lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[opaque sun]

So its just 4x tougher crystal which isnt much when you are mk-ing wurms

[stiff prairie]

Your base sample is 10-17.5?% of whatever you are trying to get.
Royal sampler adds to that %.

[bold quiver]

gotcha thanks

will book that talent then, for the extra exp/loot

[obsidian tulip]

what max wave is enough for good souls in worshipping?

[brittle dagger]

theres a few others I use like multikill and skill efficiency when needed, but what about things like

Bonus: +100% Dungeon Credits and Flurbos from Boosted Runs
Curse: Use 2x Dungeon Passes per run.

and

Bonus: +20% Drop Rate
Curse: +250% Max HP for all monsters

[stiff prairie]

So a lvl 11 royal samplier adds 30% to your sample size, so its 40-57.5%

[opaque sun]

Max flag plunder only becomes an issue like in rift where the mobs got way higher hp than wurms

[vapid wraith]

You can check sample rate in construction skill page btw

[brittle dagger]

I was just about to ask lol

[stiff prairie]

Nice to know.

[stiff geyser]

man this whole salt locking slowing things down a bit

[stiff prairie]

But yeah, royal samplier is good enough to not go for 1/5th of prayers bonus

[bold quiver]

yes never sample without royal sampler

[stiff prairie]

With the exception* of vman

[vapid wraith]

That's additive -exp, not multiplicative, right?

[vernal depot]

hey guys, what's a quick way to check the "super chow" progression? (talking about the "voidwalker upgraded talent", not talking about regular zow or chow, those are easy to check on IE)

[stiff prairie]

Because you care more for xp on vman, but the xp reduction is linear

[stiff prairie]

Yeah it is.

[opaque sun]

only niche use of 1/5 prayer is if you became mad and want to make the ultimate colo2 specialized dk

[bold quiver]

i think IE has a section for that also, or IT

[stiff geyser]

but my sample rates are approaching cap do i still royal sampler?

[crystal tulip]

I'm trying to use my DK to farm some rare drops, but the orb of remembrance isn't changing my drop rate despite getting 300+. What am I doing wrong?

[vapid wraith]

So it's basically nothing, nice.

[pulsar cliff]

Only way I know how to do it is by manually going through cards, sorry chief.

[vernal depot]

what's IT?

[bold quiver]

idleon toolbox

[vernal depot]

damn yikes

[stiff prairie]

But vman is the only one where royal samplier is debatable, because skill xp matters so much on vman

[opaque sun]

The orb applies a gimmie gimmie effect which isnt exactly dr

[brittle dagger]

what about Midas drop rate prayer but +275% monster hp

[pulsar cliff]

It isn't bad really, at least I did all my superchows as one after the next.

[stiff prairie]

The curse doesnt affect bosses

[opaque sun]

if you say have 400 orb kills, it makes each kill roll 4 times for drops

[bold quiver]

vman is good depending on what part of the game u are at. It might be worth sacrificing skill exp if u need too many monster materials and dont wanna waste time farming on other players
(like, im 1B vials with his samples now)

[brittle dagger]

I am trying to farm cards and rares, is it worth using?

[stiff prairie]

So against big bosses, its just the positives not the h3alth increase

[opaque sun]

You dont want HP in colo2

[stiff prairie]

Midas is always worth using against bosses

Because its free droprate

[crystal tulip]

Thanks. I've seen vids of DK with a drop rate of 12 or higher and somehow thought that was due to orb.😳

[opaque sun]

midas Hp makes the skill nodes last longer which kills the run

[brittle dagger]

oh so I use midas for bosses only?

[stiff prairie]

Yes.

[brittle dagger]

but what about if im trying to farm cards or yellow snowflakes for example

[vapid wraith]

Either way, DK orb strong af for colo and minibosses.

[stiff prairie]

ES

[brittle dagger]

it would still be good right? I dont think multikill affects those drops does it?

[opaque sun]

so that is why for a colo2 and colo2 only specialized DK, 1/5 prayer is the best way (ignoring other jobs that dk can do)

[stiff prairie]

ES without midas is best for front page drops

[vapid wraith]

^

[brittle dagger]

is there a guide for this, ive been trying to find one

i cant figure out how to effectively active farm for these drops

[crystal tulip]

Yeah, that's what I want to use it for, but got scared spending tickets when I didn't see the dr go up.

[stiff geyser]

lot of your prayers are subjective to the sitation many are worth the curse, but in some scenarios not so much.

[vapid wraith]

Wormhole very strong for cards, pop obols, anything on the first page.

[brittle dagger]

i am using ES yea

[stiff geyser]

overall the having them active effect is great for lazier people who dont do checklists when doing somethings special like sampling.

[opaque sun]

ES hates any sources of enemy HP. Thus midas penalty acts against you stronger on a ES than the dr gain

[brittle dagger]

right cuz the hp would affect wormhole scaling probably

[vapid wraith]

Orb drop bonus counts for the chests at the end as well (which drop boss keys) so it's worth making sure that you can get to the end before orb runs out

[stiff prairie]

No idea, but generally:

ES for front page drops (boosted by portals)
DK for bag drops (qeaker boost than es, but affects crystals which are bag focused)
Vman/mman is bosses because es and dk cant boost their dr there.
Bubo is best coins.
SB is best to stay in lab

[brittle dagger]

im writing this down lmfao

[opaque sun]

DK would use midas most of the time, except when doing colo 2 as enemy HP makes the skill nodes take much longer to despawn

[vapid wraith]

Answer for the first 2, Orb affects crystals, so best for pen farming or anything from crystals. Wormhole is only for the natural mob on the stage.

[opaque sun]

To be more specific, ES is for mob drops and DK for crystals

[burnt parcel]

what damage did you guys have on kill nightmare kattle on vman im curious what minimum damage would be

[opaque sun]

ES has the best dr scaling mechanic, but only applies to normal mobs. DK has an okay dr scaling mechanic, but applies to any mobs including crystals. SB has poor dr scaling mechanic that only applies to normal mobs

[stiff geyser]

I know 10 billion of plain smacking it isnt enough

[burnt parcel]

^ 10bil sheet damage yes?

[stiff geyser]

yes my bloodwarrior couldnt manage to overpower the heals

and BB has similar multihitting

[burnt parcel]

i didnt have issues with bb but im curious on vman what kind of damage req you need

[stiff geyser]

And BB has comparable add dealing as Vman

[pulsar cliff]

I had about 70, I've heard people doing around 30

[burnt parcel]

i didnt think vman would be that bad with coin toss swap side to side coin toss

[pulsar cliff]

Billion

[opaque sun]

50b max damage is like the requirement on vman to kill kattle which doing some micro to kill moles

200b damage to make the fight a brainless fight

[burnt parcel]

yea copy thanks for the tips ill try n lower the damage to 30 and see then

[stiff geyser]

coin toss tends to hit kattle causingi to get stuck and not hit moles

[opaque sun]

10b vman can still kill kattle, but expect to drain your sanity

[golden osprey]

these rings are always the best for skilling?

[pulsar cliff]

Wait what lowering your damage lol?

[burnt parcel]

yea i was trying to see the minimum it can be done with

[worthy shoal]

Rings, yes, the fish, only for kraken

[golden osprey]

tyvm

[opaque sun]

for other fishes use persephone, or better use divine scarf

[bold quiver]

i did with 120B , easy battle

[burnt parcel]

i am done already ^

[bold quiver]

u can actualy do the battle with any dmg u want, cuz moles get one shoted either way '.'

[burnt parcel]

just takes longer yea?

[bold quiver]

yea

the mechanic will still be the same, since the cooldowns are the same aha

[opaque sun]

all other non vman can basically kill moles with their aoe

[bold quiver]

i'l guess 10B dmg being a decent amount to battle with

[opaque sun]

Only vman needs micro managing if it cant out damage the heal

[burnt parcel]

10b and a long fight i bet yea brave?

