lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper prism]

Until you hit w5, since hp on wurms is so high, dk gets better at key farming than es

[vagrant mountain]

btw what do I farm in W2 for dice obols?

[opaque sun]

ES can technically get more keys than DK, but that is going to need lot more damage

[cosmic tendon]

Even with really low portal lvl?

[opaque sun]

So for the average player, DK best for keys

ES isn’t that dependent on portal durtaion than say DK’s orb

[dapper prism]

Just dice technically snelbie afaik but i prefered pots for the glass for stamp upgrades. 2 in 1 kinda thing.
Also it's mostly from crystals so max out crystal rate, cards, chip card doubler, choco chip etc.

[vagrant mountain]

1 / 63 crystal spawn is decent?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I moved around w2 maps for secondary goals. Maxing snelbie card first

[opaque sun]

if you have choco chip its decent

[cosmic tendon]

I think that should be good

[manic moat]

So I saw lava get the RCE helmet on a live stream awhile back by saying something in chat. I tried it and it didn't work, what needs to be said?

[cosmic tendon]

Ur gonna have more dice obols than u need

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i spent more money in this choco chip than i did for doot

[dapper prism]

u got card doubling chips? and crystal cards maxed?

[cosmic tendon]

And be fragging them to combine

[viscid sandal]

Fr bro, i've spent more tryna get the dmg chip, and still don't have any lol.
Got all pets in less than 50 rolls

[vagrant mountain]

dont have card double chips, after rolling for choco chip i told myself id never buy another chip

[cold jackal]

should i give up on divinity for a while now?

[dapper prism]

next card doubler in store in 3 days btw

[viscid sandal]

Just pray harder

[dapper prism]

Looks like you arnt using focus stance?

[bleak gazelle]

Just win the 1% chance?

[vagrant mountain]

shit i hope i can buy it with my shitty spices

[zealous niche]

Have a look at the info tab for what you can do to increase multipliers

[cold jackal]

i only have chakra unlocked atm

[vagrant mountain]

can you link me the chip sheet

[opaque sun]

Stand under w1 town portal bird and say “give me hat” was the requirement to get hardhat

[cosmic tendon]

It’s w4 pins

[viscid sandal]

srsly tho, keep at it and it will get faster.
you'll unlock better stances and it just snowballs

(i'd swap if you needed your characters to push something else tho)

[dapper prism]

and still looks like you arnt using it or have multiple people out of div

[vagrant mountain]

ty

[opaque sun]

Not sure if its still available tho

[dapper prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978

July 12-19 for Card double chip

[cold jackal]

main guy is out killing tv's atm

[pulsar cliff]

It is, ty for crossing something off my slab lol

[cosmic tendon]

It’s back 2 weeks later

[dapper prism]

To get another one, dont skip them 😄

[cosmic tendon]

I probably won’t make it within the next 10 days ☹️Need to update kraken print and see

[viscid sandal]

swap to harriep too, see if that'll help shove you up there

extra 3x prints (if not already)

[cosmic tendon]

If I subtract the 100k already in my chest I only need to print 9.9mil

[bleak gazelle]

I won't be able to get either one

November for me 🙃

[cosmic tendon]

Because of krakens?

[vagrant mountain]

damn im 7 tiers of spices away from the one needed for card doubler

[dapper prism]

spice gets easy to unlock once u have snelbie though

[cosmic tendon]

U do a lot in one day though

[thin rose]

just discovered the best hat

[cosmic tendon]

It’s a question of where ur unlocks are at

[bleak gazelle]

yes...but also because i've unlocked neither the meal nor the spice for it

[thin rose]

should've used my prem helm on this

[dapper prism]

Yay another cape 😄 (w2/3 complete) no luck with w1 😦
https://i.imgur.com/1oAjaCV.png

[bleak gazelle]

gdi super reactions

[cosmic tendon]

That’s just a question of unlocking snelbie basically

[vagrant mountain]

damn somebody stop this guy before he gets all the capes

[thin rose]

-250

but we move

[cosmic tendon]

And ladling the s out of the recipe lol

[dapper prism]

Where was the meta use for the royal turbans?
where one uses the mystery stones to increase gold food effect here etc
https://i.imgur.com/9SrkIud.png

[cosmic tendon]

Did u w2 arena tickets?

[opaque sun]

royal turbans on all non war to raise the chance of golden hampter

[thin rose]

Doot you on the game?

[vagrant mountain]

ya

[thin rose]

wanna help a homie out

with the lure a person for snaken

[opaque sun]

war should be able to reach 100% chance without royal turban, but if not, use on them too

[vagrant mountain]

what i gotta do

[dapper prism]

with how many hampters roughly? im around 3-5k

[thin rose]

just come to my world, stand beside snake and say "Hi"

[opaque sun]

Like 100k ish or so i think

[vagrant mountain]

what world

[opaque sun]

Also varies by if you have sheepie or not

[thin rose]

cake 10

[leaden karma]

it says 82% lower cooldown but the cooldown of my cranium cooking is still 44k is cranium cooking OG cd that long?

[dapper prism]

Are all hampters mostly just from CC?

Or now DK key farming?

[opaque sun]

Now that we have divine helm, its not the bis but royal turban is still good for most afk activities

[thin rose]

Doot the homie

💕

[opaque sun]

Most gold hampter is from DK farming

[vagrant mountain]

i got u

[dapper prism]

Okay, and which mystery does one use?
https://i.imgur.com/vXoMyB8.png

Like, is it always only a max of +1% per stone making the left the best?

[opaque sun]

Just mystery I as it doesnt fail

[dapper prism]

Or can higher mystery give more%

[opaque sun]

And you dont really care of base stats on it

You can only roll up to +1 on misc even with mystery iii

[thin rose]

you keep these?

wait why

[opaque sun]

So not much reason to use higher tier mystery stone that just makes you need to click more due to failed attempt

[dapper prism]

stamp

[thin rose]

stamp?

[vagrant mountain]

theres a stamp?

[cosmic tendon]

Ya

Stat graph for 1

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/zdq6IsT.png

[vagrant mountain]

i collect them with the copium thought that I'm gonna green stack them one day

[thin rose]

tf is that from?

[dark moon]

cattleprod i think

[vagrant mountain]

i assume from one of those stupid pigs

[opaque sun]

Like check wiki

[thin rose]

o

[dark moon]

pretty sure it's "1 star this game sucks"

from P and S chars

yeah

[dapper prism]

not even a hard one too

[thin rose]

Im missing s

so thats why

[dark moon]

I haven't done it yet either because it's cancer

[cosmic tendon]

How?

I’ll give u s rn if u want

[thin rose]

O:

I would humbly accept

[dark moon]

damn let me swoop in too

[modern plaza]

yes daddy i want it

[thin rose]

time and place and i'll be there

[cosmic tendon]

Grommet 5

The far right server

[thin rose]

w1?

[cosmic tendon]

Sure w1 in town

[modern plaza]

oh shit wait one sec

[thin rose]

[opaque sun]

remember to drop on ground once to register for slab

[vagrant mountain]

shit is it too late f or me to jump in? m

[thin rose]

o

[dark moon]

absolutely GOATed

[vagrant mountain]

ty

[thin rose]

now I need to unfilter them

lmao

[modern plaza]

you are god

[vagrant mountain]

boogie is a legend confirmed

[thin rose]

^^

[dapper prism]

Finally my first w4 boss obol... How/what do people do to farm keys to have a ton of these?
https://i.imgur.com/CDtx3Pr.png

[dusk sedge]

Hi, i already asked that in w4 question chat but havn't solved the problem, i'm supposed to have more infinite star sign actives right ?

[dapper prism]

They give specific stars i believe? So all inf star sign mobs to 5, except squirrel to 6 (to unlock every star)

[dusk sedge]

i see, maybe, but in this case why does squirrel and pig are over 11 star sign and there is just 11 actives ? not 12 or 14

[dapper prism]

No clue, click 2nd page of starsigns and check if u have stuff there?

[earnest lotus]

anyone know how we're supposed to kill chaotic kattlekruk with voidwalker? seems impossible lol

[dapper prism]

get better dmg, simple

[pulsar cliff]

Patience

[dusk sedge]

checked and nop, i would have posted the second page too if there was anything in it

[pulsar cliff]

Rotate sides a lot.

