lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[versed cypress]

i mean i dont play much, i cant play actively and i have around 8k gems stocked in my inventory not used yet plus aorund 6k gems leftover in my wallet to use at the moment

so stockpling blue gems is not really that bad

[lyric sequoia]

I also enjoy that my prediction that elite resets wouldn't get moved from fomo to the regular shop has been proven right

[deep lodge]

And 5* cardifiers have only been replenished, not added, so more fomo

[lyric sequoia]

Real bored of chem not unlocking, and fury

[versed cypress]

cardifiers are not really needed, just a comodity to avoid some farming (fuck you nightmare bosses....) the elite swap stuff should be in the normal weekly refreshing shop tough

[deep lodge]

This should be the main screenshot for the game on steam

[placid mural]

Anyone have any thoughts on (probable) upcoming kettle and badger divinities?

[versed cypress]

i mean its not like randomness is a new thing xDDD

[lethal locust]

Where/how do we get W5 boss keys? Are they dropped from mobs or retrieved from NPC?

[versed cypress]

my otughts are just that i hope he doesnt forget about them when w6 comes

[deep lodge]

Mobs, biggole mole and after

[versed cypress]

last 3 mobs from the world

[lethal locust]

Nice okay cool thank you

[unkempt arch]

drop from last 3 map of w5

[lethal locust]

That's generous

[tawny jetty]

not implemented yet

[deep lodge]

You get better on wurms than before mobs tho (3x better)

No need, you can now get doot for 500$ guaranteed

[versed cypress]

ods are 1/75k 1/50k 1/25k respectively

[tawny jetty]

i only spent 200 to get doot

[deep lodge]

"Only"

[hexed crescent]

40% faster mob respawn

You're whalecum

[runic token]

letsssss gooooooo

[versed cypress]

he probably wont see it but you can, you might get a mute or ban depending on what you say

or nothing

[torpid oasis]

oh, magma legs is fixed

no more 10 mil cost

[hexed crescent]

How much does 1 roll cost for companions?

[deep lodge]

I crafted them 2 days ago é_è

[torpid oasis]

rip

[versed cypress]

that means i can get one more set the 11th set to turn into the new kattleset

[deep lodge]

Between 100 and 250 green gems, at 91 gems per $

[hexed crescent]

So Doot is still expensive AF

[lyric sequoia]

$500 pity timer yo

[deep lodge]

500$ for pity, 430$ on average if you include recycling

[versed cypress]

aorund 500 if you go from treat tier 1 and onwards

[hexed crescent]

I wouldn't pay 50

[lyric sequoia]

10m cheese crumbs was easy to get anyway

[hexed crescent]

I guess I'll just wait 200 weeks

[versed cypress]

i think someone calculated around 300-350 if you do all the previous treats free and just do the whole pay when treat is level 5

[torpid oasis]

Yee, but it was still annoying cus of carry capasity needed

pmuch needed the red bag to make it

[lyric sequoia]

Craft from storage yo

[versed cypress]

red bags are rather easy to make

[lyric sequoia]

And if you don't have magma bags on your ES idk what to tell ya

I don't really have that great carry cap boost and my ES has 1.6m mat carry cap with rucksack, so pretty easy

[torpid oasis]

Yee, i just wanted to rush stuff so it annoyed me i had to farm 10m

[lyric sequoia]

Imagine @ ing him 💀

[torpid oasis]

💀

[lyric sequoia]

Do that shit in gen chat yo

[torpid oasis]

or in feedback

[hexed crescent]

buhh Doot buyer buhhh

[gilded vault]

Civilised people craft on their hunters, to give them purpose.

[lyric sequoia]

Craft from storage yo

[runic token]

lmao, you can shit on lava for a month in w5 chat but he can't write one thing?

[lyric sequoia]

Didn't say craft on ES, farm on ES

[lyric sequoia]

I didn't @ him once, that is the shit I'm saying to not do

[shrewd nexus]

for the w5 boss do i need to get all my chars to it? i know i need the first 6 there to defeat it (which im working on now) but should i start pushing all 10 to there?

[lyric sequoia]

Last achievement is 10 chars killing nightmare kattle

[prisma drift]

Ceph doesn’t want the mods in this chat

[lyric sequoia]

And you need all 10 for all the gear

[prisma drift]

Keep the pings and mods away lol

[lyric sequoia]

I don't care about mods in here?

[shrewd nexus]

ah ok, guess ill re-link and get a bunch of insect gods then

[prisma drift]

It was but a joke

He has @‘s off so it’s not like it actually does anything anyways

[dapper prism]

droip rate being better for last map, 75k/50k/25k for the last 3 maps.

[lyric sequoia]

They're in here all the time. @ ing mods or lava for a non-moderation reason when there are places he can specifically go to do that is just bad discord ettiquite

[prisma drift]

There’s no place to ping lava tho is why my joke was a joke

[lyric sequoia]

There's literally a feedback channel

[shrewd nexus]

is nightmare boss as weak as the first 2?

[lyric sequoia]

1Q hp

[heavy moth]

1Q hp

[glacial venture]

card says 1000t hp

[shrewd nexus]

cool,so hit him twice got it

[heavy moth]

1Q is 1000T

[runic token]

fair enough

[prisma drift]

Well I have always had servers do no pinging devs for opinions either way

[jagged relic]

Is ES the best to farm keys? It seems fairly slow

[tawdry steeple]

it is

[prisma drift]

So that’s my bad if you are allowed to ping lava in feedback

[shrewd nexus]

ES is best for all materials including rares, only thing hes not best for is crystal mobs

[lyric sequoia]

The ping doesn't do anything, it's still just bad ettiquite

[royal sierra]

lmao I love how 99% of #best-suggestions-✅ is about doot being op

[hexed crescent]

So is going to a channel called "questions-w5" to discuss Discord ettiquite

[lyric sequoia]

This channel is basically gen chat 2

Or 3 if you take into account endgame chat

Every "last world" channel has been like this since w3 came out

[prisma drift]

Every chat is gen chat

[shrewd nexus]

cephyric is one of the few helpful ppl that didnt get banned (along with sakori and some others) maybe show some respect?

[hexed crescent]

Because people have no Discord ettiquite 😂

[prisma drift]

Rip Tony 😦

[lyric sequoia]

idrc about "respect" lol

[flint hound]

uhhhh ?

where alien logs at

[hexed crescent]

I don't think pointing out the obvious is disrespecful, assuming it seems obvious that the person in question missed it

[lyric sequoia]

The only real difference between me and the people that have been banned is that I have a knack for figuring out where the line is and toe it

[sick sentinel]

you killed em

[flint hound]

LMAO literally

[sick sentinel]

gone

reduced to ashes

[flint hound]

even player menuing and stuff doesn't bring them back

wtf

[stiff prairie]

The aliens decided to take it back

[flint hound]

and its back

[deep lodge]

you can find it in gem shop

[lyric sequoia]

No tree for you

[flint hound]

okay then

[shrewd nexus]

whats the last bit of equip that is unlocked from the boss?

[flint hound]

welcome back :D

[lyric sequoia]

Trees are now an RNG item if you do not have doot

[flint hound]

LMAO

[hexed crescent]

I have seen some skills randomly hit it sometimes, maybe you just have too much damage

[lyric sequoia]

Will you see the tree today? Who knows

[shrewd nexus]

buy perma-tree for red gems

[prisma drift]

Red gems

1$ per red gem

[flint hound]

dreadlo eviscerator just one shot the tree and its gone forever

chopped all the logs in one swing

[lyric sequoia]

$1 per red gem is a steal, that's better rates than green

[shrewd nexus]

f2p trees despawn after 5 hits, 24hour cool down

[hexed crescent]

Lava is the solo dev in a game you play. Show him some respect! 🤡

[tawdry steeple]

there isn't a need for 2 dr captain caps right?

[stiff prairie]

W5 is infecting w4, and burnt all the trees

[shrewd nexus]

eat a dick

[lyric sequoia]

That joke went right over your head there gdog huh

[sick sentinel]

ooo yum dicks 😋

[stiff prairie]

🤡 = sarcasm

[shrewd nexus]

what joke? he was just quoting what i said to be a dick about it

[runic token]

self-inflicted, so no pity there

[stiff prairie]

Spotted dick is an actual foodstuff btw

[prisma drift]

A pirate hat for your SB

[late geyser]

I feel so bad to be honest, I mean 70$ is perfectly fine price and I got incerdebly lucky to get everything, but supporting that changes still an awful move.

