#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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like months or weeks or days for 500
Personally I'd just definetely prioritize other stuff before going for the 500 with that DR
at 13x DR and 600b dmg i get like 150ish overnight?
6.66x dro prate.. mwhahaha
How are people dealing with the mobs on nightmare kruk vman. Got my damage up to nearly 40b but mons spawn quicker than I kill them. Any damage to boss is soon healed and I'm back to square one
Get that whip out boy and that coin toss
Someone once said to toss the coins towards the feet of the mobs to make it bounce better or something 🤷
Plan your mk aoe nicely, last minute kinda thing
jesus how did you get it that high ?
some crazy person is at 22m/hr…
dooted
someone also got a 180k nugget!? like wtf is the max??
higher level equals higher range
Nightmare vman wasn't terrible at 50 bil
there's no real max
shovel levels?
wow 🤩
if only it increased that minimum a bit faster tho
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cant wait for companion that makes all nuggets additive
as you get larger and larger buckets the additive is less beneficial l, but gives continuous progression and averages everyone out lol
any idea how much drop rate you need to garantee boss cards ?
Wait what sailing food?
Golden Hampters
Oh
The W5 golden food
both w5 golden food are insanely good
I thought you meant like a craftable food that helped sailing like bubble gum for worship
You used to be able to pause sailing while your ships were returning, meaning storage capacity was obsolete because you could just pause and empty the storage pile and go back to the sailing screen. It was fixed when SB was added I think
It also meant food was actually good because you'd always get full value without overfilling the pile
i was there for that but thats not what i was talking about
the bonus on the food used to be displayed higher before, it either got the displayed number fixed or was tuned down at some point
it was quite easy to hit 100% hampter on launch I believe
you can still do it on warriors but need a lot more buffs
dont you need like 50k Ghampters and over 20% bubble to reach close to 100% on warriors now?
all gold food give deminishing returns, so hitting 100% would be hard, if it was easy on start it was most likely a woopsie by lava
the stamp to multiply the g food bonus can be a godsend for that
one of the many woopsies lol
Active or afk to get molten core knuckler recipe? I’m roughly ~40b damage and 8.5DR right now. Not even sure for best class to farm a single rare drop like this.
single rare drop is ES but you're still very much at the whims of RNG
damn 100k only gets me to 90%
god i wish there was a shinny pet to boost sigil leveling
Damn, that's a good amount of xp. Been 14 lvls

yeah lava really need to add other source, even the w5 artefact barely do a dent
park all there and check once in a while and pray to rngesus
160k?
Yeah lol
sheesh
I should probably use those
lmaaooo
i though artefact only increased the effect not the leveling rate
Each character has 10k-20k and I just had 160k in my chest
I havent bothered distributing them in a long time lol
it increase the effect of the sigil that boost sigil lvling rate tho
same for me, 115k collecting dust for a while
good point
jeez you guys making feel broke
yesssssssssssss
If you DK farm for any significant amount of time you end up with a lot of golden food
Yeah I've been getting an insane amount from key farming the past few days
is dk better then bubo ?
for crystal drops yeah
How to get more loot pile capacity for sailing? 4 seems quite shite
What exactly is it with this plunderous monster? I understand they some sort of giants spawning when the flag is active. But what are this coins dropped and what is the number on the flag?
has anyone here gotten to 1k total construction buildings made for teh con mastery perk of +100 levels?
Bubo: Money
DK: Crystal drops
ES: Mob drops (except wurms due to hp scaling)
seige breaker spawns plunderous monsters
gems shop, ahcievements
Right, thanks man
if you kill one, yyou start droping coins. Upon picking up those coins, a mob will instantly respawn
Ye that's what I noticed
1 coin is 1 Respawn?
And the number on top of the flag is what?
coin counter
how many coins you have in the bank
Ohh okay I see
you can only have X amount of mobs spawned on teh map
@tacit tulip if you got the 1k con buildings, whats your max bnook level?
get more wisdom from alechemy
245, the +100 is for the library building not your book level
Ye I should work on it I guess
post office mana should be enough
oh shit
read that wrong. tyty
then i WONT be rushing that lol
I don't have so many post office points yet. Only like 130?
man is basicaly a non existant resource after a bit, there is also a start talent that boosts regen that you could get for the time being
how do people get so many post office boxes?
Good idea. I have it I should put points in it
once you start getting lots of silver pens you get boxes like crazy
Well getting Silver pens is a problem ig
more damage, more drop rate, more multikill, and choco cookie and you farm those like crazy
use DK on bored bean for 2-3 days...hmm, wait, i think at your point now it should took 1 week (maybe less if you have choco chip but you still at new-game phase so i would say 5~10 days)
and i mean 5~10 days active
For how many pens
choco chip is a game changer
What’s the best way to improve construction speed? I have points on all chars In construction P.O box. 100k red salts, and construction speed alchemy gem lit up. About 2.88M speed right now
are you talking about the food that boosts weapon power?
lab chip
ah
ii just swithced to bullfrogs for more pop obols - not even my Vman has 13 dr
you don't know what you are missing untill you get it, its like motorboating some big titties
flat exp cogs and exp directional booster cogs pointed at however many squires you have
if i decrease snail reset chance with mail does it only count for the current snail lvl? or does it take over to the next snail lvl aswell
!guide has a section for it
i dunno, but at my only x6~x7 drop rate, i used to have 1000~1500 pens each 3 days(only active 12~15h a day), now i have x10 drop rate, i get 2300+ after 2 days(48h active)...
Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
heads up pop drops from frogs not crystals
how do you get it ? is it from the shop
weekly chip rotation or gamble gem shop
I have x3 droprate
ah ok
good enough, DK doesn't care about that
look up what you need to buy it so you dont miss it on next rotation it comes up, feels real bad if you cant buy it
yee i know
he will stack up drop rate him self
what is the stat that it gives?
everytime crystal mob dies ther is a chance a new one spawns
Hmm ye I definetly have to look into many things, I think I lack in some easy free stuff because I have no idea
after kill crystal mob have 75% chance to spawn 1 gain
it's an average buff of 4x crystal mobs
good ol choccy chip
i have 6808 pinion spurs and u need 200k and ive never spent any 💀
yo for the ppl at endgame/approaching endgame, which chars are you spending your time active on
any of these
get them smithing rates up, buy points
bubo/ES/DK depending on what you need
Mainly just more construction levels and cog adjustments?
not vman or sb normally tho
for now you just need these 5 skill, since you are low lv now, max the red skill as you can, but spare point on blue skill or just 1~25 points if you can't
ye because of the construction bubbles in alchemy, cons speed mainly comes from very high leveled squire/dk on the board
i see.. yeah I converted to DK/ES when they came out, but I went full circle back to bubo
Since everyones talking classes figured ask now, im assuming there's no way to speed up respawns on the blood zerker ability wise right? like all the new classes have
The alchemy gains are just too hard to pass up
Just afk
I have 1 and 4 maxed. He is only lvl 120 or so
nope.. blood zerker's basically made to afk
oh wait, you should max 4th and 1st skill first, 3rd skill just need 1 point, my mistake
so am i crazy for hoarding like 500K + statues in storate to wait for 100% chance to double statues ?
Ye I have that
Figured as much, hes my 2nd of 6th I need to reach the boss in w5 so...looks like it'll be a while, ty though guys
Depends how far off you are and how long it will take to get there. If you're not even close then its probably not worth it
that good enough, if you have spare candy, can use it in w4 jellyfish map for rush lv, get some talent point if you don'y need, jump straight into active at bored bean
89.7% rightnow
yes, cuz the statues will probably help you get statues faster
you need 27 max vials to get 100 so prob not too far off
Actually he has nothing maxed, some why the points are reseted, but ye I got him 198 points in total only in tab4
btw, this is my items filter, it contain all trash item you just need once
90/90 2-2-2 :v
and 1 in last skill
I get +25 extra from pet
exp on Dk once you hit a point will just go brrr so you'll get the points you need soon enough
yea but if i fail that 10% roll, i don't know if my mental can take it
good for you, i mean you put 90(+25) into 1st and 4th skill
But why w4 jelly, is it more xp?
I hereby grant you whatever RNG i have left to not fail that roll
best exp you can get by candy now
Problems is my dk didn't even unlocked btbis map
since w5 can't use candy
If you think you can get the last few relatively soon then yeah waiting might not be bad
just use candy on your furthest map
Flombeige are always good to candy for that pesky gold twine anyway, the amount of candies I went through to get my first helmet whew
You'll get everything you need candying super chows and eclipse skull though
This my furthest map on dk and that's my candy storage
I wouldn't waste candy on class exp in W4
Just afk at the furthest map you can do in W5
only use blue, red and green candy, don't touch other, you will need them
Thats backwards
Btw
You save small candies for SB
When is next dungeon happy hour?
To get forge progress
why?
Use big candies for other stuff
2hr 20mins from now according to IE
big candy only for deathnote, no one would like to use candy on forge...they only use on forge same time with 1b deathnote ~~
go to dungeon room, it should tell you
Since zerker is meant to be mainly afk, should I just put all my best gear on one of the other guys and leave him with mid gear?
Thanks I should be awake in 2h20
I hope I get the 4th frog down this time, I never managed to
The forge only gives progress when when you claim afk gains so thats once per afk meaning a 1 hour candy and a 12 hour candy give the same forge progress
I got 9 Gold Dice Obols i did not reroll. Rerolling them now would probably be worse than just farming new ones right?
need small group of strong players who dont fail their rng rolls for that
So using 12 1 hour candies is 12x more bars than 1 12 hour candy
Ye I always go random, my guild never has time
hey guys, are the ratio for the mat -> gold trades always constant?
Sb gets alls the small candies if you ever want to push the forge bar vials or green stack bars
i know, but no one just use candy for forge as main reason
Yeah you do it with gmush or death note
main reason of candy is 1B deathnote
Almost found my last hampter I need to make the bigbag upgrades
By spamming small candy
i got it random, so it is very possible, and i have killed for randoms before, it is very much rng reliant on getting good orange item and good rolls with damage drops
You use big candies with ES as he gets higher kph so its more efficient
aint gonna max itself
And also its worth mentioning that yes people do candy just for forge
so close
Thats what my candy is going towards right now
higher than Siegebreaker?
why do people do gmush on sb then? am I missing something?
