lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[granite grove]

if storage capacity is larger than 1050m limit, just if

[bold quiver]

i doubt lava will ever change this

[warm beacon]

Printer always deposits in the first stack in storage chest so if you have 1 stack of 1 log before your full stack all printer output gets deposited there

[cosmic tendon]

True thank u. With the diminishing returns on that it’s probably still worth it for me to print atoms

[sick sentinel]

if you have the space in storage then its not really a waste

[bold quiver]

wouldnt u be sacrificing slots for ore?

[sick sentinel]

i only do 10 stacks or copper

10 logs

[bold quiver]

do u know how much this help?

[sick sentinel]

nope lol

[cosmic tendon]

Wait ur stacking 10 x 1000m over printing atoms

[bold quiver]

hmm i think i'll try doing it, but if i cant get at least 10-15% higher samples i wont bother

[warm beacon]

Gets one extra power of 10 so however much that bonus helps for you

[sick sentinel]

dont really want to spend my copper to see the difference anyway haha

[cosmic tendon]

It’s an extra 1x the listed bonus on the talent

Actually nvm sorry

1b vs 10b is 1 power of 10

But there’s the atom thing and maybe others than make the improvement greater than that

[bold quiver]

its a logarithmic increase so every ore matters

[sick sentinel]

i'll check my stats in a sec so you can see what my talent says

printer going off in 15 minutes lol

[cosmic tendon]

What’s the number at the bottom of the talent?

Like 0.0025 or something

[sick sentinel]

there cloudsaved

not much dif there

[bold quiver]

yeaaaah i aint doing it lol

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah that’s more than a full stack for 1% eff

[bold quiver]

ill keep my chest clean kkkkkk

[sick sentinel]

who knows how it actually affects the mining tho

[cosmic tendon]

You have other things affecting it though like the atom

That affects power of 10 buffs

[sick sentinel]

and how the pow 10 atom does ye

[bold quiver]

it does but since its only a 5% increase it will hardly matters

[cosmic tendon]

But generally those are all very diminishing returns

[bold quiver]

that should be 1% higher sample

well at least its something for some min maxers out there

[cosmic tendon]

Once that’s more important than the atoms for u and u have chest space

[sick sentinel]

free easy efficiency 🤷‍♂️

[bold quiver]

yeah i just wont do it cuz it will destroy my chest aesthetic

https://tenor.com/view/princess-connect-re-dive-anime-scared-shocked-kyaru-gif-17602496

[cosmic tendon]

Thank you for the answer btw

The worst day was the first time I hit auto sort on my chest

[sick sentinel]

auto sort aint so bad, you get used to it

[bold quiver]

ohhh had u sorted things out yourself?

[bold quiver]

wait, "so bad"? why would it be any bad O.O

[sick sentinel]

for people that dont use it its bad

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I sorted from start and it was so easy

[sick sentinel]

i use it so it aint bad

[bold quiver]

ohh i see

true i've been using that since istarted

[cosmic tendon]

Not I’m used to auto sort and it’s about 75% as good

[bold quiver]

its sorted out by item types so easy to know where anything is at once u've used enough

[cosmic tendon]

My favourite part was all the quick access stuff and empty space on front page

[cinder flax]

at what map can I find the rift?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I can find stuff after a week or two of it but I had almost all of the same stuff on the same page

[winged lance]

Same for me then i Hit it again and sorted it out even better then the first time 😄

[bold quiver]

oh so whejn u deposited it went to first page

[cosmic tendon]

Top of octodar map near the end of w4

[bold quiver]

damn i can imagine your pain first time u clicked that kkkkkkk

[cosmic tendon]

Lol I was bored and thought I’d put it back if it sucked

But it doesn’t suck it’s easier overall, just a feeling thing

[void badge]

For chaotic W5 boss, what is the recommended dmg for VMan?

[bold quiver]

yeah i can imagine

[bold quiver]

10B

130B for easy fight

[sick sentinel]

thats nightmare

[bold quiver]

oh =X

[void badge]

yeah just asking about the mid guy

[sick sentinel]

chaotic is a lot easier

[void badge]

Poor little guy has terrible dmg multipliers

[bold quiver]

poor soul

[cosmic tendon]

Hp of chaotic is about 1/400

[bold quiver]

is this considered a underleveled bubble? i cant bring myself to actaly level this

but i also feel like id get a decent amount of DR if i leveled it to 1k

[bold quiver]

i believe u can do it '.'

[sick sentinel]

lol mines at 1000

[bold quiver]

too expensive bubble, needs discount tag to finish it

[gray thicket]

What does this achievement do? or does it start working next restock?

[bold quiver]

i dont have the material bags for everyone so i cant produce thread withut capping

[sick sentinel]

yeah i used all my 90 tags on it and got it to atom lvl

[cosmic tendon]

By 130 it’s at 105m which means it’s atom territory

[sick sentinel]

i just did it with sb deathnote candies

[bold quiver]

hmm fair enough

im finishing this, all those to 10M lol

[sick sentinel]

dont forget to take off vial doubler in lab

when close

[bold quiver]

oh yeah i do that

ill get to that one after i level up call me bob to 1K. its already 500 something

[cosmic tendon]

What which vial is bad for anvil?

[sick sentinel]

im doing bob now too

[void badge]

why?

[sick sentinel]

theres a vial for bubble cost reduction, so if you take that off when you are close to 100mil cost(atom range) it can take you over so you dont need to use the resources anymore

[cosmic tendon]

Oh gotcha makes sense thanks

[void badge]

there is?

I thought it was stamps

[bold quiver]

and on class cauldron u even hop out of the main class to have even less discount lol so u reach 100m faster

[void badge]

Platinum and Wurms both offer stamps discount

[void badge]

ohhhhh snap

Thanks forgot about that one

[sick sentinel]

yeah so its good to do that for hard bubbles like diamond chef or any production items

[bold quiver]

ohhhhh my diamond chef is so close to atom!!! only a few more days

[sick sentinel]

niiice

i got it there and used my upgrades on it one time then forgot about it lol

[bold quiver]

i made sure to push all the other yellow bubble that have normal material out of nblb range

too expensive right?

[sick sentinel]

before yes, but now i can sustain it

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/lynx-hype-furry-fursona-cat-gif-18666927

wanna finish this, then i'll forget construction exist again for another month lol

[sick sentinel]

the biggest thing was focusing atoms on chopping bubbles

daaamn

are those your lowest?

[bold quiver]

yes

im almost lvl 400 on squires so the 100 are dropping fairly easy

[sick sentinel]

i dont do cogs often lol

been doing a bit more lately tho

[bold quiver]

i needed to finish my player cosntruct exp directional setup, so i was like.. why not try finish this

[bold quiver]

Same. I prefer doing it at once while i watch a movie

so after im done only gonna focus there again when squires are probably over lvl 500-600

the real worst part is destrying the cogs '.' tahts annoying

[sick sentinel]

no cog frags sadge

[bold quiver]

they are just gone

[dull lance]

Is 1/5 bonus for prayers worth it?

[versed sapphire]

what do you guys think is the biggest source of instantly improved gains once you unlock a feature? like will unlocking rift instantly skyrocket progression?

[true kestrel]

Doot follower.

But just don't spend money on it, not worth it

[fathom lagoon]

Doot doot

[void badge]

Alright Bois I'll try it, I did a few changes to my VMan

Yolo Chaotic Cow

[untold saffron]

is a cap on party starter speed bonus for towers in TD?