[lyric sequoia]

You said that? You're not a "free game no bitching" person are you? 🤔

[quartz laurel]

Hello

[sharp igloo]

Is the boss gear even better than magma gear? 8% total damage seems like it could be worse than 4% damage and 4% allstat

[deep lodge]

I'm rather a "free bitching" type of guy

[heavy moth]

what are those

[stiff prairie]

I thankfully have put enough in that i can get a free doot next year by recycling some of the companions i already got (if i get duplicated via free). I wont be supporting anymore though

[prisma drift]

Dungeon gear

[hexed crescent]

What I was doing was illustrating how much of a dick you were being

[late geyser]

It depends on how much DR you want I suppose.

[heavy moth]

is that new 😮

[prisma drift]

Must be because I’ve never seen them lol

[lyric sequoia]

If the pity timer was $70 that's be "still real bad, but at least it's there". This $500 pity timer is just there so he can get the update on iOS

[prisma drift]

Still can’t get them though

[deep lodge]

Wait, pity doesn't reset once you get doot? Or did you continue pulling to get other pets after?

[heavy moth]

sad ahah was trying to see kattle gear in slab on IE or IT but only found those

[quartz laurel]

Hey guys what are we taking about?

[lyric sequoia]

Pity timer is for doot only, not the other pets

[deep lodge]

We bitchin' about the update

[tacit tulip]

idleon

[prisma drift]

Need to wait for the super elite classes lol

[stiff prairie]

I will have enough for a pity doot in 81 free pulls. I have almost enough green gems to spend in that final pull for pity doot (which needs to be spent with green gems)

[lyric sequoia]

81 weeks of pulls for pity doot

[heavy moth]

RIP

[deep lodge]

I know, but let's say you get doot at random at 150 pulls. Do your pity pulls get reset or not?

[stiff prairie]

So long as i get a companion like crystal custard for free, i can recycle the one i already have to get enough greens for that pity doot

[tacit tulip]

on that note, the roadmap has the next set of classes with w7 - what happens with w6 skills

[lyric sequoia]

Pity timers usualllyeither reset or disappear once you hit the thing it is pitying you for, yes

[tawdry steeple]

you guys think he will release arena to w5?

[late geyser]

Now I'm gonna think that we have another problem of how actually broken doot is. I have no idea how to play the game with all 10 character free from lab prison when everything was optimize with like 1 active and 1-2 afk-fighting chars lol.
Also daily management seems crazy lol.

[stiff prairie]

I think a lot of things. And lava destroys my expectation of him wvery time

[prisma drift]

No Colo for awhile because then keys will be easier to get lol

[deep lodge]

So you mean that you pulled 119 times for other pets after getting doot?

[prisma drift]

Lava wants to watch us struggle for keys

[lyric sequoia]

kattle keys aren't hard to get

[prisma drift]

I mean for me 70 keys is a lot

[deep lodge]

Put everyone on gmush, take out who you need to do other stuff I guess

[prisma drift]

And that’s just a chance at a rare drop

[shrewd nexus]

whats the last bit of equip unlocked from the boss?

[sick sentinel]

wish i could show you

[torpid oasis]

the trophy is so insane

[lyric sequoia]

I've gotten around 60 keys in a few hours of ES on socks, not huge

[chrome tiger]

What's the last challenge?

[prisma drift]

I wish I could pull keys that fast

[deep lodge]

Kill nightmare on all 10 I believe

[chrome tiger]

Ez 😎

[torpid oasis]

That one is fun on vman

[torpid oasis]

[lyric sequoia]

Kruk 10 is the biggest wait, you'll need around 800 keys for it

[late geyser]

Gmushing feels extremely ineffective when I have like 1 lava set and 1 weapon of of every kind, lol.

[sick sentinel]

thats nasty

[stiff prairie]

I'm dootless

[shrewd nexus]

@sick sentinel do you have "divine scarf" unlocked?

[tawdry steeple]

it has so much afk gain is that real?

[lyric sequoia]

Still probably not awful though, Sit most chars on doing the new NPC quests and you'll get a bunch

[sick sentinel]

brother i posted my unlock saying i havent gotten it yet lol

[stiff prairie]

I'm not even mad a lava over the companions. i'm just disapointed

And my wallet shall reflect that. forever closed for idleon

[torpid oasis]

Companions wouldnt be that much of a issue if you could killroy it

[shrewd nexus]

ah ok, im trying to work out what the last one is, if you dont have it last must be scarf

[deep lodge]

My bad, just saw I confused your reply with @late geyser's doot lol

[sick sentinel]

ye the one sakori posted

[shrewd nexus]

thanks

[stiff prairie]

Or link them to a W4 dungeon.

[torpid oasis]

that too

[stiff prairie]

There were a lot of options they could have been linked too that could still have been "P2W" for whales. but instead he made it almost exclusively for whales

[torpid oasis]

Thankfully i got something else to tilt over than companions

[dapper prism]

What gene count / % are you doing it at, and do you have kitty rock on?

[torpid oasis]

Got rock on yee

[dapper prism]

and then more importantly, dont let ur genes get high

[shrewd nexus]

use a belt if necessary

[lyric sequoia]

Huh, ok that's a pretty neat arcade rotation

[hollow wasp]

oh while gaming league of legends i been idling at gigafrogs. i just dropped 2 pops

idk from where i got the wis

[fallow pawn]

i guess red cogs still got it in them

crystals probably @hollow wasp

[sick sentinel]

crystals dont drop pops, only gigafrogs

[fallow pawn]

well it wasnt about the pops

[sick sentinel]

i cant read

[hollow wasp]

oh ye maybe

[sick sentinel]

forgive me

[hollow wasp]

then i got all 3 pops there at gigas i guess. im almost at 100k gigafrogs.

also while i was at 31k kills i was 9 more cards till lvl up. (1 lvl before) and now im again 3 before lvl up

woah

but wait. theres this thing what makes 3 star to 4 star cards

can u also collect enough cards to make it 4 star without this?

wait 4 to 5, sorry

is there a card rank icon overview somewhere?

[sick sentinel]

yeah its the last rift bonus that will take a while to get to, but mob cards are fairly easily farmable so i would save 5* cardifiers for things like nightmare bosses

[hollow wasp]

or wait, no star is "lvl 0", and then every star is for every lvl huh, im just dumb

i was thinking about the icons from the lvls. but im just dumb it makes all sense

btw - i rly want this maestro ><

he still needs so many skill lvls

[tender pine]

https://slwykng71490.idleonefficiency.com can anyone look through this and tell me what I should upgrade or do next? I am struggling with damage and defence at stilt moles.

[hexed elm]

early w5 is it viable to farm cards on es? i dont have maestro yet

[viral snow]

pick up w1 boss keys for sure

[hollow wasp]

thats what i do.

[hexed elm]

sounds good

ty guys

[hollow wasp]

took me idk 2 hours to get from lvl 0 gigafrog to lvl 2 gigafrog

[hexed elm]

yeah i think i could def get some decent rates

[heavy moth]

divine scarf is HUGE for sampling 😮

[hollow wasp]

and i just came to w5 2 days ago

[loud flower]

What are the stats of divine scarf?

[heavy moth]

with chip its double 😮

epic for gmush ing too

[stiff prairie]

To save some talent points, you only want aura, tenteyecle, virile vials, wis wumbo and cranium cooking on the shaman tab.
For the bubo tab, raise dead/flatulent spirit (and 1 point in chemical warfare), wired in power, memorial skulls, utmost intelect, the family guy and symbol - p.

the skill set-up is just 4 things.
Aura, raise dead, flatulent spirit, cranium cooking. (and theres many debaits on the order of aura and raise dead).
IDle casting isn't that useful for bubo as he's an active class. The +mana talents are also good options to take thanks to overclocked.

[heavy moth]

even obol is aweosme for sampling

[stiff prairie]

On your mage tab, the talent points you invested into fireball and energy bolt can instead be invested into mana overdrive and chopping it up ez for more damage.

