#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ
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my sb is linked to nobisect; does that mean only my sb gets the minor link damage bonus from said god?
Yes and only that SB
ahh ok ty
And do note that nobi damage bonus is small as its additive to existing total damage bonus
For example, if you have 10000% total damage, nobi just makes that 10100% damage
yea im not actually sure how to increase the minor bonuses
i have nowhere near that so ill take what i can get lol
minor link gets bigger % per linked characterβs divinity level
...ah. mildly unfortunate since i wasnt planning on really leveling div on this sb
later on you should and will level on everyone
yea i believe it
regarding sailing is there soemthing i should upgrade for my boats over the other stuff? since the req mats go up for everything anyway is there something i should focus on
ive mostly been upgrading my ships' speed
For captains you want speed and/or loot value
1 left
i meant more the ships stats since i cant really do anything about captains' right now
Main thing is to check the breakpoints, go on IE and mousehover, loot is every 8 and speed every 7 upgrades where there's a big jump, so if u just hit a breakpoint on one ship you could do the other a bit
ah ok
Early on make sure you can hit the island in two hours and then go for loot until you need to do the next island too
also try and invest in more ships/captains when the gold comes in. helps a lot
i have the first 3 islands so far
now its SB turn to tackle nightmare kattle (yes his name is SB)
anyone know where the constellation is on niagrilled falls in w5? i cant find it
Lol damn you have like 10x more damage than me. Wtf am I doing wrong?
probably because i am a beastmaster! i get strenght from my beasts
is that your max dmg build?
Ahhh right yeah I thought u were Sb as well
I actually had less dmg as bm before swapping π¦
And yes that's my highest
how leveled are those damage/stat stamps and last alch bubble? wondering
thats normal, u are just scaling dmg, takes time
my archer class is my weakest leveled on alchemy , nothing fancy
oh yea finaly hit 1T on SB too
I'm not, boost chip is on my dk
they give a big chunk of dmg. Card doublers + Star sign doubler
keychain also strong if u have some good ones
@vocal flower done, my final form. His talents are all lvl 100- 150 max tho
How do you get such a massive stat gain?
equipped cards and chips
But cards max out at like +60 main stat?!
I'll admit, I don't have the doubler chips though
main stats? i dont know
all my cards are total dmg
NOw the next battle will be the hardest, my vman
Bubble 1 is a good boost
wonder how i'll be able to clear it '.'
how do i deal with the hoard of moles?
only hit moles
hmm kinda like the barbarian fight but more mole oriented, i thought so
ye
barbarian i had to keep swapping between boss and mole
whats ur dmg
i can probably get 100B
damn thats higher than me
its 50B without going yolo but imight be wrong, need to check
Do you have lootymcbooty on.
did u finish getting the strong relics for dmg already?
I always feel like there must be a part of the game im just forgetting to do entirely hey
is the super chow enhancment on apocalypse chow broken atm? i have 10 monsters with 100m+ kills on my blood berserker and still says i have 0 super chows
Probably alchemy
Only 2nd bb works
if u have 2 it only count the 2nd
the what lol
artifacts?
yea sry
Crystal steak prob
I have ancient steak, but only regular for the final 3
has lava mentioned anything about fixing that?
yeah i have the relevant dmg arti eldritch
my first bb is a lot better then my second
Don't think so
ill check my max dmg now just give me a moment to swap
You can class swap
welp i guess its time to change jobs on my other bb
my max i could get to was 78B
How do I get a link for IE? Maybe someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong lol
!ie
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
once your in click person icon in top right and upload
Yep then what?
where you uploaded should be a link you can copy and paste
@sick sentinel yeah, almost got it right
I can copy the website link? Lol
daaamn you'll be quick af
π«‘
never paid attention to this, but do i have to carry with me all my cash?
i dont know how important it is but i had godshard on me anyway from stamps lol
lol ill bring just to be sure
gonna wait 14 minutes before battling, i wanna book gilded sword talent, its only 198
what are you wanting help with btw? general progress type stuff? first things first do you key quests on every char for every world
all i want to do is play poing πΏ
More just why I have 10% of the damage of everyone else
how did so many people get it so quickly
w5 is a sinkhole of account progression kkkkkkk
19b is my max damage on my highest, and I have similar gears/stats
your mainstat bubbles are low
Dmg just keep scaling as u play daily
So I feel like I'm missing something obvious
1hit NM kattle with vman is endgame now
eldritch crystal steak artifact is big
ive started to lvl my mainstats bubble a few days ago
10k stat usually only bring tenth of b dmg
sry for the double picture BUT i wont be able to lvl up my GT anymore , wouldnt wanna piss off the dark lord
green stacks are also fairly low
no worry try 6969
69420
i really need to know where is my stat come from
so i can compare to other where i lacking
if only ie do that
1B vials should be a nice place
is the mob respaws keychain in gemshop worth?
its best in slot for any afk fighting
ok tnx!