[halcyon basalt]

whats the way to get more particle upgrades per day?

[void badge]

Had forgotten my cards, now im ready

[untold saffron]

atom collider upgrades

[halcyon basalt]

Whom are you fighting

[halcyon basalt]

Only through that? okk ty

[void badge]

Chaotic Cow

[halcyon basalt]

Chaotic should be doable yes

[untold saffron]

it'll also put you to your new cap every time you upgrade the atom so plan ahead

[halcyon basalt]

nightmare is another level

[real fable]

theres also an achievement to get 10 extra

[halcyon basalt]

what does that mean

[untold saffron]

if you have 24 daily, use them all and then upgrade the aotm you'll have 26 that day instantly

[signal osprey]

Upgrading boron resets your particle upgrades

[halcyon basalt]

ahhh i see

so use before upgrading

[void badge]

Lets goooooo

[halcyon basalt]

i gotta put my peeps on divinity to get harriep

time to switch things up and just afk them there for a while

[glad crow]

time to try to roll for good axe

[halcyon basalt]

best of luck

[versed sapphire]

whats a good way on stocking up on candies?

[glad crow]

2 of them was one off :C

[halcyon basalt]

giants

[sick sentinel]

giants and minibosses/coloseum

[halcyon basalt]

and stacking up orb kills for ^

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/6ec026d322a31bfc5e5b582fcc0be6bc.png

Money bout to go 📈

[halcyon basalt]

whats the prayer

[untold saffron]

coins from monsters

curse is more health

[sick sentinel]

jawbreaker, money for mob hp

[halcyon basalt]

for max health?

ah

is it a good amount

[sick sentinel]

yes, it has its own group multi i believe

[halcyon basalt]

daaaamn

[untold saffron]

might try push ruck sack as well for stamp upgrading

[runic girder]

Tower levels?

[untold saffron]

40 poison 46 party/frozen 50 storem

36 kraken

[runic girder]

Aah, still a bit from that

[sick sentinel]

do you have atom bonus dmg too

[untold saffron]

barely any, wizard tower is the only over 50 at 52

[halcyon basalt]

voidinator?

[steady cloud]

Just hit w5, everybody is meditating now, RIP this week XD

[untold saffron]

12

[halcyon basalt]

hmm

i might be able to do i too

[untold saffron]

just don't place a party top left where i did, it can't be upgraded or deleted

[runic girder]

Im a lot further away then i tought lol, im at lvl 27 poison

[untold saffron]

this is about to clear 110, it did 100 at a breeze

[halcyon basalt]

almost

[void badge]

This is going to take a looooooong time hahahaha

[halcyon basalt]

with 2bil ..yeah

get ready to spend an hour or so

just leave him afk

[runic girder]

I feel like my br might be low, cause i also have the atom bonus giving +2 levels but my poison is lvl 27

[void badge]

yeah Im watching videos on the side lol

[versed sapphire]

is crafting the post void class specific armor worth it or do i just skip it

[untold saffron]

the pope hat and such?

[halcyon basalt]

best armour is magma armor

[void badge]

for slab only

[untold saffron]

some of its decent

[runic girder]

Chiz, troll, magma, kattle

[halcyon basalt]

kattle should be only for endgamers that benefit more from dr than %stats

[untold saffron]

pope hat is ight, could use maestro gear too

[runic girder]

No clue what it gives, fought the dude once

[lyric sequoia]

No real point to use ore armour tbh

Just skip through the boss armours

[untold saffron]

you gain a lot of afk gains from respawn using kattle armour over molten

[halcyon basalt]

its not factually better than magma, its must more situational

[steady token]

can I use it mutiple times?

[halcyon basalt]

yeah but %stats really gives a boost with all the bubbles and artifacts

[untold saffron]

also fair

[lyric sequoia]

I mean not really. 2 parts of kattle are better for fighting afk, the other 2 are better for active bubo/DK where you don't really care about damage after 50-70b min damage since that's enough to still 1 shot socks with the prayers active

[steady token]

I heard these can use infinite times

[halcyon basalt]

well atleast at my point im not crafting kattle

im doin better with magma

[untold saffron]

cleared 110 waka

[halcyon basalt]

goood job

[untold saffron]

you'd be sound with this if you have decent worship stamp/meal levels

[halcyon basalt]

idk about the placement

and i cba to try it right now honestly

[placid mural]

if i am doing monster mat farming with ES, is it better to leave the DR prayer off so the multikill tier is much higher?

[halcyon basalt]

i'd say yeah

you already get an absurd amount of DR on the later mobs so

[untold saffron]

you also don't need DR for most mat farming

dead at wave 119

[halcyon basalt]

so close yet so far

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/e8a630715e2b0f4b74731c2dc2ec2961.png

[placid mural]

w3 TD?

[bold quiver]

does anyone know why my class exp is 30,8x on my ES and 20x on my SB?

[heady scaffold]

your es is your lowest lvl char?

[steady token]

superbit

[halcyon basalt]

DAAAAMN

subtle flex

[bold quiver]

oh........... that exist lol

[weary hinge]

where do you farm golden kebabs? w2 colo?

[sick sentinel]

yep

[halcyon basalt]

picnic quest

heh

[sick sentinel]

that too

[weary hinge]

im strugling to do picnic quest now, im kinda lazy lol

[bold quiver]

time to evoly my wand

[halcyon basalt]

then ig w2 colo and the PO order

[weary hinge]

wait what PO delivery?

second or third?

[halcyon basalt]

third i think

[weary hinge]

aight thanks!!

[halcyon basalt]

npnp

[sick sentinel]

might as well do po6 for colo tickets too lol

[halcyon basalt]

nooo that shit too expensive

[steady token]

do po2 for kebab? is it worth it?

[halcyon basalt]

po3

i do it anyway for boxes so

extra kebabs are good

[dreamy merlin]

i got an artifact from rocky peaks for the first time and it was the stupid arrow head

[steady token]

I can get 1 ticket avg every 11 pens from po6

[halcyon basalt]

Pens are fine

[steady token]

how many kebab/ pen can you get

[halcyon basalt]

the mats are hard lol

idk its not too often

[sick sentinel]

1/13 options of rewards

[steady token]

oh, not worth it

[halcyon basalt]

If you're doing them anyway y not

just an extra product

i do po1 and po3 for boxes

100, reset, wait a day and repeat

[viscid sandal]

how do you have so many pens? ;s farming them is brutal

[halcyon basalt]

active bubo

i got 2.1k in da bank

[viscid sandal]

where do you active bubo?

[halcyon basalt]

tremors

with choco chip and extra crystal spawn

[sick sentinel]

dk is good too, any crystal mob farm you can do

[steady token]

choco chip is a must

[sick sentinel]

bubo just also gets alch gains so its nice

[halcyon basalt]

if you wanna focus pens mostly dk is the best

[viscid sandal]

i see.. yeah doing dk right now and it still seems slow

how many / hr do you usually get?

[halcyon basalt]

with or without choco chip

[viscid sandal]

with choco chip and 1/34 crystal spawn rate

[halcyon basalt]

damn

[sick sentinel]

what map

[halcyon basalt]

i never counted myself

[viscid sandal]

I tried the bloodbones, but those seemed slow so I switched to Snelbies to get some luck obols

[void badge]

btw still going

[halcyon basalt]

expected

[steady token]

choco chip> card doubler> 5* cardifier

[sick sentinel]

bloodbones is the fastest pen farm...

especially with dk

orb lvl?

