#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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yupp just stamp and shrine, shrine mostly
I still prefer a bunch of the ui on ie, makes me have to use it, e.g. that stamp page is nicer. sailing captain upgrades etc.
yeh for a bunch of stuff, also more updated now
btw, whats ur money multi?
What's your crystallin stamp lvl at?
sec
240k to 280k depending on alt.
Only at 2b gmush
all dn is 100m except gmush + wurms are 2b xD
been grabbing all my missing monster mat greenstacks to help with vman damage zzzz
which is just impossible for me to lvl up any further
6 more to go
dam u need to work on ur mush kills bro
keep going, dont stop with mats
It's terrible unless you have a trade for infinite gold ๐
What is that
then it completely breaks your game and lava tells you off
its bad, might be a future update also since its that bad
Are you doing it on vman? 446m material cap is very low for him
there was a bug that let you trade gold for gold, getting infinite gold, and infinite damage from mask
Gold for gold
no man, i will not do it further... this is what i need for next unlock of lvls, and im tired of saving up the materials
but yeah, vman does improve inventory
Is the daily refresh time changed?
if you lag in game it physically pushes your game clock back - you have to cloud save a couple times a day to stop it getting permanently pushed back
The time on my timezone was originally 4pm but today changed to 8pm or something
eg, I started the game at 7pm on a friday, which was my daily/weekly reset. Due to lag over the year, it's now 10am on a saturday

glad im not in ur shoes ๐
Strange
9 days since last update, im guess new update this weekend
That's awesome. I'm close too
But mine delayed 4 hours in one day
yeah, nothing happens for ages, and if you leave it too long it jumps at once
soon as I finish that one, I'll send my BB back to work in the slave mines of world 1
I may give him candy, I may let him languish
If cloud saving now doesn't put it back in the right order there's nothing you can do to fix it, that's your reset now
doesnt matter does it?
Tried logout and relogin still the same
I'm not holding my breath for any new patch
well, its usually 1-2 weeks between patch/updates
feels like we are in strange times Zinder, so I'm just holding off on expectations
thats true, but ive put the whole doot stuff behind me, its not worth dwelling more on it
trickz where did u go, in the middle of our convo ๐ฎ
It's not just lag/server desync itself. think there's something else that adds to it, as mine was barely few mins off after these 4 months. Yet the other night it was just suddenly 2h later. didnt have any lag/desync, no spammed items on the ground. It just got a huge delay out of nowhere :/
It's worth dwelling, just not talking about it here
Snail level? Im at 9 with:
https://i.imgur.com/mE36APZ.png
Sorry, wife called me
gotta scroll up now and check where we lost the convo
quite a bit better but as your atoms can fluctuate a lot it can cause your damage to vary a bit
Sb is now at 7m kph, but everyone was stuck at wurms since last update. might even sometime soon just toss everyone besides active to gmush for a few days xD
Ahhh so best for dmg is crystal stake
Steak and by extension, socrates
As socrates increases your stats, and thus bonus from steak
The hippo?
lvl 12 as of today, ive spent a lot of time just lvling up my chances so i think i can go for 14 before i have to go back to lvling up the chances again
How good is each chance thing?
thats what i did, including a ton of candy. im at 130B gmush lol but i did it for 5 weeks o
Like im barelyt even bothered to click snail any further due to the 1 month setback xD
didn't know encouragement was kepts between levels
I'm just thinking what's better. to just focus gmush or now with my good rate to just 1b DN w1+
for the dmg buff
Also been focusing on upgrading everyones gear/weapons, all alts were chiz+blue, getting everyone to magma set/weapon but need to wait for green salt rank up (and some bars)
https://i.imgur.com/1yv8nq3.png
it drops down but u keep some of the investment
same, wanna see mine?
Just wanted to get everyone to magma gear/weapon + dreadlo main tool for now
Need to start doing 2min logins on Archers for the bars now xD
thats all im missing, rest of char is in full t5 and god weps
well it just proced
i havent done my dailies yet
Is there anything that scales directly off of total stamp levels?
rift chance to get 95% daily discount
haha xD
that was so 20 years ago
That was just terrible
i cant be super funny all the time, i have to have a few bad ones to keep myelf down on earth
yo trickz whats ur idleego at? mines at MAX
means it scales
with divinity level or skill level?
divinity lvl
My what?
ty โค๏ธ
ur idleego
oh ego? ๐
lol yeah
Guess it must be pretty high to get this far in 4 months 
Yes
nah
3/11
comn
You're right, 1 day off 4 months
i have taled to u for ages it feels like
Day i started idleon was the day i joined discord too
well, i have to say ur doing good
3/11 start idleon
4/3 w5
7/10 hit 1t dmg
Jesus
how do you know when you start?
Installed on PC/Steam, checked system files.
If youre on android you can go to account history too and see when you installed
oh cool 1/6 then, i hit w5 like 4 days ago
Damn high xD
Level mine, they are a bit time gated xD
also mac capped 15 others and now im focusing mainly on more dmg on my chars
i would if i could lol
heres all the stuff i dont wanna do
lol
We have the exact same left lol
hahaha
Just hide it in the options
If it's not showing up it's not a problem
Thing is, i could probably get them all today if im lucky?
https://i.imgur.com/glckSNz.png
xD
But my sailing luck has left me
Holy shit youre stocked
Never had to spend them, did all quests on everyone.
