldfish vial if ur comparing portal vs. Quest while active

[tacit tulip]

Oh, I can help: it doesn't

Portal mobs don't give death note progress at all

They do respawn normal mobs when they die tho, so tends to be a net gain

[elder osprey]

what class do you play ?

[tacit tulip]

lab and nobisect both double your death note kills too

but still only count one kill per kill for quests

[elder osprey]

BB have Monster Decimator and Charred Skulls

[fathom lagoon]

He’s talking ES

[tacit tulip]

multi, it's 4x with both

[elder osprey]

then maby Memorial Skulls

[fathom lagoon]

Do the kills in the afk info tab account for that?

Nice

Sakori goat

Are there any other must have prayers

I pretty much only equip the giant one lol

Gonna put Royal sampler on everyone tho

[tacit tulip]

Royal sampler should always be on all your characters

[fathom lagoon]

Anything else? Or everything else is situational

[tacit tulip]

Mutikill prayer is always on unless you're dying

[next wigeon]

Is it just me or is the game terrible at keeping track of afk time?

[fathom lagoon]

Kk I’ll check if I got that

Whatchu mean

[next wigeon]

I've lost so many hours because it randomly says i've been afk for 2 minutes when i was afk for 2h

[tacit tulip]

I think I know the answer but you gotta clarify there

[next wigeon]

Just happened to me in 3 chars

[fathom lagoon]

That never happens to me but I solely play on my iPad, not sure if you’re switch up devices

[tacit tulip]

ok that's the opposite of what I was expecting tbh 😄

[next wigeon]

I came back and on 2 chars it said afk for 2 min 32s on divinity, and one char was catching bugs, entered it and gained 0 bugs

And 0 xp

[tacit tulip]

Are you swapping devices often? Lag (primarily ES) can cause your game to fall behind.

If youy're switching to the other device without cloud saving first it's probably losing that time

[fathom lagoon]

Damn super weird

Yea all I can think of is switching devices which

If you’re doing that

[next wigeon]

I only use phone, i don't even have other devices

[fathom lagoon]

Damn sorry to hear that, probably sucks to experience

[next wigeon]

I always cloud save, then close game

[tacit tulip]

out of laziness I tend to always keep skilled dimwit on all characters, so whenever I go to sample I don't forget to put it back on 🥲

[next wigeon]

That worked ✅😁

It now says 2h afk

Even after i entered the char and played around on it

[tacit tulip]

ok yeah your games falling behind. When you close the game, are you fully shutting it down or is your is your phone suspending the game?

[next wigeon]

Shut down

[tacit tulip]

Cloudsaving re-syncs it to the clock

[next wigeon]

Thank you

[tacit tulip]

that's definitely weird though, with the game -off- it shouldn't be susceptible to that

[next wigeon]

I always make sure to close it because i've had it happen where i was hours away then i come back and the character starts killing stuff as if nothing happened and get 0 afk gains

[tacit tulip]

yeah when you said mobile that's what I was expecting you to say

as I've done it too 😄

[next wigeon]

As if i was standing on active with auto off then suddenly turned auto on

[thin rose]

Mobile users

[tacit tulip]

Just at KFC, I'll update my link when I'm.back 😄

[tender rampart]

What's the math for the big bubbles atoms prices?

[sick sentinel]

here's the max costs when bubbles hit 1B materials

[prisma drift]

Do I have to turn off my particle collider to get multiple stacks in storage to fill up?

[sick sentinel]

also that mining big bubble caps out at 300%

[tender rampart]

Thanks

[sick sentinel]

so you dont need to level it more

[prisma drift]

I’ve seen people use multiple stacks for hourly clicks

But I can’t get more than one stack to fill lol

[sick sentinel]

printer onnly fills the first stack in storage

[tender rampart]

Good to know that for sure, thanks again

[prisma drift]

So how do hourly clicks work? Just one per hour?

[hollow wasp]

if i want to farm DNA Splicer world2 recipe i farm it with ES at pincer, right

[zinc torrent]

Hey can someone give me a vague idea on how "the family guy" skill works?

[sick sentinel]

you only keep stuff like copper and oak logs in multiple stacks for the efficiency talent boosts

yep

just 1 click on each bubble you can print 1B on

[prisma drift]

I see that’s pretty lame

I can only hit 1b an hour on oak atm 😦

[sick sentinel]

thats a good start at least, start hittin that strength bubble

[prisma drift]

I mean I can only do it because doot but yeah

[hollow wasp]

is it worth farming the dna splicer for world2 recipe?

[sick sentinel]

it adds up, tho this isnt only from hourly clicks

[prisma drift]

Breeding without splicing is pain

[hollow wasp]

ye the chance is giga low

[prisma drift]

Mines at 250 :/

That’s why I wanted to start clicking

[hollow wasp]

1 in 333k doesnt seem to bad anyway

[prisma drift]

1/333k is quick

[sick sentinel]

i wish i could tell you exactly, but i dont really understand it too much myself. i think that its something like the family guy bonus only affects your own boosts for that character if active

[hollow wasp]

i try. i think is still 2 3 hours or so idk

[zinc torrent]

That's what I thought. So if it's 25%

that character gets 25% of each family bonus?