[bold quiver]

yesss, probably 30 minutes? or close to 1h

[opaque sun]

And lots of going right and left

[stiff geyser]

the moles on nightmare just keep comming though and its hard to manage them with single target

[bold quiver]

but since he is the hardest i'd say its worth. U need to finish all 10 characters to craft scarf and trphy

[opaque sun]

Basically you punch both sides to buy time to use void radius, then you chip away at kattle when you used radius

[stiff geyser]

probably best to use some speed potions then

[steady token]

that 15% skill afk pendant isn't bis for kraken?

not considering new scarf

[opaque sun]

Kraken chance raises the ratio of getting kraken

Which basically translates to kraken afk gain

[bold quiver]

@burnt parcel im so close to using the trophy, the pain of leveling active

[vapid wraith]

What's the bubble after this? I still have a bubble unlock chance and this is the end according to IE

[opaque sun]

You can pre unlock future bubbles

[burnt parcel]

you need level 450?

[bold quiver]

yes

[untold saffron]

midas minded on or off for bubo tremor worms?

[bold quiver]

considering its buff, i'd say fair

[opaque sun]

if you can one shot, midas on

[untold saffron]

sick

[opaque sun]

if you can, bubo wants to use jaw breaker over midas tho

(Ideal is use both)

[steady token]

will the new scarf outperform this?

[opaque sun]

When doubled, +80 purple seems kind of still big

[heavy moth]

ill probably finish vial way before i get that necklace or cape

[opaque sun]

i do have scarf, but haven’t felt the need to reset printer just to compare the kraken sample rate

[steady token]

I trashed it long time ago. how about bloach? is 80 purple better than 30 afk gain?

[opaque sun]

bloach and kraken basically same thing

[steady token]

my bb is only lv380, not enough to wear scarf

[atomic nymph]

How long did it take you guys to kill nightmare? 💀

[heavy moth]

3 sec

[stiff geyser]

my ES took a good 30 minutes

[steady token]

does the candy drop from giant monster affected by drop rate?👀

[atomic nymph]

[heavy moth]

fr what class you meant i assumed ES from ss

[atomic nymph]

playing with bubo or what do you mean

[bold quiver]

10 seconds - with bubo

[atomic nymph]

[heavy moth]

i meant like ES it took 3 second its a 2 hit fight and with bubo took about 10 second i think

but vman was 20min

[bold quiver]

bubo si easy fight, cuz u poison and bam wait for destruction

[heavy moth]

and BM 30 cause my bm scks

[atomic nymph]

yea i think my dmg is to low kinda

[tight ridge]

best place to farm woodular circles with ES

sticks or shrooms?

[bold quiver]

brown mush

[heavy moth]

how much dmg you got

[vapid wraith]

shrooms cuz it's all from wormhole anyway

[copper mural]

So I definitely don't have the highest DPS but I at least crit 100 to 200 billion. Obviously making nightmare cattlekruk a long fight. Does anyone else notice that some of the moles just magically have invincibility and go through all of my poison clouds. Making the fight much longer than it should be?

[opaque sun]

ES doesnt care map/mob layout, so just go to mob with best drop rate

[bold quiver]

low dmg but thats enough to beat it

[heavy moth]

yea its not comparable for sure but its good dmg to beat it

[atomic nymph]

ye, dont rlly know whats pushing more dmg tbh, except spaming atoms but im not at that point yet where i get lots of those

[heavy moth]

funny its legit 2 more digit that i got but same number

[atomic nymph]

lmao

alchemy

[heavy moth]

yea tho my alch is kind of low and stamps too working on that atm

[golden gust]

At 1.5b damage es i should only do normal right?

[heavy moth]

https://pazuzeus.idleonefficiency.com if you want to check to compare

[atomic nymph]

yea i need to work on stamps aswell, hehe, im currently trying to get as much 10M stacks as possible before moving to the next thing

[bold quiver]

1B vials!

[copper mural]

Nice Marco...I need to work on that myself to

Then I need to work on those lava skulls

[atomic nymph]

oh man almost forgot about them xd

[atomic nymph]

https://marcoboi.idleonefficiency.com/ thats mine, not proud but i think im on a good way

[pliant sluice]

Can this double proc if over 100%?

[pliant warren]

Huh, nightmare Kattlekruck finally feels kind of hard to kill. Been a while since a boss took a while to kill.

[pliant sluice]

lame

[bold quiver]

your question doenst even make sense tho

[pliant warren]

Supercrit is a thing.

Kind of makes sense to be curious if there's a chance for double proc considering that.

[bold quiver]

it doesnt make sense. Super crit is a star talent, not a base mechanic

[heavy moth]

weird i cant open

[pliant sluice]

Cant laaaaarrry double proc if over 100%?

[bold quiver]

no, it cant

[heavy moth]

1 hit kill XD

[sick sentinel]

welll, it can +3

[lilac trail]

How many tiers per plant are their in gaming

[bold quiver]

7

[sick sentinel]

7 but only 6 are realistically attainable

even then 6 takes a long time

[bold quiver]

when u think that unlocking the 300M superbits is hard....... u just need to think about how hard would it be to actualy get a 7th evo

[atomic nymph]

yea me too almost

[heavy moth]

how's your artifact ?

[atomic nymph]

mostly gold but i dont have lamp, mask, and eye

first 4 or so are Eldritch

[heavy moth]

i know its rng but they really make a difference in dmg and rift 46 as well

[atomic nymph]

How do you get such high samples? I see you sample 230m logs but somehow your logs are 1026M and blue text, is there a wiki page ore somthing that explains on how this works? cause there aint something on yt

[bold quiver]

@sick sentinel what lvl is a "decent" GT bubble? i started leveling mine to make it easier reaching 450 on everyone

[visual lava]

IdleonToolbox is a good tool

[sick sentinel]

yes

[visual lava]

It shows all the multipliers to your printing sample

[heavy moth]

yea my sample is 230m but my print is 1026 with multiplier most are lab slave with harriep so X6 and add the 3% per day from skull and the DK add up bonus i think im at 19%

[bold quiver]

fair enougfh

[opaque sun]

10k GT seems like one of the first check point of GT

[sick sentinel]

just keep pumping it

[atomic nymph]

Thats acutally godtier, thanks for showing me that

[sick sentinel]

i stopped at 5k cause im a lazy boy

[sharp wind]

Noob question. What is GT?

[bold quiver]

pain

[atomic nymph]

Thanks, yea I wasnt even thinking about lab at all

[opaque sun]

Grind Time

[sharp wind]

Ah oke thanks

[visual lava]

Shows it very clearly

[pliant warren]

Ahh, suddenly the favour for Bubo makes a lot more sense.

[magic fjord]

Ugh, why have I never noticed those grind time mats before. lol

[opaque sun]

its the most spam mable bubble, and also scales rather linearly

[heavy moth]

yea + im lazy my golden skull is at 81 % atm which is only near half

[magic fjord]

Perfect for bubo fun

[heavy moth]

IT is better that IE for that i think he was on IE

[sick sentinel]

toolbox been popping off with all the cool tools its been adding

[bold quiver]

Right? up to 425 was very easy to get on my ES, even with a lvl 500ish GT, but 450 would be very hard if i dont lvl this

[atomic nymph]

Thanks, just seen it

[visual lava]

It used to be the only thing you could use liquids on back in W4

[opaque sun]

The lvl of grind time basically proves how much time you have invested in active bubo

[visual lava]

So a lot of older players have it at a rather high level

Ah

Good times

[bold quiver]

water sinkhole

[visual lava]

When bubo was the only viable active character

[opaque sun]

And even now its kind of good to bubo to GT

[visual lava]

True

[opaque sun]

Grind time is basically bubo’s “power of 10 kills to get bonus” in a way

[visual lava]

Also to actively click the 1st and bubbles

[pliant warren]

Yeah, I was just getting to W4 as the new classes were being brought out so I didn't have that long to properly appreciate Bubo over the other ones.

[gentle inlet]

How to stonks particles income if our sample size doesn't exceed the 100M ?

[pliant warren]

It's too bad Cranium doesn't boost Sigil time.

[opaque sun]

Just make samples better of course

[pliant warren]

You get there eventually. It just takes a very long time to flesh everything out enough.

[oak tartan]

Are there recommended things to buy from the gemshop in w5?

Sprinkler? Sparkle?

[zinc torrent]

How much xp is needed to get to level 150?

