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What do you think vman is going to give you
hes 150 now and im very close to blue skulls on w2 and 3
w1 is done
no idea
few extra talents that werent there before?
The main benefits of vman are cooking and critters and worship. None of those bonuses are going to be huge if you havenโt pushed those 3 things
ive pushed cooking
I wish to have that carry lmao
critters im lacking in general anyway
worship not the greatest but not bad either
for early w5
if it boosts those im hella keen haha
Vman is an account multiplier, so if you're not that far it won't do that much tbh
It's vman, so It helps. I don't even have rucksack prayer, I just put 100 points into anvil capacity for convenience
Like seriously. Just think of doot as an added bonus rather than a reason to skip things and do the normal early w5 process that everyone goes through. Thereโs absolutely nothing to gain from the mindset that having doot means you donโt have to do any div or lab or cooking or anything like that
check my ie and give me some direction then maybe if not v man what would you strive towards
ive been doing div and lab lots of it
basically spent the last whole month in lab on 80% of my characters
and if not in lab then on cooking
have the div/lab link so its been beneficial
true that, weekly reset is halfway there aswell should/might be done with w5 by then so its not too bad
that's also correct i'll give it a look but so far i would swap exp bubble to hammer hammer on all your characters
for 2x anvil production on everyone
get your construction board towards something like this, focusing on your Divine Knight and give him Call me Bob bubble
do you mean the companion that activates all bubbles?
That's not possible, right?
anyone know if it is possible delete mobile account or youtube link on steam account ? The problem i am having is i cannot log in to my youtube account on mobile so no dailies during vacation 
prob not that's insane
yeah the sheepie bonus yup
I don't even think people have reached lvl 600 with bubo/dk so yeah
okay just didn't show up as mine does prob not up 2 date
oh right
let me check the date for it one sec
it should be accurate as its updated till up till 13 mins ago
weird
il go equip the sheep to see if it changes anything
yeah it didnt
thats weird
even on my screen its not showing more than 2
is there any surefire way to check if that bonus is actually been given?
eg unequip the hammer bubble and still get 3 hammers on someone thats not range class?
oh it defs is working
ive got 3 hammers on my bb without that bubble active
if you have it everything should be good ๐
i would produce atleast 1x thread on all characters for exp.
ditch Sigils those are "late late" game keep pushing bubbles and couldron upgrades.
pushing FMJ + Shaquracy and big skilling bubbles should be focus imo atm.
construction seems fine try moving towards a meta board and focus on %exp cogs.
Cooking focus getting all meals to lvl 11 and upgrade upgrade diamond cheff (bubble with 90% discount every day)
How do you properly funnel resources to your first sailing boat to rush, it just seems like it gets exponentially more expensive to upgrade and since im not upgrading my other boats as much its gonna take longer than taking my time
legend shot man
get all boats to lvl 200ish before funneling imo
overaccurate crit
spam books atm for this bonus:
yeah been tryna go for that aswell
and the first alchemy book bonus achievemnt too
but it seems kinda like a waste of water
and 1 last thing, you've got a lot of characters without boss keys unlocked for W2 and W3 that would also be good to do for W3 sharfs BIS for your current progress
true that
im just lazy when it comes to the bosses
will get around to it eventually
yeah i mean, you can be that, but you're missing out on 20 keys every day kinda
yeah true true
priority the w3 quest ones then?
i think the offputting part was the giant kill part
everytime i was at neptunes my rate was like 1 - 26k or something
yeah, you can get 1-3 characters per week without 2 much effort
once it resets il go hit it
just go on weekly reset , excatly
one more thing, say i'm on my es active do i want first or second link to bear, then id assume hare or omni ๐ค
oh and cody, remember this 1
thats the printer one yeah
I use the "actual link" for rabbit
Then I use bear when Im out of lab then can switch to goat or omni when I'm in
i hit that all daily at minimum
ok sweet as
i do need to redo all my samples at some point
only done the ores on the melee chars so far and fish
rest are all over the show
It's a pain but optimizing samples are the main way to optimize your account
Everything builds off of samples and atom production later in the game
What are your samples atm?
il wait till i hit max cap on the stacks
think im doing lustre ore some fish for refinery
bloaches for bubbles and something else
flies ram wool
furled flags
tp logs
Actualy could you link your ie? Unless you've already done it
bean stuff
yeah its up futher but
its mostly just the rates on some of them
they're still really low when they could be x10 more
now ive got scaled efficieny from div and stuff
ahvent updated them since unlocking that
Ah
hell ive barely done any w123 skilling mostly just 4 and 5
just learnt that card drop rate can be snapshotted - is crystal mob spawn chance the same or can it be changed on the fly? as in can i snapshot card drop rate then switch to a crystal mob spawn set on the same map
weird
im dropping sandsharks to unlock a new vial and nothings working
no writing showing up saying rolls
out of attempts
or doesnt have a vial
tried to cloudsave didnt fix it either
wow
its already unlocked im a pleb
Hi! Can anyone show me their spice setup with converter/alch/burgers?
Anyone wanna hop on a call and chat about this and that and idleon?
How many days have you guys had to wait for a plant to reach lv4? I've waited for almost a week on my cactus and bonsai...
"plants can evolve up to 4 times"
And your logbook doesnt show you got them?
no, i've checked what they look like on the wiki and had 3 bonsais and one cactus on lvl3 for almost a week now
Well i mean, you can look in your logbook easily and see if you have 3/4 bonsais
And otherwise I guess you're just hella unlucky, cuz 4 isnt that rare to get
This is what i was thinking ๐
Takes about 8 hours i think for me to have a board full of lvl 4 plants
my growth cycle is 7 hrs and evolve chance is 14 %... some bs i'm telling you ๐
Iโd also swear the first time evolving a plant just has lower chance
you need to save up for spade man and then youll start excelling
spade then get squirrel then conch
conch helps the mutations heaps
Spade is also just rng on how much he actually helps, mines not changed in weeks hes being stingy
I feel that in my soul. Feel like it hasn't budged in a month.
