lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[opaque sun]

So many people just skip through w4

[oak tartan]

It's pretty good even at terrible lab levels. I got the 3x refinery unlocked always and all of my guys have lab levels lower than 5

[versed sapphire]

what happens if u get duped companions? do you get improved stats or just nothing

[pallid quail]

non free ones can be traded at some point in the future

that's about it

[versed sapphire]

can you get dupes from the free ones?

[pallid quail]

yeah free can roll the same

[ancient vine]

You can get dupes of everything

[versed sapphire]

ok

[oak tartan]

I got the ram this week. Would have been happier with a weaker one like Custard 😛

[pallid quail]

I got my second molti this week XD

[versed sapphire]

i got the rift slug 2 weeks ago its pretty nice

[oak tartan]

I have like 3x frog and 1 ram lol

[versed sapphire]

ive got no dupes so far

[oak tartan]

the one that gives skill exp will be nice too

[opaque sun]

dupe of the free one doesnt do anything

[swift pecan]

I finally got rift slug this week. I thought it was going to do what it did last week and give me another doot.

[versed sapphire]

doot must be so op no?

[swift pecan]

It's pretty crazy.

[shrewd nexus]

its good, but overhyped tbh

[strong socket]

its way stronger than you initially think

[swift pecan]

Nah its pretty broken, but I feel it you don't know how to fully take advantage of it, it doesn't make as much of a difference

It will still speed up your gains alot though.

[strong socket]

literally getting days worth of procs, everyday lol

[swift pecan]

My refinery is definitely going brrrr, that's for sure.

[summer storm]

what boxes should you invest in as DK

in post office

[swift pecan]

That's hard to say for me, depends on what you are more in need of.

[summer storm]

faster respawn % in hp is good?

[astral vapor]

construction

[swift pecan]

Yeah construction should probably be priority 1

[summer storm]

ill go for that then

[opaque sun]

respawn timer of you (player) when you die

[summer storm]

its almost empty for me

oh lol, thought was mob respawn

whats so good about the construction box tho?

[opaque sun]

more exp is very good for construction progress

[summer storm]

havent touched on construction in forever

i should jhust focus xp?

[opaque sun]

yeah, xp translates to build speed as the carpenter bubble is the main source of speed that is dependent on const level

[summer storm]

and all chars in the table also right?

or on cogs

[swift pecan]

More build speed= higher level towers faster= higher td waves= more souls

I think most higher level people ideally only have squires on the board

[summer storm]

how much xp% is considered decent

im 1,5k atm

[tulip lark]

I believe end game meta is just 1 squire on the board

and just maxing out exp

[tulip lark]

max exp on a single cog scales with con level, so it's all relative

you'll never stop collecting cogs and looking for bigger numbers

[summer storm]

guess ill be making cogs again then

[tulip lark]

forever

and ever

lol

[summer storm]

making cogs also gives xp?

[north juniper]

Does the adept recipe from sugma only give the molten knuckles?

Or can it vary?

[haughty cove]

no

[tulip lark]

no.

[haughty cove]

yup

[tulip lark]

knuckles always

[swift pecan]

Each recipe dropped by a monster is the specific one.

[north juniper]

I got it a while ago and used it but it isn't there. Just unlocked tab 5

[haughty cove]

you sure?

[tulip lark]

are you sure? if it's still in the drop table for sugma, you didn't get it

[north juniper]

100000% positive

[tulip lark]

show your sugma card

if you got it, it won't be on the card

[summer storm]

whats the setup i should have then? like where place my chats

[haughty cove]

i dont think you got the suggma recipes man

[summer storm]

chars*

[opaque sun]

When every boardwide cog is exp, and all direction cogs with exp buff is pointed towards a single/two squire(s), its decent

[tulip lark]

highlest level squire on board, you can look up guides on how to place cogs on board. rest of characters make cogs or sit in box

[tulip lark]

yeah you didn't get it

it will disappear from the drop table when you got it

[runic girder]

!recipe

We should have a command for this

[north juniper]

Sonofa. Dang it then that makes a lot of sense. It was one of the other ones then.

Also explains why the ones I got aren't in the table anymore

[tulip lark]

yup

[opaque sun]

when you get a recipe, it lights up for all others that uses the same recipe icon

[runic girder]

Is that a lava code moment or intentional

[opaque sun]

The silhouette is just hiding an icon spoiler

[north juniper]

Aaaaah gotcha. Thank you peeps.

Back to farming

[haughty cove]

GL

[north juniper]

Farming on Bubo would be best im guessing?

[swift pecan]

Active ES is best for monster drops

[haughty cove]

dk is better for rare drops

[north juniper]

ES is always best for the first item in the drop table no?

[opaque sun]

and any drops that the mob drops

[granite grove]

all items in first page excluding rare drops iirc

[swift pecan]

I dont think DK is better for rare drops

[runic girder]

Es for non crystal stuff

[opaque sun]

Its more on “who” drops them than “what”

[runic girder]

Dk for crystal sruff

[runic girder]

Nope, rare drops are ES territory

[thin rose]

[opaque sun]

there is a misinformation going around on it depends on the rarity, but actually its on the mob type that drops the item

crystals just happen to have more rare drop tables than normal mobs

[granite grove]

i mean the blue sack rare drops, i heard ES mob bonus doesnt affect it

normal rare drops on 1st page like gold poops and wood circles kinda work with ES i think, at least kinda farmed a lot with it

[cobalt nimbus]

My weekly free pet update, how's yours guys

[granite grove]

oh no

[gusty steeple]

[vocal ibex]

How do I get all plant evolutions ?

[opaque sun]

ES orb affects those rare drop in normal mobs too, just that normal mobs have less of those

[swift pecan]

@cobalt nimbus Sorry buddy

[granite grove]

you mean DK orb?

oh ok

[opaque sun]

And rare item means any other drop besides the main material drop

[gusty steeple]

[opaque sun]

Sorry ES wormhole

[cobalt nimbus]

Maybe 5 frogs in a row will gain me doots

[vocal ibex]

So how do I get other evolutions for plants ? I only have 41

I been waiting over 2 weeks they don't evolve

[opaque sun]

If you are aiming for the “gobal rare drops” you want dk as dk is good at crystals that has many of the global rare drop table, but that doesnt mean DK is good at rare in general

[swift pecan]

Im in the same boat, heard having chemicals is a big one for getting the 6th evolution.

I'm pretty sure is just trying to chain chemical growth cycles while running kitsune, and hoping to get the 6th evolution.

[vocal ibex]

Mmm you know anyone with next ovation?

[swift pecan]

Alot of people have the 6th evolution, its the 7th you get during superbits that I've seen people say just don't bother.

[vocal ibex]

Mmm okay I shall get rid of some of my plants and focus on 1 or 2 6th evolution

[opaque sun]

more like cant get the 7 evo super bits yet

[swift pecan]

I think a couple end gamers may have had it, not entirely sure though.

[opaque sun]

doubt that 300m red bits reachable even with lv25 snail

[swift pecan]

Might not be, not even close to end game so i couldn't tell you.

[tender pine]

If I get 39 divinity points per hour across 9 characters, how long would I have to afk to get enough points to afford the sacrifice?

[opaque sun]

sounds like a simple calculation

[swift pecan]

If its 39 points total between all the characters is just over 40.

