lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[velvet mural]

Anyone have stats on kruk armor?

[lean thistle]

If u spend 1000$ on a doot ur prob sweaty or pay for progression

[near goblet]

how is it QoL, its a literal buff

[lunar edge]

So with this patch, I lost my companions. Lots of other reports in bugs. Is there a fix?

[lean thistle]

Its a sp game who cares 😂

[pliant arch]

i don't understand, he's talking like he's still in w3 or sth.

[near goblet]

log on from steam, that seems to fix it

[lean thistle]

Lol stay dootless

[opaque sun]

Omni basically is like you use fertilizer/bottled wind/killroy bonus every time you claim anyone

[velvet mural]

Thanks

[near goblet]

its kinda hot when i log in and I see a +20h refinery progression

[opaque sun]

Omni proccing cooking isnt too bad when cook jewel is connected with doot

[edgy osprey]

• try to push first char to big moles
• gets only few kills
• wonders why
• remembers that Nobisect exists
• facepalm

[chrome tiger]

oh shit i got a nug upgrade and didn't even notice

[pastel bramble]

there goes my w5 greenstacks again

[pliant arch]

My nug is still at 3k for month

[visual lava]

proceeds to spend money on doot

[edgy osprey]

No! Bad player!

[visual lava]

[edgy osprey]

I still had my two unlinks, so...

[visual lava]

Back in my day...

[warped grail]

how you got that staff? is beautiful

[pastel bramble]

its task 8

kill nightmare kruk, so once u have enough keys u can do it

[tacit tulip]

my problems gonna be affording the merits

[nova heath]

Whats recommended dmg to challenge kattlekruk, just reached moles

[visual lava]

1

[pastel bramble]

i saved up a bunch beforehand luckily 😄

[visual lava]

the boss doesnt do anything

[pastel bramble]

ive killed the chaotic version on maestro with 1bn damage, so 1bn will get u chaotic atleast

[green stone]

nightmare has 1q hp, I wasted 70 keys to find that out 🙂

[nova heath]

. _. I just reached there (25-50 mil)

[pastel bramble]

1Q 👀

[green stone]

on the plus side it's impossible to lose with auto on as bubo, as long as you stand right next to him all the mobs die

[pastel bramble]

i think only my wizard can beat it then 😂

[green stone]

I have 1.5b on my bubo and I gave up after 20 mins when he was still at 95% hp lol

[tawdry epoch]

Anyone got a weird glitch were mobs didnt count in quest i was active afk all night at mole with ES only did 200k kill. But on card i did arpund 40 mil kills

[deep lodge]

Came back excited to see news, and the update looks great, but... really? That's how he addresses the whole companion incident?

[signal osprey]

Multikill isn't counted for quests while active for some reason

[green stone]

he won't address it, just don't spend any more money on the game, that's all u can do

[sand lagoon]

how u getting so many boss keys?

[near goblet]

He satisfied his 'true community'

[green stone]

I had a character afk for a few days at moles and came back to almost 200 keys

[tawdry epoch]

Damn ill remove rucksack and complet it afk than thanks

[deep lodge]

Once he purged the OG that carried his game through guide and community support, yeah... Only the true community is left

[deep lodge]

Looks like the plan... I was hoping he'd change my mind

[visual lava]

ah yes the money community

[severe maple]

you mean only the people who don't care if their time is wasted remains

[hollow wasp]

found this on reddit. lol

[zinc torrent]

Friend sent me this

[warped grail]

is sad, sometimes i have buy packs sometimes, but not anymore

[near goblet]

feels like chated in gems

[zinc torrent]

Maybe

[hollow wasp]

lol

[deep lodge]

I had bought all the packs, and some more. No more.

[hollow wasp]

i spent 125$ in this game this month. f2p xd

[vapid wraith]

Should I put a specific main stat on these btw, or does it not matter?

[deep lodge]

How much do 200 pulls even cost?

[zinc torrent]

Barely matters

[warped grail]

it doesnt matter i think?

[zinc torrent]

Slightly more eff like barely even any

[vapid wraith]

If I did, luck right?

[near goblet]

#1124636900062408744 message

[vapid wraith]

Or wis?

[zinc torrent]

You wont use it as main ring so doesnt matter what you do

[red slate]

should I keep kitsune stone active all the time until I unlock the last plant?

[olive dagger]

Any

[zinc torrent]

Just wis yeah or maybe mystery stone works for more misc stats i think? It could turn to less too if it does

[olive dagger]

Finally

No slow mode chat

[zinc torrent]

Always active if you look every 2 hrs

[olive dagger]

I need moreeeeee dmg

[zinc torrent]

Mostly just always active

[warped grail]

4 years...riiiight...

[olive dagger]

Give me more dmg

[zinc torrent]

Always good because way more chance at higher evos

[burnt oriole]

J

[zinc torrent]

For more multiplier :3

[deep lodge]

Did he stream when he put the update out?

[zinc torrent]

He wouldve cried from the chat complaining about gacha update :)

And banned everyone w

[dire flower]

Nah

He must banned it at the start of stream

[deep oxide]

Why complain? It's been limited to I believe I saw $500 posted somewhere to get doot. That's totally fair and realistic.

[zinc torrent]

Right

But its all fine he made sure we wouldnf forget about all the previous completely free updates!!!

We should get on our knees and be grateful

[dire flower]

Gimme that fair money please

[deep oxide]

True and he'll be putting out alot more free updates til the next pet cycle where the best pet is another $500

[zinc torrent]

He will make sure to tell us about free updates ong

Completely free no p2w 5th uldate in row ongong

Update*

[sharp wind]

better get normal crystal steak first or get eldritch fury?

[bright current]

Yes

[autumn rivet]

can you reroll hyper obols

and if so is it actually worth doing

[umbral tapir]

Ok, I'm a bit of a hoarder and my bank is full. I'm guessing I can ditch all of these?

[zinc torrent]

Ye

[hollow wasp]

do anyone wanna help me finding what to do active rn? xd 8 chars waiting for divinity points for baer and it doesnt seem to make sense pushing w5 with my es

[zinc torrent]

+1 misc stat

[autumn rivet]

ty

[muted hill]

What's the best boss drop for warrior

[opaque sun]

use ES to farm alchemy bubbles or vials

you know you can always go back a world to work on upgrades

[sly plank]

my pets disappeared just now, what happened?

rip my doot

[proper canyon]

died

sorry for your loss

[viral snow]

mobile bug
Login from steam

[sly plank]

wtf

[fallen jacinth]

wait so this start from the day it change and doesn't apply for the old treat ?

[viral snow]

it does apply for previous rolls

[rose fulcrum]

Is mob respawn keychain in limited shop worth ?