[fallow aurora]

is this worth getting?

[opaque sun]

better than no captain

[vapid wraith]

pretty bad, unless literally no captain

[opaque sun]

Likely to be replaced in a month or so

[neat nebula]

How to increase the number of times it can evolve? keep leveling?

[sick sentinel]

that is just chance to evolve, superbits allows you to go past t4 plants

[neat nebula]

Ohhhh, damn im far offf that

[sick sentinel]

t5-t7 are the plant evo purchases

[neat nebula]

Actually tbf 2B will probably only take me like a week of saving

[solid schooner]

anyone know what level is the softcap for plant evolution

[sick sentinel]

are you meaning the upgrade taht was posted above?

[undone steeple]

bruh 10 hrs active on purg skulls no recipe 😦

[sick sentinel]

20% seems to be tough to get over

[neat nebula]

Ok might be able to get that superbit alot quicker than i was expecting, unlocking chemical plant also gained me like an extra 10x from unlocked evos

[echo crag]

plant evo 5-7 get infinitly hard to proc

[neat nebula]

good thing we've got roxie

[narrow cloak]

if it says in gaming "plants can evolve 4 times" does that mean there's 4 different stages or 5?

[echo crag]

plat evo 5 is 20x harder, 6 is 250x harder and 7 is 5000x harder

[neat nebula]

Managed to get the first 5 of chemical in the first day i unlocked it so i musta got lucky

[tacit tulip]

Stage 4 is also noticeably harder than stage 3 early gaming, so it's probably each plant tier is slightly harder than the last normally

[echo crag]

pretty sure you are right, we just dont know how much harder

[neat nebula]

i didnt realise how good roxie was for that

[tall horizon]

Went to sleep, the new respawn sources are op as hell. You should be able to do it in sub 24hrs, sub 12 with doot I bet.

[west slate]

@pulsar cliff no. Had only gold food

[narrow cloak]

anyone know? i'm not sure if i'm supposed to wait for 5th evolution or if "evolves up to" includes the first one too so there's 4 total

[tacit tulip]

The 4th tier of plant is the highest you can get without upgrading

So 3 evolutions, total

[gentle furnace]

You need to unlock from super bit for 5/6/7 evo

[narrow cloak]

i upgraded the chance to evolve to lv15 and it says "Plants can evolve up to 4 times" as i understand i can reach the 5th evolution then?

[gentle furnace]

No

That is just evo chance per cycle

Not 5th evo

[gentle furnace]

^

[narrow cloak]

ah ok, i'm just confused about the wording

[echo crag]

wouldn be the first time lava wording is confusing

[narrow cloak]

it makes it seem that from first it can go up 4 times which would be 5

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, it's best to not trust what lava writes haha

[narrow cloak]

ok thanks, that's clear then it just means you can have 4 evolutions

[echo crag]

line width says hi XD

[narrow cloak]

and sprinkler only spawns new plants, it can't give evolutions?

[tiny laurel]

Someone just one shot the world 5 boss at 1000T health. Kinda crazy

[sick sentinel]

some people have nutty dmg

[tacit tulip]

I was joking when I said I'd be done with the vial first, but here I am, 987m suggma ashes and no recipe

[sick sentinel]

you'll get it at 999

[tacit tulip]

If only 😄

I have over 3k royal ashes, with have a 1k drop rate over the recipe.

Based on averages, most players will have dropped it 3 times by now

[sick sentinel]

got mine here rip

[tacit tulip]

Of course I'd be the statistical outlier on the rarest drop 😄

[worthy shoal]

5* card at least

[hollow wasp]

my lil bro so weak :< to less talent points i guess ^^

[pale slate]

Does Pirate Flag SB skill increase the number of plunderous mobs spawned as well ?

[tacit tulip]

I've had enough cards to 5* 1.5 times

[sick sentinel]

nope

1 point is enough

[worthy shoal]

Use w3 trophy instead

[sick sentinel]

max coins talent

[hollow wasp]

whats the name?

[pale slate]

ahh okay thank you, want to farm the achievement

[sick sentinel]

and if you have it make sure your vman has the enhancement

[pale slate]

still don't have vman

[sick sentinel]

i'd wait to farm it then

[worthy shoal]

Don"t know, it is an ice crown one

[hollow wasp]

dont have it

[pale slate]

hmmm should i farm with DK then? i already did 1m es kills

[worthy shoal]

You need to do w3 quest to get it, it gives % damage

[cosmic tendon]

Frost prince

[sick sentinel]

sure DK is good

[pale slate]

thank you

[cosmic tendon]

Basically need 60 black lense and the neutron ring

[sick sentinel]

you can do a little SB if you need to

[hollow wasp]

this

[sick sentinel]

just dont really need to go hard on it yet

[tacit tulip]

With all buffs SB will still take about 4 months for the achievement, DK will be much easier if that's your aim

[pale slate]

yep pretty much going down the list of achievements and want to fill these as well

[worthy shoal]

It is a little step to more damage than trailblazer

[cosmic tendon]

If u want to for fun but it’s not the most practical use of active time

[sick sentinel]

haha i havent even tried going for sb achieve, takes away from getting real progress elsewhere

[cosmic tendon]

If u wouldn’t have the dk farming anyways

[worthy shoal]

But yes, it will be much more useful to target green stack instead

[pale slate]

ye i know that i am butchering my progress but it has to be done

[hollow wasp]

my dmg giga bad

[cosmic tendon]

The dk one is first in the order

I’d afk that dude with food on suggma

[bold quiver]

record

[cosmic tendon]

Should hit 150 VERY quick

[heavy moth]

what level is 50%

[cosmic tendon]

And can have a decent build

[hollow wasp]

lvl 86

[jagged relic]

That new boss armor reduces my damage in a major way

[cosmic tendon]

See my comments above

[hollow wasp]

thats my dmg i can get rn

[bold quiver]

yeah, its supossed to be a situational set, not dmg set

i lost 3,9% dmg from wearing that vs magma

[hollow wasp]

wrogn tag huh? is bubo, not dk

[cosmic tendon]

Don’t know what ur talking about

[hollow wasp]

you pinged me "see my comments above"

[cosmic tendon]

Replied to another person and u separately

[pale slate]

and does these skills needs to be on active build to be in use ? or can i have it maxed on any build ?

[hollow wasp]

but im sure u didnt even talked to me huh

[jagged relic]

Oh lovely! So I have to make a second magma set???!

[cosmic tendon]

Ok we’ll I’m not if ur gonna be rude about it

[hollow wasp]

im not. im just confused. u talk about DK stuff, im playing bubo rn. so i think u got the wrong guy

[bold quiver]

Different functions so yeah. Magma is now the best set for max dmg, cash farming, sampling.
New set is best for drop rate and afk fighting ,
I lost 3,9% dmg from wearing that one, that is insignificant for my farming in most cases ( lost around 900 wisdom

[cosmic tendon]

As I said there were separate replies. I tagged that guy in my comments to them and then you commented and I replied.

[cosmic tendon]

I suggested dropping bubo afk at suggma with food. Will hit lvl 150 very quick

And can build out their talents

[hollow wasp]

you just said the "Frost Prince" trophy to me, or did u said anything else? just @ me when talking to me or reply to my messages, i lose whats going on ^^

[fallen hill]

damn nightma43 kruk takes longer to kill trhan i thought on my main

[hollow wasp]

oh, ye i missed that

my afk gains not toooo bad huh.

[sick sentinel]

safe to say we aint getting it

[hollow wasp]

i dont have this maxed

[cosmic tendon]

Fair enough sry about that. How many lvls is that per hr?

[hollow wasp]

2

[cosmic tendon]

Just check back in in 3 hrs and max it if u want

[worthy shoal]

Do you have the 10hours prayer, the exp bubble, the right card and star sign for exp active ?

[hollow wasp]

sec

[iron jolt]

i got the black diamond rhinestone just now through gem shop. But when I activate it in lab I don't nottice anything changing. I was looking at my charcter damage, time to cook meal recip, pet odds. They all stayed the same? IS this bugged? Do I need to log for it to work or something?