40 hours

[opaque sun]

He already has 1559

[swift pecan]

Yeah didn't look to close, should only be like 10-15 minutes then

[twilit goblet]

nobisect best insect 👌

[runic girder]

(1569-1559)÷39

[hollow shadow]

So is it kinda wierd how Kattlecruk goes from 2.5 trillion health on chaotic to 1 quadrillion on nightmare or is it just me?

[runic girder]

Just yeet that into a calculator

[opaque sun]

its a common HP scaling

[tough tusk]

doot best insect

[twilit goblet]

Took a while but finally, is there any guide for Speedrun and stuff?

[sacred monolith]

Yep, check #1084911530417606656

Main thing is to max the first skill and then second skill for speedrun

[white badger]

and don'tforget the chess skill

[twilit goblet]

yea im raising them, hopefully i can gather enough points into eclipse skill after speedrun lul

i want that beastmaster skill

[ember abyss]

My IE seems to have stopped syncing, been 2-3 days since it last updated. Playing via browser. Any suggestions?

[white badger]

cloud save then force update it

[ember abyss]

I’ll give that a shot. Thanks.

[white badger]

the force update button on IE

[ember abyss]

No dice. I’ll keep tinkering.

Possible that my cloud save isn’t working, I guess?

[ember abyss]

Looks like my cloud save isn’t working. Tried logging in via a private browsing window and progress is from 3 days ago. Any ideas how to fix?

[twilit goblet]

for Speedrun, do i need to have unlocked the map already on vman before i can Speedrun it?

like rat map for example

[narrow cloak]

No

[twilit goblet]

got it tq

[opaque sun]

speed run resets all portals to begin with

[twilit goblet]

ah

okay imma do a fresh one hopefully get Some good talent points

[opaque sun]

and gets back portals based on the most progressed guy in the family

[twilit goblet]

okay that waas fun i didnt even make it through w1

perhaps lacking quite hard in multikill and dmg, only got as far as unlocking gigafrog

[mystic delta]

try https://www.idleonefficiency.com/ you might be using https://yourname.idleonefficiency.com

[plush gale]

Just making sure, the Sheepie pet makes it so that you never have to change bubbles? They're all permanently equipped to everyone?

[zealous niche]

The AoE skill and when to fire it makes a big difference too

[zealous niche]

Check your multi-drops for your skills if you want confirmation

If it’s above 100% then sheepie is working

[plush gale]

Yep, sure is, cheers

As good as it is, I dunno how I feel about an entire mechanic being removed though lol

[sacred monolith]

Yeah the companions seem to have the feel of the premium mobile game items that you pay for to not play the game

[opaque sun]

once you get sheepies, wearing big bubbles only acts as a visual marker on the alchemy menu

[twilit goblet]

is the multkill talent here the talent to go for if i am leaving him afk Skilling?

Since it benefit other chars

[wary girder]

am I doing my PO boxes wrong? i'm in w5 and only have like 185 points into the fighting box

ive seen others with like multiple maxed out boxes

or is that just game time difference

[dapper prism]

You need to grind pens out properly, will take a few days once you have everything setup.

ES for proper cards, max out crystal rate, get choco chip, also get obols for DR, then DK w3 bloodbones will get you an east 20-40 pens/h (later 100-150+)

[wary girder]

does having more pens allow me to get more boxes daily?

cause i've been doing pretty much 4/5 boxes every day

[dapper prism]

• Card chance cards then drop rate cards and crystal cards.
• Get obols (Pop with ES, Dice with DK)

[granite grove]

more pens = more boxes

[dapper prism]

pens allow you to reset a task, and redo it for more boxes

[wary girder]

with pens can you reroll completed boxes?

oh yeah wow lol

ive def been using my pens wrong then

[granite grove]

early pens are just to save streaks, later on its farming box itself

[dapper prism]

Like this:

First i did the daily orders, then i used some pens

[wary girder]

okay wow ive been using my pens to just reset orders I can't complete

[thin rose]

f

[wary girder]

LOL

[dapper prism]

@wary girder Also, the cost increases until you hit a streak of 100 (which is 101) , so anything after that will be the max cost. If you can afford it all good, but early on if not, you would get it to 100, then reset the streak

To reset it you must first make sure your order is NOT complected, (so green text "tap here to sign") either through daily reset OR using a pen. Then when it's green, u use a pen on the shield to remove it. (then keep this order uncompleted until daily reset.

Hope that vid helps

[wary girder]

youre a legend mate

[dapper prism]

PS: Using pens gives orders a shield and protects your streak from reseting, since certain breakpoints give bonus boxes.

Other purpose of pens = rerolling an order you cant fullfill. But 99.999% of your PO boxes will come from compelteing Order 1

[granite grove]

do make sure you have a good source of pens before doing this though, ideally around 10 pens/hr

[wary girder]

right that was another question, I thought if I hit like a streak of 25 every complete would give +1 so I also thought I was messing something up there

yeah once I get all my chars out of being div rats ill try to see how many my dk can get

[dapper prism]

Yeh, just keep in mind there's a whole setup to go through to properly get them.

Do you have choco chip?

[wary girder]

thats one of the lab chips?

if so then no

i've only got 3 lab chips as I rushed through w4 pretty quickly

[plush gale]

75% to instantly respawn a crystal mob when killed

Gamechanger

[dapper prism]

Sadly only next time choco is available is Decemebr 27. (or gamble in gem shop weekly)

[wary girder]

does the gem shop weekly give you chips you dont own?

[dapper prism]

Any

[wary girder]

not sure how the chip system works in terms of double ups etc

[granite grove]

gives all of available chips, randomly ofc

[dapper prism]

The Jewel one gives NOT owned only.
The lab chips gives any of the 22. So easily be able to get doubles etc.

[wary girder]

yeah right so probs not worth the gamle

gamble**

[dapper prism]

yup, 1/22 chance, 7 attempts a week that may cost a bunch in terms of gems

[granite grove]

only good to okay if you have enough disposable income/budget, otherwise just wait

[wary girder]

also question about div, ive got harriep now and have all 10 of my chars sitting on mantra until lvl 25 div does that sound about right?

also got them all linked to bear so that my lab bonuses are active

[dapper prism]

Eh, i will always say the same, Focus > anything early on, as all you want is Gods and more gods. Especialyl until Goat. since Focus is 4pts/h base and anything else is either 1 or 2. (early on)

At least that way you can do lab+div asap

Also your div multiplier is just trash early on

[granite grove]

could be better to have 1 char doing something else to benefit from lab bonus (like x2 kill pushing) while other 9 does divinity

[wary girder]

yeah true, when you have goat does your div gains go off your active style in div?

[granite grove]

or yeah do other stuff after getting bear, get resources up for divinity multipliers first

[dapper prism]

or instead of pushing grinding the early stuff, card chance cards, dr cards, crystal cards, obols

since 2x kills from lab won't affect that

[wary girder]

this is my current lab setup just cause idc about the active dmg/pushing multis atm cause yeah all 10 chars on div

[dapper prism]

Ah you have doot

[wary girder]

nah I dont

i wish lol

[dapper prism]

oh nvm, u got all on bear atm?