Probably because it hasn't haha
For Vman, 1M are in the Mman or share between all ?? Because I have 1 M in all in the deathnote but isn't work
@lost topaz done o/ -vman vial journey has ended. Now i dont know what to do with his prints D:
I just did that this morning too, and I was wondering the same thing!
kkkkkk i wish we could reach the zap map or the other 2 vials
What's the max book level currently?
Zap, Citringe and Tremor wurms right?
That's a scarier VMan than I rock lol
what is your portal count? i got to 60
Oh nice, 58 is the best I've squeaked out.
pretty close then. I was thinking about maybe rushing to chizoar and then 100% focusing on either w4 or w5. Maybe it could work kkkkkkk
Maaaaaaaybe. I never make it very far in W5 lol
same lol
Assuming 245, my cap is 220 without the elderlitch artifact
At least it's quick burning Kattle keys on NM.
whats your guys tactic for crafting a big amount off stuff
like the blue mining food, or peanuts?
it takes like forever
Go into my mouse settings and make it hold the click down lol
What PO box do you all think are good on Voidwalker? I've maxed Civil War, Deaths Storage Unit, and Non Predatory Loot Box so I'm trying to decide what I want to max next. I assume the food one is a good next target?
There are people with incredibly high levels of snail, right?
What gem shop items are essential for W5 shop?
have you gotten the dr one.... i dont remeber the name of it?
I'd be really curious to see someone's high level snail and see how they are pushing it
i just checked and non pred are the one im thinking of
The one that also gives crystal mob chance? Yeah thats the non predatory one I have
i would do either health or food
Food is a good option
Could also consider the skilling boxes
I have level 9, not sure I'd consider it high level?
For that kind of level I assume not legit.
My guess is save scumming
^
I think the penalty for losing your snail is too severe though
so it's a weird one
I assume health would only be for the mob respawn? Cuz it doesnt seem like survivability is an issue anymore
like... if you're at level 15, legit, that's 45 days + all the encourage you've done
Increase the chance and make it so you only lose 1 or 2 tiers
Mana box?
primarly yes, but max health is also good for some small dmg boost and mining gains
Reduced skill cooldown is very usefull
snail suck
actually yes, max mana first for the cooldown rate
are you going to encourage or risk it?
ive already encouraged it around 5 times
Alright I can go for mana next. Ill prob do food then after that
idk, gonna wait , i aint achieving anything by risking
the bits increase is meaningless
2x bit increase is meaningless?
i think i would have to reach lvl 20 to get the next superbits
for me yes
Where do u farm dice obols again
too expensive
Idk how you guys even have snail tbh. Ive been doing gaming for a while and I only just recently reached the green bits
ok this is not real i swear that the neckless of the boss is not like it says, is it just me feeling it?
I'm currently pulling 34-35 red... I'm at level 11, if I went to level 15, I'd be getting 16x that much, plus all the boosts from breaking through fertilizer boosts... I feel like I'd be easily touching the next super bits level
each 3 or 4 ticks of sprouts is a full 2x more
does anyone know if the last storage chests are obtainable? or not possible?
that would be good indeed. Its good to risk it then. I just dont have anything else to buy realisticaly, most of my things are already costing over 200k red to upgrade, and i cant see myself saving 300M red just to get that evo =/
Those of you who have snail, how long did it take you to get there after reaching green bits to begin with?
I bet you'd hit it with 3 more snail levels
No clue Gynwaith
hmm maybe 5, it takes a while to save 300k
Refine your question then
They don't exist yet
:/
have you done all of the cosmic chests?
Now that I have passive cards for skills, which cards should I use to complete de setup?
With the cosmic chests from the gemshop, you should easily have enough space
ohh cosmic chests i want those
ye got all of the store
% stats usually
Once I unlock the goat divinity, should I move all my chars to goat + lab?
all?
food boosts + all stats
wow 10 cosmic. holy shit
do you need more space?
ye
what do u do with that space?
Like, what are yous toring?
i dont have a single cosmic and i have this spare slot
The heart box in events is good 20% food effect, anhe crab cake from w2 to reduce consume is good. Could also toss a nightmare chiz for the all stat
I'm expecting a hoard of keychains and old equipment
tbh keychains take a lot of space
and im holding a bunch of useless stuff
why would u hold keychains tho kkkkkkk
Like this?
you don't need more than 10 or so extra keychains
you are looking at what, 90 extra keychains?
u are a true hoarder i salute u kkkkkkkk
bc idk which one i should aim fore, i aim for Mob respawn, AFK gain and Stats
yep only those are good, everything else is bad imo (if u are late in the game)
I bet if you showed us your keychains
HFS..... what
80 of the 90 you are hoarding are definitely not needed
Good trade material
No kidding
neat... good trade material for literlaly w/e
thats some crazy luck lul
but still, f that
Depends what you're trying to achieve, but probably not all your characters. I think most people do like 6 characters in lab with goat so you also get divinity gains. But then like 4 characters out of lab still farming stuff. Obviously feel free to adjust for however you wanna play, but my understanding is thats the typical strategy. I then use the 30% afk gains god on the players not in lab personally
trading in like what, a year maybe?