Not each family gets 25% more of the unique bonus he offers I think?

[sick sentinel]

it may be only the bonuses which that character provides

[prisma drift]

I think it’s the second one

[zinc torrent]

It's very confusingly worded

[sick sentinel]

it is

[prisma drift]

But it only works when your active on them. So for DK giving refinery speed

You have to play DK to get the speed

And upgrading it gives more refinery speed when playing DK

At least that’s what it seemed like

[zinc torrent]

Dang I am like 2 lvls from 200 skill points on my plague. Just trying to find out how to scam those last 2 talent points q.q

[echo crag]

so one of those that look great on paper but practically pointless in practice

[zinc torrent]

Love you pfp. Have you read the novel / manga?

There's a stamp that boosts talent levels? :0

Oh my bad. I need 2 more max lvls.

My tentacle eye is 198 i need 200 for the big buff

[prisma drift]

Prolly missing from salt lick if it’s 2

[zinc torrent]

Oh you right lemme check salt

[prisma drift]

I’m just here chasing eldritch fury

[echo crag]

no i did not

[pulsar cliff]

Just finished all of my monster drop vials.

Which is the least awful to start on: Souls, Forge, Trapping ?

[brave escarp]

Eldritch fury was my first red artifact. Felt kinda dirty.

[peak swallow]

I won a roll of 1 in 1.2m on one of my first eggs for the w4 purple mushroom. Crazy low chance

[zinc torrent]

The Manga version is pretty good with a lot of unique and interesting twists. I loved it personally.

[peak swallow]

Was a few months ago but I’ll prob never get that lucky again

[gray pagoda]

Mine's at 76 :/

[prisma drift]

Your first strength bubble???

Back to w1 with ya

[gray pagoda]

Yep. I neglected alchemy hard, trying to catch up now lol

Trying to focus on wisdom more too, since I moved from a BB main to an ES main. Not at the point where I don't have a main yet.

[cosmic tendon]

Did u have a salt upgrade left? If not, are u using bear

[prisma drift]

There’s no point where you don’t have a main I don’t think

Bubo main if not farming obols or plunderous

I hate archers

[gray pagoda]

There is apparently. Lots of endgamers have said it. You eventually come to a point where you just upgrade what you need to upgrade, and go on specific characters to get certain resources, but no "main" character you play on.

[gray pagoda]

Who doesn't lol

[prisma drift]

I mean most endgamers I talk to say they main bubo lol

Farming alchemy non stop

[gray pagoda]

Huh, weird. Maybe we just see different conversations lol 🤷

[prisma drift]

Well any endgamer with a 10k+ grind time mains bubo

Takes a lot of water to get 10k levels lol

[gray pagoda]

Is there anyone here who's fought Kruk with less than 10B damage? I just want some tips for the fight, as I'll be reaching Kruk in a few days.

[tacit tulip]

https://sakorii.idleonefficiency.com/

[prisma drift]

Nightmare yeah it’s not bad on 10b except on vman

[gray pagoda]

No, just normal

[pulsar cliff]

Or Bloodzerker, tbh.

Normal will be easy peasy.

[prisma drift]

Regular kruk 10b sheet or like you crit for 10b

[gray pagoda]

I don't have 100M, but I'll be reaching it soon enough

[prisma drift]

Ah crit dmg not sheet dmg

[gray pagoda]

80M ;-;

[pulsar cliff]

Oooooooh

[prisma drift]

Just use sheet dmg

[gray pagoda]

59.5% crit though

[pulsar cliff]

I mean. Probably still fine for normal lol

[prisma drift]

Max crit damage is too dependent on other stuff for people to gauge

[gray pagoda]

I figured I would be, especially with me using ES, since he has the lightning attack that does over 1000% damage lol

[cosmic tendon]

I can’t really think of many tips for es battle

Any

[pulsar cliff]

Divine Knight is like, go to brainless. ES and bubo are also top notch.

[cosmic tendon]

Just give it a go and see if u can

[prisma drift]

Best ES tip is walk next to him

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah you'll be fine.

[gray pagoda]

I'll also be getting a better weapon soon, so that should help

[prisma drift]

Or you’ll regular attack the moles

[pulsar cliff]

Nightmare is a totally different story lol

[gray pagoda]

Oh, that sucks

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t get how I’m supposed to get mega crit

[tacit tulip]

mega crit adds it's % to your crit damage

[cosmic tendon]

I’ve spent 10s of k

[tacit tulip]

so 400% = +4

[prisma drift]

Chainbolt and meteors can easily clear the healing moles

[gray pagoda]

How often do moles spawn on normal? I've seen nightmare, and it definitely looks like a nightmare.

[prisma drift]

You don’t need to attack them with normal attacks

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah it’s easy with es

Meteor and bolts and lightning

[gray pagoda]

With less than 100M damage and moles having 900M health, I don't think chainbolt will help lol. Meteors, yes, but chainbolt, no.