[wary girder]

yeah thought that was the best atm tbh

wasnt sure if snakey boi affected div gains

[dapper prism]

Doesn't

Could always toss nobi on 1 char to push. Most important person to reach last zone w5 is bubo for CC+highest level+money

[wary girder]

made the right call then good to know lol, im currently trying to set up my salts to the recommended levels

[fast grail]

Anyone have any other tips to squeze out more def? Cant quite make the w5 amulet, need frost prince and could try to farm more golden meat pies, but not sure what else i can do in short term to reach goal

[wary girder]

my es is currently lvl 175 while all other chars are sitting at like 100-110

[solid python]

am I misunderstanding something

[fast grail]

Gone through evrerything i can think of, and all of it seems out of reach or more long term

[solid python]

or is it not right the tooltip

[dapper prism]

confused why does that need def?

[plush gale]

Poopy Pickaxe gives some minor def iirc

[fast grail]

Arbitrary goals

[dapper prism]

DG, alchemy, stamps

[fast grail]

DG?

[solid python]

0.38 x 193 =/= 2?

[dapper prism]

dungeon flurbo

[granite grove]

its a very tiny multiplier that gets nasty if you have really high total meal levels

[fast grail]

ah

[granite grove]

like 1.01 (skill multiplier) ^ 2000 (tot meal level), weak early but absurdly powerful once cooking is pushed through enough

[fast grail]

higher level pickaxes give more def anyways

[dapper prism]

||https://i.imgur.com/FT31JLi.png||

It gets extremely strong

[solid python]

I understand but the % isnt adding up

on mine

[dapper prism]

Think the math was different

[granite grove]

its stacking multipliers, not stacking additively

[dapper prism]

people keep bringing it up

[solid python]

so what's the calc causing mine to be 2% then

at like 200 meal level

[granite grove]

1.0038 ^ 193

now try 1.0038 ^ 2000 and the result is already huge despite same skill level

[tight ridge]

maybe next week

[solid python]

oh its exponential

ok I see now

[opaque sun]

marrow has bad wording as it applies “%” twice in the actual formula

[solid python]

ok thank you

[dapper prism]

free pet is weekly reset right? not some "time after you claim it"

[tight ridge]

its a week from when u claim it :))

[opaque sun]

in reality it takes more than bit a week depending how fast you can free roll as soon as the cd is done

[tight ridge]

huge gains

[tranquil surge]

dayum

didnt realize how nuts the cabbage upgrades really are

[sacred monolith]

Yeah its easily overlooked

I think many fail to take advantage of the second two upgrades on most of the kitchens

[little harbor]

this work on multiple toons afk at one, or collect all on one?

[granite grove]

can collect afk from multiple sessions

[tight ridge]

is this just a quality of life prayer

[granite grove]

yes, also more than just qol if used on happy hours

[tight ridge]

so i should always have it on if im gonna dungeon

[woven sphinx]

Are you able to login to your account on idle efficiency because whenever I go one the site it puts me into some random guys profile "z_3" or it puts me in the leaderboards but there's never a button to put in your own account

[bleak gazelle]

Is there an option to sign out?

[woven sphinx]

Nope

[bleak gazelle]

And you're just going to https://www.idleonefficiency.com/ yeah?
Could try clearing browser cache or just use a different browser for it

Granted clearing cache is such an annoyance most of the time

[woven sphinx]

Nvm going on that link works

Thks

[placid mural]

My hope of an update is dwindling

[bleak gazelle]

Does he normally update two weeks in a row?

[lapis mesa]

SHweet

[pine pond]

140th boss

[heavy moth]

gratzz

[cloud breach]

!만트라

[pine pond]

😭

[frigid acorn]

And yet the pendant ?

[heavy moth]

juicyyy DR

[lapis mesa]

only showing off 4x mine right now -_-

[modern plaza]

100B more till Snail :0 maybe tomorrow morning 😄

[oak hemlock]

Its on SB?

[pine pond]

bubo

[oak hemlock]

Oh,nice

All dr cards 6 lvl?

[pine pond]

missing blue berry

😭

[oak hemlock]

xD

[heavy moth]

i share the same feeling XD

[pine pond]

was hoping for summer event this year, but i dont think so

[heavy moth]

would be nice some more candies are needed

and event card

[pine pond]

i just got these today

so im not stressing on candies

xD

but more would be nice

[heavy moth]

colo or you farmed doot and hourglass

[pine pond]

mostly giant mobs

[heavy moth]

ohh was your weekly reset 😛 nice drop

i still got these but theres never enough candy

[pine pond]

sadly i use mine :C

[rustic moat]

lets goo

[pine pond]

fuck youuu

[heavy moth]

and been lazy on those ahah

[rustic moat]

😦

[pine pond]

same bro

[heavy moth]

yea i need to use mine to finish supoerchowing W4 and DN

[pine pond]

xD yeah ive been pushing DN alot

[raven fog]

anyone knows the checkpoints for the knight with the enhancment ?

[heavy moth]

how much dmg you got now 😮

[pine pond]

i can hit 2trill now

[heavy moth]

on bubo 😮 ?

[pine pond]

yes

[oak hemlock]

@pine pond u have full boss set?

[raven fog]

no i meant

[pine pond]

ofc

[raven fog]

how many lvls to put in the knight with the enhansment

[pine pond]

max?

[heavy moth]

nice 😮 i have some catching up to do

[oak hemlock]

How much dmg u lose without all stat bonus on magma set?@pine pond

[pine pond]

i dont use full set on bubo

[modern plaza]

comon get lucky charms 😛

[pine pond]

whats lucky charms? 😮

[raven fog]

acc there is some useless points because its not about time itss about how many hits he does

[pine pond]

just reset and check

talent resets are free

[raven fog]

ahhh i give up am not a min maxer so i will max it

[pine pond]

probably

[rustic moat]

lol

[heavy moth]

ahha yea started to trash these only getting them

[pine pond]

i love how i just unlocked this

and its almost maxed

💤

[raven fog]

ay great obals but i still dont use them until i go offline

[pine pond]

took me 140 bosses for my first cape

so

xD

[raven fog]

wow bad luck?

[pine pond]

very

[raven fog]

bro injust maxed my logs and ores vials and u are maxing the bugs daim

[plush gale]

Nobisect's minor link bonus should be reflected in my damage right? I didn't check my damage beforehand, but it barely went up if at all

I feel like a 130% dmg bonus should be noticable lol

[pine pond]

may have to cloud save. 😛

for it to change fully

[raven fog]

i got the pendent os chicotic on 3rd try than stoprd farming him

[pine pond]

working on w3

😦

💤

[heavy moth]

😮 you got a whole world ahead i stop doing it since doot cause each candy i use pains me ahah

[plush gale]

Seems like the bonus is just significantly weaker than it seemed, I went from 24b dmg to 27b

[raven fog]

bro u didnt do wood mush skill issues

i only have that skull on gmush

[pine pond]

i will eventually

it'll take alot of candies to do it

[raven fog]

skill isuues

but acc great death note

u do 3 times my kills on gmush

so should i push deathnote ?

or should i farm the boss

[magic oyster]

With the trapper totem, when you collect all does it reset the traps with your current stats, or does it keep the stats they were originally set with ?

[placid mural]

WTB Obol presets for each chararcter! (skilling and combat) plz lava lol

[cosmic tendon]

Original

[magic oyster]

And in life's unanswerable questions : Hampters : whyyyy ? ;p

[covert prawn]

My Riftwalker finally has the most drip out of my characters. :3 I should have rolled them though. Can't be bothered to min max that far.

[placid mural]

so trying to work something out, one of my DKs is gettting almost 2x the construction experience that my much higher level DK is getting (210m/hr vs 130m/hr) but i cannot figure out where the difference is coming from

[versed sapphire]

whats better 2 bb or 2 sb

[modern plaza]

bubo or blood barbs?

