lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[somber sparrow]

just to get the chat back on track for a few lines - why does it take so stupidly long to farm 1k pearler shells, sheesh!

[thin rose]

Skill issue

just get 50 DR

problem solved

[opaque sun]

Can always candy them if in a hurry

[somber sparrow]

wish i even had 10

[thin rose]

Or get doot

solves all your issues

[somber sparrow]

not sure if worth XD its just for vial

[thin rose]

it's a good vial tho

[somber sparrow]

im praying hard or something, not gonna spend 😄

[somber sparrow]

tis why im farming for it 😄

[sharp igloo]

I currently have all my guys on pearlers lol. Im just trying to get enough for troll tops for my 9 dudes who have been wearing chizoar for the last year 🤣

[thin rose]

Chizoar gamers

[somber sparrow]

all guys have kattle so im fortunately done with that - just a few tools left that are lustre and the vial needs 1 or 2 more levels

i only ever crafted 1 chiz for the slab other than that i skipped his armor for regular metal armors

[sharp igloo]

What does the pearler vial do again?

[thin rose]

% all stat

[somber sparrow]

+% all stats

[sharp igloo]

Oh nice

[thin rose]

0.5% each lvl I believe

[somber sparrow]

without mastery +1% per level

[thin rose]

^

[somber sparrow]

for me its 1.6% now so its pretty worth

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I should have skipped chiz too, since it doesnt build into anything, but now it seems like boss gear does build into metal gear since you need troll for magma

[north juniper]

So realistically there's no way to full auto pet arena to 200 right?

[somber sparrow]

why?

[thin rose]

because it's boring

[opaque sun]

its pretty much full auto

[somber sparrow]

i mean you should stop with the whale stacks at some time to keep your cpu from melting but apart from that...

[thin rose]

stack whales until you die

[opaque sun]

Like the only manual is the beginning part for a brief moment

[thin rose]

and be proud of it

[north juniper]

Just taking a look at the guide it has specifics for monolith and rattler. Even at 16k-18k per pet with croissant at 20 and full talent for hunter, I can't even get past 50

[somber sparrow]

what would you manual there?

[sharp igloo]

Just have some liquid nitrogen constantly dripping onto your cpu and you should be fine

[somber sparrow]

u dont mono arena 200 unless you have 5 days time and are waiting for whitescreen

[opaque sun]

Like you may want to choose not to use ratter to slow down the initial build up phase

[somber sparrow]

idk, never seen a need for that 😮

[opaque sun]

Once you build up enough badam and other buffs, you full auto

[north juniper]

It recommends sir stache, snelby, glublin, and Nutto for the 4 spot teams. But I can throw my whale in there somewhere if it's better.

[opaque sun]

If you have a semi-strong pet powers, you might want to slow down first as it might rush through too fast

[north juniper]

I have a 15k whale that's looking to much on some krill

[somber sparrow]

oooh you at 4 slots! you dont go arena 200 on 4 slots either XD sorry

[sharp igloo]

I think you want 5 pets before you go for 200

[opaque sun]

But else, its mostly full auto

[north juniper]

Yeah no I get that. Just trying to bust through even 50

[somber sparrow]

id go with rattler looter refiller borger if possible

not sure what kinda traits u have already

[north juniper]

Like how far I've unlocked my pets?

[somber sparrow]

ye - u have the above mentioned?

[north juniper]

W1 to nutto, W2 to snelby, and nothing past that other than sheepie

[somber sparrow]

also please keep in mind that my info might be slightly outdated as ive done arena..... VERY LONG ago

[north juniper]

Hey that's still better than nothing.

At some point I need to do it 💀💀

[somber sparrow]

should give you the 4 traits i mentioned before

[sharp igloo]

Id do sand giant, mammoth, walking stick, nutto probably (you could replace mammoth with another looter if there is one that you have unlocked)

[somber sparrow]

sandy pot

[north juniper]

Only looter is sandy

[sharp igloo]

Ah, then yeah sandy pot

[thin rose]

would merc work in place of rattler

[somber sparrow]

it doesnt matter they do the same thing 😄

[north juniper]

So basically I can do Sand giant/sandy pot/stick/nutto?

[somber sparrow]

not very well, not enough projectiles to make use of refill

[somber sparrow]

aye

[thin rose]

don't think I have a rattler :c

[sharp igloo]

You could replace walking stick with glublin if you have a stronger one

[somber sparrow]

ninja?

[north juniper]

Alright then tomorrow I'll give that a shot. I need to birth a 18k sandy pot and stick 💀

[north juniper]

I do have my trusty 18k glublin

[somber sparrow]

lots of projectiles do the magic to utilize your refiller

[sharp igloo]

Then yeah probably use that instead of walking stick

[somber sparrow]

dont need a stick then

[north juniper]

So basically do what I did but instead of snelby throw sandy pot in there

That I can do 🫡

[somber sparrow]

Ye - if you unlock slot 5 you put whale in there next

thatll really speed up your arena gains

dungeon happy hour btw

[sharp igloo]

The sandy pot will ideally proc heals often enough to keep your nutto alive

[thin rose]

ninja?

[sharp igloo]

Its a bit rng tho

[somber sparrow]

substitute for rattler as it throws lots of projectiles

[thin rose]

don't think ninja is until w3 progression in pets

[placid mural]

Are achievement damage bonus' additive to eachother or multiplied?

[somber sparrow]

i think ninja is snowflake w3

[thin rose]

ye I just got sheeper

[somber sparrow]

no idea honestly, its been SO LONG ago

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I honestly have no idea how all the different forms of damage stack either lol

[north juniper]

Just broke 50 with that sandy pot in there. Thanks peeps ❤️

[sharp igloo]

Ayye! Cheers!

[north juniper]

Thank you thank you! It's still going

[somber sparrow]

go get slot 5 while u at it 😛

[north juniper]

60 and counting

[sharp igloo]

Youll probably get to like 90 lol.

[thin rose]

whats your lineup?

[north juniper]

It's looking that way

[somber sparrow]

rattler looter refiller borgar 😄

[thin rose]

I need potato giant man

[north juniper]

This. Sand giant, sandy pot, glublin, and nutto

[sharp igloo]

First time I used that team instead of just winging it, I got way more waves than I was expecting

[somber sparrow]

seems my info is not out of date yet XD

[north juniper]

I'm assuming for the 5th pet I need to stick whale in there somewhere?

[somber sparrow]

ye, position doesnt matter much but i always put him 2nd

[sharp igloo]

If whale is the 5th where does snelbie/rat come into play?

[somber sparrow]

it doesnt

[sharp igloo]

Really?

[somber sparrow]

NO MONO IN ARENA!

[north juniper]

Is it that bad?

[sharp igloo]

So which spot does whale go in?

[somber sparrow]

okay imagine this

[somber sparrow]

[04:20]Moeker: ye, position doesnt matter much but i always put him 2nd

[sharp igloo]

Oh duh lol, i missed that 😅

[undone steeple]

anyone got that bubbo image for cranium cooking skill order

[somber sparrow]

you shoot about 200 projectiles per second - mono procs every 5 projectiles - what will happen?

[somber sparrow]

lemme get mine

[somber sparrow]

oh nvm then XD

[undone steeple]

thanks

[north juniper]

Sorry lol. Got a folder with all of these now

[north juniper]

Lagfestcentral

[sharp igloo]

I used mono to get to 150, and yes, it was absolute hell lol. Took like 3 hours on my phone. The thing was like 200 degrees

[somber sparrow]

time will just be stopped forever

while attaacks still build up while u waiting of course

[sharp igloo]

Its technically the safer bet though right? Assuming you just leave it on while you go to sleep?

[somber sparrow]

like i said, itll take DAYS

not hours

[north juniper]

It made it to 81 which ill happily take

[somber sparrow]

itll also with a 99% chance whitescreen you before you get to 200

[north juniper]

But the next run will be sand giant, whale, sandy pot, glublin, nutto?