[cosmic tendon]

You can probably still auto normal with es

[gray pagoda]

I'm not worried about my other characters, I'm just going to kill Kruk once for the stone (or rather the IOU) and then focus on gear

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t understand how everyone has megacrit

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I have that

I thought ppl were talking megacrit from the dungeon

[tacit tulip]

ah right, actually getting the book

[ember spear]

hey all, I'm on a high-level vman, finally getting around to pushing up Crystal Countdown to big numbers. Struggle is that I'm stonewalled by fishing, getting only a little over 200k xp/hr with a Starfire Rod and all the bonuses I can think of applied. Is that just how fishing is, or is there something huge I'm overlooking?

[tacit tulip]

you just do weekly 20x (40x) runs and spam books

[pulsar cliff]

^

[cosmic tendon]

I’ve bought the book before probably 70 times

[pulsar cliff]

That be fishing, friend.

[tacit tulip]

fishing just sucks, you can optimise, but it'll always be your worst

[cosmic tendon]

And I feel like I’m hindering myself without opals and stats on every char

[pulsar cliff]

Fishing is where basically all my balloons go lol

[ember spear]

well that's equal parts disappointing and relieving tbh

wen larg feesh

[tacit tulip]

mine was about 400 books, it's a 1/100 chance to get it

[pulsar cliff]

Oh yeah it's awful. Everyime I want to go to up my VMan dmg that skill it's always like ' lol 5 levels of fishing '

[cosmic tendon]

Damn ya see that’s 8 rings or some major star boostage

[ember spear]

I'm really hoping the islands offer a better solution for leveling fishing

[cosmic tendon]

I think they will

The exp jump for last room was massive

[pulsar cliff]

yeah it's a trade off. Don't do it if you feel weird about not putting it into other places imo

[tacit tulip]

We should get something eventually. Krakens et all are listed as "medium" fish

[ember spear]

I would love to push up all skills to as high as 100 for my vman but fishing has me wanting to stop at 70

[cosmic tendon]

The road map said it’ll probably be one of the next few updates

[pulsar cliff]

I stopped around 75 with a bunch of audible cursing.

Especially after I forgot to be consistently checking my anvil and summoning

[ember spear]

yeahhhhh I am starting to understand what you mean. I afk for a few hours and level chopping twice. I active overnight and almost level fishing once

[tacit tulip]

anvil is at least trivial to get to 100

once you hit 71 anvil you can make these and you'll zoom up to 100very quickly

[fathom lagoon]

Is it possible to have plunderous flag skill go continuously or is it always gonna have ~40 sec cooldown

[tacit tulip]

with all CD buffs it'll still despawn but it's not gone for long

[fathom lagoon]

Ah yea I need to level up my cooldown skill

Thought that was BM that had it haha

[tacit tulip]

360 seconds with max skill and PO box

[fathom lagoon]

Kk yea still minor cooldown

Damn would be so OP if it was continuous and you don’t lose the coin count

F

[tacit tulip]

I don't actually know how long the skill lasts haha

[fathom lagoon]

Actually I think it lasts 360

[tacit tulip]

Ah nice

you still lose your coin collection when it despawns unfortunately 😄

[fathom lagoon]

Yea bummer

[tacit tulip]

but you'll have your coin buff active still so it picks back up immediately

[fathom lagoon]

Ah the coin buff can outlast the flag? If you kill a plunderous mob before the flag runs out

Then that’s pretty dope

[zinc bison]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[tacit tulip]

yeah, and with the vman buff to flag you get plenty of plunderous mobs, meaning you always have the buff up

[fathom lagoon]

Fire, that’s my biggest prob rn is plunderous mobs not spawning enough

Wow nice af

Should have vman by next Friday lol

[fathom lagoon]

Confirmed it lasts 360 secs

[tacit tulip]

another ~14 keys and I can finish the kattle tasks

[thin rose]

10 seconds, take it or leave it

360 seconds is long

World record even

[pulsar cliff]

I've gotten 3 capes and only one necklace so far. Drop rates be weird.

[tacit tulip]

Find anything useful?

[restive aspen]

Been unable to unlock the evergreens and chemical plants. Is there anything I'm missing or am I just having horrible rng?

[dapper prism]

rng, just be sure to have kitsune turned on and dont let your genes go too high

[tacit tulip]

The rates just suck. Diminishing returns on DNA. double genes is less than double chances. As such, you want to attempt upgrades frequently with low % chance

[restive aspen]

So I don't need the MSA evolution for 40b and then red bits?

[restive aspen]

Got it. Been trying every time it's 3% so I'll just keep rolling

[dapper prism]

Why would you need those to unlock a mutation?

[tacit tulip]

I did both evergreen and Chem at 0.1% rolls

[dapper prism]

Chem at like 43 genes or something is 0.3%,

[restive aspen]

Idk. I've just been struggling since w5 came out to get them so I wasn't sure

[dapper prism]

At how many genes do you click it?

[restive aspen]

Around 300-400 genes

[viscid sandal]

I thought Infinity Star Signs meant they were always active, and no negative bonuses?

But activating an infinity sign changes my afk rates.. anyone know why?