The rest are useless sorta anyway
nah... it doesnt work like that bro, its rng
True but that's still 7k chests ๐ฆ
how is that 7k chests?
32x150
Thats nutts
im glad im done with sailing
my sailing is on the shelf until lava says i need to get new artifacts
hmm, maybe
im kinda wondering about the fishing adventure update
is fishing finally gonna pay off?
I feel so soft locked on gaming ๐ฆ
Thank you so much chems ๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน
Small min max tip, rearrange your imports, since plants don't spawn on them anymore (except on snail?) you can squish the spawns making cactus procs easier:
https://i.imgur.com/vkUGuym.png
also wtf 200k!
didnt even see that initially xD
Oh thanks
Whatever chems is, I need it
how do get chems
Last plant mutation, just keep cat on for a while for easier genes
Is thr last plant, gives you hours
Ah, alright
200k nug... ive been on 65k for months lol
clearly he meant cheems instead of chems
Ive been on 10k for months and want to kms
I was lucky tbh, first i was in 600, 3k, 20k and now 198
I rolled a 10k in december and haven't even had bigger since
Finally some upgrade
Lol everyone getting nuggets.. time to check my spade ๐
I wish you the best
Been on 1.6k for a month now 
My hadn't checked on game in 30h, when I came in, my dailies hadn't reset and my daily reset time was moved by about 9 hours, wtf?
Oh right, easy nugget, #noPhotoshop
https://i.imgur.com/y2C48aA.png
Gaming been real.nice to me this week. Unlocked chem planta yesterday, now a 4x bigger nug
My daily reset has moved 3-4h aswell over the last week or so
Only haters would call it fake
Exactly!
You can see that u had this desync when active by cloud saving and reloading if u have instant afk time thatโs how much desync u had
Those.999 very real
I feel like that isn't always the case though

I've had hours (several) of desync at once, yet my game was only minutes later for reset.
Then some day on the days i had no desync i got like a 2h later reset.
I donโt mean thatโs the reset shift
Ah okay
Oh i donโt know if Iโve had shift without any desynced afk time before though
My daily reset has moved by minutes (or seconds) at a time by a couple of hours over the past couple of years. Never seen it not reset or move 9 hours before though
just 296 lvls to go ๐
https://i.imgur.com/92Dlkan.png
so close
cant wait for lava to double our obols (the ones we use choose to use)
Next pet companions lets go!
xD
I cant wait for faster sigils..
add 3 to 5 zeroes behind how long it takes to get sigils but allow cc to affect it ๐
its the slowest thing ever sigils, im closing on the finish line and i maxed the speed on the realease date lol
"getting close to the finish, only 200 days left!"
something like that lol
that reminds me, almost time for some golden gains
We are twins, but not proper twins!
https://i.imgur.com/GlLKTBR.png
nice lol
All im waiting for: ๐ฆ
https://i.imgur.com/xDGBx8N.png
Is this going to be a big change?
iirc most sigil bonuses are additive
Like, really strongly noticable
but gains are gains
its not really that much faster, but it helps in the long run
It depends on how many gem shop purchases you have as they're additive
do u have to die at the end of pet battle arena? im fighting 202 and still got like 45 minutes of block left :>
World 6 sigil is going to be "sigils get +x max levels" and you're going to cry
check ie and see if you have the bonus, if you do you can quit, but if you don't let it die
hahahaha lol...
We joke about how bad more sigil levels would be but it would unironically be really good
Half the sigils are useless anyway especially the later ones towards the end
will take years to finish new lvls
Pushing a good one to 3 would be way better than pushing a bad one to 2
Yeah but spending years on a good bonus is better than nothing
I love how divinity xp gain is the 2nd last one, but by the time you get that far, your divinity will be like level 200 on all chars xD
Who the hell wants to work on lab exp sigils or some other dumb stuff like that
should be way stronger when uve spent years on it lol
you're still months and months from w6 sigil ๐
when did sigils come out?
Give me more levels on the good ones
imagine if i can have sweet here...
months? easily a year xD
Random tip, did yoou know you can already place some alts into rift (dont login) and once u unlock the 5m kill quest u can login and their kills will be calculated at that point.
After you get gold food and afk gains to rank two you've gotten like 90% of the total value of sigils assuming you have the earlier ones at level 2 as well
didnt sigils come out like 2 years ago?
Despite being less than half way done with total sigil time
feel like 2-3 months after w4 was released
i'm placing my lab slave in here now
i need alot for all the note to be light up so eh
You can write down your login order. e.g. 10/10 at rift, then login to the lab nubs first, to get the nodes, then into the mains
oh so siglis are soon 1 and half year ago
10 kattle obols yet 1 pendant dropped so far ๐
this gonna take awhile
May i ask, DR and how many kills/keys?
2 emp rings, tena will be a waste of flurbo
^
but i can only afford 1 now
then you buy 1 now and another later. else you are wasting flurbo.