Main reason SB gets used is because its the only way to get forge progress
I mean my ES is far better geared then my siege breaker and somehow siege breaker still gets more gmush kills per hour
For pure kph ES is better
for AFK gains though???
i legit dont know how SB is getting more kills
Yeah
with proper setup and gear es can get more
So with similar gear, my SB gets more kph as well...
btw is nightmare troll card passive or active ?
active, you need it equipped
this? active
k so its not worth farming atm
@sick sentinel so your ES has more damage than SB then?
Assuming perfect gear with fully maxed talents ES performs better
If your SB is winning it means he is ahead in one of those metrics
Or it could be div difference too
My SB is on nobi and ES currently is not so SB is getting more for me right now
same, i havent tested nobi/snake combo before with all my gear on yet
if only i could doot something about that
interesting.. i always thought these two talents just made SB scale MUCH higher than other characters:
Yeah I guess its worth mentioning that doot closes the gap between the two
ES used to have snake and mkpt talent
Snake diff doesn't matter with doot though
hmm maybe it's cuz i'm dooted that SB's doing more dmg
Thats probably why
i guess ones of the other seperators between players is i am much more focused on mage characters
But yeah, my ES was better geared, and higher lvl'd but still doing less than SB was (for AFK gains)
Thank doot for that 
Although if their damage was equal maybe ES would still outperform with a maxed multikill talent
The difference would be a lot smaller though
yeah but i mean doot aside, assuming you were rocking the same divination, gear, lvls, etc., SB's talents are just more suited for higher kph
ES def >>>> for active though
I think you're underestimating how strong the multikill talent
Also without doot ES gets 30% extra afk with nobi/snake compared to SB just on nobi
sorry which multikill talent are you referring to
Mana is life from the wizard tab
guys what can I put on my 2nd SB for skilling tab?
oh fk me, i completely neglected that tlent lmao

Agi, symbols, family bonus, and sailing bonuses
damn did i waste all those candies trying to 1b death note on SB then? i hope not haha
Granted even with the talent your SB will probably still outperform ES just because you said your SB has higher damage
does sailing exp stack?
Doot closes the gap between the two classes by quite a lot
true that, good to know 😉
No, but no harm in doubling up since SO LITTLE helps skilling
i'm maxing the 2nd one on my first SB
is there any secret to get plants with 5 and 6 mutations in gaming?
Yeah I did all my eclipse skulls on SB for forge gains
I value that over the kph from ES

not yet, but from this image, you could evolve 5 times. from what i understand this means going from any basic plant to +5 others, right? @sick sentinel
you would need this unlocked, i've never rly looks at what you posted so idk about that
By default they have 4 different tiers which can be increased to 7 tiers through superbit unlocks
i have 2 of the superbit plant evos unlocked and it displays this
hmmm from what i understand that would be another evolution, meaning that a plant would evolve 6 times
exactly
my log book is like this at the moment, considering the first plant:
this means i had 3 evolutions for it, right?
No thats 4
i believe the first counts as an evo too
It counts the first one
oh, ok !
So if you have 5 unlocked it means you can evolve 1 more time
and this boost tells me odds, ok i got it now 🙂
When do we get to get this choco Chip the next time?
thanks @signal osprey and @sick sentinel , you have been very helpful
Like december for the next shop rotation 😦

Chip doc is in w3/w4 pins btw
Ow blyat

December 27
Or costly gamble at 1/22 with 7 weekly attempts in gem shop
You can just buy chips yeah
Its a gamble but yes
Gemshop chip purchses, pure gambling tho
Its how I got mine, took 3 tries because I was spooned
Gambling ain't bad, I been addicted 3 years ago
Well you will have to spend some money on it to get it in any reasonable time assuming average luck
Aint no pity in it either keep in mind
But if thats okay then the chip gamba isnt that bad honestly
noone tell him about doot
You can get a lot of decent stuff along the way
I have plenty just from buying them in rotation
Anyone need 1? 2? Maybe 5?
Whew, finally greenstacked every mob (not boop)
lmao gz dude, never touch chip gamba again everything else can wait
ROFL
congrats
Lol what
OP
Bcs 1 Chip?
Choco chip is core requirement for a lot of stuff
It is probably the single strongest buff in the game
Can't even read the description of my chips
where do we farm this?
Without chocochip you can't properly Grind pens, max PO box, get dice obols.
Most important, Crystals are the core source of XP+Money, without it you get a ton less money/xp
@hollow wasp
some w3 mob like quenchies
hmm tough farm damn
all the w3 skill statues are like that
i think i remember people saying its pinchy gains
Good luck
its just additive right?
Thanks so it was giga worth doing this 3 chip purchases
Can I somehow see description of the chips ingame?
looks like theyre on phone, does it work by clicking it?
what was the 3rd active xp card? moonmoon, flies and?
Ah mobile i'd have no idea my bad
The ghost event card
Ye im on phone and it don't seem to work
The 3 chips you have are
Chocolate chip = 75% chance for a crystal to instantly respawn when you kill it
Blue square one = 12% line width in lab mainframe
The chip = 20% basic atk speed.
is accuracy just used for hitting monsters or is it also used for multikill?
Hitting monsters and indirectly crit
From this vip book:
https://i.imgur.com/eJsxTzH.png
Which helps you get 200% crit chance to guarantee mega crits (400% dmg)
https://i.imgur.com/eIizcAL.png
oh sweet I haven't unlocked that one yet
do you guys know if maestro is better than DK for pens and obols?