who knows, maybe at w6 release
Doot means you don't need to put anyone in lab
Who knows when there will be a pet worth trading for that
dootless need to play a different game still, so yeah, 5 lab rats
Sweet, thanks, so nobody on the divinity altar but in the lab + goat or doing other stuff
5 lab? but u need 6 for all good bonuses
1 of the lab rats is hooked to purmeep
true purmep is nice
And if everyone has purmeep.... it's even nicer, it changes the game big time
i would move all to lab but 1 just to farm lvl 40 lab or 50 so u can do 6 man lab.
not stackable :[
Thats how I do it yeah. People are saying its different with doot pet which im not familiar with, but if you dont have that then dont worry about it. But if you have characters in lab then i would put them on goat god so you can progress both
But you can have everyone connected to purmep with doot, (not the x2 bonus) but the lab connection
Now I just need a free slug
No doot or doot is the same for lab until u reach a specific point tuhere
Honestly, you don't want to know more about Doot, it will just upset/anger you
So purmep bonus would stack? o.o
hmm i see
All I know is its from the new pet stuff thats more pay to win, but I have no intention of paying so I've never bothered to read into it more
yes, pay 2 win is an understatement ๐
doot doesnt matter, if u still dont know how to play the game doot does nothing XD
disagree! You can completely foregoe a lot of complex mechancis that others deal with -- link swapping for big samples, and then sample x3x3...
doot doesnt level anything for u, doesnt build your characters, doesnt teach u how to level alchemy/stamps, how to farm materials properly, doesnt help u in sailing properly and setting boats, doesnt do anything lol
it does h elp you in sailing though
dont need to do that lol, ive played without goat god/harieph until a week before i got doot, never bothered me
and it helps level chars too
if u dont know how to setup characters talents, which to book, how to sample properly, how to abuse game mechanics, doot doesnt do anything
slug if op, free levels!
the bit about having doot is that the people who powered it via money get slug and the others too though
so... doot is more about all the pets
anyway, I don't want to talk about it
dont care, i only see game mechanics
it's upsetting and really something I want to ignore for now
not a kid to cry over something costing money or not
no one is crying, but you can have pride in something
Money wings for drop rate, money wing for afk gains, money hats for afk gains, money wings for insane dmg boost, money for event items, money for lab boost when u get to w4
Those are so much more minor
its been there all the time, i dont care.
and, dare I say it, affordable
i only care about the game
what does the voraci plant do? i used one and nothing happened? thought it's like a cactus with no range limit?
it sprouts new plants, but its weird sometimes
ohh i was 9/9 when i used it maybe that's why nothing happened
whats the best stamps for active es aside from the one that uses the w5 worship soul?
wisdom stamp?
ye aside form that
there arent good dmg stamps D:
u kinda just lvl all of them to your current material range/gold and thats it
BIG nug! sweeet
Praise to nuggs
max!
did you max the pingy too or thatthe next one you gonna work on ?
i dont know if im going to max the pengy, its the last one im missing but the dmg increase is so horrible that idk
liquid is usefull at least
just do it so slat lick is done with, look better with every entry maxed
hm u are not wrong tho, gonna do it
Hi guys, im soft locked atm because im really struggling to get the blue souls, does anyone have any tips to make it go faster
idk where u are at but if u can get this unlocked . It helps for w3 battle
king of food trophy helps u get more food, using the soul food also helps, vman talent
the crabby vial help too although lower value than that one
fellas, what ratio do you all wait for when trading in materials (sailing)
what do you mean?
For exmaple, do you only trade sailing materials for gold when it's >10x? e.g. 10k mushrooms for 100k gold
if i'm going for gold trade now i only save up the furthest island i've unlocked and amass all i can before it shows back up. there is a chart that predicts what the next trade item will be for like a year in advance somewhere
just keep piling up that resource so when it comes through you can get tons of gold
early sailing though it's kinda "do how you wish, just make sure you're making gains"
Ah ok. I have the last island unlocked, it's just my ships are in various states of upgrades
So it's a balance for me between getting them quick enough to do 2h runs of the last island & getting gold to keep upgrading
I assume prio's to get them all to 50m speed first yeah?
Siege breaker or beast Master, who should I push first in levels?
does temptatious emotions work for construction?
Get Boulder roller to 25-30. Get party starter to 10. Get purple octopus one to lvl 1. Easy lvl 50
Do anyone got the Google docs again what shows skill bar n stuff.
Is this fine XP rates for my lvl in w5? I get better necklace what should improve a bit aswell once I reach lvl 80
Pretty low lvl for world 5 but I suppose youโll lvl up pretty quickly with that xp per hour.
Question is will this character being here provide your account with the most progress needed
Could be better to lvl at floms for the chance at some golden twine aswell to make troll gear. All depends on your goals
I leave him afk there quite a bit. I think it's worth the most, it's by far the most xp/h I can get there
Idk what mobs floms are
Last w4 for the keys?
Before keys
Okay
The jellyfish things
Do you have to have the normal artifact to get the ancient ones?
yes
Whens trading companions come out? Cant be worse than the fact that doot exists at all
question i'm too lazy to test my self: how substantial is the heal from the moles on the boss on NM?
60-100 trillion
6-10% got it
Nightmare anyway. Cant be bothered with the previous difficulties
workin my way through all 10 characters on nm, getting to my neglected characters ....
Everyones got aoe of some kind besides voidwalker
Well, enough to ignore the moles for the most part
Beastmaster was pretty bad, but i forgot all about him doing voidwalker
BM isn't too bad if you use the manual skill to clear mobs
Probably asked many times, but are companien effects always active, or do I have to have the specific companion as follower?