Sweeeeet

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah I wouldnt do that on my phone lol, I meant on PC

[somber sparrow]

same thing

game isnt built to have 5000 attacks on screen at the same time

just trust me on that one, you dont wanna do it

[sharp igloo]

Is that just a software problem, or does it depend on the hardware of your PC?

[somber sparrow]

software

[sharp igloo]

Ah

[somber sparrow]

my computer is a literal monster and im kinda sure it wouldnt handle

[sharp igloo]

Gotchya

[somber sparrow]

also - for 200 you can go 99.9% safe with a defender

[sharp igloo]

I just built a new one myself, and I was gonna say challenge accepted, but if its on the software side, Ill just use a whale lmao

[thin rose]

it is made in stencyl tbf

[somber sparrow]

im at 64g ddr5 and 3080ti and it still got laggy - that was before high performance mode tho

[sour oasis]

Does the % chance for 2x ladle drop PO box mean when i claim AFK gains the amount gets doubled? I have yet for it to happen after claiming like 5 times now and 50% chance for double drop

[placid mural]

the doubled amount is reflected in the afk gains notice

[somber sparrow]

well the claims window already shows the x2 gains

[placid mural]

its not twice the shown amount

[sharp igloo]

Is it based on RAM and GPU at all or just purely software?

[sour oasis]

Hmm ok ill keep an eye out for any extreme ladle amounts. I feel like i havent seen anything larger than normal

[somber sparrow]

its as much a software issue as is the lags when casting meteor on ES 😄

[leaden karma]

it says 82% lower cooldown on cranium cooking but my cranium cd is still 44k shouldn't it be aroung 15 or 16k or it calculates differently?

[sour oasis]

CC is essentially cooldown recovery, so 100% would be cutting the original CD in half

[leaden karma]

ohhhh

[sharp igloo]

I never play active on PC lol, mostly just mobile so ive never noticed any of that, but I have 256GB of RAM and a 4090, so if that makes a difference, Ill give it a shot

[somber sparrow]

i dont think it will 😄 still can only advice against mono because who has time for that when you could be farming?

[sharp igloo]

Lol fair enough. Do you think I could get 200 with this team?

[somber sparrow]

technically yes, you have alchemic unlocked?

[sharp igloo]

Which pet is that?

[somber sparrow]

ice w3

bloque

[somber sparrow]

actually nevermind, you might need a defender XD later on your borger will just be oneshot

[sharp igloo]

I have these

[somber sparrow]

Youll need a defender for sure 😄

exchance looter for defender and it might work

[sharp igloo]

Will i have to like manually use my defender attacks lol?

[somber sparrow]

no

refiller + badum will make it so that you have an unbroken wall of shields

[sharp igloo]

Oh sick

[somber sparrow]

still has a small chance of an attaack coming through

so its a very very small part of rng

[sharp igloo]

How strong should my defender be?

[somber sparrow]

also maybe rearrange them - rattler, defender, refiller badum borger

doesnt matter honestly, only your rattler will deal damage anyways, the rest is just for effects

it would be nice if it doesnt get oneshot below wave 100 as there might be a bouncing attack coming through before your pets are shooting fast enough to block everything - other than that it doesnt contribute to the damage

[sharp igloo]

Think this'll work?

[somber sparrow]

looking good imo - just try it

everything can be on full auto unless you want to stack badum more in the beginning as topbird said before

[sharp igloo]

How does that work exactly?

[bold quiver]

u can finish all pet battles with 4k powerpets '.' just need up to monolithic and burger unlocked

[opaque sun]

You just go manually and press the hotkey for badum

Then at mid point just toggle auto

[sharp igloo]

Badum and nothing else?

[opaque sun]

Badum and maybe refiller

[sharp igloo]

What wave would you toggle auto on, and how does that help?

[bold quiver]

i'd just do 5 pet comp with monolithic and afk to 125

[opaque sun]

or just go full auto if you dont know what you are doing

[bold quiver]

then quit run and start again with 6 team to reach 200 on auto again

[sharp igloo]

Mono takes too long lol

[opaque sun]

Since its a comp without looter, doesnt matter much to build up

[somber sparrow]

looter screwed me too many times XD

[opaque sun]

just place looter relatively in front

[bold quiver]

my 8k rattler and 3k looter beat arena 0-125 in 3h30minutes full auto, gg

higher your rattelr and looter lvl faster it is

[opaque sun]

if it casts alchemic and die, let the looter take responsibility

[sharp igloo]

Oh im an idiot lol, I just realized I have 6 slots not 5. Should I add a looter to this?

[opaque sun]

Yeah, like somewhere next to badum

[bold quiver]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[bold quiver]

just copy that 6 team order and gg, ez battle

[somber sparrow]

XD well gg then

[opaque sun]

The guide has looter behind refiller, but i would recommend in front of refiller

[somber sparrow]

time for bed, almost 5am - gn dudes and dudettes

[sharp igloo]

Night!

[sharp igloo]

It does say to swap them if you have alchemic unlocked

[sharp igloo]

Lmao we just all sent that 🤣

[bold quiver]

[somber sparrow]

go get that 200 ! night~

[sharp igloo]

Will do!

[bold quiver]

that guide for pet arena is very solid. Only comp that is "bad" is the 4 man comp. There is a better and more braindead comp for it that works with every power

[opaque sun]

what i mean is that even without alchemic, refiller is rather more priority than looter imo

[sharp igloo]

Is this gonna take like 3 hours lol?

[somber sparrow]

oh yeah and to save u some sorrow - x1,4 damage is not multiplicative 😛

[bold quiver]

no, without alchemy u use that order on screen

cuz it doesnt matter

the reason for looter vs refiller swap if alchemic is because your team is probably getting sacrificed along the run. If u dont have alchemic no one dies

[sharp igloo]

Damn lol 😭

[opaque sun]

I still prefer looter front as if looter dies, its not detrimental for the fight, but if refiller dies, you are on a timer

[bold quiver]

it doesnt die

[opaque sun]

When it dies it dies

[bold quiver]

your whole team is immortal if u dont have alchemic

[opaque sun]

There is always that lucky shot gets through

Like roughly around 0.5% chance or so

[bold quiver]

yea, good luck getting that 0,00001% to get 1 hit that has less than 1% chance to hit between a stack of 10 shields together

[opaque sun]

Since order doesnt matter much, i dont think its wrong for me to take extra caution

[sharp igloo]

Okay final team, am I good to go? Also how long should I expect this to take. Ill go set it up on my PC if its gonna be more than 30-60 minutes

[bold quiver]

no idea, havent ever seen a comp that high that still hasnt beat 200

but its more than 1h

cuz thats just how long it takes to stack

[gray pagoda]

Why do people use boxing gloves on bubo? I'm not super endgame, so I'm assuming there's something I'm missing.

[opaque sun]

id say you might want to expect like 2hr

[bold quiver]

witha 8k rattler and 4k loot it took me 3h15 minutes to beat arena 200, so yours will be lower than that kkkkkkk

[opaque sun]

bubo aura is his best attacks, but has issues with a very short trigger range

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks ill do it on my pc then so I can still use my phone

[bold quiver]

lava bad coding

[wooden stratus]

how do i raise my vmans shite damage

[opaque sun]

When you use staves, the long range makes it just out of reach where the aura triggers

[gray pagoda]

So he gets closer to mobs to hit them with it?

[sharp igloo]

I wanna know the same thing lol. But i think its mainly just raising all your skills, alchemy, and gear

[bold quiver]

it doesnt change that much so its kinda whatever if u dont have enough dmg to use gloves

[gray pagoda]

By "it" I mean the aura

[bold quiver]

just a min max thing

[opaque sun]

When bubo rushes in to punch mob, mob gets within range of the aura trigger range, thus allowing bubo yo cast aura more often

[gray pagoda]

My bubo isn't all that good. Like I said, I'm not super endgame. My bubo is still less than level 200 and can't fight the suggmas 😅

[opaque sun]

Same effect can be achieved with wooden spear too, but stinger got slight more stats and damage

[gray pagoda]

I'm one of the idiots who would rush and use candies and stuff

[bold quiver]

hahaha yeah lvl doenst mean anything

my character was lvl 300 and i already had over 500B dmg

[gray pagoda]

... mine is level 358 and still does less than 100M

[haughty cove]

yo

[opaque sun]

When spears used to cleave on a non-warrior, bubo used spear for the added mechanic. But now they dont cleave anymore, bubo uses stingers

[haughty cove]

my is lvl 200 and my max dmg was 2bil

[frigid sundial]

Dang, I'm 405 and have 307m - 506m damage range

[viscid sandal]

Is there reason to unlock all pets in breeding besides shinies?