DK for sure better due to insta respawn
DK is better by a lot
dang im trying to find purpose for my mm
Maestro is only good for farming bosses where DK cant stack orb
skilling cards, he is the best at that
Other than that he afk skills
any idea when I should toggle this on guys?
thx
Woah choco sounds good. Ty.
Early on nearly always to get faster seashell ranks AND more importantly more genes for mutations to unlock chem plants faster
Isn't it good with maestro then? As he has increases crystal spawn chance.
Its good on everyone you active farm with
its good. But DK is just overwhemingly better
Okay thanks.
btw I finally got automation arm 5... but then i hit fury relic XD, what should i use 20 books on?
It's nice to toss on maestro sometimes briefly to stack up your skilling XP decrease especially for stuff like fishing
strongest efficiency skill , then active skill for skilling then symbols . After that its no mans land
For this talent:
https://i.imgur.com/zamDC76.png
yeah those genes are so hard to get now. I haven't gotten lucky.
does anyone actualy uses that talent tho? i can only see that being good for fishing
With his AOE now i kinda love it for some easy levels (and yeh mainly fishing)
i see. i should try using that one day
I used it to balloon some worship levels for the species epoch talent
can someone tell me how wormhole emperor bonus works with multiple characters? does it use the highest skill or lowest? i can't find anything anywhere on this
do I have to have lvl 1 on it in order for it to work?
IE shows it under players/skills (toolbox also shows it somewhere)
https://i.imgur.com/2x0gzqC.png
i see
But either way, vman has such high crystal rate that its ezpz
to get to 75 within minutes
i just dont have any skill that i need to level right now on mman, everything is already so high
i click on it but its still asleep lol
then i get last 25% with candy?
remove all plants
could/should work?
I just mainly want to get fishing to 90-100 atm
If you have 2 ES you only need to level the talent on one. They dont stack and it will use the higher of the two
although with 5* cards im card farming afk gain cards now :/
hmm makes sense, i would be more inclined to do that if fishing wasnt some dead area after a while. maybe we get it back after w6
thanks. i remember someone once saying it takes the lowest so i wanted to check
hopefully, i like fishing stuff
One can only hope
wait, where does it show crystal kills? did he finally put that in?
I dont care for fishing but I wouldnt mind more exp gains so I can finally bother getting to 100 on vman
Well yeah theres bound to be new fish at some point
fair point
Its just a matter of whether it will be anytime soon or not
underwater world !!
lest go! botany from idle skilling might be introduced
el psy congro
If spirited valley doesnt have farming its time to riot
crystal kills?
wanna raise my own crocs
Its a valley though
its a forest
Yeh hope so too, i just want to have them all at 100 
Also gg crystal chance:
https://i.imgur.com/GchD6mT.png
Lol
lol
1 in 9
problem is that u have to candy the last 25% doont u
That sounds amazing haha
catchin to 100 mining to 100 chopping to 100 is very very easy with normal gains
the only problem is fishing, stupidly hard
I mean you dont really have to candy it if you dont want to
Ah! Finally!
Hit ccd cap and then just go afk at fish
fair
What class is the best for rift? Is it es?
overall yes
@unique lagoon @hollow wasp That's on vman (who has another talent for more crystal chance) else im 1/30 on other chars
And others require you to do the challenge on multiple characters
So you have to use different classes
If you got other skills at xp reduction cap (e.g. 75%/75%) and keep using up fishing, will it always be a guaranteee to fill up just fishing?
or is it a split between all skills and some reductions would just go to waste since its already at cap?
ROFL
I guess it gave me a fishing level 
Yeah thats the strat
You ccd until you hit cap
Then you skill and level up and keep skilling until 25% exp
Then when you ccd again you ge tthe 75% and level up
how did he lv up fish inside cave
Then get another 75% reduction
I'm fishing for crystals 
Its still the same amount of crystals/skilling required but it allows you to do 2 levels of each at a time
1/30 doesn't sound bad too
So its less back and forth between skilling and combat
Does TranQi in divinity work while active farming?

oh so it gives u 75%, not get u to 75%
Yeah it will always reduce the maximum exp required by 75%
cool
So 100m will go to 25m
less work
And if you get that 25m ahead of time then you level up while fighting
And then you can get the next 75% while you're there
Just to double confirm, you're not taking any shortcut really but just making it more convenient?
Let's say (for easy math) Every level up is 100m xp (essentially 25m xp being 25%)
You get your 75% fishing reduction, then you fish for 50m xp (25m for the first level up and the other 25m to setup the next level. Then do crystal 75% get an instant level up and more crystal for the next 75% to start from the top?
for sailing what should I put as my minimum chest required if I'm trying to just get artifacts?
Yeah its the same total exp required meaning the same number of kills and skilling required
only going to be able to check once or twice a day
It just lets you do 2 levels of skilling at once and then 2 levels of killing at once
Instead of swapping back in forth every level up
wood
Its purely QoL
oh... weird how that works lol
is this where starfire is?
why cant i go in?