I realise you asked "a or b" and I answered "yes"
So: always active

Thanks
You can see how some pets are absolutely busted ๐
being able to trade something that costs $500 surely wont have any issue
Rift Slug feels like the most ridiculous
Nah doot and sheepie are both better
Rift slug doesnt offer any qol as it doesnt change how you do things
Divinities... yyyyeeeeeah but I can think of a few hax for +25 talent levels
Oh yeah sheepie is insane
Has the community come up with $ price for these xd
ohhhhhhhhh holy fak
30% more afk time
that's ridiculous
all the minor bonuses
both that one and the cooking speed one you gotta swap for for ladles
Will be interesting to see if lava can counter "spam account to get item, trade, then chargeback" that games with a trading system run into
Doesn't every game/service just ban you and/or your payment method if you chargeback
doesn't mean the item traded gets removed
Yup, make new account, cash until doot, trade to another account, charge back
Yeah but it makes it really annoying for one person to do over and over again
New account banned, old account (or random target) has the strongest buff in the game
You also have to compete with people selling services then. Doot for $50
Hmm it's a problem because of steam and the payment being tied to steam
If you could only buy green gems with direct credit card purchase
If you ban the person who receives the doot too, you'll have bad actors offering to gift their "spare" doot to someone then charging back, getting them banned
Then it would be reasonably effective if you just ban the cards
You'd have to get new card every time
But with steam you can use the same card with every new steam account
Only have to do it once to get the strongest buff in the game
!kit
bruh
Whats the kit command want to show my buddy lol
bruh just got half a scarf in one kill ayo
Worry not, the other half is still equipped on that character
I'd pay 50$ for a pet that lets me change prayers anywhere xd
best place to farm obol frags on dk?
w2 bosses i think
Efaunt...I think
pick that 1/5 of all prayers without curse perk easy class exp without 10hr rule 
Except that the no prayer thing hard griefs all of your samples and removes your ability to spawn giants
good clue but it's not listed at least
King Doot has it though
Thanks
I don't spawn giants anyway:(( would've posted the 1 in 133k but am kinda away
All w2 bosses plus mutates mush and alush boss
Shame... sorry
I'm not gonna get into a discussion on the no prayer things as its been had time and again but its a massive nerf in character power in nearly every imaginable scenario in exchange for some QoL
Do with that info what you will
stahp giving him ideas :p
how much dmg is needed to kill the nightmare w5 boss on vman?
10b if you have a few hours, 50b is the suggested sheet damage
60-70b to feel comfy-ish, with less its gonna be a struggle
200b to lazy it
But in theory as long as you can one shot moles you can do it at any damage value
As long as you have a few hours/days to spend on it lol
where should i stand ? can it be done on auto?
Auto would be the 200b+ damage requirement
preferably in the middle of the skull to thin both sides from moles
I'm gonna 245 the punch talents before even trying it to maximise damage between mole waves
If you have less damage you have to kill moles until your void radius comes up and then hit the boss after you wipe the screen
if u aoe that is
If you have 25b damage, that's also fine, takes around 30 minutes.... With perfect mole management
hmmm okay ill give it a try
How much you got?
40b
with 40b it took me like 15 min?
was doable, just make sure you got some entertaiment on the side haha
ye u should be fine with 40b
With all punch talents somewhere at level 200, maybe 220, and the attack talents sufficiently leveled.... Doable
do u just assign all boats to one island for eldritch? I'm getting there soon (by weekend maybe)
;_;
Does anyone have a good tip for pirate flag rift?
Iโm not really getting rolling until itโs about to expire
they don't need to be within the 2 hr for you to run an island
plant ur sb with 105+ coins talent there and just wait until it lands, if rift number doesnt go up anymore just wait until your flag gets the required #, it sometimes freezes on the same number
it helps for sure but it's not the end of the world
Ok thanks I have eclipse and coin is at 110 so I should probably book it
Dmg seems fine for main mobs but could be better for the plunder kid
oneshotting stuff defo helps ya
I always stall at a rift and then once I beat it getting the rest to the next unlock is easy
I'm dooming in those 5m afk ones rn :< getting the itch to park more than one character
at like ~150-200k the upgrade prices start to sting tho :/
Iโve parked more than 1 char for the afk ones
just kinda how it goes my guy. it took me a month & 1/2 for normal eldritch on like 2-4 hour boats.
If itโs gonna get an unlock and theyโre working on less productive goals why not
Iโd split half and half on fury island
yh mine are all busy grinding w5, need to get dat magma set for everyone (mostly) :<
Any boat taking over 8hr might as well send to an earlier island for upgrades and ancients
Yaaaayyyy! I can't equip this!
Itโs how I set up right now. I had all boats on it for a week and then switched and its been much better
I think ur first boat is pretty close to a big speed jump
The problem with splitting your boats is wasting chests from later islands
since the earlier ones will fill up your chest pile and then the ones from crystal island will "convert" once it's filled.
Yeah if ur doing that u donโt want 7 on 2 hrs while the other 7 are 3-8 hr
What sort of Construction rates are people at?
I think 180k on non warrior. 280 when dk checks something like that
I only recently (within the last like month) started pushing construction correctly lol
that's on my DK, 23ish million on non-dk no salts
39.2m
Yeah I'm currently starting to push my construction ๐ At 3m so far but not sure what's best to focus on
Obals obs
But besides from that, is it just char lvl?
as in skill lvl
yeah
Bubble
focus on leveling BOB bubble, and stick it on your DK's and focus cogs that give EXP
Big bubble, XP cogs, and NBLB atom upgrade
Just Carpenter mainly? right?