[dapper prism]

yeh that seems high, i'd personally barely ever go above 100

[restive aspen]

So the rate for evergreen attempt is normally at like 3%

[tacit tulip]

do you have a starsign doubler? It works with the equipped 3

[restive aspen]

Kk I'll gene spam instead. Thank you

[viscid sandal]

ahh star sign doubler only works for the equipped huh

mm ok thx. The different wording made me think otherwise

[urban gorge]

I feel like I'm locked by salts for smithing/progressing. What should I Do?

[tacit tulip]

Make more salts

[urban gorge]

that takes time

[earnest bolt]

salts are bottleneck for quite a while

[urban gorge]

in the mean time* what should I do?

[tacit tulip]

Alchemy normally

[urban gorge]

so just active bubo?

[tacit tulip]

and print materials to level bubbles

the idea is to level up the stuff you -can- print so the stuff you can't get picked up by NBLB

making all your bubbles high level

[ocean lily]

Probably been holding on too long just for the shits of it and i have to imagine I'm just holding myself back now. Is there any purpose/cheese/things-to-take-advantage-of for a permanent beginner? After losing the ability to use Star talent actives a bit ago, it's been a drag

https://fursto.idleonefficiency.com/players (Bingusse, 206 Beginner)

[tacit tulip]

I don't have good advice for you except you'll cry at NM kattle paha

[ocean lily]

lmao I've been known to cry over a lot less than that

[tacit tulip]

Alchemy is the cornerstone of everything in the account. For example, this bubble is probably the most important w4 bubble. Level it whenever you can, even using the 90% discount

(note ie reports the entire buff, not the individual per plate)

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I I bargain tag 90% it as soon as I can afford to

[cosmic tendon]

Dam yo

I’m actually surprised how fast that scaled to 1b cost

[dapper prism]

Just a few more NBLB hits for mine to atom it
https://i.imgur.com/HQpewkN.png

[tacit tulip]

at 100M cost

[cosmic tendon]

You only need 62 for next level

[dapper prism]

You can also manipulate some of the costs by removing the vial lab node

[cosmic tendon]

Chef is at atom (base cost) at lvl 70

[tacit tulip]

If you want an easy way to approach alchemy: Pick a skilling material, and print it. Level the bubble associated with it til cost 1M, then repeat for other materials

Once everything is 1M, do 10M, Once everything is 10M, do 100M

Your sample size will increase as you go

[vernal iris]

lol wtf first time doing pet battles after unlocking slot 5 and wtf the scaling is bonkers with these

[dapper prism]

Because of this vial: (and a lab node doubles vial effects)
https://i.imgur.com/PjQcYqs.png

[tacit tulip]

The build for 6 slot is basically guaranteed to get 200 🙂

You take the person out of lab, which halves that buff, and increases the cost

[cosmic tendon]

To increase the cost

[tacit tulip]

so you can spend atoms instead of materials

[pulsar cliff]

Atomizing is a lot easier to get than 100m of certain resources.

[tacit tulip]

100M moustache combs is expensive. 600 atoms isn't

[versed sapphire]

anyone have a screenshot of the frost souls worship map setup?

[dapper prism]

Why wait for NBLB to make the spice cost 100m when you can manipulate it, get it faster then atom it.

[tacit tulip]

!guide has TD map setups for multiple levels

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[dapper prism]

Also for orange/green/purple bubbles you can intentionally use the wrong class to level the bubble to have a higher cost to be able to atom it sooner.

[atomic nymph]

Man... why does Doot have to be so good... and why 200?! wtf

[tacit tulip]

Statistically likely to get it before then, but my wallet says no

[atomic nymph]

my wallet says -80

[dapper prism]

Main tip about TD, when doing goblin 120 dont use the 120 screenshot, use the 130 (its way easyer)

[tacit tulip]

a lot of them are like that, the 110 citringes is way better than the 100 one

[versed sapphire]

im just trying to get to the first benchmark for frosty flights because i need the souls to get anvil tab 4

[tacit tulip]

the 40 is your goal then. Can be done with lower tower levels - lava nerfed mob hp a while after the easy ones were made

[pulsar cliff]

nopw

[tacit tulip]

it's an atom collider unlock

oh, vials

[cosmic tendon]

Basically just need boulder at 22/23

[tacit tulip]

derp 😄

[hollow wasp]

got that dna splicer recipe from w2, took around 1hours

[tacit tulip]

you gotta do the vials the old way, sorry

[hollow wasp]

but i realized is anvil tab4 recipe. i dont have anviltab4 xd

[vital tusk]

that .8 talent point is dope

salts was a big mistake i made def keep up on them lol

[hollow wasp]

i dont have that souls yet for the anvil, gotta check where to get

[cosmic tendon]

Blue souls is on snowman

[dapper prism]

1h... lucky you 😮

[hollow wasp]

1:333k, not so much

[tacit tulip]

I had you beat last year: #achievement-pics message

[cosmic tendon]

Should be set to finish pet battles soon

If u do some splicing

[dapper prism]

Ah forgot w2 was so low, the next ones get way worse xD

[cosmic tendon]

They were all really quick for me

[bleak gazelle]

i somehow got w3 before w2

[cosmic tendon]

with less than 7 dr

[bleak gazelle]

of course couldn't use them forever because of blue souls

[hollow wasp]

Pog

[fathom lagoon]

From pincers right?

