lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[bold quiver]

an artifact from w5 sailing

[hidden quail]

Oooooo i do havr that then

[bold quiver]

yeah steak + socrates statue are huge for dmg

[hidden quail]

I never really read the names of shit so half the time guys mention stuff in here im lost lmao

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[tacit tulip]

If you're not too slow it's worth unlocking the island and popping the bubble to 5 for nblb, it's essential for damage

[livid raft]

I do have steak ancient. But thats the last island I pushed so far.

[bold quiver]

gotta work on reaching socrates island then! 20M speed boat (for2h)

[livid raft]

2.5M is my highest speed rn 😒 so gotta be awhile lol

[bold quiver]

oh =[

[livid raft]

Granted with the way I have been playing for the last 30+ days.. I probably could have easily unlocked it lol

[bold quiver]

indeed, sailing is very time gated there isnt much to it. Also if u lose a good gold deal it slows u down even more

From my experience sailing is mostly: Checking every 4-6h and waiting for a good deal to swap your treasure from last island to boost 1st boat speed

[hidden quail]

Wait the deals arent a daily rotation?

[bold quiver]

everyone has a dif rotation based on last island unlocked

[hidden quail]

But the 4-6hrs it rotates

[bold quiver]

the rotations are the same, but if u have more islands u get dif loots

[hidden quail]

Or u mean u just pooting that often to trade

Holy typos

[bold quiver]

yeah the rotation has the same time frame just need to check on some doc

[honest timber]

Sailing is mainly just spam clicking 50 chests a few times a day in the hopes of getting eldritch fury, in my experience

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkk 100%

make sure u have at least 1 boat on some other islands that have good artifacts, its not worth going 100% crazy for eldrich fury if u dont have the other good ones

chances are so small that -1 boat there wont rly change much

[honest timber]

What map is best for stinger bubo farming? 😮

Gonna give it a spin, see how it works out

[bold quiver]

citrines

[signal osprey]

Wurms is better if you have the damage but OJ is still good

[honest timber]

Thanks. Wo'nt have damage for tremor wurms I think

[bold quiver]

its aura dmg so its easier, remember that

[honest timber]

Oneshot is the treshold yeah?

[bold quiver]

not rly, if your aura can 2 shot its probably better than citrines already
The crystals

[honest timber]

oh o.o

[signal osprey]

Yeah as long as you one shot the mobs its worth doing

One shotting crystals is ideal but not as important

[bold quiver]

oh rly? i thought it was. Good to know

[signal osprey]

I didnt when I first started

[bold quiver]

hmm i can imagine, aura is very fast to kill. I could 2 shot crystals when istarted at oj

[signal osprey]

Yeah if you can consistently one shot all mobs then crystals should die in 2 or 3 hits which is still fine

[steady token]

is it worth it to superchow this? i superchowed poop2, this is nutto2

[bold quiver]

i wouldnt supershow with that kph

[signal osprey]

Thats up to you. The kph will never get better than that

[steady token]

a bit too costy for me

[signal osprey]

Just gotta check your candy and ask if you want it

But getting the chow is really helpful

[bold quiver]

i didnt even know that superchowing that counted lol,. gotta do it now kkkkkkkkkk

[signal osprey]

Yeah the poops at dr def and the nutto at the TD are different than normal poops and nutto

[steady token]

poop2 is like 2.4m for me

[signal osprey]

And they count as an extra chow

[bold quiver]

ohhhhhhh, so i can get 2 more extra super chow cool

[signal osprey]

But the nutto one will be rough

His kph there is pretty normal

Its a big candy sink

[bold quiver]

hmm indeed. But worth it

the multiplier from super chow is insane

[steady token]

can I get 71 or 72?

[signal osprey]

The new fomo chains help a lot though as respawning that one nutto will be the best boost to kph you can get

71 is possible

[bold quiver]

damn

[steady token]

👀 how

[signal osprey]

I'm assuming you chowed boops?

[steady token]

yes

[signal osprey]

Then you need the invisible gmush in the king doot arena

It cant be afked though so you have to leave your BB active there to get it

A decent build can do it over night

[bold quiver]

wait, how the hell do i chow boop?

[signal osprey]

The chow that is. Not the super chow. That would take weeks and isnt worth it

You kill them every day

[steady token]

just kill boop with bb

[signal osprey]

And eventually get 1m

[serene forum]

How do you get so much damage? Main boosts?

[bold quiver]

hmm imma start doing, i already got to kill dr king poop for his talent book '.' mine aint 100 yet, it doesnt drop

[signal osprey]

Yeah just remember to swap some cards around for max damage and multikill as afk gains wont help in boops

[bold quiver]

gotcha

[steady token]

there are many ways to improve dmg. it's hard to say

[bold quiver]

i dont know if i wanna do it now that im thinking about it.......

[bold quiver]

The last alchemy bubbles + Steak + Socrates artifacts are huge for cmg

[signal osprey]

Might as well. It takes like 10 seconds to walk in and kill everything

[steady token]

if I can make my bb to 450, i can make it higher

[signal osprey]

End game your biggest damage is going to come from bubbles 1 and 6

Eclipse skulls are really big too

[steady token]

so I need to let my bb active at doot arena overnight to chow?👀

is there a way to see the progress?

[bold quiver]

check to see if your chow increased everyday lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah you just check the chow

When it says 71 you're done

At your damage it shouldnt be too bad. Leaving him over night should be enough

Especially if you have the new respawn chains as though will be a huge boost

[steady token]

how long does it usually take? over night is like 10 hours?

[bold quiver]

back to getting laddles

[signal osprey]

The exact time will really just depend on your multikill and respawn honestly

[steady token]

does w2 dn affect that gmush👀

[signal osprey]

I would assume its affected by death note

[sick sentinel]

only on eclipse skulls for the extra dmg

not mk boost tho

[signal osprey]

Everything out side of the mobs that spawn in dungeon lobbies is usually affected

[steady token]

ty, I'd try it tonight

[signal osprey]

In fact it has to be affected if you think about it

If it wasnt it wouldnt be possible

[bold quiver]

yep

[steady token]

wait, can i chow mobs in dungeon lobbies

[signal osprey]

Imagine getting 100m kills with no multikill

Yeah but you dont have multikill in the lobbies

So have fun

[steady token]

no way to kill even 100k without mk

[bold quiver]

lack of faith

[signal osprey]

71/69 is the current max on chows

As far as what is feasible

You can get a few more but its not worth the time it would take

[steady token]

69 means no superchow nutto2 and gmush, but including rift?

[bold quiver]

yeah chow is whatever after a point. Only for completion purposes

superchow hge

[signal osprey]

69 means no boops and doot mush

You can candy nutto 2

No reason not to

[bold quiver]

Can also candy póop 2 right?

[signal osprey]

Yeah and that one isnt even bad

[steady token]

poop2 is easy

[signal osprey]

Getting a few million kph is pretty easy

[honest timber]

Well thanks, good success. 130k seconds on octodars vs 208k on citringes.

[signal osprey]

Nutto will be a few hundred thousand even in a big end game setup

[inland gyro]

What about the Cho’s from vman buff

[bold quiver]

super chow is worth, chow no

[steady token]

at 354kph, it cost me 282hrs of candy💀

[bold quiver]

chow u can just stop after w5

[signal osprey]

Well no you cant ever stop chows

Because you have to chow a mob to super chow a mob

[bold quiver]

like there is no point going for the mobs u cant superchow, like boop and whateevr the other

[signal osprey]

The only ones you can consider not chowing are boops and doot mush

[bold quiver]

what i meant

[signal osprey]

But even then theres no reason to not do boops

As it only takes a few seconds

[golden atlas]

procing a 100% on rabbit, but having to wait 4 whole days on non-stop divinity feels like horrible gameplay

[signal osprey]

And as our mk gets higher the world where a super chow on it will become realistic

So getting a head start now is worth doing

[shrewd nexus]

if its horrible gameplay maybe dont do it?