[cosmic tendon]

Farm card cards. Crystal cards. Drop obols. Vman. Start cleaning up account loose ends. Skilling, gear. Prepping bubo and dk

[fallen jacinth]

oh okay

[grand wind]

Im drop this items

[vocal ibex]

Is trading available now for pets?

[vocal glade]

Can anyone spare a few minutes to take a look at my Bubo/ES damage? My ES is almost in full Chiz set I just can't seem to push my damage much more at all and stuck at 20m, I don't really know if there's something major I'm missing or if the gains are just gonna be really small now https://pawncraft.idleonefficiency.com/

[grand wind]

Nop

[vocal ibex]

K

[cosmic tendon]

Alch very weak

[vocal glade]

Yeah I feel like I'm just aimlessly upgrading bubbles, any you can recommend that I focus on?

[cosmic tendon]

Skilling bubbles including big bubbles

But the first two of each of the first 3 cauldrons

Should be at 100 each without too much material difficulty

Pump some points into the newest yellow bubble and get all ur meals to lvl 11

[chrome tiger]

dk or es better for key farming

[near goblet]

es

[vocal glade]

Ok thank you for the help 🙂 will work on Alch for a while

[cosmic tendon]

U don’t need to lvl ur sigils before moving to the next. Lvling sigils is for much later

[vocal glade]

Yeah I have stopped sigils for now, trying to max my cauldron boosts at the moment

[cosmic tendon]

U could’ve unlocked like 10 sigils for the amount u put into the first one. Don’t overfocus sigils to the detriment of ur overall alch but 1 hour of cauldron speed sacrifice for +10 stat is worth it

I think ur missing a lot of easy stamps

[vocal glade]

Yeah there are a few damage % stamps I need, working on the steve stamp quest at the moment

[night nymph]

are the new Kruk armor pieces better even without the % stat up ?

[lyric sequoia]

200 pullls for doot, that's his fix?

[cosmic tendon]

Clean up ur slab

[signal osprey]

Yeah he fixed the problem of iOS not wanting his gambling

[viral snow]

only 500 bucks

[cosmic tendon]

Clean up slab should be very easy dmg

[lyric sequoia]

I don't know whether to be glad or sad that what I assumed his response would be is his actual response

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/stefan-salvatore-the-vampire-diaries-tvd-wipe-mouth-activates-no-gag-reflex-gif-17732809

[sterile sundial]

Not a political streamer, doesn’t need to respond

[loud flower]

Anyone have screenshots of the new weapons?

[steady turret]

Hotair posted earlier

[near goblet]

hm..

[loud flower]

Ty

[lunar siren]

Is anyone else's game freezing a lot more now? Before this last patch i don't think my game ever froze once and now it's freezing constantly while fighting.

[sterile sundial]

Soy Political Developers:

“we’re sorry we released this”
fixes it
community gives “praise” whatever that means
promises to do better
Chad Game developer
“I’m making a fun game”
adds gambling
it’s fine because the developer isn’t political
“probably just haters anyway”
continues like nothing happened

[hollow wasp]

idk if im ready for one of this

[cosmic tendon]

What why

[hollow wasp]

idk

[cosmic tendon]

U just active snelbie and gigafrog

[hollow wasp]

what is snelbie

[cosmic tendon]

Last w2 mob

[hollow wasp]

i go farm there? i got x3 drop rarity

[past bane]

Oh God it's safe here. I'm never going to general chat again lol.

[cosmic tendon]

This is what increases ur dr

[hollow wasp]

cards there? or what

[cosmic tendon]

Obols

[hollow wasp]

does it make sense starting there with 3x dr with my es?

[cosmic tendon]

But ur looking for card cards off them and get a couple books as consolation

[iron nymph]

How do you guys manage your snail? I'm at lvl 5 now

[cosmic tendon]

Yes they’re card cards

U get card cards

[hollow wasp]

what are card cards

[cosmic tendon]

Which lets u get crystal cards and drop cards

[hollow wasp]

why u say card 2 times

[cosmic tendon]

And farm up any more cards u need

Just look at gigfrog or snelbie

[hollow wasp]

wich card is it?

[iron nymph]

card drop rate cards are card cards

[cosmic tendon]

They’re cards that increase card drop

Fourth last on there

But gigafrog is the same

[placid mural]

I freaking swear reading this discord, a lot of you would spit at a check for $1000 just because some other people are millionares

[viral snow]

you can check here
https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/card-search

[hollow wasp]

and i want to farm alot of these to be able to drop more cards

lemme unlock this area on my ES

[cosmic tendon]

Yes u need to at some point

[hollow wasp]

1in6h is a good droprate?

[cosmic tendon]

I’m sure u have lots of other loose ends to work on though

[hollow wasp]

thats for moonmoons atleast, i can imagine its around the same at the snelbies

[cosmic tendon]

No it’s not good that’s why u need card cards

[hollow wasp]

let me check if i have any

i just want all of these, no?

[cosmic tendon]

There’s a stamp and constellation check the search website for other card drop sources

[tacit tulip]

decided to grind my nm bosses to 3* then cardify them

Nice gains, but still rough

[cosmic tendon]

Well u can’t make it be an event and dungeon drop is separate

And starches will take longer to farm unless ur low tier or close to a tier

[viral snow]

that 2 star kattle looks lonely

[tacit tulip]

yeah just farming up some keys now

[hollow wasp]

when i equip 22% card drop chance, the afk info still saying card odds 1 in 6hour

[tacit tulip]

working on the task first

[tacit tulip]

CDR is calculated on map entry, enter after equipping it

[cosmic tendon]

It’s just rounding it works

[tacit tulip]

but also it could just be rounding, ye

[cosmic tendon]

Probably that actually it should take 1hr off

[hollow wasp]

ok is 1 in 5 hours

but is it even worth active farming these card cards? xd

[cosmic tendon]

Up to u

I think I’ve explained it well enough

[hollow wasp]

thats the thing, idk what i should do. i still need like 15 more hours till i get baer from divinity. so 8 chars are locked.