[gray pagoda]

And level does kinda matter. That % all stat from bubos family bonus is pretty useful lol.

[bold quiver]

meh

[opaque sun]

using gloves reduces damage compared to staff, but since aura’s damage multipler is good, overall using gloves deals more effective damage in total

[gray pagoda]

That makes sense. I guess it doesn't matter as long as you can one shot mobs with gloves, right?

[sharp igloo]

Does the glove thing only apply if youre activing?

[bold quiver]

what thing?

gloves doesnt do anything '.'

[sharp igloo]

Using gloves over staves

[bold quiver]

cant caast skills offline

[sharp igloo]

So yes, only applies while active?

[bold quiver]

applies what, thats what im not following

gloves doesnt do anything

[sharp igloo]

Like you should only do it if youre playing active

[gray pagoda]

Skills slightly help with AFK, but that slight is so slight you barely notice anything

[bold quiver]

ofc o.o skills cant be activated offline

[sharp igloo]

Gotchya

[haughty cove]

[sharp igloo]

I literally never play active so this is all news to me lol

[bold quiver]

bubo active is good, but too overrated

[haughty cove]

is it worth getting vman?

[bold quiver]

ES has more uses

[bold quiver]

yes, very good class

[sharp igloo]

My main is ES, but I kinda wanted to start doing active on bubo for CC since i run out of liquid all the time for atoming

[placid mural]

How TF are you supposed to super chow the skeleton poops?

[gray pagoda]

I just recently got into active. My laptop has been on for probably a week and it zoomed through W5. Currently need ~1.1M kills left on the Lampars after starting on Suggmas

[haughty cove]

i see

[bold quiver]

people put too much value on bubo wheere it doesnt exist

[haughty cove]

ok then imma try getting it

[bold quiver]

He is only asituational character that u hop on from time to time, like DK

[gray pagoda]

My ES was less than level 200, and now at level 358 I have more talent points than I can use, due to my low talent level cap

[bold quiver]

gota work to get him, pretty easy stuff

just chow W1-W3 with barb and gg

[sharp igloo]

How do you get liquids without activing bubo?

[haughty cove]

getting it its really easy for me honestly

[placid mural]

Idk my DK has been my active for the last week and a half farming keys lol

[haughty cove]

i already have 1mil on them

i got them with bb

[bold quiver]

i play bubo 2 or 3 times a day at most since istarted playing him. I never had any lack of liquid =/

[opaque sun]

bubo/dk/es active have different uses. There isnt one thats the best

[gray pagoda]

I think you just... Wait lol.

[bold quiver]

like 1 CC of mine can get me almost 2k liquid

where would i even use that much so fast haha, so doing 2 per day at most is enough

[sharp igloo]

Lol I need enough liquids to reach my daily boron limit, and the 24 per hour I get normally is not nearly enough

[gray pagoda]

... the most I get on any of the liquids is less than 5

[bold quiver]

yeah u need to play bubo at least 1-2 times per day to get enough liquid for a few days

[gray pagoda]

That's why I regret neglecting alchemy so hard

[sharp igloo]

Where are you using CC? I only get like 300 each time lol. Does multikill effect that?

[bold quiver]

only screen kills, i get 340-350k per cc

[opaque sun]

wurms for best results

[bold quiver]

but even when i was getting 40- and then 70 then 120k it already gave me enough water

[opaque sun]

Citringes or floms are good alternative if you dont have the damage to do wurms

[bold quiver]

so i never bothered to keep playing bubo active, didnt make sense to me

why would i keep doing CC if my water would get full in 3-4 cc (more than 5k liquid

[sharp igloo]

Im not even sure if I can 1 shot wurms on my bubo with poison lol.

[opaque sun]

spend GT and do more

[bold quiver]

again pointless

i'd rather have actual account progression

[gray pagoda]

👀

I've never seen someone say that before

[opaque sun]

thank you for calling my 50x class exp pointless

[gray pagoda]

That GT is useless

[bold quiver]

GT is good, but its whatever

doesnt give u dmg

[sharp igloo]

How much damage do you need to CC at wurms?

[opaque sun]

Also raising the cap of liquid essentially allows you to farm 16 gems a day

[bold quiver]

not much,need to go there aand use 1 aura

[sharp igloo]

Would 15bil be enough?

[bold quiver]

for wurms yes, for crystal probably not, need to check

[opaque sun]

Should be more than enough

As long you doing multikill on them, usually means enough damage to one shot them

[bold quiver]

People keep preaching about GT, they just keep repeating what old players used to do without thinking

GT bubble is overrated, no one should be playing bubo to lvl that

until they are done with everything else ES and DK can give u

[opaque sun]

Its a nice thing to use while farming money

[sharp igloo]

My ES has like 60bil+ but when I put the same gear on my bubo he has like 15bil lol.

[placid mural]

Gt?

[gray pagoda]

I don't mean play bubo specifically to level GT, but levelling it once in a while wouldn't be bad.

[opaque sun]

Or dump in liquid for more cap

[haughty cove]

i think i gonna change one of my es too bubo

[bold quiver]

u max your stamps on cash pretty fast, so its whatever on money also

[haughty cove]

to get more cc

[bold quiver]

yeah its ok

[gentle furnace]

You have 3 es?

[haughty cove]

2

[gentle furnace]

Then you should have 1 bubo

[haughty cove]

2es 1bubo

[bold quiver]

but thats just my opinion, i'd rather play and do stuff that will actualy increase my acc strenght, instead of useless GT leveling

[opaque sun]

Bubo’s GT is pretty much like his “power of 10 kills to buff family” thing

[gentle furnace]

1 bubo is enough

[haughty cove]

kk

[opaque sun]

You dont do stuff just for that bonus, but its nice to work on while you are doing bubo

[gray pagoda]

I don't mean to be rude or make it seem like I'm telling you what to do (which would be stupid considering you are WAY more progressed than I am) but I think you're talking about what's good for your account. For most other people, levelling GT and getting money isn't that easy, and is pretty much essential.

[bold quiver]

i feel u. ANd thats why i can tell u that is the reason they progresss so slow compared to me XD

[gray pagoda]

For example, I can only get void coins from the W4 colosseum

[placid mural]

What does GT stand for?

[bold quiver]

grind time bubble

[placid mural]

Ty

[haughty cove]

you bave sheepe right?

[bold quiver]

yeah sheep

[sharp igloo]

Im curious about that too, how are people getting so much money? I have over a bil gmush kills and I still struggle to get 1 or 2 dreadlo coins over multiple days

[haughty cove]

ty and noice

[bold quiver]

There isnt much to it. Its just cooking dishes for money + green mushroom kills + jawbreaker prayer[

[opaque sun]

Bubo: farms money the best, also can work on liquid cap and GT per kills made
ES: farms mob drops. Also can work to give damage per kills made
DK: farm’s crystal drips. Also can work to buff printer, and speed up construction
SB: farms shit, but nice bonus of dr and exp bonus per kills

[gray pagoda]

Could you give me some pointers on how to get Nullo salts easier? Still haven't unlocked them, and I'll be getting the skullslip hollow in 5 days (when my traps give me the bunnies) after just getting the grey gatsby today. I want to get the diabolical opticule as soon as possible.

[haughty cove]

rabbit god too

[opaque sun]

No one is “best” as they each fulfills specific needs

[sharp igloo]

How big of a difference does activing vs purely afk playing make in regards to money?