[heavy moth]

if you can 1 hit mole just focus moles till aoe up then attack boss repeat for 20 min

[earnest lotus]

i see.. thanks

[heavy moth]

how much dmg you got and do you mean nightmare or your vman is in the first 7 caract so you gotta do it for chaotic too

[dapper prism]

chaotic should really not be a big issue

[heavy moth]

yea definetly otherwise you are really screwed for nightmare ahah

[earnest lotus]

i have 11383m damage on my voidwalker, and yeah im tryna kill nightmare woops

[dapper prism]

more like, dont even bother with it right now

Just call that 11b dmg

and nightmare people say 20b+ dmg will take like 40 minutes. else aim for 80b dmg or so

[heavy moth]

i was lazy to upgrade my vman and did mine at 20b in 25 min

11b is doable but probably near 1 h fun

[dapper prism]

easier to just wait a week and get that up to 20b

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah I'd just wait lol

[heavy moth]

yea haha

[earnest lotus]

is the best way to upgrade vman damage still just skilling? im not really sure on how to focus on upping its damage

[dapper prism]

Alchemy, as usual

[pulsar cliff]

I haven't done a TD run in ages. This'll take a bit

[heavy moth]

Vman got the buff of tghose 2 so i would just focus to boost his luck on alchemy

[dapper prism]

apparently only 1 of those works, think purple

[earnest lotus]

ah i was about to ask what to upgrade, thank you

[dapper prism]

since the gaming one has fists
https://i.imgur.com/TxupMzk.png

[fathom lagoon]

Almost done zow-ing w1 and wow my damage is going up like crazy

[dapper prism]

but not in orange

[heavy moth]

really big rip

[dapper prism]

Probably easy to test though and double check

[heavy moth]

damn just used my atoms upgrade of the day ahah would have tested it

[earnest lotus]

i just checked, both orange and purple work for journeyman

i mean vman woops

[dreamy merlin]

I just got goat on a 10%!

[opaque sun]

its worded for both, but one of it was not coded to work on vman

Usual lava coding

[cold jackal]

oh the humanity

[dapper prism]

cant candy in w5 or rift

[vocal flower]

Yassssss

[dapper prism]

Gz!

[heavy moth]

i wonder if he will ever have those codes fix

[dapper prism]

changing out a few words in the db, nawh

[short gale]

Is there any reason to claim sail afk time or sail chests on seige breaker

[dapper prism]

unless you dont have its talents active (on your 2nd sb ig)

[lavish cloak]

Claim every 2 hours is the only way to be better at sailing.

[dapper prism]

Nawh 4h if u bought all piles

[short gale]

@dapper prism i don't understand what u mean

agree on 4h claims tho

[opaque sun]

claiming on the character with highest div levels somewhat adds a bit more purrmep bonus

Not like 2-3% speed matters tho

[short gale]

like 3.8hrs with reduced minimum sailing time

[dapper prism]

SB has the talents for xp gain in sailing + captain.
So you don't need to claim it on SB itself as it counts for all chars. As long as you have the proper preset turned on. Usually SB 1 will be doing gmush or something, and your sb2 (including dk2/es2) will be on skilling talent presets stuck in div/lab with the sailing/gaming/div bonuses on

[dapper prism]

even then once u have it maxed you wouldn't fill all spots in 4h. 20 boats, 30+20 pile => 50 pile so two laps would only get you to 40/50

[fathom lagoon]

Bruh I just failed 20 w4 armor stones in a row

[little harbor]

Just got my vman. what should i be focusing on for skilling? i feel like i am really suboptimal at this portion of the game

[fathom lagoon]

How the fuck is that possible

[opaque sun]

for ultimate min max, its best to claim sailing on a mage with highest divinity level using big p to squeeze out every inch of speed bonus of purrmep’s minor link

[lavish cloak]

I bought all the piles and have 29 max (missing achievement for trading 777 gold) where are you getting 10 more?

[short gale]

oh f, i have my 2nd sb grinding gmush

[dapper prism]

(for starters thats 20), its because you use SB talent 11 which imo kinda sucks. You get more captain xp but miss out on 20 piles. and quantity of chests > stuff

[opaque sun]

777 achievement adds more treasure item per chest, not chest cap btw

[lavish cloak]

If i exclusively click once every day, isnt sb working a little bit better for me?

[dapper prism]

Having SB talent 11 (bottom left) makes your boats continue to go back and forth, losing 1 loot pile slot "for the potential to upgrade a chest" which is minimal. You do gain more captain xp though due to the boats going back and forth.

Removing SB talent 11 allows the ships to dock with an extra chest once the pile is full.

[worldly bluff]

Make Alchemy Attempts stack 2023

[opaque sun]

When you use unending sailing, you lose 1 chest cap, and also lose the 20 ablative “waiting at the dock” effective chest space

[lavish cloak]

Gotcha

[dapper prism]

Depends on your goal i guess. I'd still prefer 50 chests over 29 chests.

[lavish cloak]

That makes sense

Sounds good. Thanks for explaining that out for me

[opaque sun]

unending is trading off chest space for exp basically

[short gale]

sail exp is the new construction exp

jk jk

[dapper prism]

Also even if you only claim once a day. It's technically more often once you spread out your gold hampters and once you have sailing alch bubble, or if/when you use omni div god. Since each alt u login will most likely proc another sailing. Each giving 50 chests instead of 29

[lavish cloak]

Yeah. 50 chests x 2-8

[wet hatch]

Is the the best food layout for speed runs?

[lavish cloak]

I do movement speed

Get him to 300%

[dapper prism]

yeh that movement is very low there..

[tight ridge]

just got this is this best skull for active chars?

[wet hatch]

I thought it capped at175 for non archers

[lavish cloak]

Its okay, but the thing its an ingredient for is ACTUALLY the best.

[cosmic tendon]

Best skull for slab and crafting the other skull

[short gale]

there are buffs that cap at 175% but you can increase through other means

[tight ridge]

ooh whats it an ingredient to, whats it called

[dapper prism]

its just for the highest worship skull

[cosmic tendon]

Dreadnaught skyll

[wet hatch]

O... so just speed pots?

[tight ridge]

what drops the recipe for it

[cosmic tendon]

U lose charge speed equipping slush skill

It’s just on tab 5 I think?

[dapper prism]

wiki xD

[short gale]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=movement speed

[tight ridge]

ah i dont even have tab 5 yet xD

[dapper prism]

You just get it, afaik, its not a recipe drop

[short gale]

sorry Kit, this is the better list: https://idleoninsight.com/?search=^(%3F!.*(for every)).(movement%7Cmove).(speed%7Cspd)

[wet hatch]

I got to 294 with the 4 speed pots, I'll try that tomorrow

[lavish cloak]

Check out tab 5

[gray thicket]

Now I understand why I see people at Lv. 400

I leveled up 23 times in 15 hours

[tough tusk]

also leveled up grinding time bubble

[short gale]

sorry, how does sb tab family bonus (minimum sail time) and The Family Guy interact? Shouldn't the 2nd sb be claiming all afk sail time?

[gray thicket]

Did you just say "Time Bubble"?

[tough tusk]

i said the bubble (grind time) yellow active bubble which can get your class xp by a lot if leveled up

[tough tusk]

its also isnt that much i remember before w5 came out it was very fast to lvl your bubo to lvl 200+ in w4

[gray thicket]

I haven't leveled that you yet!!

It's lvl 4

[cosmic tendon]

Can anyone send/point me in the direction of there picture that shows which bait/lure to use for sampling each fish?

[cosmic tendon]

Thank you

[fast grail]

Optimal gear

I may be taking this defense meme too hard

[wraith granite]

can i connect to Purrmep with my wizard's second link skill? i tried last week after i unlinked a char from purrmep but it didnt work. It would still tell me I can't link to that god twice even though there was no one connected to it

[fleet mural]

Nah

I tried it and it isn’t possible

[wraith granite]

aw sad

thanks

[stuck pasture]

Dropped before the pendant, any good? What are people using them on?