[queen lodge]

Also max the star talent : Goblet Of Hemoglobin
It's one of the best star talent

[stiff prairie]

^yes. i forgot to check special talents

[queen lodge]

W1 task are easy to do and it really is going to help you survive more

[hexed elm]

hemogoblin is the best star talent imo

[stiff prairie]

Assuming you're going to use a star point reset potion, will of eldest can go to lvl 18, best bigger class only needs lvl 8, toilet paperp ostage isn't needed on a battle build, tick tock can be forgotten because bubo is active, stonks at 30 for the most optimal imput/output. attack on simmer isn't needed (again active) goblet of homeoglobin to 50 asap.
tab 2/3 are fine as is.
Next thing. Stamps. Invest in every stamp that gives +% damage, +base damage, +wisdom, + mp for damage, and +str, +hp, +def for survivability.
Unlock diamond axe stamp (capital P quest) and star graph stamp (xx cattleprod xx quest)

[dapper prism]

anyone have a link to the doc guide that shows basic build priority for talents for a newer player?

[hollow wasp]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml# is this?

[dapper prism]

Tyvm

[viral snow]

Someone here with P or S player for Cattleprod quest ?

[heavy moth]

with P here

what server

[viral snow]

cog 2 town w2

[heavy moth]

what do i have to say XD

[viral snow]

1 star, game sucks!

Cheers thanks alot

[heavy moth]

😛 yw

[timber jetty]

BRUH 2 lucky lads for the new necklace????

[true obsidian]

Uhm, is there anyway to increase Drop rate? I'm full drop rate obols + enhance them for max drop rate + drop rate card but still can't reach x10 drop rate. Please don't say "Get Doot", i really need to get more drop rate

[heavy moth]

someone called it XD

[tawdry steeple]

doot doesn't increase drop rate

[viral snow]

Get gud

[dapper prism]

SB talent?

[viral snow]

use ES
Star signs ?

[dapper prism]

It's multi on your DR

[hexed crescent]

Starting saying "buhh" whenever you see someone with Doot. It won't buff your droprate, it will just make you luckier

[dapper prism]

You want to max this out on your SB that's sitting in lab.
https://i.imgur.com/dLcDd5Z.png

[viral snow]

Juicy 3% for me
https://i.imgur.com/yRoYLej.png

[true obsidian]

Need more flat drop rate, i know we can use ES but 1 ES with x10 x12 drop rate still better than 1 ES with x9 drop rate

[grand karma]

yo guys, sorry to ask that here but whats the requirement for troll to not have imunity on start?

[true obsidian]

And i actually finish all 3 elite classes achievement, 1m all of them

[fallen jacinth]

guys does captain appearance make any difference

or only the stat that matter

[sick sentinel]

something like task 3 allows you to have hits before immune stage

[grand karma]

oh thank you

[true obsidian]

Yes, those higher tier captain get more stats range

[fallen jacinth]

okay thanks

[azure bobcat]

can anyone link that guide spreadsheet with pets td etc?

[true obsidian]

For example basic captain only have 1~25( this is not corect, just ex) but the highest tier can get 1-60%

[true obsidian]

But still an rng...they raise the cap not the minimum, so you still can get high tier captain with 1% stats...

[agile pagoda]

Dupes dont stack, right...?

[bleak gazelle]

no

[hollow wasp]

3x untradeable already 😮

[tacit tulip]

didn't forsee this issue

[stiff prairie]

If only. imagine having big bubbles applied twice

[keen rapids]

Kinda disappointed ngl

[narrow pasture]

Anyone knowing whether Kattle Kruk drops cards?

[tacit tulip]

It does they're jsut super low rate

basic is like, 1/1250

[heavy moth]

how come

[narrow pasture]

god damn, thanks nevertheless

[near goblet]

Cause its an absolutely low effort boss

[hexed crescent]

I very much prefer this over Troll

[keen rapids]

Everything about it man, also weirdly on dk the mole kills aren't counting on the orb

[tacit tulip]

bosses are usually immune to orb right?

[heavy moth]

would have been awesome 😮

[fervent brook]

Is hyper stat obol better than pop obol

[heavy moth]

yea was wondering if its something more but is tehre a boss lategamer cant kill easily, i mean the boss is probably hard for most of people

[near goblet]

Troll was an annoyance at first but I still prefer to have Something different between a world boss and a mob

[cyan marsh]

are we able to trade pets yet?

[near goblet]

Its just damage sponge, even with low damage you can just start afking there

[cyan marsh]

sadge

[heavy moth]

oh really didnt know that :#

[heavy moth]

mobs arent healing alot ?

[keen rapids]

THe healing mobs are just moles

So they are easy to kill :/

[near goblet]

Killiing a mole shouldnt be hard

[vapid warren]

Can anyone explain what Polytheism does? "Link to 2nd god based on talents lv. Stand under Omniphau god to delevel"

[tacit tulip]

the hardest part will be vman on nightmare kill

but rest should be fine

[heavy moth]

no clue i kind of 1 tap him so i didnt know

[keen rapids]

You 1 tapped the nightmare version ;o

[narrow pasture]

you can use 2 gods on one character

[heavy moth]

yes on ES with dmg build

[vapid warren]

Should I max the skill? Or just 1 skill point

[agile pagoda]

What were the chances of getting this one twice in a row...

[narrow pasture]

depends which god you want and how large divine multi you want as well

[agile pagoda]

Really Lava...? I wait a week for this and recycling doesn't do a damn thing?

[hexed crescent]

Why does everyone have 2 sheep?

[placid tusk]

I need the sheep kfjd

[deep lodge]

But there's more people playing than 2 weeks ago :))))))

[agile pagoda]

Could at least give us something for recycling dupes

[near goblet]

Give up, you wont get anything. You arent part of Lava's true community

[vernal depot]

yo guys, has anyone shared the new npc's quests?

[near goblet]

Wiki has it

[vernal depot]

oh nice, thanks

[agile pagoda]

Then... I wont sacrifice sheepie

He shall live on

[vernal depot]

wait are you sure about this?

can't find the new npc either in the npc section, the world 5 section, or even the "source of W5 boss keys" section

[near goblet]

No im not

But its just kill moles, and the mobs after moles

[keen rapids]

There ya go

[keen rapids]

^

[heavy moth]

difficulty 1 RNG 100000

[vernal depot]

jesus, that cape is gonna be rough to get

and hey, are these quests "1 per character" or "1 per account"?

[keen rapids]

Nah man dead easy, im sure it's gonna become a p2w cape

[near goblet]

Chara

[vernal depot]

yay

[keen rapids]

No way man that trophy is op o-o

[barren veldt]

Is new armour worse than magma?

[deep lodge]

Mostly

[barren veldt]

No all stats

[deep lodge]

Yup

[barren veldt]

How about pendant

[near goblet]

🤷‍♂️

[deep lodge]

Lava probably didn't know all stat is good

[barren veldt]

He should swap total damage with stat up

[near goblet]

Total damage is such a sad stat

[vagrant mountain]

I think maybe he didn't expect everyone to have +10k all stat already 😆

[near goblet]

I see +30% total damage and I get like +2% actually

[deep lodge]

Dunno, he seems like he kinda did

[deep lodge]

Problem of additive multipliers To double actual damage with it, you need to double your +Total damage %

[pastel bramble]

i aint happy, 20m worms

[deep lodge]

Seems fine to me tbh

Better than 500 hampters for molten core knucklers i'd say

[tough horizon]

this is quite easy to get

[pastel bramble]

i have them, but i was saving them for alchemy bubble

[deep lodge]

You're gonna be parking your ES there anyway for keys

[vagrant mountain]

touche maybe he is just bad at math

[pastel bramble]

nah im almost done with the tasks i had chars afking there pre-update and claimed a few weeks worth of time 😄

[deep lodge]

Damn

How many keys?

[pastel bramble]

i got around 500-600 on update

[solid goblet]

Should my vman always level skills or can I let him stay in lab and link him to omni?
He is 1st on all important skills

[deep lodge]

Feels like insider trading lol

[pastel bramble]

just dumb luck, i was busy playing a diff game so didnt bother with afk chars, only played my active since pet update 😄

[deep lodge]

But aren't your chars in lab? Or are you a dooter?