[haughty cove]

alot

[bold quiver]

There isnt a way to do it unfortunately D:. Refinery is just waiting game, what u can do is do a different proportion then whats recomended on pins here

[opaque sun]

Maybe like 100x difference or more

[haughty cove]

like 10x times

[gray pagoda]

Dang... Well, thanks for at least letting me know lol.

[bold quiver]

i did my own proportions on green/pink/nullo instead of following the guide, it worked a lot

[sharp igloo]

Really? So if I just start playing active on my bubo Ill start getting godshard coins lol?

[bold quiver]

no, your money will stsill suck

[haughty cove]

use elefent god

[gray pagoda]

Aaand looking at the recipe for the opticule I just lost all hope -_-

I also need STUPID SOULS to get it

[bold quiver]

true, i dont know how is your god situation but i did ran 9 omniphay for a while, that is the best

[gray pagoda]

I hate worship dude

[sharp igloo]

Why?

[bold quiver]

Cuz bubo doesnt do anything besides allowing u to kill a bunch of crystal mobs.

[opaque sun]

because its clear that you havent worked much on other money multipliers

[haughty cove]

you can get dreadlo coind easier but god shard nah

[gray pagoda]

I do have Omniphau, but I don't have anyone I'd leave alone for that long. Maybe bubo since he's in lab...

[heavy moth]

cmonnn will it hit 3 trillion ffs

[sharp igloo]

Like which ones?

[bold quiver]

Most of your money just comes from green mushroom kills, nothing else u can do

pick your 2 SB and throw them at gmush forrever, thats it

[opaque sun]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[bold quiver]

with that + cooking + a few alchemy bubbles u will start getting more cash

[haughty cove]

sb?

[sharp igloo]

How many gmush kills do I need to get like 1 godshard a day?

[opaque sun]

its not just gmush tho, work on each money groups

[sharp igloo]

What are the other ones?

[bold quiver]

idk, gmush is only the strongest gold mult

[gray pagoda]

Money or boosted money % gain? Cause those are two different things. (I already know the answer, just want it cleared up for anyone who may've misunderstood.

[opaque sun]

here

[bold quiver]

no idea to be honest, i just keep seeeing myself getting more gold over time

its because of green mush + more base stats + cooking

[iron jolt]

tips for pong?

[sharp igloo]

Oh wow thats a lot lol, thanks

[gray pagoda]

Gmush kills give best money % boost. You'll get way more money farming a mob with higher coin drop, but you can get higher coin drop by farming gmush kills for money %.

[bold quiver]

What people need to understand is that this game works in ranges.
For example, u have a range of gold gain, so u level your stamps to that range.. Then u wait until u reach a new range, then u level again.
Same with alchemy or other areas, There is absolutely no point to try to overfarm something for 1-2 upgrades

[opaque sun]

Depends on your other money groups, but around few b gmush kills you start to get godshards

[bold quiver]

Thats also the main reason i dont main bubo, there is no point for me farming coin now, why? cuz all mym stamps are on my gold range already, i would have to farm on bubo for 3 hours just for 1 upgrade

[sharp igloo]

Just out of curiousity, how much money does it say you get per hour when you click afk gains at wurms?

[opaque sun]

honestly, “main” is a early mid game thing

late game and end game you dont bother with “main” char

[bold quiver]

no idea how this correlates with actual gold gain

but i get more than 1 godshard per cc

[sharp igloo]

Im sure it doesnt, I just wanted a frame of reference lol. I get like 24 lustre on mine

[gray pagoda]

I've learned that from other people. I'm currently at that spot, and thankfully my main isn't what it used to be. I used to main BB ever since W1 when he was a warrior, as he had the highest damage, and I never did active. Now I main ES, as he has the highest damage, most KPH, and highest level.

[bold quiver]

ES god!" i still main ES ever since i started w5

[gray pagoda]

No offense but you're kinda starting to sound like a jerk. He was just asking to see your gold -_-

[bold quiver]

theclass is just too good lol

[sharp igloo]

I was always a wizard main lol. Since day 1

[bold quiver]

no because there are many factors that would change that number '.'

i can make that number get to red shard

[gray pagoda]

Yes but you said "No idea how this correlates with actual gold gain" He didn't say anything about gold gain, he just asked to see your gold

[sharp igloo]

I just wanted a ballpark lol, all good

[bold quiver]

yeah just to compare

[proud swallow]

has anyone 10millioned Decent Strength Potions? if you farmed them who did you use?

[bold quiver]

to be honest i dont think that gold screen even correlates with actual gold claim from afk

[opaque sun]

When your afk info starts showing starfire, you should be able to reach god shards in active

[bold quiver]

check checkout. this is my ES right?

its saying i get 82 yellow per hour. But now i just claimed 6 red from a 40 minutes afk claim

[tight ridge]

bro i just realized this portal is here now

[sharp igloo]

Lmao you get more wurm kills per hour than I get gmush 🤣 how many gmush do you get per hour?

[bold quiver]

without build this

but i can get over 10M

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay, thats not as big of a difference as I thought it would be. Still crazy tho

[bold quiver]

i have this many gmush kills, i think its 30B

but ever since the update i havent been farming gmush unfortunately, im trying to finish droping items for everyone on this boss

[hardy quarry]

Damn, it felt like some kind of epic journey of insurmountable odds to get to 1b damage, then a week later I'm almost 10b. The scaling is bananas.

[opaque sun]

i think the afk info shows coins at 1x dr

[bold quiver]

crazy scaling right, u wil be reachin 100b in no time

[tight ridge]

guys how do i see my kill count on rift, idk if i got zow/chow or how close i am to them

[bold quiver]

oh that would explain it

[opaque sun]

so you need to apply the effective money dr on that for the actual money

[sharp igloo]

That would make sense

[opaque sun]

And also why changing dr doesnt change the coin display

[bold quiver]

had totaly forgot about drop rate over gold gains on afk claims

[sharp igloo]

I dont think you can zow/chow rift

[sick sentinel]

You can

[tight ridge]

you can

[sharp igloo]

Oh really?

[bold quiver]

prob on IE or toolbox

[tight ridge]

idk where to find the progress though

[sick sentinel]

Ye its just all rift mobs count as 1

[opaque sun]

chow/zow is per map

So solo acorn at acorn td and brown poops at dr def counts too (and they can be done with candy)

Invisible gmush at doot counts too, but that can only be done via active

[bold quiver]

wish i had chowed rift 1 mobs!

[sharp igloo]

Weird

[opaque sun]

you can always chow now

Just take a bit longer

[bold quiver]

superchow

[tight ridge]

im chowing at rift 17 rn

[bold quiver]

only 97,15M to finish

[tight ridge]

where is this

[bold quiver]

toolbox

[tight ridge]

ive been trying to find it

[opaque sun]

And also work on boops daily for eventual super chow

[tight ridge]

omg i forgot about boops

but like realisticly how many years is that gonna take lol

[opaque sun]

Maybe be shorter than you think when lava adds some new things in w6+

Or does the similar mistake again like day 1 bubo raise dead on boops

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk

[tight ridge]

bro this idleon toolbox is pretty useful

i didnt know about it been using IE only

[granite grove]

lava might add really high mob respawn % in later updates with along current MK% and ppl can finally sample boops

[bright current]

He might do a lot of things. He might add pets more powerful and expensive then doot

Jk, ofc he will do that

[granite grove]

just matter of when

[hidden grove]

dare i ask what you did ?

btw what is the best class for farming kill for deathnote ?

[opaque sun]

For pure kills and ignoring every other gains, ES

[hardy quarry]

I think unlocking a couple of the early eldritch artifacts helped.
I think the biggest contributor was the chip that doubled the bottom right card. Memed out!

[opaque sun]

For most value made for doing Deathnote is SB

[hidden grove]

what makes siege breaker best ?