[raven fog]

u can rokk stat obals

[mossy trellis]

Does a gem tier list exist that includes w5?

[versed sapphire]

barb

[magic oyster]

I think you can make good argument for either 2BB or 2SB - 2BB covers a long weak spot of no cooking progress while you chow everything and sampled fish are a weakpoint for some stuff

[versed sapphire]

what is sb even good for in the first place

[modern plaza]

yeah 1 sb and 1 hunter is enough imo

[magic oyster]

AFK farming and sailing mostly, sort of disappears eventually as you progress

[jaunty jasper]

does the dk orb work on the boss?

[willow drum]

why would you need 2 barbs

[modern plaza]

fishing is slow, and so is cooking, hmm idk lol

but true i'd run more mages if it was up to me lol...

[sour oasis]

Is there a reason my pets are dying even when they have 30,000% block chance

[versed cypress]

caus eb lock chance caps at 90%

[sour oasis]

shouldve known it was too good to be true

[versed cypress]

its why the team to get to 200+ has a shield and not an eggshell

[sour oasis]

I was just trying for 125

For the 6th slot

died at 105

115**

[opaque sun]

construction obol is weirdly coded to give exp penalty on the active character, is also the reason why people say its best to active on BB for optimal construction (exp)

[versed cypress]

dunno if the shield strat can be done with 5 pets

[opaque sun]

Basically “active bb for construction” uses bb as the scapegoat to suck up the bugged exp penalty

but since bb sucks at active farming, people decide on one DK to be the “sub-construction DK” and use him to wear construct obol and do active farming, while focusing the construction exp on the other

[versed sapphire]

anyone got some tips for power levelling stamps?

[opaque sun]

Go through each stamp, use the quick storage one to upgrade it up to where you can, then just wait for daily discounts to work on them further

[versed sapphire]

dont have atom collider :p

[opaque sun]

then aim to get that (and rift stamp mastery) is the obvious choice

[tranquil surge]

anyone know why my diner delieverer quest is bugged?

its saying zero for all three reqs which are actually all completed as they are shared between characters

ahh nvm google says just have to wait and upgrade it once more

[versed sapphire]

can someone with like 2.5k stamps send me their IE i wanna see

[tranquil surge]

https://srslybro69.idleonefficiency.com/

theres mine with 1700 if that helps?

no atom collider either

im probably gonna go smash some upgrades on them now that you mentioned stamps tho with ones i have crazy amounts of supplies for

[versed sapphire]

thnx dude

[obsidian nacelle]

anyone have what a proper 3d printer should look like? i need to update mine so i can start doing atoms and upgrading alchemy bubbles

[tranquil surge]

how many slots you got will make all the difference

if you have all of them from gem shop youll be 10x more efficent than someone with only 4

because of how the ancient relic thingy from sailing works

less resampling

but sadly no i cant help you you're defineitly ahead of me :p

about four years ahead by the looks haha

[obsidian nacelle]

i appreciate the advice tho!

[sweet mountain]

Nice free roll... guess I will try again next week.

[tranquil surge]

how do i upgrade stamps that have like items that dont stack?

eg a bronze axe

[sweet mountain]

large inventory?

[opaque sun]

and cost reductions

[tranquil surge]

i see

[sweet mountain]

Do golden statues currently matter which character deposits then? Or should I keep depositing with the same character?

[lapis mesa]

ive never noticed it matter

though that means.. nothing really

[sweet mountain]

I think it did at first, pretty sure I noticed that and opted to always deposit on the same. But if it currently doesn't matter is another issue >,<

[opaque sun]

Like thats the whole point to make it golden

[tranquil surge]

yeah once you pay for the golden part it doesnt matter

[sweet mountain]

Again, perhaps I was just too careful. But I remember that before the golden statue wasn't a collective thing, just the highest statue among your characters for that particular one.

Like, the top bonus for some could've come from the warrior, for others the ranger, etc...

[opaque sun]

you just had to worry who to deposit during the very early stage before you had it golden

[ebon thunder]

For divinity, I only need to link to the god on one character for it's buff and blessing to be effective for all my characters, right? Do I need to keep the link character on the divinity altar thing for it to be effective?

[swift pecan]

Major bonuses and minor ones affect the linked character. The blessing bonus affect all.

[ebon thunder]

Then does the blessing for the divinity gain % only effective (the 1sr snake god thing) on that one character while linked to the god, or always effective?

[swift pecan]

Sorry misspoke in the previous, unless the bonus says it's for all character, it's just the linked. The family bonus is for all characters.

[ebon thunder]

I see, tq for the info

[swift pecan]

Np

[opaque sun]

blessing doesnt need to linked to take effect

[ebon thunder]

So I need to link each character individually for each god for the effect right?

[swift pecan]

Correct

[sharp wind]

Doot for happy life

[tender pine]

My kills per hour on Purgatory Stalkers was being weird, first it was at 10k then when I cloudsaved and came back it was at 5k, then I switched characters and then back to the one with the issue and it was at 7k, any ideas on what could’ve happened? I have Nobisect linked and killer’s bright side was on in the lab.

[sharp wind]

Check ur card or anything that boost damage and afk gain

[tranquil surge]

@versed sapphire managed to get from 1781 stamp overall to 2077

[versed sapphire]

damn thats crazy

[tranquil surge]

ran out of coin tho lol

i havent upgraded stamps in a while so they were falling behind hard

and the 3d printer samples i have are ridiculously sized

[versed sapphire]

im at like 750 total xd

[tranquil surge]

3d printer is your friend just go for max efficiency everything you can think of before you sample

then wait like 24 hours and all of a sudden your gaming

cash is the problem tho

i needa start hitting that w4 collesuem

it gives so much

[lavish quiver]

Need gmush if you need coin

[tranquil surge]

is that the mushroom you drop the barrel on?

[lavish quiver]

No green mushroom world 1

[tranquil surge]

ahh

yeah havent farmed that properly yet

[crude flower]

is job infinilyte out ?

[tranquil surge]

ive got so much shit to do im still real early w5

[solid epoch]

Just Vman rn

[tranquil surge]

currently progressing towwards vman and anvil 4 is the goal well keeping up with alch and obols

and smashing out the tower upgrades because thats whats stopping the anvil iv

those blue souls are rooood

[lavish quiver]

wait your in w5 without anvil 4 yet?

[tranquil surge]

yup

[crude flower]

how can i send picture ?

[tranquil surge]

im upto like the red skulls in w5

furtherest progression

only just unlocked the chiozar helm

yesterday

[lavish quiver]

Yea you got a bit of older stuff to focus on still i see

[tranquil surge]

i started playing a couple days after i joined the server

in march

so im seriously rushed

before*

press the plus icon to the left of where you type

upload file

[willow drum]

you need to talk more to get a role before you can send images.

[lavish quiver]

I dont think you can cause you havent talked enough

[tranquil surge]

ahh

[crude flower]

ahahaha

[solid epoch]

Not too bad, my friend hit w5 before having that anvil tab too so I think if ur pushing worlds that's just what happens now

[tranquil surge]

cant you just set a role in one of the channels>

?