[near goblet]

Last task alone needs 700 anyways

[left fossil]

Those 20m wurms are like 1/10th of the time than the hampters for molten

[pastel bramble]

wish i was a dooter, i had arctis on 7 chars cause i had them all farming xp

failed 43 rolls or something so far

[fair root]

[heavy moth]

nice get ready to resample XD

[cyan marsh]

why is rift slug only giving me 25 points in the warrior tab?

[pastel bramble]

the trophy from the quest guy is op too,but u need cape drop to complete it

[deep lodge]

Why do you expect more?

[weak echo]

after 2 weeks of failing 3x on 50% i finally got 100% on rabbit divinity and obtained it and it looks like i straight after it can get goat 100%, but 43k divinity is a lot, i get like 300 for 24h on 1 char... so 3000/day if all chars do divinity, should i just push it or do something else like farming items for eq, and do divinity after, what is better option? any advice?

[cyan marsh]

no its says 25 to all tabs, im only getting them in the 2nd tab

lol

[deep lodge]

Can you screenshot? Seems weird

[heavy moth]

with divine scarf equipped i think so you need necklalce first

[cyan marsh]

yeah gotchu

[placid mural]

why are my Bits not going above 1 red

[cyan marsh]

i think its something with the % level bonus from the ES

[pastel bramble]

necklace has better drop rate than the cape 1/3k

[heavy moth]

yea 😛 my gguess wwith my luck ill get cape before necklace and will enver get cape afterward

[cyan marsh]

SO in this case im not getting ANY tab point

[pastel bramble]

did u cloudsave ...

after getting it

[cyan marsh]

yeah i did

[pastel bramble]

cause if not, do that lol

[cyan marsh]

thats always my first idea

[pastel bramble]

also, i think its library book level raise not a instant buff?

so check ur library lol

[deep lodge]

Did you add 1 point into the talents?

[cyan marsh]

?

[deep lodge]

It's the same as arctis/ES bonus, you need to add 1 point for it to take effect

[narrow cloak]

ya you need at least 1 point in a talent for it to add 25 more

[cyan marsh]

no i havent lvl'd up

OH

wtfff

stange yeah ill try that

yep that seems to work

weird

[deep lodge]

There are a few vman skills as well as the last tab 4 skill that aren't affected tho

[cyan marsh]

ty ty

any advice while im here. last time i posted was a month ago

ive been playing for 3.5 months now

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/

[deep lodge]

That's not your public profile

[cyan marsh]

oh?

[bleak gazelle]

two slime is the real play

[cyan marsh]

https://butt_stink.idleonefficiency.com/

okay hows that?

[pastel bramble]

that name though

[cyan marsh]

lmao

I was at a loss for naming

im struggling with pet battles

[near goblet]

Three is

[deep lodge]

W1:

• You have plenty of easy stamps to level up
• Fill your forge
• Get anvil points, at least up to mafioso (you have all that's needed already) + money points (basically free for you)

[hexed crescent]

ok

[cyan marsh]

FACTs im so suprised my forge ran out

[hollow wasp]

oh no my game frozen, idk since how long

[dapper prism]

You do the active grind with a ton of drops on your screen?

[hollow wasp]

nah, doing w5 idling

ok actually was 30mins freeze already. it is what it is

[deep lodge]

W2:

• Your NBLB bubbles are being wasted on easy lvl 8-9 bubbles
  W3:
• You have quite a few buildings waiting to be built

[cyan marsh]

ohhh is that how that works

shiz

ok cool cool

and yeah my construction feels slow but ive been using cogmatizer

[dapper prism]

be sure to use xp cogs everywhere

[cyan marsh]

yeah?

should i put my players in there aswell?

theyre all around 75/100

[dapper prism]

only squires go onto the board

[deep lodge]

W4:

• Focus on getting meals to 11 (use IE and sort by time to diamond)
• For breeding: follow this guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
  To get more eggs, do W4 colosseum on DK with high orb (although I see you don't have many keys)

[dapper prism]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[dapper prism]

^ has a page for construction

[cyan marsh]

dooope

ty for the resources

[cyan marsh]

yeah i do it at every opportunity

[dapper prism]

Main thing to remember is:

• your BR will scale a lot more with higher levels, all you want really is higher levels.
• Directional XP cogs are very rare but op
• Directional BR cogs are fine to use.
• Also Directional "speed to flags" (aimed at your flags) to unlock slots faster are fine and will be replaced later., Flag rate is aimed at other cogs/heroes to increase the flag rate itself from them.

[deep lodge]

Also, i'm not sure what your max book level is, but get this maxed

As well as this (and a few other important ones)

[vapid wraith]

Is time to diamond not just sequential from top to bottom?

[hollow wasp]

whatr this

[cyan marsh]

my book max lvl is 151 rn

[deep lodge]

Well, not if you're 1 sausage away but 10Q turkeys because you focused sausages before

[deep lodge]

Divine Knight Orb

[muted bramble]

feels like im to far down the rabbit hole to stop mid way ...

[vapid wraith]

Ah I see. I just went straight down the list. Every time I unlock something new, I just rush diamond plate, repeat

[lyric sequoia]

Holy fuck I just found the bright side to this gacha stuff

[grim torrent]

Do enlighten us please

[bold quiver]

Wait, can someone explain why boss map is not on tremor wurms??????? ''.'

[deep lodge]

It used to be an ok technique, but especially since vman cooking talent that gives better speed for each meal level, you're better off sorting by time to cook next

[bold quiver]

cant stop now man, otherwise u will forever be a loser"

[viral snow]

Paying back the loan you took boosts your credit score ?

[prisma drift]

Worms are like rams and bloodbones

[deep lodge]

Bosses were not always on last map (see W1)

[prisma drift]

They are the side area like w3 has

[lyric sequoia]

Doesn't matter how far Lava doubles down, it's extremely unlikely that he'll reach the "90% of our userbase is now imited to 600 tweet reads per day because I have no fucking idea what I am doing"

[bold quiver]

ohhh i see, make sense

[vapid wraith]

Gotcha, once I get vman I'll use IE instead of eyeballing.

[deep lodge]

For example, this would be juicy

[viral snow]

8$/m gets you 6k tweets/d

[bold quiver]

That makes it easier to reach boss map with everyone yay

[prisma drift]

Just gotta grind the keys for the merit

[lyric sequoia]

Twitter loads 100 tweets per page btw

[bold quiver]

yeah i'll slowly get everyone there

[lyric sequoia]

And refreshing twitter is a fresh API call of 100 tweets that you've already seen

[viral snow]

Just read it will be increased to 800 soon

[lyric sequoia]

Loading a tweet embedded in another application or website also counts btw

[viral snow]

Elon must be on that good shit again

[tame flower]

what is that?

[lyric sequoia]

An item lava altered which already existed

The world 5 IOU tokens I had in my storage became world 6 IOUs

[heavy moth]

never found a way to change them into the token

[tame flower]

ok thanks

[lyric sequoia]

You can't

Like all actual crystals, they are useless. Bosses should just not drop them after the world is unlocked

[heavy moth]

go for the gstack

[tame flower]

hahahaha 😄

[final basalt]

https://first_run12.idleonefficiency.com

Having some issues getting Blue souls for the next anvil Rank. Any tips?

[lyric sequoia]

Get better TD records

Or candy for worship charge

[viral snow]

Get higher TD rounds

Also use bubble gum when collecting souls

[final basalt]

So upgrade my party starter tower?

[viral snow]

!guide
There is a section about TD tactics including Level recommendations

[amber dagger]

What does the premium hat modifier do exactly and how does it affect a helmet?

[twin osprey]

So if doot unlocks all divinities can you turn his ability off so people can gain exp in lab? *edit Not sure if they stop gaining exp with doot or not just assuming it would as thats what the divinity does

[tough tusk]

it gives you slab slot

[bleak gazelle]

Is it not still just this?

[heavy moth]

let you trasnforme a normal hat into a premium hat, and you can combien that to a premium swap to make a sick ass hat XD

[sacred verge]

How much does one need to spend for doot nowdays?