1 is better than none
so i ask if i should buy 1 EO or 2 tenacity
DR at 14.5~ / about 30 kills/day if active afk for half day and collecting from afks
Well you won't get rid of your EO anytime soon
any other good ring i can get?
That's like 2k keys a day? ๐
Tyvm ๐
hope the DR keychain do have rerun 
ive been looting around 3-3,5k keys a day
i think, i havent counted.. just feels like it
i have 16,8 dr
DK make 50+ keys p/h easily
i have like 10k keys i have to spend, sadly 10k isnt enough..
I just went from 15 gold mult to 23
gotten any of the kattle drops? throphy yet?
LF1M (warrior) for king doot .
How many bits do I need to get a green bit
Is Q after T?
Nothing yet, still need the last merit. my vman is at 25b dmg, could probably push him a bit higher then attempt it. I stacked up to 6k keys so ill see when i have some time
ohhh
ES or DK for key farming?
Dk wurms is better cause of the high hp
Unless maybe if you are absolutely juiced out of your mind on es
does this mean every skill in world 1 2 and 3 or every world 1 2 and 3 skill
how do u get rid of ads? like whats a good ad blocker or deactivation
idk, u get a lot on both, but ive felt farming keys with dk on tremor was faster than ES
okie
uBlock Origin is really good, available on chrome (for now? dunno if manifest v3 is done or not yet) and firefox (and probably others)
idk what they are talking about, patters something that doesnt fit
im using windows
microsoft
Is there a difference in those two options?
Microsoft Edge?
Should still be available there, Edge is based on Chrome
all skills in world 1 (so i guess trapping and worship have stuff there?) vs just w1-3 skills?
Worship and trapping are W3 skills
So I have arrived at the goat god, and when I click on it, I see a button that says "unlink" - does this mean I am linked to it automatically, and I can go into the lab now, and receive divinity gains at the same time? Because when I do and look at another char at the divinity info, the first char is not listed as getting any divinity points at all
it doesn't matter if you trap in W4 or W3 if that's your question
It's buggy
yes. i was trying to explain the possible difference in the way he phrased it
Yeah, it means the skills unlocked in what worlds, not where you use them
which part though? ๐
The displaying other character's divinity gains part I think
Could be an interesting buff, but a bit biased. Mining is only on W1 for example, while trees, everywhere
Chopping is a w1 skill, even though trees are in other worlds as well
Nah it will say unlink on any god
Tap unlink and a screen showing who they are linked to will show
If you were already linked to another god youโll need to unlink and re link
Oh that is good to know!
Also your player select menu shows the gods above them
So you can see who is linked to who when you go to pick a toon to play
im at 12x DR with full personal/family obols and all DR cards at 4* (except event one) dont have ruby cards unlocked yet is there any other way to increase my DR aside from the one yellow bubble?
Thanks @prisma drift ๐
Sb
its already at 20k kills
Get that 1m plunderous
20k is like 1 day since the vman buff lol
At least get 100k
Itโs a multi on your DR
Not an additive bonus so itโs huge
Iโm pretty hard stuck at 13.5x with the prayer on
Got to make a decent amount of account progress before I can get it higher
Keychains can give some dr
Lucky lad gives 7 can be doubled aswell you obviously want kattle trophy now tho
And thereโs a few shinny pets that give drop rate can probably get 10% out of that too
yea i have a few of those but only lvl 1
Think around 14-15 DR Is cap without crystal custard
So 12 ainโt that bad
And yeah Ruby cards will get you the 13 for sure
yea guess that confirms it for me
i knew about the other minor sources of DR but theyre all fairly small gains
You can craft new gear and +luck it all too that gives like some too
People do that on DK apparently
Just things to keep in mind if you want to really maximize it
full upgrade stone luck on the 2 divine pieces?
On everything pretty sure
oh interesting
I think going to like 10k luck is noticeable for drop rate
After that kinda diminishing
lol my dk is barely hitting 10k str...
Alchemy is the answer
Yo, just logged into my DK who is afk-ing at clammies and somehow my catching skill lvld up from 2 to 3 lol. Anyone know why?
killed the fairy nest
Ahh didnโt realize that gives xp
yeah, very small amount. but it adds up if you're at really low levels
Thought it was a hidden Doot mechanic
๐
Is it worth getting everyoneโs W1-W3 skills to lvl 30 atleast for the extra talent points?