[signal osprey]

The only one you can really argue skipping is the doot mush tbh

[golden atlas]

good feedback and insight buddy

[signal osprey]

And yeah I would agree its kinda whatever but its not bad if you're willing to do it

[shrewd nexus]

good talk

[hollow wasp]

Hello good ppl

[shrewd nexus]

sup ilog

[noble kestrel]

what is poop 2

[hollow wasp]

Chillin at work. Took my laptop with me so I can active idleon a bit

[sick sentinel]

the second coming of poop

[steady token]

this poop

[frail mauve]

What is your build to get that many seconds? I am only around 57k

[zinc torrent]

https://instinctx.idleonefficiency.com

Hi guys having trouble killing chaotic w5 boss in 30 secs. What's the fastest way to increase my damage.

[noble kestrel]

ahh i see im guessing nutto2 is the other nutto map with the TD then

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[honest timber]

Cooking roadkill bubble at 200, Cranium cooking at 247

[signal osprey]

They count as a different mob for the purpose of chows

[shrewd nexus]

probably alchemy, otherwise how many green stacks do you have? sometimes there are quik gains there

and if you havnt booked your talents to max, that can have a big diffrence to dmg

[sick sentinel]

stamps, alchemy, cooking, greenstacks, and more sailing will help you out

im proud of you for doing all your boss keys tho lol

[hollow wasp]

Yall pooping to much

[shrewd nexus]

sorry, its the curry

[hollow wasp]

Is it worth defeating big poop every day? Idk why I do this lol

[sick sentinel]

yes, at least for the card

[shrewd nexus]

if you enjoy it, then itw worth it

[hollow wasp]

There's nothing to enjoy. I go there put 1 auto attack and that's it

[honest timber]

If you want to 4-star the card, do it. Otherwise nah.

[cosmic tendon]

Worth doing dr def until u 4 star boop

[frail mauve]

Mine is at 205 and bubble at about 150. What skills do you have on your hotbar?

[frail mauve]

Thank you

[shrewd nexus]

yw

[hollow wasp]

collecting trps with the trapper drone only gives XP to the collector, right?

[thin rose]

Unless it's hunter then I think yeah

Pretty sure hunter has to place all the traps from drone

And collect em

[hollow wasp]

thats what i did

[thin rose]

Not sharing xp?

[hollow wasp]

beast master placed them all

sec, lemme check

but feltl ike no

[thin rose]

If it doesn't you can always just use eagle eye

If you want xp

[hollow wasp]

well is still 65mins before i can collect them

i gotta organize my sets now for my chars. i dont want to have more than 2x agi stoned and stuff

i know my ES has agi on the set

[narrow cloak]

no it gives to everyone

[hollow wasp]

i wanna give it to one of my hunters

[signal osprey]

Collecting from the drone just uses the eagle eye skill from your hunter. It makes no difference

[hollow wasp]

ok thanks, then i was just dumb

time to resample catching stuff, i think i made a big upgrade

[thin rose]

do I hit the 25%

[narrow cloak]

Statistically no

[hidden quail]

But for fun yes

[narrow cloak]

If you're feeling lucky

[thin rose]

Not a lucky day

time to save up another 100k for 50%

[hollow wasp]

not as big difference as i expected, but whatever

[lime kiln]

i thought the more expensive upgrade is always better? 🤔

[narrow cloak]

Nope left until you get 100% on the right is best

The average points spent is always the same but you have less variation with getting 100%

[lime kiln]

o i was going by the google doc

didnt know there was a 100% one

i just started a few days ago and only seen a 50%

[hollow wasp]

what should i use my 126 boxes on my SB?

[fathom lagoon]

Whew maxed out my p2w tab and got 4/10 chars into dementia gear #progress

[graceful rivet]

Is level 100 raise dead enough to fill screen

[fathom lagoon]

Got my DK at stiltmoles hitting 1b xp an hour wow, never would’ve thought I’d be here lmao

[narrow cloak]

I forgot the exact chances but 100% has the lowest chance of appearing

[fathom lagoon]

I think it’s like a 3% chance

[cosmic tendon]

But it’s equal chance to appear hitting left vs. Right

[thin kernel]

anyone have a setup for bubo for money farm?

[narrow cloak]

Yeah doesnt matter which you press, both sides reroll independently

[echo crag]

on smaller maps maybe

[cosmic tendon]

If ur aura only it’s probably fine

[hollow wasp]

where on IE do people find an overview of the geaar of all players? i can only see every single char, but i want a complete view without switching the chars

[signal osprey]

IT

[glass meadow]

you can't on IE but you can on idleon toolbox

[hollow wasp]

oh okay thanks

got it ty

time to upgrade my guys armor

[serene forum]

Is troll helmet supposed to have spikes at the top?

Also whats better fire helm or new w5 boss. W5 boss honestly looks pretty good

[timid briar]

Pretty sure the end boss helm is best in slot, you need magma to make them anyway

[strong pendant]

whats the best upgrade stone now? cattlekruk armor?

cos it has wep dmg on it?

[cosmic tendon]

If ur willing to redraft if u don’t hit the threshold for it to be better

Recraft

[strong pendant]

mmmm okay. yeah fuck that, getting magma armor is such a pain for me rn

ty!

[hollow wasp]

when i farm any mob drops with my ES. do i also want to max out crystal monster spawn chance?

[strong pendant]

I'm pretty sure it doesnt matter for ES, on DK tho its damn good

[cosmic tendon]

Still nice to get the crystals when ur doing it. Definitely if the drop is coming from crystals (even if mob also drops crystal probably has better odds)

I’ve replaced crystal cards with card drop cards for certain es farming

[hollow wasp]

i wanna farm a few fluffballs now for dementia leggings

its 8000 each

i need 5 sets

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t see why u wouldn’t have the crystal cards slotted in?

[hollow wasp]

i have it like this rn but i guess its useless, especially the money

[cosmic tendon]

If ur just farming main drop hit the max mk tier u can

Plus dr, then probably crystal next

But 40k on es will take no time

[hollow wasp]

to hit most mk its all about dmg, right

[cosmic tendon]

So don’t need to worry too much

Yes use the afk info to see the tier requirements

[strong pendant]

dmg and if u can slot it in afk%

[cosmic tendon]

If ur not hitting next tier the dmg isn’t doing anything

Afk% does nothing for active

And u definitely want to farm that active

[strong pendant]

oh yeah, active, wasnt reading properly

ignore me lmao

[hollow wasp]

ye i do that active because the ES POrtal

[signal osprey]

Unless your goal is to get exp and levels theres no benefit to crystal cards on ES really

[cosmic tendon]

That will take u less than an hour so don’t worry too much about perfect build

[signal osprey]

For mob mats and rare drops you just want DR and damage really

[cosmic tendon]

If ur farming anyways and don’t have a use for the slots might as well get some statues/obols/etc no?

[signal osprey]

How would you have no use for the slots though

[hollow wasp]

i have it like this now

[signal osprey]

Theres way more than 8 cards between DR and damage cards alone

[cosmic tendon]

If dmg cards aren’t putting you up a tier

[hollow wasp]

but i can replace the base wis with more card drop chance

[signal osprey]

ES doesnt need tiers though

[hollow wasp]

as i will still be on x7

[signal osprey]

More damage is higher portal counts

[fast imp]

Es or dk to farm world 5 blueprints?

[signal osprey]

Regardless of what your afk tier says

[cosmic tendon]

Ah right good point thanks

[signal osprey]

ES

[hollow wasp]

this is most efficent, right?

i've put all my dr and card drop chance in and still on 7x

[cosmic tendon]

Sorry I was mistaken

Replace crystal and card drop for more dmg

For more portal kills

[sour flare]

Does Vman give increased efficiency to the lower levelled players even in cooking?

