lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[opaque sun]

Basically its a efficiency boost that works for characters that are weak in that skill

[finite charm]

After you have 7 evolutions for gaming, that's a total of 48/72 yeah? Or 56? I have 6 evolutions but can't get past the 5th one, (So 5 for each plant)

[opaque sun]

Evo 5+ are like futher 1/200 or something each tier so its really rare

[finite charm]

damn i've had 2 sitting for hundreds of hours (Fertilizers) waiting for them to go up. lol

how many do you have total?

could you screenshot your log book? Want to see what they look like

[opaque sun]

I dont has discord on my gaming pc, so cant post screen shot but im at 47/72

[finite charm]

damn I do not like how rare they are

[lavish quiver]

thats up to rank 5

[opaque sun]

Dont bother aiming for log book multiplier, the bits wasted in hopes to get log book isnt worth it

[lavish quiver]

Yea i dont anymore

[finite charm]

Yeah ok i wont i'll take the last 2

and thank you

OHHH you have chemical i forgot about that i dont have chemical, tried hundreds of times still not lucky enough forgot about that

[lavish quiver]

I just got the snail which is skyrocketing the multi

[opaque sun]

With the opportunity loss of bits that could have been harvested, you could have upgraded stuff way more than what the log book offers, and you still have a chance to get 5+ evo naturally anyway

[tranquil surge]

can someone come snake jar w6 pizza

and say hi

will luv u longtiem

[opaque sun]

I got all 5 evo and two of evo 6 just by doing notmal harvests

[raven fog]

Does miltikill effect money?

[finite charm]

yeah i got the 40 with normal harvests, was just trying to push it a little

[opaque sun]

No

multikill only increases the base mob material drop

[raven fog]

So i use dr prayer on my bubbo for money and xp roght

[finite charm]

trying to get to 5Q (green) for the next superbit currently

[raven fog]

Ok

[opaque sun]

Increased kill from kill per kill type of kills doesnt increase anything including mob materials

[lavish quiver]

Same

[finite charm]

Just got like 20 fertilizers from turning some quests in so spamming that lol

[opaque sun]

And jawbreaker

Dr doesnt do anything for exp btw

[lavish quiver]

Yea i just hit div 80 on a lot of char and i am getting those free ones

[raven fog]

Jaw breaker they will get tanky

I cant one shot them

[finite charm]

Im working on that right now, took 3 days in div for 9 of them to go from 1 to 50+ lol put off divinity, like an idiot till after i pretty much got W5 100%

[tranquil surge]

anyone 💔

[finite charm]

i just got chemical holy shit

[lavish quiver]

Nice

[opaque sun]

If its a choice between midas and jawbreaker, jawbreaker adds more money than midas usually

Ideally you want to use both midas and jawbreaker if damage allows of course

[finite charm]

so for chemical, best to use before or after sprinkle? Thinking after since it will EVO the new gens and add to the conch

[opaque sun]

after using sprinker and using bog log

[raven fog]

Idk gmush kills make everything looks small for money

[finite charm]

sweet thanks

[raven fog]

How is the math for it

[opaque sun]

Separate multiplier

1.5x of 1000000000x is a big increase boost

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[oak hemlock]

@opaque sun dude, with the new boss set, the damage sags a lot without +% all stats?

[sweet mountain]

For the Vman speed run, is there a map order that's optimal? I usually go in order (skipping the tree levels in W1) until potatoes, then I alternate between a W2 map and W3 map, since the latter ones require less kills sometimes and it's faster. Don't know if it's the best strat possible though.

[opaque sun]

Magma is better for pure power (damage), divine is a sidegrade of magma that trades off pure power for a specific utility

dont go mindlessly making everything to divine

[reef bough]

How to unlock other crate in post office?

[opaque sun]

Do more orders

[reef bough]

How many?

[opaque sun]

And do sailing to get artifacts to unlock specific boxes

[reef bough]

I alr do 400 i guess

[red scarab]

Pet arena?

[lavish quiver]

Arent there some in pet arena as well

[opaque sun]

And arena too yes

[reef bough]

Yea i alr get 1 from arena but it doesnt sow up

[opaque sun]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Post_Office

[lavish quiver]

Have you tested this? I thought the same would happen so i had both the magma set and bone set with same stones and it went up a good amount still

[opaque sun]

You probably need to do more orders to see tab 2 of the po box

Arena and sailing boxes appear in tab 2

[opaque sun]

Unless you are very weak with your stats, magma offers more damage and stats yes

[lavish quiver]

Im only around 12k wisdom on es so that could be it

[opaque sun]

If divine gives you better damage and stats, it means your overall stats are too weak for % buff to work on

[finite charm]

damn chemicals are so rare wtf

[lavish quiver]

sometimes, sometimes they never stop and your in a endless loop clicking

[finite charm]

im ok with the endless loop

gives me a chance at a 30,000+ gold nugget

[lavish quiver]

im only at 17k

[lavish quiver]

I was wrong the chest i tested didnt have stones on it, magma will do more like you said

So whats really the purpose of this armor then?

[cobalt nimbus]

How does lava skull works in rift?

[strange mauve]

is there a trick for completing the wurm wumbo achievement?

for the other must have stack of cheevs i could actually see how much i had

[opaque sun]

As i mentiond, its the utility of the misc

Like head and boots are way better for active farming with the drop rate as you farm on stuff where damage is taken care of

And body and pants are way better than magma for afk farming as respawn is effectively fight afk gain

damage is like a mid-tier priority stat in this game, and its worth to trade damage for higher priority stats such as drop rate and fight afk gain (respawn) where such stat applies

[lavish quiver]

I agree, there are so many other sources of damage anyways. So if you are already well above where you need to be wearing the divine wouldnt be bad cause you dont take that big of a hit really

[opaque sun]

magma still has uses such as for mining/chopping sampling gear as efficiency from stat% tends to do more than say viking helm and mining pants

[reef bough]

How to get green bits in gaming?

[simple vapor]

Which obols are good

[lavish quiver]

True, ill try to remember that but probably wont knowing me

[strange mauve]

keep playing

[strange mauve]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

obol tab

[opaque sun]

Green bits are just lava ways of denoting next digits of white bits

[reef bough]

So after 999T i will get green bits

[strange mauve]

qqqQ

999Q

[reef bough]

Oh

[opaque sun]

1000Q of green bits become red bits, and so on

[strange mauve]

^

[agile pagoda]

Is there a reason to put a chest rarity limitation in the sailing thingy?

[magic oyster]

What is the max for golden nugget?

[finite charm]

ok i see now im still ckicling lol

[bright current]

whatever you want it to be

[vestal yew]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[eternal dove]

Does anyone know how much moles heal at nightmare kattle

[opaque sun]

around 5% ish

[eternal dove]

sigh why does bb have to suck at nm kattle

[bright current]

because lava only likes wizards

[eternal dove]

Pretty sure most of my other characters could probably handle it even if it takes time. With vman being a maybe? But God 2 bbs for last task is gonna suckkkk

[opaque sun]

Its better than vman, but yeah he is more on the vman side than rest of the family

Imagine being compared to vman with firepower

[eternal dove]

Can't keep up with 64b damage on bb

Like if bb aoes had just a bitttt more range on like whirl or bear claw it might would be alright

[tranquil surge]

what character did u do chiozar 7 achievement?

[coarse quartz]

im struggling keeping up with the mobs for nightmare kruk on my beginner should i just be using a spear?

[tranquil surge]

the take no damage one

[eternal dove]

Well what's your damage like? It's been so long since I done that task

[tranquil surge]

im at 5m

so i can 4 shot it

but every time i got hit by the damn head magic lolol

i sat in the corner on bm and tried the arrow technique

and when it came to dodging them still copped it

[dreamy merlin]

There is absolutely no reason to use a spear,why would you?

[tranquil surge]

ran out of keys too 🥲

[coarse quartz]

feels like 99% of the time im just hitting mobs wouldnt killing mobs quicker increase kill time?