[placid mural]

(crossing fingers for update tonight)

[hollow wasp]

Yep

[fathom lagoon]

What makes you think there will be?

[placid mural]

hoping*

[tacit tulip]

thgey'reabout every 2 weeks

[placid mural]

and usually drop either friday evening or saturday morning

[twin aurora]

islands expeditions probably ?

[placid mural]

maybe, personally i am still holding out hope that the Kattle divinity bonus will be added soon

[twin aurora]

was thinking more when W6 is out

[placid mural]

i know some have said that kattle and badger will be for W6 most likely, but i feel like only having 2 bonus' for W6,7,8 seems like shortchanging the later worlds, so i am wondering if that is what the God ranks will be for instead.

[glossy rain]

any1 having a clue what these no picture ones are? and i have the eyes finished already but why is there a second one with 999?

[atomic kiln]

no update 😦

[hidden prism]

is there max lvl to this upgrades?

[hollow ledge]

ok i think im ready to resample again. someone hype me up so i can actually do it

[bleak gazelle]

beeg numbers

[sharp wind]

Someone has 200+ rate, so i think infinite

[sturdy rampart]

Guys, there is any kind of a guide with milestones or something?
I Fell Lost and I don't know what to Focus right now, my account looks like a duck, do a little of everything poorly..

[fading cape]

maybe rift. All monsters in rift count as a single record

[hidden prism]

do you have active bubo already?

[hollow ledge]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[edgy cypress]

just unlocked all gods, is it worth it to keep rolling to increase the divinity lvl? or can I unlink my characters from the goat god

[lunar reef]

🤨

It's a tiny difference but like, where's my 3%

[versed cypress]

refresh the map

[lunar reef]

I've been level 50 for weeks on this character

[versed cypress]

well then the talent refuses xDDD

that is weird

[sturdy rampart]

I do haver a Bubo, not active, what I should do with him?

[glossy rain]

that cant really be true no? that would be so much missable content on bb

[hidden prism]

short term goal is probably will be making bubo active cranuim cooking farmer to boost your alch, for this you need like two ~full PO boxes on him - alch box and mana box (can farm pens with DK), then you can pretty much leave him active afk and farm aclhemy liquid & cauldrons like crazy (there is cranium cooking bubble also and it should be used and maxed as much as possible)

just watch some of the guides on how to make it real if you don't see any clear path

[tacit tulip]

Right with the divine scarf unlocked I find myself suddenly in need of levelling to 425. Guess it's time I level up grindtime properly...

[acoustic marten]

yo guys, is there a place ingame or idleon where i can check my card drop rate?

[echo crag]

afk screen

[upbeat trout]

does this even work ? i seem to have multiple characters with mxed stack of anvil items

[hollow ledge]

it does it at a set time once a day i think

if your production is faster than the time line, youll still fill up

[acoustic marten]

is that multiplied by anything? cause it seems like im dropping Much more cards than 1 in 3 hours

[echo crag]

thats the only place showing card drop, not sure of what could cause to multiply that if theres anything doing it

[acoustic marten]

ok thanks

[fathom lagoon]

You’re cracked

[elder osprey]

do smeltin erryday skill from SB work on AFK kills to ?

ok nice time to give it a nook 😄

book*

[tacit tulip]

it proably doesn't need the book, you max out its effect very easily

[brisk bane]

qq does Doot give the minor link to all characters or only the main bonus?

[tacit tulip]

both

[lavish cloak]

how much does that maestro hand buffing worship efficiency help soul-gains?

i'm closing in on level 100 worship on all my peeps and getting sick of manually claiming them on each of them

[echo crag]

booking it give more second tho

[tacit tulip]

It's nice but it's not required, especially as it's now very hard to keep it ahead of ES now

[lavish cloak]

okay. i'll meet my soul goals then slack off.

[fringe kraken]

Hey guys. Trying to beat nightmare kruk on my vman for task. Is there like a minimum level of damage he should have? I'm a little over 100b and I can't out damage the heals from moles

[sick sentinel]

dont try to outdamage the healing

[fringe kraken]

Or is there a trick? I use my coins and focus down one side of moles

[sick sentinel]

focus only on the moles then when ur aoe goes off get some hits on the boss

go back on forth between both sides of moles, aoe goes off, hit boss

rinse and repeat

[fringe kraken]

Hmm ok ill keep trying that then. If only vman had 1 more attack ability lol

[sick sentinel]

ur using whip right

[fringe kraken]

Yea

Whip, coins, and the explosion

It just feels like there is too many moles to control lol

[sick sentinel]

use your whip and coins on mobs, make sure you are at least at 350% movespeed, and if you have the latest gloves it makes it easier

it'll still be a while to take the boss down

[fringe kraken]

I'm 1 merit point short of getting the gloves. I've gotta wait and pick 6k more plants or beat nightmare on all 10

[sick sentinel]

but slowly whittling away works

the other gloves should be fine

[fringe kraken]

Ok thanks a ton! I'll keep trying lol

[sick sentinel]

good luck!

