lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[opaque sun]

No chocochip and being 1 in 90 as i said is major loss of crystals

[cosmic tendon]

Thank u that’s what I was feeling and wanted some confirmation

I’ve never heard that before

[barren otter]

tbf you don't need ruby cards

[zealous niche]

Depends on how long you want to wait

[opaque sun]

you are basically getting like 1/4 to 1/5 of crystals than what you should be getting

[barren otter]

for dk crystal farming to pop off

mostly just need chip

and decently lvld crystal spawn cards

[zealous niche]

Chocochip is revolutionary for crystal farming

[barren otter]

also stamp

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah I understand that

[obtuse night]

don't mind waiting but as it is now the moles just out heal me

[cosmic tendon]

I appreciate the reference point and will sideline the dk active until I get choco

[barren otter]

idk what map you're going to but that also matters too

[opaque sun]

you immidiately notice coming back from a DK farm if you forgot to wear choco

[weak echo]

i might just lost my monthly luck on it

[opaque sun]

while on ES, having a non choco is less visible

[zealous niche]

Can you kill the moles?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah using good maps but I don’t think I can break 1 in 50 without month(s) of profession or card doublers and ruby

[regal cloak]

hey guys, does using a hat premiumifier erase the hats original attributes/bonuses?

[serene forum]

Anyone can help me with 1 star game sucks!?

[opaque sun]

1 in 50 is doable with platinum and few investment in crystallin

[zealous niche]

Lost it on what? you still need to get the royal ashes and the recipe

[obtuse night]

can take out one side but can't touch the other

[cosmic tendon]

They’re okay and crystalline is at 70

Platinum

And dk is at 87

[zealous niche]

No, platnium crystal chance cards

[weak echo]

i picked recipe from the floor second before this screen

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah they’re platinum

And crystalline is lvl 70

[prisma drift]

PO Box?

[cosmic tendon]

231 but I think maxing it will get me to 1 in 80

Which I’m working on as I get pens

[barren otter]

that's what my crystal spawn was at when I started dk crystal farming

[opaque sun]

Crescent shrine? That is one of the big source of crystals

[cosmic tendon]

But I started just as wanting to know if crystal odds need to be at a certain place for dk to be better than es for statue, pen, and obol

Because my es is far superior rn

Crescent is 10 but it’s in w4 town with goat lab so not much more I can do there

[opaque sun]

Basically your current general farming is consisting too much normal mobs

ES loves normal mobs, and less affected by the lack of crystals

[cosmic tendon]

U don’t think it’s because it kills 5x the mobs and gets 5x the crystals?

[opaque sun]

May also have to do with orb not having a long enough duration as i said earlier

[cosmic tendon]

It’s at 152 I don’t have fury yet

[opaque sun]

orb duration directly connects to how high your peak dr bonus can reach

[cosmic tendon]

Seems to go down under 200 and have 40s down time still

[barren otter]

too much downtime at 152 tbh

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah 200 is an essential breakpoint right

[opaque sun]

so that too is hurting

[barren otter]

what maps did you compare the 2 on?

[opaque sun]

the duration of orb is low, and you are getting too few crystals in general

[cosmic tendon]

Snelbie and sandpots but I’ve never been impressed with how my dk performed anywhere

[opaque sun]

and yeah DK depends on map design too

Another thong to check is your base dr

[barren otter]

sandpots with low dk talent lvls is kinda shit imo

[cosmic tendon]

Base dr is equal on both at 5

Working on it

[opaque sun]

At low dr, ES tends to perform better

[cosmic tendon]

Thank u

I figured I must be missing something because I don’t feel like my progression is that bad at this point

[barren otter]

might just have to wait to book orb higher and then go ham farming dice obols at snelbies

[opaque sun]

While dk orb is multiplicative (gimmie gimmie mechanic), it may seem underwhelming until you reach near 10 dr

[cosmic tendon]

That my other aren’t even operable while I feel like my es has farmed almost every map I could want already

[opaque sun]

Its basically like you have 3 things going against your dk, base dr, crystals, and orb duration

[cosmic tendon]

I think my es can farm like 10-15 dice obols per day I think

It’s the drag that is holding me up

So focusing chocolate chip gamble and sideline dk

[opaque sun]

When you manage to patch those 3 holes, your dk should perform better exponentially along with es also doing even better than now

[barren otter]

next choco chip is in Aug iirc

[cosmic tendon]

I feel like my dk is going to become active ready barely before my bubo

It’s in December

[barren otter]

oh no... lol

damn

[cosmic tendon]

So it’s a gamble kind of thing

[barren otter]

well plenty of time to flesh out all your pop obols

[cosmic tendon]

Every roll makes or breaks my game

[barren otter]

and work on dice as well

[cosmic tendon]

Pop almost done

Dice I just need a lot of frag

[barren otter]

and also use your es to plat all dr cards

[agile pagoda]

Am I missing something? Anything I could improve?

[cosmic tendon]

Thank u both for the info

[zealous niche]

Dice is easiest from crystal farming

[cosmic tendon]

I have all plat dr

[barren otter]

yea dice is super fast

[zealous niche]

Royal sampler prayer

[cosmic tendon]

I know that’s why I’m trying to get my dk operable

[tawdry steeple]

you have fishing food?

[errant gyro]

Hey guys just got to w5 whats the main focus here?

[agile pagoda]

Not on my Vman

[agile pagoda]

Well... the pink fish one yeah

[zealous niche]

Read the first pin

[azure spindle]

taking a nice break and putting everyone divinity for a bit

[zealous niche]

The mob sample losses from that are huge

[errant gyro]

Like literally all 10 chars

[azure spindle]

yeah

[errant gyro]

Sweet should i be pushing at all or

[azure spindle]

probably not for the time being, divinity is like lab so everyone is gonna be locked in there for a bit

[silver comet]

park them there until they all reach lvl 80 or 40

[tawdry steeple]

mana snapping is still a thing for printing right?

[zealous niche]

Div altar until you get second deity

[azure spindle]

yeah don't go until 80, you'll be there until next year if you try that

[tawdry steeple]

just get bear then split up

[azure spindle]

at least if you try for it off the bat

[zealous niche]

Need the bonuses from other w5 progression to get high div levels

[barren otter]

park in div till w6 release ez

[agile pagoda]

Ok then despite the prayer what could I use to get more fishing exp?

Its so slow compared to the other ones...

[azure spindle]

unfortunately that's just how fishing is, it's the middle child of skilling

[barren otter]

can try to put on balance of proficiency @agile pagoda

probably minor gain at best tho

[tawdry steeple]

event food orb helps a lot

[green eagle]

finally

on to this next

[cobalt nimbus]

How the game telling me to quit without actually telling me to quit

[agile pagoda]

So... I'm currently on the right path?

[slate cloud]

Anyone compare the weapons and armor yet?

[empty ridge]

Give me several months and I’ll let you know

[agile pagoda]

Gotta love the useless dupes

[sick sentinel]

Weapons good, armour so so/good for a little drop rate if applicable

[empty ridge]

So the armor would be better suited for like vman?

[sick sentinel]

Dk and es like the drop rate too. Its only on helm and boots i believe

[frigid acorn]

its good for everyone but bubo

[sick sentinel]

Bubo as well i guess

If it takes you to a money multi it would be but otherwise ye meh

Scarf is nutts tho, dont have it yet but can see on wiki

[agile pagoda]

How can I increase the green mush lab buff efficiently?

[frigid acorn]

gonna wait for the unique pendant drop 😂

[sick sentinel]

Yeaaa that will be a yikes

[zealous niche]

Use archers since you’ll also get good forge progress

[heady scaffold]

surely ill get the pendant drop when i do the last task in an hour ot two

[sick sentinel]

For the last npc step do you need it to drop on the specific char with the quest active? Havent rly looked into that step yet

[heady scaffold]

idk

[frigid acorn]

for the thophy ?