Because theres two portals in that room
That portal also leads to nothing
The correct one is at the bottom
4h left to get this fella to 5*
Any recommendations what's next? trying to get all wood first i guess before i sample
Any hunter here that can help me and one another summon King Doot?
skill eff one i guess
what server
id suggest sampling dns tbh
and just to be sure you need an archer right
Bobjoepickle server 15
All the eff/afk cards for mining and chopping as well as all cards in easy resources for the set
Once you have the World 5 bubbles, is it best to just boost Cost reduction?
Cost reduction is a lot less important with atoms existing
Cheaper bubbles means you can level it more but it also means it takes longer to get to 100m
So just slam Speed for W6 prep?
Personally I just stopped
Put everyone on sigils
But W6 prep is fine if you want
Just preference really
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Is it usual to have new bubbles right at world release?
You can preunlock them now if you want
Can already preunlock next bubbles (i didnt) because it looks annoying if you spam the up arrow and end up on a page without anything on it yet xD
There are people with bubbles unlocked through W7
You just get them immediately when theyre added
Yeh the preunlock i know about, but do the bubbles get released with the new world at the same time usually?
No idea
W5 bubbles came out with the new world launch
But as for previous worlds I cant say
I started the game towards the end of W4
How?
I assume you just get to the last w5 bubble and then brew a new bubble again
Same way you unlock the existing bubbles
O really? You just get the bubbles unlocked on W6 release? Interesting okay
Fill up the cauldron and then hit new bubble
And if u r geting a new 1 , it tels u?
Also I just want to confirm when it says max capacity here, this just means max storage capacity correct? I'm still accruing atoms I assume.
What icon do the empty bubbles use?
The cost per attempt at a new bubble increases for each bubble unlocked so if your cost goes up then you got one
They dont have an icon
You cant view the page theyre on yet
Ok
Tnx
Ah thank u
Orange has a W6 bubble unlocked and green doesnt
But clicking the up arrow just doesnt do anything
How can u tell someone is on w7
They just remember they’ve had the success thing 10 times?
I think you just have to keep track yourself
If theres an indicator somewhere I'm not aware of it
the cost to unlock next is an indicator
Yeah it indicates that you've unlocked a new bubble but it doesnt tell you how many specifically does it?
A bit strange but that makes sense but seems kind of worth doing a couple
Imo theres not much point to doing it now
Sigil progress has a short term benefit whereas unlocking something that isnt even in the game yet does not
I guess if ur activing bubo and sigils are in the take forever territory
Also your cauldron brewing speed scales with level so doing it later when you have higher alch levels will make it faster
It takes advantage of the cc
So to spend the least amount of time on it possible you would do it as close to W6 release as possible
Yeah probably other things too
Ultimately its not a big deal either way
Like boosting book value
Mostly just preference
As long as you get the bubbles for W6 launch thats what matters most
Personally I'll do it later
I would think we would start semi-soon,no? Kattle just came out, but I assume other than some minor patches, the next big patch is W6?
Yeah but it will be a few months at least
A new world isnt gonna be another 2-3 week update
Fair, but 1.5% is 1.5% haha, RNG over 4 cauldrons could be a pain.
I wouldnt expect that until like november/december at the earliest and I think thats kind of optimistic
Yeah.
Especially if we still have a few more small patches to go before he starts on W6
New companions for 10 week mark
I want trading so bad, not having sheep is becoming semi-annoying in comparison to the rest.
1.5% is ezpz with bubo cc though
Yeah, especially if I get ancient fury, should be fine I agree.
should I max this on one character while sitting in divinity for shrines?
can, but the shrines should always be in w4 kinda thing anyways
i'm lvling up for goat and using bear meanwhile
Do eldritch artifacts have a lower chance to get than ancients? I feel like ive been on the same one forever
If they’re gonna sit in div then lab for most of their life and have the star talent points it can probably fit into their Skilling tab
yeh but moving shrines resets their timer, being in divinity itself is only short term, whereas being in w4 lab with goat (and lab before w5) was way longer and long term
not really only after you finish div with some of your guys
sitting in w5 altar is a temporary thing. Long term its w4 shrines
Does vman keep his unlocked portals each speedrun?
Still not sure it would be worth resetting ur shrine timers
Like, I just wait for the cooldown to wear off and them continue where I left off?
probably situational on how far/long u got them
If u can get a lvl and wouldn’t have anyone in lab sure
Why W4?
I just unlocked him and did my first speedrun and now I am just confused
Because w4 lab with goat god
unless you expect to not move the shrine for the next 2 years, dont move shrine
At what point do you swap to that, once you have all gods unlocked?
They stay w4 permanently it’s by far the most afk’ed spot
do vman void, push as many portals, buff ends, you get talent pts. can then do another void run whenever, less portals wont affect you. You can also do mob samples inside void due to the huge MK buff.
At goat
Since cook kind of guarantees to have one, and if you are doot less you would use w4 for 6x printing. And if you have doot, there is no reason to use w5 altar
Thanks for the tip! The portals do not reset do they?
before w5 you already had all shrines at w4 due to cooking+lab. In most cases it's barely worth moving them to w5 for div because it's like a week or so.
Well, your next run you start from 0 again
oooh so I just try to push harder next time then
But if u end with 0 portals you keep your highscore on portals and all talents.
Okay I see
if you can see using w5 altar for another 2 years, go ahead and move it
yeh, get more dmg, and stuff like that., or plan your route better, like dont forget about portals like hitting a snelbie, a plank, carrot spike game, mimic dungeon etc.