[viscid sandal]

those look dooppeee

[gray thicket]

And I ask myself: How?

[fast grail]

just have to hit every single kruk stone on a +1 slot steel band, total of 5 stones

[gray thicket]

Kruk? I'll just go look it up now

[fast grail]

chance for me was like 63%, so getting 5 in a row was like a 10% chance to hit, but went through 20ish before

[lavish cloak]

Great for maestro

Skillup

[gray thicket]

185? pro

[fast grail]

Not really, but trying my hardest to keep up with them

[lavish cloak]

2700 keys per neck drop does that

[modern plaza]

u had the quest right??

[fast grail]

Need to properly start farming keys so i can get necklace, i dread the day when my vman can do nightmare reasonably and i have to start farming the necklace for everyone

[lavish cloak]

Vman nightmare kill took what felt like an hour and a half

[edgy pine]

O god i saw the person with two free doots and I’m now questioning everything

[lavish cloak]

Two doots? Free? They should play the lottery and buy us all one

[edgy pine]

Ye

also what drops are from normal cattle the rare ones

[lavish cloak]

Normal cattle drops everything chaotic drops at lower rates. Nightmare drops the wings on top of it.

[edgy pine]

Ah ok

Welp I can only kill normal so wish me luck

[lavish cloak]

Rise in strength. Brother. Soon.

[edgy pine]

My bubo only has at max about 154m or so

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-soon-gif-7801078

[fast grail]

How much damage did that long take you?

[lavish cloak]

64 billion

It was like playing custom starcraft 2 maps all over again

An insane amount of micromanagement keeping the moles away

I need auto attack boss vs autoattack minions options

[fast grail]

Shit, thats gonna be pain then, i dont ever see myself reaching too much higher than that honestly

not with vman at least

[lavish cloak]

One day

Spending my atom alchemy upgrades on quick slap

[heavy moth]

only need 23 bil and a free 20min

[signal osprey]

Eclipse skulls are pretty big too.

[edgy pine]

I got two portal fishing acssesories fighting cattle like back to back

I feel like my luck went for that instead of other stuff

[lavish cloak]

4 mobs away from done with w1. Gonna then get gmush to 10b from my piddly 2b then do the rest

[fast grail]

Wow, we are pretty much at exactly in the same spot in that

[signal osprey]

Just finished up my eclipse today so I'm looking forward to starting some gmush again

I've been at like 4b for ages but now I'm getting 12m gmush an hour with nothing else to use candy on so its time to fix that

And on an unrelated note I just broke 1b build rate today which is pretty cool

[fast grail]

What cons level for that?

[signal osprey]

756/688

[fast grail]

damn, lot further ahead than me

[signal osprey]

I've been farming my kruk keys on DK with full con obols snap shot

Levels are going pretty quick

2600 bob probably helps too

[fast grail]

Need to work on my bob, its only like 600, havent atomed it in months

[signal osprey]

After my last sample it was the only bubble I did for a couple weeks

[fast grail]

and in the middle of defense meme, so gotta finish that first before i start progressing again

[signal osprey]

Whats the current record?

[fast grail]

Of others? No idea, last highest I had heard was salz's 55k from months ago and havent seen aynone else higher . ..

[signal osprey]

I meant yours. Last I saw I thought you had reached 200k?

[undone pollen]

in divinity why does my right side % decreases should i just afk for few days and try to raise it to 100%

[fast grail]

yeah, at 800k now

little over actually

[lapis elm]

My guy is a fortress hot damn

[signal osprey]

Its not decreasing its just rerolling. Every time you pick one it will reroll the options available. Left side can be 1, 5, or 10 and right side can be 25, 50, or 100

[undone pollen]

oh i thought it raises everytime i buy left side so its just reroll

[ocean fox]

So how do the skulls in the rift work?

[undone pollen]

how am i so unlucky to never get 100$

100%

[signal osprey]

Its kinda rare. Just gotta keep at it

[fast grail]

Think maybe one more week and I can stop this madness

[undone pollen]

ye i will

[signal osprey]

Every time you kill a skull it has a chance to move to a new mob and upgrade or a chance to disappear

[undone pollen]

its not like i have other choice i need that bear

[ocean fox]

I see

[signal osprey]

After another week of FMJ you might have more defense than gen chatters have damage

I respect that shit

[agile pagoda]

Nice! I just got 3 ancient artifacts in a 28 basic chest run AND got my 5th god

[fast grail]

lmaoo, yeah honestly. To reach this point earlier ive done things ive never thought i would do

[signal osprey]

After FMJ you gotta go full dchef until you get level 60 on the defense meal 🧠

[fast grail]

The def meal is so little, like +75 def per level

[ebon bridge]

is it efficient to have purrmep linked on my active?

[fast grail]

dchef is only 260 so need to level it anyways though

[iron ravine]

You just stacking armor for fun or you actualy need it

[fast grail]

Honestly no idea what ill be working on after this, I dont even have anyone at 1T damage yet so gotta figure that out

[fast grail]

Fun, useless goal

[signal osprey]

Doesnt really matter that much assuming you dont care about getting talent levels from arctis

[fast grail]

Will make sure i dont worry about def until w7/w8

[signal osprey]

When in doubt just do samples

Or con

Can never go wrong atoming bob

[fast grail]

Havent re-sampled in months

[iron ravine]

Good choice

[signal osprey]

I'm taking a break from bob to push some more sampling stuff

All these new afk gains are gonna inflate everything so I figure its probably time

But tbh I just wanna do bob again

[sick sentinel]

just resampled my warriors and vman

im tired boss

[signal osprey]

Also we get more goats now with the 2 div resets thing

So thats even more afk gains

[sick sentinel]

makes it a bit more bearable too

dont feel like i need to squeeze all my samplers in at once

[signal osprey]

But the gold skull though

[sick sentinel]

if only i could doot it a different way

it wont really impact me for skull stacks

my weekly reset is tomorrow anyway so i can do chopping whenever

[fast grail]

I'm too scared to re-sample because if i do, too many bubbles are gonna be able to be hourly/bi-hourly clicked

[signal osprey]

You dont have to click em though

Go full atoms to push fluoride faster

[opaque sun]

fmj grows linearly, and there isnt much other bubbles that uses a bug printer, so its like a might as well do some hourly click (more like once a day though)

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm printing fmj clicks right now

Its slow but I dont really need bugs

So why not

[opaque sun]

will probably help when the w6’s equivalent of wurms appear

[fast grail]

I really need to, my dust motes are the only bugs that I have sampled and They are being turned into atoms

[signal osprey]

I guess I could do scarabs and maybe push the agi stamp a little more

[fast grail]

Cant re-sample something just got bugs cause arti is at 2.35x

[opaque sun]

Ill also probably print bloaches for once a day shaquracy clicks

[fast grail]

At the very least, im already set for def for w6 wurm equiv

[opaque sun]

currently printing gold fish for the dr bubble and skeleton fish for war money bubble

[signal osprey]

Part of me wants to do more fish but that one feels worse because its competing with mining prints

[fast grail]

My FMJ is actually getting close to passing my GT bubble . .. .

[opaque sun]

Once goldfish and skeleton bubbles reaches like 1000, all in on linear growing shaquracy

[signal osprey]

I feel like 1000 from skeleton clicks will take a really long time

[opaque sun]

With doot and vman, i get like 3-4 clicks a day on that skeletonfish bubble

[signal osprey]

Yeah I guess doot would help with that

[opaque sun]

When a bubble reaches like 800, i sometimes just yolo that day’s atom upgrades to finish it up

[patent surge]

I'm so checked out on this game now

I'm overdue on resample by a month

[carmine breach]

es with 1T damage and 13.33DR at worms or active bubo around the same DR, which do you guys think is superior for keys?

[radiant crag]

imo u should either do bubo for liquid+keys or dk for con+keys. in my experience my keys per hours are bubo < es < dk

[carmine breach]

smart I wasn't considering DK, always forget that poor neglected dude.