[bright current]

He's got cool animations

[opaque sun]

Smelting and also to some degree smithing

[tight ridge]

hes a pirate pirates are cool

[thin rose]

cause sb is barry allen

fastest man alive

[opaque sun]

If you are like “i dont give a damn with smelting” then es slightly gets more kills per hr

[hidden grove]

intersting

any idea what is best for farming boss cards ?

my guess is vman becaues of the extra card drop skill

[opaque sun]

Vman assuming he can kill the boss

[bright current]

[vernal iris]

bruh wtf I just went from level 35 chopping to 56 with a one hour candy on my vman exp gains are off the charts

[hidden grove]

are card drop rate cards woth using ?

[thin kernel]

anyone have a good setup for breeding? 😄

[hidden grove]

mating press or doggy

[thin kernel]

well was thinking of spicy 😄

[vernal iris]

[twilit goblet]

is there a consensus on where the best map for dk in w2 is? sandy pot and snelbie, if we are looking purely at obol drops

[hidden grove]

why would you dk for obols ?

its bubonic best for farming crystals which is source of obols ?

isnt *

[twilit goblet]

oh bubo best at obol?

i think it has something to do with orb drop rate affecting dice obols but im not too sure about it

from crystal mobs

[vital tusk]

any tips for kattlekruk under 30?

[sharp igloo]

ES can do it under 30

Itll take like 30 minutes though

[vital tusk]

under 30 secs

[covert sphinx]

if the recipe is not a black outline does that mean i have found it before?

[sharp igloo]

Ohhh lmao, I thought you meant under 30bil damage

[vital tusk]

lol ya def unber 30b dmg as well

[sharp igloo]

Are you talking about normal kattlekruk or nightmare?

[vital tusk]

chaotic for the task

[pine pond]

guess my damage bro?

[sharp igloo]

Oh, idk what the best bossing class is right now. Maybe a berserker or ES? I really have no idea lol

[hidden grove]

if you find it, it will not appear on drop table anymore

[pine pond]

ES DK BUBO

[hidden grove]

more damage

ES is good be cause ligning barage has bonkers multiplier

[vital tusk]

gottcha

[pine pond]

lightning barage pog

[hidden grove]

omg what is your damage, and how do i get mine that high

[pine pond]

it high

[hidden grove]

7t

[pine pond]

i just did more death note

went from 2 trill max

to 7

[hidden grove]

im at 26b

[pine pond]

i was there a month ago

youll get there soon buddy

😛

[hidden grove]

so like only 140x less

[thin kernel]

im doing deadnote now XD and at the same time.. status farm 😄

[hidden grove]

so is it just heavy pumping of the wis bubble ?

[gaunt island]

the w5 stat stamps are nuts too, can easily get almost 1k raw stats from them alone

[pine pond]

i did w3 1b death note and half of w4

so i wouldnt say just Wis

food, deathnote, meals, wis

etc

[gaunt island]

7t is impressive :p me jelly

[pine pond]

can barley hit 2 trill last night. so yeah big difference

[gaunt island]

Ye just gotta get all those multies, I went from 600m to like 4b in the past week something, gotta get more rift masteries then proceed to eclipsing w1/2

[hidden grove]

how much candy did you use ?

[gaunt island]

I use all of it to maintain ref mostly so rarely got any laying around xD

starting to save big ones for when w5 becomes candy-able

[lunar axle]

How does death note give dmg what am I missing?

[sharp wind]

1b deathnote, rift bonus

[pine pond]

eclipse

[gaunt island]

5% per monster was it?

[pine pond]

yea

[gaunt island]

so like 300% pure dmg if ure a gamer

[opaque sun]

+5% multiplicative damage (but additive with other eclipse damage bonus)

[lunar axle]

Oh jesus I should have read further I only have 5 eclipse skulls so far.....fml

[gaunt island]

question is, do you park all ur toons in one map or scatter them around

[lunar axle]

One map

[thin kernel]

what i do.. i set all on on map.. and let my dk "aktiv" farming status on giganfrog,, as i need them to.. and this getting status

[sharp wind]

Farming status? How does it work?

Ohh statues?

[thin kernel]

have a old fon stay aktiv for crystal farming XD

[sharp wind]

Ahh yes u mean statues

[thin kernel]

ye

[bleak linden]

Sorry if this ia the wrong channel for this, but how does king doot work? Do i get each god ive unlocked or is it all of them even before unlocking them

[thin kernel]

idk if you need to unlock them.. but it counts as all of them

[gaunt island]

look, a doot haver

[oak jewel]

is there any way to get more than 245 on books currently?

[gaunt island]

people were getting 267 on DK orbs so I'd assume there is, eldritch artifact is +75 or +50?

[sharp wind]

Thats max i think

[sharp wind]

Book max 245, 267 from ES bonus, artic, rift slug probably

[gaunt island]

that gotta be one helluva es, like lvl500 xD

[zealous niche]

You need to level div to register your access then you get all deities

[oak jewel]

oh skills can go like up to + a lot with the new pet as well

thats solid +25

[gaunt island]

ye just gotta get the slug

[sharp wind]

Yea rift slug pet

[oak jewel]

i think my skills are about +50 on most classes

[zealous niche]

Unlocking the deities is still beneficial since they have other bonuses you need to upgrade via their altar

[sharp wind]

Got 2😌

[oak jewel]

just was wondering if book can go higher so i can push vman

[zealous niche]

245 is max

[oak jewel]

i got really jebaited by construct mastery, but alas, the +100 library was for the building not the books

[gaunt island]

wanna make an arrangement if by the time trading releases I don't get it you could gift one to me? 🥹 I can become a w2/3 dungeon slave for a day in turn

[oak jewel]

cause who doesnt want a 200 level library

[sharp wind]

Ah sadly i already planned to trade it with someone else when trading is release

[gaunt island]

all gd no harm no foul

I'll ragequit before I get to the stage I need 245 skills and 112-digit cooking plates anyway

[agile pagoda]

Is there a reason to use the Arrowhead artifact's effect? Like... is it worth it?

[thin kernel]

well is only better chance for a rare chests so ye good to have 😄

[oak jewel]

its good for its passive effect , the active is jebait, always use the smallest rarity chest

[agile pagoda]

Alrighty

[sharp igloo]

How good is vial mastery?

[opaque sun]

quite nice. The most noticeable one is the 100% chance to double statue deposit, but the others are great too

[hollow wasp]

what is this design, when i try to click him i get to the next portal

when i put auto on he moves trough the portal alone

[dapper prism]

if on pc, press R

[hollow wasp]

and then?

i cant click him

whenever i click him i get trough the portal, and R doesnt do anything

i just spam ability wshenever they come up whatever

[dapper prism]

when you are close to something, R will autoattack whats near you

You can WASD to move then R when close to stuff

[hollow wasp]

ye i realized, but didnt attack the boss

[timber warren]

my skills wont even do damage to it 🤣

[dapper prism]

this can be great for void runs btw

[hollow wasp]

oh wasd is a thing

i legit never tried lol

[dapper prism]

yeh, T = opens talents, C opens codex, if u have your ability page display showing, you can press 7 to change pages. and keys 1-6 to cast/queue

[hollow wasp]

oh okay

seems easy

[dapper prism]

also I for items, etc. i wish we had something for opening player page 😦

Scroll wheel to change storage and backpage tabs/pages

[zinc torrent]

Anyone know the best way to farm silver pens for po boxes?

like which map?

[crisp silo]

Kill crystals

[dapper prism]

Depends slightly. technically Bloodbones w3 with crystal rate maxed, choco chip and using DK

[zinc torrent]

rip 😦 i don't have the lab chip for crystals yet

[dapper prism]

However, early on you may want to do pots or snelbie for dice obols if you still need them

[crisp silo]

Dont famr pens

[zinc torrent]

good call i may do that, my dice are still only gold, don't have any of the higher ones yet, once my DK is less worthless i may do that, i am gonna keep buying chips in hopes to get the crystal spawn one

[dapper prism]

1/22 chance with 7 attempts a week (a bit costy) but else its waiting till december 27th sadly.