make sure to grab helmet too if u can. Only premium hat with DR, very important later on
yeah already bought it for my SB because i liked the hat XD
yes
one of the many reasons why its good
lol should have maxed that before i farmed a ton of statues on DK kkkkkkk
i need to play dk again, waiting for him to finish the npc quest first
how high are your statues lvl? i stopped at 150
wow thats very high if u think about how hard it is go level up after 160
i have played bubo and ES the most since they came out
yeah the requirements are very hihgh
but worth it for the cons gains
i need toplay bubo more, i think ill do that after i finish 1B all vials
niiice
which logs should I not keep in printer? I've run out of spots now
u need all logs for something, so u need to check which ones u dont need anymore
tropilogs arent necessary
u have 3 MAGE usualy, so u can pick some on each
yeah i split mine up like that between mages
sounds good, thanks all
these are the stamp ones, last one i needed for some bubble
Wait, did u guys realized that lava fixed the loot message?????
ts not showing a kilometric number anymore
i can get more on my bubo
time to level up my characters π
hmm almost 100% sure, with 13,79DR and 140 portal score its not good
Only 140 portal 
well, this is an embarrasing comparison
when im done with the npc quest i'll test the 3 main classes and see
yeah just from hoppin on my bubo to do CC it feels like he drops more keys

lol im not stressed, i know a single character is not the basis, its account life as a whole
just happened to be a perfectly timed out picutre
yeah, I put off leveling my characters for a long time, I'm decently progressed in everything else hehe
plus doot is op
i cant get my characters to 400 properly with afk gains, not strong eenough
Is that vman coming soon?
they skyrocketed to 350 by doing the quest and stopped there, slowpoke leveling now

yeah im gonna have to hold off doing proper leveling til maybe doot shows his way into my life
Leveling is easy without doot
on the plus my ES has almost cracked 25 mil
I did 300 on everyone without him
i just mean im lazy and dont want to juggle lab with bonuses
I still need to unlock rift and get past wave 10 on frosty firefight π
Fair I had 6 man lab
I rushed w5 there's so much I need to do
So I could level 4 at a time
the differences LMAO... im at about rift 16 and wave 40 on Frosty
10.......
my account is so scuffed ππ
I just did some TD today
I just put off leveling my towers for so long
i didnt get much lab life while i tried to rush w4, and then they all went to div until i got goat. and they all just got put back in tubes last night π

a little behind...
holy moly, for how long had u been posponing sampling
might want bleach log
3 months?
ya lol
I beat wave 10 but I can't get to wave 20 π
how bad are your towers
about to get 25 boulder
I feel like itβs also that he just doesnβt do TD with his hunter
Wave 20 is pretty easy lol
I do but I realized I forgot to level up my snare when I was doing it
boulder 25 should be able to go much further but that has been a long time ago for me
Yeah I did wave 20 with like boulder 13
i did mine on my DK earlier cuz that who i had when i thought about it π
haha I think maybe I'm spamming next wave too much too
ahhhh
Also donβt touch your towers π
i just get greedy for dem extra pts
Leave some space so they donβt all get stunned from one dude dying
and it's scuffed on mobile, I've been on vacation using remote desktop for my pc
ty, I honestly had no idea they stunned you when they died
Yeah yellow enemies are stun enemies
I thought it was a cooldown ting
Purple teleport when hit
ohhhh
Green heal
purple becomes cancer when using kraken in w3+ TD unless got void tower unlocked
Not sure lol
thanks, Ive been so ignorant about TD, the only TD I've played was Bloons π
They go so fast 
I got void unlocked tbh I have never even placed one down ππ
what does it do
Clears traits
op
...has a void..... Thats like easy mode man, you got this
also wish lightning has built in ability for hits to be unavoidable if going against blue mobs
Even at level one itβs a huge upgrade to your TD game
like give lightning some extra use other than slow burst damage with high dmg/lvl scaling
so after a 4 hour test i am getting about 50-55 keys an hour with DK at 13 DR at wurms
Lightnings use is giving other towers crit chance 
13 DR.. my lord
i cant even manage 5 yet
tried to get dice obols last night.. ended up with 1 over a 7 hr stretch
effectively 10% damage buff so yeah, sad it caps out at 50% because a crit is only 150% dmg even if 100% crit rate
Dice obols are about crystal chance more than DR
And choco chip makes that a lot easier
yeah i dont have choco, and im not sure ill have the mats next time it comes around
I have 3 choco chips
my crystal chance is only like 1 in 120 something. horrible
get genie from W4 leveled up as much as you can, and poop from W1
How tf do you equip the scarf to complete this quest? wings just dropped. 
both are 3* currently
And save for card doublers and choco lol
Those three chips are broken for crystal farming
there are card doublers? how I buy 29 chips and still not have all of them ππ
its cheap and rotate alot this year
Time to whale harder I guess lol
do you only need 1 of each and you can transfer to each chararcter to unlock?
Need 10 of the top and 10 of the bottom doublers π
apparently
actually i might be able to do that.. in a decade or so. thats a lot of pinions
it's ok, you have until December to collect them π
Only thing I can think is you had it equipped when you accepted quest?
Could be lava code
well i did discover Dk in the colos today.. ended up with a couple lustre coins and used that to max anvils. guess i know what im working on
equip it in either the boss room or mole zone.