[willow drum]

different role

[lavish quiver]

Crazy

[tranquil surge]

thats the meta now tho because the w5 skills just skyrocket your other worlds anyway

so its silly not to rush it

its just difficult to manage because of how inefficient everything is haha

[willow drum]

rush it so you can go back and complete everything at once it's efficient but overwhelming

[crude flower]

carrot server 20, W5 slugma

i saw infinilyte

[willow drum]

infinilyte isn't real. that's a cheater.

[tranquil surge]

whats that supposed to be? a mob?

[willow drum]

elite class for vman

[tranquil surge]

oh right

[lavish quiver]

Yea i would do the same, cadies made w4 easy guess its just hard to believe its that easy now

[willow drum]

i mean the requirements to clear portals in w4 are 10x easier than they were before

[lavish quiver]

Oh yea i forgot that happened as well

[tranquil surge]

its ridiculous tho because

i can survive on a level 120 bb in nothing but full dementia on w5 effortlessly

[willow drum]

you can do w5 in amarok gear

gear means nothing

[tranquil surge]

the only time i had to upgrade the food was when i hit stiltmole

ahh

[willow drum]

alchemy is everything

[tranquil surge]

is it ok to ignore the sigils for a while

and focus solely on the bubbles or is that not reccomended

[willow drum]

don't touch sigils until you unlock every bubble

[tranquil surge]

ok

[willow drum]

no pendent or wings

[vernal depot]

yo guys, is DK or ES better on wurms for w5 keys farming?

[opaque sun]

for most people, DK will do better for wurm keys

ES will require lot of damage where it gets better than DK since wurm map gives lot of advantage to DK than usual

[willow drum]

earyl game dk later on es

although my bubo has farmed them pretty well

[vernal depot]

ES dmg is in the 30B, is that far from ES>DK?

[opaque sun]

It requires lot of work for ES to do better than DK for keys like few ten T of damage

[vernal depot]

damn alright, thanks

[opaque sun]

DK can get like 900 orbs at wurms, while the chonky base hp of wurms goes against ES’s wormhole mechanic

[sweet mountain]

For the snail, should I YOLO until when before upgrading my chances? Currently at lvl 7.

[opaque sun]

Mathematically, snail doesnt need encouragement until lv12

[sweet mountain]

Okay. That's what I wanted to know. Thnks

[opaque sun]

Past lv12 there are “mathematically optimal number of encourages” per level and the image was somewhere in the discord

[spare sigil]

Is bubo conjurer still a meta now?

Or is it outdated

[sweet mountain]

not on pins, let me check the bot command on the bot channel

[willow drum]

depends on what you need. bubo is good for alchemy and farming gold. es is better for farming mats / rare mats. DK is better for farming statues

[opaque sun]

meta of what depends

[sweet mountain]

nope. not there, so time to see cf I can find this info on google.

[opaque sun]

Try searching “optimal snail” in the discord

[crude flower]

!merit 5

[ocean matrix]

!merits 5

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[scenic gate]

meal

[hollow wasp]

cards and obols are best farmed with divine knight?

[willow drum]

cards = vman i'm pretty sure

[opaque sun]

for mob cards ES does well along with farming other stuff

[hollow wasp]

oh okay.

and obols ES ye?

[opaque sun]

Most Obols are dropped from crystals, so DK

[hollow wasp]

oh are they? pop obols are from gigafrogs, no? when crystals spawn at gigafrogs theres a better chance to get pop obols?

[opaque sun]

well i didnt know you were talking about pop, for them ES

[quartz fiber]

GUYS, I BELIEVE IN DOOT

jut got free slug

[willow drum]

es for pop

[quartz fiber]

I was trembling

[bright rock]

yo, is exp converter talent meant to work with gaming?

[quartz fiber]

slowest panic atack ever

[willow drum]

exp converter is bad

[wooden rampart]

Guys.. pray for me. I am just starting my grind to gather Hampters to start getting weapons for my toons

[bright rock]

i know but i get trillions of exp from gaming so i figured it could be used to level up my characters ive left behind, it just seems to give zero though

[willow drum]

it's probably not setup to work with gaming because coding is hard work

give lava more money and maybe he'll consider fixing it

[radiant harbor]

Fine 💳

[wooden rampart]

dont "give". Buy gem offers. lol or subscribe to his twitch.

[placid mural]

It happened gents!

[willow drum]

nah just send it to his bank account he'd probably listen

[radiant harbor]

ive been stuck on the eldritch max skill level for weeks

[quartz fiber]

Is it worth to farm the 100M kills with the blood berserk for the cooking speed from Void talent? it feels too small compared to the void cooking talent

[quartz fiber]

It's either this, or having cooking to get more cooking hours

[willow drum]

absolutely it's a massive bonus

[lone root]

may i ask if the div exp talent from es stack?

[wooden rampart]

1m kills on blood berserkers on certain mobs is really quick to do as well

[willow drum]

they don't

[lone root]

ty

[quartz fiber]

i have this, im talking about the bonus from the void talent enhancement eclipse to chow

[lavish quiver]

Yes its worth

[quartz fiber]

Ty! will keep at it then. W1 is not too bad, about 1M kills per hour

[willow drum]

even just a few of them will give massive gains

[quartz fiber]

Also, another question. Just got the 25lvls from slug but my archers didnt get 25 anvil points. is this bugged? I have checked and they have the max skill points so it's not like they were in the negative numbers before

[obsidian nacelle]

well , started the tedious task of doing a lot of resampling on all of my chars. learned that my skill mastery is trash and had to work on that instead. so now i have 7 people fishing - FISHING

[modern plaza]

just candy/divinity orb that

[halcyon basalt]

thats alot of bubbles

[obsidian nacelle]

you right, but also sleep and work XD

[hollow wasp]

multikill does not increase pop obol chance, right? so only droprate is what u need to farm better pop obols.

so in general i could just equip all drop rate i have and park my ES for 10h there active. i dont lose alot when i would do it at a later stage

[opaque sun]

basically just drop rate (and drop rate mechanics like orb/wormhole)

[hollow wasp]

3.47x is what droprate i have rn

[opaque sun]

may want to filter out mob mats so it doesnt fill your bag and lag the game

And may want to filter out other non pop obols if you cant check back as often

[hollow wasp]

well i would be on the computer in this time so i would deposit alot of times

had my filter for that for gigafrogs

[willow drum]

3.47x is probably too low to get a decent amount. I'd suggest farming w2 obols first.

[hollow wasp]

wich and where?

[hollow wasp]

do they drop more often? lol

[opaque sun]

dice is easier and more impactful

[hollow wasp]

what mobs do i want to be?

[willow drum]

sand castles is a good farm spot

[opaque sun]

sand pots or snelbie on dk

[hollow wasp]

with dk? yes?

why is it pop with ES and the others with dk?

[stiff prairie]

Pop is on front page, i assume dice is not

[hollow wasp]

ohh

check

so, sand castles, sand pots or snelbie?

best would be snelbie as t hey have good card too i think?

[opaque sun]

snelbies offer the most obol rate, but sandy offers comparable obol rate while also the important glass shards which offers most value for farming

[hollow wasp]

ye i go for sandy pots thanks

[wraith granite]

What are all the ways i can upgrade total skill level?

[hollow wasp]

ima grab my DK a better weapon and i go

[wraith granite]

Is there a way to check

[hollow wasp]

on weapons i always want main stat stones right? armor rn i have to make the accuarcy stat to have more acc. but i can swap the sets later on between chars so they have the main stats

[opaque sun]

by the time in w5, stone for main stat all the way

[hollow wasp]

i cant get to 25k accuarcy needed with main stats

my shaq is like lvl 10

14

[opaque sun]

thats the issue right there, shaq too low

[hollow wasp]

yep

need better samples for the fishies

i have 49/h

[true obsidian]

WTF game???