[agile pagoda]

I... guess I can

[sick sentinel]

Ye, guess its too early for anyone to know rly

[heady scaffold]

quest in quest log says equip scarf and get cape, idk if the actual dialoge specifies, didnt bother reading

[frigid acorn]

its all the fking unique drop guess for not even have to went inside killing it

btw you still have to done the achrivement (task)

to make the craft isnt ?

[heady scaffold]

yeah you have to do the tasks to make the scarf

[sick sentinel]

Mm seems like i just didnt read the requirements, just glazed over the npc dialog

[tawdry epoch]

At 61k wis how much dmg does your es have 😂

[sick sentinel]

High trillions?

[tawdry epoch]

Definetly haha was the 100T pass by somes ?

[heady scaffold]

last i checked my bubo was at 120t meme dmg

[tawdry epoch]

💀💀 damn haha niceeee

[sick sentinel]

Have you tried sampling lately?

[heady scaffold]

not touching sampling till w6 atleast

[sick sentinel]

True

[tawdry epoch]

Well at least kattle will give a huge buff to sampling

[heady scaffold]

the armor is just worse

[tawdry epoch]

Yea but the obols and the divine scarf are juice

[shrewd nexus]

dr gear is nice at least

[tawdry epoch]

50% afk gain that you can double and 5 % per star obol

[sick sentinel]

Situationally yes for dr

[shrewd nexus]

4% stat > 8% dmg? im assuming yes

[heady scaffold]

yeah

[tawdry epoch]

Yes

[heady scaffold]

dmg% on gear might as well not exist with how little it does

[opaque sun]

total damage stat on gears sucks in general

[tawdry epoch]

And stats boost everything of the game but dmg only boost dmg

[frosty silo]

how do you get to 6 mil biggole kills? its only counts as 1 per kill...

will take ages

[tawdry epoch]

Afk

[sick sentinel]

Afk multikill works

[opaque sun]

lava wasting so many gears by wasting misc on a total damage

[frigid acorn]

afk

[frosty silo]

ok thx

[shrewd nexus]

wait so active its 1 kill, afk its mk?

[tawdry epoch]

Wasted a whole night active there 💀

[opaque sun]

like didnt you do the suggma quest

[sick sentinel]

For any quest kill reqs ye

[opaque sun]

system limitation of lava cant figure out to count active mk for quests

[shrewd nexus]

its kinda lame that the w6 game is basically just asteroids slowed down

[thin rose]

?

[shrewd nexus]

would just have been cooler if it was a bit more origonal i mean

[sick sentinel]

What w6 game?

[shrewd nexus]

the cult stuff is good at least

didnt you guys hand in the boss drop?

[tawdry epoch]

😂

[sick sentinel]

I've been had

[bright pier]

"Establishing order among molekind" Why does multikill not count for this quest? (fighting actively)

[sick sentinel]

We talked about that a little bit above like 10 messages up

Quest kills dont count any extra kills while active, but they do while afk

[bright pier]

ok cool

was just wondering

[sick sentinel]

Ye its weird, we just assume its not a problem lava got around to looking into

Or doesnt know how to

[frigid acorn]

do nm kattle do have chance outdamage my vman make him unkillable or the healing scale going lower by time

[opaque sun]

i needed like 300T max damage to outdamage nm kattle with vman

[warped dove]

What're the best things to put on the 3d printer?

[opaque sun]

There isnt really a way to stop the moles (healing) on vman

[shrewd nexus]

cool, i only need 299.1T more then

[opaque sun]

particle stuff and hourly alchemy stuff later on. Early on just print whatever alchemy you want to upgrade

[pure spindle]

Just checking, companions disappearing from your account is a normal bug on ios rn?

[opaque sun]

I wouldnt call it “normal” but yeah its a known issue on ios

[pure spindle]

Unfortunate

Would appreciate my all bubbles back

[shrewd nexus]

probably metals woods flies and fish,as you can print a ton of them for alchemy bubbles, vials and recipes

[pure spindle]

And salts as well

Not print em but print for em

[round elk]

why are some of the new armors actually worse than the old ones?

[shrewd nexus]

because 8>4 and lava didnt playtest?

[opaque sun]

since lava still thinks total damage is one of the best misc stats when it isnt

[bright pier]

what is the best then

[opaque sun]

If those misc 2 total damage were magma’s all stats, the armors would have been a pure upgrade

[shrewd nexus]

the lava stuff, unless youneed dr

[opaque sun]

like all stat is in every way better than total damage

[round elk]

he needs to change it lol

[opaque sun]

All stat gives better scaling damage and also other utilities. While total damage on gears are friggin additive and it only raises damage

[shrewd nexus]

total dmg gets worse with time as you unlock more sources of it, total stat% gets better with time as you get better base stat, so it will only get worse

[bright pier]

What does the boss even do?

[opaque sun]

nothing

[shrewd nexus]

heal

[opaque sun]

Boss is just an oversized amarok healing totem

[untold timber]

How the fuck do I increase my vman's damage, I'm only at 10b

[round elk]

you don´t

[untold timber]

Can't even hurt the nm boss

[opaque sun]

need around 200-300B on vman to outdamage nm kattle

[shrewd nexus]

the fuck

[untold timber]

how in the fuck

[opaque sun]

Sorry b

[untold timber]

Ok that's do-able

[shrewd nexus]

lol

[round elk]

increase his luck to 15k and is easy

[untold timber]

Time to work on my alch some more I guess

[opaque sun]

muster up card damage, starsigns, gather up some bullets, make kattle weapon, etc

[untold timber]

oh yeah weapon

[round elk]

imagine actually having the recipe for the previous weapon

[shrewd nexus]

my vman just uses a spear, becuase fuck him

[opaque sun]

Also book the triple double punch helps too

[untold timber]

Not that hard with ES tbh

[round elk]

I will eclipse skull that shit and I still don´t have that recipe

[opaque sun]

Void radius helps to keep off the moles for few moment

[shrewd nexus]

is your dr balls?

[round elk]

10

[shrewd nexus]

decent

[opaque sun]

Mk doesnt count for rare drops so how much dn you have isnt really a gauge of how unlucky

[untold timber]

why does MK matter at all

are you actually going to afk that amount?

just ES

[round elk]

I have been sitting in that place for 2 months without any result

I know is just bad luck it will happen someday

[shrewd nexus]

couple hours on active ES, ive run the mathprobably

[round elk]

I got eldrithc fury with my first try at 0,01% can´t get lucky everywhere

[frigid acorn]

goddamn finally

[untold timber]

stats?

[round elk]

nice stats

[untold timber]

huh.

[frigid acorn]

i wish i can literally steal dk statue skill

[shrewd nexus]

so 53b is enough? previous heard it was 200b

[frigid acorn]

just kill moles

[round elk]

it sounds that it took forever

[frigid acorn]

200-300b just afk damage

[shrewd nexus]

i mean probably took less time tht gaining 150b extra dmg

[untold timber]

you clicked on each mole?

Jesus

Fuck it time to try that

[round elk]

Imagine doing that like 100 times till you get the cape

[frigid acorn]

this thing does remind me about the 1st c.amarok

[untold timber]

I kill it in 10 seconds on my ES but my vman has only 13b max lol

[shrewd nexus]

see you in 3 hours

[untold timber]

yup here we go

[round elk]

my bubo just goes in and instamelts him

[opaque sun]

non vman shouldnt have any issues with kattle dps

Well maybe bb, but he got enough aoe to keep the moles off

[frigid acorn]

but BB is still suck doing this imo

[untold timber]

how the fuck did you kill the moles

They spawn way too fast??

[wet hatch]

If I have doot, does it matter what god I'm linked to?

