lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[elder shuttle]

actually i think its impossible xd

[bold quiver]

told u

[elder shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

my only saviour

[shrewd nexus]

thanks! i see bubble 6 isnt emphasied much (base dmg). its not that good? someone else was saying it could like triple dmg

[gaunt island]

last three bubbles is where the dmg at

[bold quiver]

early game no. Late game they are better but u can neglect

[shrewd nexus]

ah ok good to know

nice exp and larry

lvl 459 consturction bubble, ok im clearly slacking o that one

[bold quiver]

oh dont mind that, i've started leveling it 2 days ago

[tacit tulip]

In what will definitely upset a minmaxer somewhere I've made 7 sets of kattle this week

Just 3 to go

[bold quiver]

full set? damn

[sick sentinel]

sakori dont give a fuck

[bold quiver]

problemm is that gotta keep magma set for sampling, at least 1 of each class

[tacit tulip]

this guy about to have his life blinged to hell

[gusty fossil]

nice

[bold quiver]

good staff, can u give me that

[tacit tulip]

It's my bubo's staff so sure

He can have gloves

[bold quiver]

i cant bring myself to farm hampters... ive farmed 200 1 time for the material bag for ES and never went back

[north juniper]

Is there a cap to the arcade balls before claiming?

[tacit tulip]

technicallymissing vman gloves, but 7 sets 😄

[lavish cloak]

Any trophys or wing drops?

[shrewd nexus]

use DK, it wont be faster but by the time you realise its not faster, and test it on dk and es youll have a bunch of hamsters

[tacit tulip]

nope

[bold quiver]

why would u craft 10 sets of that?

[tacit tulip]

to upset minmaxers

[bold quiver]

what do u mean upset?

its just random crafting

[tacit tulip]

They'll be mad it;'s not optimal

[bold quiver]

its not even minmaxing

[tacit tulip]

sakori why you using not magma

because I don't wanna

[full walrus]

if i want to rush divinity lvl and i dont care abount the points, is mantra the best style? My max divinity lvl is 31

[bold quiver]

no like, its dumb

[tacit tulip]

mission accomplished

[fervent brook]

I will have one set in the future for active character only. everyone else on magama

[lavish cloak]

People who concern themselves with others experience are sakori's target

[bold quiver]

its not upsetting it just doesnt make sense

[shrewd nexus]

yeah because it gives 10 xp total which is more than any other youll have

[bold quiver]

u could be using a anvil 1 helmet and boots on them, it would be the same

[full walrus]

ok, thanks

[deep lodge]

He's talking about the gear being worse than magma, not the upgrades stones

[bold quiver]

but the gear is not worse

its just for a different use, thats the point

[tacit tulip]

and I'm gonna ignore those uses and use kattle

[fervent brook]

Doesn't that change if you have a high enough double exp chance?

[bold quiver]

its the same idea as taking samples using afk fighting rings

or no skilling tools

[shrewd nexus]

doesnt really matter? im jsut comparing the base rates of each style, unless im misunderstanding you

[echo crag]

not everyone like to min max the fun out of a game

[tacit tulip]

I can't hear you I'm working on making new shoes sorry

[bold quiver]

So, again....... Its not min maxing

min maxing would be snapshotting mana when sampling

[echo crag]

it is cuz your saying its not optimal

[bold quiver]

Im not saying its not optimal, its just useless

[deep lodge]

@tacit tulip You still on DK at wurms?

[bold quiver]

Thosse are different concepts

[tacit tulip]

I moved back to ES to farm some clogs to make shoes

It did speed up a little tho

[bold quiver]

ITs like equipping mob respawn armor on a character that is going to be sampling......... Its not min max its just useless

[heady scaffold]

🍿

[bold quiver]

might as well not use armor

[fervent brook]

I think Vitilic is better with over 50 percent chance double exp chance if everyone is on Divinity

[bold quiver]

your terms are incorrect as to what is being refered, thats what im explaining lol

[echo crag]

its still min maxing, cuz you want to squeez every pts of efficiceny as possible of your build

[bold quiver]

yeah u dont get it, whatever peace

[fervent brook]

The Vman cooking skill is absurd. I just took time to level all my meals and my cooking speed increased an incredible amount.

[deep lodge]

I understand what you mean friend, don't worry

[bold quiver]

its like saying that someone that is skilling without any tools is not min maxing, its illogical for the term

[tacit tulip]

This would matter if I wasn't just gonna put everyone on bear and farm deathnote using the new gear

[bold quiver]

or someone that is playing the game with oly 1 character without gear is not min maxing

[shrewd nexus]

tbf they would not be min maxed

[manic moat]

Does anyone filter their sailing treasure chests to a higher one? if so, what level?

[bold quiver]

its good to 2nd tier or more if u are gone for a long time

[shrewd nexus]

i do silver, and check once a day. ppl will tell you this is wrong, but im a brave dog

[deep lodge]

There was a weird guy a few days ago what would do silver overnight, and put it back to bronze for boats waiting in the docks

[bold quiver]

dou get max pile with that strategy?

[manic moat]

oh man, I've been on the thrid chest since the beginning lol

[shrewd nexus]

i tried doing that an instantly got eldritch 25+ lvl artifact, so im keeping it out of supersition

[heady scaffold]

use sb talent if youre afking for a long time, and dont use it if not

[shrewd nexus]

mostly not

[heady scaffold]

and dont filter chests

[manic moat]

I use SB talent every time I check

[bold quiver]

have u been getting artifacts and lot of boat upgrades? '.'

[manic moat]

I thought so, but apparently not enough

[deep lodge]

Show your artifacts

[bold quiver]

hey if u are not a min maxer u might as well leave the last chest rarity only

[bold quiver]

and for how long have u been at W5?

[manic moat]

since day one .....lol

[bold quiver]

yeah............... not good then

rly rly bad

[deep lodge]

Yeah, that's not great...

[manic moat]

my highest speed is 3m right now so not at last few islands

[deep lodge]

Try to get the tablet to ancient

[bold quiver]

hmm if u are happy doing what u are doing its fine tho, but its very bad

[manic moat]

ok, switched to first chest, I'll see how that does for a bit. Thanks

[deep lodge]

How often do you check sailing?

[bold quiver]

SAiling works like this: U push to furthest island, get resource from that and the one before, swap everything for gold and keep boosting

[manic moat]

I check multiple times a day depending on all my afk sailing boosts

[deep lodge]

Yeah then you should definitely not use the filter, and not the SB talent either

[bold quiver]

oh man i feel sad for u lol, doing that slowed down your sailing tremendously

if i were u i'd join the 9 omniphau + 1 purmep cult and start grinding

[manic moat]

I was wondering how people were getting loads of artifacts so quickly lol

[deep lodge]

For easy speed gains:

• Get the tablet to ancient
• If you can get to kattlekruk, get his normal card to 4*

[bold quiver]

so what lead u to keep that chest rarity so high

[deep lodge]

You can also buy two ancients at random per week with gems, so that's quite a boost if you have the gems

[manic moat]

wanted better loot lol

[bold quiver]

😮 need to increase gold rarity on boats

[deep lodge]

In both gaming and sailing, quantity > quality usually (not always true for gaming)

[manic moat]

gaming is different though right? gaming is all about rng for shovel?