[obsidian nacelle]

do you mean increasing total skill level? because thats just leveling in whatever skill with your characters.

[wraith granite]

The max level

[hollow wasp]

what was this website to check cards again?

[wraith granite]

Idleontoolbox

[hollow wasp]

do i just go like this trying to farm the obols with my DK?

[obsidian nacelle]

the troller god has been trolled, but fr that sucks. Same Char ill assume?

[hollow wasp]

for starsigns 2% respawn 5% drop?

[tranquil surge]

does msa give the full amount of worship xp?

[true obsidian]

yes, it the same char

[tranquil surge]

or better to go to totem on every char

[magic oyster]

What cards do people use for lab ? I can only find 6 that seem obvious ( chaotic troll, amarok, biggie hours, bunny, chaotic effaunt, gelatinous cube ) - are there any others that have any impact ?

[wraith granite]

Did you first start killing them after you got the quest or before that

[true obsidian]

nope

[tranquil surge]

ive got wise cards on velk

but idk if they actually do anything

[opaque sun]

Quest doesnt count kills done before taking on quest, and active kills only counts base kills for quest due to how lava coded quest objectives

[true obsidian]

so when active, no multikill?

[magic oyster]

It still works, just not for quest objectives I think

[tranquil surge]

so in other words your better off to afk that quest?

[opaque sun]

same goes with the quest with suggma

[magic oyster]

Depends how much multikill you have I guess, and what char - active you might be killing 10x faster than afk rate on a bubo for example

[opaque sun]

Active only counts base kills for quest objectives

[tranquil surge]

i did that suggma quest afk and it was pretty quick tbh

i dont afk any char tho because im pleb heh

i will eventually start

active*

prob on gmush will active

and go from ther

[magic oyster]

Try bubo active first, will make you feel like you have wasted your life on alchemy ;p

[tranquil surge]

o

oh no

how does bubo boos

ohhhh

the cranium cooking ofc

[magic oyster]

Yeah, cranium cooking would be reasonably balanced but tentaclye reduces it's cooldown so you can use it many many times a day

[tranquil surge]

i dont have that

i dont think?

wait what is that tenta

[lavish quiver]

You will never get as much kills as afk on gmush, dont active it

[tranquil surge]

ahh

where is a good place to active then?

eg to farm wormholes or plunder kills

[lavish quiver]

depends, need a specific resource?

[tranquil surge]

nah just to boost my wormholes etc

[lavish quiver]

Try to combo it with something im sure you need some other resource

[magic oyster]

I don't think it really matters for wormholes or plunder

[tranquil surge]

ok lets say frog legs

that better place?

[hollow wasp]

but farming mob drops compared to ES is soooo much slower. i only use DK because i want the rare drop table to be rolled more often, right? for the obols

[viral snow]

Dk for rares
ES for normal droptable

[tranquil surge]

it does in a sense that in w5 i dont do enough damage to even farm any wormholes etc

[hollow wasp]

sorry dk. ye i made a typo

[tranquil surge]

@magic oyster

[hollow wasp]

i have like 70 orb kills when it runs out at sandy pots, is it fine to farm the obols?

[tranquil surge]

because i have zero multikill

or very low anyway

[lavish quiver]

are you farming wormholes for that talent? cause that talent isnt that great and i wouldnt tunnel vision it

[tranquil surge]

for the 1m achievement

gotta start somewhere haha

[lavish quiver]

oh ok

[tranquil surge]

goal is probably about 10k on each then forget about it for a while

seeing as its power of 10

[lavish quiver]

It just happened over time for me while collecting resources with ES

[tranquil surge]

and some of em are at like 160 total wormhole

yeah but that extra boost at early game would be massive

you'd think

say 160 up to 1k

or 10k

[viral snow]

I would rather focus on getting mats and seeing the achievement as a byproduct

[tranquil surge]

achievements well out of reach so yeah mats for sure

but just to get the ball rolling

massive multikill is best right

and has to be done active so therefore gmush upto 1k on each char wouldnt hurt

[lavish quiver]

multikill doesnt effect the count to my understanding its a 1:1 for the talent

[viral snow]

What do you meqn gmush up to 1k on every char ?

[tranquil surge]

for wormhole kill farming

[viral snow]

And yes multikill does not effect kill count for wormholes
Only item drops

[tranquil surge]

get 1000 wormhole killcount on gmush

then move onto next char

rather than do it on say frogs and it take longer

or it doesnt work like that? lol

[lavish quiver]

ES is the only one with wormhole and like i said its a 1-1 kill, multikill wont make it go faster

[viral snow]

Difference in frogs and gmush should be minimal
Biggest factor is your cooldown of the portal

[tranquil surge]

right i see so essentially any 1hko mob

and just put as many talent points into it as possible

[viral snow]

The bigger the portal number the bigger the hp of the portal mobs

[lavish quiver]

Well to a point, lower hp mobs you will get to a higher portal

[tranquil surge]

i see

so therefore gmush will be fastest as its the lowest hp mob in the game lol

[viral snow]

Yes
But you will benefit alot more if youre doing it on something you need for alchemy for example imo

[lavish quiver]

Agreed

[tranquil surge]

ok sweet noted

[opaque sun]

Its not really worth to go gmush active just for wormhole kills while you can get vials and other stull and wormhole kills on other mobs

[tranquil surge]

well il go to a w1 mob anyway

and just focus on one with the least drops

[viral snow]

Their hp scales exponentially i believe
So for me whole w1 is pretty much the same count at the end
The difference is minimal

[tranquil surge]

in storage

or one that i can farm obols on

[viral snow]

You could do gmush and use it on your second bubble in alchemy if youre lacking some there

[tranquil surge]

il have a look

second bubbles already one of the higher ones

4th bubble is the bloody thread that ones just pain

[viral snow]

For obols you wanna do the last map
As theyre giving you pop obols

[tranquil surge]

ok il probably sit there then and farm pops

[lavish quiver]

Yea farm giga frog you may get some pops

[tranquil surge]

i mostly want them for fragments atm

[viral snow]

Could also pop in some card drop cards and get that 4star on giga frog card

[tranquil surge]

but is pop one you should be saving or melting down

[lavish quiver]

save

[tranquil surge]

best one to melt down?

[lavish quiver]

thats DR

[viral snow]

Pop give you droprate so save

[tranquil surge]

oh right

i see

which is best for farming frags?

prefs w1

[lavish quiver]

w2 is where i farmed frags

[tranquil surge]

on sandys?

[viral snow]

I think you would wanna use dk for that
Since the other obols are in rare drop tables

[opaque sun]

for frags, w2 dk. On w1, beans on dk but much lower frags than w2

[lavish quiver]

crystals

but you need a good set up for those

[opaque sun]

Dont try to do too many things at once

[pastel bramble]

anyone else have vman bug where the kills per hour arnt accurate to whatu actually get?

not a food issue as he has a stack of 256k and auto-refill

[serene kiln]

Where’s the best place for active bubo?

For W4

[magic oyster]

Depends on how high your damage is - cans and flombeiges are pretty good in w4

[serene kiln]

Do I need to be able to one shot?