[sick sentinel]

cloudsaving never hurts

[bold quiver]

Hey, leveling skilling is a good boost to eff after a while i guess , :O, almost 10%

[iron jolt]

just logged to player screen and came back in and still no impact

[cosmic tendon]

do some easy optimization for afk and exp and keep checking to spend talent points and you’ll be at 150 in a day or two. Then they should be significantly more active ready. But bubo takes decent account progression to do well on w5 active

[gilded spoke]

New boss obol worth using over the others?

[hollow wasp]

best i can do

[sick sentinel]

for skilling def, otherwise prob not

total dmg is balls

afk fighting should be good

[gilded spoke]

So throw it on when taking samples otherwise leave it off?

[bold quiver]

or gmush

[gilded spoke]

True

[bold quiver]

i stil havent dropped a single obol :[

5 necklace 0 obol, it sucks

[gilded spoke]

Lameee... 0 necklace for me only 1 obol

spent 1k keys this morning

[stiff geyser]

only one obol here too

cheezits

[sick sentinel]

i still need that damn necklace too

have 6 obols lol

[bold quiver]

lol

[cosmic tendon]

If ur doing it make sure u have the guys quest. Also exp goes up big time as u move forward maps

[bold quiver]

new necklace is meta now for active bubbo! 5% stats

[sick sentinel]

im going for trophy first then my next will do just taht

[hollow wasp]

i accepted that quest, yep

[sharp wind]

Is it possible that giant mob spawn in rift?

[inland gyro]

how do you get that all the way to 100%?

[cosmic tendon]

They have 61k

Should be 17.8% base according to wiki idk how to buff it that high

[steep cipher]

ive had my bubo afk on suggmas for 340 hours now. the guaranteed drop calculator says i need 333 hrs for the recipe drop. really hoping this calculator is right

[tacit tulip]

It's probably only possible on warriors cause of the red bubble

[cosmic tendon]

Damn lol let us know

[odd stream]

should I get pet arena 200 asap or wait until I have more dmg to get a higher boost from the 1.4x?

[teal mist]

do you have 3 hours?

[odd stream]

I do, I got to round 190ish before

[steep cipher]

nope 😭

[heavy moth]

so whats the logical cap i can go for i just checked on wiki and level 2K is only 47 %

[cosmic tendon]

Is ur dr unchanged from when u calculated it

[steep cipher]

it went up actually

[tacit tulip]

something probably off in your calculations there

[cosmic tendon]

Efficacy of guaranteed drop calc has officially been called into question

[steep cipher]

if i plug in my current multikill and dr, the 2x drop time is 285 hours

[cosmic tendon]

Are u sure ur getting base kills right?

[north juniper]

Great news peeps. I got lucky lad to drop!

[sharp wind]

Can giant mobs spawn in rift?

[north juniper]

But that was before my computer froze up during my overnight active afk so I never got it 🙂

[teal mist]

the damage is nice

[cosmic tendon]

Unlucky lad

[north juniper]

Unlucky indeed

[tacit tulip]

Assuming 10DR you'd need 10m kills before multikill/KPK to guarantee the drop, and in that time you'd expect to get 2000 royal suggma urns

You got 55, which suggests somethnig is off

[steep cipher]

i had the drop odds wrong lol. i thought it was 1 in 2.5m, not 1 in 50m. 50m just breaks the calculator lmao. at 5m it would be atleast 500hrs

well, not bothering with this again

[north juniper]

Is this about the molten knuckles?

[steep cipher]

yea

[north juniper]

Aah

[steep cipher]

my dr is only 5.7

[north juniper]

That recipe dropped when I first fought sugmmas. Had no idea the pain it caused people.

[tacit tulip]

doing qwik maffs you need to afk about 37 times longer to guarantee the drop, or about 509 days

[hollow ledge]

i remember someone got 2 individual recipe drops within one time frame because he didnt claim the first one

[sick sentinel]

idk im just going to keep hourly clicking when i can

[neat schooner]

how much vman dmg do you need for nightmare kattle

[kind mulch]

Who already reach 500 lvl? What's your Grind Time bubble lvl?

[heavy moth]

true i might resample only when ill hit 1K if i got doot than

[tacit tulip]

10b if you're a super gamer
50b to do it in a reasonable time
200b to do it in your sleep

[vapid wraith]

Same, don't even have anvil V and got it by chance a few weeks ago just starting w5

[tacit tulip]

yeah would be a shame if it didn't drop huh

[cosmic tendon]

It was probably about to drop right before u stopped though

[tacit tulip]

Ah that might be why, I haven't stopped

[coarse crescent]

Has anyone looked at, "the slab" and noticed that a lot of items they have made in the past don't show up? Such as quest rewards, or items?
I went through it and have had to remake/figure out how to get them to show up in, "the slab" what I found was that I had to re make them and put them in my storage chest.

Im about to see if I take them out and log onto characters that, "didnt" have access to them still have it marked in the slab.

[tacit tulip]

About to ruin your day: picking stuff up off the floor registers in slab

[cosmic tendon]

Maybe ur about to free pull doot with that luck transfer

In patch notes a few weeks ago lava said he changed that and added ur retroactive pickups for one time access items but Pete the peanut is still missing for me

[paper sail]

Took me about 20 minutes with 47b damage

[merry lion]

1. how to get vman to that dmg?
2. how do you manage to kill adds that heal, or did you just out damage them by a little?

[tacit tulip]

At 50b damage you gotta kill the adds still

Whip/coin/aoe mostly

[neat nebula]

wish me luck

[green eagle]

rift 46

[coarse crescent]

Im think I have a bug then...

[tacit tulip]

Nah, you're understanding it right. Quest items and a lot of other things get added to your inventory directly, which doesn't add them to the slab

[paper sail]

The strategy was literally to only focus on the moles until the Void Radius AOE ability was up. Once that was ready, let the moles get close to the boss, pop it, punch the boss maybe 4-6 times, then back to moles. Repeat.

[tacit tulip]

You have to drop the item and pick it up again to add it to slab

[pastel bramble]

anyone else got a bug with vman where ur kills per hour dont actually give u that many? i get roughly half my kills per hour shown in afk tab for some reason (i have 100% survive)

[vapid wraith]

If you really really want something to slab register, drop it on the ground, pick it up, go straight to cloudsave button. Works every time, updates instantly on IE

[merry lion]

thanks, still got a long way to reach high dmg on him tho lol

[thin rose]

is this with snake?

[paper sail]

Yup. Their damage scaling is super slow. I have level ~1100 yellow1 bubble for LUK and it feels like it barely does anything

[hollow wasp]

bear

[coarse crescent]

Okay thank you

[thin rose]

why not snake if you want higher afk gains

[hollow wasp]

problems is i dont get the shrines bonus then as im not so far in lab

[fathom lagoon]

Suggma

[hollow wasp]

no.

can i link to different divinitys all the time? i somewhere read you can unlink 2 times a week or so

[coarse crescent]

@tacit tulip @vapid wraith thank you

[narrow cloak]

yeah you have 2 unlinks per week and you can choose which characters to unlink for each unlink

[hollow wasp]

so every char has 2 unlinks?

[narrow cloak]

no

you have 2 unlinks and with one unlink you can unlink many characters at once

[hollow wasp]

is shared between all

ohh ok i see

[narrow cloak]

it also refreshes back to 2 when you find a new god

[paper sail]

+4 Weapon Power, +2 WIS. Thanks Kruk 👍

[fading cape]

So, just got back from a long vaca. I see we have new boss and new boss EQ. However, doesn't really look like the new boss EQ is as effective as the molten?

[green eagle]

some new boss equipment is fantastic

[next field]

helm and boots amazing

[green eagle]

so is just kinda eh and should be built for slab

[misty leaf]

Does this apply to world boss drops

[distant bronze]

Daily update, I'm sad about doot 😦

[fading cape]

huh. boots exchange all stats for 15% drop chance? Is that just the flat +0.15 to drop chance?

[green eagle]

idk, i don't think so as i don't think world bosses are coded as monsters? idk 100% though

[fading cape]

sad that doot exists or was doot updated in some way?