I canโt remember which one is which
for xp
But the active id tie into player lvl
Carpenter is the reason you get so much speed tho
The build rate per lvl is what I was referring to
once u can atom this... oh lord
which also gets boosted by the warrior bubbles,
true pain is atoming this first when you want to dump into bob lol
How many atoms is that
1.43k per level since like level... 160 or something?
only 488K ez
Wait, did u guys know that we have 3 loot filter tab? ',' just found out about the third
Itโs new
patch note, read them
oh thanks jesus, thought i had missed that for all this time
oldish id say, was added with vman
32 new filter slots, didint count
should be 4 tabs total sicne he added 3
omg, i'm like 25 mins into my bm slowboating the shit out of NM cattle
down to like 30% now
glad i upgraded his bow to bone before i started
So it actually seems more efficient to fight nightmare kattle for drops, right? Am I just having a slow moment!
Depends how you value key farming vs boss farming
Iโm just talking drop rate to ticket consumption
Which drop were u looking at
Iโd only my vman could kill him on nightmare!
Nightmare is always best yeah
The scarf
It has the best chance at a necklace per key
Technically chaotic is better for obols
Oh gotcha
But youll get more obols than you know what to do with farming multiple wings and necks
I did like 20 chaotic runs and got jack, normal teefs only:( rip keys
So not worth trying for
I'm already trashing obols and I'm not even halfway done with wings and scarves
I lucked out and got my wings on the first nightmare kill, but still need the scarf
For the strung tooth? Isnโt regular best odds?
100k tickets for regular vs. 175k nightmare
Also depends how much you wanna click
dont think it works like that, I'd gotten a cavity tooth if it did xD
Base obviously ignoring practicality
got this at 12.6m kills
I hate you
Iโm so jealousโฆ Iโm almost at 700m and still donโt have it
700m wot
Yeah I agree Iโd rather farm keys in my sleep than boss in my pain of clicking
Nice to see someone worse off than me haha, 500m here
you're taking MK into account
it DOESN'T
Oh true, Iโm just looking at the death note counts
I have 4k royal ashes, which have a 1k higher drop rate than the recipe.
The average player will drop 4 of them by then
I swear my 2nd es short afk accidental farms have been almost as good for the super rare drops as all my active time
you're not the average player, you're Sakori. put some RESPEK on your name ๐ค
Maybe did you select hard mode at account creation?
Expert mode
How many royal ashes? That's your comparison point cause both don't scale with MK
800ish, but Iโve used some for the stamp
IE won't load at work so I can't even check if I got one while at work 
The damage disparity x.x what am I doing wrong
I ran the numbers for the scarf based on drop rate and chaotic seems like the most efficient, with an average of 22,730 keys required for 1 scarf without accounting for DR.
Regular is 100,000 and nightmare is 175000 keys.
10x more damage than me geez
not playing for a long enough time
Been playing for like a year xD
Alchemy, cooking, doot
you are weaker than level 1 unequipped char from endgame for example
500 fuckin hampters for molten kjnuckle
Did slacking on alchemy really put me that far behind
yes
yes
yes
how many green stacks are considered somewhat decent
you want everything green stacked
farm on your ES they come quick
:)
nblb is a smoothener and catchup, not the backbone 
as many chest slots as you have ๐
getting 4 star slug card then i willl try
you can just stack for example oak log if you want to push damage
Actually based on my achievements been playing over a year and half xD
@tacit tulip 
bruhh
why those jars not in stamps?
Just leaving work I'll sulk at you later
realistically you are roughly like early w4 (probably closer to w3) considering w5 buffs
for other bonuses alchemy etc.
I really neglected samples and alchemy
why is my bubo gaining more divinity xp and points than everyone else?
skill xp cape?
nope
its not a specialised skill tho?
it counts as one
all skills are specialized skills
wtf
even if its not your classes "specialized skill"
i am pretty sure that doesnt make any diffrence to div
only global skills dont count, so sailing, gaming etc.
oh yeah your right just checked
holy shit, easiyl 40 mins ... but my bm finally killed nm KK
my es kills in like ... 15 seconds

granted my es has 10x the damage of my bm
at 400b instead of 40b
vman is my next contender
can you see Steam exclusive achievements from IOS or apple doesn't approve it?
idk if you can see them but you cant get them anyway
I thought that was based on the base class?
Like all Archer classes were good for catching, and all Mages were good at lab.
i mean some things are better than others because of the skill specific buffs
but generic "specialized skill xp" is for all skills
So would Tempestuous Emotions on my DK increase Exp for skills like Smithing? And will Brute Efficency affect any non Warrior skills? ๐
yes
Is there a code snippet somewhere, that I can look at?
Smithing is an archer skill so no the DK talent wont affect it
go to skills and look at your xp multiplier for smithing, then put 10 or whatever points in either skill and look again?
Specialized skills are class specific. Any skill that a warrior specializes in are increased by the warrior talent and then the same is true for archer skills and mage skills
It didn't change, but then what did you mean by this?
home from work, no recipe 
The grind for this can be silly
yeah...
550m deathnote kills before I got mine
you get an average of 1 recipe drop every 1k royal ashes
I've spent at least 500 on stamps...
on the plus side my luk stamp looks sick
mainly because i am in no need for additional tab 4 talent points really. maybe when i have every talent at 245+, but for now it is unnecessary for me.