[hollow wasp]

but i will still have 7x mk

[cosmic tendon]

For the portal kills

[hollow wasp]

ok

[signal osprey]

More damage means higher portal kills though

Also you can snap shot the card drop chance cards

[cosmic tendon]

And the later kills u can get to they drop more

[signal osprey]

Have them equipped before you enter the map

[cosmic tendon]

But dw too much of it’s just this farm

[signal osprey]

And then you can take them off after you enter

[cosmic tendon]

It’s going to be much faster than u think

[signal osprey]

And you still benefit from them

So you can use another card instead

[cosmic tendon]

So leave it as is and just switch out

As long as u entered map like that

[shrewd nexus]

is active cooking worth it?

[cosmic tendon]

Active cooking?

[signal osprey]

Active cooking doesnt even do anything

You only get ladles afk

[shrewd nexus]

i mean you get to watch the pots stir an stuff

[hollow wasp]

so i have it like this now?

[signal osprey]

Then just active on a lab slave

[cosmic tendon]

That sounds worth it to you lol

For enjoyment

[signal osprey]

So your cook still gets ladles at least

[shrewd nexus]

i prefer active sailing tbh

[glad lava]

I was fighting the new boss and he just healed half health. I was autoing and i pulled up the pin ball mini game thing from quick action. Is this a known bug?

[cosmic tendon]

Bro when there’s 30s left and u watch it roll in

[signal osprey]

Thats probably better yeah

[cosmic tendon]

That’s the best

[cosmic tendon]

New boss heals when moles reach it

[hollow wasp]

kk ima farm some floofballs then by now. i equipped the chocolatey cookie aswell. maybe it gets me something

what website shows crystal spawn chance again?

[cosmic tendon]

Ie under char

[pale slate]

do i have to log in daily for my cook to get laddles or if i afk on him 7 days i get laddles for 7 days ?

[hollow wasp]

without any crystal spawn cards in

[shrewd nexus]

no limit on cooking log in

[pale slate]

perfect thank you

[strong pendant]

i believe its only up to w3 skills

[hollow wasp]

my ES is hella weak, isnt he

[shrewd nexus]

a little, why he got skilling rings on presumably your attck build?

if this is your skill talents, then no not that weak

[cosmic tendon]

Now that ur w5 and work on ur account you’ll ramp up pretty quickly

[hollow wasp]

its not my skill talents, idk what else rings i should get

[cosmic tendon]

Account

[hollow wasp]

let me wiki them

[cosmic tendon]

Alch, stamps, cooking, sailing

[shrewd nexus]

opal ideally

[gentle furnace]

Can you get chiz scarf?

[cosmic tendon]

Card farming, obols, gear

[hollow wasp]

opal is dungeon isnt t?

[shrewd nexus]

yeah

[hollow wasp]

i still work on the stats

[shrewd nexus]

or the dmg rings

[hollow wasp]

i have all lvl 20-35

someone told me max stats first

i could grab a chaotic amarok necklace maybe if i manage to get enough water

[cosmic tendon]

Sheep’s will give u water

[shrewd nexus]

yeah main stat will help, once you get your atoms going, you can put a lot of levels into main stat. its worth knowning that base stat on gear does a lot more than you might think because of the talent that buffs it

[cosmic tendon]

20+ waters by the time u farm the 40k

[tacit tulip]

Ram rings would probably be your quickest upgrade until you get something better

[cosmic tendon]

Which again, won’t take long even at ur dmg

[green eagle]

welp my first kruk bow is a dud

[hollow wasp]

i am not at atoms yet

[green eagle]

used the kruk upgrade stones, failed 3 times

[hollow wasp]

ok so i should get the chaotic amarok necklace?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah might as well

[shrewd nexus]

thats fine, not worth setting up for atoms till you have maybe 10mill samples

[hollow wasp]

eh also whats with rings, i was dumb

amarok necklace isnt rings LOL

[cosmic tendon]

As someone else said the neuron ring from rams

Or the best one in dungeon

[hollow wasp]

let me wiki them

[cosmic tendon]

Which might be a bit harder farm

Emperor’s opal is the dungeon one

[hollow wasp]

ye i dont have the points for it

i still work on my stats

[cosmic tendon]

Frost neuron or something like that is rams

[hollow wasp]

i have all lvl 20-35

cant find the ring in wiki

Neutron Ice Ring

1 in 1 million, as its a base drop not a rare drop i farm them with ES, right?

[shrewd nexus]

all mats are mats you farm with ES (apart from w5 boss key due to extreme hp of monster)

[hollow wasp]

its not a rare

its a table1 drop

all this is faarmed with es, rares are with dk, right?

[shrewd nexus]

im not sure what destinction you are making for rare

use ES for all monster drops

[hollow wasp]

this is rare for me

[shrewd nexus]

if you want neutron ring es will get it fastest

[hollow wasp]

all monster drops? but someone told me like silver pens are farmed with DK

[shrewd nexus]

thats a cyrstal drop

[hollow wasp]

oh thts the reason

aight

[shrewd nexus]

dk for cystal farming, es for the rest

[hollow wasp]

so 1:1000000 i have to be active a few hours to get atleast one huh

[shrewd nexus]

tbh thats probably not going to pay off, you can likley do other things to make gains

best rings are from dungeon so get those eventually

[glossy rain]

guys whats wrong with the mob respawn keychains? my kills/hour didnt change like at all after equipping 40%

[sick sentinel]

refresh map

[glossy rain]

did multiple times

[sick sentinel]

🤷‍♂️

[serene forum]

Dk better than es for farming w5 rares and mats?

[glossy rain]

even restarted game

nothing changed

[signal osprey]

What are you farming?

[glossy rain]

maccies w5

[shrewd nexus]

dk best for the final map keys due to how high dmg is needed. maybe debatable for other maps if your damage is low. in general es is better

[serene forum]

Hampters, recipies, gold twine

[glossy rain]

ah you didnt mean me

[sick sentinel]

ES then

[serene forum]

I tested it im rarely getting like 1k a portal for w5

Dmg about 1b but with over 200 crit

[hollow wasp]

problems is i always dont know what i should do the best xd rn i try to get all my chars dementia armor

[serene forum]

Hitting around 100b probably

[signal osprey]

What does your afk screen look like?

[signal osprey]

Alchemy is always the answer.

[shrewd nexus]

armours kinda a low prioerity imo, but it cant hurt

[gentle furnace]

You're doing something wrong then, with 100b dmg you should get around 50k mats per portal atleast

[plucky sphinx]

Does everyone still keep their shrines in w4?

[serene forum]

How though? Im reachinf about level 95 in portal

[sick sentinel]

i think they meant they have 1B sheet dmg but hit mobs for 100B

[serene forum]

Only get like 500 matts

[gentle furnace]

Send updated ie

[hidden quail]

Just something to consider with ur ring situation. If u dont wanna farm the ring from rams u could do the quest for death wish rings. If u have enough multikill u can get the mats for the quest in 1 day (only spawns 30mobs a day)

[shrewd nexus]

i dont see how thats possible unelss your base dr is like 0.5

[signal osprey]

I think you might not be at kill cap with the Keychain and thats the problem.

Every map has a max kph based on the number of mobs. Damage, attack speed, move speed, and attack talents help you reach that cap. After you're at cap then you need respawn to raise the cap further

[brittle dagger]

I need some help with gaming upgrade priority. I've got up to seashell unlocked, can't upgrade my sprout capacity any further without serious progress.

Sprout base value lvl 153, sprout time lvl 138. I have been prioritizing leveling my seashell, squirrel, and shovel. Is there something I can be doing better? I can't seem to make the push to getting green bits easily. I get like 50Q per harvest and my nugget is 1,968

Do I just keep doing what I'm doing and hope for a bigger nugget multiplier?