[tight basin]

Should mention it equips in the upper left slot of your second equipment page after

[twin osprey]

560

[near goblet]

Like 8 AAA games

[sacred verge]

560 dollars to guarantee?

[near goblet]

Yes

[vapid wraith]

Use the guide, upgrade towers to recommended levels (for damage, range, etc), get to wave 40ish using the setup the guide gives, follow this #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[ancient vine]

Guy to get the super chows thing working i need to kill the monster in my first BB or in the second one

[rigid cloak]

second

[ancient vine]

thanks

[final basalt]

Thanks!!

[hollow wasp]

i wonder how many development hours are in IdleOn

[fallen jacinth]

wait so this is the end right ?

[near goblet]

Just a few constellations

[fallen jacinth]

so what to do with other point

[modern plaza]

did u unlock everything?

[fallen jacinth]

nope

i just unlocked to reach the end

[split pendant]

you can save them or buy other stuff, either way once you unlock perm constellations it wont matter much

[modern plaza]

but perm doesn't go into Hydron

[near goblet]

Pretty sure it does?

[sacred verge]

It does

[modern plaza]

it does wtf

chad

[fallen jacinth]

idk how to get shinny pet lmao

[split pendant]

lvl 40 breeding

[modern plaza]

getting to shinies takes a bit overall

[deep lodge]

To get all hydron infinite you need lvl 5 for all infinite star sign shinies + 1 lvl 6

[fallen jacinth]

does this one affect my building exp ?

[deep lodge]

Should be pretty easy to test

[harsh star]

did someone know why +%0 stands if i have 33.6k build rate?

[hollow wasp]

gem store / reload map

[near goblet]

No

[stiff prairie]

All artifacts don't work when u get them, got to reload the map.

[fallen jacinth]

okay cool gonna equip it for my lab slave then

[modern plaza]

does that include the non-available ones?

[deep lodge]

Nope

[modern plaza]

do does the lab chip only work on the star signs aligned with basically?

[deep lodge]

Yes

[hollow wasp]

tomorrow morning i got my baer, i dont rly understand him i think, do all player equipped with the bear count as they are in lab, even when they aren't ?

[deep lodge]

Yes, but no lab xp

[hollow wasp]

aight, is good. so i get the 2x kills and the NBLB atleast

[hot bison]

So I play bubo afk most of the time bc I can’t active rn so what’s a better god the afk gains or the god that gives 2x more kills and more dmg

[harsh star]

fixed ty

[hollow wasp]

yw

[viral snow]

depends on what youre trying to achieve
lvlinng ? prob the afk gains one
Just pushing maps ? the 2x kill one

[hollow wasp]

i just unequipped my max 10h afk prayer as i closed the game already and head to bed, watch a movie and then sleep and it will probs turns out 12h before next check in. almost forgot 😄

[tranquil surge]

any prays i should have left on permanently?

prayers

[hollow wasp]

i have the -skill exp and +skill eff always on on every, idk if its smart tho

[tranquil surge]

i only have earlygame ones unlocked

yeah i like that one

its great when you dont have x1 efficiency

[hollow wasp]

bcs in general u want ur maestro to have highest skill level and with this prayer u prevent others from lvling up high

[tranquil surge]

thats a valid point

my poor maestro needs a workout on all the skills its starting to fall behind

[hollow wasp]

idk how smart it is tho, but once i equipped it im not unequipping since then lol

atleast u have maestro, i only have journeyman. he still needs like 10 more mining lvls and 25 chopping lvls aswell as 5 anvil lvls and 2 alchemy lvls

[tranquil surge]

random skills like worship and trapping etc

[vapid wraith]

Damn, I just now realized I should swap characters to upgrade bubbles in orange, green, & purple 💀

[tranquil surge]

i thought the bubo has way higher chance for bubble unlocks regardless of colour?>

[deep lodge]

upgrade, not unlock

[vapid wraith]

nah, upgrading individual bubbles, because of the class specific bubble which enhances the cost reduction bubbles.

[tranquil surge]

ohhh

damn cheers i didnt know that either

fml lol

[broken oar]

Hey can you guys help me increase my damage?

[hollow wasp]

what the hell is going on there

[tranquil surge]

mans a gene e

huhu

[vapid wraith]

chemical chain

[broken oar]

Só someone?

[tranquil surge]

whats this?

[deep lodge]

green stack, see lab bonus

[hollow wasp]

buy green gems and unlock all the pets

[deep lodge]

gives around 2% total damage for 10M stacks

[tranquil surge]

oh mushroom millions?

[vapid wraith]

"Unadulterated Banking Fury"

[broken oar]

I cant

[tranquil surge]

ohhh

[white badger]

Work on alchemy

[broken oar]

I am trying but its taking too long

[vapid wraith]

The answer is always alchemy, and waiting for artefacts to drop

[tranquil surge]

thats actually weird because i dont have a single green stack

[vocal warren]

Anyone know how I can reduce the risk of crashes on ES? Playing with autoloot on steam and it seems that everytime I leave the PC overnight to farm it crashes just as I am gone 😂

[tranquil surge]

it must count the first one as all my items adding to 10m

[fading dust]

Bigger material l bags

[broken oar]

I am 2 months focused in get the just 2 first bubbles tô level 100

[cyan marsh]

how do i do the rift with the 2 lava skulls? do i just save the one that keeps getting skulls on one spot of the map and kill the rest?

[vocal warren]

Biggest one the game has are equipped

[hollow wasp]

its this?

[tranquil surge]

@vocal warren u could also drop ur fps right down aswell idk how but im sure there will be away

[white badger]

Filter out drops you don’t want

[deep lodge]

Damn it

[vapid wraith]

If you aren't farming the material (like when farming for pop obols, cards, etc), just filter out the main drop, and you won't crash/slowdown.

[fading dust]

Damn how many items are dropped onscreen

[stiff prairie]

Meteor adds a lot of lag

[vocal warren]

The problem isn't even that the ground is cluttered

[vocal warren]

So should I remove it from the action bar?

[tranquil surge]

farm more deditated wam cards

[stiff prairie]

Try without it, see if it improves

If it doesn't, meteor wasn't the issue

[fading dust]

Time to upgrade that pc

[broken oar]

Almost 200

[modern plaza]

nah im just playing with 3 fps

[bleak gazelle]

have you tried it with 4 fps?

[jagged relic]

The key rate is sooo slow! In 2 hours I got 10 with my ES

[vapid wraith]

33% more fps bonus :O. Insane gains.

[deep lodge]

You're at moles or wurms?

[hollow wasp]

how do you farm boss keys?

[bleak gazelle]

[cyan marsh]

how do i do the rift with the 2 lava skulls? do i just save the one that keeps getting skulls on one spot of the map and kill the rest?????

[viral snow]

Really been stuck on gaming for a week now
No new multi and can only upgrade value 1-2 times a day

[modern plaza]

[fallow aurora]

what does scaling efficiency mean? (the blessing from nobisect god)

[near goblet]

Higher skill level = lower bonus

[modern plaza]

yeah im stuck af too... i really need the sailing artifacts.... and achievements are slow but those multiplier will help for much later stages. the goal is get to snail and gg

[fallow aurora]

wait what so the blessing is bad?

[broken grotto]

try weeks

[barren otter]

i just let it auto on my bubo and SB

[near goblet]

No

[modern plaza]

wait till you get 20 character slots 😄

[viral snow]

Didnt even unlock the log yet
Harvest gets me around 3Q

[bleak gazelle]

it reduces the amount of skill you need to get the next x2...x3 multiplier

[fallow aurora]

ohhhhh ty

[modern plaza]

i hope we get 24 character slots. 18 of the elite classes and 6 vman

[cyan marsh]

word, howw long it take?

[barren otter]

less than 10 mins

[cyan marsh]

O

[fallow aurora]

does it reduce the amount of skill efficiency needed for x1?

[bleak gazelle]

unsure, i would assume not though

[viral snow]

Pretty sure thats what it does

Atleast that was my understanding

[deep lodge]

I had seen someone mention one of these two buffs didn't work, anyone has info? (Voidinator)

[sick sentinel]

I think its just the top one isnt rly necessary with enough party starters

[paper sail]

Scaled efficiency has nothing to do with Prowess tiers. It gives efficiency only. The higher your skill's level, the less efficiency it gives. This is a "catch up" mechanic.