Yeah I'm saving mine for when I reach a point with stamps that I can afford to use gilded upgrades on that one to squeeze more levels out of it
Right now theres just more important stamps to work on though
by the time that comes atoming the bubble will be trivial anyway
good luck, that was NOT fun
fair
The stamp is pretty useless all things considered
I guess it kinda helps reduce the damge whenever max level is increased, but then you'd just do the bubble more anyway
๐ป sad violin noises
My bubbles are on nblb and I still havent really had much difficulty with talents
I really want to atom that but at the same time I need to sample soon so sampling bubbles are getting in the way
When will trader swap resource im on the rare resource
And even after my sample theres always bob to consider
Hw long till it become normal resource
actually no, 245 the punching books first
it changes every 6 hours I think
there's a calculator somewhere which shows you what you'll get when
I need the same resourcw but not the rare one now its on diamond instead crystal
Oh everyone is the same?
kinda, it's based on your islands unlocked
but the rotation is the same if you have the same islands
I should prolly use toolbox more
yup, especially since IE looks like it will be dying unless sludger makes a comeback
He's definitely updated something recently, IE accounts for some pets now
yeh companions
like it knows I have sheepie
but he also had removed blacklist on leaderboard and now fully removed leaderboards ๐คท
didnt sludger said he would mantain IE and update it but just would not include the pets and the leaderboards will go poof
yeah but he's added pets now, so unsure exactly what the plan is
oh idk about that
yeah sludger siad he would do that cause there is no point on mantianing the leaderboards with doot and the other companions
the removal of the leaderboards was because he didnt wanted to put ppl spending habits on display
Correct choice, honestly
Eh
like the leaderboards were always to some degree p2w, but pets made it much worse
plus he did acknowledge the leaderboards were packed tight with cheatter accounts so again no point in having them
thats why he had a blacklist of those people pretty quickly?
i still saw most of the leaderboards inundated with cheatted accounts never saw those dissapear or anything
and when the companions came out and the "mass" exodus began a lot of end gamers cheatted their accounts just for fun as a final fuck off i think so ehhh whats the point in keeping the leaderboards now
hmm i guess for that use... never really crossed my mind to do that to be honest
If leaderboards were still here they would be a joke compared to what they were before so removing them is pretty whatever
is this even possible with this comp
I did that a bunch, checking out higher people
yes
Just ask people for their IE links then
Public profiles still exist
And can be shared
possible and very much so, just need to push forward and do as many restarts as you need untill you get the right one also activate auto abilities
bruh i cant get the timing right on this block, it sends 2 axes i block then a 3rd
yeah it's just a pain to time on that one, keep at it. Once you've got the time pause cycle going it's GG
well i guess you will need to think of the build by yourself xDD
do i just full auto right after i time first block?
or do the pause time coffee for a lil bit before i full auto
but once it's fully going you're fine
okay ive tried maybe 15 times wasnt sure if possible but if i can hit it ill keep trying
I did my 5 man prior to auto pets, you can definitely do it
i think i got it 
If this one fails too, consider putting the second refiller infront of your defender
If you get the first block it doesn't matter too much if t he stick dies, as one refill can sustain once you get going
yeah i think this is the run im finally stacking big time
Yo, i gotta kill Nightmare kattlekruck on my Vman for the achievement because he's my 7th....im screwed right?
gonna take a hot minute but hey lol
yeah i did that one with thrasher before auto pets... DO NOT RECOMEND xDD
aim for about 50b damage, it can be done with less, but obviously take longer
no you are not, youjust need to polish your vman more
20b dmg will take like 20-40mins or something
Think people recommend 50-80b for easy
my vman is like 2B damage at max...
Yep, time to get to work ๐
Vman just sucks, yo.
245 all the books that benefit your damage, gear him up, get chips etc
Gotta lvl purple bubbles
you'll make surprising damage gains pretty fast
Candy some eclipse skulls if you can
gets less impact from alchemy cause nothing he gets nothing about double small bubbles, has less multiplier bonuses on talents, and the best multi he has for dmg comes from leveling up all skills
only gear he doesnt have is the magma knuckle
don't let the knuckle stop you
still nothing on the edlritch artifact for 245 max
(mines above 40b now that was a couple days ago)
also remember, vman displayed dmg on the status window doesnt show anything about the multi hit bonuses he gets fromt he extra hit talents
it's that time again, join me in this next episode of "will i bother looking at plants again for the next month?"
well it failed, but no reset at least
so if you have a display of 2b you vman real dmg woudlprobably be quite higher than that displayed ammount
i was at lv 12 when i failed mine ๐ฆ
My snail is level 1 
Lol im at the same spot, failed 3x at lvl 8 to level 9. (not reset) I've started to encourage it but there's barely a difference in encouraging
Though I only got it 3 days ago
factor in crits, multihit
megacrit thats true,
im at level 5 and i feel its just not worth to even attempt and have the fail xD
The yolo works again 
Christ you yolo'd top 13? Madman
I yolod to 10 then reset and yolod again to 13
i tried yolo to get 13 , thats where i failed xD
just wait for next companion rotation... "X pet will now remove snail reset chance" 
the best thing about the snail and getting to higher levels is the bit gain
when you get to a certain point spend some time to level up the snail in imports
so when you do inevitably fail you get more mail each day lol
yep lol
Yup, not just snail but overal
higher snail, higher nuts, higher shovel etc
all helps while you get the snail back up
Think if/when my snail resets ima just have kitty on for some weeks while saving my mail and just going for t6's
is kattlekruck gear really better than magma?
if you don't level that stuff up when you have a higher level snail
i feel for vman maybe? but for other? all stat is lost
you simply just won't level it at all when you do get reset
so gaming just doesn't exist
magna better for dmg (except maybe the hat) I jus made it cause I could
but for samples ud still want magma afaik?
yeah the hat gave me more stats on my bowman
i feel that for vman kattlekruck one would be better
probably get an extra set to turninto kattle gear when youw ant to push for more DR and dmg doesnt matter (farming earlier world mobs etc)
id give you some if i could xDD have like 200 in storage xDDD
havent farmed it for a while xD
you only need 3 now so a few hours on either bubo or es should get them
candy
for the sole purpose of upsetting people I have full kattlae on everyone
why not just screenshot toolbox page?
yeah candying em
further evidence I don't use toolbox, didn't know it was all on one page ๐
dont have new scarf on everyone.... needs more work
You can see it all like this:
You can also toggle on the left side to display everyones prayers and stuff like that to quickly check if everything is in order
Has anyone gotten lvl 25 yet?