[shrewd nexus]

yes, it will affect the pic on the start screen above their head, so pick one you like the look of

[frigid acorn]

skill issue 💀 jk
coin flick , and whip does have little aoe on them
went into group of them and throw coins

[wet hatch]

Lol ok

[untold timber]

ok I don't think I can keep that up LOL

[shrewd nexus]

some endgamers gonna do it in a speedrun

[untold timber]

at least one goes through like every 10 seconds

[wet hatch]

Why your vw so good? Mine only does like 17m...

[untold timber]

I'll just work on my damage

like 15x more.. god damn it

[modest warren]

are eldritch artifacts alot rarer than ancient or should i expect a not too horrible time getting them

[shrewd nexus]

expect a horrible time

[frigid acorn]

all i can have is better meals ,bullets ,skill levels ,and a little luk for damage

[shrewd nexus]

something like 1/3 worse odds each tier

[modest warren]

i dont even have all the normal artifacts so im expecting the worst time

[opaque sun]

depends how you see it. You can see it as 3x worse, or its just a tiny 0.01% difference

[modest warren]

should i rush any specific ones?

[opaque sun]

fury kind of big impact

[modest warren]

well ofc

[opaque sun]

Others are just when ever it comes

[shrewd nexus]

fury (+25 level) and steak (+dmg%) are consisdered good, but a lot of good ones tbh

[opaque sun]

Cook lvl max also now kind of more important

[modest warren]

alright ill go for fury asap then

lets hope it doesnt take me years

[shrewd nexus]

is noramlly best to work up your boats on shorts 2 hour runs instead of pushing deep

[frigid acorn]

gonna done all chars nm kattle if i didnt turn off my monitor and when sleep 💀

[modest warren]

i dont think ive ever sent a boat here after i got the normal of these lol

[opaque sun]

the max meal level artifact used to be considered the worst, but with marrow talent its one of the big all round buffs

[modest warren]

yeah im at max level for all meals including cabbage with the non ancient so i should prob get on it

up to cabbage

idk why i said including

[shrewd nexus]

just bragging on your cabbage like that

[modest warren]

my bad

cabbage op

[tired geyser]

hey, which gods are the best to farm some boss keys?

[vapid wraith]

Can someone post the optimal lab setup?

[tacit tulip]

w3/4 chat pins 🙂

[opaque sun]

snake for afk farming, whatever god for active farming to get keys

best is obviously to get doot

[jagged relic]

I hate these new keys, they take FOREVER to farm

[gray pagoda]

What's their drop chance?

[zealous niche]

1 in .. 75k for moles, 50k for little work 25k for big worm

[gray pagoda]

I'm unfortunately only at citringes, but I also neglected pushing through W5 like I did with the other worlds. Wanted to make some ACTUAL progress before doing it.

[gray pagoda]

Dang, that sounds rough

[zealous niche]

Last three maps in the world

[jagged relic]

And there's a quest where you need to kill 6m moles so for now 1 in 75k

[gray pagoda]

How much health does normal Kruk have? I saw 100B earlier, but the wiki says 1B. I kinda believe the guy who said 100B more lol.

[gray pagoda]

Yeah ik. Gonna take me some time to get there

[jagged relic]

100b

[gray pagoda]

Dang

[jagged relic]

He does 0 damage

Has tons of health and heals all the time

If you can't kill him fast

Such a creative boss🙃

There are even particle effects for when he heals? But they have no sprites and are just orange squares...

[gray pagoda]

That's how all the healing particles are

Just squares

[jagged relic]

Oh? Well these are bigger so it looks really ugly

[gray pagoda]

How exactly does he heal? Just a timer?

[jagged relic]

No, moles come out of doors and walk towards him, when they get to him he heals

[gray pagoda]

I haven't seen any good footage of an actual fight lol

Oh

[jagged relic]

Meh it's so boring, he doesn't do anything at all

[gray pagoda]

That's... Gonna suck. The one thing I did see is how many moles there were.

[jagged relic]

Literally just stands there

[gray pagoda]

*Floats

Above skulls

[jagged relic]

Oh yeah whatever same thing

[gray pagoda]

I will admit though, I've been wanting boss weapons for a while, so this update has me pretty stoked about the new weapons, even if it'll take me years to get them (yes I mean years, I suck ok).

What order do you unlock things in? Is it the typical order for the armor (boots first, helmet last) and then weapons? Cause that's only 8, and I saw there were 9 merit things to buy.

[bright current]

get doot, u can do anything

[gray pagoda]

Ooh, true. As a f2p player, I think that pity system sure will help 🤡

[bright current]

ez bro, just wait almost 4 years

[gray pagoda]

It'll only take 200 weeks AFTER reaching the level 5 treat

[bright current]

[gray pagoda]

So far we're in week 3/10 for treat 1, so I'm close

[broken oar]

Hey can you guys help me increase my damage?

[solid schooner]

how does sheepie pet work?

[bright current]

do i need to get the alchemy wojack meme out again

[gray pagoda]

Yes

[broken oar]

But i cant get high upgrade numbers in alchemy

[bright current]

Tough to say

i think that it might mean that all of the big buggles in alchemy are counted as equipped

[solid schooner]

no need to equip anything because of that?

[gray pagoda]

Easy fix. Get high numbers (don't take anything I say on how to do things seriously, I've been playing for a long time and I'm still struggling lol)

[bright current]

i dont know how else to explain how the sheep works my man...

[bleak gazelle]

You mean, *all * the big bubbles from alchemy are *always * equipped on *all * my characters? No way

[bright current]

alchemy bubbles that gives skills help get bigger samples, which let u print more, to get bigger bubbles

[gray pagoda]

Kinda sucks that we don't get new elites until W7

[bright current]

which leads to more damage

[gray pagoda]

I think he's going to get rid of esoteric classes 😦

[bright current]

what classes?

[sick sentinel]

He did what to my class

[gray pagoda]

The step after elite

[bright current]

oh

[broken oar]

There is some guide for what increase liquid regen

[bright current]

i wouldnt be surprised if they become a mix and match

[gray pagoda]

And I'm pretty sure that the next mage elite was arcane 😦

[frigid acorn]

good thing no specific class specialist at w6 bad thing no specific class specialist at w6

[gray pagoda]

Which, if you couldn't tell, I'm quite ready for

[bright current]

like you can have a BB be either of the 2 clases after, or a DK be either of them

so its not DK > royal guard or w/e its called, u could do BB Royal guard

[gray pagoda]

Each elite will go to 1 esoteric

[bright current]

never know

he might throw some variety in

[gray pagoda]

I'm just going off datamined info, so nothing to take too seriously

[bright current]

idleon insight might help

[broken oar]

Idleon insight?

[frigid acorn]

most gain you can get was sigil imo

[bright current]

cant even rly trust that, Voidwalker was called Virtuoso before he dropped in all the data mining

[bright current]

https://idleoninsight.com

Search a word or 2, and it finds any bonus with that exact phrase

[gray pagoda]

Yeah I know. It doesn't go in depth about the any esoterics except Ilyte, and it just gives us the name

[bright current]

some things have multiple wordings tho. like drop rate, drop chance, drop rarity etc

[gray pagoda]

All it says is there will be 38 classes, and with some quick math, we can see that each elite gets one esoteric

But, like you said, it's not 100% reliable

[bright current]

i wouldnt mind if he let us pick and choose final class, and have it only be restricted by main class not sub class

would give some good variety

[gray pagoda]

I don't really see the point in doing that when we have multiple characters though. Chances are, we'll get more characters as more classes come out.