[distant bronze]

sad about lava adding it and then his response to it

😦

[next field]

its a dps increase overall, and +free droprate is good

most people doing helm boots + molt chest legs

[distant bronze]

he promised not to put in this kind of gatcha, and I put more money into this game than I would for most AAA titles

[vale wadi]

how does this talent work?

[next field]

obv afk chars use chest legs too

[distant bronze]

Doot costs 4x an overpriced triple AAA game

[fading cape]

guess my math is bad. 2 weapon power and +20 total wisdom doesn't seem a fair exchange for 4% all stats on 20k wisdom

[next field]

on my bubo and dk, boots was about .5% dps increase, but free droprate is nice

not a big upgrade but still there

[fading cape]

yeah. my only real fear is collecting materials and building and getting a drop. But I mean drop rate never bad so alchemy can make up for it over time anyway

guess I gotta push character number 6 up to moles

[green eagle]

that was my problem

[sharp wind]

whats the best class for lava skull spread rift?

[green eagle]

characters 1-5 cleared the whole map, as did 7 & 8

6, 9 & 10 haven't yet lol

[next field]

at least the feet materials is fast if you are end game

[fading cape]

yeah character six is my beastmaster.

[fading cape]

thankfully holding onto 16 cooking shoes. Since I was on vaca def have enough grey salt. So should be good. Could be worse

Though I do gotta make a set just to try those delicious new boss stones

[narrow cloak]

you link to a certain god based on the points you spend on it, there's a pinned post in this channel that shows how many talents correspond to which god

[paper sail]

Very easy way to ruin a set of gear

[fading cape]

obviously that's why it's a spare set of the gear.

Also, heart of the cards

[narrow cloak]

you can also reset the talent even if you haven't unlocked the god, by going on the empty god left of nobisect

[sick sentinel]

you can keep your old magma set, make a new set and roll the new stones. if the stones proc good for you keep that set as magma and then make boss armor with the ones you dont want to keep

[bleak gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1081405137207169115/Idleon_Polytheism_GuideV2.png

[sharp wind]

whats the best class for lava skull spread rift?

[oblique compass]

i found SB quickest

[sharp wind]

flag lv 1?

[modern plaza]

36pens/hr, good enough to max out PO in a week.

[sharp wind]

whats the other class? need 2

[oblique compass]

used ES for the other tollk a little longer

[sharp wind]

how long did it take u?

[oblique compass]

~20 minutes

[sharp wind]

alright thanks

[oblique compass]

i stopped killing stuff when flag or portal was on CD

[lunar oar]

Are there invincible moles during nightmare cattlekruk? Or is that a bug?

[tacit tulip]

Shouldn't be invincible no

The best way to do skulls is to auto until you see a blue skull then manually kill it

You have a 50% chance for it to go purple then another 50% chance for it to go lava, so an average of 1/4

[lunar oar]

the lava ones walked right through my bubo smoke and the aura, and was untargetable with my autos

Is there some trick to it?

[tacit tulip]

Like a crystal one? Didn't see any of those in NM

[undone steeple]

is there another way to increase breedability odds (to reach the tv) or do I have to hit a 1 in 60 everytime? (I just hit thermister on a 1 in 60).

[lunar oar]

Hmm no it wasn't crystal, it looked like the regular mole mob and it dumped lava on boss man when it got there

I might just be unlucky and it's a weird bug

[tacit tulip]

Everything in that list increases odds:

Genetic multi: The points gained from levelling via DNA
Breedable: Putting pink pets in fenceyard
rarity: Egg rarity level
Past pres: Pets unlocked from the world before

Increasing any of these (or the buffs that supply them) will reduce the odds

There's also this one, which is a massive boost

And this one which will make the last few pets trivial

[cosmic tendon]

If a chip doesn’t say one per char can I stack them (lab exp for example)

[undone steeple]

ah, i prob need these to get these pets then..

[cosmic tendon]

Thanks

[undone steeple]

odds of getting new pets are insane to get to tv

my pet breeding vials/stamps/meals/etc are already as high as i can get them

[tacit tulip]

I did most of my unlocks with gold/plat eggs, they make a significant difference

Boombox should be reachable without overwhelmed egg

[cosmic tendon]

What is the tv for?

Like what does it get u that u don’t have

[undone steeple]

really? I only ever let them reach copper and the increase is not good enough

like, its not worth 2 eggs, statisticaly

[cosmic tendon]

Oh the boombox

[tacit tulip]

been being lazy with my eggs lool

[undone steeple]

I assume you're almost done with breedingf lol

im early/mid game still imo

[tacit tulip]

boombox gives you this which is arguably the strongest foraging buff

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I thought tv in w4

[undone steeple]

yea i get them confused xd

is there any place i can check how many eggs i need to get lvl 50?

seems like itd be a lot

im only 45

XD

[tacit tulip]

Not gonna sugar coat it, it IS a lot 😄

[cosmic tendon]

5% skill eff to sweeten the deal though

[tacit tulip]

If you're desperate for DNA/EXp spamming DK on colo to get lots of eggs in the rewards is viable

Did some for soem W4 keys the other day and came out with 750 eggs lol

[undone steeple]

we're on very dif parts of the game sakori hahahah

i do my colos

AS SOON as I get them

[cosmic tendon]

I feel like breeding almost relies on you doing that at some point to have it keep pace with ur other progress

[undone steeple]

XD

i get like ~14 eggs per run

[tacit tulip]

I'm not quite an endgamer, mostly out of laziness 🙂

[cosmic tendon]

So like 30-40 per week

[undone steeple]

I have 170 eggs stached for when I get to push for boombox

[tacit tulip]

I just plod along at my own speed figuring stuff out for myself

[undone steeple]

but i think its nowhere near enough for 50

[cosmic tendon]

Do u have omni links?

[undone steeple]

I got the jewel for faster eggs this week so its gonna go faster now

[cosmic tendon]

That can help a lot

[undone steeple]

yea i have 4 omnis

checkin in every ~2hrs for sailing/gaming

but i was just mostly looking for if I can get to boombox with current eggs/upgrades or not

I guess i cant

[tacit tulip]

Pretty sure I hit 50 on the way to it

Or just after

[undone steeple]

is it worth it to stop pushing shiny buffs for more of the thermister on the fence yard?

[cosmic tendon]

No I think 170 eggs is probably like one level

[undone steeple]

yikes

and im 44 not 45. veryfar

[tacit tulip]

Breedability actually has quite harsh diminishing returns

You'd get more buff, but not double

[undone steeple]

yeai figured

its just, its gnna be the same that happened with penguin

[twin aurora]

it's just me or it's quite hard to scale to a decent lv the cooking exp

[tacit tulip]

Like I don't know if anyone has this achievement lol

[undone steeple]

for dna it'dneed more than 24hrs afk splycing to push another lvl, for minimal buff
for breedability itd be days

and its 1 in 60

so no realistic way to push it for better odds

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, don't worry about cooking level for the most part. You only really care about efficiency and afk%

[cosmic tendon]

Endgamers were saying it’s impossible with some update at some point a bit ago

[chrome tiger]

you can jump to 50 pretty quick with pearls

after that it's really slow

[undone steeple]

didnt know you could do pearls on breeding

[chrome tiger]

cooking*

maybe missed the thread

[undone steeple]

got me excited there for a second

XD

[tacit tulip]

Yeah was a cooking question in the middle of a breeding thread bwaha

[chrome tiger]

the best way to boost breeding i know is to use dk to generate many eggs

from the mini-boss

[twin aurora]

probably need to do that too , only lv 57 with breeding

[iron nymph]

should I just use basic w5 stones on my cattlecuck gear? the boss stones are tempting but probably not worth unless its a really good roll right

[sick sentinel]

they yolo of boss stones imo isnt worth it

im going to try and make a new set of magma and yolo it

[iron nymph]

seems like an ultra endgame thing to do when you have nothing else to spend mats on

[sick sentinel]

if its worse then i'll turn it into kattle gear

[kind mulch]

i'm using w5 town shop stones

[iron nymph]

is the full cuck set better than magma?