Ive seen a pic of one
Ya, makes sense
the final task is for nightmare on all 10 chars
Can someone explain how/when these reset?
I've just destroyed it 3 times today, yet sometimes its a bug for weeks ๐คท
https://i.imgur.com/uEov2Q8.png
yeah the bonus criters doesnt work at all
That was my next question, if it even does anything because i didnt notice a difference between none and 1k%
its probably one of those eventualy abandoned ideas lava had at some point
It would actually make samples for bugs be more in line with mining/wood :/
that probably was the idea, since wood and mining have huge samples, fishing has capped min eff on ALL fish so catching is some of the worst samples cause it needs a bit too much and you dont get massive samples
damn , almost ran to portal while TDing ๐ฉ
but they didnt work in w2 and w3 and onwards just remove the nest wiht out you killing it when you enter the map
carefull youwouldnt want to lose your hard earned progress on TD cause god that one is slow as hell
should i use midas on es for hampters
big no
scaling hp = less wormhole kills
never use midas on portal farming
you would need massive dmg to handle them and portal kills would decrease massively
midas only real purpose would be on DK + bosses
just use portal and you will be fine
specialy on boss farming as bosses do not get extra hp
i used midas on es for magma knuckle
you porbably lose more dr on portal kills than what you would gain even with a maxed out midas
i see ty
which leads me to believe you probably just got lucky on the recipe drop
i did
for sure
also, i only get like 120 wormhole kills without midas, 100 with
thought id be printing hampters
it takes time
so i guess this tarde does not work :/?
honestly the best way to farm rare drops is still the all hands on deck method
he have to give me 777 tight>?
you have to get 777 gold bars
not the other item
k thanks i tought i have to give him 777
In your case there you need to have 14'831 of that currency (i believe if my math is mathing, can also do 148k etc)
What's the math for the trade?
I never asked, and before the gold for gold thing I'd just assumed it was RNG. :/
toolbox shows a 2 week schedule
๐ ty
It also shows your current trades when he comes/shows up. that way you can already plan and setup something thats a few days away and then not touch that resource
For the ratio, just do gold bars divided by your resource amount for the average gold per resource. Then do 7.77k or 77.7k or whatever really works the best at your progress state and divide those gold by the amount of resource you just calculated to know roughly know how many resources you will need.
What percentage of the treasure does it take each time? I think there's a lower limit it can take?
When does the exchange amount refresh? Only Gem Shop? What's the point of changing the amount?
It's something like top boat loot amount or quarter your stockpile, whiever is higher
since when did bubbles can be upgraded with a +3 with lary?
since forever
any tips to get the power for this last spice row? other than saying to upgrade the blooming axe or w3 pets ( dont have w3 splice gun yet )
oh i thought its not possible. nice
Tsar, and/or highest combat power pet you have.
purple mushroom under or below would help? or on that board
nice that hit it for me thanks @main badge !!
There's a Genetics tab, for future reference.
Glad that worked. Remember it check if you still need it, whenever you upgrade your other pets.
Boss armor w5 any good for afk or active?
Here's some Breeding setups, to see what you might be able to improve.
#1084967297145385010 message
Pet tab in this sheet, too: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
Or magma just better except for the DR loss
screen freeze 
Is atomic nblb the lithium atom upgrade?
Why does that change ur spice lineup meta
yeah i gotta get this w3 splice gun so i can get those w3 pets seem really good and on the spice chart
Itโs not bad at all with decent dr if u es there
Thermistor. Plus itโs pretty easy to build for the stat boost
wym stat boost?
Better stats than w2 splicer
ive overnighted es on therm 3 days sofar didnt get the drop, got the w4 one lol
oh yeah i gotcha
it seems a huge less prio now that i finished arena and all pet waves
but itll help my spice productions
If u donโt have shinies itโs a good idea
im 2 breeding lvls from shinies
But you mustโve got really unlucky to take that long
huh
True yeah somehow Iโm near the end on w1 and 2 and going through w3 and may even start splicing w4 before Iโm lvl 40
the boss portal is a lot earlier than i expected
i get to be a part of the w6 launch party ๐
im just saying on the map, i thought i had to go through one or two more maps to get there, idk when w6 is
Can u best boss for the crystal
any guesses to what the skills are? i have a feeling spiriting is gonna return if its literally called the spirit valley
you get an IOU item lol
Wonder if w6 will be tailored to the ppl who have an actual battle with normal boss or the ppl who can quick farm nightmare
You got that for Troll too. Don't remember for Chizoar, but probably. You did, checked the wiki. 3 IOUs listed.
i need to fish really bad but im throwing SO hard doing anything but cooking on my bb rn
Why does atomic nblb change spice strategy?
I just hope world 6 has actual idle skills, rather than stuff you have to check every 2 hours like Spices and most of W5 is
cause it can rng hit the later bubbles, making it so you cant even try to level say diamond chef with actual spices
so you just wait for nblb to hit it
always do, new world comes previous worlds become much easier and catchup mechanics start
New worlds generally come with big boosts so it's rarely super hard to reach the boss
Ah thank u. I just got nblb atom recently so I couldnโt figure out the difference yet
ye its a pretty huge upgrade
portals tend to get nerfed at new world release too
the stamp one, power of 10, atom upgrades, and nblb are great to get a start on
after some time has passed xDD
cant wait to see people boosted to w6 asking how to div
https://milkshanky.idleonefficiency.com anyone mind giving my account a check and tips for progressing? im 2 maps from w5 boss map, books im letting stack to 20 for the max level but other than that
how to div will be a new one to add, but the most common is still ppl asking how to alchemy xDDD
Thank you
finish green stack 1st
Any gamers can help with doot and peak gaming?