You can already prepare by getting 4* crystal chacne cards and sztuff like that though

[zinc torrent]

yeah i already have all drop chance, card drop chance, and crystal spawn chance cards to 4*, the chip is all that's really holding me back

[dapper prism]

Sounds good, another thing that you can passively prep at the same time are shrines:

• 3 crystal shrine which makes all other shrines level faster
• 7 Crecent shrine which increases crystal (+giant) chance
• 5 Clover for DR

[zinc torrent]

yeah my shrines are always being leveled but i don't have the time to put my construction towards them right now, my tower defense is way behind so im focusing on upgrading towers

[dapper prism]

Yeh, keep maxing that poison tower permanently 😄

[zinc torrent]

issue with the poison tower is im lacking purple salts, so im still focusing on the other 4, boulder/ice/party/lightning

[placid mural]

WTF

[dapper prism]

wow

gz

[zinc torrent]

u can trade one of them for a sand pot

[placid mural]

holy shit

a legit free doot. . .

[dreamy merlin]

is there any way to boost gaming xp so i can get super bits sooner?

[dapper prism]

cooking food

https://i.imgur.com/xgYuEqo.png

Mhm finally a decent captain:
https://i.imgur.com/0HXSzyF.png

Which ones would you replace?
https://i.imgur.com/IJiN5K0.png

Thinking H right now? Next probably O ?

[dreamy merlin]

can you reach max speed on all islands?

or at least the ones you care abt?

[zealous niche]

Speed is usually more critical than loot

[dapper prism]

Only got 3 eldritch left

[white badger]

Speed is useless if you can reach all without it

[zealous niche]

Hm alright

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/6ATFuM3.png

So i am backtracking going 1 island after another right now for some base resources to upgrade speed/loot a bit

https://i.imgur.com/mVQDzgh.png

[zealous niche]

Reach and farm are quite different

[dapper prism]

Looks like ill have 7 or 8 soon for min speed last island

might need to just rearrange some captains

[forest berry]

does cranium cooking affect sigils?

[dapper prism]

We wish xD

[granite grove]

just if

[opaque sun]

It did on day 1 of sigil update

[dapper prism]

did people keep their progress? 😮

[noble hound]

Just got doot. Should i get divinity points while just afk now? Havent seen any appear in my away gains message

[opaque sun]

any progress beyond the 5th sigil was reset to 5th or something like that

[dapper prism]

No, Bear + Goat combo does not work, you have to be inside lab for goat to work for div. So doot would not affect you getting div points/xp outside of lab/div

[opaque sun]

But yeah people kept part of the progress

[sweet mirage]

You get bonuses from gods, there's no god that gives you divinity points

[noble hound]

But there is a god that makes you active in the altar. Just thought it would work aswell as lab lol

[opaque sun]

goat requires physical presence in lab

[grim torrent]

If your character is in the lab (not that there's much point if you have all at lvl 75, even more so if you have all at lvl 100) they will get divinity points and exp as well as lab exp

[north juniper]

Is it just better to have a full dice setup on each unit then 1 set of each skill when leveling, sampling, etc?

[opaque sun]

Family full of dr, and have one set of dr personal, and rest uses skill personal set is what people do mostly i think

[dapper dome]

whats the mat requirements for new armors ?

[viral snow]

Alot

[dapper dome]

does another set build into them ?

[north juniper]

Gotcha. Yeah I got family full DR, also on my ES and DK when farming. I'll have to start getting full skill specific sets

[viral snow]

Magma yes

[north juniper]

Which one in particular are you looking at?

[opaque sun]

Wiki has the info

[dapper prism]

You only really need 1 or 2 DR alt sets depending on how lazy you are, I have:
1x on ES
1x on DK (because i hate switching)
(then family maxed with dr too)
I guess could do a situational one for vman or just move a set over for bossing. I usually have card chance obols on vman for skilling cards.
Then i just keep my bm on trap obols, 2nd dk on con, 2nd es on worship. and have stuff like base skills in the obol storage. 🤷
PS: when i tested skill obol vs no obols it was only roughly a 1-2% difference in sample. (without spark)

[hollow wasp]

unlocked my 4th god

[dapper prism]

idk the new armor has like nearly 0 requirement imo.

just a few teeth from kills and done

[north juniper]

For the wiki here is an example as Top said

[dapper prism]

confused what lustre has to do with the new set?

It's
Troll->Magma->Divine

[north juniper]

Gotcha. I definitely have the space for it so I can continue working down this route

[north juniper]

That was the recipe for diabolical. Just an example

[dapper prism]

For skill obols it will be a lot of daily obols from alch shop btw. Good to get. Also good to destroy a ton of obols for 10's of thousands of fragments when pen farming bloodbones and crap.

[north juniper]

Oh shoot was the question specifically about the newest armor or just moving to a new armor

[dapper prism]

I remember when 1 spark cost me 1.4k frags itself, lovely rng.

[dapper dome]

as someone playing catch up should i even bother with any of the earlier stuff ?

or just sit on dementia armor until troll ?

[north juniper]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[dapper prism]

base smithing ones like lustre/diabolic are trash.
I'd just say dementia and/or chizoar is a good and easy one to get

[dapper dome]

yeah that chart kinda garbage lol

[opaque sun]

Void > chiz > troll > magma/divine

[dapper prism]

Full chizoar is really easy to grind out and i did 10/10 chars while being time gated on salt for troll

[north juniper]

Yeah I didn't add the context. I stuck with dementia after the change to the perquisites. You can survive just fine in food and talents.

I JUST made chiz sets because I could.

[dapper dome]

every char rockin dementia items atm except ES, dementia helm, void everything else

[north juniper]

Want to see my second ES lvl 225 rocking gold like a boss? 💀

[dapper prism]

chiz is just also pretty cheap pretty quick, 350 green and 150 purple salt for a set. Rares are easy grind with es

[dapper dome]

i finally was able to craft t4 lmao

went from getting 48 or w.e souls per worship on that stupid ice map to like 700 something

wave 16 was my max, focused on leveling boulder got to wave 50

[north juniper]

It scales pretty quickly. Just make sure you find so leveling Boulder rollers

[dapper prism]

I had 9/10 in Chizoar, 1x Magma (es)
Yesterday i burnt through my salts to setup more magma sets, starting to look good 😄
https://i.imgur.com/urrZ9rs.png

[north juniper]

Always torn whether I should set salt to auto refine but I just don't want to

I hear the red salt horror stories

[dapper dome]

i cut a lot of corners pushing for w5

[dapper prism]

recommend getting everyones skills to level 8 (or even 15ish) and then tossing on iron tools on all for every skill. some easy talent pts and free stats

But overall looks clean and solid imo

[dapper dome]

its wild how DK pushing w5 with no food

100% survivability

[modern plaza]

corners are meant to be cut so you can get those juicy multipliers.. then when you make your simple shit you vroom vroom and be like ohhh i see new corners to cut now

[dapper dome]

i need to backpedal for a lot of skilling soon

been putting it off until i could push maestro's shit up

[dapper prism]

Just use daily minigames for fishing quest on characters 1 by 1, easy lvl 10+ fishing over time

[north juniper]

This crystal steak is avoiding me like the plague

[dapper dome]

rn im just waiting to get some better gear and more levels on vman

so i can get him a bit higher and level stuff on him first

[north juniper]

Are you doing your speed runs where possible?

[dapper dome]

only done one so far

[north juniper]

It's a Vman right? Looking at the picture

[dapper dome]

his level lacking hard atm

he was 150 on the dot yesterday

pretty much everything else was only like 110-120

[modern plaza]

in due time young vman

[dapper dome]

w5 making their exp go brrr

[north juniper]

Nice. Just don't skimp on those talents for him. Even if you can push another portal or two

[modern plaza]

@dapper prism so constructions mastery dmg bonus is additive 😦

[dapper dome]

i got 22 on my first and only run

[modern plaza]

didn’t even notice a bump

[dapper dome]

i think thats kinda bad tho ? lol

[north juniper]

That's not bad

[dapper prism]

What else would even do dmg bonus?