[tacit tulip]

Card rate cards are definitely a good thing to farm early

[cosmic tendon]

It’s a reasonable goal to start with if ur in w5. Without ur ie and blasting you with 100s of small things u can figure out

[tacit tulip]

the faster you get them, the faster you get the rest of the cards

[cosmic tendon]

And as a perk you’ll probably add a decent bit to ur dr doing snelbie and gigafrog

[tacit tulip]

Fwiw drop rate also impacts card rate (multiplies) but doesn't show up on the afk stats. If you have a card rate of 1/5 hours, and 5 drop rate, you'll get about 1 an hour

[hollow wasp]

i go gigafrogs first. i need the mob drops anyway

[cosmic tendon]

Getting good dr, crystal chance, and dr are all essential. Slow at the start

[cosmic tendon]

But ur not really able to do a lot of things until u get them done

[hollow wasp]

at gigas

[tacit tulip]

which character you using at frogs btw

[cosmic tendon]

Make sure u look at other card drop sources

[hollow wasp]

ES. my only high character i have

[tacit tulip]

a big factor of afk stats is monster total and respawn speed, ES negates those factors

[cosmic tendon]

Ur active

[tacit tulip]

you'll get cards a lot quicker than you think

Frogs is a terrible map for afk but ES will still blast through the cards

[hollow wasp]

aight ill check.

is 3 to lvl up. ill do it 10mins and see if i drop any

[cosmic tendon]

U probably have other active goals that are quick and important but I think that’s a good spot if u leave ur game open

[hollow wasp]

i just start playing dave the diver meanwhile

[fallen jacinth]

wait why it yellow

[clever juniper]

Anyone know if the free pet rolls are bugged for Android?

[mortal ravine]

lol i tried the idle with bill brr for 21 hours and 51 mins twice now and it doesnt proc

[cosmic tendon]

Multiplying 6x

[mortal ravine]

what could i be doing wrong

[fallen jacinth]

so purple is x4 ?

i thought purple was x6

[cosmic tendon]

Oh yeah purple is 6

[tacit tulip]

the 3d printer screen is visually buggy sometimes, it's usually giving you the correct amount even if the icon isn't playing ball

[fallen jacinth]

so yellow is x12 ?

[cosmic tendon]

Do u have doot?

[fallen jacinth]

no

[fallow aurora]

what does upgrading boat loot do in sailing?

[tacit tulip]

bear is 2x, and blue
Harriep is 3x, and yellow

both together is 6x, and purple

[gentle furnace]

You get more loot from chest found

[tacit tulip]

increases the treasure you get when opening a chest

[cosmic tendon]

10 hr prayer?

[fallow aurora]

ty

[fallen jacinth]

my other es also have bear + harriep

but it's only purple

[cosmic tendon]

Purple is better

[tacit tulip]

ye, purple is what you want

[cosmic tendon]

The yellow is the bugged one or they’re not properly linked to lab

[opaque sun]

printer colors are all messed up now

[steady turret]

A bit

[opaque sun]

like when i remove the lab node, it displays blue text which originally means 2x (lab)

[hollow wasp]

btw, as ES is it correct i max the base dmg thing?

[chrome tiger]

i need merit shop points so bad now

[opaque sun]

base damage of what? The name i guess bubble?

[hollow wasp]

does this refresh whenever u get a card or do you need to switch map / gem shop ?

[hollow wasp]

base dmg from post office. top left. warrior smth

[zinc torrent]

waiting on BB to clear W5 stages ...

[opaque sun]

Damage from po box hardly does anything for damage

But its still a good box to raise for other reasons

[hollow wasp]

or better to do all in mana for ES?

[opaque sun]

cooldown is a good box too

[hollow wasp]

im not so far in the game yet. i just unlcoked w2 15 days ago

[opaque sun]

But you dont need mana box for mana

[placid mural]

lawl, getting like 40b exp per crystal with an orb level 600

[hollow wasp]

cant even see cooldown box

[opaque sun]

You only need to do po order 1

[tacit tulip]

it's the mana box

third upgrade is skill cooldown

[opaque sun]

Mana box is cooldown

[hollow wasp]

ohh okay.

[hollow wasp]

i could reskill, rn i did all my points in base damage

[tacit tulip]

honestly it'd be a waste of gems

[opaque sun]

Its faster to just get more pens than to respec box

[tacit tulip]

there's a lot of sources of boxes these days you'll get plenty once you start to focus them

[hollow wasp]

i have some pens

[lost depot]

afaik it's best to max the 1st box first, then your skilling box

so for ES that would be chopping

[opaque sun]

you can get more pens

[hollow wasp]

where do we find them again?

[tacit tulip]

generally, crystal mobs

[hollow wasp]

ehh like where do we find how many we have

[opaque sun]

Like you should just aim to max all boxes

[hollow wasp]

i have 18

wait - can i instantly get a new order when i use these? could i lets say get +18 more boxes now?

i was thinking its a reroll

[young blade]

is snail worth saving for a few days?

[lost depot]

You won't get many pens until you have a high level Bubo / ES / DK, I wouldn't worry about it too much if you're only in W2

[hollow wasp]

im in w5 sir.

[opaque sun]

Yes you can do more orders with pens

That the whole purpose

[hollow wasp]

i was thinking pen is for "meh this order sucks i dont want to lose my streak so heres a refresh"

[tacit tulip]

yep, it's a common thing people don't think of. You can immediately reset an order instead of rerolling one you can't do

[modern plaza]

only u will know the answer

[hollow wasp]

so i could get +18 points now if i want with these pens

[tacit tulip]

probably slightly more, you get bonuses for order streaks

[modern plaza]

yes

[hollow wasp]

these 15 days got me 2x a streak thing

[opaque sun]

po box used to be like a once a day thing 3 years ago, but now its a spam the pens content

[young blade]

what?

[modern plaza]

u’ll get streaks with pens too

[hollow wasp]

i see, thanks

[green eagle]

is new respawn chain better than afk % chains?

[rustic garnet]

that's nothing to sneeze at!

[green eagle]

or is it something to use and snapshot?

[opaque sun]

generally advised to raise crystal chance box so that you can get more pens from active

[modern plaza]

maxing out the entire PO is gonna be nice addition to all characters progression haha

[lost depot]

I'm assuming this +drop% is additive?

[rustic garnet]

but very low total dps change!

the armor bonuses on kattle are... meh

[modern plaza]

i just want 1 haha

[hollow wasp]

i work on it later. but can you help me.

3 more cards to lvl up - does it refresh automaticly whenver i drop a card? like 2 more cards ...

also i have 3600k/h they say card odds 1 in 10hr so its around 36k. active i kill like 3k/10mins, so its like 2hours every card in average? or isnt this how its working?

[rustic garnet]

Take my energy :p

I'll leave one on the ground in w1

[opaque sun]

drop rate is additive, but gets boosted by SB’s plunder talent

[rustic garnet]

not that you can have it, as it's not tradeable, but you can feel it's pressence

[tacit tulip]

there's a lot of maths do it - multikill doesn't impact drop rate. If you were to afk 10 hours the kills you got then would get an average of 1 card

[hollow wasp]

ok and i see it refreshes, i just dropped an card. but on average its like every 2h for a card for me i guess?