[wispy sapphire]

is there anything glaring here that I am missing in terms of progressing? (working on alchemy)
Like any specifics to aim for in the near future?

https://yourpethyena.idleonefficiency.com

[sick sentinel]

first things first do your char key quests!

lots of missing stamps/low level

alchemy bubbles missing and low

3 chars not printing

[wispy sapphire]

ill focus on those thanks

[sick sentinel]

try to work towards getting everyone the highest trap and worship skull you can as well

take it one step at a time, u got this 💪

[wispy sapphire]

👍

[gray schooner]

also put some ores in the forge!

[wispy sapphire]

oh duh right

[vale lotus]

Any obvious green stacks I'm missing, besides the food/potions which are currently a WIP? Especially any more obscure ones from quests?

https://vivalablink.idleonefficiency.com/

[gray schooner]

probably wouldnt take you too long to green stack glass shards, no?

[vale lotus]

Good call, didn't even consider that rare mats might not be all that bad anymore. Will add it to my list!

[echo crag]

all i cna really see

[gray schooner]

small potions should be doable too

but you did mention besides potions

[vale lotus]

Yeah, forgot that they drop pretty regular in world 1 so my es has been living there for a while

[sick sentinel]

w1 leaves are pretty easy with crystal farming

i guess any of them just happen eventually tho

[orchid rapids]

could be a dumb question: is there a 'best' amount of afk time to wait before claiming when farming for a very rare drop? i remember reading something like 48 hours is best, cannot remember the reasoning

[gray schooner]

poop has corporatube sub, as well as small life and mana potion. so maybe start with that one

[orchid rapids]

losing my mind farming fist weapon recipe on suggmas and want to make sure im doing it the best i can

[vale lotus]

Now that's the info I wanted. Thanks man

[sick sentinel]

you cant guarentee suggma recipe wiht afk time unfortunately

unless you want to keep afking for months

best bet is to active ES if u can

otherwise just claim like normal

[orchid rapids]

is there like a good amount of time to afk before claiming, though? or does it not matter how long i wait at all

[sick sentinel]

not for that recipe

[orchid rapids]

okay thank you, makes me feel a lot better

[sick sentinel]

yeah that one is pretty illusive to most people

[vital tusk]

is that the maestro gloves?

[orchid rapids]

yes

[vital tusk]

ya my buddy had mad trouble with that one

[orchid rapids]

im getting close to a billion kills lol

[sick sentinel]

sakori who is here pretty often finished the suggmas vial and still hasnt gotten it lol

[orchid rapids]

thats brutal

[vital tusk]

oof i didnt have any issues with getting any of the patterns really just rng i guess

[sick sentinel]

yup, pretty sure guardevoir got it first day before opening the portal

[vital tusk]

anyone else hate we need troll gear o to make magma?

[vale lotus]

Mainly just the helmet is frustrating

[past hill]

Does anyone know for Vman, Enhanced Left and Right Hands, do they come online for the Vman if he's 1st in a skill?

[tacit tulip]

I recjkon it might be possible to get the afk time down to a month on Vman, currently levelling it up to 425 for the divine scarf to test 😄

[vital tusk]

i made the troll helm when it still cost 10 to make...regret that

[queen raft]

Whats really helped me is ES, got recipe in 1 day~ active farming

[orchid rapids]

okay, yeah i should probably give that a try
i'll report back if i get it any time soon with active farming 🫡

[twin token]

Can someone look at my ie and help me see what areas I can try progressing in? https://egmann.idleonefficiency.com

[tacit tulip]

people need to understand they got lucky haha

6 weeks ES farming suggmas with 14 drop rate and no recipe

[restive aspen]

They should and do if I recall correctly

[ancient vine]

Sadge

[restive aspen]

Assuming you have high enough eclipse talent

[queen raft]

Oof

[gray schooner]

there's quite a few recipes you can unlock in cooking

[tacit tulip]

it's why I'm maximising my vmans afk to try and force it

[twin token]

Which ones do you think I should go for?

[glad hamlet]

2 big things I saw at a quick glance is throw everyone in yellow cauldron and push for diamond chef bubble and your missing quite a few stamps

[twin token]

Would it be worth to buy the yellow bubble upgrade in gem shop?

[glad hamlet]

If you have the spare gems and dont have anything else you deem important to buy then go for it

[twin token]

I'm at like 20 gems rn and still have a lot of stuff that's good so I'll hold off for now

[gray schooner]

if they dont take too long, i'd unlock them all. and try to put some chars in alchemy on your yellow cauldron to unlock 3 more bubbles. thats gonna help a bunch with cooking

collin said that already

[atomic kiln]

thats a lot of gems man

[twin token]

Ik I like to whale out sometimes

[atomic kiln]

way above my paygrade sir

[midnight raptor]

Clearly you want it too bad, you'll get it last now

[twin token]

Oh I just unlocked the multikill bubbl3 so ig it's only 2 now

[glad hamlet]

Other than those two just keep doing the daily stuff like sailing/gaming/alch and gains will come in pretty quick

Oh actually another big thing if you have like 20-30m damage you can push for rift 16

[gray schooner]

also stop using the salts you need for yellow bubbles on your kitchens. way better spent on those alchemy upgrades

[glad hamlet]

skilling mastery is really nice to have

[midnight raptor]

Tried to farm a cosmetic item once in a game where it had 1 in 100 drop rates, boss only respawned every hour. Some nights I farmed for 8+ hours. Took me a year to get the cosmetic cause trash af luck lol

[twin token]

Are u talking abt the seasons u get from breeding?