[opaque sun]

DK at wurms gets most keys unless you got like 40T damage on ES

[radiant crag]

it's a pretty good map for dk, the problem is wurms are really hp chunky so es doesnt do as well

[carmine breach]

yeah he starts to slow down a ton around 120

[opaque sun]

DK gets the upper hand just because wurm map is so good for him, while wurm Hp is not so good for ES

[carmine breach]

well time to get this DK back in business, haven't used him much active at all since VMan so his updated ability will be fun to see in action

[opaque sun]

DK reaches like 800-900 orbs, which basically means getting 4.5x drop roll bonus on average

[signal osprey]

Zelb has 200T damage on ES and still gets more on DK

There just isnt enough damage in the game right now for ES to handle wurms at the same level an 800+ orb does

[rotund rivet]

i got this from playing the arcade game, what quest this used for?

[signal osprey]

Its a vial

[rotund rivet]

oww thank you.

[dapper prism]

GRATZ! It's really rare btw 😄

It's only if you get to the purple area, and when you do it's a 1% chance.

Think it was like 1/36k ?

[rotund rivet]

no wonder you need to get 99+ before you can get the vial. it's been a long time i guess, this is my last vial lol

[raven fog]

should i buy the mobrespawn keychain?

[raven fog]

whyis ur next one coper

[opaque sun]

if you can, its the best effective fight afk as of now

[raven fog]

i can

i farmed 745

gems

[dapper prism]

Remember, to unlock vials, place like 10-20+ stacks of 1's in your inventory, and just spam drop them (shift click) even if you only have like 5 attempts etc.

[raven fog]

i need 5

[rotund rivet]

oww? so i need the copper first?

[dapper prism]

Do any boss on 1 key difficulty

[dapper prism]

No you can unlock vials in any order

[opaque sun]

also helps to use respawn keychain on active bm/bb for some reason you have to active on them

[dapper prism]

But you should check the wiki vials and unlock beneficial stuff. Like copper ore is for brew cauldron speed on orange.
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Alchemy/Vials

[modern plaza]

so post office gives Prowess Effect. does the +Prowess Effect apply to all skills or just the boxes skill??

[opaque sun]

should just be the box’s skill

[rotund rivet]

thank you sir.

[opaque sun]

It caps out at 2x easily so no one really bothered that part of the box

[viscid sandal]

dang... i know i should feel grateful but like why not bigger :9

[modern plaza]

ahh ok, bc the alchemy bubble is about 2x al effects, so I imagine getting the 30% from post office turns into 60% and then easy to get the other 40%

[modern plaza]

haha gz

[viscid sandal]

was totally hoping my next big boy nugget would be in the 6 digits

[raven fog]

how much does it helo i am farming super chows

[opaque sun]

alchemy bubble and leek gets it to the prowess cap of 2.00x easily

[raven fog]

i got it what can i use it for againf

?

[modern plaza]

and all that does is just make the jumps 50% instead of 100% for multis

[opaque sun]

20% respawn is effectively like fight afk so helps alot when candy super chow

And helps somewhat even when active on BB

[dapper prism]

wont it work for chow/zow nicely too?

[opaque sun]

Its a big help for afk/candy chow yes

[raven fog]

thx

[opaque sun]

For active, it helps but like you shouldn’t be wasting time active on bb

[raven fog]

its better than my 10 afk gain

than i bought before

but i am using doubler so idk

[modern plaza]

got everyone in rift, gonna wake up to 5m kills hopefully and secure that vial mastery 🙂 14 vials lvl 13 so will be a nice little 32% bonus to all my vials (will that be noticeable?)

[dapper prism]

Hope you've superchowed?

[signal osprey]

Delaying rift unlocks for super chows isnt worth it

[sharp wind]

How many damage will we get for greenstacking w1-w3?

[signal osprey]

Unless you're literally in the process of super chowing it already in which case yeah finish it I guess

[dapper prism]

Idk, i had like easily 2m+ kph at rift 31 and pushed to 41 quickly, then it turned into like 500-600k kph

[sharp wind]

Is it worth to do?

[signal osprey]

Yeah its slower at higher levels but that doesnt mean its worth it to delay rift upgrades

The rift upgrades are stronger than 1 individual super chow

[modern plaza]

lol super chow each rift monster??? ohh fudge... well that whole mindset will have to wait

[viscid sandal]

Is there any way to see which ship is attached to a Captain (apart from the Map)? The overlap makes it difficult when I want to return a ship...

[dapper prism]

the delay would have made superchow be 2 days delay for the unlocks, vs now spending 8-9 days..

[raven fog]

rift 35 i am there too

[radiant crag]

show identity and then go back to the ship listings, should have letters and numbers on each

[dapper prism]

Not each rift, just Rift itself, doesn't matter at which one, but from 30-40s their hp gets so exponential you will barely hit mk

[modern plaza]

so only 1 rift monster counts ??

[radiant crag]

it won't help much on the overlap part though

[dapper prism]

yeh, so you can superchow at any rift level.

[modern plaza]

got it, so i'll superchow the after vial mastery

[viscid sandal]

I see.. so no way for me to return... say "Ship 19" if I don't see that on the map because it's behind something?

[dapper prism]

Rift 31 is like 10b hp, rift 41 is 1.3tril hp. So easy MK vs no MK kinda thing.

[radiant crag]

go to delete your captain and click return

[raven fog]

what lvl are u all in grinde time

[modern plaza]

just gonna take a 50days at 85k/hr

[viscid sandal]

That's just it though, I don't know which captain Ship 19 is attached to, since they're all stacked on one spot

[radiant crag]

ah i misunderstood a bit, best way would be using a external tool like IE or IT

[modern plaza]

i haven't even started superchow, so I'm not too concerned about missing out on rift just yet lol....

but yes rift will bite me in the ass for that completionist

[dapper prism]

3.7k but can easily do around +1k levels a day if i went back to cc

[viscid sandal]

You're a beauty, thanks! Completely missed that on the IT interface

[dry hare]

Yo is there a faster way to get the keys for world 5 boss

[dapper prism]

Active DK with maxed DR

[radiant crag]

using dk active and having all 9 other chars farming wurms is the fastest

[dry hare]

What if u just got to the boss room

[dapper prism]

then grind further

[radiant crag]

crawlers and wurms have better drop rates for keys than moles

[dapper prism]

its 1/75k / 50k / 25k for mole/crawler/wurms

[dry hare]

Dang it’s gonna take a long time to get there

[dapper prism]

so wurms is clearly way better

[radiant crag]

if ur concerned about getting the armor it's not particularly a direct upgrade to magma, more of a sidegrade that works better in different niches

[dry hare]

I don’t even have the 4th anvil unlocked

[dapper prism]

Then your priority shouldnt be close to any of that

[dry hare]

Yea I just rush game when new update comes out then farm for everything else at the end

[radiant crag]

nothing to really rush with no next world yet

[dapper prism]

I do the same but not having anvil tab 4 yet feels like not just rushing but actually neglecting stuff

[dry hare]

I know I just getting ready so when the next world comes out

[dry hare]

Kinda I have to get to the end to actually get everything at the end I have to beat the last thing to be able to do everything else it sucks

[dapper prism]

Not at all, you don't have to push anything in w5 for a while. It's more important to "just unlock w5" so you can progress sailing, gaming and divinity. pushing the zones initially is meh

[dry hare]

Yea but I have to my mind only will let me do that or when something new comes out I want to do that right away like with the vman I grinder till I got it then went back to farming for world 5 boss

[placid mural]

i wish i could get my Vman nightmare kill first then do the other 9

[cunning summit]

world 5 endgame gods i have a question
what is much more viable end game 2 shaman 1 wizard
or 2 wizard 1 shaman

[dapper prism]

2 wizard, check !guide for info

you want 2x ES, DK, SB

[cunning summit]

okay thanks

[dapper prism]

2 more days time to hit 1t 😮
https://i.imgur.com/Vz24aSC.png

[sharp vine]

You'll probably see faster/better gains if you focus on the fundamentals and the easier to obtain goals that are right in front of you instead of trying to slog through self-implemented stone walls like progging the next W5 portal for weeks

[dapper prism]

Reminds me of that one person who had like 200kph to push through w4, took them forever instead of focusing on core stuff

[sharp vine]

I read that as 200k kph at first and was like "um sir that's plenty for W4"

[dapper prism]

Lol that'd be nice xd

[modern plaza]

2 days howw???