[signal osprey]

In the short term your best bet is probably to throw on some move speed pots if you aren't already at 300% movespeed

Long term you just gotta keep pushing damage

[gentle furnace]

Nugget size, artifacts and bubble level

[shrewd nexus]

you are basically progress locked on nuggets and the snail, dont worry about it

[hollow wasp]

let me google it but im sure my MK isnt so hiugh

[brittle dagger]

Yeah I don't have the big artifacts just yet, they're in the next couple islands. I do have some stamp and alchemy progress though

[brittle dagger]

Gotcha, thank you

[serene forum]

Https://slarror.idleonefficency.com

[hollow wasp]

need 777 bonemeal and you can get 30 kills max? thats a 26x multikill, i only have 18x on gmush i think and they pretty sure stronger?

[gentle furnace]

error

copy from the website and paste the hyperlink

[signal osprey]

Its 30 kills max per day

Farm it again tomorrow

[hollow wasp]

k ill tryy to go there now.

[echo crag]

anyway by the time you plat the boop card you'll have more than you need

[serene forum]

slarror.idleonefficiency.com

[hollow wasp]

got 120 bonemeal

[serene forum]

https://slarror.idleonefficiency.com/

[gentle furnace]

fix your talents

axe and sword should be maxed

[serene forum]

Just did tbh

[gentle furnace]

max mage tab second row first 3

[hollow wasp]

book it up

[brittle dagger]

for sure should library these lol

if nothing else, guilded sword lol

[serene forum]

Just maxed them to 200

[brittle dagger]

good lol

[serene forum]

Still though im not seeinf how that can make such a drastic didference. Feel like 500 drops from w5 is too low

Especially when im almost hitting multikill on the mobs

[signal osprey]

Theres a massive difference between almost hitting multikill and hitting multikill

If you're not at multikill then yeah you just don't get anything

Thats normal

[serene forum]

Active though? Dk is way better then

[signal osprey]

Yes active

By default mobs drop 1 single mob drop per kill

Multikill is what increases that

So without it you're massacreing a portal full of mobs giving 1 drop each

Es simply doesn't function if you don't have multikill

[tacit tulip]

Drop rate does impact mobs drops too (though not for printing )

[serene forum]

Ooh i see

Guess i might as well dk it as i have it optimized

Only 8 dr though. Not sure how people are getting 15 plus unless its because w5 armor

[tacit tulip]

there's a lot of very strong sources of drop rate you won't necessarily have access to yet

[teal swift]

anyone able to give me some pointers for working towards voidwalker? ive been in w5 for about 2 weeks now and im working on getting goat god. I figured id pull my 2 blood berserkers (yes I know, not meta) and start having them work towards the 1mil kills each. is there a "best bang for your buck" for trying to get the multikill up to accelerate this? 1mil per mob in w1-w3 is daunting.

[serene forum]

Man this bonus is crazy

Sigils are hard as heck to level though. Unless i can cranium cook it?

[tacit tulip]

Youi could cranium cook it the day it came out, but that got shut down very quickly 😄

[grave lintel]

Do you mean unlocking vman ?

[teal swift]

yes @grave lintel

[orchid epoch]

can please someone help me with the player rating quest?

[grave lintel]

Go w4 town with your maestro

[tacit tulip]

I think he's talking about getting the 1 mil DN kills

not getting the quest

[teal swift]

yeah not the quest specifically, but to unlock the quest.

or rather prepare for the quest.

[dense crater]

How much damage do I need on my vman to outdamage the healing for nightmare cattle?

[green eagle]

just <2 months and i'll have another thing maxed, and the last sigil unlocked. then it's on to full steam maxing some of the last worthless sigils

[tacit tulip]

about 200b sheet damage

[dense crater]

welp 1/100 there

[tacit tulip]

around 40b you can beat it, punch moles until aoe is up, punch kattle, aoe the moles when they get close, repeat

[dense crater]

Im too lazy for that

[grave lintel]

Can't say much, the npc was there when the update was launched so idk :/ maybe try to lvlup moar, what's your maestro lvl right now ?

[tacit tulip]

So to answer this properly, you don't wanna be doing active BB for these cause BB is terrible. Which means your multikill is mostly a factor of the following:

Damage
Base multikill (low prio)
Multikill per tier (high prio)
AFK%
Respawn speed

You'll need at least 20M damage on your BB before considering doing this, to MK the bloodbones

[teal swift]

no, like i said, i know how to get the quest. I just need to know how to best improve multikill so i can get those 1mil stacks

thanks @grave lintel @tacit tulip

[grave lintel]

Does anyone have a tip for divinity farm ? A way to speed up xp at least so i can leave faster

[teal swift]

oooh hadnt considered the bloodbones situation.... ok. will have to work on that i think im around 3mil dmg for my BB. sounds lke i should put off voidwalker for a bit then. thanks!

[grave lintel]

Oh yeah i really not understood what you said

[teal swift]

no worries lol

[tacit tulip]

A large portion of the gains are locked behind sailing, so you're a bit stuck anyway

After unlocking the first 6 gods I left divinity until I had more unlocks, at which point the last 4 weren't so bad

[teal swift]

i do have one DK so perhaps i could do active on DK while I afk my 2 BBs

just figured id be activing my maestro all the time to continue to grind skilling

[tacit tulip]

when you come to actually do this, put your BB's on nobisect. It doubles your deathnote kills

[teal swift]

yes for sure will use nobisect.

[grave lintel]

I'm farming for the bird, should i keep going ? My sailors are all xping on first island until lvl 5-6 and then i send them where i haven't gotten ancient treasure

[tacit tulip]

The bird is very niche use outside of having doot (in which case you don't need it). Last 2 gods aren't implemented yet, you could safely take a break tbh

[grave lintel]

I do have doot

So i guess it's over now and go again later ?

[tacit tulip]

yeah with doot I wouldn't bother right this second, go do other stuff until you get some divinity artifacts then come back

the divinity level helps level minor skills but if you're hitting a slow wall, might as well improve your account elsewhere

[grave lintel]

K, on my way to grind some more lvls on some skills for the rift thing then

Thanks for the tips ^^

[royal girder]

wy i cant hit him ??

[tacit tulip]

because he (and lava) is a giant troll

and' he's trolling you.

[royal girder]

ummmmmmmmmmmmm

[tacit tulip]

You have to try and hit him a few times and he'll talk to you

you can figure it out from there

(his hitbox is closer to the centre of him too)

[royal girder]

i hate farm troll

[tacit tulip]

Once you've cleared some of the task board quests you can hit him right at the start

[royal girder]

omg nice

[grave lintel]

I didn't asked cause i was almost sure, but if i leave divinity i should put the 1xp/hour meditation before, right ?

Unless i lab i guess

[tacit tulip]

The one that gives passive gains

[grand karma]

you should put tranqi, the one that gives 3xp/hour passively think

[vital tusk]

do the infinite starsigns work on ones you have not bought yet?