[viscid sandal]

263 orb lvl

[fervent flame]

Faster than oj?

[steady token]

bloodbones best

[sick sentinel]

for pure pens bloodbones is bst cause of the crystal drops being a smaller group thus being more often

[viscid sandal]

yeah i mean i don't mind switching it up... need to work towards 1b deathnote anwyay

Maybe I'm just expecting too much haha

[sick sentinel]

maybe, hows your DR?

[sick sentinel]

thats the main thing holding you back now

everything else is up there

[viscid sandal]

mm yeah... is there an updated drop rate table somewhere? I have no idea how ppl have 15x

[steady token]

👀 where to get that chat ring?

[viscid sandal]

err drop rate chart*
I was using the bot command one, and I don't see where ppl get the extra 7x

[viscid sandal]

legacy purchase

[sick sentinel]

here's mine, idk if there is an updated chart

[lyric sequoia]

Just get 800 orb counts, pens ezpz

[viscid sandal]

oh obols.. that would do it

[sick sentinel]

oh yeah if you dnt have teh obols yet crystal farm w2 for dice

[viscid sandal]

btw where do you check that?

[sick sentinel]

!it in the character screen

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[sick sentinel]

can hover some stats

[steady token]

you farm pens before farm obols?

[viscid sandal]

lol yeah i'm super unoptimized. Only started caring about fixing some stuff up since I got doot recently

[sick sentinel]

def get your obols done, you will be cruising after setting it up

OP stat

[viscid sandal]

i'll check out IT. Was using idleonefficiency.. didn't know that IT had more stuff than cards/builds

@sick sentinel can i see your obol setup?

[sick sentinel]

i've been using IT more than IE lately

[viscid sandal]

pers/fam

[sick sentinel]

!guide i think its the same as this

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[viscid sandal]

o ok ty

[tidal grove]

How do I get 5x Printer Output on every character with Doot? Cant seem to figure it out

[frigid acorn]

you mean 6x

[steady token]

6x from lab and rabbit

[frigid acorn]

lab node with harpier

[viscid sandal]

Someone said you need minimum div lvl 2 for it to work properly

on all characters

[tidal grove]

My div level is not the problem. all 50+

[steady token]

👀 really?

[frigid acorn]

has to real unlock divinity or smth

[viscid sandal]

Can you post your 3d printer screens?

[tidal grove]

hold on

[untold saffron]

do you max shiny snitch?

[steady token]

so doot has no use unless reaching w5?

[sick sentinel]

if ur looking on IE i dont think its updated for companions btw

[steady token]

yes, I maxed shiny snitch

[shrewd nexus]

https://imgur.com/a/ZndAFx8

fuck. this.game

[frigid acorn]

[viscid sandal]

Next roll for sure!

😉

[shrewd nexus]

😦

[tidal grove]

https://imgur.com/a/w1TvpGR there u go

[sick sentinel]

ur at 6x thats what the purple is

it only shows the base number

[tidal grove]

Really? Isnt it the Star?

[sick sentinel]

star is only god for 3x

[frigid acorn]

star was just hrabbit

[viscid sandal]

No no, star is the artifact modifier

[tidal grove]

Ah then I got it wrong. Sorry guys

[viscid sandal]

If you're at 1.0x (i.e. you sampled recently), it will revert to purple. I was going through this yesterday as well haha

[sick sentinel]

this is what they meant by star

[shrewd nexus]

i think the display colour can bug out, which doesnt help

[sick sentinel]

it bugs out cause of something with dk orb pow 10 talent or somethin

[viscid sandal]

Yeah tracking. Gold star = artifact modifier active. Purple = Harriep. Blue = Lab. White = 😦

[shrewd nexus]

also, why your metal 4 times better that your wood, roku? normally wood is easier to push

[sick sentinel]

no gold means you are linked to the harriep god

[frigid acorn]

purple means both

[viscid sandal]

@shrewd nexus he has 597m log?

[sick sentinel]

top is artifact, bottom is dk talent

[tidal grove]

Normally yes, dont know why tho since I sampled both at the same time

[steady token]

no, purple=6x, yellow=3x, blue=2x

[tidal grove]

Have to redo anyway, all my samples are garbo

[steady token]

artifact doesnt change color

[shrewd nexus]

roku dont, your looking at circ

[viscid sandal]

o srry haha

he's a melee mage, so clearly not loved 😉

[shrewd nexus]

at 597m circ can have whatever ratio of wood to metal they want, i aint touching that XD

[tidal grove]

I know, I still have to redo my samples since I print useful stuff with only 3 characters

[viscid sandal]

i feel you. I'm too lazy to fix prints for my last 6 characters lmao

[shrewd nexus]

first 3 bubbles on mage and warrior help sampling if you can get them in atom range

[viscid sandal]

4 of them carry the rest for sure

[steady cloud]

whats the best way to Div, should I go for the 100% chances or try it with 25% chances to unlock first god?

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/fbd61c3a184c69f43040d2878a9796a1.png

100 to go

[sick sentinel]

normally spam left until you get 100

[viscid sandal]

I personally go for the lowest % until the 100% shows up, then save until it's a guaranteed unlock

[sick sentinel]

may get lucky on a low roll too

[sick sentinel]

dang you got me beat

[untold saffron]

loving the red headband on there

[sick sentinel]

XD i havent tried farming the rare drops for them yet, if it was one of those

or was that a scriptus one

yeah rip no relcaim button 😦

[untold saffron]

you can claim the thread i think

and make another

or something

[sick sentinel]

thats for the gloves

[untold saffron]

ah

fuck

[sick sentinel]

it wasa reward sadly

[untold saffron]

you're still swimming in easy slots with all those dungeon weapons

[shrewd nexus]

for the "cape drop" quest on w5 boss, do i have to have it drop on a char with the quest, or can i pass it around? its not consumed right?

[lyric sequoia]

Has to be dropped when you have the quest by the boss

[frigid acorn]

you have to done with that char

[sick sentinel]

hehehe... fuck dungeons

[lyric sequoia]

You don't need the scarf equipped though, can do that after

[sick sentinel]

like ghost drop for key quest w2

[untold saffron]

should I max midas or jawbreaker first

[lyric sequoia]

jawbreaker

[steady token]

midas best

[sick sentinel]

midas is more useful for everyone, but depends what ur tryna focus

[frigid acorn]

why not both when you can do them

[steady token]

i never use jawbreaker

[lyric sequoia]

Sounds like a skill issue

[shrewd nexus]

max the giant prayer first

[sick sentinel]

46B is the sweet spot for bubo dmg to wear both maxed i believe

[lyric sequoia]

Gotta put on the first prayer too

[untold saffron]

oof thats a big ask

[sick sentinel]

heelll naah

[lyric sequoia]

Only 70b ish min damage needed for all 3 maxed

[untold saffron]

maxed midas, had enough left for 40 jawbreaker without losing my green stacl

[steady token]

70b enough to oneshot wurm crystal by cloud?👀

[sick sentinel]

crystal you let aura do its job

[lyric sequoia]

Base socks? Far more than enough

[sick sentinel]

only need gas to one shot reg mobs

[steady token]

i consider one shot crystal as enough though

[lyric sequoia]

Your min damage just needs to be higher than the health of socks with whatever prayers you want equipped. megacrits mean that your farts willl do whatever your sheet damage is

Aura will 1 shot crystals, not a big deal

[shrewd nexus]

if it was an option to permently delete a char but you gain 25% stats on all other chars, how would you use it?