[dapper prism]

My goal i set last month, in 2 days im at 4 months since i started.

[modern plaza]

do u have doot?

[modern plaza]

what did you do to pump it so high? like how are you going to get 10% dmg increase in 2 days???

[dapper prism]

Just the usual ig, i was half that dmg like a bit over a week ago

[strong socket]

was boutta say you had 500b like 2 week ago 😅

[radiant crag]

the more damage you have the easier it is to get more of it i feel like

[dapper prism]

I've just been farming keys as well this last week

~6k

[cold jackal]

hey guys does the divinty for double kills only count active kills?

[dapper prism]

Damn ran out of troll shards while making magma sets for everyone

Any efficient way to farm keys? im at 570 was waiting to hit 600 to do the 10x nightmare merit

besides camping crappy seekers

[dry hare]

I tried I will go back to farming portals the next day I have to get to the end to be able to focus on everything else

[radiant crag]

w4 colo? i think it drops keys right

[dapper prism]

Just realized im getting 12 keys for 4h candy so that's not too bad

how good is w5 colo on keys? havnt touched a colo in a while now

[radiant crag]

w4 is decent on keys but i usually run w2 or w3 so i dont have any numbers, no w5 colo

[dapper prism]

what was the benefit for earlier colos?

[radiant crag]

w2 i do for gold kebabs, w3 for slush obols since i need more and gold money food

[opaque sun]

sometimes damage spike happens without you noticing such as nblb

w2 colo is also the best candy:ticket cost ratio

[cunning summit]

my luck is 💩 so no

[radiant crag]

got this many keys at 15 dr on dk as a single sample size for u

[dapper prism]

Tyvm for checking/doing it 🙂

[patent surge]

Wow fun

3/4 free pets is bloque

[vagrant mountain]

impressive

[dapper prism]

lol just realized my last 3 alts dont have w4 unlocked past elite promo quest

funny going back to 20k portals with 2m kph

[next locust]

My mind went: 15dr.. sample.. keys... printing keys... haha endgamers... printing keys?!?!

[crisp silo]

Use es go last w4 map, start 'printing'

Truly a printer moment

Prints everything

[shrewd nexus]

thats noob stuff, i use my printer to print more printer

[radiant crag]

real endgamers print frisbees instead of keys

[dapper prism]

why not just print w6 unlock?

[next locust]

Yeah that's why I was so confused for a millisecond xD I'm so used to seeing frisbee print flexing that pic with 39 keys looked alarmingly normal

[dapper prism]

Now im confused, u can 3d print frisbee?

[radiant crag]

yeah its the wood mushroom's normal "drop"

[next locust]

Yup

[shrewd nexus]

you canprint first entery on a card

[next locust]

It's the first drop in the drop table

[shrewd nexus]

you need more than 0 per hour rate though

[dapper prism]

def got more than that, just didnt realize it.
(from superchowing)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120585757149626439/1126069574887026739/LegendsOfIdleon_KyTMLhrnu5.png

[next locust]

What's max print% cap, btw? 90%?

[radiant crag]

yeah 90% is sample cap

[dapper prism]

so dont overlevel the print prayer

[next locust]

Waiting for lava to release easy +print% somewhere so basically everyone has that prayer overleveled
evil laugh

[radiant crag]

mine is maxed, it's not a huge loss and you can just level gt more

[dapper prism]

Then you just wont need it anymore, so win-win

[next locust]

Oh true that

[radiant crag]

i don't think you need to run it on dk anymore with vial masteries, but non dk you do

[dapper prism]

mine is max too, dont care about the class xp, more about the skill xp as its harder to scale i feel for some stuff. Especially when still needing family levels

[hollow wasp]

should so sampling more often, went from 101/h dementia to 569/h :x

[dapper prism]

Best at least every 2 weeks

earlier if you got some huge unlocks

[hollow wasp]

forgot star signs and cards. its 921/h lol

big upgrade

[radiant crag]

chips, vman hand, equips? get that 1000/h

[hollow wasp]

dont have chips or vman

[next locust]

Mman hand?

[radiant crag]

yeah its mman i just call the class vman my bad

[hollow wasp]

this

[next locust]

Yeah dudeman book that up xD

[hollow wasp]

problems is my maestro is 2 lvls lower in mining than my dk

[next locust]

Ah that sucks

Can you candy fix it?

[dapper prism]

yeh just candy it most likely

[hollow wasp]

but i booked it to 134 now

lemme check

[tranquil surge]

what recipes is the game refering too'

when it says unlock 900 more recipes to unlock access tab

for anvil

[dapper prism]

You mean from merit stuff?

[tranquil surge]

yup

[dapper prism]

Obviously not released

[tranquil surge]

ohh

so it only goes up to the 4th column andd thats it?

sweeeet

[hollow wasp]

yay new mining record. 45

(minigame)

[dapper prism]

delete/Remove captain in the ui will return

[covert sphinx]

dk or 800b dmg es for pearls?

[dapper prism]

Probably ES, DK starts to shine in w5 especialyl wurms due to the huge hp difference

[hollow wasp]

with the maestro hand it wasnt the level. it was the % xp right? if the other char is 1xp below it, its fine

[dapper prism]

yup

although to be save its nice to have maestro ahead in actual levels

[next locust]

Oh I had no idea about that. I always thought it was the level

[hollow wasp]

ye im doing it rn. i invest all my minign minigames. went from 32 to almost 35 now. my dk is 34 so im fine. i might ber able to get to 36 with the minigames

[oak sail]

should I put all my characters on divinity until I get goat?

[next locust]

If you still need lab exp, yes

[radiant crag]

when i hit w5 i pushed div to get bear, then i pushed my chars through w5 for a bit and then once i was settled i pushed to goat and had people sit in lab until 40 div

[next locust]

Maybe have one active fighter doing stuff to be optimal

[oak sail]

does lab level increase connection range

[next locust]

Not afaik. It increases line width tho

[oak sail]

wait wat is connection range then? Is that for all the bonuses/gems?

[radiant crag]

connection range is ur char to the bonuses

[next locust]

Yep and line width is to other chars

[oak sail]

I see

[radiant crag]

like the spelunking head from is is always 80px range

[oak sail]

Im guessing each lvl is 1px

[dapper prism]

Is it possible at all to get to 150 sb flag stack while having vman eclipse on?

[modern plaza]

nope

[radiant crag]

it'll keep auto using the stacks so nah

[dapper prism]

i mean ive managed to hit around 137 so far

sadly both vman presets have it on 225 xD

[oak sail]

is vman quest harder than the maestro quest

[next locust]

Nah maestro is way harder

Depends on your account progression tho

[radiant crag]

maestro is harder i agree

[next locust]

For some players, vman quest is just clicking through dialog

[valid ledge]

does more MK mean more dna?

[radiant crag]

you have a lot more account bonuses when you get to vman rather than when someone got to mman

[next locust]

Yeah and you only need to kill some spores(?) with maestro and level him up to 150. Everything else is account wide stuff

[dreamy merlin]

and chaotic chiz but thats ez af

my weak mman couuld kill chaotic chiz

[next locust]

Well yeah at that point it shouldn't be a challenge. I didn't even remember the chiz thing.

Really, it's harder to finish w1-3 chow than do the rest

[twilit goblet]

How do you guys farm for obol fragments?
Currently have done a base set of family and personal bronze pop, rerolled but not upgraded as im lacking frags.

poop card at 4* and genie almost at 3*, no choc chip. Would it just be fastest to active DK somewhere in w2 with these for frags and dice?

[dapper prism]

Hard to judge, as most dice come from crystals and you havnt mentioned either crystal rate nor dr

[radiant crag]

i do snelbies on my dk, you can do sandy pots or sand castles. you could also do beans in w1 for less obols but also statues

[next locust]

I did my drop obols at snelbies woth DK. Had choco chip tho.

[twilit goblet]

oh true, about 5x DR currently, no boxes into drop box for alchemy tho

[next locust]

Had plenty of frags after that

[dapper prism]

and still, check your ie for your crystal rate

[eager zinc]

is there a better way to increase the Liquid regen speed other than? thats uncapped.