[gray schooner]

yeah, my bad. not salts

[glad hamlet]

yea save the beach spice for diamond chef

[twin token]

Oh I didn't even know they were used for stuff other than diamon chef

[hallow charm]

what i have to focus on alchemy?

https://zelatos.idleonefficiency.com/world-2/alchemy

[twin token]

Thx a bunch guys

[glad hamlet]

np glhf

[atomic kiln]

i will never spend these

[echo crag]

maxed all already ?

[runic girder]

Thats a lot of tapping

[glad hamlet]

spare a few

[atomic kiln]

i would share if i could

its from my DK farming

[fading cape]

gotta get that greenstack

[runic token]

😱

Got this yesterday finally

[echo crag]

now watch lava patch in w5 pets

[versed cypress]

honestly i expected w5 pets to be released at the saem time w5 boss would come just like what happened with w4 pets but he didnt xD

[tacit tulip]

My money had been on kruk's unique craft being a w5 splicer

[versed cypress]

kinda same

[calm knoll]

We did get W5 pets they are called companions

[versed cypress]

as much as i find this amussing, nah xDD companions do something pets are basicaly useless outside of breeding except for shinies xDD

[calm knoll]

Welp they are here to complement cooking and cooking gives insane gains nowadays

[tall notch]

Just got 10% multikill keychain from party dungeon, is it worth keeping?

[sick sentinel]

nope, those are flat multikill

they wont do much for ya

[tall notch]

Ah fair, thought so. Thanks man

Pfff action frenzy max lvl 99. Why not 100 so i could get mega crits

Welp, maybe next week

[true obsidian]

42 run...

[versed cypress]

what dificulty??

[true obsidian]

nightmare

[versed cypress]

dman thats a lot of keys

2940 keys seems like the farming of everycharacter for a few days plus active farming

[versed cypress]

is your DK making its way to wurms??

[true obsidian]

yeah

[versed cypress]

nice nice

hope you are also doing the quests for the mole so you have a chance to get those trophies

[true obsidian]

but this is a pain..

i really don't want to start...

very low lv + bad equipment

[versed cypress]

my suggestion for bubo, park them on flombs actively for one or 2 days with an exp set up an dyou will see their level skyrocket to over 350,

then just slowly begin to work on their skills and push them into citrines for another leveling session

[silent wraith]

tremors is better than citringes if you can handle the crystals there, get as much c rystal spawn as you can possibly get

[true obsidian]

i can easily get to lv 400 but it took time, and it need equipment too, lv not the matter

[silent wraith]

getting a chocolate chip is ultimate priority

[versed cypress]

gear shouldnt be much issue at your point

tough dunno how your refinery is doing

so nullo might be an issue for troll and magma gear

[true obsidian]

not that good

LOL

Bubo really carry

[sacred verge]

any tips on how to survive tremor wurms?

[tacit tulip]

unequip multikill prayer if on

otherwise, health has better returns than def

[sacred verge]

ait tyty

probably can do that and boost health quite a bit with talents

[tacit tulip]

you basically wanna be surviving a hit from crystals so you can heal up between hits

[lavish quiver]

Just turning that prayer off will most likely do it, i always forget it on then go die and cant figure out why

[sacred verge]

yeah

i survived for a bit but then died

on bubo tho, so crystals be spawning alot

[sick sentinel]

do you have hemoglobin star talent on? food?

[lavish quiver]

Do you not 1-shot on bubo yet?

[sacred verge]

i do 1 shot yes, bubo is at almost 6 bill dmg

probably can make it more tho with out much problem

i do use hemo but not food

[sick sentinel]

may as well use food. whats ur health and defense?

[sacred verge]

gimme a min

not optimized atm

[sick sentinel]

what kind of gear is on? defense a tad low for wurms cyrstals

and health not makin up for it yet

[ancient vine]

I wish to have that amount of Orange salts

[sacred verge]

troll besides chiz helm

[ancient vine]

🥹

[sick sentinel]

any luck on the w5 recipes yet?

[sacred verge]

havent been active mostly since followers released so havent worked on stuff

[sick sentinel]

true

[sacred verge]

i can probably make magma in 1 week without problem if i active

[sick sentinel]

yeah probably better to do that rn

make the armor then try wurms

[sacred verge]

yeah alright tyty

[sick sentinel]

also could try gold meat pies for the extra bit of defense

defense cards

[sacred verge]

alright

also got low lvl fmj

[paper sail]

If you don't get 1shot, you can also level the Shaman talent for prolonged invulnn after getting hit. Those extra seconds might be all you need to heal off kills

[barren otter]

buckler and shield stamp? @sacred verge

[tough tusk]

wait doesnt 120% worse then 100%

[paper sail]

Apple meal too

HP stamps and the Cardio star talent might be quick wins too

[sweet mountain]

Man, my chances of eldritch artifacts are so freaking low. How can I increase the %, is there a way? It's not like my boats are low level, some of them are almost lvl 200.