[sick sentinel]

yep

if you want to double the starsigns with the chip you can only do so with the selected ones tho

[grave lintel]

Yeah thats the one i was thinking, i don't have it on all toons though so i'll leave them there for now and put it on for the rest of them

About the garden shovel, is it full RNG ?
It's lvl 80 right now and i got a 1188 nugget really early but i haven't been able to get anything close to that since (i think i had a 700 ish at some point but before the 1188 i had like 200)

[drifting swan]

Yea full RNG. I was 1kish for like 2 months and then 1 day got a 12k

Levelling it up obviously helps

[tacit tulip]

It's weighted RNG. There's a range of numbers you roll, which gets multiplied by your shovel level, but it's heavily skewed to rolling low numbers

IE has the range you -can- roll but you'll find 99% of what you roll is close to the min

[grave lintel]

Damn so big luck is needed :(

[thin kernel]

that sad moment when you come home after 7 hours and you has you game on a old smartfon.. and when you leave.. all was fin.. when you come back.. you are in a dungeon and have lost like 5 hours of "aktiv afking" as you now in a dungoen O-o

[pulsar heart]

kinda surprised i didnt have enough citringes or tremor worm cards to 5* after unlocking 5* cards

[thin kernel]

how much damge is need it for getting the last one ? ( for getting all to 5 star insted of 4)

[tacit tulip]

it's an extra level, so a 1.2x increase

[proven roost]

why does it feel like kattlecruck was a pure shit rush job

and the health scaling is just fucking horrible

[sick sentinel]

feels like all the other bosses tbf

only efaunt is an interesting fight at first

[proven roost]

the other bosses actually have something though, amrock heals and has defense, effaunt with multiple arms, chizor with the ball thingys, troll with the annoying challenge, kattle you just go right up to him, hit auto and thats it.

he has no animations, just summons moles to heal and thats it

the only part of kattle thats a boss is the health pool

[sick sentinel]

🤷‍♂️

[vapid wraith]

Anyone have the chip/jewel predicter for lab?

[sick sentinel]

in w3 pins

[ebon dome]

Is it normal to put all chars on divinity when reaching w5 ?

[sick sentinel]

yep

if you play active its fine to keep a char off doing something

[ebon dome]

Yeah was gonna say that - but kind of worried my salts are gonna fall behind now I dont have 2x prints on most of my chars now :v

[sick sentinel]

the play is to go for bear, second god, which lets you do remote lab

might take a day or 2 to get there but worth doing div now

[verbal bear]

yeah and with the changes to 2x unlink each week + free unlink on god unlock you just link to bear asap

[fading dust]

After you unlock the “chemical” evolution, does the evolution button matter anymore?

[ebon dome]

that's nice - I linked all my chars to the first god* but not sure that it affects div gains, so glad I can swap :D

[verbal bear]

afk% doesn't do anything for div, only divinity % and divinity exp% does

[ebon dome]

Yeah i saw it didn't change in the afk gains info - but thats nice to know :)

[uneven oxide]

no, its the last plant atm

[sick sentinel]

big number funny to look at

[fading dust]

Gawddamn, how much chance you got for the next plant? Getting this one was a nightmare…

[verbal bear]

0.3%

[sick sentinel]

[fading dust]

Jesus

[sick sentinel]

its prob hardcapped

[brisk breach]

i have been trying since day 1 and still no chem

[sweet mountain]

Yeah, it get stuck at 0.3% really early. I assume that's the caps for this stage.

[undone steeple]

does anybody know how the new pet breeding calculation odds work

i wanna know what the odds will be if I get a new pet in W2

meaning the pastpres multi increasing

meh fuck math
this is the result for anyone curious

[undone pollen]

50m

i struggle at coconut forager

...

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/21de371a54b9bb5c66a248196ef31ae6.png

[radiant orbit]

Aight i've been trying to get eldritch fury since the rollback and i've given up cos its a joke at thhis stage, so i needa farm speed for the later islands is there a proper/correct method to farm sailing speed? as in like a certain amount of boats to each island bla bla bla? can someone explain it to me pls

my progress with relics atm, i've got all islands unlocked by the furthest i can go is Piano island with 3 ships at 7hours min

tips/help please 😄

[untold saffron]

easiest speed is from divinity gods, bubbles and such

[brave sequoia]

The irony....... Doot is actually really good for farming Sailing.. no joke

[oblique compass]

is it just me or is gaming the least idle of all skills? been doing it for last hour and rng wont let me stop

[untold saffron]

250 base efficiency chip or 8% afk gain for sampling?

[graceful rivet]

is death note multiplier, additive or muiltiplicative

the prayer that reduces damage in exchange for it

[radiant orbit]

right i figured as much, but when it comes to exploring islands do i just send them all to one island and hope for the best? thats my main concern/question

[earnest bolt]

if you leveled a beginner up to 270 and equipped the krukk fists could you then unlock bubo and still use them as bubo? 🤔

[granite grove]

yes, changing class doesnt force-remove invalid class equips

just be very careful with accidentally removing the fist tho

[fallen torrent]

+100 talent max level library.... that doesnt work? max is still 220

[sharp wind]

Thats for your library

Not the book

[fallen torrent]

oh

nvm xD

[stiff prairie]

Is it worth turning on kitsune roxie for a short while to get the max plant levels/"power level" seashell?

Assuming i don't check it for a few hours because everybody is afk in skills to reach a combined lvl of 300 for card passives

[plucky lintel]

do any of you have issues with Poing? It will slide to the left or right automatically sometimes

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/59e3633c234fa2602a5271a9e0c09d3f.png

a month and a half between samples, gains

[next wigeon]

What am i supposed to do here?

[heavy moth]

nice gainz

[heavy moth]

can you link IE

[untold saffron]

https://felixjg.idleonefficiency.com

[loud flower]

I have huge lag spikes and sometimes it wont respond to movement. Gave up poing a long time ago

Tried steam, mobile, browser

[heavy moth]

nice account

[untold saffron]

appreciate it :]

[heavy moth]

do you have a doot ?

[untold saffron]

I don't sadly

[heavy moth]

wow gainz are even more impressive 😛

[fallen torrent]

@next wigeon you go in style get the best style, get those divinity point and try to use the left % til you find the 100% to get the next god, you'll probably sit your char for a good week or two there ^^'

[next wigeon]

All chars?

I have all on divinity right now

All lvl 2

[astral vapor]

woooooo

[gray thicket]

I would not be able to even dream about sampling 300M

[cosmic tendon]

Try to learn lucid dreaming and it might be possible to learn to control your dreams

[graceful rivet]

how hard is getting a super chow on rift if at max?
im wondering if should progress rift or not
to chow or if its better to just progress and leave bb there for ages instead

[untold saffron]

if you can make use of ruby cards and construction mastery i'd get them asap

[north juniper]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[untold saffron]

yes to the captain

[graceful rivet]

whats a good way to do the skulls inrift

the lava skull thing

[untold saffron]

the lava skulls? ES and bubo and active afk

go outside or play something else for a while

[dreamy spruce]

alright, thanks

[rustic garnet]

any of these slabs realistic to do?

[fervent brook]

what cards do you double for monster samples

[rustic garnet]

afk time

[zenith nova]

Bit confused, trying to build up divinity

Got 8 chars on divinity, all on mantra which I thought gave 1exp per hour to all chars. So 8 per hour?

If I afk for 20hrs I get like 40exp, so not sure what's up

[rustic garnet]

you don't see it

it's not listed on the readout

note your div before and after, you can see it better

[zenith nova]

Ahh so I get the exp but it just doesn't get shown in the summary

Yeah fair, thanks

[spring osprey]

Any tips for poing achievement? Im failing miserably.

[rustic garnet]

git gude

good angles

honestly, that's all

use arrow keys on steam

[wanton gazelle]

Poing on mobile is aids lol

[rustic garnet]

it's a bad pong implementation

not sure what anyone expected

the game 'slides' as is

[untold saffron]

!fishchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by TrazCS#7476

[tiny drift]

!catchingchart

!catchchart

[green eagle]

lava went dark again

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-six-going-dark-cod-sergeant-mw-modern-warfare-gif-14985183

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/f5ab05104c1ed8ce1c7fd15ad828d6e2.png

[teal lynx]

Not even 2 Weeks are over. He will be back in no time (hopefully, i lost all faith)

[versed cypress]

its been a week since last update and considering what the road map he posted entails its probably we wont see much updates for a little while

the lack of info and preview communication is quite annoying tough

[teal lynx]

Well yeah. But before "the accident" he atleast teased some things or asked stuff. Which was really nice

Oh did not see the second message

[versed cypress]

heheh yeah xDD

i wish he would go back to posting the future content blogs regularly

[teal lynx]

Yeah those were nice. Coming home from work and looking at a preview of the next patch was always nice ^^

[echo crag]

hopefully him going dark this time means he's working in w6

[versed cypress]

based on what he shown, he has a few more things to push before w6

including more npcs for w4/5 and the completion trophies for those worlds

and knowing lava, whatever else that catches his attention in the in between

[sterile sundial]

Not included on the timeline, but I would assume finishing W5 skills

[echo crag]

you means the last 2 gods ?