[tawdry steeple]

no

[untold saffron]

noone seems completely expendable

[shrewd nexus]

BM thou

[runic girder]

Big traps

[steady token]

just more hourly click first 3 bubbles, so no

[untold saffron]

i could never minmax this much

[shrewd nexus]

how about, delete 3 char, but you get doot?

[cosmic tendon]

The char or the slot?

[lyric sequoia]

I already ahve 2 doots, no thanks

[shrewd nexus]

both

[untold saffron]

if i were to delete anyone it'd be the second SB

[lyric sequoia]

I'd delete a character so I can remake it and pick up all the slab items I'm missing from early quests tbh

Levelling and booking a character up again isn't hard

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah if slots not gone I’m down

[weary hinge]

does candy affect the shiny progression on the fenceyard?

[cosmic tendon]

New char with account progression is micro dopamine hit heavy

I don’t think omni procs do either tbh

[mild wadi]

Stupid sheepies go away

[haughty cove]

save 1 for me if trading system comes

XD

[mild wadi]

Haha of course

[haughty cove]

ty man

[elder shuttle]

so i managed to fix my kitchen and ill be able to get 10k dangos in time for chip, but it looks more grim for my spices, any suggestions on how to get it up faster? im at 157/1500 right now

[alpine rune]

Imma start Luling up my stamps vials and my cauldrons

[north juniper]

Does this only apply when gathering souls on VMan?

[haughty cove]

nah its work for acc

[north juniper]

Wait so it gathers every units trapping and worship level?

[haughty cove]

yah

i think

[dreamy merlin]

is it worth to use lvl 1 poisonic or lvl 15 boulder

[untold saffron]

boulder probably

[languid vapor]

Do i equally upgrade the gaming upgrades?
(The bit upgrade and the plant cycle speed upgrade)

[modern plaza]

just vman lvls but more critters/souls on everyone

[untold saffron]

I have been

[shrewd nexus]

i unlocked ruby cards from rift, any advice on card farming? is it done activly?

[noble mesa]

Cristal spon chance

[shrewd nexus]

i have the cyrstal cards ruby already, its more the common monster and resource cards

[noble mesa]

U can go for mk and dr

[crystal tulip]

I keep the bit upgrade slightly higher, but it's never more than 50% cost above the speed upgrade.

[shrewd nexus]

does mk affect cards drops?

[noble mesa]

I dont think so

[languid vapor]

Ok thanks

[modern plaza]

oh card chance helps too

[elder shuttle]

if u use a long cooldown skill and then use talent respec, is the cd still there?

[modern plaza]

so based on the benefits of each, i typically upgrade the bits one about 5x beyond the timing one. since the bits one gives roughly 7% and the timing one gives less than 0.5%…

[shrewd nexus]

thats pretty close to what i do. bits one is a power law, so stays relavent a long time

[leaden shuttle]

what is the best class for tier farming on rift?

[shrewd nexus]

ES, possibly DK depending on dmg, should be pretty easy though

[modern plaza]

im at 300b, saving for snail. my bits upgrade it at like 70b but i didn’t want to wait any longer since snail has a ramp up time too. snail gives 2x gains in 3 days and the 7% things takes like 10 to get the 2x. So i figured rush snail now 🙂

[tawny meteor]

!gems

[bold quiver]

why didnt he give me his trophy

[leaden shuttle]

u can get in in some shop

I think the one in the fishing zone

[bold quiver]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh the fishig shop

oh ffs, did this quest again for no reason lol

[noble mesa]

For xp

[frail mauve]

Where and how should i farm obol frag? I need at lot to reroll dr obols. I am at 6.89 dr on my dk

[tawdry steeple]

sand pots

[frail mauve]

Can i ask why they are good for it? Also as which class, and is it active or afk farming?

[bold quiver]

Chizoar runs 1x key

W2 because u can drop silver and gold obols, good for frags
Sandpot or snelbies, flat map DK

[sick sentinel]

and sandpots helps you get glass shards too for the carry cap stamp

sand for refinery/stamp

[frail mauve]

i got around a 100 shards and a few million sand

[sick sentinel]

do it on dk with a crystal setup and high orb

[bold quiver]

u get to an island and steal it

[frail mauve]

Already got all my crystal chance and the chip. level 200 orb too

[sick sentinel]

get it again

[sick sentinel]

keep doin what youre doin then, or like brave said you can spam chiz too

if you have a stockpile of keys

[frail mauve]

Thanks for the tips 🙂

[unreal basin]

Can I kill chaotic kruk with these stats ?

[viral turret]

My characters are all about 350, they’re all in their 90’s for lab and I also just unlocked the last divinity god. Though my damage is only about 100-300m feel like I’m missing some major boosts to my damage. What should I have my characters doing? Also from what I do know I’m missing out big on crystal steak

[leaden shuttle]

as long as u can kill the moles u can kill it

[unreal basin]

Can I kill the moles with these stats ?

[leaden shuttle]

can u do it on normal difficulty?

if so yes because they dont scale

[unreal basin]

Yeah but there's more on chaotic

Yeah they do ?

You sure ?

[leaden shuttle]

I dont think they do

[fathom lagoon]

Finally starting my chow journey w my BB

[unreal basin]

I tried earlier and there was a ton of them

[leaden shuttle]

maybe Im wrong tho

[unreal basin]

🥸

[leaden shuttle]

I just left the game on auto for higher difficulties

[random sky]

Anyone know how digging work's in gaming? How many hours for one dig and what's the max digs you can stack?

[leaden shuttle]

and it worked fine

[unreal basin]

One hour for one dig

[fathom lagoon]

1 dig = 1 hour, 2 digs = 4.5 hours

[cunning vault]

just killed the boss on chaotic on my ES with a 1/5 of your damage

[unreal basin]

And it scaled up

[fathom lagoon]

There’s a chart floating around

[unreal basin]

I'll try then

[random sky]

Where?

[unreal basin]

I CAN'T KILL THE MOLES

[cunning vault]

whaat

[unreal basin]

Beast master is the worst for this boss battle

[cunning vault]

i just auto and my chainbolt just one-shots them

[fathom lagoon]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[leaden shuttle]

how much does a mole heal?

[unreal basin]

Too much

Idk exactly

But I kill one then two of them spawn

Oh bruh

I'm dumb

[leaden shuttle]

can u outdps it ?

[unreal basin]

I forgot to remove the prayer that add hp to monsters...

Probably going to be REALLY easier now

[modern plaza]

classic

[random sky]

Thank you

[fathom lagoon]

Np

[modern plaza]

oof i need to do some tower defense this weekend xD

[fathom lagoon]

Swiggity swooty Doot coming for that booty

[modern plaza]

sheepie better than doot, change my mind

[fathom lagoon]

I’m pretty happy w the game rn, got all 10 of my chars at elites and they’re grinding thru w4, my BB chowing and my main ES grinding away at drops for gear

[fathom lagoon]

Sheepie OP

[modern plaza]

i can get a gaming and a sailing proc from sheepie, doot only gives 1 or the other

[lyric sequoia]

I need to go farm 40 cooking clogs, and I don't know if I have the mental fortitude to do it

[narrow cloak]

you can equip relevant bubbles without sheepie, you can't equip more than one relevant god

[fading dust]

can someone explain to me how the nuggets work?