[proven roost]

wait so now its 4 years for a guaranteed chance of doot?

[modern plaza]

guaranteed

[near goblet]

Excluding rotations

[modern plaza]

now u have a new fomo

[fallow aurora]

ty

[modern plaza]

if you are halfway to doot and new rotation is coming out, gotta get it asap

[near goblet]

Will be fun when pity resets

[fallow aurora]

I thought its 3.8 years

[tropic kiln]

how do I get the recipe for the new weapons

merit shop ?

[near goblet]

Like you got it for any boss recipe before 💀

[tropic kiln]

there wasnt any boss weapons b4

[proven roost]

i feel like the pity system was just so it could come out on IOS

[near goblet]

Isnt it obvious though

[tropic kiln]

kinda

[deep lodge]

There are 9 merit purchases

[hollow wasp]

gnithy everyone

[thin rose]

Gnithy

[deep lodge]

gnithy to you too

(pronounced gnissy)

[narrow sable]

tbh sheepie and ram should be switched

in rarity

[abstract sapphire]

I have 1 empty poorly-upgraded boat. 8 of the (13?) islands unlocked. Is this guy worth it?

[deep lodge]

No

Cloud discovery is the worst trait

[cyan granite]

loving the update so far

[modern plaza]

at least i know we only need to spend $500 max.. thank god

[deep lodge]

It's worse than nothing, since it makes you think you have something

[modern plaza]

i got so many moltis too lol

[cyan granite]

these r all free rolls im broke, so here we are all 3 free rolls moltis not even a sheepie

[abstract sapphire]

aw sad. Does it not speed up discovering clouds? (I don't mind using him while searching for good Loot Value guys)

[narrow sable]

does follower matter
like i get the bonus regardless right

[bleak gazelle]

i've got two slimes and a bloque

[deep lodge]

It does, but speed will do the same thing. On top of that, there's no use discovering an island if you can't discover it quickly with just speed, since you won't be able to farm it afterwards

[abstract sapphire]

Since people are getting their 3rd pet. And I still have to wait 18 hours. I assume the 'weekly' timer start upon collecting the pet?

[deep lodge]

So that you have even less free rolls if you don't set a timer

[cyan granite]

ah yes just gotta wait a good ol 200 weeks for doot! Yeepee!

[narrow sable]

3 weeks down 197 to go (companion set 2 will come out and fuck this over for me)

[cyan granite]

companion set 8 will come out by the time we get the pity up lmfao

[narrow sable]

new giga brain idea:
once companion set 2 comes out
companion set 1 should be purchasable with blue gems

[hollow wasp]

seems like yep. mine is 17h from now too

[steady turret]

Man I'll never get this one done

[hollow wasp]

if lava pulls a bundle again im in hahaha

[deep lodge]

That's actually a really decent idea

[cyan granite]

that's smart but dont give him ideas to make it a bundle

[steady turret]

You just did

[hollow wasp]

i just hope that series1 is still there and the progress will not be deleted or smth so you "could" spend leftover green gems or smth on series1 pets

[tawny jetty]

dont worry the "real" community wouldnt suggest that

[modern plaza]

should be able to select which series you want to roll on

[narrow sable]

ive seen so many ideas on the discord and reddit
and they are all better than what we have LMAO

[cyan granite]

not like he reads any of his suggestions anyways lmfao

[deep lodge]

That's because they all make him less money

[radiant briar]

So, I wanted to get everyone's take on the no Prayer upgrade from gaming, is it actually worth it?

[tawny jetty]

its the problem a lot of sole developers end up with, is ego complex and their ideas are good and no one else understands....it happens to al ot of games

[sleek fulcrum]

Anyone know where to find the optimal constellation unlock image?

[tawny jetty]

i use it on some characters but some its not worth it

[steady turret]

How else would he pay people to advertise his game?

[narrow sable]

lava prolly gonna add a player referal system to get free companion spins

king doot gonna be an exlcusive to refering 200+ players going forward sorry

[tawny jetty]

the ability to rantionalize anything is a skill

[abstract sapphire]

Idleon being top seller on steam went wayyy down as well. \/ 58.

[radiant briar]

Been debating it since the the lack of curses seems nice but wasn't sure about the upside amount

Thanks

[tawny jetty]

at super high level curse it might make sense for specific actions

[thin rose]

Wasn't it top 10?

[tawny jetty]

lol no

[abstract sapphire]

Dwarf fortress has 2 (Well recently more) developers. They have great ideas that no one understands, and an ambition as high as the mount everest, because they'll still be working for decades after having spend decades working on it.

[abstract sapphire]

Top 3 in the Netherlands even
at some point

[tawny jetty]

yea but they didnt change after making money

[sleek fulcrum]

Anyone have the optimal star sign path image?

[radiant briar]

Samples come to mind. Blah I need to get off my ass and get back to worship/td I guess

[abstract sapphire]

Very True!

Dwarf fortress I'm actually surprised how long they kept the game Completely free. (AND STILL IS). The only thing that is paid is the more user friendly graphics + mouse control version.

[tawny jetty]

its insulting that youd compare lava to the Dwarf fortress team lol...different league

[tawny jetty]

Yeah, they stayed true to who they were, some crazy smart devs

[abstract sapphire]

Hehe, just naming a indie game that I like that did stuff well. Nothing more.

[tawny jetty]

oh i know, i just used it as an opprotunity to throw barbs

[tawny jetty]

I might hate the campion update, but ive still spent 80 bucks since its release...

[tough tusk]

why does idleonefficiency dashboard broken?

[tawny jetty]

I am hoping world 6 is so hard and brutal that it makes the game challenging

[abstract sapphire]

Champion update? (I haven't checked in with dwarf fortress last couple months)

[tawny jetty]

I was talking about Idelon

[abstract sapphire]

Also, btw. I am VERY behind on star signs. Are they worth to do? I'm kinda lazy with this stuff.

[tough tusk]

yes

[abstract sapphire]

Ah! Companion. Yea okay, now it makes more sense to me, haha

[deep lodge]

Just get them all to infinite star sign

[tawny jetty]

spelling is hard, english is my first language and im terrible at it

[abstract sapphire]

Infinite? They all activate?

[near goblet]

Technically you can have all infinite Star signs unlocked without doing a single constellation

[weak echo]

cullingo and the bulwart are nice, 15% more multikill, and the other 20% more dmg

[deep lodge]

Yes, through pet breeding shinies

[modern plaza]

can easily get 1.5x dmg from star signs

[abstract sapphire]

Oh, that would be helpful for speedrun-guy

[thin rose]

Really??

[abstract sapphire]

Ohh! Imma do that! Gonna keep ignoring star signs then

[thin rose]

I haven't done a single star sign, like ever

[modern plaza]

they are all at the end tho in hydron

[thin rose]

Effort

[weak echo]

15% more cards and 25% more constuct exp stars are nice too 😄 and 4% mob respawn

[thin rose]

If I didn't have to click every star sign I see and they passively opened when I did the task then I wouldn't mind doing them

[weak echo]

one for 20% more critters and 10 trap efficiency is really helping a lot xd

[tawny jetty]

i just remember when world 3 came out, and you get to a new mob and go fuck i cant tank these or i cant hit these....Let me go figure out how to improve...and just doesnt happen any more...

[deep lodge]

Tremor Wurms crystal still slap tho, especially with vman

[modern plaza]

nowadays everyone is just way over prepared with doot 😄

[tawny jetty]

yes that is fair

[tawdry steeple]

tbh I haven't noticed much of a difference in key drops between SB and ES, on wurms

[vocal flower]

I dint have doot and I 1 shit the w5 boss lol

[abstract sapphire]

If there was a P2W option for that 'poor progress' part, would you've paid for it then?

[vocal flower]

Shot**

[modern plaza]

did u rush w5? or were you in w5 for awhile?

[winged lance]

You are not alone 😂

[tawny jetty]

brah ive spent 10 grand on this game;...

[vocal flower]

Been in w5 since the day it came out haha

[thin rose]

Ayyy

[weak echo]

i am here xd

[modern plaza]

well then no shit u 1 shot it lol

[serene forum]

Best place to farm pens for dk?