[sterile sundial]

And Gaming

[versed cypress]

last 2 gods are going to be w6 skills so not comming in soon

gaming will continue to develop trough w6 so probably not

[sterile sundial]

Wheres the confirmation on that?

[versed cypress]

he always leaves placeholders saying X is not avilable when its pertaining to skills comming in future worlds

[sterile sundial]

Superbits and Snail* was a placeholder, I'll wait till we get real confirmation then

[echo crag]

sigils where like that, shiny pets, construction for atom and voidinator

[edgy osprey]

I miss the times when I had any faith in this game. Was fun when Lava posted stuff to future content blog and I could get exited and stuff.... In the words of my prof: sigh

[versed cypress]

i still have faith in the game, one bad update doesnt kill an entire game (as proof we are all still here xD) but im cautious and all

as for the companions i will not invest any money on that particular feature of the game ever

[mild bison]

it all depends if future grinds are scaled off having the guy or not

[versed cypress]

nothing will be balanced from having or not the companions

[edgy osprey]

One bad update and a lotta.... Not so good ones imo

Like rng padding... Mostly that tbh. The continuous adding of certain things in the gem shop....

[versed cypress]

i dont think lava has the codding ability to do such a thing

i mean gem shop stuff is just bonuses you can farm once your account is in the right place

the gems can be gotten in game for free rather easily after all

[versed sapphire]

i hate divinity xD i fail a 50% and then hit the 1% right after

[edgy osprey]

The special shop section that sells the most powerful equipment in some cases? For certain time periods only?

[pale slate]

paiiiin, salt lick maxed, too far away from library achievement and even further from max lvl artifact island

[versed cypress]

rotation stuff that come back everyonce in a while, tough having the 5* cardifiers there is a bad move in my opinion

[edgy osprey]

And the drop rate keychain, I remember that in particular

[versed cypress]

keep it up you will get it in time dont get discouraged

[sick sentinel]

at least that stuff is all blue gem things so we can farm them

[versed cypress]

i would say the IS special keychains that could give you up to 7% twice efk gains were stronger

[edgy osprey]

Oh, and that, yeaf

[versed cypress]

but again its all blue gems, can be farmed and gotten when the rotation comes

[edgy osprey]

Dunno, something feels off with the game lately

[versed cypress]

the gameis still the same,

[edgy osprey]

Like chewing on a brick

[pale slate]

can get 1 more lvl from books if i get lucky and wonder if i can get 3 lvls by leveling my es, anyone have es at like 300lvl what is the family bonus ?

[versed cypress]

ppl made so much noise about the companions that it got stuck in ppl minds

[edgy osprey]

Nah something is different. I just can't put my finger on it

[versed sapphire]

do i put everyone on arctis after i unlock it?

[gusty glade]

how are y’all getting so many ancient artifacts? Solely relying on speed + artifact chance captains?

[sick sentinel]

as many people as you need to get your lab setup

[edgy osprey]

Luck! Sheer blind stupid luck

[untold saffron]

most people ue loot captains

[gusty glade]

double loot caps? or loot + speed caps?

[versed cypress]

arctis bonus is also good if you can and big P bubble to get more out of it

artifacts are speed and constant claims, like 2 or 4h claims with unending loot deactivated

[untold saffron]

i don't think you get enough worthwhile captains to be that picky, but loot is king

[versed cypress]

so you get as many chests as possible constantly

loot and speed are kings

[pale slate]

not even able to reach island it's 3 day trip for me on my fastest boat, i have unlocked arctis but my bubo is divinity lvl 9

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/001bcbc9f9262d46c74210006dceaa72.png

this is what I'm currently running

still a lot that need replacing

[versed cypress]

sounds like youa re just starting so it will take time you will eventualy get there

[pale slate]

well ye and no, i was just refusing to leave my character at divnity, eventually will get there just wanted to complain a bit

[gusty glade]

Ok, I haven’t been relying on loot so much. I think that’s my problem.

[pale slate]

what does it do when i lvl up god at divinity? does it increase the minor link bonus or it's gain for account e.g divinity gain ?

[haughty root]

90% is the size max o printing?

[edgy osprey]

It levels up that bonus at the bottom

[versed cypress]

leveling a particular god means the blessing, the 3rd bonus, god level is a much latter thing after you unlock all the gods and gives a small ammount of div exp

[jolly quest]

yayy

w5 helped a lot

[pale slate]

ahhh okay i thought divnity gain like i am leveling that god or something, thank you

[fading cape]

feelsgood.png

[runic girder]

Getting the music note has proven more difficult then i tought

[dense nexus]

Does anyone know what is the recipe other than the grapes I can unlock here?

[runic girder]

Lookz like a tomato

[runic girder]

How do you even??

[dense nexus]

Ah, would that be the giant tomato then? The picture on the wiki looks a bit funky

[vital tusk]

tomato and grapes

[fading cape]

shinies

[runic girder]

Well yeh thats a lot of infite signs

[timid panther]

Only takes a few days to get them

[dense nexus]

Ah. The picture on the wiki has the head chef bread behind it for some reason, so I just thought it wasn't round like the silhouette. Thanks!

[runic girder]

Does anyone have the image of what shiny gives what or just what shinies give infinite star signs?

[dense nexus]

Does this work?

[echo crag]

#1099088196027027606 message

[hidden sphinx]

Just hit fury eldritch relic

[runic girder]

Ty

[hidden sphinx]

It’s annoying that the orb doesn’t wait to be placed when the times up on cool-down but rather is placed, resets the counter and then gets reset when the previous fades away

[tame walrus]

Just got Arctis in divinity should i stop?

[runic girder]

I ive only done squirrel from this so far but that takes ages to upgrade now

[vital tusk]

multiple version of them lvl it faster

[fading dust]

Should I have boats do their best 2 hr islands or have some boats go to lower tier islands to get ancient artifacts

[dense nexus]

I've got like three, but I'm running out of fenceyard space

[hidden sphinx]

Level your chars up until they hit the div style that gives 1 xp per hour to all chars

[hidden sphinx]

Ancient is better

[dense nexus]

That's nice to know

[fading dust]

Such a low chance tho 💀

[tame walrus]

Mantra?

[hidden sphinx]

Still better

[tame walrus]

But doesn't that need them still in it to count?

[fading dust]

Tru pray to rnjesus

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah, if you get all chars on that then you’re getting 10 an hour even tho no one is on div

[tame walrus]

Alright will do that thanks.

[zinc torrent]

I did 4 free roll and I got king doot 💀

[hidden sphinx]

It’s not terrible, you could farm the first few islands mats so you can unlock fury relic asap, it’s like island 12?

[hard copper]

Is there a cap to alchemy bubble cost reduction, my cost reduction bubble is 31% which goes to over 100% if you take into account the mage is best and severapurple bubbles, but obviously the alc bubbles arnt free.

[hidden sphinx]

Cap for all the cost reduction bubbles is 40% at like lvl 5650

[hard copper]

Does that reduction get multiplied by the multiplier bubbles

[hidden sphinx]

The colour specific cost reduction bubbles do yeah

[hard copper]

but how does the math work, like you said if the cap is 40%, you can get over 2.5x on mage is best, which is 100% reduction

[tacit tulip]

redux cap from a single source is usually 90% I believe

[hidden sphinx]

Idk lava math rules don’t make sense

You can get the vial for new pet breeding to over 100%

It doesn’t mean every new pet is guaranteed

[fading dust]

Yea, I'm debating whether or not to send some boats to get 1st island mats to upgrade 2nd or 3rd boat speed

[untold saffron]

isn't that just because its not an absolute value but a "twice as likely" type thing?