If ur shrines have 0 hrs and u had them on some random map, and ur not going to use lab/cooking/chars on w4 maps with lab node active AND you’ll be on div altar for at least a level because they’re low levelled
Another alternative with doot i guess would be gmush?
If doot and u won’t level div/lab
yeh, along with if you just unlocked a new shrine while being in w5 altars, may as well toss that there for few quick early levels
Good point
Huh I think I reverted my setup. What's the ideal setup then without Doot? The atom production one on the guide sheet?
Sorry not sure i fully understand what you mean
Id still say w4. Sure you may have one guy doing gmush, but in the long run i think w4 will still have more traffic, and not worth to reset to w1
Guess I'm wondering what the setup is, as on the guide it mentions connect to something other than goat
If ur lvl 100 lab and have all gods unlocked and don’t plan on doing god rank
And when w6 comes out, see if it becomes the new hub town or not
a bunch of variables. but usually once you get goat you have all on goat inside lab except 1-3 chars.
Either main pusher like bubo/es/dk could be on nobi. once you hit last map could switch to bear. Also depends if you plan to chow/zow with BB then he can be nobi. Bubo on bear is nice for the extra talent lvls from bear (once you hit wurms)
Tiger depends, I usually had it on Maestro i think.
Huh...okay, whats the point of having them so high lvl in the lab? I have everyone at around 60 didnt think there was much of a point.
I feel like a lot of the "god setups" has a lot of variables on where/how far you are on a ton of stuff.. like lab levels, div unlocks, other progress like w5 zone, bb chow/zow etc. stuff moves around
Family level from rift 16
75 for chip slots, 100 for rift mastery
Hmm okay. I get it.
Nobi also great on SB for gmush farming
Since that's what sb does 99% of the time xD
Things like nobi, omni, and hare are going to help with more meaningful progress
Than unlocking past purr or lab levels after u can light it up with 6 ppl
Yup, much situational.
Just be sure to goat until you get to tiger or higher. Now with 2x weekly unlinks you could also some point once properly prepared to flutterbird when leveling up your low skills, ton of red pearls that you can use to get to 50 fishing/cooking on all chars
(not important just a side note)
Do i try for crystal steak or do i go for the 2nd to last islabd to upgrade dmg per 250 wisdom bubble?
crystal steak opop
Been on it for like a week now, no luck yet
not sure what you mean with your 2nd part
2nd last island is just dmg per gold bars or 10% all stats
I agree in general a god link guide can never take into account the individual nature of progress balance across the whole game and how you play/focus
Need the material for the bubble
Ohhh
To unlock the island?
just do a quick trip to get the music notes, then go back for steak
Sounds good
Should/could always have 1 boat unlocking the next island
Do you generally have your cooking BB linked to bear?
finished
Lol
omniphau
The image behind w6 is from the kattlecruk update?
Nice, congratulations 🙂
Which did u collect? I assume u bought most of them
That looks like it cost you a lot of gems?
only nightmare + boop + king poop and king doot '.' + chaotic kettle and chaotic troll that i had done long time ago
farmed everything else
Very nice
how many nightmare cards were you gettting for troll per nightmare?
i was getting over 15 cards per coloseum run for biggie hours/ baba / mutate mush
didnt farm nightmare
oh I see
too expensive, not worth
so you ruby'd all of the nightmare ones and farmed normal/chaotic
what about the new boss?
new boss farmed normal, chaotic/nightmare i cardified
ah ok
the drop rate was too bad to drop with keys
the mini bosses were very easy to farm also, DK on colloseum gave a ton of cards
yeah I have got 400 keys today from active farming
I'd imagine 80 runs on chaotic gets me 50-80 cards tops
w5 boss?
yep
oh yeah hard drop
active SB farming though
I imagine a day of ES farming gets 500+ maybe more?
SB is for the
i got a lot more keys with DK, around 50 per hour
DK shouldn't get more keys?
thought so, but i ws surprised when mine did
my ES is not strong enough for tremor wurms map
wow ok
i can only reach portal 140-150
that seems good enough to me
not that amazing for a ton of drops that have 25k drop rate
my bubo got me a lot of keys
its good but i think dropping a key when your DK has 800 orb multiplier must be better
but that was only me, so dont take my word as something accurate
Are u basically done with w5 boss now?
not rly? i still have to drop 4 necklace
guessing he's not done as scarfs are good and trophies...
Ah nice
trophies i have 2 obols im done
trophies done?
2 trophies,if i get more i get it. But i dont see the need
for trphoies, do you need to kill on the person to get a trophy?
i want 3 trophies tho, 1 for BUbo, 1 DK 1 ES
you need to get the wings to drop on the character with the quest you want to turn in.
Maybe one day I'll get a kruk trophy 
u can do it
thats only what? 14 thousand keys lol
Yeah I can get close to 2k keys a day
damn man, unfortunate. Hopefuly u will get it soon
did u finish dropping all obols at least?
Yeah I've been trashing those for awhile
Printable resources are usually the easiest but honestly try to max all of them that you think you feasibly can
For these traits -- can you NEVER go above 1 HP?