Thanks! this worked

wings look cool, but are really bad.
sad noises
doot doot go away

Go doot yourself
this quest makes me cry.. this is months in now.. though i havent really focused on it
Anyone know if you have to loot the cape per character or if you ca. Just transfer it?
can you transfer wing to another to complete the quest
apparently not
need them to actually drop for you >.>
Yeah its like the ghost quest in w2
so its like nugget nightmare
maybe lava will make cape premifier
skill issue
ok so i entered nightmare boss battle with my vman, missclick and entered portal again. Wow
always a skill issue with me.. seeing them green for you makes me cry though
I am stuck grinding for Eldrich Fury Relic, but my average chance per chest is 0.03%. I have all characters with golden hampters and sailing bubble. My tusk is eldrich as well. I do not use the SB talent and set min chest to iron. I get an average of probably 240 chests per day. Is there anything I should do to boost the artifact find chance?
Get doot 
pray
Hahaha
Unless already 10 elephants
I do not do doot or elephants. Damn.
Reading this while clicking my chests like
I am trying to push bone armor
Im pushing all my characters through w5 now
Was being lazy but they all have multi so itβs pretty fast
Yeah. That is close to my artifact percent, but my min chest is iron. Mainoy because I do not check every hour.
That is cool. I am just now almost done. I feel the pain. You got this. I was hoping I was missing something big in sailing. I guess I just need to pray.
yeah
I've the same setup as you, although I removed that talent. I find that checking in every 4 hours ish gives me 50 chests, then hope for sailing procs as I claim afk with other characters. Each proc is another 50 π
Yeah. I do not use the sb talent either.
Ain't much, but it's honest work
so.. i took that talent off my sb.. and it seems like it still does it? oh snap i just realized i have 2 sb -_-
I had to remove it from both talent sets from both SB's, otherwise it still triggered
Yup that was it
Haha. I did that too and got screwed for two months.
it didnt click till just now
is 2 SB still good?
Why remove sb talent?
I got a LVL 21 beginner waiting for W6 elite classes
nothing has changed
touche
The question is more "why would 2x hunters be better?" π
3 squire though 
How is that going to work with whatever skills are released?
we just do 2 SB because beastmaster is very bad and we dont want 4 of the same class
3 squire breaks the positioning of yang cogs, not good
the whole world is another rift 
honestly "waiting for w6 elite classes" is just my excuse to not touch it cuz I'm lazy
put ur beginner on skills
they have that one talent for all skill xp
might as well
SB is the laziest class tho, U throw at GMUSH and forget it exists '.'
there isnt anything else to do it
his whole purpose is to collect elephant gains
both of mine are currently in tubes leveling lab
I'm so grateful to have been super lucky with don't day 1 of companion release, now I have 8/10 characters working on 1bil DN kills
Doot*
the horror of 10th character
heh
And consistently the SBs have the highest kills per hour
afk kills right?
i think i might get shovel tomorrow 
The nug slog begins!
How much of a multi is it base?
whats the base minimum
1 probably
Does pong increase bit multiplier or is it just a little minigame with an achievement? Trying to decide whether to get double exp superbit or save up for pong
i think it gives multi
hmm if it does then that could be worth
oh sick ty
was trying to see if the wiki had something about what multi it started at. nothing
Is this where citringes are at?
Do wormhole monster's HP depent on the base monster for the map or they are all the same, regardless of location, and just change the sprite?
base hp, that's why you can't use drop rate prayer
yes
also each kill = more hp
No you wont xD (Once you start seeing the freeze frames)
freeze frames π¦
I know. I just wanted to know if killing green shrooms from wormhole would be easier than big wurms
portal mobs scale off of base mob stats so yeah
What is the biggest progression I get when I'm In w5
Sailing
Like not w5 exclusive but what progresses me thr most when I get to w5
Biggest spike is in cash flow
You immediately get a very large bonus to your cash, which you can use to invest in older content
Ye the mouse artifact
The lil japanese kitty thingy
You can use the new chunks of damage to push GMush kills too
I can't reach the lab mode yet
mmm
Even with like 8 chars and bubo buff
Unless I ignore the refinery buff and like everything else which isn't worth it
Yeah don't ignore any other bonuses to push to the gmush coin one
Keep them all active in order where possible
What do u mean in order
Like don't beeline for a further node if it means not reaching the previous ones
Also having your bubo on far right of the lab node board helps with exp via his green tube talent
I have him on left for the connection range
bubo even can be offline (red cross) as long he is placed there
The green tube purple tube only looks at the left right position of bubo
Wait everyone on lab is arctic tho
Well if no one is lab exping i guess you can keep bubo far left
But if you need that purple tube talent to connect, it means your guys should level lab anyway
New rift bonus that might be cool: Lab Mastery?
im gonna gamble with 50% once i can
might regret it but meh
unlocking divinity with doot π
fr though, it is kinda ridiculous how much progress I've made since hitting w5 with doot, elephant procs, 30% afk, nobisect, 6x printer on everyone is kinda gross, I almost feel bad
not to mention minor link bonus once you got divinity level rolling
yeah, and I was able to collect mantra exp while everyone sat in lab
Speaking of King Doot
If I have King Doot, is there ever a reason for me not to be in Lab to earn divinity?
no reason to sit on the altar if that's what you mean
tbh I'm not sure how linking to both bear and goat interact
except to choose a stance
you dont gain lab gains=no div gains
you could alr test that with es
oh ok so you've gotta be in Lab for the exp claim and therefore the div claim
can you refresh me on what goat does π
Isnβt it imesrn divinity in lab?
goat is the one that gives div xp for being in lab tubes
*earn
oh yeah it is
science bear 2.0
I've only unlocked up to nobisect lol
but I got 98 divinity pearls from one of them gods π
I have all w5 constellations but no achievement, what can I do?
reload the map maybe?
goat requires physical presence in lab to take effect, so no remote div pts grinding sadly
So anyone got the gold bar predictor/calculator
For the trade offer ?