#party-finder-๐ช
I kind of wish we had a emoji just for saying this.
i got you with P and S if you need
Are there any cards that increase divinity?
biggie hours helps
stamps are okay for where you are currently
Be worth finishing off your anvil points (can't judge, mine are terrible)
Alchemy could use a lot of love in all areas - consider bubo for Tent/CC to get bubbles unlocked and going
Cooking: Ladle out the wrath grapes using the recipe shown, level 11 meals are always worth prioritising until you have them all. That said, you're getting a new spice now right? Might be worth waiting for an easier recipe
Your slab is in a decent place all things considered but there's still a lot of very easy ones you're missing. You've never dropped cooking clogs? How ๐
Really is the usual answer: Print materials to get alchemy bubbles, so your weaker bubbles level using NBLB
Im in key 17 i can meet you in w2 town?
green stack w1-w4 ,get all bubble done w1-w3 boss quest to get daily keys : 1st priority
farm pop obols , crystal chance cards then start dice obol
Just noticed but...do you have no pets at all? I know we hate them, but might as well pick up the weekly free ones
wym for tent / cc?
cooking im ladling the div grapes on cd, just got last spice unlocked just gonna take a lil to actually claim my first for last recipes so gonna wait like a day for it, and yeah never saw cooking clogs lmao i should throw my ES on the map to get 1 atleast, should i be printing mats to green stack or for bubbles? im not sure which bubbles to prio other then focusing on the lowest for NBLB
and i have all pets except the slug and doot
guess it's not working right for linked builds
im going through getting 5 mil kills in w1-3 to get multikill so my vman can get higher score with my ES
A common thing with Bubo is running Tent (cd reduction on kill) with the bubo skills and Cranium cooking) to massively boost your alchemy progress. Makes unlocking all the bubbles, maxing couldrons, and getting water a breeze
i did just get the 25 max level so my max is almost 180 so my tent + cranium can get a bit higher now
yeah i gotta hit the golden artifact before i can get 200
or slug
my salts have been fucked for so so so long but im a couple upgrades from having them fixed and can actually produce good amount of salts with overflow
and get a lot of those crafted slab items
what do people do with sailing after all eldritch?
But do you get the full bonus or the secondary link
underwhelming, but an eldritch is an eldritch is an eldritch
omfg you can reclaim mining certificate from the quest menu for free and sell it for 1 coin
quickly before it's patched
why does it costs this much of particles instead of 43 particles
you get the main link bonus, the secondary might be a little funny with some gods not rly sure
particles are based on higher bubbles = more cost, check #1084911530417606656 for cost sheet
I have it handy, bit that is the cost at 1b resource cap
also cost increases atm with each click because you havnt reached the cap price (which is the 1b)
Anyone have a list or able to please list what the exact purpose is for grinding out each colo?
(What gold food, best for candy, statues and that kinda stuff)
- Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
- Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
- Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
- Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles
- Colo 5 = To be released
Note:
- Gold bread seems to only give ~1% of the displayed value, not really worth it - TheContract
i dont think colo 1 has a purpose, 2 for golden kebabs and candies, 3 for boss keys/slush obols/slush skulls/golden bread, 4 eggs/ladles ye
i don't know who needs to hear this, but check on your shiny pets. i gained 80 days over level 6 for no reason.
you'll need those days eventually lol
IT has a tracker on the dashboard for that tho makes it nice
also trickz there may be more to it than i know
Colo 1 is most gems per ticket
But its not much higher than 2 so usually isnt worth the loss of candy
Also worth mentioning that gold bread is bugged
And gives like 1% of the displayed value
so barely worth it?
So its not really worth farming for assuming you dont need colo 3 for any of the other drops
Hopefully he fixes it one day
Gold cheese used to be the same way but he fixed that a couple patches ago
Well most of the relevant gold foods work correctly at least
Bread is the only one I can think of currently that could be good but isnt because its bugged
As long as my butter bars work, totally need that accuracy 
I know kebabs, peanuts, %stats, sailing, and now gold cheese all work
People would throw hands if sailing didnt work
i got 4 hampters in like 2 hours wtf es
was sailing food bugged at release or was it just busted good
DR + Dmg?
cause it got nerfed at one point if i remember right
The food has been the same as far as I know
Only sailing nerf I can think of was the exploit removal
nah the food def got either nerfed or the description was fixed
it was early on tho
Maybe you're right
it was something like 40k displayed 100%
I was too much of a bot to even know what was going on at that point
actually was prob less
true
i just remember seeing the number and thought it was ridiculously good
It took me a couple weeks to even get my shit together and realize I needed to start using the sailing food
My brain didnt turn on in regards to idleon until maybe a month or so after W5 launch when I finally started to understand just how bad I was
yeah you really took off after that lol
i remember being slightly ahead of you at one point but not by much
now im lagging behind XD
i've been turned into one too 
A nice QoL could be a toggle button next to each alchemy bubble that auto-upgrades if materials are available.
17B, 8.5 DR
That would be an awesome Automation Arm thing
It's finally over!
time to use candy on gmushing 2.6m/hr
That's some weird gear choices
can anyone help me rq with the cattleprod quest ๐
Is it big frog map for drop rate obols? Active farm on DV yeah?
Lol I just couldn't be bothered upgrading on some
Giga frog for pop obols, using es
from 7845% gmush
Do I farm and throw bronze on straight up everybody or upgrade qual at all
Okay es is my main so perfect
to 11301% ๐ nicee
Frogs nearly done ๐ฎ
https://i.imgur.com/5ogFETT.png
i lost 30B dmg somewhere... idk where
all i did was candying gmush.. xD
oh nvm found it
Card set hehe
help @dapper prism
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