[modern plaza]

i thought it was gonna be a multiplier like eclipses

[dapper dome]

i also auto'd during it, so void radius wasnt being used optimally

[modern plaza]

hit 1T green bits. gonna have 5Q in no time, well maybe after 2 or 3 more snail levels lol

[dapper dome]

i need to also backtrack for constellation stuff

[proud swallow]

has anyone 10millioned Decent Strength Potions? if you farmed them who did you use?

[dapper dome]

oh wait i still need to farm pop obols too

[dapper prism]

I'm only on 1m but looks like w3 crystal would be "easy", can be done while farming pens at bloodbones with maxed crystal rate. 1/11 for 25

[modern plaza]

i just put 5 choco chips on my dk and omg the procs

[dapper prism]

but they dont stack?

[gray schooner]

is snail a big boost to bit gain?

[dapper prism]

huge

just slow

[gray schooner]

how huge we talking?

[ancient vine]

Exponential by 2 every upgrade

[dapper prism]

It's a direct multiplier of 2x on your current rate, each single rank upgrade

[ancient vine]

2,4,8,16 etc

[gray schooner]

ok, that is indeed huge

[dapper prism]

the only issue is it can set you back weeks or even months too

[gray schooner]

but it'll at least feel like an upgrade. compared to pong...

[dapper prism]

I failed lvl 8 to 9 3x (9 tickets) luckily no reset.
But it could have reset me back to level 0(1?)
https://i.imgur.com/wWQSzL2.png

If it resets, you'd basically fall back a month in this case

[gray schooner]

you get 1 ticket a day, right?

[dapper prism]

and "encouraging" it barely does anything:
https://i.imgur.com/yDhX3h2.png

[forest hinge]

how do you get this tap

[dapper prism]

1/day + % chance on how high you upgrade it

https://i.imgur.com/i3jKtLH.png

[gray schooner]

its the import item for 611B green bits

[forest hinge]

i see in gaming

[pliant warren]

The the best you can get is 2/day?

[gray schooner]

so do things like bog log and chemical plant help with getting them?

[dapper prism]

idk if/how hard it scales, like if people have it at over 100%? but each upgrade is only 1%

It's purely daily reset

[gray schooner]

too bad

[dapper prism]

Else the reset/risk wouldn't be as big of an issue

I'd love a higher fail rate but have chem/log work for it

[pliant warren]

And daily reset is actually daily, not just 24 hours of gaming garden time right?

[gray schooner]

apparently yes

[pliant warren]

Wait, what does the log do for the snail?

[dapper prism]

Nothing

[pliant warren]

Ahh, derp, you'd like the log to have some effect on it?

[dapper prism]

Would have been nice if it affected snail tickets, like chem with log. but that's not the case.

[pliant warren]

How does chem impact the log? Just that you're getting all the extra garden time?

[dapper prism]

Log has 22h cd, chem skips time and decreases log

A t5 chem will fully reset a log

[gray schooner]

so if you get lucky you can cycle chem and log a bunch

[pliant warren]

I'm a dumb. I was thinking of log book not the log import.

[dapper prism]

So it helps a ton to get some t5 chem (these are t4):

Random gaming tip:
Place your imports along a side, since plants dont spawn on them (except on snail) to force spawn plants closer together. Allowing for easier cactus on more plants!
https://i.imgur.com/dHgJQh4.png

[forest hinge]

about this cat do i ues it

[pliant warren]

Yeah, I'm probably not being particularly efficient, I just use them at T4. Although I am probably lagging behind on mutation chance so it's a lot easier for you guys to get T5.

[dapper prism]

Using cat is great early on, as it helps you get more genes faster, for easier mutations (more plant unlocks)

Also allows you to level up seashell ranks faster

[forest hinge]

ok

[gray schooner]

so when do you stop using cat?

[pliant warren]

I feel like he hasn't updated that spawn logic to know about the snail.

[dapper prism]

It's rough imo and a bit situational. Could always toggle it off before bed or if off a while, and just turn it on when around. But overall i just liked having it on until chem. Faster genes = faster chem which is the best plant

[gray schooner]

yeah, thats what i thought. i always have it on when im playing actively to generate more chems

[forest hinge]

what boost bit at the start i still have white bits in Q

[pliant warren]

Going to need to do some trial and error on the exact placement, but thank you for pointing out that you can use your imports to corral things into a smaller area.

[dapper prism]

yep, sometimes some plants will still squeeze their way into the gaps, but its still way less often. Also all imports can be moved slightly to the right, away from the wall

[pliant warren]

Does the shell change colour as it ranks up?

[gray schooner]

there are some decent sailing artifacts that boost bit gain

and each achievement gives you a 1.03 multiplier. so maybe work on some of those?

[forest hinge]

yea ok

[pliant warren]

Getting astonishgly lucky with the shovel helps too.

[dapper prism]

thats once you are 40 gaming, from superbits unlock

[pliant warren]

What's the best way to farm dice obols?

[forest hinge]

i am lvl 72 right now

[sharp wind]

is the plant evo bottom left able to evolve plant to t6? or no?

[gray schooner]

should be. does it say at mutation how often your plants can evolve?

[agile pagoda]

does mantra prayer stack?

[dapper prism]

yes, but it can suck early on

[agile pagoda]

how so?

[dapper prism]

Because 0 pts, and you care about pts. Even if you used mantra to 25 for vitalic you'd still only be getting half the pts as if u stick with focus. XP really doesn't do much for you at all early on, and you wont have enough xp multipliers to even get to 60 anyways.

So, you'd want to get the gods unlocked, therefore pts > xp.

See what i wrote in pins for more info

Also, Mantra does not get affected by double xp claim, essentially would make it worse than vitalic (if you're already 25+)

[agile pagoda]

nah, they aint lv 25 except for ES

[dapper prism]

You should have t6 like that, but keep in mind even with kitty on and like 5min cycle, skipping through 20-30 logs and Chems, you'll still barely even ever see a t6.

[dapper prism]

What god are you on atm?

[agile pagoda]

just unlocked the goat

[frozen mauve]

why can i not turn of the atom collider

[agile pagoda]

why?

[dapper prism]

I'd still just focus on pts until Tiger which gives 2x div xp/pts. Which would then make leveling easier and points. Like there's 0 benefit of getting pure xp right now.

[agile pagoda]

I don't really understand how the exp multipliers work on a 1exp per hour

[dapper prism]

1 exp per hour with a 10x exp multi = 10 xp per hour.
You'll over time get it to an easy 100-500x which is when XP starts rolling in properly

Either way, Points > XP as the only time theres an actual difference in points is at level 60 and 80, and going from lvl 1 to 60 is around 80k+ XP

Even just unlocking tiger god (you're at goat, so next is omni then tiger) will give 2x EXP+Points

[agile pagoda]

uh...... so how do I get that x250?

[crisp silo]

What x250

[agile pagoda]

this

[crisp silo]

Cause u gotta upgrade gods

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1127869805572137061/image.png

[agile pagoda]

what the.....

[crisp silo]

Or artifact

[agile pagoda]

isnt divinity gain just divinity points?

[dapper prism]

Level up god blessings for starts:
https://i.imgur.com/ciR2EcW.png

For points*

[crisp silo]

Uhh there are sailing artifacts for div exp

[dapper prism]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity exp

[crisp silo]

Im currently on an 261x multi

[dapper prism]

Those high multis are because your stance multiplies your base

[crisp silo]

Uhhh there is also the bubble

Big bonus

[agile pagoda]

Having trouble unlocking it

[crisp silo]

And the food

[agile pagoda]

food...?

[dapper prism]

Food, sigil, stamps, vials, bubble, ES talent. Just check the above link...

[agile pagoda]

I'm still at anvil rank 4

[dapper prism]

Food = Cooking

[agile pagoda]

oh

[crisp silo]

Vial

[agile pagoda]

well.... I can't unlock it yet cause.... currently stuck in pet skill

[crisp silo]

Maple syrup

Stamp

[dapper prism]

as said, just use idleon insight here: https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity exp

[agile pagoda]

that can do

[dapper prism]

always shows you everything that gives whatever bonus you search

[agile pagoda]

but...........how do I deal with this?