IE has that afaik or Toolbox
Hi
ill take a look again
Did that before asking, but didn't work. Switched chars and clicked a constellation, didn't work
There are no 777 in my future. π¦
did you reopen the whole game?
becuz this bonus doesnt effect the w5 skills, does the skill exp work for them or not?
any way to just stop/end my void run early?
Pretty sure w5 is purely if it has the skill name in it, like div gains/sail xp etc.
no,why would you want to?
Because i finished my samples, and want to change my 3d prints but it removed 3d prints from the UI while void is up
my void timer is basically 10mins
maybe go to dungeon? It gets rid of effects
ah right, tyvm
going to dungeon during run tends to mess up vmanβs portals until you speed run next time
yeh i recall that, is that still an issue?
(my portals luckily look fine)
Character swap force ends speed run timer so i think thats safer
Didn't help either. Maybe it's just bugged

i need another character to burst the rift 38 mob
dk/bb doesn't have any burst at all, and my 2nd bubo has like 1/4 of the damage of theo ther 3 people that did damage 
why is kattlecruk trophy on wiki say unobtainable
wiki guys just hasnt sorted them out yet
Lot of βunobtainableβ is used as βto be updated later when i check some stuffβ
I'm sure that this has been asked before, and in all fairness I searched reddit and this chat but didn't see an answer, if you have the doot pet do your guys count as being on the divinity alter since they are technically in the lab, or do my guys have to be on the alter to get the benefits?
Goat needs physical presence in lab
No, Goat/Bear combo doesn't work
just like how it doesnt work with es arctis mean no lab gains and no lab gains=no div gains
So either lab or div presence, gotcha. Thank you
if you have doot, you need to choose a stance on the altar and you will get divinity experience both on the altar and in the lab, but not outside
and if you have doot, no reason to sit on altar
After getting all my superchows, these upgrades are looking nice xD
https://i.imgur.com/GSRScYg.png
Blessing and levels for minors?
as in sitting in lab makes sitting in altar obsolete
ah woups, yeh, im asleep xD
Time to spend these... going to be a while :/
https://i.imgur.com/3luKuor.png
same, but not today 
I need to do a lot as well, so I'm going to do nothing
any way to see plunderous mobs spawn rate?
Think base was 1/50 or 1/100, @opaque sun will probably know π
80 to 40
ahhhh gotcha, atleast its a general idea lool. thankss
vman will help a ton with plunderous though
since you get guaranteed spawns
originally it was 1% but lava buffed that and further buffed with enhancements
you can buff plunderous mob spawn rate?
Lava did
oh
Not you
π
Along with a guarantee mechanic
vman enchancement makes them spawn 2x more and if you have 100+ plunderous coins it used 25 to spawn 1
So with vman enhancements, its like effectively 1/50 ish i suppose
I feel like I've had my SB active 72 hours straight and I've only gotten 5k plunderous mobs π
not rlly guarantee when you need 1 to spawn for the guarantee to work but yea
dang I didn't know that ty
Trying for plunder kills without vman enhancement is an act of a mad man
I'm more so pushing w5 with SB for levels but I'm not stopping until 10k kills π
is this changed?
That is the one i meant with lavaβs buff
Oh so i was right with the 1/100 or 1/50 xD
Is this area safe...
slowly working on my vman... π
mines damage is so low compared but higher lvl
Work on skills
really? my maestro only has like 1.5m dmg and bandaged gloves still π
mines not even in the 100 thousands
and it has plastic glove
dang
itll go up ... eventually
I think base dmg is a big source of maestro dmg, more than dmg %
Skill lvls are a huge source for vman dmg
true, I think my lowest level is like 27 fishing π
Is it possible to get plunderous mobs with an all jman account
mines 25 catching rn
that means your bb fisher is lower than that?
ima use some black pearls rq
no it means I'm lazy
if you can somehow bug the flag onto a mman without having any sb in family, maybe
all mman account effectively locks out of rift
And killroy
What about wormhole is that a class exclusive?
yep
Where else do you think wormholes, orbs, plunder flag comes from
those things don't matter if you have 10 vmen though, don't let your dreams be memes
Ok
Idk what i did but i lost 6bil damage on my elemental sorc
10 vman with riftless/killroy less is worthy to brag in endgame
Wait rift is a class exclusive?
rift basically makes a check of sb/es/dk
Also don't forget dungeons needing other classes
nothing is an issue if you have 10 vmen
You've already won
Is vial rift essential? Like is it a huge buff?