Keeping them below maestro ofc
Yes once you do rift there are bonuses to skills based on your total skill level accross the account
and getting to level 30 only a few time candy
with the skill mastery system you unlock on rift, you more or less need to get everyone to at least level 100
Oo bet nice. What lvl did you start doing rifts?
whenever you get to the octopus map in w4
My highest dmg char is my ES lvl 155 14m max damage not sure if I should attempt rifts
you have a lot too do on your account if thats your highest both level and dmg,
Oh yea I know I only started in May lol
Been in w5 like 3 weeks and 2.5 of those weeks were div jail
rift is not really a mayor concern for you at the moment, you can test if you can do some of the tasks at your current power level but you have higher priorities than rift
rift is an "end game" thing but most of the early levels just requires some time the real DPS checks come in later
I'm just trying to get this recipe from lampars. Guess what drops instead? The damn traffic cone ๐๐๐
You can attempt it, but like the rest of us youโll be back and forth attempting it a few times as you progress more
Ok bet Iโll continue doing what Iโm doing then
Rifts are a do a little bit at a time thing
yeah, nothing stops you from testing and seeing how far you can get, even the first bonus is really good cause its auto matic trap claimer
so if you can even get that one is worth it
Oh shit nice, Iโll attempt it later after work then
I think my rift is at 17 and my ES and DK do 250M
Sheisty
I just need to go back and do lava skulls
But it would hamper what my goal is right now
I think theyโre all active except 20 which is 1m afk kills
Which I just put 1 char there for a bit over a day
Yeah it definitely isn't hard. I was going to hit that at the end of the week then set some people on farming eclipse skulls
Yeah farming eclipse will be another story lol Iโm not doing that yet
I have my last 5 in lab (1 being Bubo) but they'll all move to 1 mob at a time
True no doot so Iโll leave at least a couple in lab
And all those mats will feed into my Breeding
quick question, is there a way to look at the numbers from "no more praying" from gaming?
Like the 1/5th bonus?
yeah
That makes sense. Iโll probably fortify my material storage. So far done my splicing with a couple chars in shortest increments when I feel like making a push
I don't think so but I'd imagine you can put on any prayer and see if it affects certain things like exp gain
My plan is to do rift > eclipse skulls > splicing > breeding new pets > new spice setup and battle arena > upgrading kitchen
It's not. Its pretty horrible in almost every situation
Iโm done spices and arena just need lvls for pet power for speed in lineups
Splice pushed for snelbie and nutto and finished it really quickly
I still look at my pet lineup for spices and it's just getting some work
Just got that dang whale
How is your spice setup? Is it the mid/endgame one in the guide?
Thatโs basically where I pushed for the finish line splicing. Think I got really lucky from sand giant to snelbie
I actually finished in the past couple days and just did the last spice today. Started cleaning them up and removing fight power as far down as I could
I canโt even fight power the last one lol it needs 110k fight power
I'm stuck at frosty peaks
I basically need to pull 3 of the crossed sword ones at my highest level to power it
Yeah donโt worry about it until u get 6 slot then u can do all
What's normally your pet arena setup? I need to push to 50 for the 5th pet slot
!guide
Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
Lvl 39 so I need to revamp lineups, probably switch to shinies and gain a couple levels and then revamp lineup again
While also trying to get last spice going
Yeah the guide works. After using it I realized I never would have done it with my own lineup
Used the top one for 4 man, and rng for the 5 (tried safety and it didnโt work for me)
Or maybe it was eggshell I tried
The rng 4 pet lineup didnโt work either
It might still be out of reach for me but Iโm pushing for cotton candy unlock and I might be able to get the card doubler chip next week or at least 2 weeks after
I know it's quadratic so ramps up but god this feels slow
on what class are you on
When does it ramp up?
Almost done zow-ing w1 ๐
was just on my mage, I'd been advised it's one of the better sources of vman damage (for kattle)
Gonna zow w2 and go back to start chowing w1 for vman
yea was wondering for the scaling i saw someone saying the same thing it was a good scaling dmg for vman so i started today to atom ahah annd was wondering cause you were already a 7.39K and my only a 1.95K for 30 level diff
guess that shows it in action huh?
Do you use speed potions? That'll get yout move speed up nicely
ahh didn't realise that was a live value
Thought it was like, +x damage, more if you have more speed
yea i think those 3 are live values

what lvl poisonic becomes better than 16 boulder
ahaha on ES i never play with movement potion
bc my boulder on 16 rn
poison struggles from being really expensive early on
you mostly need the levels to make it cost effective early on
It's just that mine barely scratches Level 28, missing water droplets 
I found it to be usable at like level 20 poison
ohhh i see ahha tho my buble level is pretty low :/
What did you just say 
i mean compare to mage one
once you start producing atoms a lot of bubbles become trivial to level
yea
I feel like punching someone
Not that far yet 
hahaha dont compare too people way ahead ALOT of people could pinch my low level bubble ahha
being the worlds laziest gamer most of my alchemy gains came from nblb ๐
My guys, I've come a long way this last week....and after a lot of trials, tribulations and just plain and simply pain..... I just want to say one thing:
keep in my ive been playing since 2021
I finally got to wave 120 w3 TD, 8 enemies alive and it seems like it will take almost 5 hrs. Will that be a problem?
Go fuck this task
In the bloody ass, if that wasn't clear
One down, now just the pendant
Last week my last three chars weren't even on level 200, so I guess I shouldn't complain
I'm still working on my vman having damage, so good job 
tbf I'm at 40b, I could probably do it now
Where do I get this thing?
hmm guess I'll active my DK on wurms tonight to get some keys then
Purgatory stalkers
im probably doing something wrong cause i get more key with ES than DK
but i know i dont have that kind of dmg
tbh I think ES is closer than people are saying on key rate. The primary gains on DK for me are that I don't lose 2 hours of active to lag while he's killing ๐
So I killed 6 more enemies and the 2 boss wave guys remain. It seems that it will take me almost 3 hours. Could I encounter any problems?
extra 100 keys due to not lagging overnight lol
doing the mono defender strat?