[fathom lagoon]

They’re just a bit multiplier

[fading dust]

Ya whats the best way to get more

[modern plaza]

i get kpk and mk with sheepie, doot only gives kpk

[fathom lagoon]

Rankings go Doot, Sheepie & Rift slug

[fathom lagoon]

Complete rng, you can upgrade chances by upgrading the shovel tho

[narrow cloak]

you can equip both of them without sheepie, and doot gives 30% afk gains too

[fathom lagoon]

Yea grand scheme if we being serious sheepie not better than doot lol

[modern plaza]

all my characters get big anvil gains and big worship charge. doot mia.

[fathom lagoon]

Sheepie is QoL more than anything, Doot is power creep

But I’m a dooter so all hail

[modern plaza]

level up gift is better than divinity orbs for further progressed accounts

[narrow cloak]

doot gives 3x prints, and lab without being in lab

[lyric sequoia]

One of those pets gets me a red salt rank up in 2-4 days. Can you guess which of the 2 it is?

[fathom lagoon]

6x basically w the lab node

[fathom lagoon]

My ranks have been flying w doot giving my chars omni

[narrow cloak]

again you can have all of those, sheep just removes the need to switch them

[modern plaza]

sheepie makes doot even stronger because of the big P

[modern plaza]

again you can’t have all them proc 100% bc u can’t wear them all at once

[lyric sequoia]

1 of those 2 pets also gives me enough div pearls to get a character up to cooking lvl 50 in 2-3 days. Can you guess which one that is?

[fathom lagoon]

[narrow cloak]

you're not doing what they buff all at once, you can achieve everything sheepie gives without sheepie you just have to micromanage

[lyric sequoia]

1 of those pets also quintupled my daily atom gains without changing any of my samples. Can you guess which one that is?

[modern plaza]

lol 😂 no that’s just wrong

[fathom lagoon]

What’s the answer

[cunning vault]

Slime!

[lyric sequoia]

1 of those pets also gives me at least 100 chests to open per day outside of the regullar 6 hourly chests. Can you guess which that is?

[fading dust]

does cranium cooking cd get lowered by tentacles?

[lyric sequoia]

I'll give you a hint: It probably isn't sheepie doing any of these things

You can have your preference on what pets you like all you want, but you don't see sheepie getting a $500 pity timer

(to get the update on iOS, not to help the players of course)

[quaint grove]

Is there any sort of gmush checklist or thing detailing the best way to do that farm? Or is it just like set a siegebreaker free?

[lyric sequoia]

Not that it matters anyway, just stop being poor and give Lava enough money to have all the pets, then you don't have to have a preference. ezpz

[leaden shuttle]

what is the shiny level threshold?

[sick sentinel]

do you mean on IT?

[leaden shuttle]

yeah

[viral turret]

My characters are all about 350, they’re all in their 90’s for lab and I also just unlocked the last divinity god. Though my damage is only about 100-300m feel like I’m missing some major boosts to my damage. What should I have my characters doing? Also from what I do know I’m missing out big on crystal steak

[sick sentinel]

its the level that is set to remind you to swap shinies

you can change it in the cog setting on dashboard

but shinies i believe dont have a limit, just take a long ass time

[lyric sequoia]

Cooking, alchemy, stamps is the typical answer to that

[leaden shuttle]

whats a realistic level to push them?

[lyric sequoia]

5

[sick sentinel]

im doing all to 5 then goin back through for ones i want

[leaden shuttle]

I see thanks

[lyric sequoia]

1 starsign pet needs to be 6, but otherwise just push all to 5 and then do whatever you want as the level up timers get pretty rough

Personallly I'm also skipping world 6 shiny levelling untill there is actually confirmation that world 6 is coming soon

[leaden shuttle]

I see, I still have pets to unlock normally tho

should I do that before shinies?

[lyric sequoia]

No reason to not do both at the same time

There's plenty of downtime between waiting for a shiny to get to level 5 to spend eggs on unlocks

[quaint grove]

Is there a faster way to get gray spirals? I feel like I've left all my upgrades in the dust because they've been a bit of a trickle for me

[sick sentinel]

spam hatch eggs

das it

[quaint grove]

Lame

[modern plaza]

i have all lol 😂

[lyric sequoia]

I paid for 2 doots, but got slug, ram and sheep for free so who's the real winner here? Definitely not Lava

[modern plaza]

sheepie just hits harder than doot in the long run. i think there should of been more outrage about sheepie bc you have to earn those extra slots. doot was always just 1 god link not like i earned it, it was given. now if lava lets you link to more gods based on certain progressions outside es skill. ok maybe some drama

[unborn siren]

Guys, I found the GOAT.

[kindred dagger]

is this a good cap ?

[modern plaza]

that’s a great deal

[modern plaza]

if u need artifacts still, it’s meh. but you’d want 30%+ on everything for greenbois

[lavish cloak]

Lazy ass speed roll.

[kindred dagger]

its my first greenboi and i still need artifacts 🙂

[frank harbor]

Tips on increasing vman damage? I hear gear is minimal

Hovering in the 3-6m damage range right now, lvl 215

[lavish cloak]

Allstats and base damage.

[frank harbor]

Also, does the maestro right hand/left hand include skills like lab/cooking/sailing?

Basically w4 and w5 skills

[lavish cloak]

Max your combat talents, work on your skills that contribute to damage (lowest skill in w1-w3 is the multiplier usually fishing), and get food %

I killed kattlekruk nightmare with 60b damage. It was a slog to be sure, but proper use of cooldowns and focusing boss only when hampters were well under control was the pattern.

A single heal resets an entire cooldown of screenclear worth of progress

Good luck

[tacit tulip]

guess I need to get yellow bubble 1 into atom range really

to buff the vman damage through atoms

[signal osprey]

Base damage bubbles will do more

[void badge]

For people that have been following my progress so far

[lavish cloak]

I got it to 500 and name i guess that boosts base damage based off of mana does more.

[void badge]

still going

[signal osprey]

Best way to boost damage with atoms is quick slap

[lavish cloak]

Which one is quick slap?

[paper ingot]

@void badgehow long you been at it?

[lyric sequoia]

I mean doot literally invalidates a unique aspect that ES had going for it over other classes

[signal osprey]

The archer base damage bubble that scales with ms

[lavish cloak]

Ah. Movement speed pots will be better than base damage pots with enough levels in that.

[signal osprey]

Yeah it has a slightly different formula than the other two and just simply scales better regardless of class

[void badge]

since 12:40pm (it's 3:30 pm atm)

[void badge]

there

[covert rover]

the new gear is worse than magma for active right

[paper ingot]

oh wow

[signal osprey]

So if you're willing to commit hundreds or even thousands of bubble levels into atom clicking damage then quick slap is the way to go no matter what

[lavish cloak]

Helmet isnt bad, same damage with drop rate. The rest is a downgrade in damage

[covert rover]

ogey ty

[lavish cloak]

Need me 1 tril damage

[tacit tulip]

good time to start I guess!