Cause if not, everyone in this chat who already got all their characters elite are screwed

[bright current]

fair lol

some people alreaedy are

[gray pagoda]

I kept two characters as subclasses, mainly use them for lab/divinity

[bright current]

there was one guy who had like 5 warriors or some shit lol

[gray pagoda]

I was EXPECTING that we'd get more elites in W6, but Lava broke the pattern for whatever reason

He's been breaking a lot of patterns lately though, it's getting harder to predict things

[bright current]

yea

like

[modest warren]

i think skipping w6 elites are fine

[bright current]

whats the drop rate on his next gatcha?

will it have a new currency?

who knows

[modest warren]

we can hope that if he adds another new currency people wont buy it

maybe itwill teach him

[bright current]

they will, unfortunately

[modern plaza]

what i will def buy it

if it gets me Op stuff and hit my dopamine hard

[bright current]

anyway, check this shit out

thank you all for checking that shit out

now check this shit out

[solid schooner]

is the green gem package worth it?

[opaque sun]

old roman numeral bubbles which i liked better for easier communication

[bright current]

fuck u right. i shud update it

[muted sandal]

RNG through the roof

[opaque sun]

the green gem cape isnt much, but for the dollar:gem ratio its not bad

[fathom lagoon]

Welcome

[bright current]

actual question, for the final set of rifts, how many 5m afk kill portals are there?

no i wont check the pins

please help me

[muted sandal]

I'm so happy to be here with minimal expense

[frigid acorn]

soon w5 chat become dooter only

[muted sandal]

literally my first pack of gems, and I didn't even spend most of em lmao

[bright current]

anti doot gang rise up

[sick sentinel]

I feel attacked

[gray pagoda]

Do you mind if I ask why? Not trying to be rude, just wanna know your though process for it.

[tawdry steeple]

5 then a 6th one that isn't necessary right now

[bright current]

aint no fuckin way its afk's all the way down

[tawdry steeple]

that's for rift 30, 35, 39, 40, 45, 49

[bright current]

no i meant like rifts 45-49, not the whole set

[modest warren]

well personally i dont think they are needed

we get them in 7 and 8

it just works for the family gui so it doesnt need to be changed

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, but W8 was supposed to be for esoterics

[gray pagoda]

Oh, that makes sense

[gray pagoda]

He may be trying to figure out a new gui for it though

[modest warren]

the next vman subclass will be on the bottom right

[gray pagoda]

I hope he does the family page sort of like a book, where you can look at one class at a time, and only if you've unlocked it

[zealous niche]

Top row for w6/7, vman for 8?

[tawdry steeple]

idleontoolbox will show you all the rift requirements

[gray pagoda]

Ngl, the only thing that you can even tell goes from one to the other with those sprites is the BB line

And Jman ain't even a line

[modest warren]

yeah jman is all over the place

i think the dk line is nice

it is just a knight thats all it needs to be

[gray pagoda]

That's why I think making it a book would be best. On each page you could show the lineage of the class, give information on it, and it's perks

[maiden blade]

any reason to use the bear god when you get the goat?

[modest warren]

to not be in the lab

[quartz urchin]

bear lets you do other things while counting as being in lab

goat only lets you do div and lab at the same time

[maiden blade]

ah yes, i had all my characters with bear god actually do divinity xD

[modest warren]

picks bear and sits in divinity because i want the +15 talents

[maiden blade]

so i forgot they could do other things

[gray pagoda]

What order do you unlock things in for the W5 merit with the armor? Is it the typical order for the armor (boots first, helmet last) and then weapons? Cause that's only 8, and I saw there were 9 merit things to buy.

[paper sail]

4 armor, 4 weapons, and a neck

[gray pagoda]

Is that the "super pendant"?

[gray pagoda]

Oh, the wiki was updated? I checked earlier and it hadn't been done yet. I'll go check it out, thanks!

[solid schooner]

yes i got my sheepie woohoo

[zealous niche]

Oh.. I’m going to have to stop binning lucky lads

[lavish cloak]

Do we know the pendant stats yet?

[paper sail]

Same lol. I was filtering lucky lads and the chiz scarves

[paper sail]

Wiki does

[lavish cloak]

When i asked for an upgrade to neck slot i didnt think i asked for half a god's worth

[tiny dome]

Is there something special you have to do to start a speedrun? My v-man is in the first town and I'm activating the skill but nothing is happening.

[lavish cloak]

I assume thats the super neck. Whats the other one?

[lavish cloak]

Its on a small cooldown. Try relogging.

[opaque sun]

maybe you pressing the void radius instead of the sped run talent

[covert sphinx]

is the kattlekruk scarf not on the wiki?

[opaque sun]

may need to go directly to the page

Might not be listed in some of the list page

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Divine_Scarf

[covert sphinx]

o ok

thank doot

[cursive forge]

anyone know the most efficent trap for critters collecting once a day with auto traps?

[opaque sun]

40hrs royal if planning full auto

10hrs royal if you plan to do some manual claim few times

[cursive forge]

ok cool thanks i made egalitarian traps for everyone today only to find out theres no new traps :/

[opaque sun]

yea not much reason to make w5 trap on everyone

W4 royal is enough to give max trap slots

[cursive forge]

rip nulo should have made the worship skulls

[leaden karma]

i was so close to doot

just wanted sheepie but gave me rift slug

[lavish cloak]

Already got him? He's massively good

[modest warren]

idk if i should ask here but can anyone help me figure out why i cant get past wave 110 in the first TD

i just always fall behind in damage despite being way over prepared

[solid schooner]

i got 3 sheepies at a ton of bloques T_T

[lavish cloak]

That seems like a mid td career question. Should be fine here. What are your tower levels? Are you using boulder or poisonic elder for damage?

[haughty cove]

any one name in game start with p?

[modest warren]

ill admit im very far behind in my waves but like im using a level 34 poisonic elder with the tower placements from the !guide

plus i have a 10% damage bonus from the carbon atom

i feel like i should be able to get past 110

[lavish cloak]

Okay. I was told that my level 35 poisonic with 14% damage bonus from carbon was enough to get to 121. Whats your setup. Do you have a screenshot of you after round 70-ish?

Oh, and are you using beastmaster for skills to knock back or trap?

[modest warren]

i wasnt using beastmaster i guess if i have to i could attempt with that

[lavish cloak]

It really really helps with the waves with tons of mobs where 3 krakens cant hold it back

[zealous niche]

Hate how all the mobs we don’t want come and take a nibble of the treat before door.

No wonder doot doesn’t show up

[modest warren]

yeah that makes sense but i still feel like its my damage because waves just end up piling up a ton but maybe with BM itll work

ill try it out

[lavish cloak]

Remember to kick on cooldown and have a frozone tower.

Do you use party towers?

[modest warren]

yeah i was using a guide

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[modest warren]

the one here

[fringe matrix]

What’s the general consensus on the new armor? Is it worth the loss in stat %?

[tawdry steeple]

body and legs are good for afk fighting and boot/helm good for active

[finite charm]

The No Kraken 😦 achievement, anyone have a guide?

[tawdry steeple]

so crap for skilling

[covert sphinx]

if i have 10x drop rate i have to beat kattlekruk 1 10000 times to get the amulet?

[prisma beacon]

does someone has a gold nugget calc}

?

[bright current]

i havent sampled in a while...

[finite charm]

http://iereviewbot-notsuchabigmac.pythonanywhere.com/nuggetCalc/

[bright current]

5.4M oaks to 66.5M oaks

probably shoulda done that earlier...

[prisma beacon]

The requested URL was not found on the server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again.

[finite charm]

huh weird

[strong socket]

creator got banned

[finite charm]

really?

[amber dagger]

Can we finally use candies in w5?

[lapis glacier]

Does the doot pet work if you dont have world 5 unlocked?

[amber dagger]

Yes

[tawdry steeple]

from what iv'e heard you have to have 1st god unlocked

[lapis glacier]

ok gotcha

[prisma beacon]

i've been stuck in gaming for 3 months because of nug

[tawdry steeple]

snail is about the same unless you got a nug under like 1k

[finite charm]

so he took the site down cuz he got banned?