It should work
i really need to upgrade my DK<s bag i keep getting lagging overnight vs my ES
Me?
yeah, the timestop spam to clear 125
Can I get some advice on my Elemental Sorcerer's gear? 
once it gets going it should be invincible
I'm talking about TD ๐
ah lol ๐ being dumb
I -think- there might be an internal failsafe that spawns the next wave (121) if you're on a wave too long, but I've never seen that activate so I don't actually know if it exists
Is there something I can upgrade or replace here?
Upgrading the rest to chizoar and getting a blankie would proably be your quickest upgrades rn
Did you hear about a specific time? 1h, 2h?

fraid not
I haven't unlocked Anvil tab 4 yet so that works out for me, thanks 
My calculations say I could beat the wave after 162 minutes
next armour after chizoar is troll which doesn't need earlier armours, so you're safe to make it
is it expensive to make?
I've noticed that it seems like gaming fertilizer for how much each plant gives seems to have random jumps where it goes a lot higher. Does anyone know how often that happens (or if there is any pattern there)?
yes, but nmore worth it than making green armour
like moving from chiz to lustre is just making yourself weaker and leading to a deadend
But it gives more defense 
is there a way to tell which char you have done rifts on?
for exampls in working on the third one where i need to kill all mobs before they respawn and i have 2/3 progress, which 2 chars are those?
Tbh I haven't bothered with checking if it shows up on IE or not but if you can't keep track of 3 characters doing a rift in one afternoon...
Just wipe the floor with them with 3 characters. Just gotta kill them all 3 times. Shouldn't take more than 20 minutes to do
ok so no, thanks
If it does, you're stuck upgrading characters anywhoos and you'll know because.. they didn't all die.
But if you got it on 2/3 you should be able to handle the third unless only 2 characters on your account were pushers/geared

I was saving up lustre bars
You'll still want a set for the slab at least so they aren't exactly wasted
You'll want to make it at some point for slab, maybe not currently but eventually
I completely forgot about Slab 
something like this, change out main stat:
https://i.imgur.com/Sq3vAJJ.png
I am probably going to replace main stat one with card chance for 5* cards sometime soon though
You can also toss in biggie hours if you dont have double afk claim chance at cap
75% is cap, archers will have it before other classes.
Big tips on that, get woodcutting first
When you do go for fishing, do the first zone fish quests from whale (daily minigame) and use baloons to get to the next portals.
My spade is on vacation, doesnt seem to budge
this is not my highest lvl dk but the bonus is in white so it means it adds up?
other tabs in red
Is it even worth farming the base form of the w5 boss with how low the chances are to get his good drops?
Becides grinding out the first form's card
Honestly depends on how fast you can kill the other ones
you get more keys back than you put in from first one
Can't even kill the other ones yet I believe ahaha
Well then guess you dont have much of a choice haha
But even doing the nightmare one, good drops still takes a long time
The other choice is to just hoard until I can, is why I ask. These chances feel horrible @.@
They will take a long time yo kill at first
So go for the normal one
The obols are pretty worth it
how do I get different bits
Also only the lst one can drop the wings
Like a trillion of a bit will be upgraded into the next one
didn't know they get this high
i think it scales with your cons level
it does
nice. any formula figured out? i'm at level 580 on my main dk
with highest con lvl or with con lvl of character creating cog?
highest\
sweet
I didnt realize I had to like.... update my cogs again and again as I leveled up :T
wtf is an ulti cog? are there cogs beyong purple?
nah, it's a purple cog
oh worm
I need something to do active xD
Wondering if i should do my 6k keys w5, with ES at 13x DR
is there a point to get lower level cogs after unlocking the purp ones?
why should I only have 2 ppl on board? and im assumings that my 2 dks
!guide
Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
What exactly does drop rarity do? Does it mean that if i have 5.14x, it would change a 1 in 100k into 5.14 in 100k dropchance?
yes
It also increases money at breakpoints
Oh, cool
which character is the best for the skull task in the rift?
i bought another excogia set and I doubled my build rate 
You got gems for years wtf
now remove all those other chars
they still contribute like 20% of my total build rate
4x 5x 7x 9x (every 2 from there) will give +200% money multiplier
That's so oddly specific
still losing out on cogs that give XP meaning slower levels
Sounds like lava spaghetti code to me
Why does ur first char not have a space in between trickz and bunny
Is a 1 dk or 2dk setup better though
i already got 3 in purple cogs so ima wait til i get some meaningful cogs to replace them with
most of my cogs are like 15-20% xp so replacing them for like 60% more xp is hard for me
350k build rate without them, 430k build rate with them
Can confirm, it's worth it
i literally bought the cogs so i can build lvl 5 automation arm faster ๐
kattlecruk aint giving me no damn drops today
why do i feel like endgame is just 10 characters farming kruk keys
my guy, it is
i cant wait
real endgame is realising you aint getting anything anyway so who cares
maybe lava will give us a hat for beating the game
bruh why do oranges drop so little oranges
wym they drop orange slices for days
i've been activing them for like 3 days on my es and still no 1.2m for the lava gear XD
whats ur damage bro
my dmg is shit bro
show me the stats
Is there any tricks to gaming? I don't seem to have made any progress in weeks
then ofc you aint getting them oranges hahah
im early/mid game still
Patience, lots of patience
yea i know, but other w5 mobs were dropping a lot more of their resources
oranges is the first to hit a brick for me
Realise that the base-value is the way to upgrade, the shovel is just a bait
Is it generally a slow process anyway?