[deep lodge]

Bloodbones

[vocal flower]

Bones are good

[tawny jetty]

once you hit 200% crit rate, shit really dies fast

[modern plaza]

i got great results on snelbies, but bones is the meta

[abstract sapphire]

I'm a pure F2P player, it's bad for me to pay too much on games. I hope your wallet is okay.

[modern plaza]

snelbs also gave dice obols if u need those

[tawny jetty]

its been over years, i spend more at starbucks lol

[abstract sapphire]

Haha, that's a good comparison though. Food/drink is expensive.

[weak echo]

it is kinda strange when ppl compare everything to starbucks, and i never was there lol xd

[modern plaza]

and consumables... can compare going out for drinks versus, drinking at home and playing games.

[lyric sequoia]

Ultra crit when

[cosmic tendon]

Moonshine and doot or patron and f2p

[tawny jetty]

bro you gotta tell me how you got over 240

[abstract sapphire]

Very true. Even today I spend an extra ~15 euro meal+drink for dinner only going out with my friends.

[thin rose]

Griffys crit guide

[slim maple]

whats the best class to farm keys for w5 boss

[cosmic tendon]

The es

[tawny jetty]

ok thats what im following, ill get there then 🙂

[weak echo]

is crit really that op?

[thin rose]

Insanely

[tawny jetty]

Yeah, i mean, i spend 10k on a mountain bike...got a few of those...like whats 100 bucks here or there on a game i spend a lot of timeon...thats how i rationalize it...

[thin rose]

I feel ya

[modern plaza]

it breaks the game later on... crit will cause poison to hit as much damage as your characters auto-attack

[tawny jetty]

Now i did not enjoy spending 240 dollars to get doot on day one...but i dont regret it lol

[thin rose]

honestly

[tawny jetty]

Crit is probably the most undervalued most over powered thing int ehg ame

[modern plaza]

GZ!!!

[thin rose]

240 isn't bad at all

[lyric sequoia]

mutton, beholder statues

[weak echo]

this "later on" is around which lvl? xd

[dry dome]

which class should i use for rift 2?

[modern plaza]

that's exactly the way too see it. this is my only game. i'll spend 1k at minimum on my gaming per year

[cosmic tendon]

Es

[serene forum]

So i should definitely farm bloodbones over w4 or w5 crystal chance?

[lyric sequoia]

If you're farming statues you wouldn't be in world 5 to start with

[modern plaza]

get all the cards you need to farm crystals/DR effectively first

[tawny jetty]

Ive been playing since w3 release, and every time i pop in over here i feel like a noob and learn a lot...thats why i like this game

[lyric sequoia]

1-3 are the majority, 4/5 statues are pretty bad

[modern plaza]

theres only 2 crystal spawn cards right? poop and genie?

[thin rose]

Damage and sailing statue?

[serene forum]

I have them already

[lyric sequoia]

Damage statue is additive with an awful lot of other stuff, so not great

And w4/5 statue drop rate is god awful

[modern plaza]

and u have full obols?

[thin rose]

That is true

[tawny jetty]

even with all the pets it not great

[abstract sapphire]

Both hobbies you enjoy spending time on. Seems fair, yea. I too spend (not that much), but a decent amount on my hobbies.

Though in this case, I wouldn't get a lot of extra value spending on game to progress, I play Idleon casually. No need to go fast, as long as I can see numbers go higher without spending money.

[lyric sequoia]

When you can get 100k feasty statues easily in the same timespan as maybe 10k w4/5 statues, you know it's bad

[tawny jetty]

Once you spend a little bit of money...its addictive....its like...Ill never pay for sex...cause i know once i do...it would be a spiral downwards....

[modern plaza]

i.e. getting married

[tawny jetty]

fk, i do pay for sex...god damnit...

[lyric sequoia]

God no it isn't. You literally need food and water in order to be alive

[deep lodge]

Watch me

[serene forum]

Yea

[modern plaza]

and then kids, and shit buying hosue and kids hobbies... spiraling out of control

[tawny jetty]

yea but i have disopsable income, and if i had noticed 10k i wouldnt of spent it lol

[lyric sequoia]

Food and drink follows a natural supply and demand system, that's not game MTX

[tawny jetty]

yep, i got 2 kids too lol, im 37...

[cosmic tendon]

Just make sure u tell the wife the money went to buying a cartoon mummy in ur idle game

[modern plaza]

yeah im planning to be in that same position when im 37 kek... fuck me

[serene forum]

Full obels and level 93 beholder already. Im at 39% increase and at 151% crit chance but i need 51 more percent

[modern plaza]

sorry kids, no lunch today, daddy needs to spend some money on himself

[tawny jetty]

my wife has a 90k amg suv...she doesnt care what i do with our money

[serene forum]

Its about 3k beholder per level up so i wanted to know if irs worth it to do w3 bloodbones

[modern plaza]

bro u're juiced, u got all the lab chips too right?

[serene forum]

My other stats are lacking like the power one, battleaxe

[lyric sequoia]

I'm not about to tell you how to spend your own money, but surely you see the issue in a system that very purposely is designed to feel like you're not spending much when in reality you are

[deep lodge]

Do you have vman? he boost statues by more than 100%

[tawny jetty]

OH i know, i hadnt added how much i had spent until pets....I had no idea i had spent 9200 dollars...i figured it was 2-3k

[lyric sequoia]

3k beholder statues is like 5-10mins of DK, if that

[modern plaza]

oh wow on idleon???

[robust pendant]

does vman double loot skill work on bosses?

[tawny jetty]

sadly...yes...and there are other games i buy cosmetics on too lol

[modern plaza]

just idleon 9200?

[tawny jetty]

yes,..

[modern plaza]

wow so u bought card packs and consumables?

[tawny jetty]

This is why you go to college

[cosmic tendon]

I think lava makes more money than u thought

[tawny jetty]

Lava made 100k by time lunch came out on pet release day

[lyric sequoia]

Not even sure where you can spend 10k on this game on prior to pet gacha, there can't be that much in the gem shop before you've bought all the single use stuff

[modern plaza]

don't worry i spend 1k/mo on a game for like 16months.... will never make that mistake again until inflation gets too high

[bold quiver]

only if he kept buying gem packs to gamble?

[tawny jetty]

i spent 5k on clash of clans in 2015 in like 3 months then never played agian

[lyric sequoia]

"prior to pet gacha"

[bold quiver]

even gacha pet, there is a ceiling

[prisma drift]

He’s bought chips every week since they released lol

[tawny jetty]

i did

i only spent 240 on pet gatcha

[lyric sequoia]

Well no, there factually is not a ceiling to pet gacha

[cosmic tendon]

Clear gem store since release

[tawny jetty]

i also have 3 red hats....

[bold quiver]

pet gacha is cheap, contrary to whta most people think

[tawny jetty]

that i bought all those balls

that was 200 bucks a hat

[lyric sequoia]

There is now a ceiling to doot, that doesn't stop the other pets being potentially unobtainable

[prisma drift]

Cheap tbh

I’ve seen people use more balls and not get red hat lol

[tawny jetty]

well one hat was 500, one was 50 dollars, and one was 190...so i was rounding

[lyric sequoia]

You can never reach a 100% chance to get rift slug no matter how much you spend, for example

[bold quiver]

for example: If someone doesnt wanna keep doing boss runs for gems, u'd have to spend a few hundreds everyweek to sustain the gem weekly buy

[tawny jetty]

i ahve 4 rift slugs

fucking stupid

[prisma drift]

I already have one but can I have another?

[bold quiver]

add that to a year or 2 of gameplay, it can get pretty expensive

[lyric sequoia]

Same was true for doot until this $500 pity timer that is only there so he can get the update on iOS

[modern plaza]

yeah i think on raids i did like 600 in 2 weeks and dropped it asap lol...