[modern plaza]

haha

[tacit tulip]

afk is -considerably- weaker than active though

[rustic garnet]

out of 4 scarfs

2 of them were peffect statted

[opaque sun]

unless you got 300 afk gain comparing to active bb i guess

[placid mural]

in exp and drop gain, but not for Kills per hour for quests

[modern plaza]

but do u have all of kruks gear perfect statted yet 😅

[tacit tulip]

Yeah but that's not really relevant to the conversation, which is card drops lol

[rustic garnet]

nah, it's a very small boost tbh

[placid mural]

very true

[rustic garnet]

we're talking 3% damage increase

[hollow wasp]

ok actually card farming active isnt to bad- 20mins 2 cards

[rustic garnet]

for 4 slots

so... at my level, each successfull armor upgrade is .75% total damage

[modern plaza]

you could get 32 more weapon power, so maybe juts like 20% dmg??

[rustic garnet]

it's about .75% per

but that includes the increased main stat too

[modern plaza]

true

[rustic garnet]

but yeah, if you 'max out all your gear' like this, it's at least 20% damage increase (At my level)

I imagine DR kicks in for higher gear levels and people with more sources/bubbles of weapon power

[young blade]

does upgrading pong do something or is the description real=?

[rustic garnet]

probably real

[modern plaza]

shit so to farm best mob drop is to kills moles in dk for awhile with orb then slap the boss

[rustic garnet]

no?

you don't get to keep the orb bonuses crossing maps

if the orb isn't on the map, no buff

[modern plaza]

no inside the volcano bro

[rustic garnet]

oh sure

if you can kill some mobs inside

but how many are there?

I 1 shot the boss...

is there an anti 1 shot mechanic?

if not... you're going ot do manual killing

[modern plaza]

but u don’t 1 shot nightmare

[rustic garnet]

sure, maybea few shot

[young blade]

and what does snail do?

[rustic garnet]

each level up is a power of 2 increase of gaming

[frigid acorn]

dk if that mob could be chowable

[rustic garnet]

This is bad as % damage is bad?

[orchid ferry]

bro is the new boss a reskin amarok? i just killed him before his first attack

[rustic garnet]

This is good, as 6% str is nice?

[thin rose]

Yes

[cosmic tendon]

A less good emperor opal?

[orchid ferry]

does the new boss even drop his cards?

[opaque sun]

Its a reskin oversized amarok totem actually

it doesnt even have an attack, the mob moles just slowly appears and heals it when touching kattle

[orchid ferry]

well im 18 kills in on normal, no card but one lucky lad lmao

[hybrid geode]

stop after 101

[young blade]

in bits u mean??

[opaque sun]

Its just bad card rate

Even on normal

[hollow wasp]

as i have the global storage pet, i can just active idle for like 5hours and stash the mob drops afterwards right? or do they despawn if to many

[opaque sun]

you can also telekinetic storage every 40 min or so

[dapper prism]

They don't despawn but you will have huge laggs and server desync

[modern plaza]

lol 😂 dont rush kruk until you have final quest

[orchid ferry]

?

[opaque sun]

Stuff on ground despawns every hour

[dapper prism]

Probably to save keys to have a chance at the one item

[opaque sun]

And money disappears every 20 min or so

[dapper prism]

obols also like hourly?

[tawdry epoch]

You not lucky did it 5 time and got a card each time

[opaque sun]

and usually the game gets friggin slow if left on floor for 5 hrs

[bright current]

fuuuk bro

y the nightmare 1 gatta have 1Q hp?

[opaque sun]

each instance of items on ground causes lag, and if your inventory is full, the game will slow to like 3 fps

[tawdry epoch]

Its only 1Q tho its a nice gate for w5 rush vs late hamer

[umbral tapir]

Is there a stamps guide? Just wondering if there is a "tier list" of stamps to focus on

[opaque sun]

multi tool top priority, then like crystal chance and mason jar

Rest is like whatever

[dapper prism]

some golden apple is also nice

[umbral tapir]

For real?

[orchid ferry]

lol just had to complain at 25 tries to get my 1rst card on the 26th try

[torpid oasis]

3/4, ill take it

[opaque sun]

like the very very basic, yes

There is more to it in detail, but the dumbed down tldr version

[umbral tapir]

Damn. I don't think I've been focusing those

[umbral tapir]

My guy. Ouch.

[hollow wasp]

is server a desync a problem?

[modern plaza]

it can be a benefit too

[opaque sun]

shifts your daily reset a bit

[tacit tulip]

it can be useful but it can mess with yout daily reset unless you cloud save

[dapper prism]

Not really, just restart the game, all minigames, dungeons, reset, anything that is specific to a time will all be out of sync

[tacit tulip]

eg when I started the game last year, my daily reset is 7pm. It's currently 10am

[dapper prism]

Main issue is the low fps game which basically means your 5h of stuff was more like 2h

[modern plaza]

number/multi i suppose

[tacit tulip]

you have to know your KPK as well which is awkward to figure out

[rustic garnet]

kattkecrunk is a booooring fight if you don't one shot

there isn't anything to it

I'm worried about my VMAN doing chaotic though :/

[charred cosmos]

anyone got the kattlekruk recipes already?

[deep lodge]

I one shot it, and it's also very boring

[rustic garnet]

oh all my main damage dealers one shot

it's just the 'kill it on 7 dudes'

[deep lodge]

I see

I won't be doing this for some time, my BB is in rift limbo for 100M kills, and I'm not waking him up until it's done because monster healths will double

[rustic garnet]

why?

[lofty silo]

How can I miss that? 😕

[rustic garnet]

Do you think you get zow/chow/super chow from rift?

[deep lodge]

You do

[rustic garnet]

I don't believe that's true

count your zow/chow

I've had this conversation in depth in this chat

count your zow/chows

you get an extra one for poop 2 and another strange mob

but I only see 70 available

and that includes the daily respawn guys

[dapper prism]

Idk, never tested, i just know it's tracked on toolbox

[coral goblet]

does upgrading do nothing?

[rustic garnet]

It was tracked, but check again

[zinc torrent]

Seems really good

[coral goblet]

gotcha thanks freedumb

[dapper prism]

Besides the failed attempt consuming the slot xD

[crisp silo]

eh whats another dreadlo tool

[thin rose]

Next pet rotation to increase odds by. 20%

[deep lodge]

When counting on toolbox and counting the 100k vs 1M stacks, it does seem to be counted (the 100k rift one). I have 0 super chows. Toolbox also display the same number of zow/chows as IE. I just can't really check in game for the next 10 days (don't want to increase my rift, just in case it is indeed counted)

[dapper prism]

Also, join a better guild

[crisp silo]

next purple pet makes all stones apply double

[dapper prism]

Better guild has +8% success chance on enchant stones:
https://i.imgur.com/Jq2kWGr.png

[rustic garnet]

Sure -- I've done this already

[zinc torrent]

ooo

[dapper prism]

along with many more bonuses, should check them out on wiki

[deep lodge]

So you're saying if I were to check in game, it would display 57 zow?