[sick sentinel]

depends

DR like helm and boots, afk fighters legs and chest

bubo like magma more for money, besides getting to drop rate breakpoints

and sampling magma is better

plus skilling boots

[iron nymph]

bleh I hate that its so conditional

[sick sentinel]

yeah mainly just situational gear

[gloomy bobcat]

so I guess this just doesn't work

[steel dagger]

Are the 3 sailing skills always active if i use the lvl'd preset BUT the Character is not the current active one?

So like if i use my BB i can still claim everything and get the bonus

[tacit tulip]

Yes, but someone will update you shortly to let you know why unending loot is a bad talent 😄

[fervent yew]

Unending loot is situational, depends on how often you claim

[steel dagger]

it is? Then i reroll
Why tho?

[steel dagger]

often, never under 10 hours

loot doesnt get filled up to proc it prolly

[tacit tulip]

Unlocking artifacts is primarily quantity over quality

Unending loot search caps your loot at Chest pile-1 for the chance of better chests

NOT using unending loot means you get your full pile and also your ships will wait at docks with an extra chest

[fervent yew]

yeah, if you're not having your boats sit idle for extended periods, then you're getting more benefit just having them wait

[tacit tulip]

So, I have 30 chest slots and 20 boats. With unending loot, I get 29 chests per claim

without it, I get 50

[steel dagger]

Huh i seee

I'll respec then, tysm

Another quick question

If i have 2 DK's, do their gaming talents stack?

[echo crag]

valid for all account wide buff talent

[steel dagger]

ayy tysm

[tacit tulip]

Unending loot is decent if you do really short claims (1 hour) or really long ones (24+)

For short claims, you don't cap out, so the talent just gives you more treasure

For high claims, the better chests you bring back can make enough difference to be worth it

[zinc torrent]

Could someone help with getting bits pls

I feel like now I'm losing control of the prices

[bold quiver]

does this boost liquid production?

[tacit tulip]

Bits are largely just various gaming buffs (cooking and w5) and getting lucky rolling a giant nugg

[kind mulch]

check your IE for biggest nugget and pray

lava pls

[zinc torrent]

Oh right

[bold quiver]

u are within range good job

[zinc torrent]

What lvl is ur shovel tho?

[zinc torrent]

Damn

I can't even have one green bit

[bold quiver]

488k max, thats a bad joke

[zinc torrent]

So the only thing I can do is wait for shovel?

[bold quiver]

just keep upgrading stuff

[zinc torrent]

Yes that also

[fervent yew]

upgrade the bits in the fertiliser bit, also sailing artifacts give gaming boost

[echo crag]

sailing artefact can also help

[kind mulch]

yes, gaming is rng

[zinc torrent]

Should I use it every time or wait for more digs?

[kind mulch]

use often as you can

[fervent yew]

whenever you're there

[zinc torrent]

Ok

[echo crag]

shovel breakpoints

[bold quiver]

does this increase liquid speed? if i place shaman in there

[fervent yew]

I don't think it makes a difference for liquids

[dreamy merlin]

since im in w5 and my cooking still sucks what should i do to make it better

[kind mulch]

stamp

[bold quiver]

so close

[fervent yew]

keep upgrading your kitchens, make eggs, use the cooking food stamp and cooking food vial (sandshark), get the cooking artifacts from sailing

[tough tusk]

the 2% artifact chance is better wtf a trash green boy

[stiff prairie]

Some lab gemstones also boosts cooking speed, or directly boost a foods strength (which in turn boosts cooking speed)

[fervent yew]

stack up, but dont use ladels, get your Blood beserker to switch to a spec where they have the ladel efficiency talent and the taste test talent maxed out, set a few kitchens to discover recipes (ideally ones where there's multiple recipes to discover), use a few ladels, then the taste test talent to discover a bunch of recipes, then finish the recipes for a bunch more. Prioritise eggs first, level up the diamond chef bubble and work on getting the easiest recipes to level 11 first for the incremental boosts, takes time no matter what you do. If you get the sailing artifact that boosts cooking speed for turkeys, stock up on 1,000 or 10,000 turkeys and then don't use them to upgrade the meal, as they'll boost speeds as long as you hold onto them

[timber viper]

i think it does - it gives you alchemy time with CC and that should be general time for all progress

[timber viper]

they only boost speed when youre mid w5 and have the relic tho XD

[kind mulch]

Who already reach lvl 500? What's your Grind Time Bubble lvl?

[fervent yew]

I checked and it doesnt appear to, with the talent brew speed in bubble cauldrons goes from 300 to 1k, but whether talent is on or off, my liquid is still only +21% speed.

[timber viper]

ah i meant solely with the use of CC but im too lazy to actually check 2 uses of CC to compare

[dreamy spruce]

Got a second boat and captain but cant seem to put my captain on a boat, how do I do that again?

[fervent yew]

go to the dock (outside of the map), click the boat, then click a captain

[timber viper]

click boat on pier, click the captain on pier

[dreamy spruce]

Ah, thanks!

[bold quiver]

oh thank u very much. I didnt want to respect my bubo just to check that D

[tender pine]

What foods should I use on bubo? I have 5 slots.

[green eagle]

at least 2 speed pots (largest you can afford), gold grilled cheese, golden kabob (or w5 bullets), golden bread is what i use, i also have 6 slots so i use 3 speed pots just for movement speed/tiny extra dmg

sometimes i use just 2 largest speed pots i own, then use gkabobs & w5 bullets + other stuff i said

[solid mason]

Do divine knight gaming boosts stack or does it just take the highest level one?

[green eagle]

but it isn't truly necessary

highest level one is how that stuff typically works

[bold quiver]

we did it boys @sick sentinel

[green eagle]

however there was a bug with something when they released and it was taking the lower level ones from a 2nd character

oh and i just realized i have enough po box points to start only investing in myriad box. so 96k more boxes to go lmao

[solid mason]

Ez pz

[visual lava]

Does the quest use up the necklace?

You have to get the drop on the character and the just wear then amulet?

[bold quiver]

yes

so make sure u get that on a class that u can get 425 aha

[visual lava]

GT is leveled

[sick sentinel]

daaamnn grats!

[visual lava]

It's every character

[bold quiver]

stil leveling barbarian active would be a pain

[sick sentinel]

normal boss?

[ocean lily]

keeps happening; just reboot?

[bold quiver]

i would play that version, seems nice

[bold quiver]

i think ill keep farming nightmare on another class to try and get more trophy

[visual lava]

No doots in sight, just complete darkness

[sick sentinel]

smort

[bold quiver]

i did yesterday 800 runs on normal and only got 1 necklace, didnt drop obol e_e

now my bubo has reached the next breakpoint in gold. Its 13 right?

[green eagle]

why would anyone use this

[bold quiver]

cuz its good for sampling

[heady scaffold]

technically bis

realistically absolute shit

[green eagle]

if you get the right main stat :/

[sick sentinel]

lol first nightmare, bless your soul for the strat

[bold quiver]

cape soon!

[green eagle]

i wasn't here for the strat

[sick sentinel]

i got cape yesteday

time to get trophy

[green eagle]

i've just been farming on bubo

[bold quiver]

oh gg man, congratsssssssss !!

[green eagle]

my es is easy with it too

[sick sentinel]

nah the strat was just to keep doing nm boss for more capes

[bold quiver]

yep

[sick sentinel]

on dif chars

[bold quiver]

after running almost 1k yesterday i realized that was the best lol

[lavish cloak]

whew. voidwalker down. the rest should be easy

[sick sentinel]

niiice

[tough tusk]

is that the smithing one?

[heady scaffold]

this is actually what im doing for kills

[green eagle]

oh so just keep doing nm kruk? i haven't gotten a single pendant or cape drop yet, only have killed him 12 times though

[bold quiver]

well i realized im kinda dumb... Ive been farming this whole time on bubo without jawbreaker prayer on for multiplying gold lol

[heady scaffold]

hopefully w6 comes out before its finally vman's turn

[sick sentinel]

i mean i dont know if its better, just helps give a chacne for more trophies to be made

so worth

[sick sentinel]

thts the boss drop

[bold quiver]

yeah,statisticaly normal mode will give u more necks and more obols if u run infinite trials

[green eagle]

wait midas works with bosses and doesn't increase their hp right? i've forgotten and don't have it on

[bold quiver]

but realisticaly it feels like its better to keep doing nightmare

[green eagle]

finally a use for all those lads

[atomic kiln]

consider it a slab count 😄

[heady scaffold]

would recommend w5 stoning your first one

[green eagle]

lol at least it counts for something

[heady scaffold]

only got 6/11 for my 2nd and 3rd scarf

[green eagle]

what are dr breakpoints for kruk?