[tawny jetty]

im hoping trading is favorable

[tawny jetty]

yeah, i spent a few grand on warframe,

[bold quiver]

cosmetics is a sink hole, spent quite a change on league over the years

[modern plaza]

yeah.... its ok tho, we learning. and now u 3 years in on idleon and only 3k/yr... that's really good tbh

[near goblet]

Love how both w3-4 and w5 chats are just discussions of other games

[tawny jetty]

i easily spent a grand on heros of the storm and that game was sub par

[bold quiver]

ohhhhhhh that game as fun , i enjoyed it for a ferw months

[serene forum]

Is the w3 farm for pens xylobone or bloodbone

[deep lodge]

Me waiting for 75% off platinum and never buying anything since i'm unlucky

[tawny jetty]

i dropped 2500 on Ultima Online Outlands in 3 months earlier this year...idk if im learning or not

[modern plaza]

i feel like u need to spend between 100-1k to get a decent experience in any game

[near goblet]

Activision and its lovely choices..

[tawny jetty]

Right!

[lyric sequoia]

You're not gonna farm a colo only mob for pens, if that's what you mean 😛

[modern plaza]

just handoff those accounts to the kids

[tawny jetty]

my kids are 3 and 6 they play minecraft its free

well no, its not free we have 3 private servers...but i mean its pretty free

[modern plaza]

haha

[near goblet]

Man your game choices.. are rather interesting

[deep lodge]

Just don't put them on Hypixel if they have the same habits as you lol

[tawny jetty]

my daughter probably asks for roblox every few days

[near goblet]

Hypixel literally go to bedwars lobby 1 and you get free rank

[tawny jetty]

i didnt know what what hypixel was until you showed me...lol

[modern plaza]

i spent 13k on a gacha, it changed and spent another 3k to see if i liked the changes... nope, rip. hopefully idleon doesn't go from full idle to only active to removing auto

[serene forum]

Ome more question. Is w5 statues worth the farm over bones? Getting crit to 200% seems more worth it over battleaxe or w5 golden foods atm right?

[bold quiver]

crit 200% is more important

[modern plaza]

if idleon removes auto, im out haha

[near goblet]

ActiveOn 3D when?

[bold quiver]

i love gacha!

[modern plaza]

the gacha in my other game was like 800$ per maxed character... so yeah it was good sink

doot is such a great deal

[bold quiver]

kinda cheap

[near goblet]

Install 12 gacha games at once, get burntout, dont go back (||Spoiler: you Will||), your health will improve!

[bold quiver]

indeed, considering what it gives, its a decent deal

[bold quiver]

thats why i run everyday, need to mantain my mental health to play more gacha and survive work

[prisma drift]

The only reason I run is to get away from my problems

[modern plaza]

this weekend i'll be focusing on getting all mob cards to gold i guess... just to have a decent basis... still need to do skilling cards tho 😦

[near goblet]

What game was that?

[modern plaza]

yeah i workout so much everyday too so it keeps me alpha af at work

[lyric sequoia]

You're not gonna farm w5 specifically for the statues

[modern plaza]

Evertale... they were full Manual actual thinking to Full Auto, no thinking

[near goblet]

Evertale is also another fan service game

[lyric sequoia]

Waow 1/8th of the way to having enough keys to do all the kattle achievements

[modern plaza]

dont do it until you get all the quests done on every character

[modern plaza]

🥹

[lyric sequoia]

The quests don't mean much

And farming the quest anyway on 8 characters

[modern plaza]

except it gives you BIS trophy in the game

[lyric sequoia]

Yeah you're not gonna get that trophy on all characters before doing the gear merits

[modern plaza]

the thing is, if it drops on any character

you better have the quest on that character

[lyric sequoia]

Nightmare kattle is only the last 3 achievements anyway

[robust pendant]

did I fuck myself out of buying all the gear recipes by spending w5 merit points maxing out the tab 4 talent points

[lyric sequoia]

And you only have to do it once on each character at the very end to be done

[modern plaza]

might be the only time you get the cape drop

[lyric sequoia]

It wont be

[modern plaza]

that’s a strong word lol

[deep lodge]

Should definitely be maxable, but you'll have to get many more merits i'd say... Yikes

[cosmic tendon]

The Mattel tasks will cover a decent amount

[deep lodge]

At the same time, boss merits probably cover most of the gear

[robust pendant]

before the update it said there'd only be 4 or 5 recipes

[lyric sequoia]

You need 18 merit points for them all

[glad mountain]

the new armor is pretty bad for active isnt it?

[lyric sequoia]

You'll get 10 through the achievements, so only need 8 more

[cosmic tendon]

Just get big nugget?

There’s 2 easy ones

[runic imp]

Is that a new bundle cape or a boss drop? In announcements

[cosmic tendon]

Idk announcement but definitely boss related

[lyric sequoia]

Though I just did the counting and might be moderately fucked myself, need to max out every merit except the achievement 1... hmm

[cosmic tendon]

Wouldn’t u be in the exact same situation?

That’s about as difficult as possible

[deep lodge]

So many doots

[deep lodge]

Hey it's @dapper prism !

[modern plaza]

it's basically free now 😄

[lyric sequoia]

Doable without the BS nugget merit I think

[cosmic tendon]

Small stepping stone towards being mandatory for progression pace

All are doable with doot

[tawny jetty]

gotta 5 star that bitch

[cosmic tendon]

Does anyone have any advice on why my dk is worse than my es for statues and obols

[opaque sun]

bad orb duration maybe

Or low crystal chance

[cosmic tendon]

Crystal chance around the same

[opaque sun]

No as in in general

If say you have 1 on 200 crystal chance, your statue rate is going to be bad

[cosmic tendon]

So dk isn’t superior for crystal farming until I can improve crystal chance?

I’m at around 90

[opaque sun]

While ES is not affected by crystal as much

[cosmic tendon]

No Choco chip

[opaque sun]

DK is superior, just your general crystal chance is too low

and lack of choco chip is hurting

[cosmic tendon]

But my es is getting more obols, pens, and statues because it significantly kills more mobs per hour

[opaque sun]

You need to understand that dk gets statues because orb applies dr bonus on crystals, while ES only applies bonus on mob only

So basically you are getting most of your statues from the rare drop table of mob due to having a bad crystal rate

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah the total number of crystals killed seems to overtake the orb bonus

[opaque sun]

Your current drops are mostly from the mob itself, you need a better crystal rate to make your DK shine

[cosmic tendon]

Idk about that

[opaque sun]

like 1 in 90 is low, and no choco chip is obviously why “my DK isnt getting statues”

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah but I think it’s still dropping from the crystals I do get

[glad mountain]

which class farms keys the quickest?

[cosmic tendon]

Es

[glad mountain]

big margin?

[opaque sun]

you also get stuff from mobs too as they too have rare drop tables

[cosmic tendon]

So dk isn’t really superior for rare drops unless I have card doublers and choco chip?

I know that but my es must kill at least 200 crystals an hour and I’m not getting 1000s of statues per hour

Or I should say of each statue

[opaque sun]

Dk benefits from boosting crystal drops, but if you are killing less crystals, obviously you are applying the dk bonus less times

[cosmic tendon]

I know but ur missing the question

[opaque sun]

While ES mainly focuses on the mob drop itself, so is less affected by you fighting less crystals

[cosmic tendon]

I’m not saying why aren’t I getting 1000s of each statue per hour

I’m asking why my dk is so much worse than es

At getting the drops in the rare bag

[solid frost]

yep, you might miss out few weapons and pendent.

[cosmic tendon]

And I think the answer I’m getting if I’m understanding you correctly is that there is a crystal chance barrier which u need to break for dk to be useful at all

Aside from mini bosses

Because I haven’t heard that before and basically only have 5*, choco chip, and card doublers left for major improvement

[lyric sequoia]

The DR boost for ES only applies to portal mobs also, whereas DK's DR boost applies to all kills

[tawdry steeple]

because you're killing more mobs with es, the ability respawns mobs consistantly where as dk doesn't respawn that often

[opaque sun]

say if you killing 1000 mobs and 1 crystal, and compare to a better you that kills 1000 mobs and 500 crystals. The former one one dk will get worse results than es., but latter one dk will get better results

[cosmic tendon]

That’s what I’m saying is that true that dk is only for mini bosses unless you get card doublers, choco chip, and 5* the crystal cards

[opaque sun]

1 in 50 ish and chocochip is like the requirement

[obtuse night]

what kinda damage do you need on voidwalker to beat nightmare kattlekruk