Maybe maple log or es on snakes
skilling > monsters is a good route
just follow the order of vials since its from easiest to hardest resource
that's a bad choice at your level (from others in view)
need to throw 2 sb 1 bm at frogs map or g mush and do 2 minutes claim '.,'
pretty hardcore for me
Why 2 min claims?
why 2 minute claims?
idk if 2 min would be enough for me to get the max use but maybe
Its the fastest way to do it assuming you arent candying
But candy would be faster
I mean -- is he going for splicing?
i just follow the order
Well assuming you have max brimstone furnaces
Copper bar would take about 1000 candies
Not 100
for smelting it maxes out with 2 min worth of kills
i have all except the last 4 unfortunately
but at what max forge capacity?
Seriously?!
The forge cap is too small for the million kills you do
cuz i can only get 32k per slot every 1h claim
So isn’t it a waste of candy
I guess that was before the arcade bonus so you could get that down a little lower
wow
Not by a whole lot though
If the 1hr candy is doing the same as a few min claim
oh man, i wish i could max that on arcade but its so expensive
That's crazy, I wish I knew that ages ago
No its not a waste because its a byproduct of candying other things
u are basicaly throwing candy in the garbage by doing it
Smelting talent counts all afk kills including multikills
That’s sad
Candy your eclipse skulls and get bars along the way
if i active farm archer for a few days any ideas how long it would take
unless u are getting some deathnotes , but still. would give u many monsters
I guess it’s the same as what I’ve been wasting
Doing long afks for forge progress
I didn't realize forge cap was so light for the lower bars
no wonder it feels like copper/iron take forever
i need to get 100k plunder stacks some day
A hell of a lot longer than you wanna hear
Active farming doesnt smelt much as it only counts base kills
ah that sucks
So much longer that I dont thing anyone has calculated it
Because its not feasible
yeah afk kills are the only feasible way
alright ill do like a 5 min back and fourth strat
Wow this is news for me
you get so fewer non afk kills
Candy or 2 minute claims are simply the only way to get forge progress
Thats just the way it is
So only afk but it’s not gonna empty and keep smelting
A single afk claim can only smelt 1 filling worth of forge cap
i'd math it out and do 2 minutes claim on 2 sb + 1 BM. Maybe get it over in one go? put on some movie or something
Do u have to go empty it
do i have to go back to the forge or will it get emptied once its maxed
Nope
maybe ill get some gold sandwiches 
oh sweet then. much easier
Ore cap is limited, but bar cap is unlimited
oh and plese dont use the OIL from w5.. U will burn through 10M stacks so fast and it wont even be worth
save oil for hard bars
yeah im not using it for this dw
i wouldve ran out by now lol
is it worth booking the talents?
so i dont need to go all the way got it
That’s the breakpoint for an extra second
alright ty fellas
These say 'max hp 1' do you ONLY h ave 1 HP max?
You mean the forge talent?
Or can you go above 1?
If so it doesnt matter
Raising forge talent doesnt matter much unless you want to active on them
ah ok
Yeah u could always check if 120 is doing it
I assume do a 2 min claim and it should be at ur max cap if it used it all
ill start on that project after im done my short pearler shell farm
It doesnt do anything. Its just placeholder text
The difference between a 240 book and a 100 book is emptying your forge in 30 seconds or 15. Either way you get the same amount of bars every time you claim afk gains
not the last one, any of them
The weird squiggle is apparently the symbol for nothing
I don't want to do my 20 HH with 1 HP and die instantly
All 4 of them are placeholders
ok weird
They all dont do anything
fair
The universal symbol for nothing here yet
Its like you can upgrade the 4th liquid cauldron at alch 120, but doesnt do anything
placeholder is still a placeholder regardless if it sounds like an actual effect
I wouldn’t take that buff even if it was real
Let me decant my 4th cauldron while we wait 
Good luck this could be a game changer
if only. it'd be great to get a headstart, especially since you can't do anything else with it and it could be leveling up with all my cranium cooking now
This is unbuyable, right?
dungeons have been out long enough that we don't have anything to spend the credits on anymore. flurbos too, besides the completely wonderful flawless keychain rolling system
gratz!
75k flurbos to blow on keychains
don't let the almost good ones bloat your storage chest
yeah I've been fairly quick to toss
seems like 6% stats is min
% damage is crap
% afk is great
and pretty much ignore the rest, maybe respawn
Can it get lower than this?
Crystal spawn chance I mean
1/11?! Damn, I don't know what I'm missing
Crystallin levels and shrine levels i suppose
If i have a god set as a second link on my elemental sorcerer via the talent does the minor link bonus work on that character ?