[strong socket]

he took it down shortly before the ban

[finite charm]

damn that's lame :/

[tired geyser]

F

[modern plaza]

would yall say hyper obols are worth?

[visual lava]

yes and no

[chrome tiger]

is the kattle gear actually less dps?

[visual lava]

compared to price? no. Is there any other way to get them? no. So yes? also no.

[quartz urchin]

id say no theyre not. the drop rate obols are good but its an rng if youll get them and the others youll eventually replace with dr obols

[void pulsar]

for the new "Super chow" buff on cooking, does the blood barb need to be the one at 100m, or is it the deathnote?

[chrome tiger]

bb

[void pulsar]

does it stack with multiple bb?

ive got two, lol

[chrome tiger]

it does not stack, and if you have multiple, you need to get them on the second one

[void pulsar]

christtt

[chrome tiger]

merry xmas

[void pulsar]

ah well, never gonna happen then

[chrome tiger]

it's not that bad once you progress

[void pulsar]

it is when that second bb was used as a fishin and cookin bot exclusively lol

its me bozo

[modern plaza]

u'd say the all stats is still just worse than DR obols? i feel like they might be kinda alright. but the multikill would be very minimal on a vman, not strong enough obv

[chrome tiger]

fishing is better with 3d prints, and you can suspend cookin for a bit to farm

[quartz urchin]

i mean its nice but at the end of the day theres plenty of ways to get stats but much much less to get DR

[modern plaza]

yeah makes sense

[undone steeple]

is there any place i can check kill requirement for next lvl on w5?

im trying to decide if pushing it for kattlecruck is worth it atm

[tawdry steeple]

I think last map before boss is 3m kills if that helps

[undone steeple]

it helps and its not that bad

im on orange and its 1m

so it doesnt scale that horribly

[dapper meadow]

The lamps are 2m I believe. I’m at 1.5 :x

[fallen jacinth]

does upgrade the pet increase pet power ?

[zealous niche]

Increases chance of next pet

[tawdry steeple]

no just better chance at unlocking next pet

[fallen jacinth]

oh okay

[zealous niche]

Breeding level increases the min and max pet power

[opaque sun]

not much reason to spend splice genes if at 100%

[zealous niche]

Hunter talent also can

Or beast master

Whichever tab it’s in

Also how are you in w5 with a max breeding of just a frog?

I am confused

[dreamy merlin]

They prob have more but just took pic on frog

[fallen jacinth]

yeah i just scr a random pet

[zealous niche]

No shiny form? I thought you could breed shinies as soon as you got the next pet

[modern plaza]

just shinies is it worth then upgrading those things... but yeah shiny chance gets so juiced late game anyways

[nimble yarrow]

for getting higher speed boats, should I focus on trying to get materials from the first few islands and upgrading those boats, or going for the boats that have material from further islands?

[wet hatch]

What can I do to help out my vman dmg? He's the only that is this low. My dk has over 1b

[carmine cipher]

How much would it cost to get guaranteed doot with the pity

[opaque sun]

like 420-560$

[wet hatch]

You kind of snowball it by stacking speed up every new island

[opaque sun]

420 is like including trashing pets to get some greengems

[wanton gazelle]

I rotate every few days

[wet hatch]

When you get new boats you throw them on the shorter islands

Unless you're trying for a specific relic, then you just leave them idle if they can't contribute

[nimble yarrow]

i just unlocked the 13th island and my fastest guy takes about 7 hours to get to it on my fastest boat so just trying to reduce that really

[wanton gazelle]

What's yalls gmush setup looking like now a days?

[wanton gazelle]

I'd say start all your boats at the start, then move them up once the levels slow

Whenever I hit a wall that's what I do

[coral goblet]

whats the point in vip membership for library after u get the crit talent?

[sweet mountain]

Almost there. Guess I will try again next week.

Do pets that give numerical bonuses, like the slug, slime, etc... stack? Or having multiples from free roll is useless?

[wanton gazelle]

No

[wanton gazelle]

None yet

[zealous niche]

No stacking at all

[vernal iris]

bro if you ain't rockin' multiple doots are you even playing the game

[zealous niche]

I am dootless

Dootnations for the poor?

[modest warren]

whats the mining speed cap

[zealous niche]

When you get it to 999, you can buy talents that don’t do anything

[opaque sun]

dupe of a paid pull can be used as a trade material in the future, but a free pull dupe has absolute no purpose

[wet hatch]

Did meel drop rates get buffed? That's what I got from 1 character lol

[hybrid geode]

timing of game freeze is actually wild

[opaque sun]

More like you got stronger with multikill

[wet hatch]

O yeah, multi kill lol

[modest warren]

remember the good old days of having to farm a week just to finish the quest once

[raven fog]

Guys snap shoting is when i put my stat gear than save the game than switch to other gear ?

[sharp kettle]

Yea either save or just entering the map

[tawdry steeple]

kattle kinda hard with vman...

270b damage shouldve tweaked his damage more, still got kill though

[pseudo laurel]

Is the pet bug in ios fixed yet?

[regal trail]

9/10 nice

[modern plaza]

STOP IT PLZ

10/10 only

[sharp kettle]

Recipe?

[gentle furnace]

success enhancement numbers

[sharp kettle]

So more rng

[modern plaza]

weird going from +stats to DMG and DR

[placid mural]

can you do a last second switcharoo to DR card set in boss fight and it still work?

[opaque sun]

because lava values total damage misc (which is a crap misc) over stats

[modern plaza]

is Kettlecorns neck better than chizoos?

[opaque sun]

for active, kattle pendant is bit better. But the crafted scarf is the definitive best in afk

magma gear is still good as a mining/chopping gear

And also magma body and pants better for active farming

[modern plaza]

ughhhh soo many choices

hopefully w6 gear just moves from magma gear

[opaque sun]

divine gear is not an upgrade of magma, but more like a sidegrade with a emphasis put on afk combat

[edgy pine]

Wait what happened my mom took my phone for a week what new stuff happened

[rare briar]

Anyone have the anvil recipes for new gear and weapons?

[opaque sun]

wiki has it

[placid mural]

i mean it doesnt cost much to upgrade to the kattle armor, just kattle drops and existing magma gear so its not a huge deal if it builds from kattle instead of magma

[opaque sun]

need to farm kattle a bit, but it wont take that many keys

[modern plaza]

i was kinda dissapointed that magma gear comes from troll gear, just seems like a detour of the original strategy. but i can adjust

[fathom lagoon]

Nah

[opaque sun]

lustre and diabolique armor route remains to be useless

[placid mural]

lol yeah just straight skip past them

dang kattle's 1Q hp bar for nightmar was a bit intimidating at first but. . . . ummm cake

[modern plaza]

not sure why i even make void...

except for weapons

[placid mural]

so does the 3rd quest for tired mole mean you only have to loot the cape/pendant one time since you can transfer and equip to all from there?

[crisp silo]

void leads to chiz i guess

[strong pendant]

hey is there a way to use chemical effectively?

and how many can you have at once? are they just rare?

[zealous niche]

Initially, harvest everything but chemical and cacti, collect nugs

use sprinkler, harvest all cacti then everything but chemical

Repeat until you have no sprinkler charges

Use log, repeat from top

If you can’t use the log, use chemical, repeat from top

[zealous niche]

You can have a full board, they’re just rare

[knotty sentinel]

Does the unending energy prayer affect divinity? I just entered w5 and I'd like to speed the process up as quickly as possible

[sharp wind]

is this skill any use for afk?

[frigid acorn]

no , stamp and bless levels , artifact matters
also mages specific does help too

[knotty sentinel]

Thank You!!!!!

[frigid acorn]

everything giving more bonus as long you invested in it like w4

[dapper prism]

I like it.

[sharp wind]

i mean does it works? or only for active?

[dapper prism]

Why would it just be active? afaik it should all work same as the normal kpk bubble

[sharp wind]

alright thanks

[modern plaza]

it gives juicy kpk

[opaque sun]

it gives few more kills. Not amazingly big but its something

[dapper prism]

Had to do this fella today, been too scared but did get the 5Q superbit unlock the other day, so it was time to snail it up again!
https://i.imgur.com/VXdYJGE.png

My first fail:
https://i.imgur.com/ccPNLKb.png

and... lvl 8 :d
https://i.imgur.com/FY8AnkX.png

I'm honestly already to scared to go any higher..

idk how people continue this crap xD

a reset would set me back 3 weeks+

[finite charm]

When do you get mail? I just unlocked it but no mail, and had multiple +gaming hours

in one day

[dapper prism]

Its daily reset

[still apex]

I just want to make sure I'm understanding something right. I only have the snake god available, should I link everyone to it? Will I get a free reset after I receive the next god?

[finite charm]

Ah so its game daily not gaming daily

[dapper prism]

1 mail per day (+% chance from snail import upgrade)

[dapper prism]

gaming daily would be amazing 😄

would make kitsune more op

[finite charm]

Right? I've had multiple gaming daily lol

[worn bobcat]

Anybody get the new neck?

[dapper prism]

Your unlinks reset when u unlock a new god, idk how it is now with the 2 unlinks per week if it gives u both unlinks back or just one 😄

[finite charm]

i've pulled 25K+ plants still no chemical plants it sucks lol

needs to be a better way of unlocking evolutions -_-

[dapper prism]

urm, are you letting ur gene/% go too high?

the diminishing returns are extreme

What % are u attempting it at, and how many genes?

[finite charm]

At first i was doing it at 1% but been doing it at 0.1% lol

well .1%-.5% on average

[dapper prism]

Id say 0.3 is a prtty easy sweet spot, around 42ish genes.

1% sounds rough xD

recall how many genes that was?

[finite charm]

yeah i'll do that, better then turning kitsune on and spam checking lol And 36

[dapper prism]

huh, def have kitsune on, helps a ton

[opaque sun]

basically its better to do 100 tries of 0.1% than 5 tries of 0.3%

[finite charm]

yeah it's just a pain and i play other games while playing idleon so the ALT+Tab is a pain xD

[dapper prism]

I'll never forget when someone asked if they should use 1k genes for 3% or do more 2k genes at 3.3% 👀 (sorry to that person, but you'll remain anonymous x3)

[finite charm]

I love gaming but damn i've been trying for months lol

[silk burrow]

Is the w5 pendant better than chizoar scarf?

[near goblet]

0.0001% or 89%, I wont get it either ways!

[opaque sun]

depends on the use like kattle pendant doesnt have any afk boosting capability so its worse in the afk department, but for active the stat% will benefit more

[dapper prism]

Kattle gear overall is weird

Think there will be a buff to any of it?

[opaque sun]

Kattle is not something to wear full gear but its good

[frozen prairie]

magma seems better overall bc %all stat, no?

[opaque sun]

Just learn to pick the necessary stats for the job

like for a full rare afk farming, full kattle is good.
For afk kills, body and pants should be divine, but magma head and boots.
For active its the opposite as head and boots should be divine but body and pants be magma

[dapper prism]

for some cases, but Dr boots and hat* look nice too

[opaque sun]

and for mining/chopping skill gears, magma head, body and pants is still the best

archers are pretty much fine to go full divine

[dapper prism]

just realized the cavity tooth DR is pretty rough at 1/100

[viral snow]

Is there a reason to let plants grow in gaming ?
I know they evolve over time but are there specific ones I should let grow ?
I may or may not have been clicking harvest all most of the time

[opaque sun]

since you would be farming wurms all the time, not so bad

[dapper prism]

unlcok tiers for log book multiplier

Chems on t5 are 1 day skips, which is a full log skip. so you can setup amazing chains too

[opaque sun]

Like troll items were bad since the keys were added to one of the worst mobs to farm

[dapper prism]

(especially with kitsune on)

[viral snow]

That would require me to have log yet

Thanks nonetheless will pay atention when i finally get my next big nugget

Is there anything else I could do to get more bits besides upgrading value/speed and spending 8 hours checking progress ?

[near goblet]

Become bros with rngjesus

[viral snow]

You got his phone number ?
Will send him some gems right away

[near goblet]

No no

Its about the journey

Find him, become bros over long friendship and later find out he is rngjesus

[viral snow]

Then I will be back to placing my shovel on every pixel possible

[quartz urchin]

Po box and big bubble help a lot

[modern plaza]

PO box secret game breaking mechanism

[dapper prism]

Just make sure you move the shuffle in this order:
up up down down left right left right b a start

[viral snow]

Been trying to get the artifact for a while now
But rngjesus seems to be busy with other people

[viral snow]

I will just wait couple days to try this combo at all once

[obtuse marsh]

Hi just got sheepie as a follower pet, if i have bubble equped does it count twice?

[opaque sun]

With sheepie, wearing bubbles does nothing

[obtuse marsh]

thanks

[dapper prism]

Which bubble will affect my sample the most for woodcutting here, where should i focus atoms into?
https://i.imgur.com/9uRwxKi.png

[gentle furnace]

All the ones with green marks

[dapper prism]

Any of them specifically though, that will help the most, or what breakpoints to aim for really?

[gentle furnace]

id say they give almost equal boost to your samples

[narrow cloak]

do you need to have the quest active to get red frisbee to drop? i think i afk'ed long enough to get guaranteed drop but got no frisbee drop

and mk definitely affects it? i had 4.2k base kills per hour with multikill (8.4k + 2x kpk) and 2.97 drop rate and i calculated i need 16hrs of afk, i did 20hrs and not a single frisbee dropped

[vocal ibex]

I have tissues 🤧

What's a frisbee for?

Try equipping the lab equip item for better drops. A ring and the new hat it's not expensive.

[hollow wasp]

is for a quest

[narrow cloak]

I specifically afked for 20hrs cuz i thought i was gonna hit the guaranteed drop window but i guess my calculations are off or something

[narrow cloak]

they only increase lab efficiency tho, how does that help?

damn got nobisect with my first 5% attempt lmao, not even mad about the frisbee anymore

[radiant wren]

How does everyone feel about the new armor stone from the boss, it's a good success % but im iffy on if the weapon power is worth potentially borking high end armor

[winged hull]

Russian roulette

Better to wait for w6

[zealous niche]

Can’t bring myself to use any of those stones

[winged hull]

Risk it for a biscuit

[opaque sun]

the expected success chance against what it raises is not worth it. Need more chance to get a better expectancy

[noble mesa]

I used on the pens and gat 8/9
I think its worth it

[opaque sun]

Only use is like for making the best possible stinger gloves for bubo

[viral snow]

Just use them on w1 gear so you can just craft new gear when it fails

[narrow cloak]

in sailing map view, the times above the heads of ships is the round trip time, right?

[vocal warren]

How much dmg does vman need for nightmare kattle?

[opaque sun]

50b ish if you can manage to clear the moles manually, 200b+ to beat the crap out of it before moles reach kattle

[vocal warren]

Oof how 🥵

[haughty sedge]

Which upgrade stones are people using now for the new boss set?

[opaque sun]

store stones usually

[modern plaza]

depends how juiced you are

[opaque sun]

The expectancy of boss stones isnt that great as using store stones, so unless there is a better way to raise the 68% chance, boss stones isnt that great

[modern plaza]

but boss stones allow you to push new limits after the normal stones. think of it like you make your base set and then you make sets that can hit huge rng

[opaque sun]

later when you are swimming in salts and can make troll gears like as you would spam w1 items

[modern plaza]

also min max… consider w6 gear will be even better

[opaque sun]

one option is to boss stone magma gears and if it succeeds, you keep it as a skill gear, and if it fails, you just make skull gears out of it

[finite charm]

How do you raise the minor link bonus again? I fogot lol

[narrow cloak]

it's based on your divinity level for that character afaik

[finite charm]

But no set level for each huh?

[narrow cloak]

what do you mean?

[finite charm]

Like for nobisect, what divinity level do you need to max the minor link bonus?

Or for arctis, 7.7 talent levels but max is 15

[narrow cloak]

the wiki said it's practically impossible to reach the max, dunno if that's accurate

[finite charm]

ohhhh shit that sucks 😦

[narrow cloak]

there's formula for bonus from level on wiki

[dense eagle]

any tips on how to fight nightmare kattlekruk with vman before i start?

[open grotto]

thats good enough for it

just need to make sure ur killing off both sides with whip and coin between the aoe kill skill

and squeezing dps after aoe kill

[dense eagle]

when you sat aoe kill you mean the spell that kills all the map?

[open grotto]

Yea

[dense eagle]

we just play around that?

kk mate thanks

[open grotto]

I did the aoe kill and did dps and hten u nee dto run back and forth with whip and coin

and repeat until dead will take a bit

[dense eagle]

oh wait i just realize i can make the new weapon and squize a bit more dmg

[grim hemlock]

any tip for getting version 6 of gaming plants? feels like it never ever happens

[gentle inlet]

Would you recommend me to invest more into this skill ?

[zealous niche]

wait faster

If you've got the cat rock activated you've done all you can for getting them as fast as possible

[dapper prism]

Gotta work on that DR xD
https://i.imgur.com/1p6jd4H.png

[dapper prism]

Dont let genes get to high, there's big diminishing returns

[narrow cloak]

yeah still a bit too early i guess for me to try to get it

[dapper prism]

Early? you're in w5 chat, ppl do that quest way sooner o.o
Just Active with ES for a while?

[finite charm]

you get 1 mail a day from snail? That's dumb -_-

[dapper prism]

With a chance at 2 (snail upgrade)

[finite charm]

that's cute -_- i just unlocked him a couple hours ago lol now i have to wait 2 more days

[steady turret]

Upgrade him and at 20% you get 6 every 5 days on average

[dapper prism]

Yup its pretty annoying tbh

[narrow cloak]

will es really help that much? i get to like 90 stacks of portal

[steady turret]

ES helps yea

[dapper prism]

That's the purpose of ES

[narrow cloak]

i need 100hrs it seems for a guaranteed drop even if it halves the time i don't wanna sit there for 50 hours

[dapper prism]

lol, afk is nowhere close to active

[steady turret]

If you active ES it shouldn't be that long

[haughty path]

Active ES achieves easily 10x what you will when afk

[narrow cloak]

ok that's still 10 hours of active lmao

[dapper prism]

at least.. you know there's a ton of variables

your wormhole is a multiplier on ur DR

[narrow cloak]

wait multiplier?

i thought it's additive

[haughty path]

Wormhole mobs have higher drop rates than normal mobs

[narrow cloak]

i tried active for like half an hour and can get to 900%~ wormhole with 3dr, does that make it 27dr?

[dapper prism]

From what i was told/understood
And if you feel to weak for red frisbee at this point, just do it again later

[opaque sun]

off topic, you should really work on that base 3 dr a bit more

[haughty path]

What level are you at spirguiz?

[dapper prism]

Does it directly multi on ur base dr btw?

[narrow cloak]

100 on my es

[opaque sun]

early people thought it was additive, but later looking at the mob drops per portal kills, it seems multi on your base dr

[narrow cloak]

damn that makes it 1 in 3.5k~ and with how many kills i can get it should be pretty fast

[haughty path]

You need to work on that probably more than anything right now. Increasing my DR has significantly increased the rate of progress

Spending a day or two farming Giga Frogs will make a huge difference to your account. And ultitmately, you need to do it anyway

[dapper prism]

and grinding out cards

[narrow cloak]

for the dr obols?

[dapper prism]

yes

[haughty path]

Yeah, the pop obols are pretty insane

[narrow cloak]

they're 1 in 100k too, i need drop rate to get more drop rate lmao

[azure spindle]

do ES portal mobs have additive drop rate or multiplicative drop rate with base dr?

[haughty path]

You'll melt them quick enough that you'll get 1-2 an hour

[dapper prism]

looks multi, was just discussed lkike 10 chats above

[azure spindle]

oh sorry missed it

[dapper prism]

since it's too op to be additive

[azure spindle]

geez, didn't realize how good it was

[haughty path]

It's not as good as a DK I expect

[dapper prism]

They have a different purpose

ES > DK for pop farming, cards etc.

[azure spindle]

I've heard that crytals is better for DK but if the drop is in the mobs drops then go ES

[opaque sun]

Its important to have good base dr on both ES and DK, just that the midas penalty is too big of a penalty for ES to use

[dapper prism]

ES is for the rare drops on main drop table of mobs. The DR does not affect other mobs, only wormhole mobs.

DK is for "other" mobs like crystals, and minibosses. as orb affects those.

Yeh, do NOT use Midas Prayer on ES, but it's fine on DK if you 1 shot mobs. Since ES needs to progress to high wormhole kills, and that extra hp = rip

[haughty path]

I doubt at level 100 they've even opened Midas

I certainly haven't (although I likely can if I make a run)

[dapper prism]

then again, cant really be in w5 with only a level 100. So their es must be 100 and they still have a higher character

[haughty path]

I actually need to make the effort and do a tower run in different worlds. Thanks for the reminder!

[narrow cloak]

yeah my bubo is 150

[frozen prairie]

is the construction starsign additive? beacuse it doesn't seem to change my actual xp rate

[dense eagle]

oh got this thing is sweetttt

[opaque sun]

best afk pendant slot

[dense eagle]

need to unfilter the lucky lad now tho

[opaque sun]

Also means bye bye persephone

[dapper prism]

ty for reminder

[dense eagle]

yep np mate

[heady scaffold]

also best active pendant, because steam pendant doesnt exist

[opaque sun]

for active, the boss tooth pendant is also an option

[dense eagle]

btw someone did the math on what is the best way to farm the kattlecruk pedant? nighmare gives best odds per key?

[heady scaffold]

normal is always the best

[opaque sun]

there isnt really a definitive best active pendand sadly besides steamy

[heady scaffold]

but hf doing that many runs

[dense eagle]

for that amezing thing i will do a lot of things

[opaque sun]

Normal you can do 70 tries so its like 0.007% while nightmare one fight is 0.004%

So yeah just for pendant its theoretically best to spam normal, but if you also need the cape for the quest, nm isnt that bad

[dapper prism]

plus the extra keys u get

or does kattle not drop keys? (ig it should from merit)

[opaque sun]

It does like other bosses

[dapper prism]

Yeh, so 40% extra keys then 40% on that. etc

[opaque sun]

Of course, normal spam ignores the irl time and work spent on you

[dapper prism]

The time spent = rip xD

[dense eagle]

oh yea the cape is a good point

[opaque sun]

Will need to get one cape at some point as trophy too good to miss

[dapper prism]

plus decay tooth that's 1/100 (chaotic), would be nice to get a bunch of those too

[dense eagle]

but if you talk about time it is still faster to do like 70 normals then 1 nighmare with vman

[heady scaffold]

[still apex]

Does polytheism only apply to who has the talent?
And does shared belief work twice with two ES'.

[opaque sun]

for now, later like in w6 even a cursed vman will one punch kill nm kattle

[dense eagle]

you have the cape stat? how nice they are we need 10 of those?