Last question is what is a slab
Going 10 jman, you knew you signed up for those things
the stuff that counts the items you obtained
W5 collector system . Various buffs depending on unique items obtained
Like what else did you think it messes up dungeon?
i just booked a few talent,equipped a few cards and got mman to 250k damage
still only 11m xp per hour on suggma tho
Unless you meant summoning doot, which can still be done if you can get 3 other classes and you just leech it
wait you can summon doot with 4 people? ποΈπποΈ
dpmt forget star signs and grind time alch bubble
What is considered a "good" bonus construction exp on cog sheet?
grind time is shit for me but its something
Like over 2k% imo. Good place to start seeing meaningful gains
greater than 0
I think probably cuz you don't have enough damage, maybe you'll get more in w4
Yes, when someone called for doot groups, many mman used to leech of that group
Lol finally.something I'm doing "good" at
4m on purp mush π¦
you know too much about this game
Oh, I feel like if you've already gotten yourself to 4k you understand you just keep going with it lol
noone left 
purp mush pretty shit though π really low mob count
just common knowledge if youve played for awhile 
It doesn't matter what I use maestro for for printing right? Like he is equally good in everything
yea mostly
Now nobody asks for how long item/coins stay on map. People used to type in a command to answer that
that was the nicest way someone has called me a noob
Im using mine for greencaps and a couple w3 things to stock up refinery/work on bubbles since his samples during speedrun kinda dumb
does coin toss actually get stronger with more money?
yes, but not really
Well my maestro can't speedrun rn
the scaling of coin toss per money is real bad
Im dumb but didn't this site showed what rank the player is from all players? Like if he is the highest skilled one?
Oh, fair point. Still auto-translating mman/maestro as vman. Figure if you're in this chat you probably have
Just got maestro yesterday xd
i have a lvl 96 mman in w5 so no
yeah that's weird, it definitely ranked your skills before
Hmmm.. I'm sure it was yesterday. Is mobile the problem?
prob mobile ui display issue
Still working on mine
Weird
try desktop site
Yeah just booted it up on my phone, was crammed/not displaying correctly til I turned on "show desktop site" and it's showing ranking there now too
once shop restock imma remake mman armor with w5 stones
copper armor

Remaking mman with HD graphics and multi language subtitles
Trying to beat nightmare kattle with a BB is literally impossible
Unless you've ridiculous damage
kinda oof for BB considering its designed to be best single target dps
good joke 
bb should have enough aoe to keep the moles at bay
but then SB exist with homing arrows burst and suppression fire nukes
also ES with constant lightning nukes and good map clear with other skills
Honestly the boss design baffles me, its just wasn't thought through
Sooner he released boss sooner he can get back to making more gamble pets
Yay, all i want is a sigil pet! 10x speed
yeah boss design bad, death animation takes longer than the actual kill takes 
Id rather have this boss than some sophisticated efaunt level boss fight
Oh speaking of NM Kattle I finally got enough keys for my first attempt, time to go do that for a hot minute
I think bb was designed to afk in the kitchen
hope u have the dmg
cant wait for w6 endgame to complain nightmare kattlekruk one hit grind is too slow
yes
its already getting one shot
do the mole quest before doing any major nm grinding

No shot
If you get cape before doing quest 3, rip on your mentality
Insane gameplay
in fact it owes me several hp bars every hit 
I have the damage to keep him from healing, yeah. Still gonna take a looong time for him to die though
mole quest?
oh
the actual boss quest next to door
ποΈπποΈ
I can't even imagine trying to do nightmare on vman...
Its do able, as long you keep upgrading alchemy
True
What bubbles in particular? I'm only going for the very first ones at the moment
all in particular
so now do we use this or still w5 stone?
those are worse than w5 stones on average 
raising levels on easy bubbles mean no bubbles left behind hits the more tougher bubbles
hello saphir
Thus raising all bubbles that you can manage is important
And non damage bubbles contributes to skills and other bonuses outside of alchemy to buff damage and such
but plus weapon power tho, not worth cause of the chances?
if you can beat the 68% odds
Coin flip gamer
well i guess just stick to w5 stone then
If you are confident that for some reason your pc loses power on a failed stone, maybe
LOL
Or you saved 500 puppies today and your karma score is skyrocketing
Thats a good tip, I've got some I just didn't upgrade because they're crap but they're cheap to do so I'll try that
so im not quick witted, but does that mean better use w5 stone or no?
its more predictable to use store stones
At least its not like βi can give you double salary with 50% chance to get nothing, or your usual monthly salaryβ
If you use store stones you know youll be getting the max amount of stats the armor slots can provide. If you 68% chance it, you can fail all attempts and be out a good p8ece of armor. I don't really feel like grinding out sets of magma armor for the chance that all 68% succeed
20% done with nm kattle
well smart option is to boss stone magma, and if it rolls good, you keep as a skill gear. If it rolls bad, just use that magma for divine armor
Only took about 15min so I'll be done in the next hour lmao
is 1200 multikill decent
1200 for what?
Which world?
1200%? Maybe okay if just starting
oranges
I asked a clarifying question, but I honestly don't know the answer
does 1200% mk do somthing? Yes it does.
Can it be improved? Yes there is lot of room for improvement
Sounds like he wants to just know if it's decent/is matching up to W5 standards. Probably a bit behind, but shows you are definitely on the right track
Yeah it's not terrible but you will eventually be able to improve it
yea im just looking for more ways to increase it
Just worked on my cooking, that seemed like a nice upgrade π
https://i.imgur.com/7TBrAyE.png
How good is shovel when you first get it usually
very good, like super good
depends heavily on rng
But even then, right when you get it it's already great, no matter the rng, since any nugget is better than none xD
Like few ten thousand better good to like mere 2x good
my cooking speed is halved on ie for some reason
Connected to the lab jewel?
the first jewel? no
tried a bunch of em on death ring and 0 landed
Time to fix some greenstacks
hey does anyone have a pictures with the proper lab setup?
I unlinked a char from bear and cant seem to get all gems
U cant get all gems with 6 chars, will miss the dmg one at the top and cooking at the top left
unless you mean nodes
Hi guys just got king doot what is the best god to use now for best result
oh, okey! is this the meta? the cooking seems too important to lose
Doesnt matter except for having at least 1 purrmep/tiger, as he needs to be equiped for the minor (game/sail speed) to work.
So just be sure to toss tiger on someone
25% of NM kattle to go
best % to spend DNA in gaming for the last 3 mutations?
Last one u do 1%
ok βοΈ . What about the other 2
The last 3 are basically supposed to be >1% unlocks. Just spend the DNA between .5-1%
Alright thank you guys 
Hello
I saw few players attempting w5 boss with vman, is he better than others due to his aoe skill?
Just to note theres big diminishing returns, it can be more about genes than actual % especially the last 1-2. I'd do it at like 40-100 genes each time.
Vman gets the most base dr so people run bosses on vman if possible
and for nm w5 fights people talk about vman since its requirement for one of the merit task
And people have issues beating it as vman
I think its just the best dr
And cdr
SB is a good option if Vman cant kill it
As for βis he better?β, no vman sucks at the fight the most, pure mechanic wise
any other classes are fine as they can clear the moles if given enough time
also, what is currently the max lvl requirement for any equip? 450?
I can't figure out how my divinity points & exp are calculating, i just started and have 3p/h on all my characters, but when i start meditatint on my es, it increases to 6p/h on all characters, but i can't find the source where this multiplier comes from...
all capes are lvl1 if i'm not mistaken
also, will take a long time for my vman to reach 450 x_x
how much boat speed to reach last island minimum time???
Depends on your minimum reduction, but the last island is 100m distance, so you'll want 50m speed + whatever your reduction makes it.
Tab 4 talent increases divinity gain for all characters
And you also might have some multipliers from gods when you level them up
I just used a 210 book on this. Why is it only at 210 if I have a pet that increases talent and ES passive? I understand that the other classes have a talent that increase other talents but not itself, but there is no reason to not increase this one. Is it a bug (because it's in the same slot as the other ones) or it is as intended?
It uses same restriction as symbols
Vman skills mostly dont get family lvl
Vman skills are not affected
Only first 4 are
Only the top row combat ones are affected by family bonus and such
Well.. that's lame.
Ah yeh thats true
Forgot that
i figured out that for some strange reason my doot isn't working on BB, so when im trying to see divinity r/h on any other character - it shows 6p/h, but 3p/h for bb 
and i guess the reason is purrmep bonus
if we already have lvl400+ equip, what is lava planning? lvl1000 at w8?
unless he'll implement some account wide "equipment level requirement reduction" at some point
Is it possible to reroll the Total Damage line on Kattle obols?
too far to predict, w6 boss will prob require lv500-550 most likely
you think only 100 lvls?
cause w5 on it's own already has like...200 eq lvl range, no?
exp requirement is already quite steep unless w6 first mob has like base 1b exp or sth
To be fair the uber gear (scarf/trophy) are massive outliers
The stuff before that caps at 300 for the helmet and 250 for the weapons and necklace
so you think scarf / trophy will beat w6 stuff? (w6 just going to upgrade other things except scarf / trophy)
I mean
w3 from 620 to 6k
w4 mob base exp ranges from 2.3k to 33k
w5 then ranges from 40k to 1.25m
w6 might be 2m to 1b (or realistically 100m) base exp from monsters
well yeah lv600-700 might be possible given that w5 stat scaling alone are absurd
not to mention many ppl have grind time bubble at minimum of x20 exp already, plus elite class grinding and doubling active exp cards
2m to 1b seems like a massive increase lol
i mean see 40k from suggmas to 1.25m from tremor worms, w5 mob base exp scaling from mob to mob is already huge
w5 kinda went exponential on already established growth xD
Cant wait for 1t base exp
How long did C.Chizoar Scarf survive as BiS combat pendant? And Lava's explicitly said these are ULTRA!!!!!!!!!!! gears? They... probably do except we've seen how crazy the power creep's been recently
scarf is reluctantly bis for active combat
I'm drawing a huge blank, where's the thing that turns on all prayers at 1/5 effectiveness with no curse?
hopefully lava will test the big numbers so our level won't go to NaN :P
superbit bonus
what does BIS stand for exactly? heard it being used many time but not sure the meaning
Superbit
best in slot
And was dethroned from bis afk combat when deathly cluster arrived
ah ty
Oh right, it's if no prayer's equipped. Thought it was an on/off somewhere
is 1/5 even useful? maybe once you upgrade everything to max...for me it's not (yet)
Although... yeah actually Strung Tooth's best for active isn't it
wonder does the superbit perk on no prayers equipped activate giant mobs or no
yeah reluctant choice but for active strung tooth is best now
No it waint worth
I was gonna do a test and check now that I've capped both the class xp ones, see how much of a loss I take at the benefit of being able to afk my vman at wurms while I active on someone elsewhere
Scarf beat deathly cluster and persephone in a single blow
waint?
Did you mean wasn't? isn't?
Waint 
only use of 1/5 is somehow you want to make the ultimate colo2 only specialized DK
What are the options for active pendant?
chiz scarf
Stung tooth for pure damage, or crescent fomo pendant for minor exp boost
tooth last unlockable of cattlekrunk?
oh right I forgot about gemshop pendants 
Chiz scarf for the poormans option
tooth rare drop 
Tooth is the drop, which is also the material for scarf
People usually make scarf out of it, but its also decent as an active pendant
guess ill be farming keys. bye omni, hello arctis
Aint worth it
terrible
someone is doing it already somewhere here on the discord
very slow, and youre gonna miss some achievements
not like all claws would boost eachother or stack, missing out on all the other buffs from other class, meh
so i logged on the game on my phone bc i am away from my compβ¦ basically my gains were soo horrible. no doot buffs omg π³
if u dont play cross platform often, be sure to check ur cards, sets, talents etc. as that gets reset the first time
sometimes its nice getting a free talent reset
but setting your cards again is just pain
Yeh, i've done that. But now resets are too easy to get
yeah i just logged out after one of my characters experienced the lack of resources in atom collider
hopefully all my stuff still works on computer kek
But doing a full reset when planned out right can be very nice, just takes hours to set up everything xD
could change your talents mor often than underwear
greenstacking talent reset frags
good night champs
Good night!
why change talents when you could just max everything 
im only using presets for vman on curse off and on
what do you guys prefer for DK crystal w2 farming ?
Sandypots ? or is snelbies better even if its wider ?
snelbies until you have the cards maxed out then sandypots imo
still no obol / neck with 15 DR π¦
130 cards to go for snelbie 
Meanwhile i got 5 obols and a cape π
damn bruh which difficulty u farm?
I farmed like 5 nightmares and i got the cape so after that i started chaotic
Got really lucky with the cape
unfortunately my vman not strong enough for nightmare yet
i think normal is technically better right? just more painful and time...
in terms of keys yes
I think it might be worth go nightmares with non vman for the cape, you beed 1 for the quests
Yea but who will go 1k runs? Haha
Not a lot of people 1 shot nightmare
at most i get nightmare to about this hp before it starts healing too much on my vman
Vman just make you run around and kill the monsters only and attak the boss after each time you use the map skill
Why did my carry cap drop from 12k to 9k?
is "free respec-ing" with crossplatform explitable bug?
maybe prayer
Don't have any prayers that change size
constellation maybe ?
Don't think I have any that do that either
v-man ( maestro ) ?
hmm star talent maybe
Star talents the same
So what class what zone is best for key farming w5 i was thinking dk on wurms but wasnt sure if bubo or es would be better
wurms for sure and probably DK
Since its a rare drop dk is best
alright cool just wanted to double check
shrine?
multi kill dont effect rares right ? so just enough dmg to one shot is enough?
I have moai head
Yes to both
def some better gains since yesterday
oooo nice
actually took the time to fully spec, food, cards etc lol
always nice doubling your sampling
Especially if youre sampling greenstacks
you can get double atoms from multiple stacks yes?
does this work while afk ?
dont think so
What do you mean with double stacks?
like if i had 2 copper stacks, one stack is at 1050m already producing atmos
atoms*
why would you have/need 2 stacks of copper in storage though?
if i were to make a 2nd stack it would in theory make more right?
No, since youre still producing smae much copper
got it, dont mind me. issa whiskey night lol
What's a good class to get the lava skull mobs on?
people do make multiple stacks of copper for the power of 10 talent
es, sb
good point
Wait, wut?
Thank you
would it fill up the 2nd stack before converting to atoms tho?
10 stacks of 1000m copper counts as 10000m copper for the war talent
And atom upgrades works on top of that
Oh.... Nah, not worth it
Damn but 9 wasted storage space π
but still count 1 for green stack
since its a log, doesnt have to be exact 10000m
You can have 2 stacks of 1000m copper and it will boost the talent a bit
i think this is good enough? for now, i have tons of keychains from dungeon too so i have plenty of space(if i get rid of them)
Its not a bad way to min max the mining sampling
wish this game have mod, like mod for l4d2 
you dont have to keep the chests iirc you can drop them
why do you keep t1 food bag ?
ok so you cant just dump items in and fill a 2nd stack
i don't know....
you have to move them manually yes
no
wait theres 3 more coins after green

and why the jewels
or the 20 fishing rods
or 3 mana stamps
name fits lol π
also storage chest can be thrown out
yeah to make multi stack you need to split a stack (like say 100k) and move that stack to top left in chest, then wait for it to fill
fishing rod for crafting, other just there
but yeah. multiple stacks can work with deposit all. you just have to have the lower stack in the first slot
The fishing rods are for troll eq crafting
i think i f*ck up really bad...this is what i missing
youre right
didnt think if that
You want to avoid splitting coppers in 1 as salt refinery will eat it away before it gets filled
I also deleted mineβ¦ till i remembered i need 20 more π π
lets goooo
mana stamp is for w1 quest, you can only get 1 per day and you need 5
thats alot of damage
i see Doot
bruh

reddit hates me for it lmao
do these can drop from dungeon? i only see them in gem shop :<
its Idle Skilling collaboration fomo limited time shop item
dungeon loot dice...
So probably never will be a dungeon drop, and very slim chance it returns

one bill club π₯²
wish i have this ||π³ ||
those snips are ass my apologies lol
70 more and can farm Kattle 
almost 10B club...i can if equip 1 dmg card, but i want it naturally
ill get there eventually lol
get artifact, it really help
i unlocked eldritch yesterday and got the first island completed lol
working on the rest now
ffs when you arnt in the mood to do gaming, and have 9 chems, and with 15 water you spawn another 3 chems 
https://i.imgur.com/1P6tL7j.png
i went from 2.7B dmg and after get steak, it go to 4.8, got acient and i get 9.8....
try to get more, not get better, you can farm eldrich later, get more artifact
idk some eldritch are core to get right away like tusk
i think i have almost all of them gold, maybe just the last island im missing
reason i can get to 10B club
But for sure after getting tusk and fury then whatever,
Make sure you work your way BACK, have your 2-3h boats always hittting the highest boat. Don't have all boats hitting low islands.
low ones come pretty swift
ewww, not even acient fury...
i know for shame
yeh should def focus on fury
Even in gem shop, I bought the 3 available and got twice the yellow one so one is still missing
im confused, was there some timezone change or something?
I did restart the game and not out of sync but off by over 1.5h+ suddenly
oh, i thing you guy might hate me for this but i got acient and eldrich fury at the same time xD
I got 40 hours rollback ...
wait what?
Out of synchro, need to relog and my progress was lost
time to login on phone
Is there any way to get red headband for the slab, without creating a new character?
drop it
Worst idea ever. Playing on multiple platform is out of synchro frenzy
wait, it can drop now? Where?
u can drop rest of the hats so this probably also i guess
i think there is mob drop it? i know lava put some begin hat in mob drop
ah its from scripticus XD sorry
Ye, some of the starting hats, but this one is from quest :/
No problem, mr. Pudzianowski
You sure you don't have it on slab? Lava made all quest items retroactively appear on slab (like Mr. Peanut) if you've done the quest I think
Ye, but this one is missing for me
you can get construct helmet pretty easy
Hm yeah that seems unfortunate ^^'
but i forgot how to get it
Nawh, u just need to cloud save and have inet, never have any issues, also just checked and 0 desync
so im confused why i have no desync but my daily reset is off by 1.5h+
"give me hat" at W1 portal i think
you only miss 1...
top right corner w1 main city, under the tree
Might also be missing pre-crime loot box if you finished goldrick quest on everyone
Got a lot of desync from the time I used to play ok mobile and computer.
Another people I know got a 2h daily reset desync today
i only have 3 world trophy(2 w1 and 1 w2) so i might get it
You need to level up with level up gift in the middle of the goldrick quest (right before he asks you for a golden plop i think)
i'm sorry but what is the item you talk about? i really forgot/don't know what it is
wait what, can you show or check please if i still need that?
https://i.imgur.com/jyGrSMm.png
oh
You need it ^^
is it a guarantee from level up when on the right quest step or still rng?
go greenstack it 
These could have been gems 
gotta hoard those gems:
https://i.imgur.com/61SYvUH.png
I want to do all quests on everybody, but i'm scared to lose access to item sources I might regret later. Like the goldrick quest, I can't get the 3 paintings anymore (easy greenstacks)
best cards to rubyify?
Please Lava give is quest reset
after NM/CHA bosses?
Event probably
Especially DR event cards
Basically, whatever is impossible/way to hard to farm
was considering the boost food card
oh, you just give me +3 green stack xD
Is it that easy to greenstack things that you can't get by the multikills?
might green stack these too...some day
These cards are 1 in 10/13/20, so shouldn't be too hard i'd say with ES
Just keep the quest active on all chars and stuff greenstacks over time for free.
https://i.imgur.com/qnoygnc.png
hmm
The cards are low since i dont w2 ever really π€·
time thingy's are possible too
But probably once/if i go for 5* cards
lots of garbage...
i sadly handed in my quest for those, https://i.imgur.com/JekJ0Sw.png
can you reroll +1 skilling power on obols
lots of stuff to toss
At platinum+ yes
keep the MCR shirt unless you're past your emo era, they'll be touring again soon
soo weird to see how the w5 chat have changed lol
w6 chat soon
oh, there's much more than that
hope its just w6, not w5-6 xD
w6 will be some time
will w5 get nerfed when w6 comes out?
to portals, probably?