[bold quiver]

the way i finished whole sailing in around 3 months was just upgrading everything with what i got and only swapping loot with that shady guy from last 2 islands to boost first 4 boats

[green eagle]

shovel is only early mid gaming

[deep lodge]

Do you have the chemical plant unlocked?
As an example, i've seen many people these days waiting to stack up on DNA for a high% chance of unlocking chemical. This is a really bad idea, you should click as often as possible

[manic moat]

well I'm still at x4,000 and can't do anything

[green eagle]

you upgrade it still, but after a certain point your nugget is not as important as other things

[bold quiver]

u just have to fix your chests from sailing and thats it, keep upgrading all boats gg u will be fine

[green eagle]

my nugget is only 11800 and it isn't something i worry about anymore

[manic moat]

I don't but I click once it gets to .6%

[bold quiver]

u can get everything with time

[deep lodge]

0.6% feels ok, but I saw people waiting to get to 3% (it doesn't go higher)

[green eagle]

it was 3963 for months and eventually you can catch up to others by upgrading things

[manic moat]

That's 3 times higher than mine. I still can't get pong

[green eagle]

and i got pong with my 3963 nugget

[manic moat]

that doesn't seem right, you had to have waited weeks

[little harbor]

W5 newbie. Should I be harvesting gaming or getting sailing loot on a specific character?

[deep lodge]

pong is kinda useless anyway, x2 upgrade and that's it. Worst upgrade by far

[green eagle]

i've been in w5 since it released

[manic moat]

same

[deep lodge]

Gaming is whatever, but once you unlock the tiger god (and equip him) you should check sailing on a character that has the "Big P" bubble equipped

[green eagle]

gaming and sailing (mainly sailing) were some of the most highly anticipated skills he's released, and it is now some of the worst rng he's ever released

[deep lodge]

Also, make sure the talents that boost these skills are active on other characters

[green eagle]

ignoring doot of course

and you just keep upgrading as you can

it isn't a race

[little harbor]

Thanks. Only have 3 gods so far, so just going to use whoever til then.

[fervent brook]

If you have the Vmann cooking skill at a high level you are really shooting yourself in the foot if you are not taking some time to all your meals a bit.

[stiff prairie]

I've just gone back to meal cooking and gotten quite a few to lvl 11, the rates definitely gone up quickly

[pulsar heart]

gaining like 200m dmg per green stack

[wraith granite]

how does leveling up the kitsune roxie boost it? i'm not sure what % faster active bonus means

also does upgrading the pong controller really do nothing

[tacit tulip]

Believe it adds to the speed bonus it provides

So 4x is +300%, each level up adds 1% to that bonus

[green eagle]

and with it you go ZOOMINNN

i've been working on t6 plants for a little bit, but this is how long my plants take for a cycle right now

[rustic garnet]

how is your cost so low?

ah nm

you have the speed guy on

For the roxie -- when should you actually use it?

[zinc torrent]

Hi guys. Currently at island #9, no luck getting artifact to move to the next island. Should i change my captains? Returning to previous islands? Upgrading?

[rustic garnet]

Those are very bad captains

I'd be surprised if you haven't found better

[shrewd nexus]

keel-haul em

[rustic garnet]

most of yorus are very bad base stats

[zinc torrent]

Tbh i never replaced them, kinda busy at work so optimization is a chimera

[rustic garnet]

you asked

I answered

dont' say you're busy after you ask what to do 😉

replace like, all of your captains, check daily

use idleontoolbox to help too if you need

[zinc torrent]

Ok i ll hoard some ingots and replace them

[rustic garnet]

It wouldn't hurt to leave 1 or 2 ships on these islands to get more resources

What I did for the most part was send each ship to the furthest island they could do in one 'collection'

you choose what a collection is for yourself

to me, it was 2 hours for a while, then it turned to 4-5 hours

[zinc torrent]

Tbh yours doesnt look way better but ok

[rustic garnet]

?

I haven't shown you mine

[shrewd nexus]

lol this guy

[rustic garnet]

Mine absolutely smack yours 😉

I'd even go as far to say...a few of those captains are equal to all of yoru bonuses combined 😄

Meow

I think it's entirely up to you

picking is tedious

and sometimes 'quick' is better than 'don't bother'

I have a few strats for gaming

[zinc torrent]

Ok i double checked, you sent a screen of MY captains. My bad, too stressed

[rustic garnet]

I was highlighting your improvements to you

[tacit tulip]

I typically forget about it every few days then harvest everything when I remember

[zinc torrent]

Ok no problem, sorry again

[rustic garnet]

Meow -- strat if you want

I tend to save all of the 'chemical ones' and only use them when my log is not 'ready'

[shrewd nexus]

also a lot of prgress in gaming comes from unrelated features, so doesnt matter that much if you negelect it a bit. although at some point when its pratical pushing for snail is big

[rustic garnet]

and I tryt o click all of the cactus ones before hitting ahrvest all

[green eagle]

100 more to go for the next big construction upgrade

[rustic garnet]

That's all I'd do Meow

[wraith granite]

holy this is a wake up call

i need to seriously focus on my captains lol

[shrewd nexus]

tbh one strat would be jsut spam harvest all often till you unlock chem. unlocking chem will do more than any micromanging could have

[rustic garnet]

I was in the same boat too Eris 😉

[glad crow]

is there anyone that has succeded on rolling the new tool stone on a dreadlo tool yet?

like hitting all of them?

[rustic garnet]

I'm sure there are numerous

I'

I've done 3 scarfs

just for fun

its like a 3% total damage upgrade

[glad crow]

i think my highest scarf is 40 main stat

[rustic garnet]

how?

[shrewd nexus]

2.8% chance to get 8 onto the best armour, so just make like 40 sets of the best armour and trash 39 of them, EZ

[rustic garnet]

4.5% by my calc

.68^8

[glad crow]

but with a perfect dreadlo axe, we would be looking at 88 skilling power and 89 wis

[shrewd nexus]

maybe i remembered wrong 64% to the 8th power?

[rustic garnet]

.68 is max you get from guild boost

you may be lower if your guild hasn't maxed it

[shrewd nexus]

i do not have max guild so guess thats why

[glad crow]

if only i had gotten those +3 from crafting

[rustic garnet]

Oh, you have 5 slots

cool

proc from archer

[glad crow]

but i got a perfect stinger

[rustic garnet]

stinger?

[sacred verge]

Any1 else have problems with followers on ios? Cant recycle them

[rustic garnet]

ah ok, is that for aura farm?

[glad crow]

ye

i also got all rolls on a poop pickaxe, so that is a really good stat stick

[rustic garnet]

eh

I forget about it and use it

[lavish cloak]

HNNNNGGGGHHHH!!!!

[glad crow]

now just get it too be +11 eff

[winter cape]

how do I stop this

[glad crow]

with mysteri stones

[glad crow]

just exit

[lavish cloak]

i'm skeptical, but also leaving a 25% chance of you know what you're talking about.

[winter cape]

will the wave still count?

[viral turret]

Yes

[winter cape]

ty. is there any point going past 200?

[glad crow]

look on ie or it and see if it have updated, if it has then yes

[lavish cloak]

ah, so it can affect the misc roll, but also be minus, so it's gamba

[winter cape]

haven't thought of that. thanks

[glad crow]

yes.... and it can also just hit other stats

[lavish cloak]

if it hits other stats it doesn't matter. so it's just a choice of w5 strength-ing it, or gamba-ing it into oblivion for the hope of even +1 %

[golden gust]

This green guy worth right?

[lavish cloak]

if you have any boat that only has less than 21 boat speed, it's worth it. otherwise it's trash.

[golden gust]

A lot of mine do

[glad crow]

there is also the 3rd option, gambling with the kattlekruk stones too strenght it

[golden gust]

If you refer to lvl 1 captain speed

[undone steeple]

Does food effect from both signs and post office box work on gummy candy for sailing afk? It doesnt increase on the tooltip, but Royal Turban does increase the tooltip

[gentle furnace]

royal turban increase gold food effect

not the others

[cosmic tendon]

Bad wording but gold food isn’t part of all food

[golden gust]

Badger expensive to summon crap

[rustic garnet]

Idleontoolbox dashboard can help you make a call there too

[shrewd nexus]

dont worry too much on badger, all you are getting is its level up at the bottom, it has no skill itself

also the "god level" thing on ES is BS

[golden gust]

Yeah but im unlocking the damage buff from es and im still trying for 1k lab with div for now. Close though 25 levels leftm

[silver moon]

When I get to w5, should I have all my characters that are able to push the map do that?

[golden gust]

Oh its bad?

[rustic garnet]

check the pin

there is a guide to w5 there

[silver moon]

To have the boss unlocked on all characters or is that kind of a waste?

[shrewd nexus]

god levels are way harder than unlocking gods, and the bonus is small. if your struggling with bager, you aint getting much god level

[hollow wasp]

max afk time is 10h.
me not logging in the char 36h: 😯

[rustic garnet]

time to unclick it

the bonus is worse than it seems

as it's additive to other boosts

[shrewd nexus]

ES with lag: "i see no diffrence betweeen these times"

[hollow wasp]

😄

[misty hill]

Is Nobisect good for barbarian chow stacking? DOes the 2x kills actually work on that too?

[rustic garnet]

yes it does

[misty hill]

Works with the lab thingy that gives 2x kills too or just use one of the two?

[shrewd nexus]

it stacks

[misty hill]

Thank you! ❤️

[shrewd nexus]

yw

[golden gust]

Struggling is different than expensive i have 2 at 100 and all the none atoms ones above 60 already.

But my atom production sucks

[shrewd nexus]

later in the game you will learn what a god level is

[golden gust]

Thats not the lvl up for minor link?

[cosmic tendon]

God rank

[shrewd nexus]

ah ok mb, had the term a bit wrong, but its the ES thing after you unlock all 10 gods

[pulsar heart]

whats the max number of atom upgrades you can get daily

[shrewd nexus]

50

[tacit tulip]

And another 10 from an achievement, so 50 total

[bold quiver]

Has anyone tested if u get more plunderous mobs at citrines or tremor wurm? i tested tremor but only got 700 an hour =/ kinda lame

[lusty grove]

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[obtuse orbit]

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[tacit tulip]

I found myself getting more at citringes

[fathom lagoon]

Qq, noticing a bug with the shrines.

In w4 rn on soda can map w my DK, all previous maps I can tell the shrine is working cause my max dmg is 1.5 mil but on soda can map it’s at 900k.

I have the lab node for shrines being placed in town to effect whole world & I also have the sailing artifact. Has anyone encountered this before?

[tacit tulip]

The multihit attacks like the mini cannonballs kill a lot more mobs when fired on a single platform

[shrewd nexus]

not enough acc for dmg talent?

[fathom lagoon]

Doesn’t happen to mt other chars tho

[bold quiver]

hmm if i could make SB stay only at the bottom floor of tremur i think it would be better

[fathom lagoon]

OHHH you’re right

It’s def that

Thank you thank you

[bold quiver]

but when it climbs the rope it sucks

[chrome gust]

hey, i'e been out for a bit. can anyone tell me which difficulty of kruk is best to farm for kruk teeth for gear upgrading?

[cosmic tendon]

What cards are y’all using in skill set with all passive? I have c efaunt, c troll, Amarok, bunny, biggie

[bold quiver]

chaotic

[fathom lagoon]

Yup added an accuracy card and back to normal

Thanks guys

[tacit tulip]

Chaos probably, the key to teeth ratio is better

[bold quiver]

u also cant get the 2nd teeth at normal

[chrome gust]

yeah second teeth i'm over sustaining

[bold quiver]

oh so normal

[tacit tulip]

Yeah if you just need normal teeth, normal

[cosmic tendon]

Main stat even tho it doesn’t seem like it’s significant enough to affect afk info?

[bold quiver]

just divide all normal loot rate by 5 and u have the chaotic equivalent

[chrome gust]

wish i'd stacked up more armor upgrade tokens

didn't think this armor would be so easy to make

[rustic garnet]

which?

[chrome gust]

the newest boss armor?

[rustic garnet]

I'd hold off on just spamming it

kruk is a dps loss in some places

[bold quiver]

its kinda very time consuming making the armor...

[tacit tulip]

Or just make it anyway, cowards

[bold quiver]

cuz saving 9k nullo isnt that easy

[bold quiver]

Cuz its a new gear, not an upgrade from magma '.'

[heady scaffold]

[bold quiver]

most of the anvils have 2 gear type, that anvil follows the same logic apparently

[rustic garnet]

It takes magma to make, but it's just not that much better

and in some pieces, worse

[bold quiver]

Helmet + Boots for drop rate.
Armor legs for afk fighting.
Anyting else u keep magma

[rustic garnet]

Yeah, that's what I sorta feel too

mob respawn is pretty good

[bold quiver]

That new boss gear is BIS for everything its boosting

[rustic garnet]

make all the weapons, 100%

[glad crow]

its a sidegrade, not a upgrade

[bold quiver]

mob respawn insane, drop rate insane

Im crafting mob respawn for everyone, then drop rate only for ES and DK

[rustic garnet]

drop rate if you need it, sure

I'd say for your active farmer sure

[bold quiver]

u only lose around 3% of your sheet DMG with a full set swap also '.'

and at 19k wisdom u lose around 900

so u are not losing much in reality

[cosmic tendon]

Anyone have tips on what cards to use in skill set with all passive? I have c efaunt, c troll, Amarok, bunny, biggie

Boost food

[full walrus]

When something increases the divinity gain, is it just for divinity points or points and exp?

[cosmic tendon]

Thank you

[bold quiver]

you are welcome. U change the purple worm for whatever main stats u need

Also if u are using candies for exp remember to swap something for extra double claim chance

SETS : After a point skill efficiency is always better than afk gains, i use skill eff

[peak bane]

hello

[rustic garnet]

almost no dps change, strangely a drop in DR?

and class exp?

[oak hemlock]

Its for sampling?

[cosmic tendon]

Thanks that’s perfect for sample and if I need exp I might put c efaunt back in/experiment but I just did a round of lvling across all chars and skills

[bold quiver]

skilling in general but i do use that for sampling

[rustic garnet]

I don't know how my DR changed downward

[bold quiver]

cuz u changed something else

[oak hemlock]

@bold quiver ty

[sick sentinel]

your exp too

[rustic garnet]

No I didn't....

[bold quiver]

u just changed something else

[rustic garnet]

I did, nm

[bold quiver]

ive read people saying that for more times than i can count and they always did

[full walrus]

When something increases the divinity gain, is it just for divinity points or points and exp?

[rustic garnet]

There we go, so a bit more DR... But really not much

I'd say the respawn is where I'll get value

[misty hill]

I've got 2 DKs, both shouldn't have '1000 hours played' right, I assume they dont stack?

[bold quiver]

DR increase is huge

[rustic garnet]

It's not?

[bold quiver]

? sometimes u need 0,01 to reach a breakpoint, so it is huge

[cosmic tendon]

Are break points just while numbers or is there more to orb

[rustic garnet]

it's a small increase, nice to have, but small

[bold quiver]

game math is based on rounding

[cosmic tendon]

More to it*

[bold quiver]

itdoesnt give u half items or half something. So an increase of 0,1 is huge for drop rate

[sick sentinel]

divinity gain is points i believe

[bold quiver]

wdym by is tehre more to it?

for xample u might need 0,01 drop rate to reach a breakpoint and get 2x loot from a mob or 3x

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah there is more to it. I was wondering if you meant 1.5 or 2 dr was the breakpoint

[bold quiver]

u might need 0,1 drop rate to get 1 extra drop multiplied by your orb

[sick sentinel]

look up 13jrohrer's video on drop rate if you want a deep dive into it

[bold quiver]

or card drop, etc

[cosmic tendon]

But I’m understanding it’s a breakpoint of the multiplication with the odds of what ur farming

[bold quiver]

Kinda yeah, but its more because the game rounds your drop on guaranteed loots

[cosmic tendon]

My dr is 6.x and I seem to get a golden plop (1 in 10) every time

On dr def

I imagine that started at 5 or 5.01 dr if I’m understanding

[bold quiver]

yeah thats kinda how it works (not the actual numbers but the idea)

hence the reason why 0,25 drop rate from new gear is insnely good

haha

[cosmic tendon]

Cool thank you, I’ll figure it out more eventually

[bold quiver]

One of the examples:
U need 9,15 drop rate to get x2 spore caps at green mushrooms. Not 9.14

[glad crow]

also it isnt just 0.25, because it also get buffed by siege breaker

[bold quiver]

yeah

[cosmic tendon]

Ohh well that’s strange

[bold quiver]

nice a new good one. i was missing a 60% from this direction

[golden gust]

I just got 65 down

First ulti with big xp

[bold quiver]

my downs are all 60

im missing 2 of these to complete everything player construct , but i cant seem to get it

Does anyone know if there are some breakpoints for cog production stats? or does it keep increases as u get more levels

[golden gust]

Pretty sure there isnt since you just keep lvling for better build rate.

[sick sentinel]

i always assumed it increased each time, but maybe one of the endgame cons people know

[bold quiver]

ill try asking at endgame

[cosmic tendon]

Is it based on lowest chars lvl or highest?

[sick sentinel]

65% is max on booster cogs tho

[golden gust]

Cus i know people with lvl 600 + dks

[sick sentinel]

highest

[cosmic tendon]

Thx

[bold quiver]

boooster u mean player construct exp?

[cosmic tendon]

Highest in slot or in account

[golden gust]

Oh shoot really? Big pog max roll then

[sick sentinel]

the pointer cogs

[bold quiver]

oh sweet, those are the ones i care about.

[sick sentinel]

whether they be build,exp,flaggy

[cosmic tendon]

So max 65% nothing sowwy

[sick sentinel]

exactly

[cosmic tendon]

Is it highest char in the production lineup or in account

[sick sentinel]

account

[cosmic tendon]

Seems like lineup

[golden gust]

Ive had a 57 nothing 😦

[cosmic tendon]

Hmm damn thanks

[sick sentinel]

cogs do produce faster with your higher level cons boys in there tho, so you can find cogs better

[bold quiver]

gonna try to get some cogs, last time i did my characters were close to 300, now they are almost 400

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I see the speed scaling in the right bar is decent

[golden gust]

Geeezz

My con feels good but i also see how little i am at

Still need to unlock like 12 spaces though

[sick sentinel]

its super timegated

[north juniper]

Did a 4000 arcade ball run this morning. That hat is eluding me like the plague. But I did get the pickle.

[bold quiver]

do u know what i did to finish my spaces? i focues on 1 side at a time and filled that area with every directional speed to flags i could find

finished all 16 cornes tiles very very fast

[golden gust]

Yeah ive been debating if i should start doing some flaggy

I got two or 3 decent flaggy directionals

[bold quiver]

speed to flags is the most insane thing there is, use those directionals

[viscid sandal]

wait you only have one character on the board?

[bold quiver]

even if they have 0 exp, u use them, trust me

[bold quiver]

2

[north juniper]

Double DK construction goes brrrr

[sick sentinel]

2 squire gang, everyone else on cogs

[viscid sandal]

ah interesting lol

[bold quiver]

and never claim cogs even with everyone at cogs lol

i think i claim cogs once per day top, and its only the last one kkkkkkkkk

[shrewd nexus]

i man they more just all on cogs to keep them off the board

[north juniper]

!guide check out the construction tab in this. It'll make more sense ♥️

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[sick sentinel]

if you leave only the 2 on you can fill with all juicy exp and exp booster cogs

[bold quiver]

yeah just dont make the mistake of going 2 squire too soon. That would slow your build speed down tremendously kkkkkkk

for 0 benefits cuz squire are too weak

[viscid sandal]

holy crap lol what's with that build rate

[north juniper]

You mean as far as boosting their talents go?

[sick sentinel]

levels scale buildrate really well from the orange bubbles

[north juniper]

I mean I have both my DKs with near level 200 books thank god

[bold quiver]

no like. Its good to keep 2 squire on board only when they can get u more build speed than 6-7 players onboard

[shrewd nexus]

i think they talking about construction skill level, not talent books

[viscid sandal]

Interesting.. unfortunate i made two barbarians a while back 😦

That said, anyone know why my lowest level barbarian has the highest construction level? No idea why he scaled faster than everyone else

[shrewd nexus]

im confused at why your build rate is only 796k/hr though, is your squire not on the board or soemthing?

[bold quiver]

yeah only 2 players no squire

[sick sentinel]

could be from the specialized skill exp talent on warrior page?

also you can hope for an elite class swap to come back to the gem shop if u wanted to change it in the future

[shrewd nexus]

dont orange bubbles help that class on construction

[sick sentinel]

if they have the big bubble on it helps exp yes

[viscid sandal]

Yeah the specialized skill exp might be it... It's just wild that my DK's 60 levels lower

They still get exp while on Cogs right?

[north juniper]

Do you rely on red salts for the boost though?

[sick sentinel]

not as much

they dont get the board exp boosts while on cogs

so def put squire on the board

[golden gust]

Squires can make xogs go brrr though

[sick sentinel]

while true they were asking about their low sqwuire cons level

[viscid sandal]

Ah ok, yeah... also I know the build rates visibly change (due to squire talents) when you're playing ON a squire.

Does it still give the same build rates when you're not?

[bold quiver]

no

[sick sentinel]

nope, thats cause of the bubbles in the orange cauldron only being boosted while playing a warrior class

[viscid sandal]

Ah ok

[bold quiver]

till this day i dont understand how build rate is applied to on construction, so i just check with whoever i remember to, or a warrior class at least

when i log in everyday i always start with squire and check construction

[sick sentinel]

idk how it is for afk, if its based on who you last played/first opened the game on

or if its just the regualr account speed

without squire boosts

[bold quiver]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991866594470936578/1029825781779677194/tumblr_inline_nj7nvdEudn1sqodxg.gif

its too damn confusing

[sick sentinel]

it rly is

for a pretty straighforward skill there is so much jank about it

[viscid sandal]

What lvl are your squires?

[sick sentinel]

i posted up there but 524, 520

[viscid sandal]

Oh right, sorry haha. thanks

[sick sentinel]

no worries

thats their cons lvl unless you were meaning class lvl

[viscid sandal]

Mmk well that's good to know that the focus should be on +%xp vs. +%build rate

[sick sentinel]

yeah pretty much go all in on exp, but for what you dont have you can do build or flaggy for what you need

for booster cogs

[viscid sandal]

right on ty

[gentle furnace]

looking from non warrior?

[bold quiver]

ima try to get the last 2 ulti omni im missing =/

[stone gazelle]

Does every character get their own giant spawns per week if they use to prayer

[sick sentinel]

account shared

[stone gazelle]

I found a bug then my es was at 1 and 53 after I got it to like 1 in 8k on my dk

[sick sentinel]

did you weekly reset happen?

and is the still the same numbers on theose characters?

[safe harness]

just started divinity grind on all toons, does snake afk buff effect it? should i link all as snake until i get goat and drop em off in lab?

[barren summit]

nope,

its a flat rate, AFK% doesnt effect it

[sick sentinel]

trickz made a writeup in the pins for div stuff

[safe harness]

thanks

[vital tusk]

if the hunter sets up traps for people do they get his full effects for them?>

[safe harness]

yeah, same with maestro for xp

[sick sentinel]

yes the exp and efficiency will get snapshotted from whoever you are placing with at drone

[vital tusk]

ty

[pulsar cliff]

FINALLY.

[fervent brook]

what is best place to farm W5 statues/gold food?

[sick sentinel]

probably dk at ojs, but wurms if you can do it also gives keys and better exp

maybe wurms is just better but i havent tried ojs in a while

[placid mural]

anyone heard of liquid progress like CC without CC active?

[pulsar cliff]

Lmao the stats are so stupid.

[placid mural]

i cant get the trophy until i can get my Vman within reasonable range to kill Nightmare kattle

[pulsar cliff]

I did it around 70b

[sick sentinel]

did you get progress to liquids without cc or something?

[placid mural]

lawl yeah my Vman is only at like 16b

[placid mural]

yeah i was getting CC "esk" progress without CC active, and then it stopped when i pull up my action bar to confirm it was in fact on CD

[bleak gazelle]

"-esque"

[placid mural]

nah

esk like a pro

😉

[sick sentinel]

maybe it was the backend of cc? image in top right maybe was hidden or something

[bleak gazelle]

eskimo?

[placid mural]

nailed it

nah last time i used it was this morning, and it was still on CD from that, had 16k seconds left on CD

[sick sentinel]

could be some weird ui thing

[placid mural]

shrug

[placid mural]

to be honest i immediately slapped my forehead when you said "esque" because my brain has the big dumb for sleepinging on a hospital couch for the last 2 weeks. . . . big dumb lol

[bleak gazelle]

we're all big dumb sometimes

[sick sentinel]

yooo

[placid mural]

no get 100 for the next level of vial

[sick sentinel]

[placid mural]

anyone placing bets on an update this weekend?>

[wanton gazelle]

Tomorrow If at all I'd say

[elder shuttle]

for the god that gives random afk gains for cooking etc, if i claim at like 15 minutes the popup is 1hr, but is it actually 1hr? or is it 15 minutes

[wanton gazelle]

15 minutes

[placid mural]

i think actual is 15 minutes

[elder shuttle]

dang

[wanton gazelle]

I tested it a while back

[placid mural]

but for display simplicity it just rounds it to next hour

[elder shuttle]

ive been here claiming afk gains every 3 minutes like a madman

[placid mural]

lawl

[wanton gazelle]

🤣

[placid mural]

absolute legend over here

what a stud

[elder shuttle]

efficiency

[heavy moth]

this cant be serious

and it gets worst

[fervent brook]

Got cooking to 50 thanks to doot divinity pearls.

[sick sentinel]

[runic token]

Wow, came home after leaving DK at nightmare kattlekruk and I got the cape! Can't believe it 🥹

[vagrant thicket]

Any Dr calculator tool exists?

[visual lava]

Sus wording, might reconsider that

[runic token]

I don't understand?

[north juniper]

Nice! Did you do that on BB?

[runic token]

It takes like 15 minutes to kill him

[north juniper]

I thought about balloons and then finishing with pearls.

[visual lava]

Machines that do things for you are a mutable/bannable offence to speak about

[fervent brook]

Got it on everyone since I have like 700+ Pearls due to doot having humming bird on permanently.

[sick sentinel]

bro he left it on auto

[visual lava]

Ah then it's 👌

[runic token]

well not what I did, so I'm good, thanks anyways

[sick sentinel]

i can see what you mean tho

[visual lava]

I just wanted to make sure. I got a 24h mute for it once

Just by mentioning

[north juniper]

Nice. All my levels are 1-10 so I'm not sure if I should stick them in there 1 at a time for now.

[sick sentinel]

caught a mod on a bad day huh

[north juniper]

BB is still chowing and zowing

[visual lava]

Ah so everyday?

[sick sentinel]

too real

[fervent brook]

Save balloons and use Skilling pearls when you get close to skill cap on those pearls.

[vernal depot]

yo guys, i've just realized that upgrading the DK's orb to max makes 2 of them overlap, and when the first despawns it also zeroes out the counter on the second orb.

am i losing efficiency in active farming this way? should i check that my orb talent's level doesn't make the orb duration surpass a certain point?

[sick sentinel]

yes dont go over 267 in orb talent lvl

[north juniper]

Skill cap ~30-40?

[fervent brook]

Did not know this. Thanks for the heads up.

[runic token]

Dang got too excited, thought you just needed the cape for the last quest to get the trophy

[vagrant thicket]

.

[sick sentinel]

sadly its like the ghost quest for w2 keys

[fervent brook]

Black pearl can only level up skills up to level 30 and Divinity up to level 50

[sick sentinel]

woulda been too op tho since you would only need 1 cape for 10 trophies

[vagrant thicket]

What stats?

[prisma drift]

Anyone know the damage to hit rift 41 for construction mastery?

[north juniper]

Saw my last lava skull, went to kill it, didn't register 😞

[prisma drift]

I’m lazy and don’t wanna start it if I can’t finish it lol

[runic token]

58000M

what is that? 5.8B?

[vagrant thicket]

No the cape

[prisma drift]

58b

1000m is 1b

[runic token]

oh they drop at different stats? one sec

[north juniper]

Yeah I'm out of black pearls so I've just been hoarding my divs. VMan is already up there ~60-70 on all skills except cooking 🥲

[sick sentinel]

#1094256172296577125 message

dunno if thats what ur asking for

there is also a guarenteed drop calc in that channel

[vagrant thicket]

I don't think but I want to know what it gives

[fervent brook]

Cooking is the worst. I only use ballons/pearls on it. Fishing is terrible too buy you can use candy at least.

[vagrant thicket]

Thx

[vagrant thicket]

For some odd reason I can't open it

[runic token]

I don't think I'm gonna be able to complete nightmare on vman sadly

[sick sentinel]

the link or the doc in the link?

[vagrant thicket]

I click the link and does nothing

[vagrant thicket]

Well how much hp does nightmare have?

[runic token]

1Q

[viscid sandal]

Is there an 'end-game' sampling chart somewhere?

[vagrant thicket]

Welp not touching him too soon then

[sick sentinel]

if i did it right

shit might have done it wrong

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VTdwexph4eFRUYX8WrjIoi74U0eraGyeYkF7IRUXNjM/edit?usp=sharing

[modest warren]

what kinda dr should i have to start greenstacking

[vagrant thicket]

Thx it works now

[sick sentinel]

#1084953188647583819 message
like this?

[vagrant thicket]

I can't modify the values but it's ok

[cosmic tendon]

Dr for greenstacking?

[sick sentinel]

you should be able to make a copy then change things

[vagrant thicket]

Oh ok

[viscid sandal]

I saw that ty, I guess I was looking for something a little more fleshed out (i.e. which cards if you have 'all x skilling cards are passive', etc.)

[cosmic tendon]

Someone sent me their card snapshot earlier see here

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Credit to nitiz/nyang

[sick sentinel]

i was about to send mine but its the same as that ^

[cosmic tendon]

They made a relevant comment right after posting too

[north juniper]

Rift lava skulls are just random aside from platform between the top and bottom right?

[cosmic tendon]

Wdym platform between top and bottom?

I found it easiest on SB and bubo

Bubo farm some skulls on auto. Remove poison if that causes u to clear map. Turn off auto, respawn whole map then kill skulls 1 at a time

[north juniper]

It says that they split between the platforms. I interpreted that as if you're on the top half of the platforms then it could spawn at the bottom instead.

Aaah

That's a good point. I have 1/2 on SB right now

I was thinking of throwing my ES at it but Bubo would do a good job

[cosmic tendon]

The rift skull has a 50% chance to upgrade and transfer when you kill it

But that didn’t seem to be the case when only a couple mobs were alive, it was much lower low odds

I may be spitting bs here but I feel like it works like it would have transferred to an assigned mob, but if that mob isn’t alive and it rolls a transfer nothing happens

[zinc torrent]

Do you stop getting skill points every level at some point? Like talent points I mean.

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t think so?

[cosmic tendon]

It’s less for further tab and might change frequency at higher levels

[zinc torrent]

okay awesome! I'm almost level 300 on my main guy and wasn't sure if I still got points is all. Ty guys!

[runic token]

nightmare kattlekruk seems super hard on bb, any tips? my damage is 98B, but his ad clear is pretty bad

[bold quiver]

yes, swap his target between hitting moles and boss

[runic token]

idk seems impossible, not gaining any traction

[dense eagle]

Poison and aura doesnt just clear all mobs ?

[runic token]

not bubo

blood berserker

[dense eagle]

Ohh, well i played aroubd the fire that kills all map

Like how you do with vman

Attak boss only after that spell, otherwise just clear mobs

[cosmic tendon]

If I’m farming on es with 200m dmg should I get the same number of black lenses per hr as I get nugget cake?

[undone steeple]

uhhhh is there any other way other than just stacking DR and active ES purgatory in order to drop this recipe

8.2x rarity 3 nights in a row activing this with no drop

[runic token]

i give up, is there any cd reduction stuff?

[cosmic tendon]

At suggma?

[cosmic tendon]

Mana po?

[runic token]

shows how long I haven't used those for

thats mana regen

i need cd reduction

[cosmic tendon]

I’d what % it is at max

[undone steeple]

mana post office has 10% cdr at max

[cosmic tendon]

Third box, bottom buff is cdr

Idk also how many seconds minimum a talents cd needs to be for 10% to shave a second

Like if a 5 second cd would reduce to 4 idk. bb’s 60s should reduce to 54 though I’d imagine

[stiff prairie]

Well. 10% of 10s is 1. So anything above a 10s cooldown would lose at least second

[runic token]

looks like thats the only cd reduction there is, darn

guess I'll just wait until damage goes up

[cosmic tendon]

Maybe move speed? Otherwise yea it’s dmg

[runic token]

mmmm movespeed might help ill try that

[worthy mortar]

???

[north juniper]

For shiny snitch does it snapshot to the trapping drone? Or do I just need to make it a thing to collect with someone who has it on?

!trapchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[untold arch]

it adds total number of kills together instead of actually checking each one individually

[fervent brook]

What Divinity Level do you get a majority of the max minor link bonus?

[stark urchin]

Just go as high as you can

You can use a style which doesn't require you to go on the altar

[bold quiver]

soon

takes to long to lvl any class that isnt a divine knight or bubo '.'

[dreamy merlin]

I got rabbit with 50% chance

[bold quiver]

its not a rabbit its a hare

https://tenor.com/view/anime-couple-gif-21797661

[dreamy merlin]

same thing to me

[bold quiver]

now u know tho

[dreamy merlin]

i did,but just wanted to say rabbit

its name is literally harriep lol

[bold quiver]

yeah, harriep from hare

but some people think rabbit and hare are the same animal, poor souls

u wouldnt want to mess with a hare!!! but u can mess with a rabbit

[slow lantern]

Anyone know why doesn't my atom collider produce a particle even tho I have 15m of a resource?

[north juniper]

!catchchart

[green eagle]

ayyy new highest nuggy

[sharp gust]

in the atom collider what is your atom threshold set to?

[slow lantern]

15 million.

The lowest possible setting.

[sharp gust]

get 10m after thjamt

[slow lantern]

So I need 25 million of a resource?

[sharp gust]

yes to keep 15m max and get 10m for 1 particle

[slow lantern]

Bruuuh.

Well, looks like I won't be bothering with that for a while.

[sharp gust]

probably best to just wait on particles until you get high oak and coppre pritns

yeah

[slow lantern]

I have a decent oak print.

Though I don't have harriep so no 6x prints.

[sharp gust]

i think 10m+ print with harriep is the earliest i would recommend looking at atoms

[slow lantern]

Think I'll focus my efforts on alchemy instead, since that is atm more achievable with current resources im working with.

[sharp gust]

also setting collider max beyond 15m is good so you can greenstack + some for rare mats and only turn oak and copper to particles

[slow lantern]

I mean I'd just try and get the first atom and forget about it until I had the ability to get more materials to burn.

[steel dagger]

Is there any efficency for the Golden Hampter? Does 1 Hour AFK time has the same value than 5 or 10 Hours? Or is it really only "claiming AFK time", like in any amount?

[sharp gust]

you will see once the effect triggers, but it is 1:1, so whatever you claim afk time wise on a char with gold hamp will get just that much time in sailing

[steel dagger]

Ahh yeah, that makes sense then, tysm

[slow lantern]

Is 100 levels on each alchemy bubble decent?

[frozen prairie]

does anyone have the chopping sample chart?

[slow lantern]

Because I wanna do that before I start putting effort into W4/W5.

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/bb6b2d12f6122181d558932cba8f2026.png

who should I be looking to replace?

[thin vortex]

Does ie have a way to check my theoretical max samples? I don't really wanna resample and lose my 2x bonus from artifacts to only gain 100k more an hour

[slow lantern]

How can one get checkouts faster.

[thin vortex]

Sad. Guess I'll have to live with it for now

[slow lantern]

Like 40-50 in a reasonable amount of time.

[echo crag]

rank up library building

[slow lantern]

Should getting it to 50 be enough.

[frozen prairie]

do you use fibres active?

[slow lantern]

Me?

[viral snow]

You dont wanna keep too many books
Thats also quite some boost
Cooking and construction also boosts checkout

and some achievements aswell

[slow lantern]

I try not to clog them up, but the main issue is the low level im getting.

[viral snow]

so youre trying to increase your book level not check out speed ?

[fallow pawn]

any tip for farming molten knuckle recipe? es active or park someone there?

[slow lantern]

Kinda aiming for both but the speed takes priority.

[viral snow]

Speed like I said before
book level you can check in the wiki
biggest boost comes from artifacts

[slow lantern]

And also I need to figure out how construction works because 35.5k br per hour just isn't cutting it.

[echo crag]

construction build rate come from a high construction lvl squire and good construction bubble

[slow lantern]

Mine is 200, the squire I mean.

And my bubble is at 50.

[solid mason]

a question about frost relic, does it mean for W1 W2 W3 skills or just while in those worlds? mostly curious if it'd boost gathering fairies and whatnot as those are from a W2 skill but the actual harvesting node is in W4

[slow lantern]

But I still feel like 35k per hour is abismally low.

[echo crag]

whtas the construction lvl of your squire ?

[echo crag]

hes on the board ?

[lapis mesa]

yeah you got something funky going on.. im like 3/4 your con level and twice your build speed

[slow lantern]

I have 1.72k% exp so the exp is flowing nicely.

He is on the board yes.

Lemme take a ss.

If my PC allows me to do so today.

[lavish cloak]

Needs moar beef

[slow lantern]

Here it is.

[slow lantern]

Looks amazing, wish I had a quarter of that br.

Would probably help me max most lower tier things.

[lavish cloak]

once you get bob to 500 and unlock 1-3 of the golden trimmed slots, you've got all the ingredients. the hard part is putting your squires + 1 on ulti cogs and clicking cogs until you have all exp on everything. if you're still unlocking flags you're playing a different game than me

[slow lantern]

I am just incompetent to figure out how construction works, I just remember someone telling me that exp cogs are the way to go and I've stuck to that.

And with this flaggy rate I'll probably take a billion years to open up all the cog slots.

[lapis mesa]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/ im going to recommend this

[viscid sandal]

Can anyone help me understand sampling for fishing?
For some reason, my Area 3 fish (kraken, manta rays, sharks, skeleton fish, etc.) samplings are now half of what I was getting. BUT every other fish has gone up...
Only thing I did was level up fishing with a few candies, and improved from Platinum to Void fishing rod.

Anyone have any clue? Don't think my fishing efficiency went down, since i'm getting bigger samples for the other fish

[elder shuttle]

sooo theres no other way of getting choco chip other than diamond gambling until dec 27? YIKES

[slow lantern]

How does this work?

[lapis mesa]

it organizes cogs for you. Youll need the JSON data from a tool like IE though

[slow lantern]

Huh.

[lapis mesa]

Do you use IE? Idleon Efficiency?

[slow lantern]

This is safe to use right.

Yes I have IE.

[lapis mesa]

i hope so.. ive been doing so

[lavish cloak]

it's safe.