[dapper prism]

each es, own 2nd god. and yes only to es

[opaque sun]

cape itself it meh

its like 3% afk gain or something

[heady scaffold]

cape exists to get trophy

[dense eagle]

oh kk so 1 will be enough then

[opaque sun]

its more important as a trophy requirement

[dense eagle]

yea yea the trophy is swee

[still apex]

Oh i didnt mean the double linking i was talking about the passive bonus.

[crisp silo]

so uh do we get daily keys for krunk from mole or we just gotta murk the mobs?

[opaque sun]

lava adding so many bad capes to dilute the occasional fomo cape gacha

[dapper prism]

mobs like w4. but in w5 its last 3 zones that give keys. at 75k/50k/25k odds respectively

[crisp silo]

man

[opaque sun]

Unlike w4, wurms is a good map to farm (until w6 arrives)

[crisp silo]

guess my boys are just gonna push for the next week(s)

[dapper prism]

Anyone ever actually use the money card?
https://i.imgur.com/eaPaLOa.png

[crisp silo]

its prob the best money card rn

[dapper prism]

well yes its the best money card, but wondering if its really worth it since it's in group 7 (the largest group already)

[crisp silo]

ya got anything else u rather run?

[opaque sun]

On bubo? Yes like other dr cards

[dapper prism]

active exp? DR to hit next breakpoint

[tulip lark]

is idleon efficiency website down? some portions of it aren't working for me

[viral snow]

works fine for me

[tulip lark]

strange.

[dapper prism]

had that earlier, but works again, try another browser, that can help

[opaque sun]

On other non-bubo you dont really need money cards

[crisp silo]

then i guess it solves that

[viral snow]

you guys know when 3d printing triggers ?
Is it account specific or is there a global time ?

[dapper prism]

toolbox shows it

[tulip lark]

good suggestion...I'll try bing LOL

[opaque sun]

Printer hourly is account specific

[crisp silo]

man why does the auto sort not sort the boss mats next to each other

[viral snow]

good to know thanks
just missed it by 20min

[crisp silo]

it alr does w1-4 together why not 5

[opaque sun]

Auto sort treats boss as trash mobs too

[dapper prism]

probably based on Database ID of numbers and didnt leave enough gaps for them 🤷

[opaque sun]

Watch in w6 boss lava makes w6 boss mats line up next to troll mats, proving it was just lava’s mistake on kattle

[dapper prism]

yeh that could easily be as from the looks it just seems like kattle teeth come after wurms, so he may have just used a wrong id for it

lol, didnt want to 20 book this on my alt, so just used a single book. and boom 244 xD
https://i.imgur.com/g9GuHpd.png

[modest warren]

should i green stack instablab followers

how hard coult it be

[peak bane]

How many green mushroom kills do i need for vman?

[silent halo]

12m

anyone know how people are getting 250%+ afk gain on monsters? i am close to maintenance mode and cant even crack 120% :/

[dapper prism]

Sorry cant help, i only have 249%
https://i.imgur.com/aqnwcQn.png

[silent halo]

:0

[little burrow]

Do you have card, starsign doublers?

[dapper prism]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=afk gain

a lot of stuff that can add to it

[silent halo]

thanks for this. wiki had max 88% or something like that...was way out of date

[dapper prism]

theres also something in #1084911530417606656 for afk gain

[silent halo]

not 5 star and yes card and starsign doubler

[hollow wasp]

is there a max to this btw?

[hollow ledge]

170

[hollow wasp]

damn

im pretty far away huh

[dapper prism]

Nawh, it gets very easy with bubo 200 tente

[hollow ledge]

once you get Fury from relics, its very easy^

[hollow wasp]

lvling my squire a little rn so i maybe unlock 10th char soon

[hollow ledge]

there ya go

[twin token]

How long should it take to get fury? I'm getting artifacts for the 3rd island rn

[dapper prism]

rng is rng

[twin token]

True ig

[dapper prism]

I see people who say they were stuck on fury island for a month, and then i got it in like 3 days.

thats once u r actually at the island

[twin token]

200 isn't possible without fury right?

[dapper prism]

Should be tbh

now with slug

just probably hard

since you usually get fury before the atom +10 or achievement +5 max book too

[hollow wasp]

i linked all my chars with baer now and now i feel like is worth a bit more doing stuff active

[twin token]

You'd have to use symbols and abuse es talent right

[hollow wasp]

i still have 8 on divinity tho xd

[dapper prism]

Not sure what you mean with abuse? but yes, es family, symbols, and all the other unlocks

I get to around book 305 to 310 with it all, eldritch is 75 of it

[twin token]

Oh well then at that point you probs wouldn't be able to put points into tab 4 skills where I believe most of the kills come from

[twin token]

Meant like pushing the talent really hard

Shouldn't have said abuse

[dapper prism]

yeh just like to be sure since i dont do that kinda stuff

[vernal night]

quick question: Do I need to complete Tired Mole's quest on each individual character to unlock boss portal on each or just on 1 character?

[dapper prism]

u dont have to do any quest to enter boss

[vernal night]

oh fuck thanks!

ahahaha

big brain here

[dapper prism]

still need the quest for trophy chance once you have scarf or something like that 🤔

[vernal night]

I guess the quest is able to be completed on each individual character?

[grim fossil]

is mirror link bonus from worship (always active buff) ?

[weary hinge]

the minor is for the ones who has link on it. just like the main link bonus

unless its specified that it applies to all characters, but yes its active always

[grim fossil]

i see, thank you

[runic token]

pretty sure this captain is better than many of my captains but idleontoolbox isn't telling me it is.

its better than T right?

[crisp silo]

probably

[weary hinge]

its better than your G, O, P, or Q, but if you still need the speed, stick to them

[runic token]

speed is for discovering islands?

[weary hinge]

your boat speed, so it affects the island discovery faster yea

[opaque sun]

Its better than T, but like its not worth to level up again from lv1

[runic token]

ive got all islands, so ditch speeD?

[weary hinge]

not immediately

[runic token]

how come toolbox isnt saying its better than them? does it prioritize speed?

[weary hinge]

i have no answer for that, mb

[runic token]

ahh you're good thanks for the help

[remote sluice]

I dont know if its cause i am Lazy but i dont have 4,5 Anvil unlocked and have 91 points i can unlock things in the achievement recepies

*unlocks

[weary hinge]

unlock them, doesnt matter if you dont have w4 anvil yet

[hollow wasp]

can we somewhen gene splice w2 or w3 or smth? im sitting at gmush all the time idk if its correct

[remote sluice]

Oh you dont understand 91 points i can't spent cause i dont have 4,5 unlocked

Anvil

[strong nova]

its just me or kattle never drop card

[weary hinge]

w2 and w3 splicers have diff recipe drops. w3 comes from the thermometers. w2 i forgot if its pincers.

[opaque sun]

kattle just have bad card rate

[feral hemlock]

It drops

[pliant arch]

You need to upgrade the tool. Can be up to w4 https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Ergonomic_DNA_Splicer

[opaque sun]

Its like one card every 5 fight level of bad rate

[crude oxide]

Yo so this is his response after all this time? Seriously?

[weary hinge]

yep.

[crude oxide]

Been real dudes, thanks for the laughs I guess

[opaque sun]

yes “the steam sales number proves this is a good game. And i paid for an ad video im not showing to you”

[hollow wasp]

oh lol

[stuck pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/see-ralph-thesimpsons-gif-4390318

[viral snow]

https://youtu.be/Sl8ud9gsKfo
Thats the video that was linked for a while

[bold quiver]

2 left lets go

the dif between my first 3 boats so high lol, ive never farmed those green fruits

[left harness]

I just got the 8th slot in trapping unlocked, is there a "most" efficient setup to get all critters?

[bold quiver]

all critters? just divide the number of traps vs how many critters exist. Since u can place everything with hunter its easier to do it