[hidden sphinx]

Probably is, the example he shows with the vial description is 5% reducing 1 in 100 to 1 in 95 tho

[tacit tulip]

kitchen cost reduction would have been a better comparison haha

kitchen cost just works as a divisor. No buff = 1, 100% =2, s it halves costs

[green eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099088196027027606/1099088196291264623/ShinyPetEffect.png

[runic girder]

Ty

[hidden sphinx]

Basically any reduction using % are like the crystal chance

[runic girder]

Whats the reasonable level for shinies?

[hidden sphinx]

5

For most anyway

[runic girder]

Most?

[green eagle]

you need all to be 5

and one lvl 6

[tacit tulip]

it's something like 6 on one an 5 ont the rest to unlock all

[green eagle]

to get all infinite

[runic girder]

already have lv 6 snake

[green eagle]

atm at least

[runic girder]

Mean squirrel

[green eagle]

then get 5 on the others and you're set

[runic girder]

Gotta get a penguin first lol

[green eagle]

RIP not having all pets

[runic girder]

All things considered id say im like 60% done

Got most of w1 and 2, half of w3 and only mushroom from w4

[zenith nova]

Does anyone know if experience tables are published anywhere? Looking for how much exp it'll take to go from lvl 130 to 150

[green eagle]

do you have w4 splicer?

[runic girder]

Not yet

[green eagle]

i didn't make one until the last 4 pets of w4, but it doesn't make it a lot easier

[runic girder]

Going trough w4 with ES rn so ill get there soon

[green eagle]

it helps a lot on the earlier pets too getting more dna

@tacit tulip ❓ 😛

[tacit tulip]

splicing power on the DNA tool doesn't actually do anything

[green eagle]

really? what a scam

[tacit tulip]

so having the w4 one doesn't actually give you more haha

[green eagle]

he scammin us all

[tacit tulip]

ye very easy to test by buying a green one and comparing

[green eagle]

hey it made me FEEL better

it let you get dna for w4 mobs though, that helped a bunch with the last few pets for me

but it wasn't 100% necessary

[tame walrus]

I pet's supposed to feel very slow to make progress?

[tacit tulip]

for the most part yeah

the last few updgrades (50/60) make short work of what's left

[dense nexus]

I'm feeling a little lost on breeding after getting all the arena bonuses. Should I just beeline to bop box to get some converters for my spices or are shiny pets more useful?

[tacit tulip]

breedability has a lot of diminishing returns tbh so you can kinda do both. Save 1/2 slots for breeding progs and the rest for shinies

[dense nexus]

I'm not even sure the bop boxes would help that much, I'm lacking in pet power to get the most of the last spices

[glad hamlet]

Whats the best mob to farm for instalab followers

[untold saffron]

nobisect or snek for sampling vman runs?

[visual lava]

doot

[hidden quail]

Just get doot then u dont have to choose

For the low low price of prob 400$

[untold saffron]

mate spent £180 earlier without getting a doot

[hidden quail]

The rng gods blessed me, doot was like my second pull

[fathom lagoon]

For vman, xylobone isn’t one of the monsters to get to 1M right?

[dense nexus]

Do yous think bop boxes would make a difference here or I should just level up/try to get some rarer eggs for stronger pets?

[tacit tulip]

I believe nobisect doesn't help with samples so if you're confident getting the 3 boss kills in time snek is better

[fathom lagoon]

Ah wait I should be able to check death note if it’s there

[muted sandal]

anyone got a card loadout for sampling stuff when you have all the skill cards passive?I can only think of chaotic troll/amarok/bunny

[tacit tulip]

are you familiar with using nukes to get pet power for a spice?

[dense nexus]

No

[tacit tulip]

sec

need to move to pc

[dense nexus]

I don't have xylobones in my deathnote, so prolly not

[fathom lagoon]

Ok bet thank you brotha

[tacit tulip]

I don't actually need these anymore, just been too lazy to set up properly. You can use nukes to greatly improve your combat power for an area

[dense nexus]

Ah. Then generating these last spices is just a very slow process, then?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, but you only need one to get the meals

the end tables aren't too important, either

[dense nexus]

I was more worried about jewels

[tacit tulip]

I'll be real with you here, the jewels that need the last spices are almost impossible to get properly

you more or less wanna buy the cheap-er ones and then gem shop the rest

[dense nexus]

Ah, I was afraid that was the case. Whelp, spent the last few days farming batteries for nothing, then

But thanks! I'll try to set up so I can at least get one of each so later I can get the last meals

[tacit tulip]

not spent my spices for a couple weeks there

[dense nexus]

Still not quite there, but cooking has sped up a lot since I started getting them diamond plates

[tacit tulip]

may be a week actually

[dense nexus]

Yeah, I don't see how I'm going to be able to grind those in time. Guess I'll just have to check whenever I get all the cheap jewels

[tacit tulip]

I'm sure there's a madman who has ground those out

but you're almost certainly better off spamming boss keys to get gems

[vagrant mountain]

finally new nug

[dense nexus]

Nice

[vagrant mountain]

boys only want one things and its disgusting

[toxic ferry]

growing weeds

[vagrant mountain]

b i t s

[tacit tulip]

it disgusts me how good those respawn chains are

[dense nexus]

Oof, saphire rhinestone is only going to be available in December. And Pyrite Pyramite next year. I'll have to wait quite a bit

[tacit tulip]

that's the other side to it, the rotations are awful

[dense nexus]

Yup, w4 skills feels like the slowest skills to improve

[deft grail]

honestly just use gems on it whenever you have most of the easy jewels

[rotund smelt]

in TD is there anything i can do to make kicking the mobs w/ BM more consistent cause it feels finnicky sometimes

[tacit tulip]

I started with 1 chem oh my god so much clicking

[tacit tulip]

easier if you unequip your bow cause your character will run right up to the mob

[rotund smelt]

oooooo

[dense nexus]

That's the thing, two of the easy jewels are only coming up at the end of the year. Which I guess gives me time to save on gems

[ancient vine]

instrusive thoughts to click harvest all

[tacit tulip]

yeah I have more now

...

[ancient vine]

Kek

That meas more chances to Big chunk nugget

[tacit tulip]

gonna be here all night

[ancient vine]

[errant star]

Wait are you not supposed to?

[ancient vine]

With that plant, nope

[errant star]

Ah okay, im still at berri bush

[ancient vine]

You click one gives you hours the you can use the sprinkler and shovel

OMG i type so bad

Sorry new phone

[errant star]

Question with the shovel, should I just click em every few hours?

[ancient vine]

Yeah

[errant star]

ait thanks!

[zealous niche]

At least one hour between clicks because the timer is from last click, not last nug generated

So if you click it constantly you get nothing

[ancient vine]

To get more bits, try to reach farest islands and kitchen

[balmy cobalt]

quick question, am i correct in thinking mob respawn chance increases afk chances of getting rare items? It increases the base number of kills an hour

[errant star]

Still haven't done the calamity clammies fight in breeding for the next spice

That one's a toughie

[ancient vine]

Then no rush

Eventually you'll unlock all spices

[fading cape]

lol. Set my vman to farm crystals for crystal count down. Came back 4 hours later to only 28% countdown on skills. Realized I put all my console chips (including choco), on the wrong character before starting

So that's cool

[errant star]

does anyone have a comp for shores of eternity fight

[balmy cobalt]

Am I understanding this correctly or am i thinking wrong? The 2 keychains in the shop together are 20% respawn. If you buy both thats 40%. If you have x5 drop chance you would effectively be adding another 2x drop rarity. if you have 8 you would effectively be adding another 3.2x drop rarity. and that's just from keychain

[rustic garnet]

I don't believe respawn rate impacts drop rarity

just the total kills, which rolls more times against the DR

[tacit tulip]

It does give more base mob spawns tho, so you'll get more drops

[rustic garnet]

yes

not incresed DR (which is a big difference) it just rolls x more times

again, not exactly 40% more

[tacit tulip]

make it stop

[rustic garnet]

as you should already have some respawn and it would be additive

[forest berry]

how can i beat nightmare kk with a BB or a VMan do i just need to have a couple T worth of damage?