That's early game? ๐
How do the artifacts from sailing work
It is, yeah
meh ive been active playing for like 3 months, had another ~3ish afk months in the beginning
passive when unlocked
this superbit is SUPER good, im not sure if you have it @brisk anvil
So the moai head guy just gives the same bonus as that thing from lab?
And generally artifacts of sailing help a ton
Don't even think I've unlocked superbits yet
no they arnt the same, read them both :d
My highest is almost full troll and level 300. Thought I was mid game. ๐ญ
Ah, yeah then just collect regularly, you'll get there :)
hahahaha
levels are ridiculously easy on active w5
Welcome to the earlygame my friend
my only high lvls are the wisdom toons because of active
that second bubo btw... lmao
They are. I have shit AFKing to build up Div atm. Got all chars to at least 200.
i stopped div after hitting flutterbis
i also got lucky with the last 3 gods by hitting them first try on 25%
Bad luck has me stuck on Purr.
how do you have less than 1b damage with 6.5k wis.
i dont have steak or last widsom bubble XD
i hit a brick wall trying to get steak now
Also need the damn arti for +25 library skills. Have points just stacking up. ๐ซ
im so sick of sailing, been dry for weeks
remove sb talent 11, spread your hampters, use sailing bubble, and check each alt ever 4-6h
i didnt have steak till 2 days ago and have same level mask also no last bubble but have 10b damage on my ES with 6k wis. I think you might have underleveled mage is best + severapurple
easy 50 chests each time
i have ~7 characters all on elephant + gaming at heart + sailing at heart, each with royal turban and 350ish gummy candy bear
i'm checking in every 2hrs for sailing procs
i've been dry on artifacts for like 5 days
its insane
why remove it?
i had first 6 eldritchedbefore i even reached for steak btw, took way too long to getit even with the artifact one eldritched. chance plummets
my mage is best already costs like 50m green caps each level
the other one is only like lvl 70
havent even touched rift yet
because you lose # of boats in loot pile and only gain extra captain xp
max loot pile 30, + 20 boats = 50 loot pile without talent as your boats go out one more lap and bring an extra chest to the docks
hm, i didnt know that
i thought i was just losing time as theyre just standing there on the beach
but i dont have 20 boats yet
I got 15 upgraded boats and 1 that hasnt gotten any upgrade
doesnt really matter, you probably dont have 30 loot pile either, so it comes down to if # of boats as loot pile is beneficial or not, in most cases it is
think my max loot is 20
i would highly suggest you go for it. it boostedmy progress by a s.t ton
how? the only thing that i see affecting damage there is infinite star signs?
still beneficial, 20 pile with 15 boats would make ur pile 35
also ofc eldritch artifacts but im not sure i can reach it
every 2 hrs?
No, whatever your laps are
Wait spur cogs exist and are just plain lame? :T
isnt the lap minimum 2hrs?
1B deathnote eclipse is big for dmg
yeh i didnt say 2h?
Only one id get eclipse is gmush
wurms will get eclipse too soon once u start farming keys
Each one makes the next easier
i know i have to do it i've just been postponing it because im not sure i can reach high levels of it
remember to superchow rift early on or else youre stuck at low kph
i had 2m+ kph at rift 31 and pushed to r41, had to superchow at like 600k kph instead
lmao if i want to get 1b kills at green spores, thatll take me 2200 hours
You should easily get 1m+ kph with w5
at what point can i get eldritch artifacts again?
Well yeah but only with my ES
r31*
Gmush farming is done with SB afk
31 not 41
woups typo, yeh
infinite starsigns help + skill bonuses help with sampling > ucan use atom collider to spam level the gmush stuff + eclipse skulls at this point is only 2 for me so not much gains from there + eldritching the early damage artifacts gives extra boost. but mainly its sampling higher thx to passive cards and profiting from that
eclipse 5% dmg is multiplicative btw
Passive cards itself are already amazing af
Ooooookay miracle chests are nuts, huh?
gem shop? not really worth it unless you're like a big time whale i guess
but 99% of the stuff in the store will be better than that
1 single one just hit the music island, which I wasn't bothering with after unlocking, since I'm working on eldritch speed artifacts first. It gave me enough to push the second to last ship to level 109 off the rare drops alone
not quite on it's own, 80 levels on it's own, but still
Its nice, but you split your ships anyways, and have the slowest ones hitting lower islands while fast ones hit the highest islands. Else you get "stuck" with all low content done (if you focused all boats there) and then half your ships would be useless for a while.
But even then, thats just a short term jump that's very rng based compared to most other gem shop items
ucan use atom collider to spam level the gmush stuff
what do you mean by this?
alright. hopefully one of you rolled multiple doots and will be willing trade with me for a slug or ram or custard. i'm out of money to roll anymore.
is a double cloud discover captain any use? or would cloud/loot value be better? similar % values
Does anyone have the Chest tiers?
Sailing chests
Cloud loot.
wiki
Doing them offline?
activing
Candy?
Bahahaha thanks 
I get vman after this right?
I just unlocked my vman today and I just used candies for the mushrooms. Got the whole quest chain done in 5 minutes lol
Oh yeah I used the 72hr candy from the previous quest and I've been questing on bm to get more candies
argh it never ends
forfeit and restart?
as soon as I go into the world I get 0/6 sheep
tried 8 times
even opened and close game twice
I would've finished the vman quest like 2 hours ago if it worked
noooo another one
Read what the guy says lol you are failing the quest by getting 6/6 sheep
..
Forfeit the quest and restart
Can I buy this? 
5/6 even will make you fail
Idk I just remember not to hurt the sheep lol
ye ik
Not ... yet?
it starts at 6/6 and when I start the quest it immediately goes to 0/6
No, lol.
no idea why
how about artifact/speed or speed/loot value? again, similar %
Green is a magnitude indicator.

So after Grey ... I think it's Q, ou'll go to green.
1/96 crystal chance and drop rate 5.6 netted me.. 6 pens over 7 hours
In what sense?
Early on speed is good to get to the higher islands, but over time loot value takes the spot a lot better.

No choco chip? also you on DK ?
choco chip is op
i had to buy 28 chips to get choco chip
early on, do I want loot value or artifact % more?
damn how much gem is that
more than my doot cost
ye
385 each chip
1/22 chance
waiting for a good bundle
before i buy Some gem, then ill have gems
Need to try to get to choco chip for sample on a void run. ๐ฆ
Is Sampling on a void run bonkers after you cast the void radius Skill?
what do people do with sailing after all eldritch?
Sure is.
f waiting for my CD
lol
Watch Untitled and millions of other Legends of IdleOn videos on Medal, the largest Game Clip Platform.
Makes sense. But yeah it's absurd.
quest is just bugged
Normally a little over 1m green spore samples too.
what in ad nation is that, just use shareX xD
i remember reading a how to do it without bugs on youtube comments
you wouldn't be able to see it go from green to grey then
quest starts at 6/6 how it should then instantly goes 0/6
not sure how shareX relates to that?
what Does the alchemy Speed Stamp boost again?
sharex takes a pic
but yeh i see the instant thing.
is it the rate of liquid?
it's because of sheepie follower, swap it out and the quest will work
there's 2, one says alch speed the other says exp.
I thought speed was both?
i think brew speed
theres a stamp just for liquid regen
weird?
so once you get on a chem spree do they just keep going? I'm 20+ chems deep
my hand hurts from clicking
Kinda, especially with kitty on
lol got a lvl 5 without kitty
lvl 5 will skip a full day, basically resetting log
nooo it won't stop, the amount I have is going up
Slab it
ah right
oh nicee, @vagrant mountain thanks
ok had to stop, need to sleep lol. Tomorrow me problem
Trickz and Sakori still here, thought you guys were purged too
Awesome, thanks 
I'm an asshole but am good at avoiding bans ๐
Pretty sure specifically it takes your death note count so you can do it ahead of time
No idea how I'm still here, I even posted the thing
Nah I'm mostly a good boy, made some memes, had some fun, but didn't do anything angering
but it is midnight and I need to get up in 6 hours, ciao!
click the npc
oh I gotta bring stuff for his quest?
his quest is the one that drops the rope
Why it look like that
vman
Oh, never tried Speedrun
you can use teleport
Like did you walk all the way from w1 boss to w2?
no....I would never
I did it. 47 poison and 42% atom. Feels good
Not gonna be able to VMan print my last two mob vials ๐ฆ
thats really high poison, also the atom wouldnt affect anything there since atom is for levels after 50, no?
I just always assumed that was for the class Wizard, not the towers?
its tower wizards, like why would it buff wizard class in particular
Wizard is the class that has the skills for specializing in worship.
So in my head made sense that it was a bonus for it.
but atom is construction if any
Eh it's just what I thought. But cool that it helps out my weak little towers!
Lava just didnt have text room to say โtowerโ at the end
Just seemed like a choice. Said Wizard Towers twice, and Wizards twice. Seperated them.
Thought it's all tower dmg?
wow alchemy Speed Stamp legit doubled my brew Speed upon unlock and leveling
lava treats those little tower wizards as human
You raise the level of the tower, but wizards are the one doing the actual damage dealing
Also, 120 td for first zone can be done at sub 40, use the 130 td pic on !guide its way easier than the 120.