[dapper prism]

Same as every other wave

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[sonic moon]

I hate Molti Pets....

[agile pagoda]

So... I should be able to do it with them?

[sonic moon]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

KING DOOT COMES HOME!!!!!!

[agile pagoda]

nice

[agile pagoda]

I can't really get higher pets rn

[sonic moon]

After 40 fkn Molti pets

Now i just need rift slug

[crisp silo]

Enjoy your doot, i hope u only pull beans from now on (gimme doot)

[sonic moon]

Im jujst missing Slug and Ram 😄

[haughty cove]

try to get 6 pet slots

then do it

[agile pagoda]

ooh........I can try in arena!

[haughty cove]

you have enough power to get to even 200

10k pets are more then enough

just use the correct pet build then you ready to go

[dapper prism]

and set up shield properly and stuff, a little bit of rng and ezpz

[magic oyster]

Rift39 is quite a step up - 5bil SB and the healing guy just laughs in my face as I fail to get him under 90% heh

[agile pagoda]

in arena?

[haughty cove]

yah

[dapper prism]

Power doesnt mean/do much besides save time

it's all about the combo

[agile pagoda]

I don't have borger

Idk how to time shield properly

[dapper prism]

timing shield is just for spices. not for arena

[agile pagoda]

ok so I need borger now....

[haughty cove]

yup

btw

what does borger do?

[dapper prism]

Nothing really

[agile pagoda]

Fighting/Primary: Shoots 2 basic attacks, but would much rather have shot 2 burgers into its mouth
Secondary: When in combat, this pet has +2000% hp. Big borger, big health. @ When foraging, this pet contributes 10x more foraging speed if the territory above has at least one Forager type (the Green Leaf type) pet.

[dapper prism]

just 2 hits

yeh guess its just cause of the hp

[haughty cove]

ty man

[sonic moon]

question, since i got king doot now, with the bonus from Goharut and arctis i dont need to be in the lab Or the altar anymore right?

[dapper prism]

you do

thats not how goat works

[sonic moon]

I just get xp for divinity tho

[dapper prism]

Goat you must be active in the lab

[sonic moon]

ahhh but im just active in the mainframe right?

[dapper prism]

same how es with double god won't allow that

[pine pond]

just link arctis to everyone, then if you want goat gains etc, youll need to be in lab.

[dapper prism]

Not fully true

[pine pond]

hm?

[dapper prism]

so with doot you will have all except for purrmep minor

for tiger (purrmep) minor to work it still needs to be linked to someone

[pine pond]

oh

i didnt know that

[dapper prism]

So link that to your highest/best div class, probably your 2nd es

[pine pond]

then everyone else arctis so IE is accurate as much as possible?

XD

[dapper prism]

meh, just use toolbox more

[pine pond]

or that

[pine pond]

huge gains today bro, finish w3 deathnote and half of w4

[sonic moon]

god damn

[pine pond]

will be another 1-2 trill in a week

[dapper prism]

Not sure if sludger will touch ie much more, i see they added companions but that's about it. They removed the blacklist from the leaderboards and now also fully shut down the leaderboards.

[pine pond]

yup

[dapper prism]

gz, my ES hit this last night (4 months idle-versary)
https://i.imgur.com/arYpkqV.png

[pine pond]

11 trill?

[dapper prism]

that's 1.16

[pine pond]

oh

thought youd be higher

[dapper prism]

Higher within 4 months of playing?

[sonic moon]

i dont play a lot with others but is it possible to do a boss together?

like kattlecruk

[pine pond]

xD i started back in february

got bubo 1-2 months ago

i feel like im doing swell.

[dapper prism]

Yeh dmg starts jumping bigtime. was like 400-500m dmg a week ago then bang 1t

[pine pond]

all dreadlo tools, all magma, half of my toons have kattle too

100k atoms+ a day

[dapper prism]

Im time gated by salts still 😦

[pine pond]

ouch

[dapper prism]

But did setup most chars:
https://i.imgur.com/urrZ9rs.png

[pine pond]

now tools 😛

[agile pagoda]

so... how do you time shield in spice?

[dapper prism]

yeh got main tool on all, to think that 9/10 here had full chizoar and no dread tools 2 days ago...
(1 set of dread in storage for when i sampled)

[dapper prism]

shield needs to be where/when you get attacked

[agile pagoda]

and its a one time shield, right?

[dapper prism]

just play manually on spice map and test it a bunch of time

No it can block multiple stuff at once

[pine pond]

oh shot

people odnt have golden hampters

rip

[agile pagoda]

Uh...... it... seems hard to use

[dapper prism]

Looks nice and clean, slowly get those green guns to yellow at least, its ezpz

[pine pond]

oh yeah i will tommorow

[dapper prism]

well, not much anyone can do about that... you only really need to time the first hit for some maps anyways, then snelbie time freeze and gublin stuff deals with it

[pine pond]

once you get used to it, its easy

[pine pond]

last dreadlo skull will be tommorow 😛

[agile pagoda]

for some reason my monolith tends to be the only one that benefits from refiller

so then the combo gets screwed up

[pine pond]

welp goodnight guys 😛

[dapper prism]

same here, good night

[pine pond]

an easy hopefully 300m purple shrooms when i wake up

[ocean fox]

Does tranqi work for active characters

[radiant orbit]

yo boys in regards to this example would they all just be sitting in lab?? i assume this is meant for after you've cleared w5 on all characters 🤔

[true obsidian]

which is better to buy?

[radiant orbit]

well

1 you can buy 2 of and the other you can buy 5 of

those keychains are bis

[errant sluice]

you can unequip crystal spawn cards once the map is loaded right?

or does that just work with card drop chance?

[true obsidian]

card drop chance

[errant sluice]

:/

[true obsidian]

but where you farming?

and you want exp or boss key?

if boss key you don't need crystal card

[radiant orbit]

crystal cards = xp + gold food which is goated

u can't snapshot em

[verbal bear]

everything i lab unless you're playing active on bubo/es/DK then you take that 1 out ofcourse

I believe elephant on BB and put him cooking ofcourse

[tranquil surge]

wtf

does doot pet mean you dont actually need to unlock the gods to get the bonus either?

thats insane

[verbal bear]

i believe so, though you need div lvl 2+ on all characters

[tranquil surge]

i was wondering where the omniphau link bonus was coming from didnt realise till i just actually unlocked the god

thats like 5 mins on each character lol

[deep lodge]

Damn, that's a lot of xp

[verbal bear]

oh yeah it's not hard, it's just doot gets disabled if you don't have lvl 2 on the character

[tranquil surge]

so wait

is it even worth me progessing divinity now if my lab currently reaches everything and i have doot?

i dont have atoms for the minor link bonus upgrades

am very early w5

[verbal bear]

divinity levels still increases the minor link
But i guess you're not in a hurry now

[radiant orbit]

gotcha, guess im not ready just quite yet still got heaps of characters to move through w5 ty

[tranquil surge]

better put elsewhere like unlocking vman

[lyric sequoia]

Doot shouldn’t impact what you do at the very start of w5, it just speeds some things up

[verbal bear]

you could push 2-3 characters at a time and still keep hare on all in lab, then push those 2-3 with nobisect you'll miss out on omniphau though, shouldn't be the worst though once you've pushed you switch back to the meta setup

[tranquil surge]

oh

the 7th god unlocks an achievement

[lyric sequoia]

The passive bonuses from the gods are still very good which you can only level by unlocking them

[tranquil surge]

are the alternative particles worth striving towards?

idek what those are

[lyric sequoia]

Honestly just pretend you don’t have doot for a while and do early w5 stuff like everyone else. There isn’t any benefit to doing anything else sooner

[tranquil surge]

yeah just searched it up

[verbal bear]

oxygen lvl 1 > Boron > Lithium >hydrogen i suppose