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[shrewd nexus]

why? 2es kinda useless too if you have doot

[molten scarab]

Because can't guarentee doot 😦

[dreamy merlin]

Good point,but they both are equally shit if you have doot

[molten scarab]

ES faster afk farm than bubo though , if you got 3 mages

[dreamy merlin]

Who cares abt afk tbh

[molten scarab]

5.5M mush kills an hour

better than bubo sitting lab

[dreamy merlin]

True extra gmush

[lavish cloak]

After you decide that you want more mages so you can print more oak logs, whether its es or bubo is barely semantics after doot

[molten scarab]

basically 2 bubos more useless than 2es imo :3

one can sit div with the 3 talents maxed for account wide at worst

[dreamy merlin]

1 sits at lab either way

Bc goat

[lavish cloak]

Are we talking doot or nondoot?

[dreamy merlin]

Doot rn

Non doot es always better than bubo

[lavish cloak]

With doot arent all characters always in lab and divinity alter passively?

[rapid aurora]

Not on divinity alter unless inside lab AFk

[molten scarab]

shits kinda confusing isn't it . you get div exp just not points yeah?

or is that the stance

[rapid aurora]

You don't get XP or points

Unless physically in lab you get both

[molten scarab]

and they all have rabbit+30% afk + 2x portal kills 😮 ?

[molten scarab]

what does goat do though ?

[rapid aurora]

Nothing

[strong socket]

and goat, so even more afk%

[lavish cloak]

Afk gains for all other characters

[rapid aurora]

It gets cancelled out by bear

[zealous niche]

When your char is IN lab it gives div too

Chars with bear are ACTIVE in lab, thus not eligible for goat

[molten scarab]

oh , games confusing now LOL

[rapid aurora]

Yes physically sitting in lab

[molten scarab]

put char in lab for div

[rapid aurora]

Yes

And you get lab XP

[molten scarab]

but with doot, they always all have bear

oh right, you just put them in lab anyway

[lavish cloak]

But you need to go to div alter to switch out of tranqi, guess its not ezmode everywhere

1st world problems

[molten scarab]

hardest part is working to earn the money to get doot

thats like a month long grind man

[lavish cloak]

When i unlocked ruby cards half w1 and w2 auto rubied. Its just which cards you care about

[dreamy merlin]

Like 30-40 hours with minimum wage

I think

[molten scarab]

I stand at the end of drive-thru's with a sign

[lavish cloak]

Panhandle on the corner of the highway "Need Doot"

[dreamy merlin]

37 hours with my minimum wage

Or 43 if your under 18

How much money is 100% doot again?

[fallen jacinth]

430$

[lavish cloak]

Was 1755$ for 99.9%. Now its 530$ish i think

[molten scarab]

I mean, Lava does deserve it

[dreamy merlin]

I thought someone said it was at least 500

[simple void]

This is rng calculations. If you count purely 200 pity without recycling is $548usd

[fallen jacinth]

yes but pretty sure everyone will recycle their dup pet

it's still base on your luck ofc

[simple void]

Understand but best give the base price. Since not all have the same rng and even if 100samples means are taken. Hahaha.

I guess that’s how $500 easy number came about. Easy reference.

[fallen jacinth]

idk man i don't even know why this chart exist

[bleak gazelle]

so we can cry

[simple void]

To give some dolphin some hope.

[lavish cloak]

So we can see the raw data instead of blindly buy whatever doot requires because doot too good to not have

[simple void]

And to gratify those who spend only $20 with their rng luck.

[lavish cloak]

People who spend 20$ and get all the pets got a reasonable experience. Everyone else gets to fund lava's interest in future development in the game in an uncapped environment

110$ in and i have all but doot.

I spent more on idleon this past month than i spent on legend of zelda tears of the kingdom.

[fading dust]

The tool tip for VMAN enhance isn't showing up for my sleeping on the job. Is it bugged?

[simple void]

25000 is about usd275. Getting just 3 slugs or even custard is so sad. And 80% of the time you are feeling dam angry and frustrated with all those beans and moltis. And thinking to yourself. Why the heck am I spending such big money. With a 10gem recycled pet with $2.75 each click. Lol.

Doot and pets are nice qol and op but dayum the rate is so bad.

[lavish cloak]

Got it leveled in the same talent spec?

[fading dust]

Yup!

Had to restart my game and it showed up

[simple void]

I was a big support of lava with his wing bundles. To sponsor some of his daily food. But this doot really killing it.

[gray pagoda]

I was just on IdleOn Efficiency and it says the leaderboards are closed, what's up with that?

[simple void]

Now I’m gonna starve this month. 😭

[gray pagoda]

I clicked the link but it isn't working for some reason

[lavish cloak]

Did you get doot though?

[simple void]

Yeah I did. 🤡 hence I’m starving.

[true obsidian]

how many boss event we can fight per day? 10?

[lavish cloak]

At least you got it

[lavish cloak]

Boss event? You mean random encounters? One a day i thought. Hourly?

[simple void]

But may die soon. No survivability substance in the real world. Hahah.

[simple void]

Probably 2-3 times if you are active enough.

The most I seen was two.

[true obsidian]

yes, random event. i remember that we can only join it 1 per day, after you fight any event, you can't see other event until day reset

[sick sentinel]

random events is once per daily reset

[zealous niche]

It has a chance to activate every hour

[simple void]

I must be seeing things. Lol

[true obsidian]

i mean how many time we can join it per day? or just every time we see it pop up we can join it

[lavish cloak]

Being satisfied with your hobby completely lets you survive on less. Your not out spending money on amazon or the mall or drinks. If you dont spend again for 3 months it technically is an investment in your hobby entertainment/enrichment

[simple void]

Hahaha yeah just kidding around. Imagine another king doot type in the next rotation. Man. It’s gonna burn deeeeeep.

Pretty sure lava ain’t gonna wait 4 years for the next rotation. But I did saw he’s not changing after 10weeks. Gonna delay it.

[lavish cloak]

I can imagine a lot of things for future pets, but to be on par with doot youll need a lot of effects wrapped up in a single pet. If im incentivized to spend 400$ every 3 months on this game this will be the end of my gaming career >D

[simple void]

He might put every 6 months. Haha. Give and take about $65 a month.

Not counting the in between wing bundles and events sales.

[little harbor]

Whats the site that has the builds for different things (fight, skill, etC)? coming back after long break, lost my bookmarks

[pearl cedar]

Idleoninsight

[sick sentinel]

!it has something of a builds section

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[pearl cedar]

Oh builds sorry misread

[pulsar cliff]

4 mobs left then done superchows

[sick sentinel]

its ok, reading is hard

[lavish cloak]

W5?

[pulsar cliff]

Yup!

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-shookt-shocked-gif-5580082

[pulsar cliff]

haha I love that gif.

I mean still have bloops but that is my grandkids problem

[lavish cloak]

Pass down your steam account with a special addendum for idleon

[atomic dirge]

Any reason for this to not work. I should have 2

[pulsar cliff]

I KNOW WHY.

I assume you have BBs?

[pearl cedar]

Bonus mobs?

[atomic dirge]

I have 2 BBs

or wdym

[lavish cloak]

This is bugged and only works for the 2nd bb

[pulsar cliff]

Because if the answer is yes: You need to do it on your second one, not your first.

[atomic dirge]

no way

[pulsar cliff]

If the answer is no: hire an exorcist.

[atomic dirge]

oh god

[pulsar cliff]

Whatchu talking about Willis?

[bleak gazelle]

if you swap your second BB to DK then it'll count

[lavish cloak]

My condolences

[pearl cedar]

Acorn map, dr defacus map, rift

[atomic dirge]

I might actually just do that x)

[sick sentinel]

2 dk better for cons gains anyway

[pulsar cliff]

Rift yes, the poops on Acorn and Def count as seperate? Same for Zow?

[atomic dirge]

Thanks for the info

[pulsar cliff]

Huh

Candies work/

[pearl cedar]

Yup

[pulsar cliff]

Bet.

[little harbor]

isnt there somewhere with an infographic that shows what things to equip toi maximize specifi skill efficiency?

[pearl cedar]

Can also technically superchow the invisible gmush at doot, but you can't candy so meh

[pulsar cliff]

Thanks Buddha

[sick sentinel]

#bot-commands you can do '!help commands' and most of the commands you are looking for are like !minechart and so on

[pearl cedar]

Though maybe somewhat doable with all the new respawn we got. But still like 2 weeks of active at doot

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah noty

[green eagle]

I didn’t even know there was one 🤣

[pearl cedar]

Oh almost done

[tall horizon]

Takes less than a day at endgame, worth it

[pearl cedar]

Not for superchow

[pearl cedar]

Or is the excess respawn that Good?

[pulsar cliff]

That's crazy .What are your KPH for like. Let's take Lampars for instance, since that's where I'm at lol

[solid python]

dang

best ive been able to get

not sure how to make it any better

120 hours it is

[sharp vine]

120 hours for what?

[solid python]

vman

its 12m kills isnt it

[pearl cedar]

This is on my SB with best afk gear I have. The rest are at like 4m/hr

[sharp vine]

Oh the mushroom DN kills? How many gmush kills do you have already?

[solid python]

probably just barely over 1m

[sharp vine]

If you've hit the quota, just take your mman TO the deathnote in w3 and look at it

[pulsar cliff]

Holy. Also lol 322% AFK is bonkers

[solid python]

so 110 hours then

[sharp vine]

Ahhh. Well you can collectively put your people there to speed up the process

[solid python]

?

it says on him only

[swift pecan]

It is only vman

[pearl cedar]

Tbh prob not even worth it to go for vman yet for you

[sharp vine]

Oh did he change it or am I misremembering from a different quest in the chain?

[fallen jacinth]

guys does better skull give better charge rate

[weary hinge]

yo can candy that quest.

[solid python]

the 30 1m kills is death note

12m gmush is mman only

i dont have a ton of candy

[ashen marsh]

woo finally got 1m kills w1-w3 and gmush

am i all good for vman?

[solid python]

i used a bunch for the deathnote kills

[sharp vine]

Ah okay so there were two kill/DN based ones. It's been a hot minute since I did em

[solid python]

since i decided to chow while i was at it

[weary hinge]

i feel you. but dk colo 2 for quick candies

[lavish cloak]

Candy comes from time played, so its a factor of account age. Viscious cycles and whatnot

[ashen marsh]

i havent used candy since I started the game. lol

[solid python]

well my account is old but my gametime isnt high

[solid python]

i started probably 2-3 years ago

maybe 2?

idk maybe not so long but it felt like a long time it was before w3 was a thing at minimum

[ashen marsh]

I started 3 months ago

[sharp vine]

That's a decent stash of candies ngl

[lavish cloak]

Rory goin ham

[ashen marsh]

I'm still noob 😦

[lavish cloak]

More specifically going afk for specific amounts of time to guarantee candies from talents or starsigns, then giant mob farming.

[weary hinge]

you mainly get up to 4hr candy on colos, if you alrady can farm colo tix you should do it daily. more colo gains

unless the miniboss drops a 12hr to 24hr candy

[ashen marsh]

yeah I keep for getting to do giant mob

is getting vman hard once you have the requirements?

[lavish cloak]

Cant wait for more colo ticket sources. I always justify not spending my keys with the dopamine a backlog availability gives me

[weary hinge]

w6 delivery box gives decent amount, tho you have to be patient since its kinda hard to roll for a ticket.

but since you overflow pens at some point, it wont get that much hard

[weary hinge]

nope. its actually faster

your only problem is the 12m mman gmush kill

[lavish cloak]

"Problem"

[weary hinge]

well he has candies, not gonna be a problem haha

[ashen marsh]

do I have do beat chaotic chizoar on mastro?

or any character

ehh dont matter

[dreamy merlin]

Maestro obv

Still easy anyways

[ashen marsh]

dope

[fading dust]

What do y'all sample for chopping?

[ashen marsh]

we get this as a reward?

too bad I already spent $300 in cards

okay what should I lvl? the speedrun one?

[nimble yarrow]

You can only get 3 colo tickets a day right?

[ashen marsh]

1 per coliseum

[versed cypress]

make sure to put points in the chess talent for maestro beforehand it also gives talents points

[zealous niche]

Speedrun always needs 1 level in it

Always

[ashen marsh]

anybody have a talent guide for vman?

[lean niche]

whats highest level u can get the multitool stamp to? within reason

[zealous niche]

First three skills are critical to progressing in speedrunning

[versed cypress]

completely depends on your carry cap and your money income

[dreamy merlin]

4th doesn't have 1 so 3

[ashen marsh]

true

[lean niche]

@versed cypress approaching 200 with the collider bonus wasnt sure 210 was doable

[zealous niche]

Last vman skill on first row you want as many as you can in it when you’re not speedrunning

[ashen marsh]

so max first 3 for speed runnign right

[versed cypress]

between the colider 90% off and the special stamp 95% you can probably push it further if you push your carry stamps first

[lean niche]

@versed cypress there a place i can put in to see what the cost of 210 would be i can see 200 atm but not sure what 210 would be

[zealous niche]

Probably are other possible comps, but that works so no need for innovation

[manic moat]

killing the giants in the rift were easy for my ES and SB but I cannot find another player I can complete....any thoughts?

my DK gets close, 153m minimum dmg

[bleak gazelle]

have you tried second ES

[manic moat]

..

[ashen marsh]

do we have to kill 4k planks here?

for speedrun

[manic moat]

yeah, multikill helps a lot

[ashen marsh]

oh i can just tp lmao

[twilit goblet]

is seashell the priority upgrade here?

[fallen jacinth]

damn

[ashen marsh]

anybody have a build for the 2nd preset for vman?

I have to do speed run there too right?

[dreamy merlin]

Is squirrel rlly useful?

Idk what it does

[versed cypress]

no idea to be honest

[lean kestrel]

You need at least 1 level in the skill yeah, but you don't have to actually use it with your skilling preset

[lavish cloak]

Make one build where you invest solely into talents that help you murder harder + voidwalker offensive skills, then another build where you invest in literally every other talent vman has.

[ashen marsh]

i still have to complete speed run on 2nd preset right

[ashen marsh]

true true true

[dreamy merlin]

I just realized slow mode is off in this chat...

[ashen marsh]

should i max this one?

[lean kestrel]

Nope, you'll notice that once you put the first point in the skill you'll get a TON of skill pts

[dreamy merlin]

No

[ashen marsh]

yeah my bad i confused it with skill exp lol

[dreamy merlin]

If it was multiplicative that would be amazing,but its obv additive

[lean kestrel]

(you might have to swap skill tabs for the points to show up though)

[hollow wasp]

Unlocked God 3 🙂

Can't I link my ES to it and have bear as 2nd God?

[hollow ledge]

ye

[hollow wasp]

How many points do we do in the talent? Someone said has to be atleast 10, I was super confused

[ashen marsh]

is this one good?

[hollow ledge]

if you have the spare points, that one is very influential in certain aspects

[hollow ledge]

as far im aware, there isnt a minimum, but you need to put the exact points needed for the god you want.

[bleak gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1081405137207169115/Idleon_Polytheism_GuideV2.png

[hollow wasp]

Okay thanks

[hollow wasp]

Thanks

[snow hamlet]

where is the constellation on the maccie map

[cosmic tendon]

At least 10 for snake

[hollow wasp]

As i have div XP lvled a bit in bear, I can just stick to bear and 2nd link nubi huh

[cosmic tendon]

https://idleon.guide/wp-content/uploads/World-5-Constellation-Niagrilled-Falls-300x147.png.webp

[cosmic tendon]

The blessing doesn’t need any links to apply

[cosmic tendon]

On waterfall see pic above not my pic, taken from Reddit

[ashen marsh]

wait can someone help me understand this

[cosmic tendon]

The enhancement part?

Very important to max that

On skilling tab

[dreamy merlin]

What abt it

[ashen marsh]

yeah the enhancement part.

[cosmic tendon]

The skill lvl lower doesn’t apply to mman

U always get 2x the exp boost that the skill gives to other chars with lower skill level (in same skill)

[ashen marsh]

if my vman has the highest mining lvl do I still get 2x exp?

[hollow ledge]

left hand and right hand dont apply to MM/Vman without the enhancement eclipse upgrades

[ashen marsh]

or does my vman only get 2x exp if my warrior has a higher mining lvl?

[hollow ledge]

how do the hands read?

[cosmic tendon]

vman is supposed to have highest lvl

[hollow ledge]

the hands dont do anything unless Vman has highest lvl in the skill. before the bonuses only applied to your other chars. with the eclipse upgrade, they now ALSO apply to Vman if conditions are right

[ashen marsh]

so if my vman has the highest lvl does my vman still get 2x exp? for let's say mining for exp.

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah

[ashen marsh]

got it ty guys

[cosmic tendon]

Waka wdym conditions are right?

[hollow ledge]

meaning Vman is highest lvl

[cosmic tendon]

Oh I think it works for vman all the time

[hollow ledge]

if it does then thats sick. the way i read it though, it feels like Vman needs to be the highest lvl tho

[dreamy merlin]

I thought it just worked as well

Someone should test it

[twilit goblet]

Why is bubo's dmg so much lower than ES? activing on ES nukes the whole map in seconds whereas active bubo im watching mobs losing 10% each tick of cloud

[cosmic tendon]

Poison is low dmg attack

[dreamy merlin]

Posion does low dmg

Meteors dont

[cosmic tendon]

Meteor and lightning are very high

[dreamy merlin]

Neither do lightning or orb

[twilit goblet]

bubo is just slow by design? wondering if i should skill up other dmg talents on bubo just to active faster then respec haha

[dreamy merlin]

All high poison low

[dreamy merlin]

Yea bubo need high lvl and preferably 200 tent

[hollow ledge]

bubo needs a lot of investment to turn online

[cosmic tendon]

It’s kind of account progression

Later ppl are preferring bubo

[opaque sun]

the aura is the main attack of bubo anyway

Poison is just a sidearm

[hollow ledge]

once bubo gets going though, its basically constant killing-->constant alch progress-->constant money

[dreamy merlin]

Once its big enough and 200 tent

[bold quiver]

wdym slow

[dreamy merlin]

Slow to get good

[cosmic tendon]

I think they mean they’re not one shorting

[opaque sun]

For example in killroy, bubo takes few seconds to get rolling, but at the end it will get more kills than es

[bold quiver]

u just forget that bubo exists until u can one shot soda cans with poison

thats how u play the class, OP

[cosmic tendon]

Honestly I’m leaving bubo alone until I have 200 book

[opaque sun]

use melee weapon to main attack with aura

[bold quiver]

u can start playing him before 200 book, u get 50k alchemy time or more easily

[bright current]

Stinger gang

[opaque sun]

effectively poisoning only bubo that uses staff is going to be slow

[cosmic tendon]

I do some ccs but not a giving overnight yet

Active

[bold quiver]

oh yeah play like me, still to this day i play bubo 2 , 3 times a day at most

[dreamy merlin]

Should I focus on getting ancients or new artifacts?I have up to blob trade guy unlocked rn

No ancients

[bright current]

Depends how fast u can get to further islands

Can u do it in min time?

[dreamy merlin]

No

Not even close

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah idk what the dynamics will be like once I see 200 tent in action but

[bright current]

Then no

[hollow ledge]

then for now, focus on improving boats and get resources. relics will come on their own time. for now just keep trying to get faster boats

[dreamy merlin]

I'm tempted to try the island that gives the sailing speed and div gain 1 tho bc those seem like they would help alot

[bold quiver]

i just cant feel myself playing bubo for a long time tho, but i can get 350k alchemy time every 16 minutes with cc

[cosmic tendon]

Isnt travel distance to cloud longer than it is to the island?

[dreamy merlin]

Maybe idk

[bold quiver]

same distance

only dif is that u have to make many rounds

[cosmic tendon]

Oh wow I guess I just did it dumb

[north juniper]

!guide

[cosmic tendon]

I was unlocking furt island with 12 hr trips on a couple boats

[bright current]

Furt

[cosmic tendon]

But now that I got there and they’re like 4-8

I guess because I upgraded them in the days it took

[bold quiver]

holy sht days?

[north juniper]

Aww bots dead

[cosmic tendon]

Furt book artifact

[bold quiver]

furt

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I really want fury lol

[hollow ledge]

furt

[bright current]

He's gone bankrupt rolling for doot

[cosmic tendon]

Furt is op

[hollow ledge]

rip, welcome to the club bot buddy

[north juniper]

I'm just glad you didn't get banned 🙂

[bright current]

Yet

[cosmic tendon]

I did and it’s not worth

[north juniper]

Hey that's a win.

[cosmic tendon]

Well not all probably half

But it’s been days more and still no fury

[bold quiver]

i got fury with 1 boat, cuz that was the only one that could go 2h trips. I gotta care for my tripulation, i aint putting them through long travels without food!

[hollow ledge]

been hunting eldritch fury for nigh on 1 month now

feelsbadman

[hollow wasp]

Wait. So is good to put spare points in every div thing?

[cosmic tendon]

Feels like I could’ve been in the same spot with faster ships by now

[cosmic tendon]

They scale fast but all the blessings are worth upgrading

[hollow wasp]

Nice

[bright current]

Took me like 3 weeks to get normal. When i tried to get it eldritch,. Got it in like 2 days lol

[hollow wasp]

• count for every char?

[cosmic tendon]

Don’t blow a gaming upgrade worth of bits on 3% div

[north juniper]

Except atoms for tuskmonstergod.

Unless you have an abundance of atoms

[hollow ledge]

lucky. i got basic after like 1 week, then ancient after about 2 weeks. still searching for eldrich :(

[bright current]

[bold quiver]

why does this take so long dude

[cosmic tendon]

So maybe I’m not doing bad with my treacherous trips to furt island, yet

[bright current]

Furt

[hollow ledge]

furt

[bold quiver]

furt

[hollow ledge]

what lvl are your fellas?

[cosmic tendon]

Wow I have the setup and similar levels

[hollow ledge]

youre probably close to being able to get 6th slot soon

[bold quiver]

power doesnt matter for pet arena, u can beat everything with right comp AKA monolithic lol

[hollow ledge]

yeah its mostly rng bth

[cosmic tendon]

Don’t think I went that far on lineups

[bold quiver]

its not rng, u just time shield and win

but it can be rng if u have the willpower to keep retrying tho=

[bright current]

Just takes ages

[bold quiver]

????????????? what

[hollow ledge]

thats what i meant tbh

[inland gyro]

If u use a looter there’s anyways a chance it can curse ur attacks and kill you

[bold quiver]

only if u have alchemic unlocked

[hollow ledge]

once you have mono-->looter roll going, its basically a guarenteed win unless you get SUPER unlucky

[raven fog]

Well guys i just rushed eldrich fury any tips to faem books ?

[modern plaza]

yeah dont unlock alchemic until you finish 200 and al pet battles lol

[raven fog]

But it’s still possible i did it

[modern plaza]

then u unlock alchemic to get converter for spice collection

[modern plaza]

absolutely true true

[zinc torrent]

@hollow ledge what do you mean? Should i stop using looter for spice battles?

[bold quiver]

pick whatever u want

[cosmic tendon]

I’m using same setup and I can’t beat crystal caverns lol

[bright current]

Is it? Shit i shud farm

[raven fog]

I mean i want more books to max my characters talents

The important ones at least

I get around 20-30a day

[inland gyro]

You can still do it with alchemic unlocked u just have to put the looter further forward and let it die then Let your tank and dps and refiller finish it off. Just takes longer

[bold quiver]

get more checkout speed then

only way to get more books

[raven fog]

Well guys ig the only thing left to get more max book is a companion so i can forget it for now

[bold quiver]

already did 1000 checkouts?

[modern plaza]

yeah... i 5 manned round 200... went from round 100 straight to round 200 lol...

[hollow ledge]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084967526955499600 this is the general layout your should use for battles/arena

[raven fog]

Yah like a year ago

[bold quiver]

holy gg then, just chill with yor books

[raven fog]

I have now 245 as my max

[modern plaza]

then you're maxed

ur game gonna start breaking now 😄

[raven fog]

Well not rlly

There is a companion

[bold quiver]

doesnt change the cap, its only extra levels

[raven fog]

I need a while to max them talents

I am thinking vman first

[modern plaza]

so we still can't get 250 talent point lvl on Vman's ultimate skill lol...

[bright current]

Rift frem doesn't add any book levels, he cant read, hes a slug

[raven fog]

You can woth companion are u guys ignoring them

That’s smart

Forget they are there so they are not

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-learning-gif-14395199

[modern plaza]

lol why you trolling you still can't

[bright current]

Bro i cant even understand what he's tryna say

[modern plaza]

[raven fog]

😂

[grim lion]

What does it do

[raven fog]

U get a second god

[modern plaza]

oh it gives you more div points

[grim lion]

is worth upgrade this?

[modern plaza]

mehh... do u have doot?

[grim lion]

no

[modern plaza]

then yes, set it on the boss you want, but don't worry about maxing it out unless you have extra points

[grim lion]

ty

[raven fog]

Guys how can a crystal chance go from 1in60 to 1in66

[opaque sun]

like many ways

[calm knoll]

If you are not a 🐳 this is the reason why people swapped from 2 bubo to 2 es its a really good talent, you dont need more than 10 points in it as within 10 you can get all gods

[raven fog]

Well it aint card shrines or talent soo

My dk trolling

Does the map matter?

[opaque sun]

cards, star talent got reset, chiz card got upgraded, upgraded crystallin, etc

Also like po box

[raven fog]

No but it went higher not lower

[opaque sun]

Map matters for shrine if you still dont have moai artifact

[raven fog]

Ok nvm

[modern plaza]

i killed the new boss 10 times just to get 1 card, nice

[raven fog]

IE is tripping

Now

It’s 1in52

[opaque sun]

like maybe you got a new level with shrine

[raven fog]

IE

[opaque sun]

There are many things that you might have missed to affect crystal chance

[raven fog]

Thx bro

Max orb is 260 something roght?

[modern plaza]

ok im ready for a 75k+ nugget

[lapis mesa]

arent we all

[modern plaza]

i've been working so hard at work, just give it to me comon

[zinc torrent]

I have big troubles timing shields, but putting burger in frontline helped alot, killed the worm too, tomorrow gonna try next territory fight

[placid mural]

for vman portal run mat sampling, DR keychain and wings or afk gain keychain and wings?

[opaque sun]

dr doesnt do anything for sampling, only affects real drops

[placid mural]

gotcha so multikill and afk gain all the way then

[opaque sun]

you want to use either fight afk keychain or respawn keychain

Respawn is also effectively like a fight afk gain

Afk gain, respawn and multikill (per tier). Kill per kill types of kills (lab, nobisect, green bubble) doesnt affect samples sadly, but helps opens portals

For void sampling you want to use snake god over nobi, assuming you can get the boss kills without the help from nobi

[tiny laurel]

Its nice how theres some leeway to the ‘have exact X in chest’ I can get achievements I thought I couldn’t get anymore

[zealous niche]

Split stack and make a new pile in storage

[opaque sun]

its way easier now that you can split like say 100m at once to your inventory

[modern plaza]

omg what no way!!! lol

[modern plaza]

atom collider helped a lot too

[vestal yew]

anyone having a bug with king doot? I unlocked my 10th character after unlocking king doot, and he doesnt seem to be getting some of the divinities

[modern plaza]

need div lvl 2

[vestal yew]

oh lmao

thanks

[tiny laurel]

Does drop rate effect event boss drops. Or are the drop rates top left the lowest DR

[dapper prism]

Pretty sure its fixed tbh as bad as the DR is

But might be wrong. Definetely feels/seems like DK orb doesnt affect it.

[dapper prism]

Speaking of random events, on a random note, they have a full schedule on toolbox: https://idleontoolbox.com/account/random-events?c=squire&b=4
https://i.imgur.com/Zq80eOs.png

[lapis elm]

Getting hundreds of orb stacks on a near max Dr dk just to get a balloon and 3 gold food tickets sure feels right

[dreamy merlin]

how useful is squirrel in gaming

[dapper prism]

Pretty good for both plant value and plant speed

Honestly all imports are pretty good

at least its not rng related like nugget or snail

[dreamy merlin]

Ye i got shovel yesterday which is amazing

[kindred rover]

What's the cap on Grind Time? (Giant bouble for EXP)

[dreamy merlin]

yes

[dapper prism]

None

[kindred rover]

I have heard about cap on 90% on most of the things in alchemy so I was wondering...

[dapper prism]

List of cap is in #1084911530417606656

[dreamy merlin]

ppl get grind time in the thousands of lvls

for insane xp

[dapper prism]

Took me 1 day to get GT from 2.5k to 3.7k to prove a point to someone, and that wasnt even fully active

[raven fog]

https://oka_2004.idleonefficiency.com/ how is my alchmy guys

[dapper prism]

a lot is lower than 90 btw
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087501872002256966/1087501872149049364/image.png

[dusty garden]

Can anyone explain to me this one? I can't find any difference when i achieved it!

[dreamy merlin]

cards have another lvl

[dapper prism]

Idk but why 60 book count................................ 👀

[dapper prism]

simple, u can now get your cards 1 level higher, to red (5* or level 6)
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards

[dusty garden]

But i still can't upgrade any and no extra stats found to be gained

[kindred rover]

Aaand. Does anyone have calculator for the shovel? I can't find any better nugget since a month and I wanna know just how unlucky I am...

[dreamy merlin]

4 star cards can become 5 star,thats it

[dapper prism]

Because tier 1-4 is like 100 cards on some, then tier 5 is 2-5k cards

[kindred rover]

Especially when I can't even get last two plants...

[dreamy merlin]

reload map or smth

[dapper prism]

Was shut down. For plants, kitsune turned on? and always attempt muta early, dont hoard genes

[kindred rover]

Shame. Yep. I'm doing that. Usually I'm doing 0.3-0.5%

[raven fog]

wdym

glitch probably

[dapper prism]

oh its becuase you didnt update it since 6/26? or ie is having a delay in updating

[raven fog]

i updates it now

weird

i just did lmao

[dapper prism]

As said, or IE has a delay, happens

[raven fog]

u made it this far without knowing what it does

[raven fog]

do u have all eldrich aryifact

?

[dapper prism]

Nope, but soon hopefully
https://i.imgur.com/1O5ohJq.png

[raven fog]

nice

[dapper prism]

5 days left until i hit my 4 month mark, was hoping to get it before then

[opaque void]

I need 1 million citringes kills but I only do like 1000 per hour. Should I just go and wait a few days until it's done or can I spend the time better?

[raven fog]

artifact are big

[dapper prism]

Those last three arnt 😄

[raven fog]

yes

try to do easier tasks

[dapper prism]

Eh, if your kph is that low you are probably missing some account wide buffs imo

[raven fog]

whats there odds

0.001

[gentle furnace]

Smallest odd is 0.01

[dapper prism]

It's never that low, always 0.01+

[opaque void]

Do you mean the taskboard?

[raven fog]

no like account tasks

[raven fog]

like idk boost ur acc in general

[opaque void]

Maybe probably. Where can I verify those? Is there some kind of list to review?

[raven fog]

imagine

streemer luck

[dapper prism]

Just look at your IE page by page, and upgrade stuff

[raven fog]

or do like a thing that is achivable with in a week

or tow

green stacks or dk farming

[dapper prism]

I could probably get them:
https://i.imgur.com/9G5u9cg.png

[raven fog]

are good

[raven fog]

what r u waiting for

use em

[dapper prism]

No point, ive already been lucky af with eldritch

Why waste them if there may be a better use some day for those. last 3 wont affect me much at all

[dapper prism]

Look at these date stamps:
https://i.imgur.com/JOlFFVB.png

[raven fog]

nice

[worthy skiff]

Did my first NM Kattle today w/ 20B dmg and x7.15 DR and got shit loot. Not sure why expected otherwise tbh

[dapper prism]

That DR sounds pretty low for that dmg tbh

[dapper prism]

At deleted image, yes, 5* cards require a ton of cards as mentioned earlier.

[dusty garden]

32k to upgrade the card?

[raven fog]

yah u using every card and all

[raven fog]

no way

alot

[dapper prism]

See requirements here:
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards

[dusty garden]

It needs my whole life to have it!

[opaque sun]

if you farmed citringes card, you can do it

[dapper prism]

Focus on the lower tier ones first that require 10x less and are more common

[worthy skiff]

I can probably get better DR with cards and stuff, I went in with damage cards to guarantee killing the moles. Too much running around (on SB btw). I will try on DK next but it's lacking a bit of dmg right now

[worthy skiff]

not really just focused on damage to be on the safe side

[dapper prism]

can't u swap cards to DR right before boss dies btw?

[cyan sorrel]

If I have doot does the bear divinity major buff count towards the goats?

[worthy skiff]

I should have

[opaque sun]

For boss cards, you can enter as card drop rate, then switch to dr cards

[gentle furnace]

different thing

[dapper prism]

Even with ES, you cant bear/goat for divinity. Have to be active inside lab for goat to work on div

[kindred rover]

I can imagine people collecting bobjoepickle vial for a few years and then lava introduces in W6 or in W7 upgrade "infinite shops" XD

[opaque sun]

goat needs physical presence in lab to work

[dapper prism]

but can u enter with car chance, then dmg during fight then DR in the last 10-5% ?

[cyan sorrel]

Ahh ok Ty was a bit confused on if I was missing out on exp gains

[opaque sun]

if you can manage to pull that off yes

By the way im not sure why you are replying to me

The citrenges thing was a response to the biggole mole thing

[dapper prism]

REMINDER on everyone still low on Rift.
Get your 100m superchow on BB. the HP scaling is. With 200b dmg im only hitting 600k kph, no more mk.
https://i.imgur.com/jN5eaGH.png

[opaque sun]

Its still better than doing manually combusting solo mimic

[dapper prism]

Because you know stuff, so just checking!

kills per hour and multi kill

Should know that in w5 👀

[kindred rover]

What's the best map for exp farming bubo?

[cyan sorrel]

My bad realized right after I sent it, I’ve been drinking a bit 😅

[kindred rover]

citringes?

[dapper prism]

highest map if possible, max crystal rate as they will give you the xp

[kindred rover]

Then I should push past the OJ bay I guess

[dapper prism]

Believe i had around 1k GT at the time or probably less?
My bubo went from level 300 to 352 in 4h 8mins active (offline would have been 35 days). Active bubo = best xp

https://i.imgur.com/spn5mfS.png

[modern plaza]

started at 11:15 for pen collection. they’re already rolling in wow. dk at 7x DR and all cards for crystals… only 4* tho bc ruby a bit aways… orb at 260, so 2 sec of downtime lol

[dapper prism]

Can switch out stats/dmg for another active exp probably, all depends on dmg.

[modern plaza]

lol i literally was making a post on crystal farming and you flex right b4 oof

[dapper prism]

Gotta mention your pen rate! 😉

[modern plaza]

we’ll see when i wake up lil

[kindred rover]

I have GT on only 207 since I have started cc last week, but my bubo has already 394. I want him to have 450 and proceed to the next character

[dapper prism]

Just be sure to setup your knight statues!

[kindred rover]

Close enough

[dapper prism]

Poop and moon switch, crystal rate = your xp (if you have the card doublers)

[kindred rover]

Not yet

[dapper prism]

still worth just setting up for if/when you get it

[kindred rover]

Ye. I see that it's on the next week. Should start printing krakens then

[dapper prism]

Oh ty for the reminder

[opaque sun]

Better put flies/event ghost than those generic exp cards

[modern plaza]

jesus lol… looks like im only at about 8 in 15min. so maybe 30/hr. we’ll see haha…

[dapper prism]

yes, active exp cards multiply on base xp or something.
Base xp is somewhat trash as it's additive

[dapper prism]

Bloodbones?

[modern plaza]

yee

[kindred rover]

Oh right. That's +2% exp XD

[dapper prism]

If u have 225+ max talent be sure to have vman eclipse on 225 for the +20s dk knight statue timer. helps a lot

[kindred rover]

With passive skill cards I should try to platinum em XD

Welp. I'll do it before the next sampling

[dapper prism]

It gets pretty easy when you max ur card chance rate on maestro/vman

[kindred rover]

I have recently got +55 max lvls in library so I should go for the higher level of this skill and start collecting em

[modern plaza]

i dont yet 😦

need edrich fury luck not there yet haha

its ight i’ll take 200 for a good nights rest lol

[dapper prism]

Night night!

[modern plaza]

it will get better in due time

[kindred rover]

Hmmm... what's better? 12%exp or 12% total dmg?

[dapper prism]

Depends on for what/where

[modern plaza]

want to max the gaming and sailing PO boxes pronto

[kindred rover]

Bubo pursuing next maps

[opaque sun]

like damage doesnt do anything if you are one shotting it regardless of it

[kindred rover]

And I am far from one shotting em with poison. If you're talking about aura that's a a different matter

[dapper prism]

Lampar has 600m hp, so def. not 1 shotting them atm.

[opaque sun]

if by having damage card to one shot, that definitely changes things

But at that point seems like you either want to go full damage to push, or fall back to a better map like oj to focus on exp

[ancient mirage]

wouldn't he be one shot them at 416m since he's crit chance and crit mult are high enough

[kindred rover]

That's why I was asking... If I can't one shot em, should I go back to OJ then?

[dapper prism]

gas is like 10% dmg

[coarse parrot]

My pets vanished from my account when I logged into mobile, is this just a temporary issue that’ll get fixed when I log back into Steam?

[dapper prism]

depends, personally i would just focus on pushing then, full dmg, push towards wurms, bubo needs to get there anyways. XP on others is also semi-irrelevant

[kindred rover]

I deal 100-400M with poison

[worthy shoal]

Probably.
You are currently experiencing a version difference mismatch

[opaque sun]

known iOS issue

[summer folio]

anyone know why on my bubo the lab isn't active like it is on my other charaters?

[opaque sun]

Should be okay if you go back to steam

[opaque sun]

maybe the order of super tubes disconnected the first guy closest to the prism. Check the actual connection

[summer folio]

it should be active with the Doot buff

[opaque sun]

As in, like your connection range might have changed

If your first line width got short, everyone else’s gets disconnected

And as to “why isnt my guys having arctis effect when i have doot” might be like are they all at least div lv 2 or something

[summer folio]

but they are active on every other charater

[opaque sun]

If you have the super tube upgrade from gem shop, the line width of certain characters may shift depending on which character you are active on

And when certain character’s line width gets short, you might being disconnected due to that

[summer folio]

I get at what you're saying but thats not what is happening

[hollow wasp]

Is this a good Keychain?

[opaque sun]

The red cross means they are not getting the arctis effect

So either you found a way to brick doot effect, or have not met the requirements to apply doot on each character (like div levels and/or touching the altar)

[opaque sun]

mediocre to poor, but if you dont have anything else

[summer folio]

XD its been buging me because its only on the bubo that this is hapening on my other 9 its lit up

[dapper prism]

Ive heard both either lvl 2 or 3 for div for doot to work

That screenshot shows 2 people though with the offline symbol

[cedar spoke]

theres two

[summer folio]

let me show another charaters lab inside

[cedar spoke]

speaking of pets not working

the storage in quick ref one

[modest warren]

whats the mining speed cap or is it not possible to reach

[summer folio]

didn't change anything just switched charaters

[fleet mural]

Are you on mobile?

[summer folio]

PC

[fleet mural]

Never mind

[opaque sun]

touch altar with the bubo or something maybe

something on that bubo is registering as dootless

[stiff geyser]

about how much damage does nightmare level kattlekruk heal for per mole?

[summer folio]

XD maybe going to try real quick

[opaque sun]

Heals maybe like 5% of hp or so

[strong pendant]

i miss tony.....

[summer folio]

XD goes and crawls into corner

[opaque sun]

That is certainly an issue

Get it to lv2 as we been saying

[summer folio]

wasn't to clear to check the div level on the bubo XD

almost finished Chowing W1

[crisp silo]

We all do

[summer folio]

back to trying to slaughter Molties

[fallen jacinth]

wait idk how this growth state work lmao

like there a random chance for it's to growth to a next stage and unlocked it or that i need to do something for them to unlocked for the next stage

[crisp silo]

Rng

[dreamy merlin]

and some requirmetns

[crisp silo]

Oh yeq superbit

[dreamy merlin]

base is lvl 4 max,super bits upgrade it to 6 i think,or 7 idk

[fallen jacinth]

oh so this 1 right ?

[crisp silo]

Multiple of that 1

[fallen jacinth]

and 1 more in the right side ?

[crisp silo]

Yea they spread out

[fallen jacinth]

oh okay just checked

so that one

and the 300M red bit one

[proven roost]

whats the best class to use candies on, or is it jsut who has the most damage

[ancient quail]

Does chaotic effaunt card help for divinity?

[proven roost]

no

from what i know only cards that say they directly help divinity are the only ones that actually help divinity

[ancient quail]

Thanks

[worn sonnet]

Biggie does help

[muted sandal]

Do the minor bonuses from Div link change based on each character's personal div level?

[unkempt arch]

does 101% larry give 1% for +3?

[brazen hound]

does it matter which character picks the flowers in gaming in w5?

or should I always log in DK to do it

[vapid wraith]

dk bit gained buff is for all characters. gotta be on the right preset tho. Might be a skill effciency thing with strength, but if there is I haven't noticed.

[brazen hound]

so If I put my DK with correct skill preset in lab, anyone can pick the flowers and get the DK buff?

[opaque sun]

it somewhat matters who you active on for the gaming speed (plant growth) due to div level affecting purrmep’s minor link effect, but else doesnt matter who you harvest it with

Not like you will notice the difference of 5% speed from minor link tho

[dreamy spruce]

Got to w5 yesterday and got first god, but for some reason doot only works on half my characters? anybody heard of an issue like that before?

[opaque sun]

Active char need div lv2 to apply doot to family

[dreamy spruce]

Ah I see, thanks!

[opaque sun]

When you switch to someone with div level 1, it disables doot on everyone

[graceful pilot]

how can i make this +15 ?

i mean +15 talent. level 100 divinity ?

[opaque sun]

Around like div level 100 and big p of 700

More div levels, can make it with less big p and vice versa

[sweet mountain]

Noticed something strange right now. My Vman can go all the way to the boss map of W5. Funny thing is, I didn't did this myself. There is no way I would leave a character that only has 5K kills per hour AFK to get there, and he is also only level 219. Could this be a bug related to speedruning? Maybe the mode unlocked all regular version of maps?

[opaque sun]

Known feature of vman uses portal of most progressed char

This is because speed run shares the same portal count as normal portal, and each speed run resets it. So its lava’s way to compensate the kill reset on vman

That is also why vman gets like 2m kills on his kill count on mobs

[sweet mountain]

Oh, I see. Never noticed that. This chars was always mostly farming skills til now.

[iron ravine]

Did it with around the same dmg, whip and coin the moles

[opaque sun]

Get 200b damage to just outdamage it, or manually control to kill moles both sides and chip away at boss

[graceful pilot]

ok thanks

[tacit tulip]

Been 245-ing vman books to squeeze extra damage out of him in preparation 😄

[regal cloak]

is there a way to see all things that increase drop chance in IE? or is there a stat sheet for us somewhere?

[tacit tulip]

Idleon insight searching for "drop" would probably give you a fairly comprehensive list

[opaque sun]

also there might be an image list somewhere that lists of dr and the practical max reachable dr. But dont think anyone updated it with kattle gears

[lyric sequoia]

Look at you bragging about your eldritch fury

Several months into nothing but fury chests and that thing still hasn’t popped

[narrow cloak]

and if vman was the most progressed char does he get the portals back after the speedrun?

[balmy solstice]

Just wanted a rift slug

2nd boot boi

[vapid wraith]

will trade bean 4 doot

[solid haven]

how soon do ya'll think w6 will be? 2-3 months? Less or more?

[dense eagle]

there is dr chart somewhere?

[peak bane]

3

7

[dim burrow]

is this the highest possible

[vapid wraith]

wiki says yes

[opaque sun]

When he speedruns, it rests progress so he basically can never be most progressed

[narrow cloak]

so if i have portals open on vman that none of the other characters do, i will lose those portals?

[opaque sun]

basically yes

[narrow cloak]

that's kinda dumb

[opaque sun]

And loses all kills that the vman made

[proper horizon]

What are the best special talents to have on an active ES (level 300) for Hampter farming.
So far I have
-Beginner best class
-Will of the Eldest
-Attack on simmer(for when they afk)
-Hemoglobin
-1 pt in telekinetic storage
-Samplin
-Dungeonic Damage
-Mega Crit
-Tiptoe(the least points)
-Ubercharged HP
-Coins for Charon
-Stat overload

Am I missing any important ones and should I put points in tipto before Ubercharged?

[opaque sun]

not many push with a vman first

[raven fog]

Is 50 speedrun portals good ?

[opaque sun]

for hampter farming, star talents doesnt matter much

Hemo to not to die, and maybe crystal chance for extra sub drops of golden foods

50 is good

[raven fog]

What’s urs

I heard the max is 63

[opaque sun]

Should be able to max the bottom row talents and enhancements

Im around 55

[raven fog]

And i didnt follow any path or anything

[opaque sun]

With rift slug, i can probably do more but havent as there isnt really a talent i need to max

[raven fog]

Yah ofcourse

The speed run one

Huge difent

I was at 40 before eldrich fury

But to be fair i rlly tried this time more than last time

[grand karma]

topbird you have all the good companions?

[magic fjord]

Ancient Artifact seems to be showing for me as available for purchase in the gem shop, even though I've already got all the ancient artifacts. I assume it doesn't give Eldritch?

[worldly bluff]

How often does the xchange guy change in sailing?

[hollow wasp]

Hello guys, if anyone is bored, could u tell me what I should focus on / do next?

https://ilogix.idleonefficiency.com/

[sharp wind]

If i do nightmare on 1st char then i do a second run on my 3rd char will the progress stay 1/10 or back to 0/10?

[opaque sun]

just missing some commons that i can never get

[magic fjord]

Seems that clicking the purchase button doesn't do anything, which answers that.

[opaque sun]

yeah its only for ancient

[oak tartan]

sorry, just made it to w5. Is there no way to quickly teleport to w5 from the map? I have to go to w4 and manually walk?

[pulsar cliff]

You can - Try going to the first mob zone and seeing if it opens up/

[oak tartan]

ah ok let me check

[oak tartan]

that helps!

[pulsar cliff]

Success!

[oak tartan]

oh, all players must walk to the first map. Bit of a pain, but OK 🙂

[pulsar cliff]

Really?? Huh. I don't really remember haha

[oak tartan]

it's not a big deal, just have to do once

[pulsar cliff]

I'm sure it'll bug me when W6 drops lol

[quartz pollen]

Divinity is nice but you should pause it and prioritize this:
-get the last character
-upgrade your skilling bubbles like chopping, mining, fishing, catching etc a lot of times, at least until around lvl 40-60
-farm out the easier mats to farm to upgrade bubbles to 40 and keep unlocking bubbles
-prioritize getting diamond chef bubble so you can kickstart your cooking
-farm the mats for stamps, you need at least 2k overall in levels

[warm beacon]

Weird never heard of that or had it happen

[upbeat trout]

so starting from lustra gear it seems like you cant skip boss gears if you want to progress

[hollow wasp]

Thank you sir. With bubbles I always struggle with liquid.

[pulsar cliff]

Bubo is your best fried.

Friend^

[quartz pollen]

what he said, juice up your bubo

[gaunt island]

current bestie is magma, which comes from ungodly amounts of sfire/dreadlo and nullo + troll

[reef bough]

Hi i have 2 vman how the buff will work to all char

[wet hatch]

Is there something I have to do to get the slab to work? Is missing quest rewards I just did but have already sold

[umbral dust]

are these crystal mobs from W5?

[west slate]

Which bubble is the diamond chef bubble? I thought i got all bubbles but i guess not lol

[livid raft]

This is Diamond chef, looks like a cooks hat

[west slate]

Oooh that one. I don't know why I was thinking it was a new one

Thx

[pulsar cliff]

yup

[bold quiver]

soon guys, soon

[umbral dust]

thanks. they wreck me and they wreck me hard

[gaunt island]

the worst is when you log in in the morning and 4+ of those mfs spawn on top of u xD and ure on ur neglected little guy with 1500 def

[pulsar cliff]

Hahaha yeah I'd recommend having some food around if it'll help.

[hollow wasp]

Ye gotta work with him

[umbral dust]

nah I just reached w5 and I still have mostly dementia armor

only just got void helm

[vernal depot]

Hey guys, is the Kattlekruk's trophy quest one of those quests that take away from you the requested items(scarf and cape) or does it leave them to you when collecting the reward? + Is that a once-per-account, or a once-per character quest?

[pulsar cliff]

Once per character, does not consume.

[quartz pollen]

man that lvl requirement sucks, I don't even have choco chip yet

[vernal depot]

thanks

[pulsar cliff]

Honestly 450 ain't bad by the time you can camp tremor wurms hard? Some active EXP cards and you're good.

[runic jay]

anyone having issues with Apocalypse Chow? mine reset to 0.

[pulsar cliff]

Kattle needs to drop his stupid necklace.

[west slate]

Is anyone want to help me figure out what is going on with my damage on my ES?
Day before yesterday I finally got it to 400 million damage. When I looked in the next day it was at 305 million I did not change anything I was AFK!
Ahhh!

This happened to me twice now

Finally got back up to 395 million but it'll probably disappear again it's weird

[pulsar cliff]

Mine looks normal

[runic jay]

hmmm

[hybrid halo]

Do you have the points in your Vmans talent?

[runic jay]

yes

[west slate]

Yup its gone down again.

[pulsar cliff]

Is it the superchow that reset to 0? Or Base

[bold quiver]

true, i never had any trouble with level requirements until this update D: hit me hard

[runic jay]

sorry superchow reset to 0

[pulsar cliff]

Do you have two BBs?

[runic jay]

yes

[pulsar cliff]

Check the second one

[bold quiver]

only works on second bb

[runic jay]

oh my

is there a fix?

[pulsar cliff]

Do your super chows on your second BB is so far the only fix.

[sick sentinel]

Its annoying but you can class swap your 2nd bb

[west slate]

Thanks for looking I guess

[bold quiver]

no fix ;[

[runic jay]

rip all the candies awhile ago lol

[bold quiver]

oh no, u didnt check

[pulsar cliff]

Did the same thing chief.

Was part way through W2 before I was like ' I wanna see how crazy the difference is now '

[livid raft]

So for mega crits we just want to have 200% crit chance all the time right?

[pulsar cliff]

And then just cried.

[runic jay]

UHH

lol

[pulsar cliff]

Did you run out of food that adds to dmg at all?

[hybrid halo]

Change your second BB, you don’t need 2.

[livid raft]

Stuck at rfit 34.. one day soon maybe 😒

[runic jay]

i only made it bb to do achievement lol

10th player kill

easy mode

😦

already have 2 dks

[sick sentinel]

Oof

[hybrid halo]

I had 2 BB but changed the second to DK.

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/ecff833b6b33bd75d1763d9e04da3e43.png

We getting there

[vernal depot]

hey guys, about the "super chows" bonus that voidwalker gives to the apocalypse chow talent:

if my BBs are active fighting (not in cooking), i still need to invest at least 1 point into Apocalypse Chow to activate the bonus on cooking speed right?

• since BB is fighting and the SuperChow's bonus isn't dependent on the Apocalypse Chow talent level, investing only 1 talent point is best right?

• because I have 2 BBs: do the 2 SuperChow's bonusses add up? do they multiply? or is only the bigger one taken?

[twilit goblet]

If i have 100 PO box, most characters unupgraded, is it worth dumping them all into drop rate for DK for eventual dice farming?

or drop rate for ES
or alc for bubo cranium

Just wondering if civil war boxes are the way to go or base dmg is not so useful at this stage.

alternatively maybe into fishing to see if i can print more krakens

[vapid wraith]

Get dk to orb kill slush miniboss, you have a 6 stack.

[empty glade]

I dont think its about the base damage, more liké for the afk kill

[vapid wraith]

yep, fighting afk gain rate

[twilit goblet]

hmm maybe into barb since he is chowing now then? since im leaving most ppl in labs/div with ES active, bubo afk and barb chowing

[tight ridge]

which one is better?

[gaunt island]

both are bit meh 😮 kinda in the same boat tonight, all captns procc'd like that

use one of them to get an achi xD aka hire => delet

[opaque sun]

if not making ladles, yeah you only need one point in chow.

if you have 2 bb, it only counts super chow for the 2nd bb (order of character selection). 1st bb super chow kill will remain 0 until 2nd bb swaps to dk

[tight ridge]

these are the type of captains i get atm

i got the achievement accidentally now already xD

[hollow wasp]

My dk is lvl 70 or so

[vapid wraith]

right

[honest timber]

I'm having some problems understanding the design ideas behind the w5 boss. Am I missing anything?

[bold quiver]

slush is w3 boss, u should be able to kill it easily

[worthy shoal]

w3 miniboss

[bold quiver]

what are u having doubts with

[pure spindle]

^^

[bold quiver]

its a lazy boss, it doesnt do anything besides soaking dmg

[honest timber]

Is it bugged? It's a punching bag with moles

[pure spindle]

Ah

Correct

[bold quiver]

u are just weak

[pure spindle]

No not bugged correct

Jsut a lil lazy

[opaque sun]

you will appreciate it later that its not like efaunt

[honest timber]

Why?

[bold quiver]

i wish this boss had one shoting mechanics, so sad

[sharp wind]

If i do nightmare on 1st char then i do a second run on my 3rd char will the progress stay 1/10 or back to 0/10?

[pure spindle]

Lol i remember dying to efaunt gun back in w2 like 3 times

That 100% movement soeed went crazy

[bold quiver]

1/10

[sharp wind]

thanks

[opaque sun]

would you prefer to do efaunt like fight for 1000 times to farm cape?

[honest timber]

I mean true, nightmare is taking me quite a bit of time. I thought he'd do more than normal/chaotic

[gaunt island]

gotta get dat efficiency hell yeah

[bold quiver]

i think only amarok did something different with increased difficulty right?

[pure spindle]

Well technically kruk does

[honest timber]

The others die immediately, so I never got a chance to see if it was anything of interest 😛

[sharp wind]

efaunt had more hands on chaotic tho?

[bold quiver]

6 hands

[pure spindle]

Frel efaunt had another attack

[sharp wind]

or maybe im wrong haha

[pure spindle]

Not more hands but a new attack

[honest timber]

Why would it bother me to kill Efaunt? It takes one ES bolt

[wide tree]

legs

[opaque sun]

In the long span, boss fights are just a matter of spending keys, you would have cursed and complained at lava if he added some wonky mechanic

[pure spindle]

Yeah the legs youre right

[bold quiver]

u cant recharge cooldown fast enough for 2 runs D:

[gaunt island]

looks at troll in 3m dps

[bold quiver]

i wish he had added =/

[hollow wasp]

But dk for droprate, no? He is super low lvl

[opaque sun]

That is what im saying. Appreciate that lava made kattle fights end simple

[honest timber]

Huh? Loot takes long enough to spawn for cd to be back up 😛

[honest timber]

That's not what you're saying though. I'm saying efaunt is just as simple at our level

[bold quiver]

@opaque sun he could do something like Troll. U need to either kill it on nightmare a few times or so to remove the one shoting/hp phases mechanic that makes it difficult

[opaque sun]

It still takes more seconds than other boss

[bold quiver]

efaunt is the worst, takes almost 20 seconds per run

[pure spindle]

I think its from second task in his list

[opaque sun]

And you do realize kattle cape quest needs to be done on all characters

[pure spindle]

Couldve done that here as well tbf

[bold quiver]

So far kattle boss is the fastest, 10 seconds per run

[honest timber]

And what's the problem with that? I care more about a couple of fun mechanics and design rather than the endgame boss doing "nothing"

[pure spindle]

But the speedrunning if kruk is a beauty

Key dump

[bold quiver]

its a surprise because chizoar is only 11 seconds, thougt it would be faster

[opaque sun]

Or do you prefer lava spend more hours making wonky gimmick and low effort in other stuff?

[bold quiver]

Dude its a world boss............. It should have difficult mechanics

[pure spindle]

Should at least attack you lol

[bold quiver]

and not being just a dps check

[honest timber]

You seriously think doing literally anything else than "trillions of hp punching bag" would take substantial amount of time away and cause other game content to go into the shitter?

[opaque sun]

lava? Yes

[honest timber]

Weird priorities man. I like threatening bosses. Troll is pretty perfect with being trivialized by the skip later

[opaque sun]

he has poor effort management

[honest timber]

Insert meme about how much doot made him. Pretty solid effort/revenue ratio 😛

[bold quiver]

i want one shotting, dodging, hp phases (so u cant one shot) boss mechanics , at least as some 1st kill requirement to unlock new world

https://tenor.com/view/meiling-hong-meiling-touhou-2hu-table-gif-21822171

[opaque sun]

i think i heard more people complain how troll and efaunt boss fights being tedious to repeat keys than being fun

[bold quiver]

im afraid lava will never add a boss skip button '.'

there should be an achievement like " after 10k boss kills u unlock boss skip"

[opaque sun]

Lava having to add penetrate shield on troll kind of shows how people just want it to be a quick fight

[bold quiver]

that is the point. we want 1 good decent fight, and then just farm material

[honest timber]

There are two phases to killing the bosses. First to overcome the fucker to unlock something and progress. Then to farm. It's great design for the first to be hard, and the second to be made efficient once it has no way of posing a challenge for you anymore.

[opaque sun]

if he can do that, yes that ideal

[raven fog]

For ?

U canve the trophy with one

[opaque sun]

But if its a choice of pushover or efaunt like gmmick, i prefer the former

[opaque sun]

But that only gets one trophy

[honest timber]

Efaunt barely has a gimmick, it dies to a bolt - almost as fast. Like, it's not really an issue.

[bold quiver]

true u can have trophy on 1 character =/ take mine

Guys and remember, u need to be at lvl 425 onthe character that dropped the trophy to craft it '.'

[opaque sun]

But that limits to using ES

[raven fog]

I feel the game is going from afk to active to afk and active

Balance

[bold quiver]

so mke sure not to drop that on some random bad character lol

[opaque sun]

and wasnt until recently es had chainbolt

Maybe interesting fight if evenly matched, but else just obnoxious

[bold quiver]

what is chainbolt that got added to ES?

that purple skill has always been with him if thats what u are refering to

[opaque sun]

as in we didnt have chainbolt when efaunt arrived

[bold quiver]

oh gotcha

efaunt boss is not that slow, it only seems too slow

[honest timber]

What's the problem with one job having a benefit to kill speed? Like again, this is just decent design. Way better than whatever kattle is.

[opaque sun]

like we had to wait like 2-3 years to finally make the fight bearable

[bold quiver]

@opaque sun i think the worst problem with efaunt battle is that the auto targeting is so off kkkkkkkkkkk

[ashen prawn]

Does anyone have the problem that you lose all of the portal progress you made in w5 from starting a voidwalker run? I keep being reset to sluggmas when i do a run

[opaque sun]

And kattle quest is designed to do on each character

[honest timber]

I literally thought the w5 boss was bugged, that's not a good look 😛

[vernal depot]

hey guys, what's a quick way to check the "super chow" progression? (talking about the "voidwalker upgraded talent", not talking about regular zow or chow, those are easy to check on IE)

[opaque sun]

One class that can farm easily after 2-3 years of boss addition is really bad imo

[crystal tulip]

I'm trying to use my DK to farm some rare drops, but the orb of remembrance isn't changing my drop rate despite getting 300+. What am I doing wrong?

[bold quiver]

but either way, ES is not that great to farm efaunt also.. It takes too long to recharge chainbolt, So the fact that u are doing faster runs is an actual ilusion

cuz u have to wait for cd to next fight

[opaque sun]

That obnoxious tediousness of 2-3 years vastly makes “fun fight for one time” negligible

[honest timber]

CD is over by the time you get up to oneshot his face after the bolt and loot dropping though

[honest timber]

Sure. Yet none of that would apply to making the w5 boss decent.

[opaque sun]

If lava can make the fight interesting for the first time, and offer qol to spend keys, i agree is the best

[worthy shoal]

You just needed to wait a bit :

A bit ...

[honest timber]

Unless your statement is "well, w2 boss was garbage - so you have to choose between that and what we got for w5". Which I think is a false premise. 😛

[bold quiver]

true

[honest timber]

But I guess the choice was made for w5. Thanks for the reply to my question about it being bugged either way

[opaque sun]

or this might just be a plot twist to w5. Maybe there will be another boss zone in wurm, and its badgur being the true boss and kattle just his sidekick

[bold quiver]

has anyone farmed with SB maxing this out? as in, do u still one shot the plunderous mobs?

[opaque sun]

endgame its easy to one shot max plunder wurms

[crystal tulip]

Depends on your damage max.

[bold quiver]

almost 2T if i go crazy on SB

is that enough?

[crystal tulip]

Yes.😂

[opaque sun]

I mean its basically just a slight tougher crystal

[vernal depot]

what's SB again? last map in W5?

[pulsar cliff]

SiegeBreaker

[bold quiver]

ii havent rly done plunderous kills for a looong time kkkkkkkkk so i was wondering thanks

[brittle dagger]

I have 2 questions.

1. What prayers should I be using?
2. When I get the gaming unlock for 1/5 all prayer, no curses; should I use that instead?

[opaque sun]

crystal mobs are 15x HP of base mob

[stiff prairie]

2. Absolutely not

[bold quiver]

i'll have to get both SB to lvl 425 for the new afk gains necklace, so gonna use that as an excuse to farm some

[pulsar cliff]

2 - nope

[opaque sun]

22x of base mob isnt that hard

[stiff prairie]

1. Royal samplier.

[bold quiver]

Not gnona lie, if u need shiny critters that superbit is very good for BM

that is probably the only real use to that '.'

[stiff prairie]

Royal samplier is not a multiplier. Its additive. And thats actually better

[opaque sun]

And at max its around 70x

[brittle dagger]

I currently use Class/skill exp 10 hour cap and printer prayer 24/7