[eternal dove]

I most likely did on a melee user. Maybe bb. Bc I could hit multiple legs

[coarse quartz]

im only at like 1000m-2800m range on void walker

[tranquil surge]

okay will try that next time

[dreamy merlin]

But how would spear help?lave made it so aoe only works on warrior I think

[coarse quartz]

oh realy? havent used spear in forever

ahh yea nvm

lol

[eternal dove]

I think beginner gloves speed would out perform the spear anyway

[coarse quartz]

well time to go back to non stop clicking 😛 thought i had a good plan

[eternal dove]

I've been sitting here trying to do nm kat on bb on mobile and I'm in misery

[coarse quartz]

i just finsihed bb i hated it so much

[eternal dove]

The aoe just isn't enough and combustion cool down is just too long for it

[eternal dove]

So what was your strategy for bb

[tranquil surge]

this is gona maybe sound like a dumb question

but when tryna unlock new pets in breeding

you want all the pets in fenceyard the same kind of pet your tryna unlock?

or just the highest level heart regardless

[next field]

yeah put the heart ones into the yard

[eternal dove]

You wanna put the ones that are pink in there. Works somewhat similarly to sigils as in just have them in there and it takes time to level up

[tranquil surge]

i havent got shinys yet

i get that but like for instance

i have a higher level pig mob with 1380

but im tryna unlock the plank

so do i put a plank with 1193 level heart

or a pig with 1380 level heart

[eternal dove]

Wait your trying to unlock plank but you have a plank?

[tranquil surge]

oh sorry

the next mob past that

[lusty wedge]

If you are trying to unlock plank, how do you have a plank for breedability hearts?

[eternal dove]

So put the plank in

[tranquil surge]

not the pig

so i want a fullscreen of planks

[eternal dove]

Yeah that would level up plank breedability faster for better unlock chance at next.

[tranquil surge]

and ignore the heart level

as it only levels up that mob it represents

[eternal dove]

Yeah the number is irrelevant afaik

[tranquil surge]

ok

[opaque sun]

Breedability helps to unlock the next pet, not the pet himself as that will be impossible

[tranquil surge]

i just assumed that higher number go brrr

clearly not

probably wasted a lot of time with having a massive mixture rather than all the best unlocked tier

[eternal dove]

With breedability pets number is useless and would only serve as hp in combat really which you'd never really use in combat

[opaque sun]

Pet power on pink pet does nothing except for BM’s wp talent

[tranquil surge]

i see

[opaque sun]

i do place a pink pet that stole a high pet power roll in top left for BM’s wp

[tranquil surge]

so highest number in top left for bm

the irony its a plank

[eternal dove]

What you could do is split your breeding pen with pinks of all your latest pets of all worlds so they'd all slowly level for when you decide to go for others.

[opaque sun]

not like its crucial, but to compensate for the “aaagh! Not you!” Moments

[tranquil surge]

well the good news is

well its kinda bad news actually

im hardstuck with w1 and w2

planks and coconuts

[eternal dove]

Well id throw a couple pink coconuts in. Just replace with latest of a world once you get next pet.

[tranquil surge]

w3 and 4 eggs a fair while outa reach haha

ok will do

[jovial geyser]

W5boss with Vman is quite hard

[tranquil surge]

whats that pet thats the very end of w2 breeding?

is that actually a mob in game?

cresent spud

ahh dungeon monster i see

[eternal dove]

Anybody know what damage for bb id need to have to kinda brute force with time?

[eternal dove]

Also what could the neyeptune be referring to bc I know that one is zowed

[opaque sun]

I think the 999 was chiz spike balls which is set to 999 no matter what

[eternal dove]

Ahh

Well I swapped equip and other stuff around so now my bb has 124b damage. Any chance that's enough to brute force it?

[opaque sun]

dr def brown poops and acorn td solo acon can be done with candy

Not sure what you mean by brute force

[raven fog]

Is mob respawn better than dr?

[eternal dove]

I'm talking bout nm kat on bb

[opaque sun]

Mob respawn is effectively fight afk gain

And more afk gain also means more drops so for afk, its better than dr

[raven fog]

But what si the different

[opaque sun]

For active, respawn doesnt do much so dr better

[lyric sequoia]

All characters have enough aoe that damage for nightmare kattle isn't that big an issue, except for vman

[raven fog]

I feel like it’s better than afk gain cause u get mpre kills and the kills count for every drop

[raven fog]

So is the keychains worth it

[eternal dove]

I feel like bbs aoes except combust just barely dont have enough range

[opaque sun]

Key chain is good as 20% respawn is effectively like 18% fight afk gain, and highest afk keychain is 12% atm

[lyric sequoia]

The double blood slice skill aoe is larger than kattle, you just have to play it risky if you don't want to move around

Otherwise moving around isn't a big deal, you'll need to get used to that micromanagement if you want to do it on vman without waiting for like 100b+ damage on him

[opaque sun]

Afk gain directly multiplies base kills (drop rolls) so in that sense its the similar, just on a different multiplier

If you have a choice to get +299% afk gain and +1% respawn, its usually better to get +150% afk gain and +150% respawn as they are a multiplication of each other

[lyric sequoia]

At a certain point more respawn is much more effective than stacking more afk gains, relatively speaking in theory

[opaque sun]

In the world where you have like 2000% afk gain, adding 1% respawn will be big in relative (assuming sources of respawn hasnt changed much at the time)

Its all about getting the rough picture of the multiplication

[lyric sequoia]

Chemical plant and eldritch fury are the bane of my existence at this point...

[opaque sun]

Dr is good, but issue is we got way more sources of dr than respawn and afk gain (15x dr means 1400% gain in a way)

[lyric sequoia]

...Today is not going to be a lucky day, I can feel it

[raven fog]

Yah and mob respawn is harder to get than afk so makes them even better

[jovial geyser]

Any help on how to do NKrut with Vmen?

[opaque sun]

get around 200b damage for a easy fight, near 50b damage for a even matched fight that needs some work

Anything below 10b is asking for a 30min to hours fight

[cyan shuttle]

ready to see how i don't get any higher wave?

[opaque sun]

One of the few people who actually cares of the atom’s tower max level

[prisma drift]

Hey end gamers if I wanna candy skilling cards what should my cards look like?

Card DR and speed?

Or pure DR

[opaque sun]

Card dr on one set, dr on another

[modest warren]

what should i upgrade with my atoms

[opaque sun]

If candy you can snapshot card drop rate

[prisma drift]

Oh yeah I forgot card DR is snapshotable

So run DR for skilling cards too

Got it

[opaque sun]

And speed cards are passive now

[prisma drift]

Oh yeah

[opaque sun]

Enter zone with cdr card set, then full dr and candy

[prisma drift]

Got it thank you

I’ll go use a couple weeks in candy

Try to get easy rss 4 star at least

[jovial geyser]

This is definitely small

Barely reaches 20b

[gentle furnace]

i did it with 39b max dmg too

30 mins

[jovial geyser]

Maybe with full armor of the boss I should be able to do it

[modest warren]

magma does more damage

[opaque sun]

people need to realize divine armor is a side grade with less damage but for utility

[modest warren]

its not a sidegrade if i never had magma armor and skip straight to devine

[stiff prairie]

Its not sidegrade if u havent gotten void yet

[tranquil surge]

are zen cogs still not worth buying?

or have they been fixed

[opaque sun]

Its good, but if its worth the price is still debatable

[gentle furnace]

first 4 is good if you dont have much gems to spend

[modest warren]

isnt it still like 1200 gems or something insane for 4

[gentle furnace]

2500~ for first 4, 5000~ for last 4

[modest warren]

bruh

[opaque sun]

“worth” is hard to say but its better now

[modest warren]

what if im so unlucky i have only gotten 1 direction xp cog in the past month

[opaque sun]

Like with the same gems you can buy lot of jewels which is more imapactful

[modest warren]

i have all jewels

[opaque sun]

So the “worth” depends on that person’s other gem purchases is what i mean

[modest warren]

yeah ik

i dont even know what id spend gems on anymore other than the zen cogs at this point

i think i have everything

[opaque sun]

Cogs are definitely still not one of the first things to buy

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/blz3qGj.png
Will today be the doot day ?

[opaque sun]

But later on first 4 cogs can be okay to get 1 exodia set

[modest warren]

im thinking of buying some stuff from the limited gem shop but idkk if i should

[opaque sun]

Buying 8th is for if you have gems for buying green gem pack and it came with blue gems you didnt ask for

[proven roost]

whats better for kills on portals, active or afk DK

[proven roost]

nope

[viral snow]

active

[tranquil surge]

huge considering im anvil locked tho

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/PEm6fK0.png
youre right

[tranquil surge]

just boosted up to double my build rate from the four purchases

10k to 20k

[proven roost]

id love sheepie

id trade a crystal boi for it, but cant trade

good design lava

[tranquil surge]

need to get the blue souls for IV anvil tab

[viral snow]

would also trade my sheepie

[tranquil surge]

💔 feelsbad

[frigid acorn]

is it worth to atom cc bubble to 1k levels ? cant really touch that damn resample due to 31 days of gold relic

[proven roost]

i thihnk past like 300 its just too diminishing

[warm beacon]

Man dupe sheepie is not the worst I’ve seen by far

Sheepie so good

[proven roost]

dupe anything is shit

because you have to wait another week, only to get another sheep

[warm beacon]

Yes but dupe sheepie is better than dupe sandy pot

[viral snow]

I love my sheepie
But I do not gain anything from dupes that were free anyway
cant even recycle it

[viral snow]

Glad I got 3-4 sandy pots so far

[warm beacon]

seen someone get 3 slimes for all his free pulls

Truly scuffed

[viral snow]

Somethings off in my game
Respawn rate is crazy high all of a sudden
I am barely able to clear bop boxes with my ES

[native dock]

any tips for sailing?

[pulsar cliff]

Check often, I personally don't use the SB talent so that I double the chests I open when I collect (If I've gathered more than my cap)

and know that it'll take a long time to get all artifacts fully levelled haha

[native dock]

i currently have like the first 3 islands with all relics

[dense pebble]

Does Arctis + Goharut work? (So that Arctis makes you always active at lab, and Ghoraut makes you active at altar when active in lab?)
I kinda assume no, but cant hurt to ask right 😄

[pulsar cliff]

Does not.

[pulsar cliff]

Just keep going really lol. Rift in W4 eventually unlocks a third tier to relics.

[pulsar cliff]

Basically treats being active in lab =/= being connected to lab. You have to physically be hooked up for Goharut.

Tranquility will be your friend.

[native dock]

cant do rift rn need more aoe/dmg :/

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah it definitely takes time to get through 'em all

[vernal depot]

yo guys, is there any easy way to fight the last kattlekruk on BB? all BB's skill seem too close-range so i'd have to run left and right killing moles for 1 hour

[viral snow]

More dmg

[vernal depot]

gigachad

[warped cedar]

Can anyone confirm w5 boss drops his cards?

[pulsar cliff]

You'll want to get used to that technique, it's how you have to do it with VMan lol

[pulsar cliff]

Can confirm

[warped cedar]

Damn I must be super unlucky

can't even get 1 chaotic card drop

Just got my card drop stamp and got it straight to lv 160 too

[pulsar cliff]

Are you using card drop cards as well?

[warped cedar]

Yea

I'm at like 20 kills now

Not a lot of course but first card normally has pretty high rates

[pulsar cliff]

Hm. What's your drop rate?

but yes I really can confirm, I've done a LOT of kattle farming.

[warped cedar]

can't even get it to drop

Does drop rarity affect card drop too?

Wish u could see info in boss arena to see the card drop chance

[worn swan]

I was slow with my vman grind and unlocked it after the boss launched, got the chaotic boss card from the free vman pack lol

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah it has some affect on it. Card drop rate is better, but yup

[warped cedar]

Oh only 4.98x on ES

[pulsar cliff]

I mean definitely could be higher but it isn't bad or anything. I'm about to do some nightmare runs and let you know how it looks for me? I'm around 13 DR.

[warped cedar]

Oh its only exp from monsters

[pulsar cliff]

It's Sailspeed (Passive) EXP from monsters, gold from monsters.

[prisma drift]

Whew I’ve been slacking

Could have done this so long ago

[pulsar cliff]

Yup - Quick with some candies to ruby card 'em.

[finite charm]

higher multikill is higher money yes?

[modest warren]

i dont think mk effects money

i dont remember if it does for afk tho

drop rate does tho at certain intervals

[finite charm]

it doesn't, just going to active overnight fo money at tremor worms want to maximize profits

yeah im at 7x atm

[modest warren]

on idle toolbox theres a money gain multi on each character that tells you all the sources plus the total

theres also a prayer that helps

[opaque sun]

Mk only increases base mob drops (top left most item on card)

[modest warren]

damn thats why i get so many frisbees

[finite charm]

where on idle toolbox?

[modest warren]

on the character tab

lemme screen shot it

[opaque sun]

Well there is a money star talent that checks the multikill damage tier, but not a direct result of mk

[finite charm]

wish there was an endgame money making guide never bothered with it till recent

[modest warren]

it looks like this

[finite charm]

weitrd mine is blank for some reason

[modest warren]

on the left side click the stats button

[oak hemlock]

Bitch

[finite charm]

wait nvm looking at money lol stoer it in the bank

[modest warren]

it may be off by default idk

[austere zealot]

hello.
Just got to W5. Noticed that I have a very low efficiency even with efficiency cards, card set and prayer. How do I increase that? My divinity efficiency is 1 xF

[opaque sun]

divinity doesnt use efficiency

[modest warren]

i dont think there is div efficency

its just wait

there are multipliers later

[austere zealot]

oh, ok

[modest warren]

does exp increases work

like the card set

[pulsar cliff]

I got an increase yesterday! 24,580 to 24,588. I was so mad.

[pulsar cliff]

yup

[oak hemlock]

😟😟

[modest warren]

its better than when i finally got a 9k nug after weeks then got like 9.01 an hour later

[finite charm]

don't crystals give bonus money?

[wraith granite]

which materials can you get atoms the fastest from? im assuming copper and wood or something

[modest warren]

copper or oak

[finite charm]

wondering if i should double my crystal famring cards or my money faming cards

[modest warren]

oak should be higher tho as it has bigger multipliers plus higher eff usually

[modest warren]

cant do both?

[wraith granite]

ty jtsm

[finite charm]

ooh if you go over 1050 for materials does atom cruncher give you points for it? Or is it wasted? (3d pinter)

[marble hound]

Anyone have a Rift Slug, Bored Bean, or Sandy Pot pet to trade? I have multiple of Sheepie, Molti, Slime, Bloque to trade

[finite charm]

You cant trade yet

[marble hound]

Oh, thought you could with pets

How sad

[wraith granite]

[modest warren]

theres a setting on the collider that you can change when it makes your stuff atoms but keep it at 1050m because thats when bubbles stop scaling

every 10m resources is an atom

[finite charm]

so even though you cant have moer then 1050 in your bank, 3d printer will dump the excess into atom collider?

[empty minnow]

uh so im kinda new to w5 are time candies just not a thing here

[modest warren]

anything you print over 1050 will just be atomized yeah

[modest warren]

candies usually arent available in the latest released world

so in world 6 we can candy world 5

[lyric sequoia]

Bruh I got wings from nightmare kattle before the amulet, what even is this luck

[empty minnow]

oh ok ty jtsm

[steady token]

👀does setting the threhold to 1050m works the same as turning off atom collider?

[modest warren]

no

1050 isnt the max stack

but its effectively the max because you dont need more than that ever

unless you wanna make multiple stacks of say copper for that one talent

[tawny nebula]

what gods should i be connected to if i have king doot??

[modest warren]

none

but i think you need someone connected to purrmep

[steady token]

lion

[tawny nebula]

just slap all 10 on ppurrmep if it doesnt matter now?

[modest warren]

you can only have 1 purrmeep

[inland gyro]

I unlocked perrmeep the other day and it dosent seem to make any difference with doot even after linking someone to him

[lyric sequoia]

You don't have to connect them to anything if you have doot

[modest warren]

well idk exactly how it works

[ancient mirage]

i fill bad for anyone who gets doot before they have gotten all the lab slots unlocked, since that one god give connected to lab but dont receive any exp

[modest warren]

im just assuming it doesnt connect someone random to purrmeep

[inland gyro]

You can still put them in lab to level and they get div exp 2 from the other god

[ancient mirage]

oh so that god counter acts the other once you got doot?

[modest warren]

yes you still get lab exp if your in it

[lyric sequoia]

It connects all 10 to purrmep, the bonus just doesn't stack the same as if you manually connected more than 1 to it prior to this

[modest warren]

plus you get div at the same time

doot is the worst bonus how is it this confusing bro

[steady token]

still need to connect to purrmep

[modest warren]

so no badgur

[lyric sequoia]

No, it has always worked like this. Even with bear if you have them physically in lab they gain exp

[steady token]

for minor link bonus

[inland gyro]

I get all the minor links though on everyone

[ancient mirage]

never knew that but then again i never tried it either since we only recently got 2 god switches a week now

[lyric sequoia]

You definitely do not need to be connected to a got to get its minor link bonus, that's the point of the pet

All characters are counted as linked to all gods

[steady token]

just try and you'll see you sailing speed change

[inland gyro]

Yah I think everyone is connected to purrmeep u just only get the 2x div bonus once

[inland gyro]

I did and did not

[steady token]

check speen multi

[bold quiver]

snail is going to the prom

[modest warren]

what a guy

[ancient mirage]

sheeeeesh

[modest warren]

does anyone know what happens at max level snail

[round elk]

I lost it just there

[bold quiver]

13 to 14?

[round elk]

yup

[bold quiver]

the odds are not looking great, got much worse

[ancient mirage]

cant wait to get the snail so i can spend a ungodly amount of time on hoping it wont fail

[bold quiver]

u keep saying "just one more time, one more time" until u lose it all

[ancient mirage]

nah by the time i get the snail i be saying "were is the credit card again" xD

[bold quiver]

good thing is that if u lose u just leave that closed for a month lol

[modest warren]

im getting like 100b green bits a day so ima save for snail

whats the wors that could happen

[ancient mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-rest-coffee-fire-sit-gif-21284531

[tacit tulip]

pretty sure someone showed a level 25 snail and still had the upgrade button (with like -5% success rate) lol

[inland gyro]

ele sorc has purmeep they are exactly the same

[bold quiver]

O.O not legit right?

cuz i dont think ther ehas been enough time to get to 25

[tacit tulip]

No idea it was around the time lava did the doots and people were mad, someone might have forced it using naughty methods

[bold quiver]

ohhhh that day kkkkkkkkk people went crazy

[tacit tulip]

All I saw was the screenshot 😄

[steady token]

idk, it works for me

[bold quiver]

but either way, odds are not that bad right? 5% in this game is the same as 100%

[tacit tulip]

I mean, it was NEGATIVE 5%

good luck passing with that lol

[bold quiver]

oh shit

u upgrade to 24

[modest warren]

thats messed up

prestige snail

[worn glade]

if i have a sheepie (pet) would my active bubbles be included and double the values?

[tacit tulip]

nah

[steady token]

does this works better than afk keychain when leveling skill?👀 i'm planning to trash it

[worn glade]

so I no longer need to use active bubbles then?

[tacit tulip]

you can just take em all off yeah

[worn glade]

thankss

[tacit tulip]

wey nice little bonus this morning

I have 6k ladles and my fastest meal needs...3.

Anyone wanna do some clicking for me?

[spare cipher]

any advice for advanceing the gaming stat up to green bits?

[tacit tulip]

Gaming is honestly just a function of all your other stuff put into a calculator. Level up things that can be levelled up (Meals, DK talents, Slab), unlock things you don't have (artifacts - normal/ancient/eldritch) and regularly click plants

[spare cipher]

aight, im in the white Q's currently XD

[tacit tulip]

That's fine, green is 1000Q

so just keep progressing and you'l lget there

[spare cipher]

ok not to far off then

tyty

[tacit tulip]

I'm the worlds laziest gamer and I'm at 100B green, so you won't be far off

on that note I can probably afford snail if I save a day or two

[runic girder]

I usually make 57 equal stacks if ladles then go over all my meals using 1 stack per meal

[tacit tulip]

because the vman talent increases your cooking speed per plate level, the most effective way to do it is to level up one plate at a time and cloudsave, reducing the ladles needed for future plates

works great, but is another source of carpal tunnel in this game

[fallow pawn]

getting that molten knuckle recipe is really annoying i guess ill skip it for now

[tacit tulip]

I know how you feel

[fallow pawn]

ill just try to kill nightmare kattle without them, though id craft them, farmed the hampsters and then realized i dont have the recipe

[tacit tulip]

I still need to source a bunch more damage before I try nm kattle with vman 😦

figured I'd do this in the meantime

[fallow pawn]

i want that necklace before ill candy everything to eldrich skulls with sb

so ill try to force it with vman

[tacit tulip]

Have 3k royal urns (so expected average of 3 recipe drops) and finished the vial 🥲

[true obsidian]

does i should gamble with boss skull upgrade stone?

[vocal warren]

How does cons obol snapshotting work? I check construction on my dk with cons obols and exit, IT says my next building is ready in 3hrs, then I active ES and after a while IT says it takes 8hrs to finish the building. What am I doing wrong?

[runic girder]

Im aware but thats too much effort

[tacit tulip]

I've used a grand total of like 60 ladles in that time fml

[runic girder]

And thats why i do it my way lol

[true obsidian]

i don't know how it work, but i heard that it really wonky. Basicly i know that we should log in first with Blood Berserker (or any STR base char with NO CONS OBOLS) so when you close your game, you'll have better build rate while offline than when you log in with other char

[vocal warren]

Yeah but I'm not offline, I'm active afk on ES

[tacit tulip]

yeeey cost is finally 4 ladles

[true obsidian]

active...there is nothing call "active afk"

[runic girder]

Oowh youre doing it that way, i did that when i didnt have a couple k ladles

[vocal warren]

Well yes, character on auto while not playing myself. Active afk 😄

OK so I'm active on ES and my cons snapshot resets? without checking cons

[pulsar heart]

does the ‘Say Hi’ achievement work if you tp around maps and change servers

[tacit tulip]

the w1 one you can do what you want, besides close the game

the w2 one you can change maps

[elder shuttle]

i have all of these but i did some of them on different characters? am i fked?

[tacit tulip]

the quest only updates if you levle up something on that charater

so if you level up any upgrade it'll update

[elder shuttle]

anything at all?

[tacit tulip]

yup

I mean, specific to breeding

levelling up a construction building wouldn't do it

[elder shuttle]

okay worked

ty

[lyric sequoia]

Does respawn speed help with the delay on DK's respawn ability? 🤔

[tacit tulip]

shouldn't do

the skill periodically polls to check if all normal mobs are dead

wouldn't expect respawn speed to effect the skill

[wary girder]

im at the point now of alchemy where i'm unsure of what to do with my cauldron brew usage, any pointers?

[lyric sequoia]

Unlock the bubbles you're missing, max out the 4 levels

[tacit tulip]

If you're zooming cause of bubo, you can proll spam unlock to get all world 5 bubbles. After that I did a mix of speed/extra to max, then maxed cost, then maxed luck

[wary girder]

is there a priority in terms of the 4 levels?

like just upgrade them all to be equal or prio one etc

[lyric sequoia]

Extra first, makes the others easier

[wary girder]

cheers fellas

[tacit tulip]

Speed also helps, but not as much (more liquid -> More upgrades)

[lyric sequoia]

Unlocking all 15 bubbles on each cauldron is more important than maxing the cauldrons out though

[wary girder]

got all 10 chars on div atm going for goat so tryna catch up the rest of my skills etc

[true obsidian]

Only fail 2. Let's gooooooooo

[gaunt island]

and here I am spending 70 w5 shop stones to upgrade a bloody pickaxe

[bright current]

up from 12k

[umbral tapir]

So this is directed at early-mid to mid-mid players: where do you consistently see improvement, even small incremental improvements?

(I ask, because this was cooking for me, but everything is 30+ and takes more than 24 hours minimum to the next)

[wary girder]

is it still the general conscenscious to keep all chars on mantra until 25?

[gaunt island]

vitalic is good only with extra exp bonuses, unless u got those to round it up towards a bigger number mantra is the way until lvl40

[wary girder]

oh wow all the way to 40 hey

when you use goat god for putting chars back in lab does their chakra matter?

[muted bramble]

my last 2 months like this ..

[lyric sequoia]

You've got a BB cooking for ladles to level up plates right, and not actually relying on real afk time?

[gaunt island]

hardstuck at 2005 here :/ contemplating not touching it for a week then see

[muted bramble]

well i personaly like my BS in there to add some meat

[muted bramble]

does that do something ?

[gaunt island]

more than one roll? idk tbh, still figuring it all out myself

[lyric sequoia]

You'll miss out on a lot of digs if you leave it for a week

[umbral tapir]

Yup! About 500+ a day. But I'm at a point where I'm burning the whole stack on one meal.

[lyric sequoia]

Next dig sequentially takes longer the more you have stored

[gaunt island]

hmmm

so what I said makes sense then?

[lyric sequoia]

How's your BB's chows? w1-4 all done?

[muted bramble]

I still need to look into Vman for cooking, like do you do something specific with him or use laddle with BB as usual ?

[lyric sequoia]

If you want to maximize your chances of getting a better nug you click it every hour, but it's still pure RNG

[gaunt island]

yh I'm like day in day out all I see is 110-300 rolls xD

[lyric sequoia]

Vman's cooking ability is just "put points in it and leave points in it"

[umbral tapir]

Chows are at 64 I think. I got him halfway through smoldering when I realized my cooking was lacking.

So I've pushed hard on cooking buts sloooowed right down

[lyric sequoia]

Then just get plate levels

[umbral tapir]

So now I'm looking at the "next place to focus to see improvements"

Feel like roasting my ie?

[eager zinc]

Do you guys know if there is a cranium cooking sheet? For faming optimal

[muted bramble]

me first ?

[lyric sequoia]

And you're minmaxing the plates you're levelling to level cheapest first? IT helps a lot with that

[sweet mountain]

Want to push one more rift level before calling it quits for some time. I can't do nearly enough damage to reach the mob life, to say nothing about multikill 1 (if this wasn't the level that would unlock another bonus I would forget for now). What is a good card setup for this, other than double afk and fighting afk?

[muted bramble]

you'll look better after going through mine

[umbral tapir]

100%

[muted bramble]

https://adesi.idleonefficiency.com here you go

ROAST AWAY

[bright current]

i got dibs on calling out his stamps!

[umbral tapir]

Am I looking to learn? Or looking to roast?

[muted bramble]

roast

this is the most inneficient EI you can find

[bright current]

damn brother, work on ur stilling stapms!

skilling*

[umbral tapir]

https://ice_beaver.idleonefficiency.com/

[muted bramble]

Vman not first in all the good skills ....

[bright current]

missing a bunch of easy slabs too

[lyric sequoia]

Why do you have UE active on so many characters 🤔

[muted bramble]

i dont even know what UE is

does that help you ?

[lyric sequoia]

The prayer

You're hard capping all their afk gains to 10 hours

[umbral tapir]

I'm really trying upping him! It's slow going

[muted bramble]

cause i look at them all around 8h or so

[bright current]

you shud work towards getting the final bubble for each colour, and beefing up the 1st one in each too

[muted bramble]

they never go more than 9

I've been trying to max speed on the cauldron...

[lyric sequoia]

Put GT on them instead of the prayer, the exp bonus isn't good for class exp

[umbral tapir]

Wait, I just worked on my slab upping by like 210 things. Which ones are easy?

[lyric sequoia]

That's an awfully green stamp board

[muted bramble]

that mine ?

[lyric sequoia]

ya

[muted bramble]

well green is good

[lyric sequoia]

No, green is bad

[muted bramble]

thats the one thing i learned in school

lmao

[pulsar heart]

cant get a manual nuget cake drop its been like 20 mins :(

[lyric sequoia]

That's a big oof

[umbral tapir]

So mine is probably also green. But I have questions about green stamps. Is it smart to burn my items and lose green stacks just to up a stamp?

[lyric sequoia]

No

[sick sentinel]

Are you using ES?

[muted bramble]

this looks pricey tho ...

[lyric sequoia]

If you're gonna lose your green stack levelling a stamp then leave it

[lyric sequoia]

You have a gilded stamp, don't waste it on that

[pulsar heart]

yeah ES with 9.5x dr and getting to like 280 portal kills each time

[muted bramble]

what are gilded ?

[lyric sequoia]

95% discount stamps

[muted bramble]

this ?

[pulsar heart]

it just dropped though so nvm

[sick sentinel]

Complain strat op

[bright current]

plus the dungeon weapons but that depends how far u are in

[muted bramble]

What is a must upgrade stamp ?

[bright current]

quest exp reward

[umbral tapir]

Ok, so I haven't been doing honkers. Which is why things are low there.

So we really say that the spikey obols are easy?!?

[bright current]

(butt not rly)

[umbral tapir]

I am lacking in dungeon

[bright current]

ide say they are, if you are farming DR obols on a DK then its really easy to get most of those

and ur eventually gonna be farming DR obols on a DK anyway, plus u wanna statue farm for a bit

[umbral tapir]

I feel like I've made some good progress on Dr obols lately!

[spare sigil]

what is mob respawns good for?

[lyric sequoia]

afk gains

Unused free prints D:

[tough tusk]

a yes the pink bandana is so ez

[raven fog]

Guys how to increase my dr i am at 10.5 amd everything else feels like i need to buy or wait for small things like the even dr card

[spare sigil]

is there a cap for mob respawns?

[lyric sequoia]

None that is achievable to hit

[raven fog]

I see ppl woth 14+ dr

[lyric sequoia]

People were around 14 before kattle came out, have seen 18

[spare sigil]

i tried adding more damage, it wont increase my afk/hr

same to my mob respawn keychain

tried re-entering portals

[bright current]

🤫 i realised too late ide circled it and cbf going back to fix it

[lyric sequoia]

His slab looks much better than mine to be fair

[foggy apex]

havnt played in a while whats with mini doot?

[tough tusk]

i would also say that catching obols are hard the same way as cards obols

[raven fog]

how

[raven fog]

Oh god what’s with ur pfp 😂

[lyric sequoia]

I have like 50+ missing items that I definitely own, I just am too lazy to go find it and drop it on the floor

[lyric sequoia]

By being endgamers with insane mixmax

[raven fog]

But what’s achievable for me

Idw 18

[granite grove]

rush to w5 and doot starts to take effect, basically gives all divinity god active all at once

[raven fog]

I want like 14

What’s urs

[lyric sequoia]

I have no idea what is achievable for you, it's subjective to where your account is at

[raven fog]

And how did they jumd by 4 it’s onöy the trophy and half the gear

[foggy apex]

lol its a jewish black asian ranga

[raven fog]

And short

Ik him

He is rare

[lyric sequoia]

I can push 12 or 13 outside of mman if I move all my DR stuff to my ES probably

[foggy apex]

one of a kind

[raven fog]

More rare than king doot

[spring yarrow]

dr?

[foggy apex]

yeah i want him as my companion lmao

[raven fog]

Drop rate

[spring yarrow]

ahh

[raven fog]

U will ge a debuff

[tough tusk]

go to the first town and click the dog

[lyric sequoia]

Trophy alone is almost a full 1.0x boost with doubler

[raven fog]

Oh yah and still that’s about 2

[foggy apex]

lol

[thin kernel]

best wold 2 map for status farm ? on a dk ofc 😉

[lyric sequoia]

15.28x was the max attainable prior to kattle, so 18 isn't much harder to get to with current patch

[raven fog]

Yahhhh

Honestly like what to do with this dr

Max monster drop vials ?

Or was that achievable before

[lyric sequoia]

There's a spreadsheet in #1084911530417606656 which is prior to kattle if you want to plug in your stats and see what you're missing

[raven fog]

Dr is good for general account progress right or is there something more specific

[lyric sequoia]

Maxing mob drop vials is generally easy without excessive DR, that's ES's main job

[sweet mountain]

shelbies I think. At least I get a lot there when farming for obols

[lyric sequoia]

Sand pots for w2

[gaunt island]

how do u even get 10+ dr, I get it like 3 from family, 1.18 from prayer, po+maxed luck is another 1, shrine+build+bubble is another 1, what am I missing that is account wide and gives a significant boost

ah well u can get like 2 from cards if u got both chips

[lyric sequoia]

Check the spreadsheet, that'll tell you

[sick sentinel]

IT shows you your own breakdown too

[umbral tapir]

Oh, I've got him afking for a long while in the hopes of a big double exp payout with fishing. It takes fucking forever.

[brisk laurel]

how to link 2nd god to es?

[sick sentinel]

Through the ES talent page, there is a pin related to it in this channel

[hexed pine]

oo new recipe

[slender prism]

just got another dupe valcano pet this week RIP!!

[zinc torrent]

My main fisherman is level 71

Does my voidwalker need to be 72 or 71?

[pearl cedar]

72

[tough tusk]

level above

[lyric sequoia]

Oh nice got the 2nd lucky lad I was waiting for, now to just get that scarf recipe...

[cosmic tendon]

SB’s cooldown talent doesn’t seem to affect the flag, does the mana box cd?

[floral garden]

Yay got my 3rd free sandy pot

[bold quiver]

doe anyone know what is the next gold multiplier after 13DR? is it 15?

[opaque sun]

After 13 yeah i think it was 15x

[tacit tulip]

given my vman some love and got his damage up a bit, still more to go tho

[gentle furnace]

Odd numbers keep going

[bold quiver]

@gentle furnace my friend im so close to glory

it must have been almost a month that im trying to get this done kkkkkkkkkkkk

[gentle furnace]

Crazy

[quartz pollen]

Do I always want to save up for boats in sailing? i'm on my 16th boat and it's getting quite expensive, i'm still on island 7

[bold quiver]

u want to save when its the right time to save

i prefer doing the most efficient thing at the moment

[warm beacon]

Yeah only unlock new boats when you get the upgrade materials unlocked

[bold quiver]

there is no point saving to get a new boat that is too expensive when ucould be leveling your normal boat cuz its cheap

The best way to get gold is reaching distant islands, better loot = better gold swap

[steady token]

can I safely trash these xp keychains? I guess i can just use afk keychain?

[bold quiver]

the worst way to get gold is staying on the same island forever trying to get more gold

[quartz pollen]

in IE, upgrading boat till next milestone costs me 3m, while next boat is 5m

[bold quiver]

🫡

gotta make the decision!

i would upgrade to 3M and get to next island, then i'd get a new boat

[bold quiver]

u can trash these are bad (unless u are not using anything lol

[heady scaffold]

technically bis for mman minigames

but candy exists

[brisk laurel]

my 2nd god linked to es is shehebatu, its 1st god but still my afk gain is 60, same as class with not linked 1st god, why is that?

[steady token]

ah, I forget that. ty

double link, maybe?

[nimble yarrow]

for star signs where you have to afk for 20+ hours or whatever does it have to be all at once?

[heady scaffold]

do you have 0 points in the talent

[brisk laurel]

i have polytheism on lvl 0 and its said that i have linked shehebatu but still dont get any +30 afk gains

so which level i have to level it up to get 1st god?

[gentle furnace]

Put 10

[tacit tulip]

10

[heady scaffold]

have you perhaps tried putting points into the talent

[brisk laurel]

even on level 0 it said that i have him linked

[tacit tulip]

yeah, just lava things

put points in ~:D

[brisk laurel]

i do, but it link me with god i dont have

[heady scaffold]

[tacit tulip]

there's 10 gods so every 10 levels it cycles

[brisk laurel]

oh, thanks guys!

[tacit tulip]

it makes sense 0 points doesn't do anything but the talent really should say lol

[jagged relic]

Another untradable sheepie, 2 and counting baby

[steady token]

is there a mini game guide? need pen pal and pong too

[nimble yarrow]

for the star signs that require multiple hours of afk in a certain zone, do those hours have to be in one sitting?

[pallid dune]

Yes

[cosmic tendon]

I just unlocked atom collider and I’m wondering if there is any guide?

Unlocked the first 2 and have a bit over 100 more atoms to spend. I wasn’t really paying attention but i thought the other atoms cost went up when I upgraded the first ones?

[lyric sequoia]

No bone gloves

[vapid steppe]

Its unending loot search good?

[sacred gorge]

They should not

Just max print Cooper ore and wood for max atoms production

Use bunny and lab bonus for x6 print

[cosmic tendon]

The thing in pins makes me think they do not go up my mistake, thank you. Do I just unlock in order or most expensive good bonus I can afford/save to

And am I good leaving it at 15m for now even though it’ll prevent me from boosting some bubbles

[heady scaffold]

set it to 1b and turn the collider off

[lyric sequoia]

Bruh frosty 110 has so much health, I just want to finally unlock beefy

[opaque sun]

dont turn on the atom collider nor change the setting anything but 1050m

[cosmic tendon]

Oof

Blasted my 1050 stacks lol

Or I guess everything

[versed sapphire]

any guides on frosty flights i cant even reach like 3rd stage xd

[cosmic tendon]

It started at 15m but I’ll change it thanks for the tip

And turn off

[opaque sun]

Some noob say that “b-but that gives me particles!” But note, atom collider converts anything at the same rate regardless of the value of the material

[cosmic tendon]

I guess at least I can unlock a couple earlier

Yeah makes sense I only want to convert oak and copper

[bold quiver]

Boulder lvl 25
Hunter with maxed root+kick skill (time it accordingly)
Max all TD starting points sources that ucan. (this is crucial to win early)
Good luck

[lyric sequoia]

God I really hope that poison 54 and 42 cannoli is enough for 120 frosty...

[cosmic tendon]

Andy thing else I farm up should be for specific upgrades not atoms

[undone steeple]

ok i need srs help
this is day number 5 of active/afk the whole night in purgatory on my ES with 8.5x rarity without dropping the recipe
should I just drop my afkers that are on gmush (dk and sb) over here as well? are their odds of dropping it with afk any good?

[opaque sun]

get more dr

[undone steeple]

right now is just impossible

[bold quiver]

get more luck

[opaque sun]

And active is like equivalent of putting 20 guys on afk, so its still better to active

[bold quiver]

U have probably better chance to drop it with 10 characters doing 2 minutes claim than active (not tested, dont do it )

[undone steeple]

theyre all rerolled for +1 dr

[cosmic tendon]

You’re not gonna print any souls there until boulder is over 22-23. There is a guide in fullguide. It can be done a bit earlier than that with better strategy/placement

[opaque sun]

you can choose to afk someone for like 15 weeks straight to guarantee a brute force drop, but not recommended

[bold quiver]

People drop that recipe in a few minutes usualy, u must be doing something wrong 🤡

[undone steeple]

im also wearing efaunt helmet
8% dr on both keychains
new 10% dr premium helmet

lucky lad

these cards

(my gift box card is only silver)

[cosmic tendon]

Do u have the po maxed

[opaque sun]

That card order suggests low on chips

[undone steeple]

yes

dr po maxed

yes i dont hve double card chip

[bold quiver]

dude, there isnt anything u are doig wrong. Its just bad odds

[cosmic tendon]

Star sign

[undone steeple]

hasnt showed up yet since i started playing

[steady token]

at lv276 orb, I noticed there are two orbs when the first orb about to expire. this reset my orb count. is this a bug?

[undone steeple]

5% dr star sign, yes

[bold quiver]

That recipe is that drop rate with ONSCREEN kills, not deathnote etc

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah it’s just bad luck everyone has bad luck on some rare drops sometimes

[undone steeple]

im just saying i cant get any more dr rn

believe me ive looked for it

[bold quiver]

1/100M of actual on screen kills, thats hard!

[undone steeple]

my next family obol only opens up in like 400 lvls now

[opaque sun]

With more mk sources now, people have easier time to reach 1b kills on suggma before a recipe drop

[cosmic tendon]

Imo it’s one of lavas way to make content take longer as u get closer to end of main content

[steady token]

buy dr keychain with flobo.

[undone steeple]

i dont mind having to grind a bit but this is becoming ridi

[bold quiver]

the fun fact is. that gloves is not even "worth" its just flex

[bold quiver]

what is the recipe odd to drop?

[undone steeple]

1 in 5m

[steady token]

max obol, midas prayer, gamble to get some good chips

[bold quiver]

So u just have to kill 5million onscreen monsters 😮

[undone steeple]

midas prayer is not good on es

i dont have gems, im f2p

[lyric sequoia]

I fucking hate tower defence to much

[steady token]

how to solve this

[bold quiver]

i have that it is stupidly slow for no reason. There should be a skip button

[lyric sequoia]

About to start the last leg of the beefy push and the game freezes...

[cosmic tendon]

If u kill like 10k an hour at 8.5 dr it would still take over 2 days average. More with bad luck

[bold quiver]

less lvl

[undone steeple]

isnt it more like 8.5 in 5m, so 588k monsters because of the DR?

[steady token]

kill chizoar to get gems

[bold quiver]

yeah

[undone steeple]

shouldve dropped this shit 4 times by now

[cosmic tendon]

Not how it works

[undone steeple]

obviously

[cosmic tendon]

That number includes kill count buffs

[bold quiver]

yep as i said, its onscreen kills

[undone steeple]

my dude i dont have any kill count buffs

[lyric sequoia]

Welcome to statistics, your chance of getting something actively never reaches 100%

[cosmic tendon]

Nobi, and 2x node for example do not do anything for recipe

[undone steeple]

ah, ok

[bold quiver]

so u have to kill around 1MILLION on screen to have a better chance

[bold quiver]

and every multikill source + every kill per kill source, every mob respawn, everything that boosts dont help with active

[warm beacon]

Max level for orb is like 267

[undone steeple]

i thought mk helped with items out of the bags?

that would include recipe, no?

[lyric sequoia]

Just cheat the system, get 8.5m base kills in a single afk session and you guarantee it

[bold quiver]

if u read the multikil definition on hints u would know that it doesnt

[cosmic tendon]

I think 10k is a somewhat reasonable but random guess of base kills per hour active there. That means average would be 60hr drop with 8ish dr

Some people will be outliers outside that in both directions

[opaque sun]

You need 2/1 chance on a single afk claim to brute force a drop

[bold quiver]

idk, 10k per hour seems like a stretch in such a bad map. And i doubbt he can get his portal over 100

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah lol so way worse than that even

[bold quiver]

i'd guess 5k probably?

[opaque sun]

Suggma is like roughly 5k base kills per hr

[bold quiver]

and that is to reach the odds, not even a guaranteed drop lol

[tacit pewter]

can someone confirm is silver the best rank to have pop obols?

[bold quiver]

u could go 2 3 5 times above that to get

[opaque sun]

Need 100m base kills on a 1x dr to brute force drop

[wide bolt]

some good tips how i can increase my movment speed?

[opaque sun]

Speed potion for speed

[bold quiver]

wait is it 50M drop?

[cosmic tendon]

So somewhere like 4-10 days active might be an ok estimate of average. Which means it would still take a percentage of unlucky ppl 15-20 days

[opaque sun]

Suggma is 50m

[bold quiver]

damn harsh

[undone steeple]

my orb is at 80 on purgatory

[cosmic tendon]

5m, they’re talking about purg one

[opaque sun]

Other non mman recipe are 10 times easier

[bold quiver]

oh he must be very weak then, that drop is easy

[cosmic tendon]

They’re looking for purg drop I think

[bold quiver]

his portal might not even reach 50

would have dropped already with a 100+ portal

[opaque sun]

to brute force suggma to drop a recipe, you need like 10-15 weeks worth of afk

[undone steeple]

dont know how 20 extra kills would just mean guaranteed drop but ok

[bold quiver]

i'd say worth it

drop rate from ES portal is multiplicative

[opaque sun]

If you active during that time, its likely you would get it by then

[cosmic tendon]

Active drops max the dopamine

[bold quiver]

so going 20/30 portals higher DOES make a huge dif

[opaque sun]

Active es is like equivalent of having 20 guys on afk

[bold quiver]

a million!

i doubt 20 guys can deal the same dmg as a meteor e_e

[cosmic tendon]

Full extinction event every 5-10 seconds

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/xablau-fire-explosion-gif-6188118

[opaque sun]

damage isnt an issue with rare drops

[bold quiver]

yeah say that comparing a 80 portal to a 160!

[rustic garnet]

rare drops

[opaque sun]

afk doesnt do portal to begin with so not sure what you trying to compare

[bold quiver]

thought u were talking about active :[

cuz u said active es

[opaque sun]

active es doing drops of like 20 guys on afk (roughly)

[bold quiver]

so giga meteor = infinite dmg = infinite drops

[bold quiver]

what portal number are u comparing this to

[steady token]

does more meteor makes active ES more laggy? it's worse now than when I unlocked ES

currently meteor lv is 234

[bold quiver]

yes, ES is poorly optimized rip. Some people with bad computer specs keep having problems with desync cuz of that

[opaque sun]

Why are you concerned with precise details, i brought the example up as someone asked if its better to have some one afk for recipe

[steady token]

my daily reset timer gets more and more late

[opaque sun]

And my example was saying a guy on afk is like 1/20 as effective than a single active ES

[viscid sandal]

Fellas, can anyone confirm best place to farm silver pens? Someone mentioned bloodbone on DK, but would world 5 be better if you have enough dmg?

[opaque sun]

just for pens, bloodbones

[viscid sandal]

bubo seems to get some spicy kill rate at citringes (w/ auspicious aura)

[opaque sun]

Later world has lower pen drop rate

[viscid sandal]

oh fr? interesting

[opaque sun]

w4+ lacks rare drop tables of obols, which means less pens overall

[cosmic tendon]

Ignoring crystals bloodbones drops pens at 1 in 370k and citrine is at 1 in 766k

[opaque sun]

You still get decent amount in w5 too, but if your objective is “most possible pens as possible”, aim older worlds

[kind geyser]

Nobisect blessing it's broken wtf, it doubled my skill eff

[viscid sandal]

Right on. I've also heard snelbies.. bloodbone >>?

[heady scaffold]

this means you have shit skill eff

[cosmic tendon]

Snelbie is 1 in 475k

[steady token]

bloodbone best

[cosmic tendon]

Check wiki for dr deep in bags

[viscid sandal]

Gotcha, appreciate the confirmation fellas

[kind geyser]

I realized that when I got most of my guys to 200 and started focusing of skilling

[cosmic tendon]

Bloodbone and snelbie map same layout and ur 1 shotting both

[true obsidian]

who is better to farm w5 boss key? Bubo with max lv drop rate prayer or ES?

[kind geyser]

But still it went from 2.8m to 6.3m in catching

[opaque sun]

DK for most people

[quartz pollen]

How to lvl up bm/bb/vman without choco chip

[opaque sun]

ES to farm keys better than DK requires lot of damage

[true obsidian]

DK? i didn't expect that

[quartz pollen]

Goddamn why do I have to wait for december just to get choco chip

[opaque sun]

Wurm map is extremely good for dk as you can get like 900 orb kills

[real surge]

king doot and pearls

[opaque sun]

And wurms got chonky hp making portal kills harder than other mobs

[heady scaffold]

my es is better than dk, but my dk is shit and has like 15x less dmg

[true obsidian]

hmm...

[viscid sandal]

wdym? there's a calendar for the chip rotation?

[kind geyser]

Is there a guarantee choco chip in December?

[heady scaffold]

my dk also has scuffed talents

[true obsidian]

then i'll go with DK and max drop rate prayer

[opaque sun]

Usually its “ES is best at anything a mob drops” but wurms gives big advantage to dk and penalty to es to make an exception to the rule

[quartz pollen]

There is a calender yes

[opaque sun]

Of course, if you are like wis damage freak like sapp, ES will get better drops than DK

Bubo will always be around 1/2 drops of DK

[heady scaffold]

if only everything scaled off wis

[quartz pollen]

with the current chip rotation, yes there's a calender for chips so you can plan ahead and farm the mats

[kind geyser]

The only other option it's p2w your way to it I assume ?

With a 1 in 22 chance

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah

Calendar is in w4 pins I believe

[viscid sandal]

Interesting... ty for this. Super unfortunate y'all have to wait for it though.

[opaque sun]

As for going w6+, DK will be a consistently growing drop farmer as his orb duration will keep getting longer with more talent upgrades, while ES will struggle in later mobs with HP vs damage scaling race

[steady token]

but two orbs

[quartz pollen]

I really hope there's something that can help with chips once w6 comes out, cause I think the next update is gonna come out waaay before the next choco chip

[opaque sun]

Overlap is only a issue during talent 270-310 range

[heady scaffold]

hp vs dmg scale race should be fine

[granite grove]

need to see if w6 will start to scale into quad/pentillion damage or sth, but yeah DK farms stuff better

[opaque sun]

Past 310, the overlap reset loss is offset by pure extended duration

[viscid sandal]

Just save your gems for the chip gacha in the store. Might get it that way

[heady scaffold]

75x more hp from stilted seekers to worms but like 100kx+ dmg from w4 to w5

[opaque sun]

ES will exponentially scale drops against older mobs tho

[cosmic tendon]

1 chip a week in gem shop and u should still get it before December

[opaque sun]

By w7, ES will probably able to farm like 1b mats per portal proc in older worlds

[tropic kiln]

So dk is better at farming keys than es ?

[opaque sun]

For most people

unless you have ES damage like sapp

[tropic kiln]

Is it wurms

[opaque sun]

Wurms

[tropic kiln]

They are almost the same dmg

Thanks

[opaque sun]

Wurms is basically two oj platforms

[heady scaffold]

probably for me too if i actually setup dk properly

[tropic kiln]

Ye I need that orb time

[opaque sun]

sapp’s dk probably just needs to book his orb

[steady token]

i dont under stand, why this is not a issue when orb lv is 310+ . the second orb makes orb count reset to 0, longer duration dont mean bigger orb count any more

[opaque sun]

267 or 310+ for orb levels

[heady scaffold]

orb and statue i think

[opaque sun]

The overlap happen at like 5 sec remaining duration, not “cast instantly when cooldown is ready”

So when it overlaps, it basically causes a flat 10 sec worth loss

If you have say 50 sec longer duration, losing effective 10 sec from that is still a net 40 sec gain

[steady token]

[opaque sun]

Its a loss during the penalty sweet point between 270 ish to 310, but from 310+ ish it starts to become a net gain again

[dull lance]

Does sheepe double the effect ig buble equiped?

[opaque sun]

sheepie makes all big bubble wearing just a cosmetic marker

[granite grove]

no, it just makes all active bubble into passive ina way

[dull lance]

Ok thanks

[granite grove]

tho just to be safe, put all anvil bubbles to all if there are gonna be future upgrades that broke pets, so you wont have to go back and re-assign anvil production for 10 char

the rest is just for decor

[opaque sun]

not like i need to, but i just make it to remind who is what class during the alchemy menu

[dull lance]

Traps to?

[granite grove]

best critter for exp (bonus point if with natural traps), otherwise whatever depending on what you need

[opaque sun]

number of traps were made passive in one of the update anyway

[dull lance]

No bubble gives you another trap if remeber

[opaque sun]

That was made passive aside from sheepie

[granite grove]

best part about sheepie is basically free worship charge %, anvil production, construction exp % and some more without compromising bubble slots

at least for notable ones

[sterile sundial]

Best part about sheepie is that it's uncommon

[granite grove]

i mean its all bubble becoming passive now but still, at least just compared to having to choose between 3 bubbles

[opaque sun]

big p synergy with doot too

[tropic kiln]

How much dmg dp I need for nkattle

How much hp does the moles have

[opaque sun]

moles are like outside mobs

[steady token]

orb cd is like 135s. suppose I have a 200 sec orb at lv 310+(lv276 is 140s). I cast orb named o1 at start. 140s later, another orb named o2 is casted. o1 has 60s left, o2 has fresh 200s, both count is 0. another 140s later, o1 expired, o2 has 60s left, o3 is casted, all counts reset to 0.

[tropic kiln]

What does that mean

[opaque sun]

Same hp as non boss moles

[granite grove]

moles inside boss room are the same mob as moles outside the boss room

[tropic kiln]

I dont think they are

[sterile sundial]

Yeah, you want a max level of 267 so you do not get reset like that

[tropic kiln]

My vman couldnt one shot them when I have mk on normal moles

[opaque sun]

When left on auto, it doesnt recast until your current orb duration is like at “5 sec remaining”

[tropic kiln]

And it was ckattle

[steady token]

so the effective orb length is just 140s after some point. why lv 310+ have an impact on that👀

oh, that's the point. ty

need rift slug to test myself

[opaque sun]

What you saying only happens if you manually recast as soon as the cooldown finishes

So the overlap loss seconds are always a static loss regardless of how long the duration

[untold saffron]

what prayers don't you max other than royal sampler?

[steady token]

I put orb at first slot, so I thought it will cast when coldown is over

[opaque sun]

Fiber of absence

[steady token]

I max everything I can

[opaque sun]

Not like you use fiber prayer as much tho

[sterile sundial]

Do we not max Balance of Pain?

[opaque sun]

Maxing fiber makes the window of when it is useful very narrow

[lyric sequoia]

Can you unlock prayers by the 2h boss timer on TD expiring?

[opaque sun]

that one is never used so nobody cares

[steady token]

[opaque sun]

You can, but if you can stall that long you can do it normally

Unless you have a crazy idea of having 15 kraken towers only

[steady token]

no harm td achivement when

[granite grove]

just need a void for anti-tp, a poison for aoes, freeze, and maybe few parties for perfect stall

[cosmic tendon]

If I have a stack of 1050m oak and I print 13m per hour. A second stack is never created. I assume 10m is immediately converted to an atom but where is the other 3m?

There’s no second stack and the stack doesn’t go up to 1053. Would 4 hours of this print 5 atoms or are the extra 3m per hour just lost?

[sick sentinel]

i think it get converted still just kind of invisible until th extra 7mil gets converted

[cosmic tendon]

Thanks

[bold quiver]

the one prayer everyone hoped it was additive but its multiplicative reduction D:

[cosmic tendon]

I’ve seen ppl split stack in their chest “for atoms” can anyone tell me the reason for this?

I just unlocked it and still trying to figure out the ins and outs

[sick sentinel]

its not split for atoms but rather the efficiency bonuses from resources

[cosmic tendon]

Ohh

[sick sentinel]

like the logs for catching samplees or copper for mining

[bold quiver]

ohh logs for catching samples

[sick sentinel]

yeah chopping has leaves

[bold quiver]

kind of a waste isnt it? its so easy to max catching stuff

[cosmic tendon]

As in 2 100m stacks samples better than 1 200m stack

Or so that they can go over the 1050 limit

[warm beacon]

To go over the limit