[dapper prism]

CC will make that easy af

[twilit goblet]

one sec, let me check it, is it on character page?

[eager zinc]

?

CC

[dreamy merlin]

cranium cooking

[eager zinc]

thats what Im doing ^^

been doing it for a few days

[dapper prism]

thats the only thing thats uncapped really. I got rate to level 100 before tocuhing other stuff

Besides that things like salt lick etc

[next locust]

Would maestro actually be faster for obols, than dk btw? Assuming no choco or maxed crystal cards?

[dapper prism]

also the one stamp, jungle juiice vial etc.

[hollow wasp]

after i got maestro highest lvl in mining i manged to get my dementia sample from 959/h to 1222/h

[dapper prism]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=liquid

[radiant crag]

over 1k lets go

[next locust]

We got the 1k+ hurray!

[hollow wasp]

yay x)

[covert sphinx]

why does my maestro get 150 b exp at trems but my barb get 320b? (afk) is this supposed to be right?

[hollow wasp]

and due the lab bonus i get around 5k/h now

3k

[next locust]

Then it was definitely worth it

[dapper prism]

might not be hitting ur base max cap for kph

Also check potions, does bb have xp pots?

[twilit goblet]

@dapper prism 1 in 136 at the moment

[dapper prism]

thats kinda low

you leveled crystllin stamp?

[twilit goblet]

only improvement i can make in a short notice is to farm the demon genie card to 3*

yea

[dapper prism]

and star talent?

[ancient quail]

Do you need 1mil xylobone kills for vman?

[twilit goblet]

yea lvl 100 star talent and 80 crystal stamp

[deep lodge]

@rustic garnet
My BB is finished with his rift superchow, and it definitely counts (for now at least). I'll get him to cooking and check if he keeps his superchow in a day or two!

Rift also disappeared from Toolbox / Also shows 1 superchow

[dapper prism]

speaking of, so close to mine 😄
https://i.imgur.com/jsWzt3N.png

[tranquil surge]

is the deathnote prayer worth using

[dapper prism]

sometimes, sometimes not

[tranquil surge]

without the rift that stops giving negatives

[dapper prism]

rift doesnt affect prayers

[deep lodge]

The prayers where you have no prayers is bad

[dapper prism]

oh unless you mean the 1/5 yeh nawh

[tranquil surge]

i thought there was some

oh

nvm that was a star sign one

yeah so basically im trying for blue skull on w2 mobs

i only just unlocked that prayer lastnight

want to know what i should be checking to see if its worth using

just base it off kph?

[dapper prism]

pretty much since that's when you would be using it anyways

[deep lodge]

Basically, if you're in Multikill it's bad. If you're in a high rift it can be good

[tranquil surge]

ahh

[dapper prism]

Just don't overlevel it

[tranquil surge]

im in rift zero so that answers the question

dont use it lol

[deep lodge]

Then when you start rift, take the opportunity to try to get 100M kills on your Blood Berzerker for superchows before going in a further rift (You'll probably have multikill in rift 0)

Will prevent you from having to do this

[dapper prism]

Yeh, was at 2m+ kph at rift 31 but didnt superchow, got rift 41 and ended up with ~600k kph

[deep lodge]

600k? How? I couldn't break 308k...

[dapper prism]

yay just finished my superchow, let me check stats

[tranquil surge]

so wait

i shouldnt actually go for rift atall before i go for bb 100m superchow?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/4mGWnsX.png

[dapper prism]

2x fomo + doot?
https://i.imgur.com/niimAsX.png

[deep lodge]

Ah yeah the fomo rings will explain most of that

[dapper prism]

and maxed out kpk talent etc. (440%)

[deep lodge]

And you do have ~~double ~~ 4k more than my strength lol

[tranquil surge]

i reckon the fomo rings are here to stay tbh'

be suprised if they actually dont show back up in shop again

[dapper prism]

stuff always rotates

just a bit random

[tranquil surge]

tell that to the smitty hat 😦

[opaque sun]

W4 rings must sell like pancakes as lava return the often

[tranquil surge]

he was number 1

[dapper prism]

Well especially with rift now xD

[opaque sun]

While w2 and w3 rings are rare

[dapper prism]

and everyone wanting to push through w4.

Want w1 😦

Sb feeling lonely

[opaque sun]

When Christmas seasons comes, lava gonna add w1 fomo ring

[tranquil surge]

id cop that tbh

im not bothering with the w4 ring atm

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/c9a33685cc22c74aff0bea7c5aa7f451.png

Leaving him active overnight paid off

[dapper prism]

ty for showing that, forgot new weapons were out xD

[next locust]

Haha same

[tranquil surge]

uhh so

i get 100k

without prayer and 100k with the prayer

so its barely but is worth using?

[untold saffron]

100k what

[tranquil surge]

103* with

kph

[dapper prism]

OMFG

[zinc torrent]

Morning everyone

[tranquil surge]

good morning lad

[dapper prism]

1T dmg 1 day before hitting 4 months! 🥳

@modern plaza
Just needed to upgrade the weapon!
https://i.imgur.com/ReEtnUF.png
https://i.imgur.com/4bIo3Av.png

[tranquil surge]

dayum you only been playing for four months?

i must be heelllaaa unefficient lmfao

[dapper prism]

My sailing has been very lucky btw:
https://i.imgur.com/nbFCRY9.png

[untold saffron]

you a dooter?

[next locust]

The real question is, did you buy anything else besides autoloot?

[dapper prism]

Bundles. and yes i got doot at like 3.5k greens or something like that, still in tier 4 pulls.

[next locust]

That's real nice sailing for 4month old acco :o

[dapper prism]

I already had 200m wood 3D samples pre doot at 3 months.

[tranquil surge]

so how many months did w5 take to reach?

[dapper prism]

months? you mean "weeks"

[tranquil surge]

sheeesh

[dapper prism]

started 3/11, w5 at 4/3

[tranquil surge]

ddecent

[next locust]

Did it really take you weeks? XD

[tranquil surge]

i mean ive been playing four months too roughly

[late mountain]

share your IE, because obv we're missing something

[dapper prism]

Sailing was really very lucky, didnt even have to use my winds:
https://i.imgur.com/2nSJDlW.png

[tranquil surge]

and i only just got anvil iv tab a couple hours ago lol

[tropic plume]

Mhh we dont have a speedrun guide
Would be kinda cool to have to do something like what you did

[dapper prism]

My IE is last updated 6/11 for 3 months, won't update it else all progress is blamed on doot, that way people can see the progress without doot.
https://trickzbunny.idleonefficiency.com/

I min max a lot, i joined the discord on day 1 and asked a lot of questions, roamed around in the chats before reaching new worlds etc.

[deep lodge]

Finally

[tranquil surge]

how tf

do you have all maxed post box offices in only 4 months

lol

[dapper prism]

And if you look at the dates, you'll see what i mean with sailing luck

[deep lodge]

pens

[tranquil surge]

thats crazy haha

[dapper prism]

Pens only takes like 4-5 days+/- depending on crystal rate

[tranquil surge]

ahh

[deep lodge]

I spend 200 pens a day on carrier 1 and 3, PO points go really fast

[dapper prism]

Pens get annoying over time:
https://i.imgur.com/DZuj5Cy.png

[deep lodge]

Since farming kattle keys with DK, they keep coming lol

[cyan shuttle]

true

[deep lodge]

Also, am I the only one that noticed that DK gets way more money and XP than bubo at wurms?

With the same cards at least

[dapper prism]

money? never checked money/xp since the change tbh

guess ill make a note to test it tomorrow

[deep lodge]

I'm running crystal/drop rate cards on both, not money. Might be why DK's orb multiplies so much more

Same for active XP

But yeah, i'm getting triple the XP on DK

[dapper prism]

Divine helm + feet for es/dk active, right?

[deep lodge]

Don't have them yet, but yeah they'd be great

[dapper prism]

Damn, def going to have to test him now. I just recall when i thought ES was op and then did Bubo from 300 to 352 in 4h 8min (offline would have been 35+days)

[deep lodge]

Finish myriad in one go

[pine pond]

get some

[dapper prism]

dr 13.01x to 13.28x switching from magma to divine (head/feet) but also lost like 200m dmg

[deep lodge]

rip lol

[dapper prism]

wait forgot to switch something xD

[deep lodge]

Worth it tho

[dapper prism]

nvm, i gained dmg?

forgot cards

[deep lodge]

Yeah but you can't use it for skilling anymore

[dapper prism]

oh rip

[unkempt flame]

just made it to w5, i should still plant all chars into divinity right?