[rustic garnet]

one sec

leaving him in the rift / looking doesn't stop anything, right?

you can log in, there is no benefit to 'waiting'?

[deep lodge]

It's gonna complete a 5M rift if I log onto him. I'll do it for science tho if need be

[rustic garnet]

right

[charred cosmos]

can u only get the mole quest trophy once per account or on every character

[rustic garnet]

you don't need to walk through the rift?

if you don't walk through yous tay on the same rift?

[zinc torrent]

what about your guild, room for 1?

[deep lodge]

Does it work like this? I'm pretty sure reloading the map increases the rift

[rustic garnet]

dunno

[dapper prism]

Random fun fact, did you know, you can place some alts or whomever into the rift afk before you reach a kill quest, and it already starts stacking up your kills for that quest "IF you only login to it once u have the kill quest on rift?)

[rustic garnet]

but I walked through all of the mobs one by one

[deep lodge]

But i'll check, I shouldn't loose too much kph for just one rift

So you're saying that while Toolbox and Efficiency show 58 zow, in game would show 57?

[rustic garnet]

I don't know yours, but I'm saying chow/zow didn't go up for me

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/VkQslUp.png

[rustic garnet]

and I counted each of the mobs I've zow/chowed manually

and also found 2 'secret' chow/zow mobs

[dapper prism]

Sorry 2lazy to count atm but that's mine

[rustic garnet]

poop 2 being 1 of them

[dapper prism]

poop 2 = poop at dr def? and then the solo nutto in td map?

[rustic garnet]

yes

[dapper prism]

must be bored to chow the nutto xD

[rustic garnet]

That's just 5 hour candy

[dapper prism]

for the poop right?

[rustic garnet]

no

Poop is 1 hour

[dapper prism]

oh wow, nutto ezpz
https://i.imgur.com/LpTsiAb.png

[deep lodge]

Zow is consistent for me with toolbox/efficiency

[rustic garnet]

yeah

walk through your mobs

here look for yourself....

[deep lodge]

Like, physically? I don't understand

[green eagle]

what do you mean 😮

[rustic garnet]

66 mobs right?

you can see 66 mobs here

and it's not listing poop or nutto

so I've got those 2 secret mobs

[green eagle]

the poops with dr def and then that solo nutto gives you another mob count?

[rustic garnet]

and now I'm on 67

[dapper prism]

something broken.. just a minute ago i had 55 apo
https://i.imgur.com/agP54Jn.png

only did nutto

[rustic garnet]

I'm saying very clearly: I had chow/zowed/working on super chow the mobs in rift

they don't stay, or don't count

if they do count they only count till you MOVE map

[green eagle]

i haven't done those poops or the nutto

[deep lodge]

Your toolbox is not displaying gmush and frogs cause you're probably at 100M

[rustic garnet]

count the mobs with me

[green eagle]

are you saying i'll get 69??

[rustic garnet]

I suspect you have zow/chowed those mobs just to be clear

[quartz pollen]

Anyone have birthday card drop list? I dont see it in the wiki

[rustic garnet]

I have 67, I think 68 is max, from the white poop mobs

[dapper prism]

Still can someone explain how i went from 55 chow to 57 by only doing TD nutto (already had all zow/chow w1-4)

[lyric sequoia]

These damn keys are 1 in 25k at socks? That's outrageous

[rustic garnet]

no, that's strange

[dapper prism]

I did Dr def poops and am at 58, either way math don't mathing

https://i.imgur.com/l790wWh.png

[tacit tulip]

just use ES it aint too bad

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/mYBX4bP.png

👀

[deep lodge]

Ok so toolbox says 67 (including rift, gmush, frog), you say +2 for secret mobs and -1 for rift, so you would have 68 in game?

[lyric sequoia]

So how unlucky have I gotten, how many merits in it the first "kill kattle with X characters, starting with the first"?

[rustic garnet]

So I just got this 'up' again

I think there is something weird going on where you lose some zow/chows

because I was at 69

[deep lodge]

Can you reload map?

[rustic garnet]

if I do nutto again

[prisma drift]

3rd task is kill with first 6

[lyric sequoia]

My cooker is my 2nd character and the only 1 not at socks, definitely getting hard stuck for a few days on merits aren't I...

[dapper prism]

might be the visual counter/bool or something for rift then?

[rustic garnet]

Point is: I was at 69 chows before

I did nutto and this group

[deep lodge]

Question is: Among poops, nuttos and rift: which ones count/stay

[rustic garnet]

great question

something is not being consistent

[dapper prism]

easy 2 candies to superchow rats
https://i.imgur.com/T0Cmsin.png

Love when it's this clean

[rustic garnet]

really, at this point: I concede, I don't know how this works anymore

I was at 69

I had counted every mob

there is also the chest by bob that 'count's too

[deep lodge]

Cause for me, in game I have same zow/chow count as on toolbox/efficiency (includes rift), while I have not zowed nuttos and poops.

[dapper prism]

woups.. clicked on wrong candy.. and also wasnt in combat o.o
https://i.imgur.com/sjvJYjF.png

[rustic garnet]

(nm) it's the frogs by granpa

lol

[deep lodge]

I tell you what: I'll keep my BB parked in rift until 100M kills. It will be my only super chow with no questions asked. If it stays in game, it'll be confirmed, right?

[dapper prism]

u cant get the solo chest at bandit

[reef finch]

What is the best map farming frag?

[dapper prism]

if then its the one infront w2 dg

[rustic garnet]

k

[dapper prism]

Bloodbone, dk

[rustic garnet]

yeah that is accurate

[deep lodge]

That'll be on the 10th of july ~~

[dapper prism]

nope,. cant candy those mimics at dg entrance either

[rustic garnet]

yeah there is another mob somewhere that 'counts'

but is nearly impossible

like bbefore a dungeon map, the frogs maybe?

[deep lodge]

Also you were right, you need to physically walk in the new rift for it to increase mob health/change

[rustic garnet]

good

I'm now doubting all of this again

and need to re-check

16 W1 mobs, bonus nutto and bonus poop for 18
11 W2 mobs
14 W3 mobs
13 W4 mobs
13 W5 mobs

67

right?

That's 16 + 2 (the boop is really hard)

[noble hound]

How does the rift slug pet work? Cant see my +25lvls anywhere

[rustic garnet]

11 for this one

[deep lodge]

Did you add 1 level in the talent?