[pastel bramble]

best place is oranges for cranium cooking if u have damage

for xp its wurms

[magic oyster]

No, but the closer you are to one-shotting the more effective it is

[opaque sun]

floms for bubo in w4

[serene kiln]

Ty

[magic oyster]

Man, I am embarassingly awful at the fishing game, that trophy is permanently out of reach I suspect ;p

[lavish quiver]

What would be a good/decent score on poing to get? or is that multi really not worth

I have avoided it for a while due to it being lagy at times

[opaque sun]

only clear goal is the achievement for poing

[stuck elbow]

pong is fun

[lavish quiver]

Alright i got that so just wont touch it anymore

[lavish quiver]

I agree but it can be buggy/laggy which mess you up

[opaque sun]

yeah the poing bar can sometime move around on its own

[hollow wasp]

when i dont got 1 obol within 1 hour, is it even worth farming?

[opaque sun]

There isnt a clear line for that and only you can decide

[hollow wasp]

feels like wasted time

[glad hamlet]

What’s your current drop rate on dk while going for obols?

[hollow wasp]

3.5x

[glad hamlet]

Hmm around the same amount when I did my set

[dapper prism]

crystal rate with choco chip is more important for dice obols

[glad hamlet]

Ah yea if you don’t have the chip it’s not even worth considering

[hollow wasp]

i dont have

[dapper prism]

gotta get it though anyways since next choco is only December 27th, unless you gamble gem shop

[glad hamlet]

Honestly 70 orb seems really low aswell I’d get more levels and library it up

[hollow wasp]

70 orb is max due the respawns

[dapper prism]

inst arespawns

[hollow wasp]

1 mob is 1 orb kill, no?

[dapper prism]

yes?

[hollow wasp]

yes

[glad hamlet]

Yea but you have the respawn skill

[hollow wasp]

and if they dont respawn fast enough

i cant kill more

[dapper prism]

Higher orb = higher timer

[hollow wasp]

oh

okay

[dapper prism]

DK insta respawnseverything though?

[hollow wasp]

does he?

[dapper prism]

..............

[glad hamlet]

Yes

The hand talent

[opaque sun]

like read each talent

[glad hamlet]

Forget what it’s called without looking

[hollow wasp]

ohh

[dapper prism]

If you arnt using that then you arnt using DK properly o.o

[hollow wasp]

i see ye

but its only when all are deawd

mostly they are 1-2 alive in a corner somewhere

[glad hamlet]

Either way dice isn’t worth going for without the chip

[vocal warren]

Oh hey trickz, where have you been? How are you?

[hollow wasp]

and then my guy runs there

[dapper prism]

Doing good, some family over for the next weeks so a bit mia

[glad hamlet]

Just go to gigafrogs with es if you want some dr still

[hollow wasp]

ye

thats what i do now

also cards

[dapper prism]

How are you doing?

[vocal warren]

Family can be a blessing, have fun with them

[dapper prism]

Yeh, some left today, so should have a little more time again

[vocal warren]

I'm alright thank you

[quaint grove]

In a two unit construction setup do you need a set of construction obols on one or both of them

You need at least one for snappshotting right?

[opaque sun]

Only one set you active (snapshot) on

[prisma drift]

Is a 4 star stilted seeker card just 2% all stats or does it actually include the .5%

[tranquil surge]

ooooo

first char just hit 10m damage once i got one of those card chips

[opaque sun]

it should be adding the 0.5%. Juat limitation of UI not showing decimals

[prisma drift]

Cool wanted to make sure I didn’t 4 star it for nothing

Still need a bunch of pearler shells to get everyone full tooled

[covert sphinx]

whats the best cape for oak or copper samples?

[opaque sun]

the afk gain yellow rose cape from valentine

[narrow cloak]

squire buildrate talents only work while online with squire? or can you get em to work after coming back from afk somehow?

[rare aspen]

does anyone elses game freeze during kattlecruk nightmare?

[rare grove]

are you playing on mobile?

[rare aspen]

no steam

[wraith granite]

what's the best way to get instablab followers?

[umbral dust]

Should I only login to divinity character after hour or does it also count minutes?

[wraith granite]

oh i was also thinking that when i was starting on divinity but im not sure if they add up

[umbral dust]

yeah I'm now 3h 50mins afk. Thinking if I wait 10mins or does it matter

[gaunt island]

rats, should be easy enough with 15x+ mk

[wraith granite]

tyty

[umbral dust]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[wraith granite]

ill go throw all my candy away now

[visual lava]

ah I've forgotten. How does the construction thingy work. I go and check construction on the 2nd squire, then hop on the 1st one and don't check construction?

[gaunt island]

dont just complete Mutton qs on all chars, greenstack it first 😄

we are here for the long run after all ,_, those of us that remain

[glad crow]

wrong misc

[flat forge]

Im fucking WEEKS dry on artifacts, this game man

[gaunt island]

eldritch? or final ones? they takes ages indeed, hampter up ur gang so u get some prog from afk

[native dock]

how do i lvl the captains fast?

[gaunt island]

4x bottled wind from shop every day if ure tryharding, else just boat speed/afk claims+wait

[pulsar cliff]

Hated rerolling those obols lol. My frag stash vanished.

[glad crow]

i have managed to get 3 rolled to +6 now, som i only need one more

[pulsar cliff]

Oh nice! I'm putting one on everyone, more or less

Gonna need to do a resampling soon, but more or less out of sampleable vials for my VMan 😦

[crude pecan]

Can someone explain to me why my mats in storage dont go higher then 1050 million?
My atom collider is turned off. Am i doing something wrong?

[pulsar cliff]

1050 is the hard cap no matter what.

[strong socket]

everything after 1050 is turned into atoms

[gaunt island]

bruvs out there sittin' on 1b mats :< gieb

[tough tusk]

are you okay in your mind?

[pulsar cliff]

Well - If your collider is turned off, I assume it's actually just going into the aether.

[pulsar cliff]

That's what you need to finish off the vials haha.

[gaunt island]

not sure, why?

[spiral nimbus]

🐳

bottle winds are garbage ngl

[tough tusk]

in no world using gems to buy these is good tryhard or not

[pulsar cliff]

A lot of folks did it though so.

[gaunt island]

there are no other methods so regardless of your opinion its either that or slow grind though 🤷‍♂️

[tough tusk]

idiots that want to get it as fast as possible

[gaunt island]

even if ure getting 200 golden hampters a day its gonna take a while

[tough tusk]

yes its just not a good advice of buying these things

[pulsar cliff]

I don't really judge how people spend their money lol. Just fellas who wanted to finish that content as fast as possible.

[gaunt island]

compared to folks who dropped it on doot its not even 1/100ths that

[pulsar cliff]

I mean - I'm down to my last two and I'd love to be able to stop checking it so often.

[gaunt island]

doot is huge tho

[pulsar cliff]

You're under-estimating how much people dropped on winds haha.

[tight ridge]

bro what kattlekruk isnt in the last area omg

[pulsar cliff]

Nope!

[runic girder]

Be gratefull, gonna take a lot longer to get there

[pulsar cliff]

I personally do recommend you do all the quests for the mole fella before you do any nighmare Kattlekruk though.

[tight ridge]

i dont think i can do nightmare

this my damage rn

[pulsar cliff]

Divine Knight is probably the easiest one to do them on.

[gaunt island]

gieb a real mmo feature where we can boss-boost our friends :< I have a buddy with 250b dmg

[pulsar cliff]

I think that would be an awful feature, soary.