[late geyser]

What is the dmg requirement for vman for chaotic kcruk?

[lavish quiver]

Captains with artifact Chance increase but even then the chances are still low

[sharp igloo]

Yeah my chances for eldritch fury are like 0.002% lol it sucks

[sweet mountain]

But according to the numbers I'm seeing, it will take 5K+ chests just to garantee a single eldritch treasure.

[lavish quiver]

The higher islands lowest chance i believe is .02% so yea gotta get lucky

[balmy cobalt]

is chaotic chizoar card not working for anyone else? equipping it and entering a new map doesnt seem to boost towers

[barren otter]

a captain with artifact find chance makes almost no diff for the later eldritch

my captain with 300% arti find chance is only marginally better

[lavish quiver]

Getting golden hampters on all your characters can proc a lot of time in sailing which will help give you the amount of chances

[sweet mountain]

I'm not even in the highest island. I think i'm at the third or fourth. Wanted to go for the one that affects NBLB first. And even here it's only 0.06 to 0.08 (I assume these are the ones that have a specialized captain).

[lavish quiver]

Yea eldrich are all low, just make sure you dont have that skill that upgrades chests and quantity>quality for these

[sweet mountain]

I only toggle that If I know I wuill be away for 10h+

[balmy cobalt]

I've been farming for ancient fury for 2 months straight with all boats and still nothing. think my game is broken

started purchasing the gem shop upgrades instead 🥲

as a f2p that hurts lol

[sweet mountain]

The island I went for first had 3 treasures, I just wanted 1. Got the other two and now I'm left hunting for the one I actually wanted.. ahahhaha

[lavish quiver]

Unlucky is all i can say, i got lucky with ancient fury and eldritch

[balmy cobalt]

sounds like we're in the same drum roll boat

[barren otter]

time to log in every 100 mins and check for sailing procs

[sharp igloo]

I just want that eldritch fury so I can finally start using the 20 checkout library books lol

[tough tusk]

dont you should toggle it only if you are 20+ hours away

[barren otter]

gotta crank out # of chests clicked

[silent wraith]

yo what i got 2 orb

[balmy cobalt]

I think i found a glitch on how to this might happen

[lavish quiver]

Yea the time can overlap 272 is a good skill level so they end and start about the same time for me

[balmy cobalt]

sameeee lol

[silent wraith]

it's when having auto on and it refreshes before the first orb runs out, i don't think anything changes mechanically

[dapper prism]

Think it's 282?

[balmy cobalt]

I think there's another glitched way to do it and even have infinite orbs but I havent tested anything in case it gets labelled abuse and i get banned lol

[lavish quiver]

im at 272 and it is ending about the same time i set it down so idk

[dapper prism]

Weird mine is 282 and has a perfect cycle or end to next start. I do have mana po maxed

[lavish quiver]

Same

[barren otter]

?

mine works perfectly at 267

which was the lvl passed around a week or so ago

[balmy cobalt]

does it count an aditional kill for having 2 orbs?

[dapper prism]

No it bugs out and will count ur lower orb afaik

[balmy cobalt]

oof

[lavish quiver]

mine is up for about 2 secs extra so i think 267 would be perfect

to lazy to adjust 5 skill points tho

[barren otter]

yea 267 should be the sweet spot so long as you have mana box

[sharp igloo]

Is there any way to speed up forging bars other than the archer talent that gives forge time per kill and maxing all the forge upgrades?

And using oil of course

Im trying to upgrade gear on all my guys and im getting bottlenecked by starfire bars

[lavish quiver]

I just archer and pop a candy

[barren otter]

kph on your SB

[sharp igloo]

Oh that works with candy?

[barren otter]

is the only other thing you can upgrade to speed up bars

and then yea go send 1hrs on gmush

[sharp igloo]

So I can just go to gmush on my SB and candy a bunch?

[lavish quiver]

yea

[sharp igloo]

Sweet thanks

[fallow aurora]

is there a highest base stat a captain can have?

[lavish quiver]

Yea wiki has a chart

[lavish cloak]

so ignoring the existance of w5 keys, if i'm trying to rack up orb kills and get more crystal mob drops, and i can one shot wurms, is ojs or wurms better for dk auto-farm?

[pale jay]

Anyone happen to know if it'll work even if it says 0/1 on 'equip the divine scarf'?
Heard of people doing the quest already.

[fallow aurora]

this one?

[lavish quiver]

Yea looks like it

[sick sentinel]

I havent done ojs in a while, but i get average 800 orb score on wurms

267 orb

I imagine thats better

[lavish cloak]

me too. i hit 888 as the biggest number, haven't tried citringes since i'm perpetually farming keys

[fallow aurora]

it shows 0-5 but theres only 4 tiers of captains...

[lavish quiver]

look above it shows another chart on which numbers go with each captain

[fallow aurora]

ty!

[lilac vapor]

Brrraaa i just got flutterbis from a 1 percent

[lavish quiver]

+65% is the highest it can go right? Cant remember