[rustic garnet]

14 here

[dapper prism]

yes, any talent that has a talent in it will just be +25/25 higher

[lyric sequoia]

bruh wym the first kattle quest is 6m moles, that's like non-MK kills too 💀

[rustic garnet]

13 here

[deep lodge]

With AFK, MK works. Also, just ignore it

[rustic garnet]

That's 13

[lyric sequoia]

Quest kills don't count MK from active kills

[dapper prism]

but the kills don't have to be active?

[lyric sequoia]

Guess I'll go move all my afk characters from socks to moles then, blah

[rustic garnet]

16 W1 mobs, bonus nutto and bonus poop for 18
11 W2 mobs
14 W3 mobs
13 W4 mobs
13 W5 mobs

So... I have 15 W1 easy kills, 2 secret (I have these)
28
42
55
68

so I guess rift must count, and you can 'lose' nutto and poop2 kills some how

Fine fine, back to the pits of hell for you BB

Does this help chow/zow?

[deep lodge]

For rift, it can since you're real under MK threshold (altho yours is quite high level, might be worse)

I managed to get my BB to 300k kph without MK

[rustic garnet]

sorry this isn't MK though

[quartz pollen]

What helps with active farming mob mats? MK and MK per tier?

[rustic garnet]

this is 'counts as extra' does it help for BB's chow/zow or no?

[deep lodge]

It counts as mob kills yes, what counts is card count/deathnote

[sick sentinel]

Not normally since it takes you dont an mk tier

[deep lodge]

Just watch your kph go up

[sick sentinel]

Well usually

[hollow wasp]

can i just open up these or is there anything that makes the output better?

[rustic garnet]

nothing

[formal grove]

the full kattle armour is better than magma for each class in every way? not sure about pants and chest on ES and DK

[sick sentinel]

Per tier is better version than base mk

[rustic garnet]

I don't think full kattle is going ot be better than %stats

[placid mural]

ignor kattle armor

[formal grove]

ya thats what i'm thinking

[rustic garnet]

frankly, I think we're going to see a quick 'yeah its shit' crowd form quickly

[placid mural]

kattle weapons are good

[rustic garnet]

weapons 100%

[dapper prism]

weapons are always better

more speed, more wp type of thing

[deep lodge]

It's the doot consolation prize, better be grateful! /s

[fallen jacinth]

is there an up to date google doc for guide ?

[dapper prism]

updated in what way? !guide is still good for most content

[green eagle]

doot just THROWS divinity pearls at you

[true obsidian]

with this smol dmg, should i use the prayer that +dr but +monster hp? for boss key farm

[dapper prism]

+HP = less wormhole kills

and wormholes is what drops stuff

[lyric sequoia]

What is this god awful card drop chance for regular kattle 💀

[green eagle]

i'm trying to wrap my head around how your dmg is that low

you have high stats in so many areas, but like your dmg is way behind

[sick sentinel]

Idk i was getting cards almosy every time lol. Bad luck i guess

[dapper prism]

lacking stuff like alch bubbles most likely

[edgy sorrel]

not gonna ask in gen chat since it's just a non stop argument about companions. am i missing something regarding carry capacity? if two of my guys have the same bag why would they have a different number?

[dapper prism]

star talent chest

[green eagle]

higher skill level in regards to skilling mat bags

and then star talent is another reason

[dapper prism]

lastly, prayer ig

[green eagle]

then you could have a prayer or star sign equipped on one and not the other

[granite grove]

if stamps are upgraded to high enough level, item cap % is affected by respective skill levels

[edgy sorrel]

none of them have the star talent chest upgraded

[granite grove]

so skill level indirectly affects item cap

[green eagle]

only skill mat bags

[dapper prism]

Yay w2 superchowed, off to w3 😄
https://i.imgur.com/zamkOd5.png

[granite grove]

or that i guess

[edgy sorrel]

it's the monster capacity one if that matters

[green eagle]

as the stamp scales off of your level to "unlock" your higher progress (if you have a super high skill stamp it will scale the reward down based on your level)

[dapper prism]

rofl, and my potatoe is still not even 3* 👀
https://i.imgur.com/4nR732t.png

oh right.. because im splicing

forgot that removes cards xD

[green eagle]

i want lava to make nightmare amarok cards passive

[narrow sable]

now that i got the bear should i pull everyone out of lab

i reach the end of lab at this point

[green eagle]

there is 0 reason to have that at potential ruby level aside from card set bonus

[obsidian nacelle]

okayyyyy kattlekruk or whatever cooked my ass 😭 not enough damage

[gray thicket]

Do Dimensional Wormhole kills count for portal kills?

[deep lodge]

Don't think so, but they do respawn other mobs so it's still worth it

[deep lodge]

No too sure tho, and can't test it anymore

[hidden sphinx]

Check on a mob who your char has barely killed, if they count for death note they’ll count for portal

[prisma drift]

How strong are the moles for nightmare kattle?

Anyone know how much Hp they have

[zinc torrent]

Still farming keys to get there

[uneven thicket]

no way to use candies for afk at w5?

[hidden sphinx]

Not until new world

[deep lodge]

It's a real pain to get keys when you don't have a colo in that world

[gray thicket]

It's hard to notice because I get 3. something kills per mob

[hidden sphinx]

Turn off auto and click on a portal mob

Don’t use an aoe skill

[lyric sequoia]

Nightmare kattle has 1Q health huh, that's ominous

[gray thicket]

They don't...

[hidden sphinx]

Rip

We’ll still the respawn mechanic of the portal is insane

Damn the new stones are gooood

[lyric sequoia]

The lack of regular kattle cards in 50 keys on base kattle is also a bad sign for 4/5 starring chaotic and nightmare

[hidden sphinx]

You have been doing vman yeah

Maybe that’s why the w5 card pack is in shop rotation

[gritty needle]

hey guys whats this thing i have circled?

[dapper prism]

daily minigame attempts (skills)

[heady raptor]

thoughts about new update-
-lava adressed doot complaints, still leaves alot of questions about how it works with the cycles of pets and it still takes way to long for a f2p to get but its a step in the right direction
-holy shit they buffed blood beserk (do beastmaster next please)
-new boss that i cant fight yet (prob cool)

[gritty needle]

oh wow lol completely forgot about that mechanic. ty

[hidden sphinx]

Besides early game quick resources and completing the achievement the only other use seems to be helping to farm green leaves

[pulsar cliff]

Anyone have his scarf recipe unlocked?

[gray thicket]

I'm jealous

[narrow sable]

ill forgive him if in 5 hours i pull king doot

[shrewd nexus]

so whats the communities vibe now theres been an update and a break of silence?