[deep lodge]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[unkempt flame]

and is 1exp/hr normal or can i increase that

[deep lodge]

Follow the divinity tab in the guide

[dapper prism]

running out of bars/salts but got some spare magma atm 😄
https://i.imgur.com/ztAgZrK.png

[unkempt flame]

oh the exp is just fixed, not affected by anything but style?

[dapper prism]

well, later on by multipliers

[unkempt flame]

gotcha

[dapper prism]

like god blessings, and other stuff

[deep lodge]

It's affected only by "Divinity xp%", not by "All xp%"

[dapper prism]

divinity gain*

[deep lodge]

Also, you can't earn 0.5xp so don't check in less than an hour. I was too impatient at the beginning

[dapper prism]

or is that purely pts?

[deep lodge]

I think points and xp are separate boosts yeah

[dapper prism]

Mhm i always thought gain was all?
Since how else are we getting like 200x to like 1000x xp multis?

[deep lodge]

Mh yeah you might be right, never really tested it

[dapper prism]

Same, just assumed it, either way always felt like needing to max whichever to be done with div faster

[deep lodge]

I'll sacrifice some money for science, wait a minute

[exotic pendant]

how did you get your alch level so high so fast? Im about 3 months in and im only at like 45 alch level

[deep lodge]

Before upgrading hare god (216% div gain)

[dapper prism]

Start bubo CC

I get 100+ hour alchemy progress skips every 15 mins if im on bubo

[deep lodge]

After upgrading hare god (252% div gain). With map reload

[exotic pendant]

and that translates to vman alch level? Its holding back my damage on him pretty hard

[deep lodge]

So, divinity gain doesn't affect XP.

[opaque sun]

div gain is purely for the offering pts only

[dapper prism]

Just cant tell where else all that % comes, since most "div xp" is purely food, statue, stamp, vial and that still seems somewhat minimal

[brazen hound]

my bubo gives me about 10 mins alchemy progress every time. Are u on some particular map when activating it?

[dapper prism]

oh ES talent is multiplicative

[dapper prism]

What do you mean with vman? like how does that link to bubo cc

[deep lodge]

The style affects the %, if you did not know. That's an easy 15x multiplier

[dapper prism]

A lot of variables, early on you should easily hit 10-40k seconds. Doing daily CC until you hit 200+ tente talent.
Location depends on dmg. This was a little rough guide:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dapper prism]

Ohhh right, forgot about that xD

[deep lodge]

Also, want to see a 13 days unending loot search? My BB procced sailing after his rift AFK

[exotic pendant]

I just saw your vman had 111 alch, im trying to increase my alch level on him so i can do more damage since its my lowest level on him

[brazen hound]

"Also 200 tente will make bubo/CC a huge game changer,"
What is a tente?

[dapper prism]

Oh right, well he will just passively get alch xp same as everyone else. apprently liquid cauldron gives more xp than brewing cauldron too.

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/h3j3h52.png

at 200 the time reduction goes from 2s to 3s

[brazen hound]

o dam

[exotic pendant]

i'll try sticking him in there and boost my bubo with cc to see if that helps ty

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1125251335164534804/bubosetup.png

[brazen hound]

maybe I should stop putting all my resources on my ES and work a bit on bubo

[brazen hound]

hmm, I thought poison was the main damage dealer for a bubo. But you only use poiso clouds on large maps then?

[dapper prism]

aura ticks faster, check this out:

wait towards the end when i set it to auto and look at how often rezz procs

at 35 wurms each time that basically insta die

also (forgot to turn on crystal cards, choco chip) and stuff like that

[deep lodge]

With that setup you get 220k seconds of alchemy easy

[brazen hound]

but u throw poison vials

[dapper prism]

Also forgot to put on my gloves

https://i.imgur.com/vYafMcO.png

A lot of variables that will make a big difference

[deep lodge]

That's mainly the farts, and it just helps if there are wurms not on an aura

[brazen hound]

I havent even seen the white energy thing that covers the floor on my bubo

this is my bubo

[dapper prism]

This is still on auto, as matt said, aura wont be everywhere all the time, certain maps like citringes will be a ton easier than a "3" platform area

[deep lodge]

It's a shaman ability (previous tab)

[exotic pendant]

Auspicious aura ^

[dapper prism]

aura scales in size every 35 btw

You want to hit breakpoints, similar to dk statue

[brazen hound]

yea. Ill respec this bubo. Ive totally ignored him for fighting. he was chopping till lab, then lab till now

[dapper prism]

330k+ seconds without crystal cards/choco chip/fists.
crystal rate was 1/120 instead of 1/30 atm, and no choco = big difference too.
https://i.imgur.com/CfeufU4.png

also the CC cd is down to 21k seconds already, as CC started it was 35k:
https://i.imgur.com/EZPJnoz.png

In other words, it gets super OP for alchemy progress

[opaque sun]

199 tent to 200 tent is basically 1.5x multiplier on everything cooldown related, which is powerful boost

[dapper prism]

But even then it's technically way more/stronger.
As with sub200 you may not be hitting those insta rezz and may have down time

[radiant crag]

i hope we get 400 tent in w6

[opaque sun]

1.5x faster of A buffs efficiency of B by 1.5x, and so on

So its multiple multiplicative of 1.5x

[dapper prism]

lol, would be fun (overall also other level 400 talents) but also a bit busted depending how they are obtained.

Right now im just trying to hit 315 aura for the extra range (want to see that at citringes)

[brazen hound]

I see now why I dont fight with bubo. Since my char is only lev 120 he has few talent points.. so I lose a looot of lab exp for all chars if he is not on skilling preset

[radiant crag]

i don't think we can hit 315 yet

highest is 310 or 311?

[dapper prism]

Yeh don't think so either

[radiant crag]

im missing esorc levels for 310, but even higher esorc could push to 311 possibly

[dapper prism]

Once u survive w5 well enough and have crystal cards/chance and stuff. I suggest going for a card set similar to this (can replace dmg/stats for more active xp)
https://i.imgur.com/kQQbHdS.png

Crystal mobs give a ton of xp, and active xp is a multiplier on your class xp, so it gets pretty huge

Bubo will zoom through levels, a bunch of classes will once u do crystal+active xp stuff.

[opaque sun]

mine is on 312

[radiant crag]

ur es or ur talents off of es?

[opaque sun]

on ES

[brazen hound]

on mustaches which I 1shot

[opaque sun]

Sorry, i lied, its 314

[radiant crag]

what level is your es at?

[opaque sun]

497

The break point of family bonus

[radiant crag]

ah i have a ways to go then i still have 312 at lv424

[opaque sun]

Div level 131 with 700 big p for the arctis bonus of 15

[radiant crag]

i'm at 105 with 1140, it rounds up from 14.1 right?

i was just going off IE so i assumed it was

[dapper prism]

Off to bed, good night! (but looking forward to see if that actually does round up!)

[slow lantern]

What is the max possible Printer Go Brrrrr chance to not trigger cooldown?

[opaque sun]

So my +15 (which internally is around 15.01) is probably giving me 16

[radiant crag]

oh so im missing a whole bear level, i thought it capped at 15

[opaque sun]

brrr re proc i think capped at 70% or something

looking at other gods, it seems to go slight above the max eg. Nobi bonus on mine says 201%

If using big p

Arctis and goat says +15 and 5%, but i assume thats just limitation of not displaying decimals

[slow lantern]

I forgot my atom colider was on so when I went to W3 it nuked some of my greenstacks.

[opaque sun]

never turn on atom collider, and dont change it from 1050m yeah

[radiant crag]

good to know guess i have to go back to div at some point ty ty

[opaque sun]

work on div and/or atom upgrade big p yeah worth it

[radiant crag]

my big p is at 95% of the value so that's not getting touched forever i think

[pine pond]

whats the website called that shows like all sources of drop rate

or exp, etc

[radiant crag]

idleoninsight

[pine pond]

try

[prisma drift]

I like your name

[radiant crag]

thank you my mom gave it to me

[prisma drift]

Mine did as well

[radiant crag]

🤝

[narrow cloak]

lava is your mom?

