lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[worthy shoal]

why does tent means max level ?

[opaque sun]

4 sec tent will feel underwhelming compared to the 2sec to 3sec transition

[molten scarab]

225 aura the real mvp

😉

[opaque sun]

Only noticeable thing is like cranium is running almost always

[dreamy merlin]

What?

[gentle furnace]

isnt it 245

[opaque sun]

tent means tenteyecle talent

It does not mean max

[dreamy merlin]

Isn't 245 another aura not 225

[molten scarab]

whatever the jump is before that yeah

[opaque sun]

Get tent 200 means to get tenteyecle talent to 200 as there is a clear breakpoint where the effect reduces 3 seconds instead of the original 2 seconds

[dreamy merlin]

210

[worthy shoal]

Oh, ok, but it does depend of max level. I understand better now. Thanks

[opaque sun]

As long you get effective 200, doesnt matter if its from book levels or total from other bonuses

[worthy shoal]

Getting better max level is always better, except for DK orb.

[opaque sun]

DK orb gets better again after raising it high enough, but until then 270-300 ish kind of loses effective kill counts due to overlap

[dapper prism]

Also remember to hit dk knight statue breakpoints and not waste random points.
breakpoints: 252, 223, 194, 165, 136, 107, 79, 50, 21

This will be very difference once you have vman 225 eclipse as its +20s

[barren otter]

damn didnt even think of that

i booked to 245 both eclipse and statue as soon as i could

[covert sphinx]

should i run crystal mob chance and cookie if im farming kattlekruk keys with dk?

[dapper prism]

bit less keys but a lot more statues ig

[covert sphinx]

i thought maybe it might give mroe keys cos i get more multiplier on the shrine thing

not sure tho

[barren otter]

should be farming it on ES

not on dk

[dapper prism]

Mhm, but you are sacrificing a double DR

[dapper prism]

Sounds like people have been doing DK for the 2 in 1 (getting a ton of statues while doing it)

forgot who mentioned it but their rate seemed nice

[opaque sun]

due to wurms being a good map for dk, and honestly too chonky hp for es to show full potential, dk kind of farms keys better imo

[barren otter]

fair enough

[opaque sun]

Further into w6+, dk is going to be the all time farmer as mobs gets more hp

[barren otter]

ive been meaning to start tremor farming on my dk

since after 1000 keys worth of kattle i havent gotten shit and just gave up

[dreamy merlin]

W6+we will get more damage

[opaque sun]

DK gets around 800-900 orb kills on wurms

Im assuming the mob hp scales harder than damage sources

[brazen hound]

is this a cactus?

[opaque sun]

DK will show consistency until it hits a bad map

And es will be a bad map farming specialist

[worthy shoal]

And BM will be a equipment hoarder sleeping somewhere

[opaque sun]

isnt bad as an afk farmer

Just forget archers doing any form of active

[barren otter]

active SB was great

until i hit 10k plunderous :)

[opaque sun]

Lava keeps buffing BB but funny how his placement in the family hasnt changed a bit after each buff

[dreamy merlin]

Not until it gets a respawn

How would bb respawn even work

[opaque sun]

“Despawns all mobs but one, but that one remaining mob will give X more kills/loot per despawned” duel like mechanic maybe

[glad hamlet]

For the vman questline can I pre-farm the 12m personal green mush kills before I get to the final quest? Or does it only start counting the kills once I start that part of the quest

[covert sphinx]

how to get 800 im almost always at 700 max

[fallen gust]

iirc if you're already above the number of kills, you just need to open the note thing at w3

[opaque sun]

267 orb talent?

[covert sphinx]

269

[dapper prism]

ffs was wondering why im getting so little souls, didnt have vman on skill talents 😦

[opaque sun]

maybe your crystal chance and/or statue enhancement

[covert sphinx]

what is statue enhancement?

[worthy shoal]

Does the overlap not pose problem ?

[covert sphinx]

i dont get what u mean by overlap

[opaque sun]

vman’s knight enhancement to extend the duration of knight

[worthy shoal]

Two orbs at the same time

[covert sphinx]

is that bad?

[opaque sun]

Its a steady 850+ for me, and goes to 900 on a lucky crystal streak

when the first orb of overlapping orbs disappear, it resets the kill counter on 2nd orb

So in total overlap orb wastes like 10 sec worth

[covert sphinx]

so i should drop my lvl of orb to 267?

[open lava]

there isnt any way to reset upgrades right?

[opaque sun]

269 shouldnt be that bad tho

[worthy shoal]

Item upgrades ? No

Don't gamble with kattlekruk stone

[opaque sun]

The overlap loss kind of starts to offset from around lv310+ tho

[open lava]

yea damn kinda messed up used some warped stones surprisingly i got all of em but i see the void stones from w4 are just better

gotta craft another deuscythe now ig

[opaque sun]

Basically orbs around 270-300 kind of dips in its effective duration, and then starts to even out again

[covert sphinx]

i just checked at 269 it feels like it overlaps for like 1 s maybe

[brazen hound]

how did my last boat get a sail? wanna get it for my other ships too

[opaque sun]

Total upgrade levels

Click the info, and the total level reaching certain point makes the aesthetic look better

[narrow cloak]

I was upgrading boat speed and it jumped from like 80 to 130 in one upgrade, does that happen often, that you get a significant jump with only 1 level?

[brazen hound]

probably a breakpoint

[opaque sun]

also kind of depends on what captain in on it

[dapper prism]

loot every 8th, speed every 7th upgrade is a breakpoint, check IE and it shows where/what they are at

[narrow cloak]

ah ok thanks

[brazen hound]

which of these captains' stats are worse. need to delete one

I have no idea if loot value or boat speed is best

[dapper prism]

stats are always Base stat multiplied by level.
So
A = 2% loot
B = 4% Speed
etc.

IE does show the stats too. Early on speed may be slightly more important as it's harder to stay at the 2h limit?

[hollow wasp]

Red Frisbee pls :/

[narrow cloak]

they start dropping when you stop looking for them, i had given up and was afk farming zow and it dropped lmao

[brazen hound]

can captains have diff base stats? so one has 2% loot and then another can have 5% loot at level 1?

[narrow cloak]

yes

[dapper prism]

yes, wiki has the values of it all

[worthy shoal]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[gray schooner]

dk question: do the shockwaves from knightly disciple have the same dmg as your shockwave slash skill?

*and number of targets hit

[opaque sun]

Yes its exactly the same stats of shockwave slash

Also the shockwaves from your normal attacks

[narrow cloak]

lol that table says loot value min is 4 but melvic has one with loot value 2

[opaque sun]

And if your shockwave slash is at lv0, the knight’s shockwaves will simply miss

[brazen hound]

nice system with the captains and tiers and stat ranges. but what about ships? I dont seem to delete them and they all seem to have the same base values?

[gray schooner]

that is cool to know

[narrow cloak]

ships are made of wood so they all have the same base stats

[warm beacon]

Gotta upgrade them

[opaque sun]

all ships scale the same per number of upgrades done. Just using different materials to upgrade

Basically like kitchens

[spice void]

you ever think you have alot of money.... then you start upgrading stamps...

[dreamy merlin]

Fr

[viral snow]

Just ignore them long enough and it will feel like youre rich for a while

[spice void]

im up to 68 god shard coins

[worthy shoal]

Seems like the min is wrong. The max are right anyway.
It is the pinned chart

[spice void]

its... like a debt i dont have to ever pay is looming but.... how badly do i need DNA splicing bonus

also its kinda weird that i swapped my chest and legs to the new boss armor my damage went down...

[raven fog]

noo comment

anyway i am trying to incress breedibilty and i have been stuck on iv for like more than a week is that normal

[opaque sun]

Yes

[raven fog]

how does breadibality work

does it show on ie

[opaque sun]

v, vi and vii takes likes 1 year, 50 years, and 50000 years or so

[viral snow]

That 68 godshard coins more than me

[opaque sun]

Is the reason why people say the breedability achievement is impossible

[worthy shoal]

To get the breedabiliy achievement, you only need almost two years 😄

[raven fog]

so the achivment is hard

so i should stop at v

[worthy shoal]

2 whole years without any shiny upgrade

[opaque sun]

If swimming to the moon is considered hard, yeah its just hard

[opaque sun]

Thats 200000 years more like

[raven fog]

shiny upgrades the speed of regulaer ones ttoo

i thought the days are equal to the one shown for shiny

[opaque sun]

Breedability achievement cant be cleared even if jesus played idleon since his birth

[raven fog]

so 3 days than 33 than 300

[worthy shoal]

No, we did the maths, it is long, but not totally impossible

[raven fog]

i thought am lacking

on something

[gentle pagoda]

am i seeing it correctly that the Legendary Flag achievement is impossible to get?

[ancient mirage]

nah the pet breeding achievement wont take 2 years once lava adds a batch of pets that give all pets share xp or 1000% more multiplicative breeding speed or something like that

[raven fog]

whats the point of it being this hard is it because w6 will have something for it

[opaque sun]

Not sure where this math is from, but it was surely way more than 2 years in the original math

[raven fog]

yah ig

[opaque sun]

The requirement of v, vi and vii scales too exponentially

[raven fog]

what would u guys say is the hardest achivment atm

[opaque sun]

The breedability achievement unless something else was found

[worthy shoal]

One level VII breedability is 450 days from 6 to 7 so you need something like 2 months with 10 times the same pet in the fenceyard to get this pet to breedability 7

[ancient mirage]

i would say the one that requires you to say hi to a bunch of people without switching servers or worlds

[worthy shoal]

Any event and it is done

[opaque sun]

The 6 to 7 is way more than 450 days according to code digging

[raven fog]

oh yah i didnt do it yet

[raven fog]

like ?

[raven fog]

daim

[raven fog]

what about 5

[opaque sun]

So its more like did recent code diggers find out that the initial discovery was a mistake?

[dim burrow]

is ele sorc faster than divine knight

[worthy shoal]

My bad, I dig the wrong conversation, this one was about shiny pet upgrade ...

[dim burrow]

for active farming

[opaque sun]

Getting to 5 is like some cough code digger cough did like a year worth of full fence breed ability to get it

[worthy shoal]

I am going to try to find this conversation once again

[opaque sun]

Yeah shiny lv8, 9 and even 10 is doable

Breedability achievement is few thousand years

[viral snow]

Sounds like skill issue to me

Just be born in ancient egypt duh

Gotta play idle on with my dinosaur bros

[opaque sun]

Just need life span of a treant

[worthy shoal]

Doot is proof Ideon was already in ancient Egypt

[viral snow]

Cringe if youre still obeying human life span

[opaque sun]

After breedability being near impossible, plunder 1m kills is probably the next difficult one

And maybe the say “hi” achievement maybe difficult depending on the time

[viral snow]

Vman talent atleast did cut it in half

[primal bison]

Are there no more stat points after 400? Went 400 -> 401 no points

[worthy shoal]

Some people have already managed to do it

[opaque sun]

You mean talent points for certain class levels?

[viral snow]

For which talent ?
I got some 500 and it still gives me bonuses

[raven fog]

half infinity

[opaque sun]

Its doable, just means that person lacks lot of active time on other classes

[primal bison]

Over character leveling up and the talent points it’ gives you from leveling

[opaque sun]

Costs lot of opportunity cost

[worthy shoal]

Last level of trapping minigame bonus is not a real achievement but it can be listed too

[raven fog]

what about collecting 500 copper

its uo there

[opaque sun]

I got like 100k kills on plunder and was aiming for achievement, but now that boss update came, that plunder is on halt

[raven fog]

now ur farming keys

i got all the drops quickly sooooo

[opaque sun]

On DK at wurms, yes

[raven fog]

dk not es

[opaque sun]

Obviously you didnt get 10 capes for the trophy

[raven fog]

wait what

didnt check that

whi cares about the trophy

[opaque sun]

the 3rd quest of the mole requires to wear scarf, and get a cape “while quest is active”

[raven fog]

its just the best one

[opaque sun]

that trophy is super good

[raven fog]

on all char

[opaque sun]

And if you got the cape without doing the quest, you basically missed an opportunity of a trophy

[raven fog]

ON ALL CHAR?

daim

[opaque sun]

On each

[raven fog]

its fair imo

[opaque sun]

the cape itself is kind of meh

[raven fog]

it is the final boss

[raven fog]

i agree

[opaque sun]

But effectively its a stub to get a trophy

[raven fog]

only the pendent is good

and obals for skilling only

[opaque sun]

trophy and pendant (scarf)

[raven fog]

the 5 afk is good

[opaque sun]

Yeah 4 in family, 1 on personal is worth it

5 afk that can be easily upgraded to 6 afk gain

[raven fog]

yah but idk dr obals are hard to beat

yah lol

[opaque sun]

Trophy says “i can make up for that lost dr”

[raven fog]

yap 42 is massive

[opaque sun]

And if you can be bothered, you can swap out the sparkles each to to dr when farming, kattle when claiming

[raven fog]

why 42 not 40 or 45 idk

[opaque sun]

I assume 42 is the number of doot $ lava got

[raven fog]

i mean it is worth it but afk is kinda useless in general now

[viral snow]

42 is the answer to everything

[raven fog]

no one does afk for anything

[opaque sun]

If only 1k people bought doot, it would have been 1% dr

[raven fog]

😂

[opaque sun]

18%-24% afk gain is still worth alot even if you got 300% afk gain or so

[raven fog]

no but why would u use it if anything u get u get 10x faster activly

like no one skills besides maestro so no point of afk besides sampling

[opaque sun]

Like some stuff such as cooking ladles

And 9 people farming keys afk being boosted 24% afk is quite nice

[raven fog]

and that u can snap shot the afk gain than swith to dr when active

[opaque sun]

Active sure makes up lot of the bulk, but i wouldnt sleep on the 9 other afk guys too

[raven fog]

whats ur plan 9 bears and put all on turror

[opaque sun]

I would do afk for most of the time when lazy, switch to sparkle dr on something i really care for dr

why bears? No doot?

[raven fog]

yah lol u cant assume i have him

do u ?

[opaque sun]

i do

[raven fog]

the majorty dont

[raven fog]

yah idw gamble

well now ig its not gambling its 350 dollars

but am a student so cant

sadly

[opaque sun]

And you made a wise decision

[raven fog]

yap hopefully in the future

when life changes a bit

[opaque sun]

or lava changes a bit

[raven fog]

both

irl and game

[opaque sun]

Watch lava added 4 years pity just to replace the cheapest green gem pack with a 600$ pack in June 2027

[raven fog]

😂 wha

[viral snow]

bet you got a spare kidney you could sell

[raven fog]

this doot makes me a bit sad

[raven fog]

well well

i need ti start fund me site or something

[opaque sun]

Time to grow some kidneys in your garden

[viral snow]

just start an OF and sell feet pics

[raven fog]

i heard u can sell part of the liver and it grows back

[raven fog]

time to make some pjone calls

[opaque sun]

“Doot for a Foot” trading community

[raven fog]

hahahahha

great ideas

u guys are creative

do u work

?

[viral snow]

imma register that domain real quick

[viral snow]

im working right now

[raven fog]

u have doot

[raven fog]

dont forget to put ma name lol

[viral snow]

nope
but maybe I will on next free roll

[viral star]

how to get more divinity exp and points do i justn eed to lvl it up or can i boost it somehow?

[viral snow]

change style for exp
upgrade gods for points

[viral star]

okay so i need to wait.. cos i just started my divinity yesterday

[viral snow]

there are alos artifacts for divinity gain
But those two mentioned above are the basic ways to increase gain imo

[viral snow]

yes first few days is slow
Put in as many chars as you can

[opaque sun]

You will come across said bonuses here and there in w5

[viral star]

i put them all

[viral snow]

then you should be able to get your second god soon

[viral star]

i got the snake already

[viral snow]

and also change style on Lvl 5

that doubles your xp and points gain

[viral star]

i was askinbg bout exp cos my mage levels up faster?

[viral snow]

your ES has a talent that boosts divinity xP

[viral star]

oh. my

[opaque sun]

Divinity is part of the tab 2 specialization mage skill

So mages get more div exp if that talent is raised

[viral star]

i dont see this working tho

i get the ussual 1 exp value instead of 3 that i should?

1*330%

[spiral rain]

2 BB or 2 DK?

[viral snow]

2bb is ass

[opaque sun]

“all skill” tends to mean just w1-w3 skills

Lot of the later world skills doesnt apply to “all skills”

[viral star]

thats annoying

[opaque sun]

The mage specialize skill didnt affect divinity at first, but later lava specifically added to affect divinity (and war specializaiton on const)

[viral star]

i should link everybody to this guy now?

or

[narrow cloak]

if you can reach all the lab bonuses you want with less people it doesn't have to be everyone, the 30% afk is nice for pushing

[opaque sun]

only need 6 to link the notable nodes, and 8 to absolutely connect everything

[orchid rock]

I'm active farming in w5 to gain exp on my MMan, but the crystal mobs do not seem to give me extra exp. Is there something that might cause them to do so ?

[zinc torrent]

Just get doot

[opaque sun]

surely crystals give more exp unless its taking too long for you to kill a crystal and it resets the exp/gold value

[orchid rock]

That's it, thanks !

[opaque sun]

If you not one shotting the mobs (and crystals if possible) fall back

[orchid rock]

The xp / hour seems to be really high there, even if i'm not one shotting
But I'll try somewhere else to see

[magic fjord]

What's the best option for farming molten core knuckers? The guaranteed method via afk? I fully expect to have to leave my char for three weeks, lol.

[opaque sun]

If it takes 2 punches to kill something, its in a way 1/2 kill rate, 3 punches and its like 1/3 kill rate

ES on active is the “best” way

[orchid rock]

Yes, I see your point. I come back in 10 mins after checking this
I know ES better, but I need to 150 my MMan

[opaque sun]

ES active is like something equivalent of putting 20-30 guys there on afk

[orchid rock]

VMan on the way

[opaque sun]

The “es best” was for the recipe thing

[magic fjord]

OK, that's what I'm doing. My DR isn't amazing though, so it might be a looooong while.

Annoying as I have the mats for both that and the Kruk one. lol

[white trellis]

I don't need all ancient relics before I can get Eldritch right? Just the relic that I want to get eldritch needs to be ancient first?

[opaque sun]

you can even aim for eldritch with missing normal artifacts

[white trellis]

Yee ok, sweet

chances are so low but I've opened so many chests now was starting to doubt 😂

[dim burrow]

anyone know why my siege breaker skills dont get auto casted

[zinc torrent]

Turn on auto

[dim burrow]

its on

but its only using my normal attacks i also have skills assigned

[opaque sun]

Iike options?

[magic fjord]

Probably one of the other skills blocking it. Remove them all and then add them in one by one (starting with the sb skills)

[opaque sun]

Also if you talking about on random event boss, the shield messes up archer (bow) ai pathing

[dim burrow]

im in rift

is it bugged in there

[opaque sun]

Sometime people forget to turn back on the option settings after a speed run

[dim burrow]

ohhh ok ic i didnt know that was an option

tyty

[sharp wind]

Just got my snail, how many mail we get per day?

[deep lodge]

1, and with upgrades you can get 1 extra

[opaque sun]

one guaranteed, another one by chance that is determined by the snail upgrade lv

[deep lodge]

Maybe 2 once you go over 100% extra, dunno

[sharp wind]

[opaque sun]

And its on daily reset timer so fertilizer/chem dont help

[sharp wind]

It really is a snail

[deep lodge]

you can double your bits every 3 days in the beginning, it's pretty good i'd say and pretty fast

[sharp wind]

Only 1 per day

[opaque sun]

Its super fast to get to 0 tho

[edgy osprey]

Okay, so.... Weird thingymabob: I'm missing 60 armor upgrade stones from Kattle

[deep lodge]

wdym missing? They disappeared?

[edgy osprey]

Yup

I had like 66 and now I have 3

[deep lodge]

You looked on all your chars?

[edgy osprey]

Yes

All that could kill him and all that couldn't

[deep lodge]

I guess there are two possibilities:

• You got desync and a rollback (while going from steam -> mobile for example)
• You didn't look well enough/didn't sort your chest

[edgy osprey]

.............it didn't fucking save despite me doing a cloud save logout ....... What the flying fuck

[deep lodge]

What about your keys? Did they go back up?

And your kruk cards too

[edgy osprey]

In retrospect, that would explain the number I had, about which I was surprised

Yup, the card is back to silver

[deep lodge]

rip

Yeah, when I wanna make sure it really saves I wait to see numbers update on Toolbox/Efficiency

[edgy osprey]

Alright then, back to farming this fucker. But hey: another 70 chances to get a rare drop! Without cheating!

[deep lodge]

Haha

[opaque sun]

your brain just did a very vivid simulation of the fights

[edgy osprey]

Was about to make the lava armor, wanted to get my stones, what happened?:

[edgy osprey]

Oh, so that's why I felt bone dust in between my teeth

Oh, wait, I think those were my teeth

[bright quail]

whats the best way to boost damage for mman?

[boreal scaffold]

I would say damage cards but alchemy exists so ye

[bright quail]

is it worth using chatoic kattlecruk for the exp aswell?

[deep lodge]

Account progress

[bright quail]

since i need lvls

[deep lodge]

Skillage damage is quite good also

[boreal scaffold]

Bro did u get vman yet?

[bright quail]

no thats what im tryna get

[deep lodge]

What's your lowest skill level?

[bright quail]

yeah but idrk how to level up trapping quick

[deep lodge]

There's no "quick", but there is a "best" way

[bright quail]

alright gimme

[deep lodge]

Actually, maybe there's quick with baloons

[bright quail]

well yeah but yk

[lethal canyon]

what was the command for 3d printing chart?

[stiff prairie]

Isnt the 'best' way to babysit 20m traps with eagle eye?

[boreal scaffold]

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[opaque sun]

Manually claiming 20 min traps

[bright quail]

idm doing that lmao

[opaque sun]

The old grandpa way of “back in my days we didnt have drones”

[bright quail]

so basically just claim 20 min traps of the highest critter?

thats it?

[deep lodge]

Since you don't care about efficiency, you want to max and use "Maestro Transfusion". You also want to use the latest critter you unlock (blubbo if possible), and stack every source of skill XP you can. (Max "happy dude" & "Bliss N Chips"). You also want to take "Crystal Countdown" to max level and take it to max reduction after each level up.

[opaque sun]

yeah, blobfish

[stiff prairie]

Hust checked its actually to do 8hour natural traps. The xp multiplier works out as 5x/h.
And the next best option is 20min traps

[opaque sun]

While using all manners of exp on placement. Efficiency doesnt matter for exp

[bright quail]

so 8 hour natural?

[stiff prairie]

Natural for just xp at 5x/hour, basic traps (or silk traps) for 3x/hour

[bright quail]

alright cheers

[deep lodge]

Go for just xp, you'll have shit efficiency with transfusion anyways

[stiff prairie]

With natural, you lose out on critters.
With silk, you lose some xp/hour but gain critters and have a x2 amount of shinies

But yeah, if you are going for xp only, do what matt said. Natural +mman.
All 20min traps is the best way to farm a specific critter

[bright quail]

so i cant really fight with mman then? since i need the xp talents

[deep lodge]

You're better off never taking your mman/vman off xp traps, since the higher trapping levels will give you a bigger bonus to vman trapping skill and result in more critters in the long run

[deep lodge]

You need the talent when setting the traps, (and I use them when collecting just to be sure but I think it's not needed)

[bright quail]

just for setting?

can i use the drone or nah?

[deep lodge]

Yeah

[stiff prairie]

Everything is determined when set not when collected

[deep lodge]

Some things are determined when collected I believe

[bright quail]

and what am i doing again? 8 hour natural?

[opaque sun]

Shiny chance is at collection

[bright quail]

okay thanks everyone

[opaque sun]

The critter number and exp is at placement

[stiff prairie]

8 hour natural isbest.
20 hour natural is a "set and forget" if u have rift 6

[opaque sun]

Placing a trap is like taking a sample as in those number never changes

[deep lodge]

!trapchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[bright quail]

wait also what if i wear acorn hat?

do i wear that before?

[deep lodge]

It's a bit outdated, but it gives an idea

[opaque sun]

But eagle eye (drone) can further modify that number with a final %

Obviously use exp prayer instead of dimwit

[deep lodge]

Don't forget chaotic efaunt for skill xp

[bright quail]

wait should i use the prayer before?

oh yeah ill just follow the chart thingy

[opaque sun]

Everything exp, at placement

[deep lodge]

Yes, remove dimwit and equip unending energy

And balance of proficiency if you have

[opaque sun]

Once placed, you can wear/do whatever

[bright quail]

alright thanks again

[deep lodge]

Now that I think about it, I don't think my own vman's xp traps are this min-maxed lol... Should redo it

[bright quail]

whats the hardest challenge for vman do u think?

[deep lodge]

For the quest?

[bright quail]

just getting lv 150?

[twilit goblet]

what is totaliser in superbit?

[deep lodge]

The thing on the left

[bright quail]

are u able to get multikill on bosses btw?

[opaque sun]

both lv150 and gmush 12m van be hard depending on your acclunt

[stiff prairie]

The first totaliser in gaming gives you +%damage i think

[bright quail]

how long would the mush take?

[deep lodge]

Can't really tell you, by the time vman came out I had all requirements already done ^^'

[twilit goblet]

MSA totaliser, wondering what that is

[bright quail]

yeah lmao

[opaque sun]

You get multikill tier modifier in boss zones, but cant multikill them

[deep lodge]

Gives you bonuses depending on waves

[bright quail]

what i mean is do u get extra drops

[opaque sun]

The star talent of charon kind of gets affected by it

[twilit goblet]

ahh i see, thanks! looks like a good unlock to save for

[opaque sun]

You do know that multikill doesnt affects drops to begin with

Aside from the basic mob drops

[bright quail]

wdym

[deep lodge]

I was about to go "Akchually"

[stiff prairie]

The hardest part of vman is time only goes so fast

[opaque sun]

multikill only boosts basic mob drops (top left item on the card)

[bright quail]

if u have an x7 multikill u would get 7 drops instead of 1 no?

[bright quail]

yea

[stiff prairie]

Multikill is not quite the same as droprate

[bright quail]

okay nvm im dumb lmao

forget it

[opaque sun]

And anycase, mk doesnt affect boss

[deep lodge]

I don't think you get multikill bonus for Jagged Obol tho hahaha

Would be sick

[stiff prairie]

Mk only works on stuff that naturally respawn

[bright quail]

i only get chiz obols and no scarfs....

so annoying

[deep lodge]

Yeah scarf's pretty rare

[bright quail]

obol is rarer

[opaque sun]

Its rare, but easy enough to get 10

[deep lodge]

True, but I also feel like I get more obols than scarves

[bright quail]

yeah i cant get any scarves

[opaque sun]

Although bad in terms of key efficiency, farming on nm drops scarves like crazy

[deep lodge]

It protects my sanity

[inland lintel]

I just realized I probably have to push my BB and BM to kattlekruk to complete those merits for recipes, when is the first one that requires to kill the boss with player 1?

[opaque sun]

When getting scarves for new guy, i just run nm couple of times

[bright quail]

nm?

[opaque sun]

Nightmare

[bright quail]

oh mb lmao

my main problem is keys tbh

[opaque sun]

Efficiency wise per key, its best to run on the lowest difficulty that drops it

[deep lodge]

Like, 3rd or 4th?

Just checked, 3rd

[bright quail]

is the mark of member worth it for mman?

or just chiz helmet

[pulsar cliff]

It's just slab fodder from W5.

[bright quail]

ye but like which helmet should be used

just chiz?

[pulsar cliff]

If you have the resources to skip I'd go lustre because both of those terminate the branch. But not that it's too expensive. Really up to you man. Are you having a lot of trouble with your MMan prog?

[bright quail]

yeah we just had a huge conversation on what i should do

nws man

lmao

[pulsar cliff]

Ah sorry, just waking up lol

[bright quail]

nah ur good

thanks anyway

what do u recommend tho?

other than stuff like skillage damage

[pulsar cliff]

In general? Or for your Maestro

[bright quail]

mman

[deep lodge]

Do you have all your tools at max tier you can equip, and upgraded them for max luck?

[pulsar cliff]

I'd start laying out the path for your VMan

[bright quail]

thats what im doin

[bright quail]

yeah ill do that rq

[pulsar cliff]

I didn't find it too bad but I'd also been camped out at end of W5 for a bit at that point. Tools is a good idea, but really just hop into it and find where you start stalling

[bright quail]

still not there 🤷‍♂️

[pulsar cliff]

It's in W4 right?

[bright quail]

im nearly at the kattlecruk fight

like 2 away r smthn

[pulsar cliff]

The quest for Vman is in W4 tho

[bright quail]

yeah

i kinda messed up having mman labbing his whole life

lmao

[pulsar cliff]

Oo, yeah.Woops

[bright quail]

didnt realise until recently that was a big fuckup

[deep lodge]

You're trying to get a mman to kattlekruk?

[bright quail]

nono

i meant on my main pusher

[deep lodge]

Ah okay

[bright quail]

still not there

[deep lodge]

I got scared for a second

[bright quail]

im kinda ass

[bright quail]

im not that dumb

[pulsar cliff]

Necklace just won't drop from Kattle zzzz

[deep lodge]

Well at some point, you've done every little bit of progress that was left behind and you need to do some good'ol general account progress (sailing, alchemy, stamps)

[bright quail]

why is my mman so goddamn weak -_-

[deep lodge]

That's just how mman/vman is sadly

I think my vman (that I have invested a lot of effort in) has like 50x less damage than my ES?

[twin aurora]

still quite powerful ( on boosting other char / skill )

[deep lodge]

For sure, that's what he's good at

[bright quail]

hes basically only a support character

bc hes not rlly amazing at anything

[twin aurora]

and snapshotting during speedrun ( for printing some monster drop )

[deep lodge]

He's best in slot at farming bosses tho, if you have the damage

[bright quail]

what exactly does luk effect

[deep lodge]

A bit of drop rate

[bright quail]

does it give a higher chance of rarer drops?

[deep lodge]

Just straight up drop rate stat

[bright quail]

i c

[deep lodge]

At 10k luck, I think you get something like 0.8DR

And on vman of course, it affects your damage and accuracy

[bright quail]

ahh alright

when will candies be usable in w5 btw?

[deep lodge]

When W6 comes out

[bright quail]

oh okay

anyway gl

thanks for all the help

cya

[deep lodge]

bye

[unborn niche]

With the addition of new upgrade stone, i assume we'll soon have protect stone selling at gemshop

[hallow drum]

Just got lucky and got a doot, for some reason though he will not activate unless I am on my 1st or 3rd character, leaving me very confused, I am not sure how to make the other characters activate doot, anyone else experience this, or know how to remedy it?

By activate I mean make all the divinity's active.

[deep lodge]

I think you need like lvl 2 divinity or something?

Maybe 3

[stiff prairie]

Thats because you didn't get doot with green gems /s
Yeah, i think you need to unlock the gods and gsin some divinity levels to benefit from them.

[deep lodge]

How did you come to the conclusion that it was not activated? Bear god not working?

[hallow drum]

Yes.

No lab, also God that gives progress toward other skills on login, does not work on any characters except my first and 3rd

[deep lodge]

Hm. and what about their divinity level?

[hallow drum]

That might be the case.

[sweet mirage]

are they linked to any god?

[hallow drum]

3rd is like 20

[hallow drum]

Yes.

My first is maybe 25?

But yeah haven't done divinity on any other character's....

[deep lodge]

Ah then that's most likely it

[hallow drum]

That could quite possibly be the answer, thank you.

Any idea of the level I would need to get?

[deep lodge]

2 or 3, no more

[hallow drum]

Listen... I'm about 2 months into the game... I haven't been playing for super lonh

Don't judge me XD

[deep lodge]

There's no judging ^^

Lava didn't want doot to work pre W5, so he added the condition that divinity must be lvl 2-3 for doot to work

[hallow drum]

Makes perfect sense, I got to W5 about 2 days before the wacky trading deal so...

I've been slacking on div tbh, but Ive really just been trying to push levels on my 1st, and trying to get atom collider to push alch

It's been wild

[deep lodge]

Yeah there's a lot to do

Although, atom collider is not a magic alchemy pusher, you need big samples (mainly oak and copper) for that

[hallow drum]

I figured with doot I could kinda bypass a little with the triple print, but yeah, my samples suck :( I think I'm like at 300k for logs rn 😭

[zinc torrent]

..and that's a month now grinding for the Molten Core Knuckler recipe without any luck. Does anyone have any suggestions for AFK grinding it?

[deep lodge]

I'd recommend not farming it AFK, but active with ES. For AFK, maximize AFK% rate, and use a calculator to see how long you need to "guarantee" to drop it (that's gonna be reaaaaalllllyyyy long tho)

[crisp silo]

Afk for longer times

Like really long

[deep lodge]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746

[crisp silo]

Id say 2 years

[tacit tulip]

I know you clarified already but yes, you need at least level 2 divinity on your active character for doot to work 🙂

[deep lodge]

Also, those respawn rate keychains in the gem shop could help quite a bit

[worldly bluff]

Would someone mind doing me a favor and sending me screenshots of their 3D Printer page?

[modest warren]

whats the criteria your looking for

[worldly bluff]

I’m just seeing which trees people decided to print, since there’s more trees than free spaces

[zinc torrent]

If you get doot can you unlink all gods?

[modest warren]

if you dont buy all the spaces you prob need to just re sample when you want different logs but i think a good place to start is oak, bleach and maybe TP rolls

whatever else is just what u want

[deep lodge]

Also the last logs you have access to

[modest warren]

oh yeah good idea

[worldly bluff]

I have access to all the logs, that’s why it’s an issue

[young blade]

Ways to speed up sigils? I dont want my characters to be on them forever

[modest warren]

im printing these but its because its things i needed

[deep lodge]

Poor guy died fishing, he's gonna come back to 0 gains

[modest warren]

sigils are super late game dont do them until your done all bubbles and dont need water for whatever reason

other than that theres an artifact to boost sigil bonuses

[deep lodge]

Gem shop and one artifact

[worldly bluff]

And an achievement

[modest warren]

what achievement

[worldly bluff]

Mmmmm pretty sure it gives 20% sigil charge

[deep lodge]

Damn, didn't even know it existed lol

[modest warren]

damn

thank god i had it without knowing

[deep lodge]

Same

Soon (ish)

[modest warren]

anyone else spend 3 days maxing out all cauldrons or just me

[worldly bluff]

soon(ish)

[young blade]

yeah this is my progress

But I guess i'll stop with them until I get all the gem shop upgrades

[deep lodge]

The boost you mean?

[modest warren]

yeah

[deep lodge]

Yeah I did that

Also pre-unlocked some non-existing bubbles just for the sake of it

[river sentinel]

There's a max?! Crap

[modest warren]

yeah me too

when i heard there was a max that was my reaction

its not needed tho

i was able to get all bubbles easily without it anywhere near max

[deep lodge]

But it feels good to know you don't have to think about it anymore

[modest warren]

yeah true

[fathom lagoon]

Yoo they finally fixed iOS pets not showing up

Or should I rather say he

[deep lodge]

Whatever I can remove from my "to do eventually" list, I'm happy

[modest warren]

0% chance lol

[fathom lagoon]

Does anyone know how I can increase amount of treasure boxes for sailing? Or is it only via the gem purchases in the shop

[modest warren]

there is an artifact

[fathom lagoon]

The max cap for treasures

[fathom lagoon]

Ah damn true

[young blade]

Is there a max for the liquid cauldrons?

[deep lodge]

I'm even more 0% than you

[modest warren]

doubt it

[modest warren]

damn how even lol

[fathom lagoon]

This guy isn’t a mod

[modest warren]

thats messed up

[deep lodge]

You mean the rate, or the pay2win upgrades? Cause there definitely is for the latter

[modest warren]

i forgot the pay2win upgrades ive had them maxxed out for so long

[young blade]

I mean this

[young blade]

exactly

[deep lodge]

It can go quite high yeah

[modest warren]

i think people are in the 100s of those levels so i doubt there is a max if it is its no where near reached

[deep lodge]

(That's 120 rate lvl)

with 3 guys on it

[fathom lagoon]

Do you keep the water cap node active in lab?

[modest warren]

i wonder if we will get the 4th slot on cauldrons

[fathom lagoon]

I activated everything except that one

Feels like the 30% slower rate is too slow lol

[deep lodge]

No, I need all the water I can get

[modest warren]

i make too much water when activing bubo so i need it on

[fathom lagoon]

I dont even have a bubo yet

[deep lodge]

I use more on bubbles than I generate in 24h, and never max out

[deep lodge]

What? How?

[fathom lagoon]

But now that iOS is fixed I can start grinding again

[fathom lagoon]

Legit just rushed w5 w my ES, I only have a BB and ES lol, rest of my chars are still in their second job

[modest warren]

im still new to alchemy lol

[fathom lagoon]

Basically labbed/divved the fuck out

[modest warren]

anyone know if there is a good place to stop leveling grind time or should i just keep going

[deep lodge]

Just invest it back into liquid rate, better for the future

[fathom lagoon]

Was waiting on iOS fix so I didn’t have to re do all my talents, now I can go and start level grinding again and finally get the elite classes

Now that I have Doot

[deep lodge]

I had stopped at 3k since it didn't take too long to do, but i'm gonna start again. There's no hard cap or even soft cap, it's just always a little bit more expensive than the last

[modest warren]

its a linear bubble so i suppose i just keep going

but like do i need more than 3k realistically

im not planning on doing the grind to 5k account level

[deep lodge]

Yes, if you want lvl 500+ you'll need way more than 3k

[modest warren]

id rather wait till w6 where levels will be easier

[deep lodge]

3k makes is quite easy to get bubo to 470 ish

[modest warren]

thats enough for me lol

[sweet mirage]

If I have the sheepie pet, then does it change anything if I equip bubble on a character? Will it give double the bonus, or nothing will change?

[modest warren]

to be fair im still not at larry 300 or whatever it is

idk how to get enough for larry

[modest warren]

nothing

[deep lodge]

Nothing, just maybe the display value on Idleon Efficiency

[deep lodge]

Bigger samples

[modest warren]

need me some samples

[deep lodge]

Finally got 520 larry a few days ago

[random saddle]

I just got sheepie so now i dont meed to care about big bubble at all ?

[modest warren]

now double it for 105%

[deep lodge]

101% is good enough for me lol

[modest warren]

god i wish that was me

i stopped here

i should get back to it

[deep lodge]

Next is bob, but that's even more expensive (1.85k vs 1.43k)

[bold quiver]

yeah, ez. Now i just gotta level to 425 on my ES to claim the trophy

[zinc torrent]

To confirm, you get the most kattle keys with ES, but the suggma recipe fastest on a DK?

[modest warren]

do you print combs for bob or do u use atoms

[opaque sun]

for sheepie, you dont need to care with big bubbles as now they are just mere markers on your characters

for doot, you still need to wear purrmep on someone as the minor link of purrmep doesnt work with doot alone

[modest warren]

maybe w6 we get a big bubble doubled if its equiped but doubt it

[opaque sun]

Double giant bubble makes infinite giants

So a easy not gonna happen

[modest warren]

fair and balanced

ok lets bolster it by just 20%

[sweet mirage]

pet trading is not implemented yet?

[opaque sun]

You will notice when they are added as discord will be lively with colorful messages

[modest warren]

topbird can i have some words of wisdom for the day

[opaque sun]

Click that bleach log bubble hourly

[modest warren]

mmm i love wisdom

wish i had that many logs tho

close right

[opaque sun]

soon you will get 166m on a single slot (probably less considering the printer bonus)

[modest warren]

to be fair that print was 2 weeks ago maybe and it was without the super tryhard divinity linking so if i were to redo it maybe

[deep lodge]

I think it's time to resample

What are the odds I improve less than that and lose atoms/h

[modest warren]

i need to resample every character tbh

i have 2 characters printing basically nothing

[deep lodge]

Same, still haven't done vman void sampling

Huge loss probably

But I loathe resampling like nothing else

Maybe just less than doot

[modest warren]

hes a little neglected

[deep lodge]

Ah damn that's quite drastic

A mage too

[modest warren]

he is killing moles

[deep lodge]

Did you happen to get purged after a certain thing happened?

[modest warren]

regrettably

[deep lodge]

rip

I was wondering, did you lose all atom upgrades purchased too?

[modest warren]

i didnt have atoms yet

so i wouldnt know

[deep lodge]

I see, you're probably in those that lost the least then

[modest warren]

yeah i came out on top ngl

all ships unlocked with some levels plus i kept the achievements lol

[deep lodge]

I'm still nowhere near a 300 boat 😢

I'll be there in about forever

[modest warren]

i feel like 250 is close ish no

[tight ridge]

should i use this for zow chow farming, if so how much should i level it up

[modest warren]

defense and accuracy should come plentiful by now no?

[deep lodge]

Given the cost ramp up and the fact I have no new island to unlock, i don't feel close ish at all

[deep lodge]

Max it

You might suffer a bit from the lack of defense at wurms with the crystals tho

[modest warren]

whats the latest island you can get to

[tight ridge]

not sure how this curse scales so its safe to max it out?

[deep lodge]

Well, the last one

[modest warren]

i meant in 2 hours

with a good amount of boats

[deep lodge]

I get to the last one in 3 hours, could probably do 2h if I swapped captains

[tight ridge]

ty

[deep lodge]

If you're asking with all my boats, then 3rd island from last i'd say

[modest warren]

i mean if you farm that for ahwile even if you dont get any useful artifacts youll get alot to trade with blob

the trade values are insane at the later islands

[deep lodge]

Yeah that's what I'm doing.

[modest warren]

also how do u have so much speed i feel like my boat speed is no where ;-;

[late geyser]

Does it trigger only my OCR? Does lava really sort items by id and not by specific order field?

[deep lodge]

Good captains is one step

[modest warren]

ive given up at looking at my storage

this single capitain is my only pride and joy

[deep lodge]

Damn, pretty nice

[unborn niche]

Just farm w1 colo boss for the egg with DK
Didn't expect 80 dropped from a single boss lol

[deep lodge]

Multikill applies to it, got the same thing happening to me

[modest warren]

ive never done w1 colo with dk

do i dare

[deep lodge]

No too hard

[modest warren]

what would i get from it

[long siren]

Guys is beryllium a trap? The one that turns pens into boxes?

[modest warren]

the only thing i guess is the baba yaga egg

anything for +1 slab

[deep lodge]

Around 10 copper and iron helmets

[modest warren]

10 copper sounds pretty nice rn

[modest warren]

i mean its just a single pen a day its not like you wont get that within 5 min of afk

[deep lodge]

It's not a trap, just useless

[heady scaffold]

technically yes, realistically no imo

[modest warren]

i guess its a trap in that it is throwing ur atoms in the trash

[worthy shoal]

I am bested :

[modest warren]

its ok all my other capitains are like 10% i swear

[worthy shoal]

Not my case :

[heady scaffold]

its 1 to 1 instead of the 1 to ~3 you could get from actually clicking, but are you actually going to click through all your pens

[modest warren]

god i wish that was me

i once clicked 1k pens in a sitting

it was fun guys i swear

[opaque sun]

its saves a few clicks to max myriad nothing bad but nothing good

[bold quiver]

is this the best cap to equip and level up active? (like is this a dif multiplier? or just additive

[opaque sun]

active exp is its own multi so moon moon good

[long siren]

Wait I click my pens... sometimes

[pure spindle]

Dont think ive ever seen someone wear that hat

I gotta premium that thing

[worthy shoal]

This one, fly, ghost, Efaunt, Crystal w2, crystal w3

[bold quiver]

but the additive are not important right? if i have good GT

[opaque sun]

The cap is the same thing you can get from character creation if you havent noticed

[worthy shoal]

Which hat ?

[pure spindle]

That makes sense

Been a long while since i made a new guy

Hopefully new slots soon

[opaque sun]

Lava added those hat later on response of kids complain they cant get the slab of those beginner hats

[pure spindle]

Ohhh

[modest warren]

to be fair if i was into grinding slab i would be mad too

[pure spindle]

Thatd explain why i dont remember it being there then

[modest warren]

is it possible to get that or the apple hat still or no

[quick jay]

Is it possible to upgrade cards to 4/5 stars just by dropping them or is it necessary to gect card modifiers ?

[modest warren]

the apple launch event was the one time i was on a month long break its so sad

[wispy hound]

some cards are easy some are hard

[modest warren]

insert the pic of the guy who had like a million w5 crystal cards

[quick jay]

So it's possible but we don't really know how many cards after 3* are necessary ?

[wispy hound]

wiki should say

[worldly bluff]

First time reprinting in monntthhsss. Went fron 9k to this.

[wise wharf]

niiice

[runic girder]

Damn from 9k

[runic girder]

Wrong page but wiki does say, this is bonus per star level

[wispy hound]

oops my bad

[worldly bluff]

I’ve been grinding skills for a month so it’s nice seeing a payoff 😮‍💨

[rose scaffold]

Anyone got tips for getting dungeon weapons to count for the slab that are lower than the weapon you start dungeons at?

[runic girder]

Getting a higher tier unlock all below

[long wren]

👍

[runic girder]

Ie doesnt show it but checking slab in w5 does

[rose scaffold]

My slab doesn't either

Missing all the low bows

[runic girder]

I could have sworn it did, odd

[rose scaffold]

Didn't happen for mage or warr i guess because i played those when i was lower dungeon level

but my archer never went to dungeon until now

[echo crag]

its supposed to register

[deep lodge]

You just need to do a dungeon with an archer and you'll get all lower weapons

[echo crag]

unless lava broke it

[deep lodge]

It's probably not retro-active

[rose scaffold]

I just did a dungeon with archer to get those bows

[deep lodge]

Hmm

[rose scaffold]

Before 10 mins a go archer had never seen a dungeon

[runic girder]

Upgrading weapons excludes the bottom ones

[deep lodge]

Maybe wait a bit and it'll update

I can confirm it does give you lower weapons, I had that problem before (and with bows too, now it's all there)

[rose scaffold]

I also see that the slab has blackhole bow, which i have no idea what is?

is a bow you can't get in dungeon yet?

[rose scaffold]

But i can't get this weapon in dungeon or upgrade my weapon more?

[deep lodge]

What's your limit on that?

Is there a hard cap?

[rose scaffold]

This is the max

[deep lodge]

You can't click anymore?

[rose scaffold]

nup

[deep lodge]

Hm

[rose scaffold]

Saving my credits for the day i can

😄

[deep lodge]

Probably some lava spaghetti code then

I guess we'll get an update along with this

[rose scaffold]

will go do dungeon with another class see if bow updates after

[novel dome]

Do you ever get more than 1 additional gold construction slot from the atom particle if you upgrade it?

[deep lodge]

The game might make a check at daily reset or something, I think I remember it was not instantaneous for me

[rose scaffold]

Think it's static to 1

[deep lodge]

Getting a good amount of pens along with the keys

[worthy shoal]

Wristache incoming

[modest warren]

you only get more from the lab

[tight ridge]

you get two from lab

[modest warren]

if u have all 4 blue

[cold jackal]

i blasted all my candies i had laying around from the sprint event to skip through w4.
any easy way of getting the elites on my other characters? only my main guy which was blood beserker is elite lol

[fathom lagoon]

Bro is me

[fathom lagoon]

Just div/lab a bit while you upgrade alch to get to where you can effectively push to 4th portal on w4

Then get your elites

Suggest pushing a wizard there so you can unlock ES

Shits fire

[cold jackal]

cool, i threw everyone into lab when i hit world 4. and now my main is lvl 150 and everyone else is like 70 lol

[rose scaffold]

@deep lodgeit has updated for me now 😄 thanks

[fathom lagoon]

Legit same lol my ES is 160, BB is 90 and rest are like 70-75

[cold jackal]

lol now its going to be the same as everyone sits in div aha

[fathom lagoon]

Have fun in div jail

Now you can touch grass for a few weeks

[worthy shoal]

Until TranQui

[fathom lagoon]

That’s lvl 40 right?

[worthy shoal]

I think so

[worthy shoal]

Only switch to a new style if it gives you more exp

[bold quiver]

to drop obols from last boss, is normal the best?

[worthy shoal]

Always

[fathom lagoon]

Ah just looked, so tranqui doesn’t give you div pts just exp?

[worthy shoal]

Yes, but even when you do something else so you can come back later once you hit level 80

[fathom lagoon]

I’m assuming at that point you would probably have all gods unlocked

By lvl 40

[worthy shoal]

It was not my case

[fathom lagoon]

True that

[cosmic tendon]

Goat and 40 is basically free though

[bold quiver]

good cards to level up? i picked everything i had

[cosmic tendon]

As much as ur gonna get without div

[lost tendon]

How the hell do you guys get the 3 tears in 1hr for the rift?

[bold quiver]

ES

[lost tendon]

i tried bubo

[cosmic tendon]

Which rift?

[lost tendon]

whats the chance to get one of thsoe

like rift level 2

[cosmic tendon]

My es has actived all of them in 20 mins

[bold quiver]

are u one shoting everything and insta respawning?

[lost tendon]

uhm im oneshotting, but no insta respawn

[cosmic tendon]

My dr is better when I don’t watch it

[lost tendon]

do you actually need to pick them up?

[cosmic tendon]

No they auto loot

[lost tendon]

ooh

[cosmic tendon]

Even if u don’t have auto loot which I assume u do

[lost tendon]

i dont have auto loot

its 5$ right

[modest warren]

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah it’s the first/only purchase to make

Worth it if you’ve played this much and can afford it. But for this they still autoloot

Same with sb coins

U should use any class with respawn mechanics and auto afk for 10-55 mins

Es best with low pts in wormhole. Or dk with 1 pr in respawn

[lost tendon]

huh but ES doesnt have respawn mechanics right, only the wormhole

but those are not the same mobs right

[cosmic tendon]

That is respawn

Killing them causes respawn even after portal closes

[lost tendon]

ahhh

got it

[cosmic tendon]

Pushing u want lower points in it

Kind of need to balance

Because if the portal is open longer mobs from it get stronger and ur attacking them instead of the map full of regular mobs

[lost tendon]

riightt okay got it

[bold quiver]

ready to lvl to 450 to equip trophy!

[cosmic tendon]

ES will very very likely be ur most powerful char at this stage with a decent build

[heavy moth]

damn already the neckal;ce

[bold quiver]

6 nightmare runs! ez clap

[heavy moth]

goodlord

[heavy moth]

wow on vman ?

[bold quiver]

Nah, vman would take a few minutes to kill. So i did on ES

[heavy moth]

i envy your luck 😛

[cosmic tendon]

Did u have the same dr in photo?

[bold quiver]

no, my max DR is 15,15, i did with that

[cosmic tendon]

Nice thank u. That is incredible luck

No matter the dr

[bold quiver]

yeah i was just gonna kill 1 with my remaining keys before going to bed, and bam

[cosmic tendon]

Damn that feels good

[bold quiver]

those hard drops are all about luck, if u have a "decent" DR nothing else u can do

decent i'd say around 10ish,

[green eagle]

doing a resample on my mining today, probably other things as well, but which of these, if any, should i replace to maybe put card doublers?

[bold quiver]

2 card doubler is BIS for sampling

[frigid sundial]

Is Kitsune stone worth it?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah 0.5% vs 0.75% doesn’t feel that much different

[green eagle]

so, should i replace base eff and star sign doubler, or base eff and a 20% efficiency one?

[bold quiver]

whatever gives u more eff

[cosmic tendon]

If u can remember to turn on when checking frequent, turn off for long gaps of several hrs+

[bold quiver]

If u have chemical unlocked i think kitsune off is the best for bits

u lose so many bits with kitsune on if u have chemical chain

[heavy moth]

yea dont have tha luck did 8 run of nm just now only got 2 obols

XD

[echo crag]

or if your snail just reseted kitsune ok to have on

[bold quiver]

hey 2 obols is 10/10 also congrats, i didnt get any . And ive finished the achievement

[pulsar cliff]

Whaaaat. I'm at 5 obols, no necklace, one cape. So annoying

[heavy moth]

yea obols will be nice for my resampling got 5 atm so a sweet 25 % afk gain

[green eagle]

so i lose 8b efficiency when replacing a 20% skilling efficiency one, however i go from 15% to 30% skill afk gain with a card doubler. that's more worth it, right?

[heavy moth]

well 20 %

[bold quiver]

isnt it better to remove the base eff?

[green eagle]

i removed base already

[fathom lagoon]

Once your lab chars can reach all nodes, is there any point in continuing lvljng lab?

No right?

[echo crag]

lvl 75 for last chip slot

[fathom lagoon]

Ah yeah forgot bout chips

True

Jesus lvl 75 gonna take a year

[heavy moth]

lvl 1000 account wide for rift bonus if u got

[green eagle]

lvl 75 is easy 😴

[bold quiver]

oh skip that, dont grind 75 now

there is no point grinding for 75 on everyone if u dont even have enough good chips to fill lol

If u come back later to level up lab with better exp boosts u can get it in less than a week on everyone

[heavy moth]

ohh he got doot

i agree than its pointless chip rotation takes 100000 years for the good chips so it doesnt really matter till you have thos

[acoustic solar]

Anyone know how long it would take to reach 200

[deep lodge]

200 what? Levels?

[acoustic solar]

ye

sorry no context, but ye

[deep lodge]

Hm I don't remember the xp requirements for lvl 200

If you wanna calculate this, you can get the xp requirements

[bold quiver]

[opaque sun]

also depends a lot on your grind time levels and also if considering to do active

[rocky lake]

Does the stupid shovel in gardening give higher chance to drop bigger nuggets if I leave it for longer or does this bastard just hate me

[tawdry ocean]

hate

[opaque sun]

longer charge just gives multiple tries at once (but diminishing the more you save like library charge)

[bleak gazelle]

good to know

i went from a 4 nugget to a 90 nugget. big gamer here

[rocky lake]

So it does just hate me

2000 isn't big enough, I need MOAR!

[tropic kiln]

I went from 10886 nugget to 11201 nugget

[rocky lake]

At least you're going up bro I've been stuck with the 2k for months now

[simple void]

anyone got es skill bar config?

[deep lodge]

What level you're at?

I've made a sheet with the math

[acoustic solar]

@deep lodge MAESTRO is 141

but i need 200 for vman

[rocky lake]

Wait you can get to world 5 under level 200?

[deep lodge]

Isn't it 150?

[rocky lake]

Is this what it's like not waiting for content to come out and having giga leveled guys

[acoustic solar]

i think vman is 200?

[deep lodge]

141 to 200 with that xp would be 189 hours

[bleak gazelle]

Wiki says 150, the NPC who talks to you is also named L150 or something?

[acoustic solar]

@bleak gazelle ah, so i just need 9 levels?

[deep lodge]

I think so

11 hours then

[echo crag]

do you have the other requiremtn for vman tho

[acoustic solar]

niice

@echo crag whats the other reqs?

[deep lodge]

If anyone wants the LibreOffice formula:
=FLOOR((15 + POWER(A2, 1.9) + (11 * A2)) * POWER((1.208 - MIN(0.164, (0.215*A2)/(A2+100))), A2) - 15) (A2 being the class level)

[bleak gazelle]

w1-3 1m deathnote kills, 12m gmush kills on mman specifically

[acoustic solar]

@bleak gazelle damn, thats a lot of deathnote kills

[bleak gazelle]

great time to get your chows done for BB

[lusty stratus]

is gaming basically waiting for a big nugget or am i doing something wrong

[deep lodge]

Kinda

Also, you need to get the sailing artifacts that increase bit gains

And the few other sources

[lusty stratus]

more rng 💀

[echo crag]

cooking is another big bit gain

[deep lodge]

Did you already unlock all plants?

[lusty stratus]

nah just asking

[heavy moth]

Getting there... the road to 10T is still far

[lusty stratus]

still sitting at 2k nugget

[placid dock]

What's the best class for candying gmush typically?

[deep lodge]

Either an archer (high damage) or ES (bonus MK from tab 3 talent)

[placid dock]

cheers!

[pure spindle]

This is dope

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, thats such a good idea