[atomic kiln]

this one is the OP stuff

[sick sentinel]

shop stone you mean?

[heady scaffold]

yeah

[calm knoll]

For the divine trophy, I assume 1 scarf can be used on all chars for the first section but for the get cape part, does he just require you to get a cape drop on that char in order for it to trigger?

[strong crag]

What damage you do it at?

[sick sentinel]

yeah i aint foolin around with boss stones just yet

[lavish cloak]

63 billion-ish

[heady scaffold]

yeah need to actually get the cape to drop on that char

[green eagle]

i used 4 (only had 4) on a dreadlo axe and all 4 worked 😄

[strong crag]

THanks my man should be doable then - just need to try 🤣

[atomic kiln]

the gains

[lavish cloak]

just make sure to keep your attacks on cooldown, and aim for the big clumps of moles, otherwise you should autoattack them if they're spaced out, and wait till the last second to clear the screen while you get more hits in

[ocean lily]

come on yall, show off the real goods:

[lavish cloak]

gratz on scarf

[atomic kiln]

thx bro 😄

man, on my to getting all to 1000m kills on w5, im ready for w 6 soon 😄

that glove was abselutley a pain to make

[strong crag]

630M kills for the recipe >.<

[calm knoll]

How so outside the molten core which you probs have for months now the other mats are a joke

[visual lava]

Ganggang

[sick sentinel]

lmao nice clan

sick trophy tho 💪

[atomic kiln]

clan?

[visual lava]

Clan made by me. I don't even have half the bonuses but it's my friend's and mine clan

FemboyHooters

[sick sentinel]

guild XD

[atomic kiln]

u mean BoB?

[sick sentinel]

clan was teh first that came to my head

[sick sentinel]

as long as its fun

[visual lava]

That's right!

A sense of pride and accomplishment

[sick sentinel]

this is my friends and I

[visual lava]

Nice!

[atomic kiln]

ACDC

only its Dirty deeds

[sick sentinel]

i may have mispelled it and realized after

[atomic kiln]

so u thought of acdc when u made it?

[sick sentinel]

got it from jojo tho

[atomic kiln]

yoyo?

[sick sentinel]

jojo's bizarre adventure

[atomic kiln]

ohhh

[sick sentinel]

all the stands are named after bands or songs

or most are

[atomic kiln]

divine

[placid mural]

Anyone placing bets on an update this weekend?

[visual lava]

Ah

I know what you mean

[sick sentinel]

[visual lava]

Crazy Diamond

[sick sentinel]

need 2 lvls then im gaming

[atomic kiln]

ill give u my throphy if it is an update lol

[visual lava]

Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price

[placid mural]

I'm kind of hopeful for cattle and badger divinity bonuses coming soon?

[sick sentinel]

wait is dirty deeds actualy called that in a version

[visual lava]

Not yet

[sick sentinel]

ah copyright anime version

[visual lava]

We have to wait until part 7 gets animated

[round elk]

thos gods are probably world 6

[placid mural]

I thinkI figured that at least.I figured that at least. Cattle would get released before world six because he has now been defeated in game

Sorry voice to text is garbage

[atomic kiln]

sexy

[sick sentinel]

i wonder if we may need to wait for apple to approve the next update

[calm knoll]

Are the max roll on these +6% afk, +3% gain and 2x stat rolls or?

[placid mural]

Omfg

[sick sentinel]

goodbye frags if youre doing that lol

im sticking with 6 afk

[ocean lily]

i have a feeling that a 5 kruk obols theyre alright on frags

[calm knoll]

I'm well acquainted with the brain rot of rerolling obols

Still no cape in 50ish runs(nm)

[sick sentinel]

thats rough buddy...

got any pendats?

[calm knoll]

yea 3 divine scarfs so far

[placid mural]

I was thrilled to get the Wings yesteray

[rocky lake]

Think I'm gonna be here for a little while

[calm knoll]

Vman vibes

[atomic kiln]

newbs on tour in w5 😄

[sick sentinel]

oof

[atomic kiln]

yeah

[rocky lake]

I mean the moles can't get to it so it's not gonna heal

Just gonna take half a hour

[lavish cloak]

do you need to loot the wings on each character or can you pass them around for the trophy quest?

[tough tusk]

is it vman?

[sick sentinel]

wings is liek the ghost drop for w2 keys, need to have teh quest active and drop it on that char for it to count

[rocky lake]

This is my ES

[tough tusk]

oh that a problem

[calm knoll]

Oh my sweet child

[atomic kiln]

evevry char needs to complete the quest, so u have to get a drop on every char, cant pass it

[lavish cloak]

cool. sounds like we will have 6 star cards without even trying then.

[calm knoll]

The wings dont get consumed i assume?

[atomic kiln]

nope

[lavish cloak]

skill wings handed out like oprah

[atomic kiln]

im wondering what to use my god shards at...

[tough tusk]

its so fun watching people killng the new boss meanwhile me getting some hampters

[calm knoll]

Cant wait to swap out entire loadouts and spend x minutes setting up on every char only not to get the cape anyway

[lavish cloak]

i'm wondering what kind of micromanagement awaits me

[lavish cloak]

ah fuck the afk gain AND the total damage can roll higher

even the weapon power? boof

i need to farm fragments >D

[calm knoll]

Where are the stat rolls dont tell me that you are settling for such a trash obol

[atomic kiln]

i had better

[hidden quail]

Hello, random question. I never bothered rerolling obols since i assumed u just got a new obol from it. So looking at u fellas does it just reroll stat lines?

[calm knoll]

Correct

[atomic kiln]

but i stopped when i got 3 on dmg and 6 on afk

[sick sentinel]

holy i forgot i had white pearls and those actually help lvl quite a bit

[atomic kiln]

also i kinda ran out of fragments

[lavish cloak]

wise.

[calm knoll]

If you dont have a shit tone of fragments just roll obols until you get the misc stat by +1 so silver pop ends up giving 3% droprate instead of 2 when you do that 12 times it starts to add up @hidden quail

[hidden quail]

Wat lvl u using them? I have a shit load but never used since i assumed they scaled poorly (im roughly 380ish on all chars

[plucky sphinx]

fishing and mining portals dont count for the speedrun for vman right?

[atomic kiln]

i might need to kill some time at sand pots getting frags lol

[sick sentinel]

448(2/3 full)-450 in like 10 pearls for me

it scales to your lvl as well

[hidden quail]

Ty for tip, atm i have tons of frags all my chars have almost full obol sets for what i want so ill def look into rerolling after work

[hidden quail]

Ooo thats actually really good. I just assumed poor late game scaling and never tested lol

[sick sentinel]

i didnt even remember i had em

[heady scaffold]

think it stays at 10% xp per pearl now

[calm knoll]

Eh its a time kill but realistically you can always do better shit rather than chase like what +8 stat, I usually just reroll when I endup getting a few thousand after playing on dk for a day or two

[heady scaffold]

used to be shit at some point iirc, then got buffed

[signal osprey]

Yeah its always 10% regardless of level

[atomic kiln]

good tip

[dreamy merlin]

i forgot you can upgrade obols like this

[unreal cypress]

is there a way to lvl up fishing faster on vman? i zoomed to 101 choppin but fishing is so slow lol

[steep cipher]

Food that increases fishing speed

[narrow cloak]

is the artifact that lets you manage what rarity chests you get basically useless when i'm starting out? I don't see why i would want to enable it. i assume if a captain rolls for a chest that's filtered out he just comes back empty?

[steep cipher]

9.5million crawler kills done, 500k to go for wurms

[deep lodge]

Anyone has a good estimation for time between Cranium Cooking on a well optimised bubo at wurms? 350% MS, 8 auras, melee, and all the shenanigans
I keep missing the timing to set up a stopwatch ^^'

[lavish cloak]

Since bubo reduces it with tenteyecle, i get roughly 3 ccs an hour

[deep lodge]

Alright, thanks !