[hidden sphinx]

The boss itself is boring but gunna be more fun to farm than troll if you can’t oneshot. It does add a tonne of new equipment tho so

[hidden sphinx]

I mean he didn’t really address the fact everyone was calling it a gacha

[deep lodge]

Its just as expected, disappointing

[heady raptor]

not gonna happen lol but keep believing
i think the system could use a major improvment like giving us more rolls per week/ giving us a way to earn more via quests

[hidden sphinx]

And f2p players gotta wait 200 weeks for doot

[narrow sable]

4 years lmao

[heady raptor]

new methods of getting pet rolls like daily quests would help alot

[deep lodge]

That's an improvement for you, not for lava's wallet. Why on earth would he do that??

[shrewd nexus]

actaully you only get 10 weeks then its gone onrotation

[hidden sphinx]

Plus there’s been a new issue with iOS not registering companions for some people so some of the paying iOS users are annoyed

[torpid oasis]

legit just add killroy option

problem solved

[heady raptor]

TRUE

[hidden sphinx]

So instead of 4 years it’s gunna be more

[heady raptor]

all my homies love killroy

[lyric sequoia]

Nope, because the pity timer only applies to paid uses

[deep lodge]

Also, seems 200th pull MUST be with paid gems to guarantee doot (haven't seen proof, but heard that)

[hidden sphinx]

I thought people were just joking about it

[deep lodge]

Is it every single pull?

[lyric sequoia]

All pulls count towards the timer, but the pity only applies if you pay for a pull after hitting it

[charred cosmos]

can anyone show me a ss of their spice team?

[narrow sable]

theres so many F2P friendly things you could do and i dont think any of them will be done until the pet feature is essentially irrelevant

[hidden sphinx]

He was not forthcoming with that info in the discord patch notes

[fervent brook]

Is the respawn keychain useful for anything?

[torpid oasis]

samples mby

idk

[heady raptor]

more kills per hour i think

[dense eagle]

sorry i saw just now your message i was on the gym, sounds nice but where are your rest of the chars? you said only about 4? oh you are dootless?

[heady raptor]

so overall afk gains

[hidden sphinx]

It’s gunna be worth getting it at least once

[narrow sable]

i do like the look for W6 though

[hidden sphinx]

It does look good

[torpid oasis]

The moment i saw the teaser

i thought this

[heady raptor]

i just hope it gets music to fit it

[heady raptor]

wtf

[hidden sphinx]

And hopefully he’s doing a more in depth plan than he seemed to have about w5 when w4 was released

[heady raptor]

how do you get MOON LORD from that

[hollow wasp]

best game ever

[torpid oasis]

colors and how its themed

[hidden sphinx]

Nah reminds me of one of the super Mario galaxy planets

[fervent brook]

I have one event card left to get to 5 star.

[deep lodge]

It tried turning on the sound, in case there was something interesting for W5 boss. I was quickly reminded of why I turn it off

[torpid oasis]

terraria and mc will always be the goats

no cap

[heady raptor]

speaking of terraira any of you guys played starlight river yet?

its really good

like

[hidden sphinx]

Terraria will continue to be a goat as it’s not being content updated anymore

[torpid oasis]

nop, havnt played terraria in a while

[hidden sphinx]

MC might fall from goat hood depending on the content updates

[heady raptor]

wrong! 4.5 is in the works

or wait

1.4.5

yea

that

[narrow sable]

terraria will always be "done getting updates"
and it will probably always get more content

[hidden sphinx]

They literally said they were stopping new content 😂

They flat out promised terraria was completed

[simple palm]

Yet they always continue

[torpid oasis]

As long as mods can be made, even if the devs themself dont make more. The community always will

[heady raptor]

like right after they released 1.4.4 they then said they were working on another cross over update with dead cells

[hidden sphinx]

Tbf sandbox games can get boring after a while without new content

[narrow sable]

they got too much love for the game even though they probably have made all of the money there is to make with it

[shrewd nexus]

bleh high level upgrade stone with a % chance to fail and use up the slot

[narrow sable]

they still make free new content

[hidden sphinx]

Dead cells crossovers are coated

[cosmic tendon]

There’s something about playing a game to completion and loving it and missing it

[hidden sphinx]

66% chance

[narrow sable]

i miss NGU idle that game was so fuckin good

[lyric sequoia]

Wait there have been more terraria updates after 1.4?

[narrow sable]

ye

[fervent brook]

If you get the 5 star cardifiers use them for event cards for the love of god (though its not bad to uses one or two for the crystal chance cards)

[torpid oasis]

event cards, boss cards and the crystal ones is prio

[lyric sequoia]

Is it like, super different now to 1.4? I thought the only thing coming after 1.4 was the mod support for TModLoader and stuff

[hidden sphinx]

I’m annoyed you’ve managed to get such high card ranks on event cards

😦

[narrow sable]

not really but some cool new stuff

[hidden sphinx]

I didn’t even get 4 star bubbulyte from the Easter event

[fervent brook]

I am one away to 5 star event set have to wait for next round of 5 star cardifiers.

[dense eagle]

somone did the math how much points needed to have all spells in tab 5 max?

[deep lodge]

245 * 15?

[cosmic tendon]

What is tab 5?

[dapper prism]

Anyone know required bubo DMG to 1 shot Wurms WITH Prayers Coins+DR ?

[heady raptor]

thats why mods exist and god damn are they cool as hell

this is still terraria and it blows my mind

[hidden sphinx]

Just go to wurms map and check afk to see their health

Then you can work it out

[dense eagle]

yea am i stupid or there are some more buffs and its diferent for each spells?

[hidden sphinx]

Not for tab 4 skills

[dense eagle]

kk sorry for being stupid thanks

[hidden sphinx]

Dw and stop saying you’re being stupid

[hollow wasp]

calamity mod is the best imo

[fervent brook]

Is the new boss equipment a straight upgrade or more of a side grade?

[dense eagle]

well kinda, i am student on physics and i cant figure out 245*15 alone 😅

[lyric sequoia]

Is calamity still on 1.3 or did they get it to 1.4 now?

[signal osprey]

Armor is kind of a side grade. Rest is upgrades

[sick sentinel]

Side to down. All stats better for dmg than total dmg

[peak bane]

3675 if i calculated correctly

[cosmic tendon]

U know it’s bad when the only ppl who aren’t talking about how bad it is are talking about playing different games

[deep lodge]

It's true that there are talents (mainly/only) in tab 1 that can't be leveled up to 245 via library

[peak bane]

questions w5 has been like this for a while

[fervent brook]

I guess the DR might be good for active character with the new equipment.