[lapis mesa]

So under raw data you have a JSON option

[lavish cloak]

it's very rudimentary, but until you have an excellent grasp on construction and cogs in general, it's an extremely good starting spot

[slow lantern]

I already see that I'll have to purge my cog table.

[muted bramble]

I'm just so confused

[lapis mesa]

oh hey.. you can just do first name.. that works to.. hmm

[barren otter]

even at 4.25k xp bonus i still use that...

too lazy to do it on my own at this point

[muted bramble]

like in gaming, i just reached green numbers and i just.... dont know wtf im supposed to pour into

[barren otter]

that only works if youve recently uploaded your profile to public

[lapis mesa]

just noticed 😄 ... loaded one and its borked to all get out

[slow lantern]

For some reason it doesn't work.

Ig I could upload my profile rq and try again.

Cba to copy JSON data.

[barren otter]

it copies to your clipboard

just paste it into the box on cogtimizer

and hit load

[lapis mesa]

Yeah its a one click copy and one click paste on cogs box

[lean thistle]

how long should I use focus worship style?

I got 4th god rn

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-diane-pemberley-the-outlaws-all-of-it-every-single-thing-gif-25275045

[muted bramble]

thats.... probably right

[lavish cloak]

you don't see a lot of the immediate benefits, so you can mostly just keep kranking the base up.

[muted bramble]

but like is there thing i can just neglect

like the card game or squirrel

[slow lantern]

Username ain't working so JSON it is.

[fringe stratus]

Anyone else have their daily reset time change? Mine is now 6 hours later than normal.

[lavish cloak]

this gets worse the more you level it, so its benefits are highest at low levels.

always upgrade shovel

[muted bramble]

what lvl you think i should stop lvling it

[lapis mesa]

also that settings tab next to Solve, you can set what you want it to go for.. like mostly build or mostly xp

[lavish cloak]

when you need more than a day to level it up

this can largely be held back

[slow lantern]

Just clicked solve and it added another 10k to the total br.

Which is nice,

Though I wanted greater numbers.

Ig this temporary improvement will do.

[lavish cloak]

you can leave that like it is. just upgrade it when its cheap

[lavish cloak]

you not having good cogs is a temporary problem. you not having all open slots is a temporary problem. bandaids until you can build your house properly.

[sterile sundial]

How many Level 13 vials to get 100% double points from Skinny 0 cal?

[lavish cloak]

2 more than me, so...28

[sterile sundial]

Thanks

[frozen prairie]

any ideas on what the invisible ones are + chizoar cavern?

[lavish cloak]

there's the nutto at the base of the tree in the tower defense map

also rift mobs

[slow lantern]

Well god damn it I screwed up and now I have to rearrange them again.

[lavish cloak]

that is cog life

[slow lantern]

No wonder with like 61 steps.

Tf, now it's recommending me I put a player I never put into construction in the table.

[lavish cloak]

keep an eye on what changed so you can make your own micro-improvements later.

and don't judge until you're on the last last step.

a lot of times it tells me to put cogs that won't stay on the board on the board just to get the change-out's right

[slow lantern]

Good point, I argue that the moves it makes are stupid yet I am the one with 0 understanding in the matter.

Guess I'll listen to it.

[lavish cloak]

the more you click and see what its goals are, the more you'll understand what to do later yourself.

one point are player xp boost cogs

these are the most valuable things on the board to you after you've unlocked flaggy, yet the cogtomizer devalues it like it's nothingsowwy

[slow lantern]

Okay, my br has surpassed 40k.

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-freezing-cold-shivering-glace-gif-21284664

[slow lantern]

Which means it is getting better.

Maybe focusing on flaggy rate wouldn't be a horrible idea as I am focusing on other, neglected aspects of my account.

And coming back to far more slots to play with,

[lavish cloak]

when you're in the flaggy unlock state, you need everything everywhere all at once

exp, build rate, flaggy rate, give it all

so just take anything that gives clear improvements from what you have

[slow lantern]

Makes sense.

[lavish cloak]

when you get to my state, you ONLY care about exp

who gives a flip about that cog's build rate of 45k when you've got dk's churning out numbers like this

[noble mesa]

Hi u all
What is the last atom collider upgread?

[sick sentinel]

%dmg or something, its bad

[noble mesa]

Tnx

[slow lantern]

46k br.

Considering the current state of my cogs, this is an improvement of 27%.

Literally had a cog that boosted nothing, I am an moron,

[noble mesa]

Is thete a cog?

[slow lantern]

That's a character.

[lavish cloak]

nope. that's my divine knight

[noble mesa]

Hooo

K

Of it was it was pretty noice

[lavish cloak]

exp over time yields the greatest gains

if there were cogs that good we'd finish construction and pancake would leave the game

[thin rose]

how does this work with giant mobs

or it just doesnt at all

[slow lantern]

Think that it does work.

[pallid dune]

is there another way for this to trigger? does a talent or something do something similar or can you only get this to trigger with the god?

[slow lantern]

Construction is literally a branch of science.

[lavish cloak]

it does work, it activates the giant spawn. it's just a horrible bonus and using prayers is always better than going for that bonus.

[lavish cloak]

link to the god or buy doot.

[dense crater]

post office boxes for sailing and gaming or golden gummy for sailing

[lavish cloak]

the closest things are the p.o. boxes and golden hampters that give you sailing afk gains and gaming garden gains

[thin rose]

so it's not good in ant circumstances

[placid mural]

there is also the golden hampter, and the sailing gaming bubbles, and passive gains from PO boxes

[lavish cloak]

it is potentially good for hunters going for shiny drop chance. that's the only circumstance it's 100% beneficial.

[placid mural]

i once had 2 sailing procs, a gaming proc, and 3d printer proc from one character

[pallid dune]

i recently had cooking progress trigger with afk gains so that's why i'm asking. for reference i got doot last night and only just got into w5 this morning. i don't have any gods unlocked yet but i do have one char level 2 divinity

[lavish cloak]

you have doot, therefore you are linked to omniphau on all your characters, regardless of whether you have reached that divinity level or even unlocked w5. congratulations, you have endless benefits.

i spent $155 to not have doot. given time, you will devour me in progress.

[slow lantern]

63k br with squire active.

Which is impressive.

[lavish cloak]

that's more than 27%

[thin rose]

Hmm I see

[slow lantern]

I hadn't logged on squire so I didn't take his boost into account.

[thin rose]

I haven't gotten many prayers so I don't know it's complete benefits so I came in here to ask

I should really do my worship more

[slow lantern]

Which means I've basically doubled my br.

[thin rose]

Pretty sure the only 2 prays I've ever used is the skill efficiency one and giant mobs

[lavish cloak]

worship is a branch of construction. your number of prayers unlocked is a timegated progression mechanic. i wish you luck.

[thin rose]

Yeah...

I haven't even started half of my towers

Most are lvl 1 except for boulder and freeze

Pretty much all I've used so far since they work

[lavish cloak]

boulder, freeze, and party will take you far.

[thin rose]

Yeah that's pretty much what I use

[slow lantern]

Use hunter aswell.

[thin rose]

Heard poisonic is really good

For the talent?

[slow lantern]

Yes.

[thin rose]

I normally use my ES since I'm leeching my worship off everyone and efficiency

[pallid dune]

took me $130

[slow lantern]

You could just push waves then just abuse the efficiency on the totem in W3.

[lavish cloak]

i would recommend taking a long route and spending charge on each of your characters so they all can wear bigger skulls and can all generate more charge and all contribute to skill mastery when you get that successful at rifts.

[lavish cloak]

i'm taking the emotional blows one at a time. i'll probably spend another 45 next week.

[thin rose]

Haven't started rift yet I don't even think I'm strong enough tbh

[lavish cloak]

given time and attention, you will.