I am going to farm divinity lvl to 100 on every char. Is it any reason to not use goharut to be in lab+divinity together on 9 characters ( with 1 purrmep)?
why snehabatu? AFK gains doesnt interact with divinity I think
Why when im playing party dungeon or everyone is afk or everyone disconnects?
fuck this last alch bubble holy shit
2.4% chance to get. 100 tries. no luck
ON ALL 3 CAULDRONS
that's the normal experience unfortunately
w5 or w6 bubbles?
nah i just want the dmg per stat bubble
argh, didn't think about it not being capped
and i cant fucking get it
Time for mooooore bubo
this was like ~16hrs of active CC
I believe in you
fml
are you targeting them?
wdym
when i wanted to go for cauldron upgrades, i shoved 4 people into a single cauldron and leveled that up, then moved on to the next color
i only have ivory on kazam
already have all yellow bubs
other cauldrons are normal. only need the last bubble on all of em
11 on all except for thread which is 9 :/
do you have the cauldrons stuffed with characters so their liquid generation is multiplied?
okay. may the odds not spit in your eye longer than you can tolerate.
lets hope so -_-
Maybe by world 11
Does mob respawn messes you up on kattlecuck?
trying to do it on vman and its really tough
the year is 2053. world 32 was released in idleon. still rolling for doot.
this third kattlecruck wing does not want to drop
it's really tough on vman. practice keeping your attacks on cooldown and only attacking the boss when you have tons of space between both sides of moles and the boss, and use your aoe map-clear at the last possible second.
Neither does my first wing 

sadge
Almost at 200 attempts too
Any idea on minimum dmg to attempt it?
how many keys is that? i think i'm up to 5k
14k keys with no wing is that good shit I play this game for 🤡
lul
i did it with 60 billion. after you can one shot the moles with an autoattack you're just increasing your speed.
ty
I've been trashin obols for awhile now
Trash now
Can't wait to take a pic for the achievements channel with 10 scarves and no wings
Already halfway there
Yeah I've already crafted all my gear. Just in the trophy waiting room now
Is there a chart for end game gear?
anyone got that spreadsheet with money multipliers?
!alchemy
1h on DK
active??
yeah, 😮
so whats good with blood berserker with nightmare kattlekruk
how you supposed to kill the spawns
just hit them '.' lava reduced the cooldown of his skills to make battle easier, pretty 10/10 from his part
his active gameplay is pretty decent now
if you cant kill him quick enough just focus on moles until you got the flame burst skill
kill boss before adds come close
I just quick sold my Magma Mauler right after crafting it 😢 is there a way to get it back or am I going to have to grind it again?
time machine
anny 16x droprate bros
close enough
Nice
Might even be able to do 15x on bubo for another money breakpoint too which will be nice
salts is a gate yes
Probably need a bit more plunder though even with the trophy
slap damage coming in big, coming for you NM kattle 👀
I can prolly do it now, just need to 245 the punch books
might as well get the extra damage while I wait
I just print the mats on my BM and bargain tag it
im doing that shit last
I think from what people said you can comfortably lazy it at about 200B on vman due to how the punching damage works
Yeah thats plenty of damage to auto it
Could maybe even do a little less assuming fully maxed all fist talents
3 books for me to max the punches so I'm guessing I'll be running this not tomorrow, but the day after
1.5 days for me to get that damn recipe 😄
I should probably get around to crafting his gloves at some point
But I really cba to use ES for more hampters when theres DK farming to be done
And I dont think DK will do particularly well on moles
yeah he's not great there
maxed giant boomerang puts in a lot of work
but the 3 platforms really hurts you
I do have level 294 on both boomerang talents so maybe I could try it
probably should have sorted this out before today, but better late than never right~?
I need to remember to start doing minigames again so I can maybe one day get the achievements
But I just forget to do it every single day
My hopes were that the vman talent would lower uwu's cooldown
I mean even with no cd at all he would still be bad
BM is my favourite class thematically so to see him done so dirty hurts
He doesnt really offer any benefits while active farming
The egg thing is pretty slow
soon
Whats your kph?
900k ish
That should be more than enough
it was leaving like 4k ish ore in it at the end
Is your talent at least to 100?
yeah
Weird
this is my gains
so idk
my capacity seems to be around 20k
maybe that is correct
around 5k per claim
You might be right. Maybe I was remembering for candies
2min claims would require more kph
yeah ill try like 10 minutes maybe
Was it actually 30 or is that a guess? Because if it really was a full 30 then I'm afraid I've got some bad news
ok 10 minutes worked way better
Hampter grind is nice and steady but 200 per material bag is.....
I just hit W5, would it be smart to sit 9/10 chars in divinity to get it up to a certain lvl? 

Have 1 char push W5
rest in divinity, get those gods asap
Any certain divinity lvl specifically ?
Been grinding the 500 for vman fists the last couple days, bags are coming after =3
or god*
Unlock arctis to regain lab benefits
I got the fists over the weekend, working on getting everyone their weapons, then bags come after. Although I am debating doing bags first for anvil
gotcha, thanks guys appreciate it
DK or ES on Wurms for keys? I feel since my ES cant do high portal DK may do better?
Dk requires some decent talent investment but yes a good DK currently gets the most keys per hour of any class
Probs DK especially if your statue/orb talents are a high level
I have max orb and can keep two knights up at a time
why goat god chars getting 0 gains
They get gains it just doesn't show up on that screen for some reason
GUYS. IT HAPPENED.
I have been on 8100 nugget since the week that gaming released!
when's a good time to stop leveling my lab my lab levels are 44-45 and the mages are 59-63
It only took how many months!?
Now its my turn for a nugget 
You want everyone at 75 for full chip slots at some point

What are your PONG scores?
Eventually you'll need 75 on everyone for chips but if you don't have many chips yet then its not that big of a deal so you can level later if you want
I think I have like 18k on pong or something
Big skill issue
Gonna be done zow-ing w2 tonight 
ohhhhh ok tnx!