[lavish cloak]

Do it before no bubble left behind levels your cost reduction bubble >D

[signal osprey]

Yeah I prefer to just print gold and do name I guess so I can atom other stuff but if damage is all you care about then slap your heart out

Just keep in mind the scaling is quadratic so its a little slow at first but it gets better as you level it more

[lyric sequoia]

I'd rather get the twines again than the cooking clogs

[tacit tulip]

get no cookcing clogs in an hour
look away for 10 minutes
Game lagging from inventory of clogs

[lost beacon]

W6 Purple Mush farming

[lyric sequoia]

Gross

[tacit tulip]

just 3 days til it does anything

[signal osprey]

Just get all clogs and twine while candying eclipse skulls 🧠

[pulsar heart]

how do i use this guaranteed rare drop calculator

values r kinda confusing me

[tacit tulip]

difficultly

[signal osprey]

Bold of you to assume he has enough damage to kill NKruk on everyone

[lyric sequoia]

Mans over here like "30b vman damage isn't even lategame bruh, just get more"

[signal osprey]

30b is kinda low by endgame standards but it should be enough to get a kill if you don't mind manually fighting the boss for like 15 minutes

[fading dust]

Just got omniphao, vman, and BB working on W1 chows. Anything major I need to achieve to keep progressing?

[prisma drift]

My poor vman with 2B

[fading dust]

Bro mine has 1 M

[prisma drift]

Ill be stuck on the final task for a while lol

[lyric sequoia]

Is it bad that I'm more against doing dungeons once a week for a few weeks to get my missing opals than getting the rest of the stuff I need to get the missing magma hats and boots I need?

[lyric sequoia]

Don't use vman for DN related things, it gets reset the moment you do a speedrun

[signal osprey]

Twine and clogs can be candied

Dungeons can't

Makes sense to me

[fading dust]

DN?

[lyric sequoia]

Deathnote

[fading dust]

Oh wait so all kills you get on VMAN gets reset??

Ayo wtf hahaha

[tacit tulip]

yeah, to lock the portals it sets DN kills to 0

for vman

[lyric sequoia]

Speedrun portals are regular portals, Lava just resets the kills to 0 so that they all lock

Instead of having a separate count for speedrun portals

Because that'd be too smart

[fading dust]

Seems kinda like spaghetti code

[lyric sequoia]

Welcome to Idlleon

Everything is spaghetti because Lava doesn't actually program

Like, that's not a dig or anything, the game is built in scratch or whatever it is called and is effectively drag and drop components

[fading dust]

True, implementation is likely limited in certain areas. I’m surprised he has not tried employing more help

In which case, he’s also been fairly closed-off to feedback so… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[signal osprey]

People have literally offered to help him with coding for free

Its just a pride issue I guess

[vapid wraith]

Made in Stencyl. It's visual coding, so very little actual code.

[lyric sequoia]

That's the 1

[vapid wraith]

Concurrency/scheduling/teamwork problems when working with a team would probably be more trouble than it's worth for a couple free, work-as-they-like devs.

[lyric sequoia]

Would need to be someone who also works in Stencyl though is the issue

From what I've seen of it you don't just get the ability to open an IDE and start tinkering, you have to continue with the tool that can be pretty much summed up as pseudocode

[acoustic marten]

all my guys and gals are trapped on an altar 😭
my heart screams just release em and go fight but its so unreasonable i just cant 😄

[fallow pawn]

60b+ dmg should be enough with vman to kill nkruk right?

[lyric sequoia]

Half of that is enough

[fallow pawn]

sounds good, than tonight is the night, nkruk will suffer a minimum of 10 times

[hushed forum]

is there a certain strat to not get overun by moles? his aoe is kinda shitty

[fallow pawn]

probably just fast attack speed, ill use fastest weapon with basic attack speed chip from lab etc

[north juniper]

Is bubo just considered a better money maker because of the rate he kills? My DK seems to be a fairly good money maker

Unless there's some innate money multiplier I'm missing

[hushed forum]

bubo is moneyking afaik for that reason

[fallow pawn]

crystal kill rate is the highest on bubo, thus he has the biggest money making

[north juniper]

That's assuming the bubo can kill crystals faster than the DK?

I'd think with a decent orb a DK would shine right

[fallow pawn]

best is also worms, bubo works better there

[hushed forum]

my bubo kills way faster then my dk ever could

not even close

[robust pendant]

With vman just wait till the last second before the moles reach kruk to use the aoe skill. And try to time it to just as the skill comes off CD. Then you have a window to whack the boss a bit before you need to clear moles. Rinse and repeat

[hushed forum]

his respawn skill is just to slow

[fallow pawn]

thats also a problem, it respawns only if everything is dead with a slight delay

bubo spawns constantly, maybe you have the wrong ability setup?

[lyric sequoia]

No, because Bubo gets far far higher raw kills per hour than DK or ES

Thus far more crystal spawn chances

[fading dust]

What rift level should I be aiming for if I am midgame ~ lvl 200 char

[heady scaffold]

50

[north juniper]

I'm doing aura/raise dead/flatulent/ CC on the attack bar

On OJs

[signal osprey]

Bubo is better but DK still gets really good money for sure

[north juniper]

Yeah my DK can hit 1000m on crits consistently so he one shots the W5 crystals on the citringes. But my Bubo hits 250M all around so it takes a bit longer.

[glossy rain]

Im waiting with bubo till i can do the aura farm thingy tho

Was it skill level 240?

[sick sentinel]

tent eye 200

[glossy rain]

Still a long way to go

The aura size was the thing tho

[mild wadi]

How much dmg on ES before it can take out nkruk

[wind umbra]

pretty sure that u can do it at any damage as long as u can one shot the moles

[mild wadi]

OK I'm at 17b dmg will give it a go

[wind umbra]

just leave on auto

all ur skills should stop boss from healing

just depends on how fast it goes

[tacit tulip]

yeah it won't be fast but you won't fail

anyone know how far you yolo snail before encouragement?

As I'll eventually be doing that

[void badge]

after 3h45 mins

[red slate]

If I reroll this obol can I get more drop rate and more weapon power?

[sick sentinel]

10-12 from what i've seen

i reset at 12 last time

[versed sapphire]

i got to w5 approximately 3 seconds ago what do i do first

[sick sentinel]

check out the first pin in this channel

in depth write up on new w5

do the npc's questline for starters tho

[fading dust]

Divinity prison

[versed sapphire]

how long does it take to get arctis

[dreamy merlin]

A few days prob

[prisma drift]

Isn’t Arctis the first

[fading dust]

I got pretty lucky so a few days

[dreamy merlin]

Snake is first

[fading dust]

I would sample first since everyone is on snake

[prisma drift]

Ah I have terrible memory of gods

[dreamy merlin]

Hoggi you never answered me,how are you not melting in w5

[prisma drift]

I did actually

[fading dust]

Doot enjoyer!!

[prisma drift]

I’ll answer again, because I’m so cool

[dreamy merlin]

Why you have a flame role then?

[prisma drift]

Ill be happier in w6 though

Because discord had 99 boosters

And I didn’t like that number

[versed sapphire]

ok i have everyone on divinity but how do i get the next gods?

do i press the one for 25

[prisma drift]

Common Strat is to go with low% till 100% shows up

Then save for the 100% guarantee

[versed sapphire]

can u use candies on divinity

[prisma drift]

No candy in w5 at all

[versed sapphire]

ah ok

[lyric sequoia]

You could have taken 10 minutes to look around world 5 and figure it out yourself rather than rush killing troll and instantly asking for help ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dreamy merlin]

I got 3/4 of my gods with 50/50

[prisma drift]

I got 8/9 of my gods with 10% or lower lol

I never see a 100% pop up

[worthy helm]

Does mantra give xp to characters not on divinity?

[tacit tulip]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[tacit tulip]

So yes, if you had one character on mantra and the rest doing anything else, it would share its mantra exp with them

[worthy helm]

Alr

[noble sable]

[placid mural]

Shat determines your cog rolls? Is it totally random from the outset? Or are there any factors that influence the possible numbers to roll?