[thin rose]

My base damage is only 25-30mil

[pallid dune]

okay so do i have my char in lab to get lab exp? or do they not have to be in lab anymore?

[thin rose]

What does rift actually do? I haven't looked into it at all

[placid mural]

i had only just started W5 maybe a month before Rift came out, and i am now at rift 50, you will get there

[thin rose]

I've just been working on my div and gaming recently, also getting my dk kills so I can get my vman

[lavish cloak]

your characters need to be in lab to acquire exp, if they're not in lab, they are simply present to connect to nodes. the same goes for divinity exp, only actually sitting in lab generates divinity exp outside of tranqi stance

[bleak gazelle]

makes you cry then gives you some pretty poggers bonuses

[thin rose]

Oh it does?

[slow lantern]

Jesus Christ, I put some talent points into the squire talent, the one with red salts and pow of 10 and now my br is 112k lmfao.

[thin rose]

I've been trying to get vman, cause I heard it's talents are pretty beneficial to my other characters

[lavish cloak]

a bunch of bonuses depending on how far you can progress. here's the first bonus.

[thin rose]

That's kinda huge

[lavish cloak]

PROGRESS

[lavish cloak]

the first of 9 so far.

[thin rose]

But XP to whoever places kinda sucks

[slow lantern]

Literally exponential progress.

And I haven't even maxed the talent.

[thin rose]

I'm also like talent capped rn which sucks

[lavish cloak]

i didn't actually realize that last part. no wonder my dudes are all still sitting at 60. i should manually claim a few times

[slow lantern]

This also works when the squire is not active, correct?

[fallow aurora]

is there a way to tell if the "dirty shovel" is ready in gaming?

[lavish cloak]

it recalculates with whomever is online at the time. being online with the dk's gives you the most.

[thin rose]

Yeah that's why I just eagle eye everything

[lavish cloak]

nah. you just click on it and hope.

[fallow aurora]

ty

[pallid dune]

what would cause doot to only be "unlocked" on one character??

[lavish cloak]

same with squirrel, with less progress ruining effects, since you need to not click it for a full hour for it to produce a nugget

[slow lantern]

Yes. that's what I was interested in as I am not an active player, so I hope to retain atleast some of the buffed br.

[lavish cloak]

doot cannot be spaded by the dootless. you should investigate.

[zealous niche]

It’s worded bad

Exp goes to whoever the trap belongs to. So I can place the trap with my hunter for my bubo getting good critter gains from hunter, but when it’s collected the bubo gets the exp

[lavish cloak]

the buff exists. it exists passively no matter who you are logged in as. other factors mean that an elemental sorceror makes your construction generate less build rate than your divine knight.

[thin rose]

Ah I see, lava wording.exe

[lavish cloak]

thank god.

[zealous niche]

If you want exp, go place nature traps with vman and the exp skill active on everybody

[slow lantern]

Great.

Now what is capping me are frogs.

Gotta get more froggies.

[lavish cloak]

i did the worst of 2 worlds by placing a single meaty trap on blobs for each character from maestro, then the rest from hunter on royal..

[thin rose]

Need to get my vman first, just gotta get my death note kills atm

[slow lantern]

Just logged on bubo, the br is 75k when squire is offline.

Still, I am beyond satisfied with the current amount of progress.

[fallen jacinth]

exp is the green trap right ?

and it must be vman placing those exp trap or something

[bold quiver]

im never trying to 1B another trapping vial ever again '.'

its so bad

[thin rose]

I can't wait to get vman

It's talents look pretty nuts

[loud scroll]

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[obtuse orbit]

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[lavish cloak]

Its an eventuality since they are basically automated at this point

[lavish cloak]

I can assure you, they are indeed nuts

[bold quiver]

how

dont i have to log in the game to activate vacuum from rift?

[thin rose]

Can't wait honestly, idk if I should take my characters off div to grind the dk kills for vman tho, what you think?

My w1-3 kills are slacking honestly

[bold quiver]

vman doesnt rly help u in that way tho '.'

if your skills are bad, his boost will still be bad

the cooking speed is great tho since that is a standalone skill

[dawn moon]

Anyone have a recommendation for best class and minimum damage for a single nightmare kattlekruk kill? I just want the achievement and don't want to waste all of those keys if I can't do it

[bold quiver]

Elemental sorcerer, whatever damge u have

Just go into the fight, press auto and it will kil the boss eventualy

your skills will clear the moles all the time so it will never heal

DMG at least 1B, or 10B

[oak hemlock]

@bold quiver dude which stones u used for last equipment from boss? W5 shop stones or boss's stones?

[dawn moon]

my ES is around 6B currently

[bold quiver]

w5, boss stones suck

[lavish cloak]

you do. i just end up leaving my game on for a week at a time and restarting for poweroutages and updates, so that's not a problem for my specific usercase

[zealous niche]

Yes, it checks as soon as it can after daily reset, so whenever you’re logged in after that it activates

[bold quiver]

meh, if i have to log in the game its useless, thanks either way

[next locust]

Sarcasm?

[bold quiver]

facts

[lavish cloak]

i would definitely recommend tons of other vials before those for max candidates.

[bold quiver]

if i have to log in the game to activate the vacuum, i ts useless

[zealous niche]

You have to log in to have anything activate?

[next locust]

You have to be logged in

[bold quiver]

which one tho? thats teh first critter vial

[bold quiver]

yes it sucks

[zealous niche]

Like, nothing progresses entirely offline, it’s calculated as soon as you log in

???

[bold quiver]

yep

[lavish cloak]

like literally any other resource gained from any other mechanic. even worship souls are better than critters

[thin rose]

eh the extra 200 of each talent would be nice for wis, stren and agi

[zealous niche]

I am so confused as to why you think logging in is a negative

[bold quiver]

indeed that extra stats is nice

[bold quiver]

No like, i wondered if the vaccum worked with my game offline, Cuz if i have to log in i might as click do 1 click on eagle eye or drone '.'

[bold quiver]

im not following tho, what does those other mechanics have to do with the critters?

[lavish cloak]

for the truly idle, we should be able to leave the game for 4 months and come back and have 120 nblb and roughly 85 gilded stamps. i believe brave's hangup is that he has to do anything to make anything happen at all for it to be considered an "eventuality" rather than "a chore"

[zealous niche]

It’s just a small QoL, not revolutionary

[lavish cloak]

sorry, i'll reword:

I would rank the critter vials extremly low on the list of vials to actively strive to max.

[bold quiver]

its a good qol only for people that leave their game opens and leave haha

[bold quiver]

No but, what else would i use my traps for?

thats my point o.o

[lavish cloak]

i'm pretty sure you're past using them for anything else though

if you're looking at vials

[bold quiver]

maxed

not the dmg tho, the dmg im missing a few , its a bad upgraded not worth the trouble

[bold quiver]

yeah tehre is nothing else to do with critters

it just sucks that we get so little critters to max vials

[lavish cloak]

i was mostly treating your comment about "never maxing a vial of critters again" with helpful statements rooted in "yes, agreed, that does look like one of the worst slogs to perform. my heart aches for your struggle"

[bold quiver]

hahaahaha i feel u

[lavish cloak]

i am not close to your dillemas

[bold quiver]

hopefully there is a way to get more critters at later worlds

[lavish cloak]

well, the scaling talent on the voidwalker means every time talent maximums get increased theres a little from that.

[bold quiver]

im doing 10H claims, but i can only get 50M crabs pe claim

[lavish cloak]

so theoretically you're done in 8 days with a vial

[bold quiver]

it got better in the last few days, but i was at 25M

[bold quiver]

yeah cant wait to have it finished ;´)

most annoying thing is that i'd probably get 10x or more critter if i did 20min claims

[lavish cloak]

i'd be an uberchad and say "i'm not done until i print 1050m AFTER the vial is maxxed". i know, i did it with the fishes.

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkk dammmn what do u do when u have to use those for stamps tho?