[balmy cobalt]

but if you afk and you kill 40% more mobs that's effective the same thing?

[rustic garnet]

say... if you have 120% respawn rate, adding 40% only pushes it to 160% (not 40% more)

No, it isn't the same thing

DR behaves completely seperate

specifically... You will see drop rates change as your DR goes up -- i.e. something with 1/2 drop rate will eventually go to 1/1

[tacit tulip]

vman can be done as early as like 10B if you focus the moles and AOE nuke to give you room to hit the boss. Most suggest 40-50B to do it comfortably.

you can afk it with 200B

[rustic garnet]

so uppding DR even .1 could be huge

[tacit tulip]

new nug, 50% improvement over the old nug

the 6 month dry streak is over

[forest berry]

damn most of my dudes are at only 10-30B 😦

[rustic garnet]

I see a lot of typing and I'm worried it wasn't clear 😉

[fathom lagoon]

Does anyone know if ES portal kills count towards death note?

Damn boooooooo

[forest berry]

its not

[neon abyss]

how do you get the coloured bits?

[tacit tulip]

No death note, but portal kills do spawn normal mobs

[rustic garnet]

if you want portal kills, it's better to afk

[tacit tulip]

1000Q white bits = green bit

[tough tusk]

?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea seems like it. Getting w1-w3 to 1M kills for vman

[rustic garnet]

If you want to get portal, or deathnote kills, it's better to afk

[ashen marsh]

guys, I have a question. Does the higher the ore mean the lower chances bars are created from them?

[narrow cloak]

what's the best class for rift 5 where you have to kill a large hp mob that heals? i did it with my shaman and es's, need 1 more class but all my other characters don't have enough burst

[rustic garnet]

BB actually is good

[neon abyss]

thx

[tough tusk]

oh sorry i thought you meant wormhole kills

[tough tusk]

its less about the rate and more about how much ore you need per bar

[tough tusk]

if you look at specific ore it will tell you how much ore you need for one bar

[ashen marsh]

ohhhh wow I'm assuming the higher the ore do more it takes to make a bar

[balmy cobalt]

if you have 10,000 kills per hour. and you have 5x rare drop rate. I feel like alot of people might stack 2 drop rate trophys which is x0.16. which would take you to 5.16. But if you got the 2 mob respawn trophys, that would take you to 14,000 kills per hour with 5x rarity. Even if you got .5 additional rare drop rarity from the drop rate trophies and hit 1 additional step, you're missing out on 4000 more kills at 5x rarity. I'm not sure if what im saying makes sense or not lol but essentially higher your drop rate goes, the more valuable mob respawn becomes for farming rares because each individual kill is starts becoming worth more then adding another another point in drop rarity

dont know, maybe im condusing myself lol

[tough tusk]

yes yes for example for copper bar you need 2 ores while for iron you need 4 (note that the time it takes to turn into bar is higher with better ores

[golden gust]

so i just got badger and have 1k lab lvls. Is there any reason to not just put them all on bear and passive div at this point?

[rustic garnet]

you are trying to equate drop rarity with monster respawn, don't do that

Simply put, killing more mobs is good

but you can't call it 'like more DR'

[tacit tulip]

Primarily, you want to consider nobisect for death note kills, and rabbit for better prints

[tiny drift]

Do you only get Katle keys after the quest?

[golden gust]

but i need 6 in lab @tacit tulip for the buffs still

[tacit tulip]

yup

[rustic garnet]

if I added .1 point of DR and it flips me over the 1:2 to 1:1 threshold, that's double the drop rate of the rare item

[tacit tulip]

so putting everyone on bear means you can't use rabbit, that needs people in lab

[tiny drift]

I have almost 1 million mole kills and not a single key

[rustic garnet]

if I am at 1:2 DR and I add some respawn, I'm not getting the boost to DR

kill more stuff is more total drops

just don't muck it with DR

[golden gust]

im not saying everyone. just the 6 i have in lab still currently

[rustic garnet]

Durrell, you need 5 in the lab and 1 connected to purmep outside the lab

so 6 active people in the lab

unless you have doot, then you get to play a different game

[tiny drift]

Do you only get Katle keys after the quest? I have almost 1 million mole kills and not a single key.

[golden gust]

why does someone OUTSIDE lab need connected to purmep

[rustic garnet]

because they get a free lab connection?

[tacit tulip]

The point is, if you connect 6 to bear, and one to purmep, you now have 7 people in the lab

which is too many

so sticking everyone on bear is contrary to what you're trying to achieve

[rustic garnet]

stick 5 on bear inside the lab and 1 to purmep, probably your ES

or whoever you active with the most

There was another reason to choose ES, but I forget

you want at least 1 bubo in the lab on the right side

[hardy quarry]

Bunny + Arctis ES = lots of print sampling

[rustic garnet]

might as well get some lab exp

[tacit tulip]

ES is best as primary link bear actually

Snek for taking samples
swap to Purmep for using your samples using poly skill

[rustic garnet]

you can get print sampling via VMAN

[golden gust]

i dont need lab xp

[rustic garnet]

oh right, non monster

[golden gust]

everyones over 100

[rustic garnet]

you might as well get more

no harm

I'm at 190?

[golden gust]

i guess im missing where purmep gets a free lab connection

where is that

[rustic garnet]

go read it's bonus

[tacit tulip]

well, purmep only works if you're in lab. So, the person has to be in the lab

[rustic garnet]

sorry

[rustic garnet]

I am messing two up here

yeah that one

he's counted as 'in the lab', no?

or is that someone else

[tacit tulip]

ok in my defence, I said rabbit

[golden gust]

bear

[rustic garnet]

sorry I may be confusing 2

[tacit tulip]

purrmep is not rabbit

[hardy quarry]

Bear is in lab, bunny is extra sampling, cat is that ss

[rustic garnet]

sorry, I'm talking about the SECOND connection on ES

my bad

I have no one on bear

except second ES

I have some people farming for portal kills (Naterspell, Natman, Nateten)

[golden gust]

okay i understand the confusion now

[rustic garnet]

and Naterspell is connected to the lab via bear

bear is bad in general, imo, as you want samples

you want to put people on bunny for samples, while being IN lab

for triple triple sample bonus

[golden gust]

but i still have portal pushes to do in w5

[rustic garnet]

that's fine

[golden gust]

was going to bear and do all of them at once

[rustic garnet]

rotate in/out

eww

but if you wish

[tacit tulip]

ngl I do do that sometimes 😄

[rustic garnet]

You could alternatively keep 5 in the lab and 5 pushing

and not sacrifice the 9x print

but w/e

I suspect splitting half is faster than all out

[serene solstice]

this is how you do TD e z

[golden gust]

which is why im asking

what to do lol

[rustic garnet]

split it

[golden gust]

to see if im being dumb anyways

[rustic garnet]

5 out 5 in and 9x print sample

it's just better overall

[tacit tulip]

bears main use is enabling laziness (which I am)

[rustic garnet]

AND you get lab experience on top of it

sure, I guess 'bear is lazy' but I don't agree

I feel managing 5 people is way lazier than 10

ignoring 5 people in the lab is far lazier, no?

[golden gust]

you have 5 out cus one is ES with bear on 2nd right?