What*

[sick sentinel]

your highest char construction lvl determines your cog stat range

directional cogs max bonus they can give is 65% tho

[worthy helm]

Cogs that boost nearby stuff have a set range for each rarity while cogs that have flat values and exp% themselves depend on your cons lv

[sly plank]

I’m thinking of pushing my class levels on all my characters now, but aside from my main active character the rest are still using amarok. how much gear investment should I bother giving them? dementia with glacial weapons? should I use w4 or w5 stones?

[tacit tulip]

Might as well use w5 stones, they're plentiful if you buy them every day

[sick sentinel]

your chars should have the highest gear you can make on em

[tacit tulip]

Most of your power comes from account wide bonuses, eventually you'll want troll+ on everyone. If it's trivial to make dementia or similar, go for it and work on troll once the black salt pours in

[vocal warren]

Should I level all towers, even the ones I don't use or are other buildings more important?

[tacit tulip]

there's benefits to levelling the towers you don't need but that's more important once you have atoms (And a later rift bonus)

until you have those requirements you're better off levelling useful things

[fading dust]

Are chips or limited dice obols a better gem shop purchase

[sick sentinel]

neither

[vocal warren]

Only around 70k atoms per day, rift finished as far as bonuses go

[tacit tulip]

Then yeah, level everything. Atom bonus for tower damage based on level over 50, rift bonuses for total buildings levelled up

[fading dust]

Got 1000 gems from gem envelope, looking for good use of em. Already got lots of the gem shop stuffs

[modern plaza]

that’s nice atom production

[tacit tulip]

the bonuses aren't trivial

[sick sentinel]

did you get the fomo shop stuff?

the chains or the pirate hat

[fading dust]

Ya the mob chains and hat

[sick sentinel]

do you have all the lab jewels

[fading dust]

No 😦 which of the jewels is best

[signal osprey]

All of them

[sick sentinel]

jewels way better than chips gamba

[signal osprey]

Completing your lab jewels is one of the biggest milestones you can do early on. It sucks buying them but you really don't have a choice

[fading dust]

We need option to buy a chip multiple times in a rotation. Kinda ridiculous having to wait months for even one chip

[tawny flicker]

Hey is there an account somewhere to look at with someone that has like 500B+ damage so I can have a reference of what to work towards???

[sick sentinel]

it is what it is, likely isnt ever changing

[signal osprey]

Jewel rotation is even worse

[fading dust]

Oh really? Lava really wants to squeeze us huh

[signal osprey]

Some of them aren't even in the sheet currently and it looks forward a full year

[tacit tulip]

I can reach about 500B on my ES if you want my IE

[signal osprey]

Buying jewels is simply mandatory

At least they aren't rng like chips though so its not as painful

[fading dust]

Ngl kinda just as bad as doot for f2p

[tacit tulip]

https://sakorii.idleonefficiency.com/

[tawny flicker]

Hey thanks I'll look at it to see what I'm missing 😄

[signal osprey]

I got my jewels as f2p. Theres no repeats and its all blue gems

[tacit tulip]

Keep in mind I'm lazy and there WILL be things you have I don't 😄

[signal osprey]

The jewel rotation is bad but getting them from the shop is reasonable

Chips are bad in both rotation and the shop

[sick sentinel]

boss/event gems can fuel jewel stuff pretty well

[heavy patrol]

is kattlecruk armor even worth getting?

[fading dust]

Ah gotcha, so you're basically forced to farm premium currency

[signal osprey]

Thats most of the game though

[sick sentinel]

side grade. helm/boots good for dr stuff, chest/legs for afk fighters

[signal osprey]

Theres a lot of borderline mandatory gem shop upgrades

[sick sentinel]

sampling magma is better, bubo likes magma for money

[signal osprey]

Like imagine not having the second 3d printer slot

[zealous helm]

The last quest on tired mole requires you to get the cape drop on each individual char?

[heavy patrol]

Does base damage really do much in later game? Like +300 or +500

[zealous helm]

It's an incrimental game, it's not a lot, but it all adds up

[daring rapids]

need help and w4 chat is useless, how do I get past 125? Game freezes and crashes here everytime

[lost beacon]

Try on a low population server/world

[lost beacon]

and unclick high performance

[daring rapids]

sucks ive crash at or past 125 like 5 times now and it never gives me credit lol

high performance reduces lag by hiding numbers?

[sick sentinel]

back in the day we would take all pets out of the fenceyard and stop all tables from cooking food

[dreamy merlin]

How is high performance bad?

[signal osprey]

Its not

No idea what hes talking about

[daring rapids]

yeah that one doesnt make sense lol, it reduces lag by hiding on screen numbers lol

[dreamy merlin]

Ok good i was confused for a sec

[signal osprey]

But if high performance isnt enough then unfortunately the answer is to do it on a better pc

[daring rapids]

i9 13900k, and a 4070 ti

not getting much better

[zealous helm]

should have had a 4090

sorry bud

[daring rapids]

had one, it runs to hot

[lost beacon]

You could get stronger pets so the enemies die before the lag builds up

[daring rapids]

they are all near my peak with 15k+ and my very best atm being a 19k

[zealous helm]

That's really low

[signal osprey]

Try it without whale on auto

If hes the only pet you do manually you can just hold the key down and it will keep using the ability

Then you can stop at like 1k stacks or something

[atomic nymph]

Ive seen ppl get afk gain rates over 300% and im here struggling to get to 130%, Is there a chart of afk gain rate?

[daring rapids]

I wanna say its these damn boomerangs lol

lol 2nd I tried manual I lost 3 pets

[frosty silo]

any tips how to kill kattlekrut on nightmare with a viodwalker. killed on all chars except my void. he got so low dmg and cant kill the moles cus he has like 0 spells??

[zealous helm]

what's your dam?

I did it with like 50 bil

but it took a bit

[languid vapor]

WHY DOES MY DAMAGE KEEP GOING DOWN?

I had 94 million damage, i got an alchemy damage upgrade and then i had 93 million damage. Then i just got the frog follower that gives 10% increase damage, and now i have 86 million damage.

I feel that damage upgrades are reversed :/

[frosty silo]

7400 mil.

[zealous helm]

you can do it, but it'll take forever

you have to time killing the moles with your huge AOE voidwalker ability

[rare grove]

is it squire maybe? or DS

[zealous helm]

and stagger the coin and whip on mole

auto only boss

[languid vapor]

Es

[weary hinge]

i cant even start the 10th task because i dont have troll sets on everybody. most of them only have lustre

[frosty silo]

ok l will keep on trying thx for tips

[bronze nova]

What are Rare treasures chances based on in Sailing? I can't seem to get Beachy Coasts(2nd island) rare treasure version even though I have gotten it on all my other discovered islands on multiple occasions.

[zealous niche]

5% always

[placid mural]

You could try making your game window smaller? I did that out of curiosity when I did my 200 wave run and it seemed to run faster the smaller I made the window, it's possible it was just in my head lol

[sharp vine]

130mil DN kills, finally got vman gloves

[fading dust]

It worth trying to active cranium cooking at soda cans overnight with bubo? Feels like the CD on cranium cooking is so high

[sharp vine]

Depends on how often you refresh it. With a high bubble level in alch and 200 tenteyecle, later in the game you reset it like every 30 minutes easily

[fading dust]

Whoa what bubble level?