If you ever need to redo it for some reason
I would undoubtedly do it
First zone? Goblins?
yeh
I'm talking w3 ๐ฆ frosty
ohhh ๐ฎ
Sorry ๐ฆ
Np bro, that's what you get for looking up to others I guess
forgot about the 120 frosty, usually when ppl mention 120 it's in reference to green ones
I think I won't touch any td now for at least a month. Took me way too long. Off to bed now, bye ๐
Jfc. So I just finally got the diabolical gauntlets for my vman. Don't have the recipe for the next tier yet. Checked the wiki and saw that 500 hampter cost... lol
Whats the best mode to get Chizoars blanket drop?
normal
Yeah takes a bit of time lol
Thanks~
Good thing I was already grinding for the other weapons. Might hold off on them though lol.
I would honestly hold off on the fists. You'll get more overall bang for your buck with 5 weapons for others than 1 for him.
You're probably right. But at the end of the day 500 is more to get than for one. My ES is farming quite a bit a day. It won't be long now lol
Fair enough!

finally -- got it with 779
what does the MSA totalizer do?
Various bonuses from every 10 waves done on worship
What should I do before logging into my characters with 3000 afk hours lol
thx
You get more bonuses through gaming fourth tab
anyone have a list of all the sources of droprate in the game?
!dropchart
Well you can't do anything if you haven't logged in
its old but ye
I hope you got good pouches or you ain't picking up shit
17 dr?
The one benefit of the ram pet... pouch size doesnt matter for drops anymore
True
If he logs into his first character
And free pulls ram
He's in the money
I wonder how many lucky lads he has waiting for him with a year of afk on 10 characters
they pretty easy to farm though?
If you're a gamer sure
Wish there was a separate storage option for trophies and hats
I wish I had more storage in general
I'd love to collect every hat in the game and make them premium over time
I wish hat premiumifier was a bit cheaper or a bit more expensive but unlimited
250 is bit rough for 1 of every stat
Agreed... but I hate losing out on stats just to destinguish my lab nodes or wear a cool hat that isnt the best in slot helmet. (So boring when every character just has the same best helmet
Yeah I hate base helmets
They're kinda ugly
I love my wizard hat + the % all stat is baller
kattle helmet looks pretty dope
you got it?
I haven't seen it in game yet
An example for me would be like troll helm
I also have a hard time justifying just buying the premium hats for gems that could go towards more useful items or QOL in general
just looks wrong
true
wish I could use candies in w5
it's a sad time, w6 come soon plz

I hope theres a lot more time. Im having trouble getting good damage output on my characters to get through world 5 and would love to be able to experience the world at the same time as everyone else. I have been consistantly a month or two late to each world after world 3
Idk i felt like dmg in w5 just skyrocketed
sailing and gaming do that tbf
yes of course ๐
It did. I beat world 4 with maybe 400k damage and then world 5 pushed me to over 1 mil. But those are all still very small numbers in comparison
even has a little skull floating above your head
that's not bad tbf
just realized this stamp finally has a use again xD
https://i.imgur.com/GlwCESB.png
if you want to know where all the bonuses can come from, you can search terms like drop rate, drop rarity, drop chance on idleoninsight.com to see all sources
On the last w1 monster for zow letโs goo, should be done overnight
W2 starts tmrw
thank you!
On a side note, got my DK from lvl 120-140 today just from active afking all day while working lmao
does anyone know if the infinite star signs work if you havent even bought them
they do
if you want to double them with the lab chip you need to have them unlocked and selected tho
thank you
anytrick for vman/blood berserker to kill nightmare boss? they have so low range...
i had to only focus mobs then when the aoe skills went off get some hits in on the boss
yeah, i can improve blood berserker dmg via equipment and weapon but my vman is max out :<
you could prob do it but may take like an hour or more of that roation on vman
full boss set + weapon
just come back to it later with more dmg
Upgrading my stamps, amazing pet companion would be to allow stamp mats to be inside storage xD
dont need to rush
don't know how to get more dmg for vman
mainstat, eldritch steak, skillage dmg, stat%
Vman damage is the same as everyone else. Eclipse skulls and alchemy
eclipse good
Those two will be the biggest ways to push damage on every class
can you 90% tag it to the point you can atom it
Keep vial, use 90% discount and easy atom
they have 90m already so it should be very easy to get to atomable
u right
Just went from around 6.5k stamps to 8.4k ๐
lol guess i need to squeeze in 2 more levels..
https://i.imgur.com/DlisMlk.png
niice i did the same yesterday and got to like 9.2
I could get it higher if i used maestro but its currently a bit of a mule with holding random items xD
The base damage bubbles will likely give more damage than the luck bubble will. I wouldnt worry about that one too much
So had an item cap of ~40m instead of 125m
Just drop them on the ground, do the stamp, and pick em back up
my glided stamp luck is so bad :<
Yeh was thinking that initially too, ill probably just do the last 2 stamps from crafted items rn and do that another day though
almost there
Got zero lucky lads lol
nuts
Im yet to get one actually which I think is crazy
a lot easier from combat once u do active stuff with dk
we need a bonus for each 1mil sock killed like gmush XD
And floms, rams, and snelbies for those old farming mecca
For real, i have 100m on all the stuff from superchow then gmush and wurms at 2b ๐
yea forgot about those good old days