Also, anyone knows the formula for grind time liquid cost? I wanna get an idea of how much time I need to invest to get to certain levels

Actually I'm dumb, Toolbox has that

[native onyx]

After focussing on my drop rate for a bit, I now have a bunch of Lucky Lads that I can't do anything with

[deep lodge]

We now have a use for it with new W5 gear

[green eagle]

new scarf from kruk will take care of that

[native onyx]

Oh really? I haven't seen the crafting recipe for it yet

[green eagle]

so i can officially stop filtering lucky lads again

[sick sentinel]

takes 2 each

[native onyx]

Oh, that's not bad then

[green eagle]

sad he didn't make a luckier/luckiest lad and beyond lol

would've been a fun trophy to have

[native onyx]

Yeah, I feel like that would have been a cool way to keep them around

Like 3 Lucky Lads to make a Luckier Lad or something then 3 Luckier Lads to make a Luckiest Lad lol

[green eagle]

yeah pretty much

[placid mural]

Yeah, 5 lucky lads makes a luckier lad. With something like 20 or 25% drop Great

[green eagle]

just keeps scaling up and up

[deep lodge]

At 1 lucky lad per 278 pens it's also really not hard to get 7+ a day

[green eagle]

make it THE drop rate trophy

[native onyx]

I think my max in a day has been 3?

7 seems crazy

[green eagle]

like idc if it had any other stats, just keep compounding the drop rate on it

[deep lodge]

I filtered it so long ago, I'd have to try again when pen farming

[placid mural]

I've been getting several lucky lads per day while key farming

[native onyx]

Yeah, I got one when i was obol farming on my DK

[deep lodge]

Well, 2000 pens a day is quite easy to achieve. And the ratio of pens to lucky lads is always the same

[native onyx]

How are you getting 2k a day?

[deep lodge]

DK at bloodbones for example

[native onyx]

Ahh okay

[deep lodge]

A bit less at wurms

[native onyx]

Yeah, Wurms is lower for me

[deep lodge]

Still pretty good, along with keys

[native onyx]

I haven't tried DK at BB though

Yeah, Wurms is great just generally. Especially now the boss keys are a thing.

[deep lodge]

You get less orbs but pen rates are 2-3x better than at wurms

[native onyx]

Yeah, that checks out then.

[deep lodge]

orb counter at wurms is nuts, I got to 850 yesterday

[native onyx]

Damn really?

[native onyx]

I don't think I've cracked 700 yet

That's crazy high

[signal osprey]

That orb count is why DK is the best key farmer. Even beats out ES

[hollow wasp]

are you losing XP? xd

i got my weekly reset tomorrow. pog

should i get the first few giants on my DK because droprate or is it whatever?

[deep lodge]

Just don't forget giant bubble

[hollow wasp]

i think i dont got it

[native onyx]

Quick question, what's best way to farm W5 Boss Keys?

[hollow wasp]

i have the pet what equips all bubbles. i think i dont have the giant one yet

[deep lodge]

This guy

13th bubble

[hollow wasp]

im yellow 12 or smth

[native onyx]

It's in the yellow cauldron. It's one of the first big bubbles I think.

[deep lodge]

Then try to get him asap, it really helps you get more candy/gems out of your weekly giants

[hollow wasp]

i dump my both best chars in this cauldron then

[native onyx]

Yeah, I get like double, usually over what I would get normally.

[deep lodge]

Don't forget this bubo skill when unlocking bubbles

[hollow wasp]

ye i maxed it

i should book it rn

[deep lodge]

Also, you got lots of easy gains in alchemy, with your low levels on most bubbles

[hollow wasp]

thats a good start huh

k unlocked 12th bubble

but not 13th, didnt work 27%

[pallid torrent]

How do you increase odds of unlocking "Chemical" plant? Mine doesn't go past 3% and I've been spamming it since w5 dropped with no luck

or is there a way to guarentee unlock it?

[somber sparrow]

.3% u mean? it doesnt go higher

[deep lodge]

Spam at 0.001% (or lowest possible) as often as possible

[somber sparrow]

gotta rely on luck, spam unlock after every harvest

[placid mural]

i am dreading fighting nightmare kruk with Vman

[pallid torrent]

no, 3% is the max chance it goes to

for me at least

[deep lodge]

Have you been waiting to reach 3% each time?

[pallid torrent]

yea

[deep lodge]

Yikes

[placid mural]

OOOF

[barren otter]

just send it at 0.2%

[pallid torrent]

ive done it now what has got to be over 300 tries at it, a couple times a day, is there no way to increase odds or use skill to unlock it??

[deep lodge]

Click as often as possible, even at 1 DNA

[deep lodge]

No, just luck and many tries

[pallid torrent]

it is just more rng-walled content?

[deep lodge]

This the step after chemical (can't click anymore), to show you the horrible scaling

[pallid torrent]

why is everything brick-walled with rng this is such garbage

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[somber sparrow]

theres no scaling, it stops at 0.3

[pallid torrent]

i know ive seen tons of people with the evergreen and im confuysed how they got that but i cant get chemical

i feel like lava hates me and has manually adjusted the rng on my acc to fuck with me, it is tons of rng bs with everything

[barren otter]

lmao

[placid mural]

evergreen comes before chem

[deep lodge]

Is it hard stop or an asymptote?

[somber sparrow]

hard

[barren otter]

bad rng oh no surely dev is out to personally get me...

cmon man

[pallid torrent]

so evergreen only has max 3% odds?

[barren otter]

thats a shit take

[placid mural]

i guess so, dont remember

[deep lodge]

Please stop thinking about max odds, you need to click as often as possible

[pallid torrent]

how do you make sure you can get it though i mean, like more make sure it actually happens eventually and that some bug isnt keeping it from unlocking

[somber sparrow]

evergreen too long ago for me, just click after every single "harvest all"

[pallid torrent]

essentially what i do which brins me to 2.3-3% odds

[visual lava]

Atleast the odds are better than eldritch artifacts

[pallid torrent]

iis there no way to increase the odds or make it guarenteed eventually?

[visual lava]

No

[deep lodge]

It's the same with all RNG in the game, some people get way more unlucky than others. But I get what you mean, I was asking myself the same question the other day (for colosseum ticket in post office) and there was actually something preventing me from getting them

[barren otter]

turn kitsune on
check min regrow time
click research at that time

youll get it eventually

[pallid torrent]

is there a known bug that keeps evergreen from unlocking? everytime i write up a bug like this it gets removed as "not a bug" or "already reported"

[deep lodge]

I don't think so

[somber sparrow]

there isnt, other people would have had it too

[gusty fossil]

Nice

[deep lodge]

What are the odds at 1 DNA / 1 harvest?

[somber sparrow]

dude, theres people with 1.5b suggma kills without a drop that has a 1:50m chance without modifiers - being unlucky is part of the game sometimes

[pallid torrent]

it should happenm within at least 100 attempts then? no? im at probably a couple or few hundred attempts at 2-3%

[barren otter]

unfortunately thats just not how it works

[somber sparrow]

it COULD - maths doesnt work that way

[barren otter]

its also 0.2% min chance

[somber sparrow]

you can do thousands of tries, however thats very unlikely

[placid mural]

With kitsune on for me

[deep lodge]

That's an expected 500 tries

[barren otter]

yea was gonna say

its much higher than 1 in 100

[pallid torrent]

But then how have others unlocked not only that but the even more rare plant without just being incrediubly lucky?

[deep lodge]

By not waiting for 3%

[barren otter]

took me like 3 weeks of hitting at .2%

didnt even think about it

it just happened

[deft grail]

that's so romantic ^_^

[pallid torrent]

not even p2w way to guarentee it?

[somber sparrow]

u asked that question 3 times before and it was ed

[pallid torrent]

How do others get it though then? how many tried wherer it is mathematically guarenteed?

like there is a point where the improbability is simply impossible no?

[bleak gazelle]

rngesus bb

[pallid torrent]

that doesnt make since that you can just not progress in the game

[green eagle]

nice finally got one

[vital tusk]

fancy @green eagle