[fading dust]

My tenteuecle is 150 atm, need more book levels

[daring rapids]

@placid mural thanks ill try that next attempt

[fading dust]

I shall focus that bubble then

[lost turtle]

I feel you on the book lvls

My max is 145 atm 😦

[crude zephyr]

probably more important to you working towards unlocking lv200+ tenteyecle

[sharp vine]

The "% Lower Cooldown" refers to being able to cast it that % more frequently, fyi. So at 100%, what it really means is the CD has been cut in half so you cast it twice as often, or 100% more often.

[fading dust]

Oh gotcha, im currently trying to get all sources of max book levels atm

[sharp vine]

Yeah have fun spending weeks getting Ancient Fury relic

[untold saffron]

ancient

[lost turtle]

Im still trying to unlock the island for fury relic lol

[fading dust]

That sounds fun 🥲

Wait ancient fury relic is like a majority of the bonus to maximum levels from the library 💀

No easy way out huh

[signal osprey]

Just wait faster

[rigid cloak]

ancient fury

took so long

[stiff prairie]

Im 9 levels away from lvl 200 tentacle, with 8 of that being available through salt lick and just getting max sized book.
rift slug, ES and symbol p was a big help

Once i spam books to get the achievement, ill be good im already on 3-4 craniums a day when i leave the account active, you will be suprised how much tentacle does even pre lvl 200

[opaque sun]

new people complain “but my bubo doesn’t have 200 tent to do cc”, but we’ve all been doing cc fine at max level 160 era

[undone pollen]

can i get more exp from gaming if i put my dk there? like bb on cooking

[elder shuttle]

saw a cog optimizer here yesterday, anyone know if theres something similar for lab mainframe positioning?

[dapper prism]

No because there's only really one way to setup the lab for having everything (except 2 jewels) with 6 chars

Which is in the w4 pins

[elder shuttle]

u know at what lvl that is possible?

the pixel range

• i have 10 chars for lab

[frosty silo]

what is best char to get syggma recipe? does droprate count or is it pure kills?

[opaque sun]

ES best for recipe and dr counts for it

its dr * base kills

[frosty silo]

ok will try to farm with my es then thx

[dapper prism]

but way better with es wormhole stack kills

[opaque sun]

wormhole stack is effectively part of the “dr” formula

[vapid wraith]

What is this game, how did I get two ancient before getting the normal relic

[placid mural]

Rng

[opaque sun]

some people got the eldritch before finding the normal one on the same island

[languid vapor]

Its not as rare as eldrich i dont think but i got ancient on the same artifact twice before getting the one i wanted 💀

[dapper prism]

I've gotten eldritch while the other was still base 👀

[opaque sun]

yeah rarely you can get normal and ancient in one setting in succession

[rustic cipher]

Should I use magma helm for bubo

[dapper prism]

Everyone should use chiz / Magma (until you get divine stuff which makes stuff more situational)

[rustic cipher]

Alr thanks

Imma get all the recipes for magma soon

Only got chestplate rn

[dapper prism]

Most of them should be pretty easy to get except knuckles

By simply pushing through the zones with a few characters

[rustic cipher]

Yea I've got all weapons aside from knuckles

Just need the rest of the armor and the knuckles and I'm set

[dapper prism]

No need for knuckles for a while imo, as that rate is so low/bad and u may not really need the weapon right away anyways

Like, don't overfarm it early on at least

[rustic cipher]

Yea, I'm still using lustre gloves on vman

So no point grining magma gloves yet

[dapper prism]

Not imo. Since those other recipes are like a 1/1m to 1/5m. and most portals require more kills than that. Plus your DR etc. by just pushing through the zones with alts you'll get those recipes easily.
Knuckles however is a 1/50m so a lot more annoying

Also costs a ton of hampters to even craft which have a better use early on

[rustic cipher]

Good point, I could just put some random character to grind for them

[dapper prism]

Only 2 options. Active ES due to the high af DR for when you even need knuckles. Or AFK BB for superchow kills

[rustic cipher]

Active is gonna suck without autoloot so prob gonna go with BB

[dapper prism]

Or just filter it's main drop

[noble hound]

Those damn knuckles. Ive got like 700m kills and still no drop while active on my es

[dapper prism]

Yeh but that 700m is not with base kills

[vagrant mountain]

where can I find chance for an artifact?

[dapper prism]

when u get the chest

[vagrant mountain]

im trying to decide if its worth it to send all my ships to island 8 for book level artifact

and spam candies

[fervent flame]

do it

[vagrant mountain]

by spam candies i mean, i have 5

dunno if its worth it if i dont hit

[tranquil surge]

wtf

premifying hat removes the misc!?!?!

i just fucked up

[dreamy merlin]

What are candy's gonna do?

[vagrant mountain]

the sailing candies

[tranquil surge]

im so sad

that was my idle skilling hat 😦

[dreamy merlin]

Bottles winds?

[vagrant mountain]

yea

[vagrant mountain]

dang, at least it is not BIS

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/glckSNz.png

Bottled winds?

[vagrant mountain]

yea i

[tranquil surge]

tru but none the less i used that all the time haha

im still earlygame

[vagrant mountain]

where did you get 140, i only have 5 XD

[pulsar cliff]

MY CONDOLENCES.

[dapper prism]

do every quest in w5 with all alts

[vagrant mountain]

ahh

odds I can hit fury relic in like 20 chests?

pretty much base arti find chance

[dapper prism]

Its more like 0.01 or 0.02 although base may be a bit higher i guess?

[vagrant mountain]

something like that

[dapper prism]

Quantity over quality

[vagrant mountain]

true

[dapper prism]

Remove SB talent, get a lot of chests, equip sail bubble, gold hampters etc etc

[vagrant mountain]

still need to unlock sail bubble xd

ive been active on my bubo but only 192 tentacleye

perfect book gets me to 197 but ima wait til i get fury relic

[dapper prism]

what about tab 4 talent 15?

[vagrant mountain]

my max is 155, i have it 140

only way to get last few levels is divinity / ES family bonus

but its like 20 div levels or like 120 ES levels

[dapper prism]

or 1 easy fury :d

[vagrant mountain]

yeah

can only farm it with 2 ships reasonably and they are still 4 and 6 hours

need lava to release more gem packs cuz i cant bring myself to buy the base $20 pack 😆

[pallid quail]

Does anyone happen to know the speed required to hit the last island in sailing in 2 hours?

[opaque sun]

1/2 of distance

So basically 50m

[pallid quail]

Haha thats gonna take a while, thanks!

[bold quiver]

we did it - 400

[oak tartan]

what is the most valued of "skull" item from Killroy?

[bold quiver]

no better value than what u need the most when u click on him

[oak tartan]

dungeon dice? pet eggs?

don't particularly need anything haha

[runic girder]

Aracade balls are fun

[pulsar cliff]

I usually grab books since I always seem to need another skill to book out.

[sacred monolith]

I just dropped a bunch of skulls into refinery cycles

[oak tartan]

Maybe I should just grab the dice then. Need more rings

[pulsar cliff]

If you're far along I usually don't recommend just based on how fast the cycles get going now. But YMMV.

[astral vapor]

*_*

[versed sapphire]

what makes the bear god so good?

[opaque sun]

since people can do other stuff than being in lab

[oak tartan]

allows your characters to "be" in the lab even when they are not

[versed sapphire]

oh ok but they dont get lab xp right?

[oak tartan]

yes, but they get the bonus

[versed sapphire]

damn ok

[opaque sun]

You still will need to level lab a bit