He's really not bad, doing it on Zerker and VMan are the only ones that really annoy.

[opaque sun]

0.2b is going to take hours to kill nightmare

[gaunt island]

like 40 hrs, anyone tried counting? xD

[tight ridge]

yeah im not thinking about the boss yet i was just surprised that he was in this area

[gaunt island]

bigole mole suppriseee

[tight ridge]

ill do the first couple quests i can for the merit shop

[gaunt island]

kruk tasks give 1 merit until the max, mind that when making calculations xD dont be like me

[pulsar cliff]

I thought the last 3 gave 2 or so? But I didn't pay a huge amount of attention.

[tight ridge]

i just want more sailing chest piles

i didnt know how sailing worked and maxed the xp thing first

[pulsar cliff]

The what thing?

[glad crow]

you will be fine

i put 14 point into the talent point one and i have enough

[tight ridge]

this thing

[gaunt island]

all 10 tiers were giving one point a week or so ago, unless fresh patch made it two :>

[tight ridge]

i had the sb talent on and saw my chests never got full so thought i didnt need it

then i realized the talent was a scam

[gaunt island]

exp is nice dont sweat it, u gonna need a ton of mats and upgrades until u can craft actual stuff anyway

[glad crow]

im currently meowing w5, so when that is finished, i will get that achiment, and get one point for the "achievement promethan" thingy, and then i will have enough point for getting the last kattle armor

[pulsar cliff]

What does Meowing mean in this context lol

[glad crow]

100m kills, aka superchow

on bb

[pulsar cliff]

OH gotcha.

Yeah just got to miner moles for my superchow. Almoooooost done.

[glad crow]

noice

[pulsar cliff]

Working on getting my second wing drop atm. At least nightmare kattle burns my keys fast lol.

[cyan shuttle]

IE added companions

[hushed forum]

do u have all chars farm keys and how many do u get per day?

[gaunt island]

all that work for a sheepie to waltz in and make it easy :>

[tight ridge]

the npc said kill moles till key drops not unlock the next portal xD

[pulsar cliff]

I have everyone at tremor wurms, I probably get ... 900 - 1k a day?

[runic girder]

I had to farm half an hour for 1 and then gave up on cattle for now lol

[gaunt island]

ye if u just got there focus on beefing urself up, aint very useful to beat ur head against wurms if u only kille a thousand or two per hour

[tacit tulip]

lol green egg

[runic girder]

Thats even a thing

[gaunt island]

shiny can

[pulsar cliff]

I saw someone with a void egg. Haven't seen green. Well done lol.

[runic girder]

Meant moles, i get troll keys from colo mostly

[hushed forum]

I assume activ dk is the best for farming the keys aktiv?

[untold saffron]

Just unlocked snail, should I be making the extra mail chance a priority to upgrade?

[runic girder]

Es if you got the damage

[pulsar cliff]

I believe that's how it's metting out right now, most of the late folks are just running DK for it.

[tacit tulip]

yeah, DK on wurms is about 50 an hour for me. ES portal keys doesn't keep up

[pulsar cliff]

It resets on upgrade, so not for sometime. I think people usually recommend ... 6 ? Or 7? level before they touch chance.

[runic girder]

Interesting, how about moles?

[tacit tulip]

I've not checked, but as the drop rate is 3x higher on wurms, I'd be surprised if it makes a difference

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah if you're looking to farm keys it should really be at Wurms lol.

Once you one shot everything it doesn't really matter so.

Rather, once you one shot everything it only makes sense to do wurms*

[tacit tulip]

ah yeah, 3x higher drop rate on wurms, but they have less than double health. Wurms for ES would be faster than moles, but DK on wurms will be faster than both anyway

[tranquil surge]

can you post guide videos in here?

cause holy shit

i managed to cheese the blue souls worship with this method

big ups to whoever this fella is haha

[gaunt island]

or just go old school bubo for money+alch (if u still want it, and you probably do)

[pulsar cliff]

Don't see why not.

[tranquil surge]

can finally get anvil tab IV now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w00CmPEvs5Y

i had to adjust for the fact that my towers are nowhere near his level so i put some pulse mages in the mix

but generally speaking this is the go to should be pinned haha

its ridiculous how hard this td is compared to the rest

[crisp silo]

Get void makes life ez

[pulsar cliff]

^

[tranquil surge]

pretty close to unlocking that tbh

[pulsar cliff]

I need to re do a bunch of my TD, just been lazy about it.

[crisp silo]

Then you can adapt the 120 setup

[tranquil surge]

its upto the upgrade part just waiting on making the salt and im like 650/750 for the salt prior

[little harbor]

how do you do this? avoid killing the ones with better skulls? only kill them when near lots of other monsters?

[tranquil surge]

to actually unlock the end salt

[crisp silo]

Use es/bubo
Click auto
Go outside for a walk

[gaunt island]

D:

[little harbor]

ok, was tryting on siegebreaker.

[gaunt island]

gotta love the no time limit rifts, ay rite

[crisp silo]

Bruh sb u aint gonna get that

[little harbor]

oh i did while typing this lol

[gaunt island]

ez

[gentle furnace]

sb is fine for it

[little harbor]

i just dont understand what the mechanic is actually doing. but if auto works then no worries i guess

[crisp silo]

If your damage is up to par, but i assume that for same dmg es/bubo against same dmg sb, es/bubo would clear faster

[pulsar cliff]

Mob has a skull.

You kill it, 50% chance it goes onto another random mob at the next level higher, 50% chance it disappears.

Rinse repeat.

[untold saffron]

win a coin toss like 7 times in a row basically

[signal kayak]

I'm unsure whether or not to craft Kattlecruk's gear, will it make my damage noticeably worse due to the lack of "all stats" bonuses? For context, I'm around 1000-2000M max damage not counting dmg cards/sets and struggling at rift 36 (75 sb kills on mafiosos)

[pulsar cliff]

From what I've heard it's a bit of a utility sidegrade.

It's not a massive dmg nerf.

[sick sentinel]

Its not a dmg set no, its good for DR and afk fighting

[tacit tulip]

right, 1400 keys. Cape pls.

[pulsar cliff]

I just did about that. No dice. BUT GOOD LUCK.

[tacit tulip]

My true goal is to make kattle armour for everyone, but the cape would be nice too

[pulsar cliff]

Already got the necklace?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

[signal kayak]

Great, thank you both!

[tacit tulip]

Infact, just got a second necklace lol 😄

[pulsar cliff]

Maaaaaaan jealous.

I've got one trophy but now I want moooooore.

[little harbor]

which one of these POW 10 talents should i focus on? was thinking siege breaker.

[tacit tulip]

DK or seige breakers are the most useful, though the SB one is the slowest to grind (about 4 months to get the achievement)

results of kattle keys, +3 obols

[jagged relic]

Did you do it on normal?

[glad crow]

no thasts nightmare

look at the stones

[jagged relic]

Oh, can you only get those on nightmare?

[glad crow]

yeah weapon stones is only nm

also how tf did you maanage to get 2 pendant in only 23 runs

[tacit tulip]

Luck I'd imagine 😄

No capes though, sadtimes

[gaunt island]

lucky as heck

scarf is so good, gonna take me weeks (months?!) to get to that level tho, not mentioning lucky lads and kruk xD

[tacit tulip]

The lucky lads are trivial with bubo

I'd imagine DK pisses them out too if not filtered