[prisma drift]

The real question are you a boy Dakota

[radiant crag]

yessir

[prisma drift]

When I got signed up for school when I was younger they put me down as a girl

Because they just assumed Dakota meant girl

[radiant crag]

yeah some people call me ms in e-mails cause of my name lol

[primal anchor]

how many character should i leave in the alter for divinity? ive been doing 9/1 farming and they are all around lvl 29-30 rn on mantra

should i continue this till they are all lvl 40 or swap to 3 on vitalic and let the other out?

ive only unlock 3 gods cuz they have all been on mantra

[runic girder]

Get goat and put them in lab

[radiant crag]

i've heard people say mantra isnt that good. personally i had people on vitalic until tranqi

[bright current]

mantra is really good if you have all/most of ur characters on it, and you arent lvl 40+ for the one you dont need to sit on the alter for yet

its tied for the best raw exp out of every prayer, aslong ad u have 10 ppl on it. but then u get fuck all points

[primal anchor]

so i should swap to vitalic, unlock goat then do lab? they are all lvl 1 lab btw lol

[bright current]

everyone? level 1?

[opaque sun]

its good to have few matra to support your main diviners, but not recommended going all 10 mantra during your god unlocking phases

[primal anchor]

yea i speed run w4, been playing for about a month only

[covert sphinx]

should i afk or active es to get molten recipe for vman fist?

[primal anchor]

so i completely ignored lab

[warm beacon]

Man get the refinery bonus in lab, it is by far the biggest bottleneck in this game

[opaque sun]

active ES is equivalent of like having 20 guys on afk, so obviously active better

[bright current]

ide go for focus style then, sacrifice long term div gains, get goat ASAP, then put them on whatever is best for them once u get goat, and have everyone in the lab for a while lol

[primal anchor]

focus instead of vitalic?

[bright current]

if you have everyone at lvl 1 lab, you need to get that shit up lol

focus is rarely the better option, but ide say here it is

just try get a fuckin boat load of points and unlock goat

[primal anchor]

the downside of speedrunning it is now i have tons of prolem to fix lol

[radiant crag]

at least you can start progging sailing

[bright current]

get goat > put every character in lab for a week lmao

beef that shit up

[primal anchor]

yea.. this is the really boring part tho

is the amarok card the only card that boost divinity exp gain?

[tame walrus]

How do the chests work in sailing? Saw you want to keep the lowest one wooden? Not sure why though/

[viral snow]

for loot in the beginning

to upgrade your ships

[tame walrus]

What is the difference between iron and wooden?

[bright current]

one grows on trees

[late mountain]

the iron one

[viral snow]

iron is rarer

[frigid acorn]

9 slot kattle stone successed

[tame walrus]

So each trip you get a chance to get a higher rarity? Then what does the select chest in the map do? It just skips wooden if you set it to iron?

[viral snow]

yes
i think theyre converted to gold ?
Not sure tho

[tame walrus]

At least i got my first relic after 5 trips. Got to world 5 yesterday set sailing went to bed woke up bam relic.

[opaque sun]

Amarok doesnt boost divinity

Only thing even remotely touches divinity is biggie card that raises the chance to double exp claim

[crisp silo]

time to start gamin again

[twilit goblet]

What are yall strategy for sailing?

Currently opened up to 7th island but i cant do 2 hours trip due to distance. Been focusing on sending boats to furthest islands they can reach and also increasing their loot value.

Seems like gold bar is slow and im just collecting resources until the treasure rotates and i could trade them in for gold, is there a better strategy?

or i could send all boats to one island and keep pushing one boat's speed lmao

[crisp silo]

early game speed,last few islands its okay to take a few hours per trips

[frail mauve]

It all depends on what you want to do? Are you missing important artifacts? Are you lacking in boat upgrades?

Or just lacking new islands.

[crisp silo]

generally wanna try to get speed up on all boats

[twilit goblet]

i want to push to fury island, but im lacking the speed

currently fastest boat is around 30k, and the latest island i unlocked is 100k distance iirc. Fury is 300k distance

[radiant crag]

how far along is your divinity? some gods give sailing speed as a blessing, and the cat gives a minor link bonus

[twilit goblet]

thinking of just upping speed then go to next island, then up it some more and get to fury

im up till goat, at lvl 24, gives me 92% sailing bonus so far

think im some distance away from purmep

[radiant crag]

the goat and cat blessings are strong since they're not bundled with any other bonuses in the formula

[twilit goblet]

yea been trying to upgrade the goat bonuses

worth to just dogpile most boats on one island, and just push speed?

although loot value seems pretty important too as i cant get enough stuff to bump speed

[crisp silo]

uhhhh maybe focus 1 island, like u missing some relices. U could try to push for ancient of those versions while lving up specific boats

[tame walrus]

I heard the best would be is to get the minimum travel distance then focus on loot. But yea rng doesn't want to work that way.

[radiant crag]

when i was progging i would usually just focus down one island's artifacts at a time. you could also send boats to the furthest island to get loot for when the gold bar trade comes around

make sure to check on captain daily too for boat speed if you need it at first

[twilit goblet]

how many hours does it take for the trade to reset?

yeahh been focusing on 2hour trips for the gainnsss

[radiant crag]

idleon toolbox has an upcoming trade thing on the dashboard, could use that to check ahead of time

[twilit goblet]

oh that's very nice

could actually just shift my boats after they've max and just plop them on the next resource

[solid haven]

why do skill lvl has no effect on skill's "rng"? (ex. sailing lvl on captain quality, gaming lvl on unlocking new plant type, construction lvl on cog quality)

or it does, but it's so minor it's meaningless?

[dim silo]

Does last 2 divinity gods give 0 bonuses?

[radiant crag]

just the blessings

[dim silo]

Oke

[vagrant ridge]

Heya, is there a way to disable the "Crystalline"-Stamp Drop? I'm currently active farming on Bubo and my pc starts to lag after about 1h because the whole floor is full of drops, bc my inv is full with stamps...

[opaque sun]

Skill lvl and class levels themselves hardly do anything unless there is a specific bonus that interacts with it

Ask lava why he made levels themselves useless

[runic girder]

Hand in the quest

[opaque sun]

Like just finish the quest

[vagrant ridge]

aaa man thx, so stupid i finished it on the other mage XD !

[warm beacon]

They affect other bonuses, gaming level with the dk skills, sailing level with some artifacts

[lost depot]

Skill lv improves the soft cap on your stamps so you need them the more you progress

[craggy fern]

just unlocked w5 and im kinda overwhelmed, i normally have 8 ppl in lab do i switch them all to divinity now?

[lost depot]

It's kinda boring but it is the most efficient

You drop all chars in divinity and take a break from the game lol

Once they hit the passive divinity stance then you take them all out again

[rugged olive]

DK Gaming Skills count from both DKs or is it only highest?

[left harness]

Hey i got aproblem where the skills on my bubo wont activate during active auto. It uses the skills for 4-5 min then just stops. It is auto attacking and not using any skills. Is there a known fix for this?

[lost depot]

Account wide skills never stack

[tacit tulip]

remove these skills from your cast bar, they can interrupt with some of bubos skills and prevent skill casts

[lost depot]

There used to be a bug where having certain ingame windows open would prevent you from using skills during Auto, idk if it ever got fixed

[narrow cloak]

anyone know if having longer or shorter traps better when i'm trying to get trapping critter cards? or it doesn't matter?

[rugged olive]

aight, ty

[left harness]

this seems to have fixed it, tytytyty

[opaque sun]

Shorter traps are better for cards since its per claim

[thin rose]

^^

[astral crescent]

is this worth using on every character?

[thin rose]

I don't even know the bonus so can't say

[pulsar cliff]

It's worth using on zero characters.

[astral crescent]

It says that if no prayers are equiped, get 1/5th bonus on all prayers, and no curses

[thin rose]

OH

[astral crescent]

whats a zero character? O: