lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[iron jolt]

cuz monster drops are trivial now

[vagrant mountain]

yeah apparently I had no idea what I was doing before

[ivory warren]

The mob drops would be better for vials and doing mass post office imo

[viral snow]

same
redid all my TD 2 weeks ago
went from the same stats you got to 360 total rounds

[sick sentinel]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Just try to pump your vman dmg where you can and boom talents

[iron jolt]

but i can just get em on ES, like 10m of ES is like a week of printed samples

so seems pointless to sample em no?

[vagrant mountain]

except I forgot I was active playing on my PC, and my progress didn't save

[ivory warren]

with 3D printer time procs from maestro, elephant it makes setting your ES on higher tier drops/rares more worth

[cedar zenith]

wot the hail is a balljoepickle

[deep lodge]

Incredibly lucky arcade loot

[viral snow]

just trash it
trust me

[cedar zenith]

guess im lucky but the name tho

is there any use to it

[echo crag]

give a vial for +50% arcade ball

[warm beacon]

Do not slab it in any circumstance

[sick sentinel]

Vial

[ivory warren]

While ES and others farm for keys for W5 boss I am slowly getting enough for vials since the W5 keys give much better boost to my characters rn

[deep lodge]

wtf? Never saw this art for players button

[sick sentinel]

I think it changes based on the lvl of your first char

[deep lodge]

Huh

Interesting

[viral snow]

i did notice mine was changed aswell
but i thought it was just through a patch or so

[opal pond]

active skills affects afk gains/damage right? the tooltip for damage doesn't go up after 20 points in an active skill for me at least shrug

[deep lodge]

Yes, but there's a cap to afk kills

[opal pond]

oh right

[cedar zenith]

he needs a armor upgrade what ore or boss armor should i go

[cedar zenith]

u live under a rock

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/MJuysKs.png

[deep lodge]

That's the one I got

[cedar zenith]

the othehrh one is what i hgot

wait

[deep lodge]

My name is patrick

[cedar zenith]

everyone gets different

[cedar zenith]

ohh then its rhihght

what armor to go with

[deep lodge]

The best you can craft? Probably void at your level

Maybe Chizoar

[cedar zenith]

i was tinking lustre....

look at that nasty dmg

he is in W5

[ivory warren]

boss gear is always better than ore gear, chizoar gets your through all of W5, troll gear is better if possible

[cedar zenith]

ill get chizoar

[deep lodge]

I went from amarok to void to magma. Nothing in between lol

[cedar zenith]

i got chizoar legging and boots on my bubo

[ivory warren]

and ofc molten and kattlekruk are better but since it looks like yuo jsut got here I would focus on chiz/troll

[magic fjord]

Ha... I went to do the Kattlekruk task and realised my fourth char is about four maps away from him.

Grind time. lol

[viral snow]

rex rings for fighting is the best

[ivory warren]

I went amarok to ephaunt on one character to chiz on all and now I am sitting at all troll one kattlekruck

[cedar zenith]

i just reacher W5

[deep lodge]

Don't forget you can change god twice a week, so a cheeky nobisect for a few hours is free

[cedar zenith]

and u cant candy world 5 i

i literally saved so many candies for W5

[ivory warren]

just wait until w6

then you can use them on w5 🙂

[cedar zenith]

yes

[magic fjord]

Ashamed to admit it, but I've basically got all my chars on the lab one. Really can't be bothered messing around switching things up.

Game feels more like work at times and that's the simplest option for me.

[cedar zenith]

i didnt know u cant candy W5

im at mr brightsides

[deep lodge]

Hoard the candies forever!

[ivory warren]

how many gods you have unlocked?

[vagrant mountain]

log in , collect dopamine, log off 😎😎

[cedar zenith]

i got 433 4 hour candies

[magic fjord]

All of them.

[cedar zenith]

im just too good

[viral snow]

eay to say when you got doot

[deep lodge]

I understand (and kinda want to do it), but the gain loss is kinda huge with no rabbit/omni

[vagrant mountain]

I think you can achieve dopamine without doot

[magic fjord]

IE tells me I have six chars on the lab one, and two chars doing the lab / divinity double up.

[viral snow]

impossible
my life has been a misery ever since i rolled sandy pots for the 3rd time

[ivory warren]

this is what I do, just can't connect to 1 jewel/feature

[vagrant mountain]

comparison is the thief of joy 😆

[tight ridge]

hey guys i just unlocked the atom collider, should i turn it on, and what setting should i put it at?

[deep lodge]

What do you do with all your guys if they're not in lab?

[deep lodge]

1050M max

Also, I think it's basically always on, you can't turn it off

[ivory warren]

maestro getting all skill cards to 4 star, everyone else getting W5 keys atm

[tight ridge]

you can theres a switch like the refinery

[deep lodge]

Yeah I know about the switch, but it doesn't work

[deep lodge]

Seems reasonable rn actually

[tight ridge]

okay i put it at 1050 but it seems like this is something i wont be able to explore till later cuz im still behind a little

i just got my first green stacks this week lol

[cedar zenith]

just

i wanna get to kattle kruk

[north juniper]

The keys for Kattlekruk drop from the moles right?

[deep lodge]

You need to focus on getting bigger oak log samples. They're your main atom source. Also, you need to put it at 1050 so that it doesn't eat your hard ressources at like 25m

[deep lodge]

Moles, crawlers and wurms

[cedar zenith]

moles crawlers and wurms

[ivory warren]

ye

[deep lodge]

Wurms being 3x better drop rate for keys

[iron jolt]

whats' the skill or whatever where kills help speed up eggs? can't remember what hatt is

[north juniper]

Dang. Guess I just need to keep killing the moles

[cedar zenith]

wurns have 1 in 25k i belive

[north juniper]

Still haven't had a key drop

[deep lodge]

BM with vman eclipse

[iron jolt]

oh is that he skill that upgrades the other skills? that's why I couldn't find it

[jagged relic]

Beast master whale skill

[north juniper]

That's a much better rate. I'm only at moles right now but hopefully they drop some

[deep lodge]

Btw for people farming keys at wurms, DK is better than ES (at least for my 100b dmg ES), I get like 2x more keys (40-60/h)

[burnt parcel]

so can companions be purchased on ios now?

[cedar zenith]

i finally decided to make a maestro got it bois

[north juniper]

I haven't updated on any of my devices 💀

[north juniper]

Congrats!

[viral snow]

not directly
but you can login to steam with your ios account and then purchase i believe

[cedar zenith]

i play steam

[burnt parcel]

i was going thru patch notes didnt know if he meant when this update hit there or not

[cedar zenith]

but i dont have that kind of money

im not 18 y'know

[north juniper]

There is that pet visibility issue so remember that

[tender pine]

How much defense does the last world 5 mob have? How much defense should I have at the end of world 5?

[viral snow]

think next update is supposed to fix it I guess
But not sure if apple will ever like the system tho

[cedar zenith]

now lava gonna go on vacations for 4-5 months and then randomly release W6

[burnt parcel]

last i recall its a bigger issue then that when your whole chara is invisible has that been fixed?

[cedar zenith]

like the update after troll boss fight was W5

[north juniper]

Wait a minute!!!!! Now I know why I'm not getting keys. I didn't update so kattlekruk doesn't exist for me

Dang it

[cedar zenith]

💀

[north juniper]

🫡 for the countless moles that have died in vain

[viral snow]

how did you play without update lol

[cedar zenith]

im dying i wanna candy W5

[deep lodge]

Last W5 map's crystal monster deals around 30k damage to 2.5k defense, so better gear up

[ivory warren]

from patchnotes

[cedar zenith]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[north juniper]

Just didn't do it. I didn't want my pets to disappear 💀

[paper ingot]

how much damage should i have more nightmare boss?

[cedar zenith]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[burnt parcel]

yea i didnt know if he meant when the update hit on ios or next update ya never know with lava XD

[cedar zenith]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[cedar zenith]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[cedar zenith]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[cedar zenith]

lol

[viral snow]

u good ?

[deep lodge]

stop it. get some help

[tight ridge]

is there a po box upgrade prio

[north juniper]

Yes, their specializations

[viral snow]

just max everything

[true obsidian]

this good?

[tight ridge]

i finished the alchemy box on my bubo now i dont know where to put next

[warm beacon]

It’s weird I didn’t update and my pets disappeared, so I just updated and now they are back and work on ios

[deep lodge]

10% mob respawn, that's it

[ivory warren]

yeah, usually the damage and skilling ones then the W5 skill or construction rate/alchemy rate/craft rate I think

[viral snow]

there are worse pendants

[true obsidian]

well then i can say it useless

i dunno why this mess up so much but i suppose to get reset 15 minutes ago....

why???

i already reset game

[viral snow]

did you cloud save ?

[burnt parcel]

odd to me that there was never a w5 collo added either

[true obsidian]

yes

[viral snow]

my reset was weird aswell today
crashed the game for me
but I was active afking for 7 hours then

[burnt parcel]

lmao active afk is such a silly term

[viral snow]

I also call it working from home

[noble mesa]

Hi u all
Dase minibosses caunt to boss kill in vman speed run?

[prisma drift]

Wave 70 lmao

[sick sentinel]

Just world bosses and only counts unique ones so always do the highest tier you can

[north juniper]

Huh that's odd. I've heard both happening so I just didn't take a chance. But man I want to clear that limited shop so bad. Those respawn keychains are going to be sweet.

[prisma drift]

Now do all the other ones haha

[vagrant mountain]

hehe need more tower levels to go further. I guess I was totally clueless about TD before 😆

[noble mesa]

Tnx

[vagrant mountain]

yeah gonna spend like 2 hrs today just doing TD 💀

[frigid acorn]

this thing only take a little time like around an hour

[warm beacon]

Look I’m just happy sheepie is working and don’t question it

[ruby hamlet]

i unlocked W5 today and i'm confused about sailing, i've got my 2nd boat and it requires a green ressouce to upgrade speed, i found that it was the ressource from first island but it seems i'm not getting any? (i've already cleared path to second island / gotten all relics from first island with the boosts we get at the start)

Is there anything special to do to be able to get those green treasure currencies to upgrade? because i've gotten lots of gold bars but 0 of those from all those first island chests and my loot box shows 0 ressources discovered at all

[frigid acorn]

rare treasure

gold bars mean no found

[ruby hamlet]

but i'm looking for the common one (left side) not the rare one, or is even the common one a rare drop?

[true obsidian]

what's your tower lv? i barely reach 110 wave :<

[true obsidian]

here is the list

[frigid acorn]

you still got pretty high chance to get nothing for it

[true obsidian]

and yeah, you still have chance to get nothing = gold bars

[ruby hamlet]

yea the one you have 108K off, is it normal i've got 0 after using something like 7 sailing bottles?

[true obsidian]

uhm...

[frigid acorn]

kraken at 42 poison 52 void another all like 60ish

[true obsidian]

you should save them

in early they not do much

should save them

you can't farm them

[frigid acorn]

you would like to save them to at least 10 boat or smth

[true obsidian]

it's a limited item, once you use all, you can't get more

[ruby hamlet]

i expected the early boost from having a few artefacts would help? better to wait then? but in that case how long should i expect to wait until i can start upgrading boat 2 because 0 of those so far sounds, well, as low as it can get

[smoky ravine]

Just unlocked eldritch, how they hard to get?

[ruby hamlet]

(i would've thought the relics would be way rarer than the normal treasure?) just making sure i'm not messing up / bugged

[sharp wind]

Is DR useful for giant mobs?

[frigid acorn]

yes

you would really like to start beginning of reset giant with DK

[smoky ravine]

I meant how hard are the eldritch artifacts to get?

[prisma drift]

Depends on the artifact

But some are like 1/3000

[frigid acorn]

0.00003% like that rate

[prisma drift]

Ok I haven’t seen one that low yet

Is that like the last artifact?

[frigid acorn]

those stat are from IT idk how real it is

[prisma drift]

My fury eldritch is .02%

[frigid acorn]

not even the last arti

[prisma drift]

.00003 is like 1/millions lol I hope it doesn’t actually get that low

[ancient quail]

Can someone explain me the "scaled skill efficiency" from the god? I understand that it aids your lower skilled chars but how does it work?

[prisma drift]

That’s the last stamp I need (minus arcade)

I’ll get the arcade ones eventually

[bright quail]

does the 12 million spore kills for vman have to be done on mman or anyone

[ancient quail]

mman

[bright quail]

allright thanks, still not that bad

[warm kayak]

i got to W4 2 weeks ago, so now im wondering if I should be rushing W5... any tips?

[frigid acorn]

spend more time at grind

[fathom lagoon]

Fmj + Shaq to 50 ish

And use food

[prisma drift]

Did you pull doot?

[fathom lagoon]

I did my friend

[prisma drift]

I swear you had dootless in your name

[queen raft]

W5 is good for rushing

[fathom lagoon]

I changed it recently

[prisma drift]

Congrats good sir

[fathom lagoon]

Appreciate you brotha

Enjoying it

[warm kayak]

gz

best thing i got from the pack was a sheep

[queen raft]

If ur new to w5 u need lab levels, but if u can rush w5 you can do both, lab+div, so it can save a lot of time

[warm kayak]

can i push with void gear and fmj shaq at 40?

[fathom lagoon]

Oh def, I had amarok gear & gold helm lol

Just use food for sure

[warm kayak]

aigth tnx for the tips

[north juniper]

I heard that! Sheepie is the king

[narrow cloak]

what's this from? i wanna read the full guide

nvm found it

[limber ermine]

This is crazy I've opened like 200 chests and not a single eldritch. The changes of them dropping are Crazy low I feel.

[north juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-figured-it-out-kyle-south-park-i-got-it-i-know-gif-20423661

[north juniper]

Does the artifact purchase in the shop give them if you already have all ancients?

[limber ermine]

im not sure, I don't have THAT many gems to test it out 😦

[tacit tulip]

AFAIK no

It stays locked once you have all ancients

[frigid acorn]

200 chests is small make it 5000

[limber ermine]

oh jeez

[frigid acorn]

its all luck tho , i can get 2 eldritch a single day but none a whole month

[pure crown]

Is there another way to tell where your boats are going and recall them other than the map? I have all 20 boats unlocked now but due to the bunching on their trip, sometimes i can only see seven or eight on the map.

[frigid acorn]

IE and IT do have track

[balmy stirrup]

what is mean of king doot companion effect? does "Divinities" mean is divinity link? no need to link anymore?

[jagged relic]

Everyone is linked to every god

It's ridiculously OP

[echo crag]

get everyone to lvl 40 div and let them get even more op every time they lvl div doing other stuff

[balmy stirrup]

ohhhhh, so no need to link/unlink anymore., ow shid
ok thankss. i thought it is the meditating thing

[jagged relic]

Nope, don't need to touch that ever again

[fathom lagoon]

This is my plan

Everyone around lvl 21 rn

[echo crag]

get 1 to 50 for the stamp at least, but unlocking all the god should make that easy

[fathom lagoon]

It’s worth still unlocking so you can upgrade the div skill

[dapper prism]

@balmy stirrup @jagged relic U still need to link 1 char to purrmep (tiger)

[balmy stirrup]

ah okay thanks!

[dapper prism]

And yeh levels are relevant for the minor link. You still want to unlock all gods over time for their blessings. too

[dry sparrow]

I need someone that name starts with S and P to complete a quest carrot 14 blunder hills please

[untold saffron]

how many kattlekruk armour stones need to succeed for them to be better than W5 armour stones?

[dapper prism]

Could just check the stats quickly and math it out 🤔

[heavy moth]

are you farm normal or chaotic for necklace i did around 400 normal and 100 chaotic and got nada

😦

[untold saffron]

with the weapon power factored in do they just automatically become better regardless of failure

[deep lodge]

Fail everything and tell that again

[untold saffron]

you almost certainly won't fail 8 65% chances or whatever though

[deep lodge]

Also, weapon power is kinda ass

[dapper prism]

It's 1/100k in normals,
1/30k in chaotic,
Pretty low chance of why u havnt gotten it yet 👀

===
WP is good early game but becomes more and more useless the further you are

[heavy moth]

yea i know but with dr it drop way lower that 1/100K but ratio on key cost and odds + gem

do you wait to only do around 10 nm a day

[dapper prism]

Normal is always better in terms of keys, but will take longer

[deep lodge]

With 10DR that would be 1/10k, still really unlikely

[heavy moth]

yea did 300 gem XD not complaining,

yea unlikly but at best it would be 1/250 on nightmare with same dr tho will cost 17500 keys vs 10K keys for 10k try

just wondering if you guys are going for the llow odds or the multiple tries

[dapper prism]

Not the proper math btw

[deep lodge]

Well, first off i'm doing the merit tasks then i'll see

[dapper prism]

Getting a key back 40% of the time when the cost is 1 key will give you way higher return of keys than a 40% chance on 1 key at a 70 cost.

[hexed pine]

bro what is that😭

[hollow gulch]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[heavy moth]

yea was not including the key back

[dapper prism]

wrong channel

[hexed pine]

i thought magma weapons are the current strongest weapons

[deep lodge]

Did you miss the new update?

[hexed pine]

well i know the w5 boss is here

[heavy moth]

yea your right which make even more try than 10K for 10K keys

[deep lodge]

Well, that's w5 boss gear

[untold saffron]

6 kattle is the same main stat as 8 W5 stones. So its a case of how much main stat 1 weapon is power worth, if any

[hexed pine]

ah

understand now

krukarurkruk armour thing?

[undone steeple]

anyone got that image with what bubo setup needs to be?

[deep lodge]

Something like that

[undone steeple]

action bar and stuff

[hexed pine]

oh aight

[zinc torrent]

Does anyone have a lvl300+ sb and way over 100m dmg?????

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1125251335164534804/bubosetup.png

[dapper prism]

does 130 bil dmg count?
https://i.imgur.com/7miAqRo.png

[deep lodge]

Btw, concerning boss keys drops during boss fights. Does DR affect that, or not at all? What about vman talent? (The one that counds double kills for drops)

[sick sentinel]

Shouldnt since i believe only key refund is from one of the merit shops

[zinc torrent]

Yes I need some help getting some dmg with talents

[dapper prism]

Yup, not from a drop

[sick sentinel]

And i dont think vman talent worls on world bosses

[dapper prism]

The dmg is like 99% from accountwide stuff

[bold quiver]

the increased drop from lootbag?

[sick sentinel]

Im assuming they meant gimme gimme

[zinc torrent]

How tf

[bold quiver]

is it possible for a 1x key boss drop 2 gems ?

[zinc torrent]

I'm level 364 with 100m

[bold quiver]

cuz isometimes get 2 gems with maestro when im farming it

[dapper prism]

This sb was like lvl 250ish the other day, just started pushing all chars to ~400 as i was doing w5 quests

[sick sentinel]

I've gotten double gem drops too, only remember from chiz tho

[zinc torrent]

Like how u get the damage tho

[dapper prism]

Just the usual.. check your stamps, alchemy etc.

[sick sentinel]

I used to only use sb to farm chiz and im fairly sure it happened at that time

[bold quiver]

oh then it probably doesnt work

but its also very weird to drop 2 gems

[sick sentinel]

My mempry could be wrong but thats how i remember it

[bold quiver]

hm i have a bunch of chizoar keys, ill test it out since im farming gems

[zinc torrent]

I've done all that XD

[deep lodge]

Am I the only one getting freezes since the update? Like, couple times a day

[dapper prism]

What lvl is ur last bubble and stuff like that? how much agi

[sick sentinel]

I froze once with overnight es the day after the update

[zinc torrent]

Around 3k agi I think

[dapper prism]

yeh so i have 3x more agi

[bold quiver]

good thing about farming boss keys is that im going to 1B this vial lol

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/p7DZ1Y0.png
Is there any way to get higher skulls or is it just RNG ?

[prisma drift]

Rng and don’t wipe the whole map

If they don’t have anywhere to go you lose em

[viral snow]

aight will try
thanks

[cosmic tendon]

Found sb and bubo easiest

[viral snow]

wouldnt bubo clear the map pretty much ?

[cosmic tendon]

With bubo every time I’d have a bronze or silver (or a couple) I’d stop, respawn the whole map then individually kill the highest skull

[viral snow]

ah yeh thats smart

[flat hatch]

is there anything that can be done to accelerate divinity?

[viral snow]

lvl up gods

[cosmic tendon]

There are lots of div boosts

Sailing artifacts and upgrading the blessings are big

I found mantra on lab goats helpful

[flat hatch]

aha ok

So like the 100% option requires 359 div for me now, and i accumulate at 6 per hour with 6 players

just got into W5

[cosmic tendon]

For snake?

[flat hatch]

for bear

[cosmic tendon]

Just put as many as u can ideally 8-10

Then bear at least let’s u have ur lab setup while u get to goat

But if it’s more fun for u to play the other 4 without lab for 2 days that’s nbd grand scheme

[gentle inlet]

Is it me or does total damage is deceptively bad ? Got Kattlecruk god and leveled it up to 33 which gives +33% total damage and got only around +8% damage

[deep lodge]

It's additive to itself, so the more you have, the less new additions are gonna affect your real damage

[true kestrel]

It adds the % from other % damage sources, so it dilutes in the formula

Or at least so I think

[gentle inlet]

Alright I see

[true kestrel]

I have no idea what %damage sources add with what others

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah exactly unseen separations

[true kestrel]

But I think some add, and some multiply

And there's like some "addition" pools

And those pools multiply between them

Something like this:

(A+B+C)x(D+E)x(F+G+H)

Probably all divinity damage bonuses go to the same pool

No idea if there's more in that one

[deep lodge]

You can probably find the answer in #endgame-gen-chat if you search well

There's this exact analysis, but for money% sources

[true kestrel]

So, in short, Lava's magical mathematics

[cosmic tendon]

If nobi is on that alone would explain the dilution

*could

[bold quiver]

wont this turn purple anymore? from the x2 lab and x3 harieph?

[cosmic tendon]

With doot?

[bold quiver]

normal

[cosmic tendon]

Mine is still purple

[true kestrel]

With doot the colors are bugged

[bold quiver]

was purple yesterday =/

[true kestrel]

But out of doot seems to work fine for me

Ah, did you unequip the hare god?

No wait

[cosmic tendon]

Hate makes yellow

[bold quiver]

o.o

[true kestrel]

The lab, you need to be in the lab

[cosmic tendon]

Others blue?

[deep lodge]

Bugs out pretty often, it's just a display thing

[bold quiver]

guess it will fix itselft

[bold quiver]

yeah

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah if others are blue and they’re uploaded it’s display issue

[true kestrel]

The lab part is what seems to be missing, is the node unlit?

Maybe you took someone out of the lab that was connected to that node

[bold quiver]

just a display thing, thought there was something to do to fix it

[true kestrel]

Check just in case, I mess my lab up all the time

[bold quiver]

usualy just fix itself

[deep lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1117485605836836905/ezgif-4-5125072c01.gif?width=461&height=1364

Another example of buggy samples

[cosmic tendon]

QOL request for hover display actual print

[bold quiver]

time to farm more gems, it never ends, this limited shop was too expensive

[deep lodge]

Hope you're not forgetting to "if u love me let me go" every day

[bold quiver]

oh hell nah, i havent done that since i started playing

did 2 times and never gain

[deep lodge]

Same hahaha

[cosmic tendon]

Daily task, for the guild 🫡

[deep lodge]

But it's pretty good gems I think

[cosmic tendon]

U get like 8 per day average

[bold quiver]

indeed, same as 6 daily picnic guy

[deep lodge]

I've done the picnic quest once

[bold quiver]

picnic is one thing that i wish i could bring myself to do, its VERY good because of kebabs

[deep lodge]

Yeah, same

[bold quiver]

u need that for trophuy

[deep lodge]

You actually can get a good number of kebabs from W2 colo

[cosmic tendon]

It’s not worth it vs picnic

[bold quiver]

trophy is very strong for worship

[deep lodge]

I'm ready

[bold quiver]

its BIS and dif is very big

[cosmic tendon]

What specifically

All skill eff for alch and lab?

From unlocking?

Well it’s a ton of unlocks at the same time

And then on Mages u have the boost impact of wis on the skill eff multiplier

Tab 4 middle talent

[sacred verge]

best char to farm w5 boss keys?`ES?

[bold quiver]

idk man, my bubo farms faster, i tested it

[stuck elbow]

no fken way... i was just casually gaming not expecting anything

[cosmic tendon]

My wis is only 3-4K and my worship eff is under half a mil

[bold quiver]

meh from 63k to 100k decent

[stuck elbow]

was stuc kat 37k for like months then went up to 49k 3-4 weeks ago to 63 now to 100 lol

[bold quiver]

oh insane

[cosmic tendon]

Too many factors to compare I need to upgrade skull etc. and I didn’t check before I unlocked mastery the other day

[tough tusk]

oh come on i isnt even in 10k

[vapid steppe]

Which armor should i be using in my characs? i read it was Chizoar?

[hollow ledge]

is there like a strategy for pong?

[dreamy merlin]

be skilled ig

[hollow ledge]

it feel like it takes forever and the ball just decides to bounce randomly

also idk wtf is going on but my platform just randomly moves in the opposite direction i want sometimes

[dawn sand]

Guess it's time to finally farm out the magna knuckles recipie.... my Vman does so little damage to Kattlekruk 😢

[elder shuttle]

how to make it feel less shit to stand here lol

50hrs for a level

[bold quiver]

lv doesnt do anything there so dont bother

[coarse parrot]

Go slaughter a few millions, then get the W4 mini boss card

[echo crag]

but

[bold quiver]

that is actualy 5984309580943 faster if u use ballons

[spice void]

side note 300 small ballons would get a character to lvl 40

well 297 but still

[bold quiver]

depends on what part u are in the game, the longer u wait the more exp u get per ballon

[echo crag]

divine perls should work nicely for that

[true obsidian]

this suck

[bold quiver]

the first artifact is decent boost

the ancient+eldrich suck

[true obsidian]

this good

[narrow cloak]

Do holy pearls have a max level to use them by? Or do they give 40% class xp no matter your level?

[bold quiver]

where did u get that they give 40% lol

[narrow cloak]

They do to me used a bunch always gave 40%

[true obsidian]

simple answer

[bold quiver]

arigathanks

[true obsidian]

because you weak xD

[cosmic tendon]

At lvl 346 I go from 11% to….

[true obsidian]

this is 40%

[cosmic tendon]

21%

[true obsidian]

10%

[cosmic tendon]

10% exactly at lvl 346

[narrow cloak]

Anyone know when they start scaling down? Im wondering whens the most efficient time to use em

[bold quiver]

a lot

[true obsidian]

it's stop at 10%

[bold quiver]

8% at 358

[true obsidian]

i can comfirm that

[cosmic tendon]

That’s like asking when the most efficient time to use candy is

[true obsidian]

he 346 get 10% i get 10% too

[bold quiver]

i got 8% 358

[true obsidian]

so i think it stop at 10% minimum

[cosmic tendon]

When it helps u break a progress target usually

[true obsidian]

how???

[bold quiver]

? ask the orb lol

[golden osprey]

someone can tell me at which div level you reach the maximum "minor link" bonus?

[cosmic tendon]

Maybe prayer on?

[true obsidian]

maybe you have higher lv than me?

[bold quiver]

i got a few prayers who knows

[vagrant mountain]

I think there are diminishing returns so you never reach max bonus

[cosmic tendon]

Something affects it other than just lvl

[golden osprey]

oh, any good level to stop leveling div?

[cosmic tendon]

Never

[golden osprey]

lol

[bold quiver]

yes, once u get purmep

get purmep and u can stop for a while

[vagrant mountain]

just throw on tranqi after you unlock the gods

[cosmic tendon]

Just use the one where u don’t need to be at altar if ur gonna stop

[true obsidian]

you can't stop leveling divine, because you need to unlock more god

[bold quiver]

but imagine grinding for tranqi without the exp boosts from cooking? pain

[true obsidian]

i stop at god rank 13

[golden osprey]

i unlocked all gods and has some level 100 or more characters

[bold quiver]

wtf,

[vagrant mountain]

there are exp boosts from cooking? 👁️👄👁️

[bold quiver]

ofc lol, how do u think u can grind to 80 divinity in a few days '.'

from lvl 50ish

[vagrant mountain]

< me spending a week to level all my characters to tranqi

[bold quiver]

thats why u just unlock the gods uneed, forget that exists and get back to it later

[golden osprey]

i have 3 or 4 characters that has level 100 on div and most are level 80 or near of it

[bold quiver]

with massive exp gain

i get probably around 1k or more per hour

[true obsidian]

you can stop when total lv is 1000

[bold quiver]

or close to that i dont remember

[golden osprey]

ty

almost tho

[bold quiver]

do u already have over 20-50B g mush kill?

[golden osprey]

me? no

only 1 B

[bold quiver]

that skill exp from rift lvl 1000 on all stuff is so bad that i dont understand why it exists

lol why are u wasting time on divinity then o.o

its a pointless grind, just completion stuff

[golden osprey]

idk that's why i'm asking here if there is a reason to keep leveling lol

[sick sage]

Not pointless

25% is 25%

[bold quiver]

there isnt

[golden osprey]

skill xp as the last bonus
no sense

[bold quiver]

that isnt the problem, it could be the first boost, its still very bad

because its additive skill exp overlapping with thons of other boosts, so its neglegible

[golden osprey]

make sense

[sick sage]

where is my cape!

all the fkin obols

[bold quiver]

😮 what DR are u killing it with

[sick sage]

15

[bold quiver]

i couldnt drop anything yet

D=

[bold quiver]

meh i cant get anything to drop with even higher DR, sucks

[sick sage]

heh

1 neck

and 5 obols so far

[bold quiver]

i'll probably save 7k keys and spend all together

[sick sage]

yea

[dreamy merlin]

I an still confused how tf dr is that high

[tacit tulip]

I'm pushign 14 and I don't think I'm even close to tapping out the sources

it just kinda happens suddenly

[dreamy merlin]

im not even at 5x 😦

[tacit tulip]

Dice and pop obols will be your starting point then

[cosmic tendon]

And farm cards up

[tacit tulip]

pops are much easier to get since ES, probably a good starting point

[brazen hound]

bit confused that my UI has 6 captains but 5 boats.

supposed to be like that?

[tacit tulip]

you can scroll 🙂

more room

[cosmic tendon]

U unlock the slots with gold bars

Captain and boat unlock separately

[sick sage]

almost 4mil tremor worms per hour

[brazen hound]

omg.. theres a tiny little scrollbar I didnt notice

[cosmic tendon]

20 max

[graceful island]

This is insane, I've only just crossed the 10B mark

Can't belive you're in the trillions

[sick sage]

thats on my bowman

oh nvm

no thats my bubo

anny keyfarmerS?

[elder shuttle]

is there anything im missing or is it terrible to active on BB for lower lvl mobs especially?

no respawn mechanic

[echo crag]

bb is all afk

[elder shuttle]

yeah aight

[sick sage]

bb?

ohh

blood berserker

nvm im stupiud

yea its all afk

[cosmic tendon]

The fearsome chef

[sick sage]

the real grind is getting cooking to lvl 1000

thats the true endgame

[deft grail]

Gordon Ramsay

[cosmic tendon]

less scary

Ur 1 cape away from endgame

[languid vapor]

Wait is SB useful for other than crafting gear and gmush 😭

[sick sentinel]

Pushing deathnote

DR from plunder stuff

Smelting

[dreamy merlin]

alr did

[cosmic tendon]

U have full obol set personal and family and platinum drop cards and ur only at 5x?

[dreamy merlin]

Not the cards yet im working on those

[cosmic tendon]

Also P.O. Box it’s a good one it also gives crystal chance

[dreamy merlin]

also I barely have many obol slots so that prob part of the problem

[cosmic tendon]

Oh yeah that’s not full set

[bold quiver]

gotta grind lvl 3k family level

its very easy with W5 unlocked and bear god

[cosmic tendon]

U need all silver pop obols and up to sparkle rolled for +1% at base form (only one obol rolled per upgraded obol even up to sparkle)

Should say dice up to sparkle*

I don’t think u can be at 5 dr with full set. Even if u don’t have all the slots unlocked

[deep lodge]

lvl 96 sailing and this is what they give me...

[viral snow]

it clearly was time to resample
https://i.imgur.com/kzoUNDH.png

[untold saffron]

I'm putting off resampling until I 245 all my logging talents on every mage

[bold quiver]

sustainable character

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/p75o0X2.png
I spend all my books today already
And someone (definitely not me) accidently trashed all his leaves

[sick sage]

yup yup

got lucky

[untold saffron]

why is your barbarian not also doing copper

[sick sage]

because i dont want to

[gusty steeple]

4090 can't handle this game so this is what I gotta do to not lag

[heavy moth]

im probably forgetting something my vman as 13.84 dr and my DK had 14, i trasnfered most of item like new helmet and boots fomo chain, helmet and cape

[sick sentinel]

obols?

[heavy moth]

got all obols and card set plus card doubler

[cosmic tendon]

Star sign and doubler

[sick sentinel]

lootybooty?

[heavy moth]

lootybooty at 46%

[cosmic tendon]

Boss set, plunder kills

[sick sage]

prayer

[cosmic tendon]

P.O. Box

[frail mauve]

Which opols should i have on my dk and es? is there a post or guide for it?

[heavy moth]

yea was prayer thanks

[sick sentinel]

pop, dice for dr

[heavy moth]

only at 14.72 tho

[cosmic tendon]

In guide there’s an obol section

[frail mauve]

So small ones are gonna be pop and large dice?

[sick sentinel]

!guide has the setup

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[cosmic tendon]

Roll bronze pop to 3 and combine with unrolled to 4 for all circles

[sick sentinel]

like boogie said

[frail mauve]

Thanks

[dry sparrow]

4.7x drop rate is supposed to take a lot to drop pop obols? farming on my ES

[bright pike]

whats the 0 above the plunderous flag mean? thought it would change but i have 500 plunderous kills and its never changed lol

[dreamy merlin]

basically makes pop 1/20k

[cosmic tendon]

Probably 0 to a couple per hour

[dreamy merlin]

coins

did you not put a point into the coins?

[cosmic tendon]

It’s how many mobs are ready to respawn. It only racks up if u have more mobs trying to spawn than “fit” on the map

[bright pike]

tbh i didnt, but i did like 5 min ago and i have the sludge pet to 1 point got me to 30, so good to know tyty

[dreamy merlin]

there is no point in sb without coins

[bold quiver]

why are your prints small when u have over 2T dmg? o.o

[bright pike]

ah my b, kinda winged it lmao tyty. like 6 months on this game and still bad lmaoo

[bold quiver]

shouldnt u be at 1B prints?

[echo crag]

could just be lazy on resample

[dreamy merlin]

im at 2.4m bits,so close to shovel

[cosmic tendon]

Surely they resampled since doot

[dapper prism]

how long do you all like to save your Aracde balls?

[cosmic tendon]

This makes me think that ur a man who has a lot of balls

[deep lodge]

1k

[dapper prism]

I usually did around 500, but saving up to 1k too atm (on 700 atm)

[cosmic tendon]

Why do you like to hold your balls?

[deep lodge]

It feels nice to hold onto them

[sick sage]

i am not a proffesional resampler

i should resample more foten but i hate it

so i dont

[cosmic tendon]

So it’s just a comfort thing

No actual benefit

[burnt parcel]

i do 5k or so batches at a time

[dapper prism]

Damn, maybe i should aim for that xD

[deep lodge]

And by the time you're done, the refinery upgrade is gone

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t think I’ve even shot 500 balls in my life

5000

[burnt parcel]

the most was like 12000 i think i did in a day

[burnt parcel]

i do 5k balls per rotation to be more specific

[cosmic tendon]

But we don’t know when it rotates

Oh nvm

I guess u shoot before updating

Actually doesn’t the game not work when update is out

[burnt parcel]

i shoot as soon as update hits i go get them

[deep lodge]

You just got to not cloud save

[cosmic tendon]

Ah I see thank u. I thought maybe progress wouldn’t be able to save like that

[deep lodge]

I see. That's a good strategy, shooting your load as soon as it updates.

[burnt parcel]

lol sounds so dirty

[cosmic tendon]

Just shooting ur entire load for like 6 mins straight

It feels better than when u do it everyday

[deep lodge]

Aight time to stop

DK for key farming is quite good, i'm getting 40keys/h and 40pens/h too. And a shitload of wurm meat

That's twice as good as when I use ES, + i get pens

[bold quiver]

Does anyone know how much DR can uget from plunderous stacks? cuz i only have 3k stacks and im at 15,25DR

[deep lodge]

It's written on the talent

Ah wait

At max?

It's logarithmic

[bold quiver]

not max, but at what point does it become meaningless to increase plunderous

asking cuz someone might have calcualted it already

[deep lodge]

Well, it gets 10x harder at every "step"

[bold quiver]

i do know that '.'

[deep lodge]

Most people get to 10k since that's quite easy

[bold quiver]

but since i dont know the exact formula i cant calculate

[deep lodge]

And i've been seeing some 50k since vman update

[bold quiver]

hmmm

true, its easier to farm that now

[deep lodge]

At lvl 255 talent (3.78% per pow of 10):

[bold quiver]

ohh thanks, u are a love

gonna grind to 250k

[tacit tulip]

if the kattle update didn't drop I'd probably be at about 150k right now, it's really fast with the vman buff I just now have other priorities

[deep lodge]

I'm not that motivated

[bold quiver]

did u do that at citrines?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, was getting a bit over 1k an hour

[bold quiver]

i have nothing else to rly do atm

[deep lodge]

Damn, that's pretty good

[tacit tulip]

Specifically maxed out the SB talents that hit multiple mobs to increase the amount of big mobs you spawn

The piercing arrow, the hominh arrows, and the mini cannon balls

[deep lodge]

Still, 41days of active at citringe for an achievement and a tad more droprate is not priority atm...

[tacit tulip]

My current priority is w5 gloves recipe so I can make my vman less terrible for kattle

[bold quiver]

=[

why would gloves help tho

[tacit tulip]

damage/attack speed increases

[deep lodge]

Farming so that you can farm faster

[bold quiver]

meh neglegible

his gloves updates are so bad by how small weapon power scale dmg

[deep lodge]

Yeah but it goes from 9 to 10 speed

[tacit tulip]

yeah but I'm not really losing anything going for it, still printing atoms etc to improve my account overall

[bold quiver]

yeah true

i dont even have any W5 weapon for my characters, didnt grind the hampter

[tacit tulip]

a lot of your damage comes from popping off the big aoe to give you some breathing room before the moles get back, so that extra atk speed can help

[deep lodge]

More cooldown reduction when!

[jolly solar]

Anyone have recommendation for to kill w5 boss with blood zerker on nightmare?

[bold quiver]

most of my dmg came from punching the boss tho

when i did kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[tacit tulip]

yeah, but you can't puinch the boss if the moles are alive

so...aoe the moles, punch the boss, more damage if you can attack faster

[bold quiver]

no like, u kinda swap between punching the mobs and boss

there is enough time to do both if u time correctly

[jolly solar]

Just takes 3 days?

12.5b damage is soo slow

[bold quiver]

cuz the whip + coin toss clear a ton of moles

[tacit tulip]

3 weeks with my 6b damage 😛

[bold quiver]

yeah but not gonna lie, im more motivated to grind vman stuff now, he is BIS for boss farming, but i'd need probably 500-800T dmg to make it confortable killing it

[tacit tulip]

man just 245 booked skillage damage and it did...very little for my damage

[bold quiver]

ive done with 120B, wasnt so hard, very decent took a few minutes only

[bold quiver]

sameeeeeee dude, so sad right? i thought i'd get a big chunk from that D:

[modern plaza]

nice prints

[modern plaza]

yeah they need to be rebalanced compared to the other skills that skyrocket haha

[echo crag]

always better to check using hte wiki to see how big of an increase you get really

[tacit tulip]

books are so common it doesn't really hurt to waste em

[echo crag]

can still priorize where you'll actualy get some impact tho

[serene forum]

Man how are you guys leveling up main stat bubble to 3k easily? The atom bonus only goes up to 100 per day right? So what strat are you guys doing?

[sick sentinel]

50 atom upgrades per day but with larrrry can do 100+ bubble lvls. people do hourly clicks tho with prints taht pop out 1b of resources

[brazen hound]

does this mean loot pile never gets full, chests just gets better?

[modern plaza]

yeah i can’t to start atoming 100 per day, lets alone more than that kek

[brazen hound]

so I dont really need to upgrade loot capacity a lot

[dreamy merlin]

why is my nuget cake luck so shit

[echo crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cake-lie-the-cake-is-a-lie-cake-is-a-lie-gif-19992579

[serene forum]

Its trash. Leave it at 0. Since lootbox never gets full your missing double the chests

[dreamy merlin]

how?

[summer storm]

its only worth if you claim a lot of hours

with talent you get 20 chests

[serene forum]

Chests overflow when full. So even though ui shows 20 chests when full I actually am getting 40. The talent makes it so that it never goes full and never overflows.

And the filter is also bad. Rare chests arent that much better than regular ones. More chests mean higher chances for artifacts

[summer storm]

without talent i get 46 chests

[bold quiver]

u can store x2 the normal chests amount, so gotta check every 4H (if 2h travel)

[serene forum]

Id only say its worth it if your afking like a week

[dreamy merlin]

oh my max is only 11 so i didnt know it did that

[summer storm]

if you got like 20h+ i would say its worth with the talent maybe

[bold quiver]

and the extra chests from merit achiev ger overflowed, so at max u can open 50 chests total every 4h

[serene forum]

As post office and golden hampers also mean your sailing is procing multiple hours. Meaning you could be losing hundreds of chests

[sick sentinel]

people say that that talent starts to be good at 12+ hrs afk claim time

idk if that means only lootwise/exp or artifact too

[serene forum]

Yea you’d probably be getting 20+ without that talent

[summer storm]

techinacly everything above 4h is wasted in sailing

but giving up more than double chest isntead worth it quickly

[serene forum]

And its not like every chest will be base. With more chests overflowing the higher chance your chest has to upgrade

[dreamy merlin]

no my normal max is 11 the talent makes it so it stops at 10 but some are better

[summer storm]

11 + 11 stored boats

[bold quiver]

idk how accurate those rates of efficiency are, the only prove the guy posted on guide was some random ass pic that wasnt even tested for more than 50 times each

[summer storm]

= 22 chest without talent

or more boats idk how many you got

[dreamy merlin]

i only have 4 boats

[summer storm]

then just dont use it

if you check every 6h

[serene solstice]

freak yes

[atomic kiln]

big spender 😄

[serene forum]

How much money did you spend?

[serene solstice]

about 160€ or so

[atomic kiln]

dam!

[summer storm]

why lol

[atomic kiln]

but can u do this tho?

[serene solstice]

no xD

not nearly

rift slug still missing

[tacit sentinel]

Are those mob respawn keys worth it?

[barren otter]

yes

[modern plaza]

saw a 22mil the other day

[summer storm]

how do you get so much MK?

[dry sparrow]

Is worth using bronze pop obol or always go for silver?

[sick sentinel]

you can use a bronze until you can make a silver

[stoic verge]

Is there a way i chan switch around my characters places?

[dreamy merlin]

why and wdym?

[serene forum]

Is vial rift essential?

[stoic verge]

Because my vman is my 7th character and is much weaker than my others

[tiny laurel]

No, unless you swap your character elite classes once you make a character It stays that class, name and spot

[undone steeple]

does cranium cooking not work for normal cauldrons? is it just for liquids?

[stoic verge]

And i wanna get all the new stuff

[dense cosmos]

Anyone else saving their last character for new elite classes?

[sick sentinel]

cc works for cauldrons if you have characters in them. liquids go even without characters in them

[undone steeple]

i have characters on all cauldrons. weird that its not going up as fast as i thought it would

[modern plaza]

i’d say yes over time. like you’d want a couple 13s first before it bc actually a stronger add. maybe like 5 or so

[tiny laurel]

I assume Lavas only going to do succeeding classes or else he has to fix people characters. Pick what you want and token swap later ig

[sick sentinel]

one of the fun things you can do with rift vials

[modern plaza]

i’m slowly getting 13s, my vial completion is just beginning and i’m looking forward to the slow but marginal buff account wide at 1.02x

[serene forum]

Dang I definitely should save up statues until i beat the rift

I can easily beat it i think

[dense cosmos]

Is two vman dope?

[serene forum]

And i have like 5 13s

[dreamy merlin]

does that mean 5% for 3?

[dreamy merlin]

2 vman sucks

[sick sentinel]

Dunno if it does i dont pay enough attention lol

[sick sentinel]

Prob worth just using the statues to beef your account up. Takes 27 max vials to get there

[zealous niche]

Just buggy

[modern plaza]

so basically it’s kinda reasonable to get 40-50 maxed vials at end gamer level

[zealous niche]

There’s only meant to be one, two just breaks things

[serene forum]

What bug?

[zealous niche]

Vman

[serene forum]

All I know is that with 2 vmans id have to go on the vman with the biggest buff last

But i proc the print skill x2

[zealous niche]

If you have two, one of their account affecting talents don’t work.

It makes the second one only work fully, while the first is just talents that only work for themselves

True, but omniphau does that as well

[tropic kiln]

is there a way to farm w1 and w2 boss keys

I am guessing colo

[zealous niche]

Also post office

[tropic kiln]

thanks

[serene forum]

He didn’t add the option to change vman though

Unless i missed a shop item

[tropic kiln]

magma or kattle for rare drop farm

with es

[hexed crescent]

This is new..

[grizzled elk]

sneak peek at w6

[hexed crescent]

Graphics are now a p2w feature

[pure spindle]

“ “ is my favourite grind spot

[noble mesa]

In what languige is your name?

[narrow sable]

all F2P models are now drawn in MS paint to be launched next update

[vocal ibex]

Hello I need help with pet arena world 5 smokey lake.

[atomic kiln]

dam almost 17 on my DK

[vocal ibex]

I seen a video with 2 rattlers but I only have 1. Far from second.

What a pet I can use instead of a second rattler (

?

[orchid iris]

Is there a list somewhere of all the items that are actually useful to print?

[stiff prairie]

So if i have 2 Vman lines, it's best to only have 1 as vman, and the other remain as mman?

[tacit tulip]

Ratt loot mono def refill refill

Is what I'd hae used if I had 6 slots there, I did them all with 5 slots lol

[tacit tulip]

1. Almost all skilling materials (except maybe tropilog) have a use
2. Refinery materials (Sand, horns, sheep wool)
3. Vial materials on Vman
4. Other material bubbles
5. Stamp materials

A surprising amoutn are decent use

[lost depot]

Earlier eldritch are easy but they get very hard after the first few islands

[tiny laurel]

Should you farm mob drops with active/afk or print them? Obv printing Is inferior in most cases but with priorities over leveling and fighting should you?

[opaque sun]

may vary like from 1 day worth of claiming to a month to get an eldritch

farm active on ES, but also printing via vman’s samples taken during speed run is also comparable to ES farming

[tacit tulip]

That about sums it up yeah. ES if you want the material right now, but printing is a solid choice for those long haul ones like the 1b vials

[opaque sun]

And why do you concern “overleveling”

Only thing you need to keep check is skill levels which has nothing to do with mob drops

[tacit tulip]

Priorities over levelling, probs means skilling and the like has a bigger priority

[opaque sun]

oh sorry misread

[orchid iris]

what ddo you mean ES?

[tacit tulip]

elemental sorcerer, best "normal mob" farmer

[orchid iris]

I'm trying to pre prepare before I get into full resetting all my printing stuff, feel like ive really been neglecting it entirely

[tacit tulip]

primarily due to how his portal skill works

[orchid iris]

Ive got 8 printer slots per char so I was gonna use char 8 and hit a few maps on W1, char 7 gets a few more and into W2 etc

so overall droprate is biggest factor in printer?

[tacit tulip]

droprate doesn;t impact printer at all actually

AFK gains, respawn speed, and multikill are your big factors

Oh, and printer sample size

[opaque sun]

vman gets a very high temporary boost of multikill and respawn rate during a speed run that immensely helps with the samples

[tacit tulip]

I really should go take some vman samples sometime...lazy

[haughty cove]

good?

[hollow ledge]

p decent yeah

[tiny laurel]

Nice I just got my first green stack. I thought It was 1 billion but ig its only 10m

[sharp ruin]

Is kruk armour even better than magma? Losing the all stats buff feels bad

[tacit tulip]

It's a net gain for damage, a loss for stats for sampling/skilling, a gain for drop rate, and a massive gain for afk fighting

[lost depot]

Kruk armour has more base stats so it might still be better

[sharp ruin]

Helpful, thanks 🙂

[tacit tulip]

overall I'll be moving everyone to kattle sets and keeping a couple magma sets in storage for sampling if I really want to

of course my vman is still suffering from no recipe

almost done with suggma vial tho

[pure spindle]

This varies depending on max primary stat no?

As in if you have high wis on bubo or wtv magma would win out?

[tacit tulip]

not sure. If you have 1000 wis, and lose 5% all stat, you have 950 wis, which will be about a 5% drop in damage

if you have 10k wis, and lose 5% all stat, you'll have 9500 wis, which is still a 5% drop in damage...

[pure spindle]

Wouldnt alchemy bubbles make that untrue?

[tacit tulip]

I mean you could just make a set and find out ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pure spindle]

There was a comparison in here yesterday

Its what im going off of

[tacit tulip]

you could prolly mix and match to optimise too, the hat is like 30% damage whereas the legs are only like 6%

at the very least keep a magma set for bubo cause of wis coin%

[opaque sun]

afk farmers use full divine set.
gmush killer uses divine body and pants, and rest magma.
Active farmers uses divine head and boots.and rest magma.
Sample (mining and chopping) uses magma head, body and pants

Divine armors are basically utility sidegrades, while magmas are more pure power

[magic ginkgo]

when you trying to get obol

[pulsar heart]

how many vial masteries for 100% statue deposit from snake vial

[sick sentinel]

27

[inner ravine]

At what lvl can I use atom for diamond chef

[sick sentinel]

It varies depending on your cost reduction for bubbles

I dont remember what mine was when i could do it

[tacit tulip]

it's about 85

on that note, guess who just noticed he can atom his diamond chef 😄

[sick sentinel]

Just dont forget you can turn off the vials doubler in lab when you are close

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[vocal ibex]

@tacit tulip ty

[barren otter]

[tacit tulip]

been neglecting my cooking anyway, like 3 ladles per level up for me

Have like 5 k ladles just don't wanna give myself carpal tunnel

[sleek tree]

ES or DK for more %% drop rate and chance farm itens?

[tacit tulip]

Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals, though do spawn more mobs), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops

[sleek tree]

Tyyy

[sonic monolith]

Question about divinities

If I get king doot, does that mean that the goat divinity makes my characters always gain divinity because bear always connects them to lab?

[tacit tulip]

yes, but you can't do what you're thinking 😛

Goat requires you to be physically in lab despite bear existing, we knew from testing it with ES

[sonic monolith]

Damn...

Would have been nice having my toons out farming while gaining divinity

[deep lodge]

Don't worry, doot already trivializes divinity

[tacit tulip]

you still need the levels for the minor bonuses, stamps, and mastery, but yeah it's not a huge worry if you have doot

[sonic monolith]

I don't have him yet anyway, so it's all just pipe dreams for now either way xD

[undone steeple]

omfg poing is infuriating

[sonic monolith]

What's the upper-end sorta sheet dmg of people looking like in general these days anyway?

[tacit tulip]

People have "T" in their sheet damage now

[sonic monolith]

Trillions? 👀

[deep lodge]

Three

[sonic monolith]

Uh...

And here I was proud of 8m max roll sheet dmg xD

[tacit tulip]

there's randomness involved with the enemy's pad, which is why it sometimes pings off in a seemingly random direction. Only advice is always position yourself in a place where you can move if you need to.

you can still get screwed by lag/rng, but it helps a tonne

[bold quiver]

ez 1 kill after finishing the mission

[tacit tulip]

a low population server is also a really good idea, as it lowers lag spikes when playing

[undone steeple]

oh i know, i caught that the frst time it was going to shoot straight and it bounced to the other side

also a massive lag spike while at 10k points. fucking srsly

i just want the achiev and move on

[tacit tulip]

[bold quiver]

is this 100% guaranteed? 🤡

[tacit tulip]

the Dr from NM kattle isn't terrible to be fair

[bold quiver]

gotcha so easy wings

[tacit tulip]

1/2500 at base. Assuming 15 DR, that's 1/166.

I think most bosses get 3 rolls for each drop? So about 1/60 from NM

[undone steeple]

im not stopping until achiev

[somber sparrow]

any1 here knows if talent tab 4 stamp is bugged? just leveled it like 10 or 12 times but got no points - changed map, went to char select and reopened game

[bold quiver]

hmm i see, gonna grind more keys, very expensive

[bold quiver]

it isnt

[somber sparrow]

but

[tacit tulip]

But yeah it's definitely viable to grind the 10 for blankies

[deep lodge]

Btw, for the last quest: Do you need to have the quest active when you get the drops? Or can I do the quest once I get the drops. I cba doing these moles and crawlers kills

[sick sentinel]

Its like ghost quest in w2

[deep lodge]

Shit

[bold quiver]

for active gameplay that neck i sgood, but for afk its worse than blankie, sadge

[dreamy merlin]

reload map

[somber sparrow]

changed map, went to char select and reopened game

[tacit tulip]

Is your lab active? Most common cause is you've spent points, then lost the vial doubler that doubles the tab 4 vial, putting you technically in negatives

[dreamy merlin]

prob are in the negatives somehow then

[bold quiver]

wow

[somber sparrow]

THANK YOU! forgot i took 1 out for key farming

[dreamy merlin]

are you tryna max that rn?

[bold quiver]

i want more character exp, my people are stuck at 360ish range D: too slow to level up now

[tacit tulip]

Farming Vman glove recipe but that's a secondary goal yeah

[dreamy merlin]

Nice

[tacit tulip]

It'd be nicer if the recipe dropped 😄

[somber sparrow]

how many kills r u at?

[tacit tulip]

It's not a proper indicator cause MK messes with the amount

but 414m @ 13 drop rate

[somber sparrow]

sheesh

[tacit tulip]

yeah the game isn't being kind to me

[paper ingot]

what are the best things to upgrade to get a higher copper print?

[tacit tulip]

The red alchemy bubbles for the most part

[paper ingot]

alright ty

[tacit tulip]

also the multitool stamp if you have it

but that's quite a hard thing to get

[paper ingot]

yeah it gets expensive\

[somber sparrow]

first one infinity - 2nd one 450, third one 900, big bubble 185 (amounts to 90% of the theoretical maximum bonus of the bubble)
These do a very big part of sampling

[sick sentinel]

Also max skilled dimwit, get afk gains

Make sure your mining ore multi is at 300%

[paper ingot]

what is high for afk gain

[somber sparrow]

Dimwit, sampler and afk gain prayer - if you get above 200% afk gains youre pretty decent 😄

[paper ingot]

thats what im forgetting

[somber sparrow]

unless you have doot, then 200 isnt very top notch 😄

[tacit tulip]

300 range is the goal for doot haha

[sick sentinel]

Oh yeah sampler. Check the construction skill tab in character info to make sure you get to 90% sample rate

[paper ingot]

i didnt even know i could check that lol

alright looks like i gotta get alc up

i got 92m but i think all thats left is alc and stamps

im at 247 afk gain i gotta try to get that higher

[tacit tulip]

alc is more or less the primary answer to everything in the game

[cosmic tendon]

Is it possible to hit 90 without sampler?

[sick sentinel]

Not rn

[tacit tulip]

Maybe for DK, but not anyone else

[placid mural]

Can anyone confirm that you get the same amount of genes/exp regardless of which world/pet/how far down the pet list for each world you go, or if it's a regular or shiny?

[tacit tulip]

Yep, exp is based on the BM exp talents, the total unique number of pets you have unlocked, and the rarity of the egg

[placid mural]

I wish there was a way to get more genes. . . .

[cosmic tendon]

I think that’s all about dk in collo

[tacit tulip]

DK orb in w4 colo produces a fair few eggs 🙂

[cosmic tendon]

That’s gonna be way more than increasing incubation time and hatching before full

[tacit tulip]

Should prolly open all those and finish off my fenceyard

[brazen hound]

does this mean putting points into anvil storage space is pointless now, since as soon as space is full it will move product to the stash?

[somber sparrow]

how many is that per run

[glacial venture]

once per day

[untold saffron]

oh my sweet summer child

[sick sentinel]

It only works at reset

Or somethin like thay

[somber sparrow]

only at daily reset and only for the first character you log in

[untold saffron]

one character once per day

[tawdry steeple]

bigger the storage, + more bars

[tacit tulip]

Can't remember, I did a fair few for troll keys

[cosmic tendon]

Anvil capacity was always pointless

[tacit tulip]

A few points in capacity isn't the worst choice in the world now we can atom the green bubble

you can still max a full colo bag out pretty fast as it is

[sick sentinel]

Can always reset anvil too

[brazen hound]

hao?

[sick sentinel]

W3 shop at the bottom is a whetstone

[somber sparrow]

w3 town shop

[sick sentinel]

Resets char anvil points

[brazen hound]

ooooooooooo

any build suggestions?

[tacit tulip]

at this stage of the game I just go all speed and let pure numbers carry my exp

capacity increases with your monster material bag space

[cosmic tendon]

The cap is coming from ur mat bag

[brazen hound]

yea I dont need exp anymore. Im at lev 60+ smithing

[cosmic tendon]

U need exp

[brazen hound]

why?

[glacial venture]

more dmg?

[tacit tulip]

at 71 you don't really need it anymore