[sick sentinel]

Thats what i'll use it for

[lyric sequoia]

Loss of stats is kinda eh though

[deep lodge]

How long is a while? Seems you've been here since today But I do agree, I live here and speak about whatever comes up, questions and others

[sick sentinel]

Lost stats is bad but can be made up other places

[peak bane]

Main acc got deleted, switched to this

[deep lodge]

I see, welcome back

[peak bane]

ty

im pretty shit at the game though

[hollow wasp]

same

[fervent brook]

Is there a DR amount where anything higher does not really do anything? I have a DR of 12.46

[deep lodge]

Higher is always better pretty much

[lyric sequoia]

I'm unreasonably upset that I stopped progressing my cooker at citringes now, waiting to unlock over to moles is the worst

Does the wiki say somewhere how many kills each zone needs for portals?

[heavy moth]

thats some bullshit right there XD

[peak bane]

Yeah

[deep lodge]

There's a page just for that

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Portal_Requirements

[fervent brook]

At least we don’t have to unlock portals for Vman. That is a huge timesaver.

[lyric sequoia]

Ah only 1m kills for citringers, then 2 and 3? Not too bad then since my cooker has 1m kph on citringes

[cosmic tendon]

Do I need to complete the sleeping moles quest to get keys to start dropping?

[steep cipher]

How’s the new boss? I haven’t tried yet

[dapper prism]

Yay finished w4 Superchows

[steep cipher]

I did farm some keys last night

[deep lodge]

Boring and with 1Q health for nightmare

[lyric sequoia]

1 shot the base thinking it'd be harder, sooo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc torrent]

Is anyone else getting more keys per hour on ES than DK?

[cosmic tendon]

Basically like every other boss

[dapper prism]

Started at 12 superchows to 53, that cooking gonna go brrrrghhh
https://i.imgur.com/rSlH6kr.png
https://i.imgur.com/C9QsCZD.png

[deep lodge]

That... expected?

[cosmic tendon]

If u can get to it u can get thru it

[lyric sequoia]

There's something about moles healing it or something? No idea never saw anything spawn before base or chaotic died

[lyric sequoia]

It's a base drop, ES is far better at base drops than DK is

[zinc torrent]

My mistake. Thanks for the correction.

[dense eagle]

someone made a vid on killing nighmare boss 5 with vman? sounds sucks to me

[tacit tulip]

it's easy just have more damage

[dense eagle]

i dont think dmg is the problem because no one 1 shot him, if you 1 shot the mobs (and ofcorse i do) dmg isnt really the barrier

[heavy moth]

wdym no one one shot him ?

[lyric sequoia]

So this is a lie, just got +1 proc twice...

[fallen jacinth]

[dense eagle]

did you ever see someone do 1000T dmg with vman? i dont

[heavy moth]

reading hard didnt saw Vman ahah my bad. indeed never saw that

[dense eagle]

oh haha yea reading is hard

[heavy moth]

(insert tony gif)

[fathom trellis]

It's anyone else having trouble logging in since the update? My game just crashes as soon as I load a character

[dense eagle]

so on this subject did you finished the nighmare with your vman yet?

[heavy moth]

no i sadly locked myself with my cooker not on mole yet

[lyric sequoia]

That spreadsheet needs an asterisk on that timer

[dense eagle]

oh what a mistakee

[lyric sequoia]

*As long as you buy the 201th pull

[heavy moth]

yea at least i completed previous portal in less than 2 hours top so only like 2 map to go

[hollow wasp]

i try to climb in league of legends now. byee

[dense eagle]

nice gl with that then

[heavy moth]

thanks ill tell you how it went with vman 😛

[hasty veldt]

How much damage you all think I have

[lyric sequoia]

Oh hey twinsies

[hollow wasp]

atlest 2

[heavy moth]

ahah that poor kitchen slave got forgotten as well ? how far was he in w5

[hasty veldt]

2 what?million or billion

[lyric sequoia]

Only gotta get through lampars and furies at least, but that's a good 6 or 7 hours of afk D:

[hollow wasp]

just 2

[viral snow]

Did you lose all your equipment?

[hollow wasp]

see, atleast 2 dmg

[lyric sequoia]

Congrats on rushing to w5 and being woefully underpowered for it

[heavy moth]

same 500k left for lampar and what ever portal req for next one

[lyric sequoia]

3m for furies

[vernal iris]

guys why is bb still so slow

[lyric sequoia]

Because he's an AFK princess

[noble sable]

World 2 stats

[lyric sequoia]

Don't try to active it

[hollow wasp]

furry

[heavy moth]

luckly i swap that kitchen H** for a DK so ill active that portal in no time

[vocal warren]

Does wis affect liquid rate?

[noble sable]

No

Just affect boost ph

if i rmb

[heavy moth]

and gianing some nice level started level 250

[vernal iris]

but that was the fun

[lyric sequoia]

hm, the kattle achievements aren't too bad at least

8 might suck, and 9 depending on how quickly these mole things spawn since I've never seen them

898 keys to do all the achievements assuming you 1 try them all? Not awful

[heavy moth]

only the last one will be a pain

[lyric sequoia]

kill nkattle on 10 characters? Nah that's fine

Misread what 8 is, that one is fine too

9 might be annoying depending on moles

[heavy moth]

8-9 i think are easy 1Q is like 2 hit

[lyric sequoia]

If the mole thing is like amarok healing then it's probably easy

There's no shot you're hitting for 500T damage lol

[heavy moth]

on a DR set

[lyric sequoia]

🤔 that's not average hits though

[heavy moth]

of course not but potential is there XD

and you hit multiple times before mole get to boss i imagine

[lyric sequoia]

wait

waaaaaaiiiiit

There are new stamps? God damnit

[tacit tulip]

wait really?

where

[lyric sequoia]

Kattle drops 1

[heavy moth]

jsut for the fun of it

[subtle elk]

Isnt that the same stamp that wurms drop?

[lyric sequoia]

Drops a storage chest too

hm might be, it's not in my drop pool but is on the wiki

[heavy moth]

gettting close to 1 shotting the boss XD

[thin sedge]

anyone have quest list from new npc yet?>

[tacit tulip]

lol ye, it's the existing stuff

[lyric sequoia]

Everything is on the wiki from the looks of it

Oh maybe not the new NPC

[thin sedge]

quest guy doesnt seem to be

[tawdry steeple]

he is, just gotta search for it

[lyric sequoia]

First quest is 6m mole kills though, I know that

[thin sedge]

ah tyty

[lyric sequoia]

And the last quest is to get the wings I think I heard?

Oh scarf not wings

Less awful

[thin sedge]

im assuming youd have to get the drop on each character?

or can you just equip it and pass it along?

[lyric sequoia]

The trophy kinda worth the pain though

[tight merlin]

Nope not worth it when you dont have doot

[lyric sequoia]

Usually you have to have it drop from the mob for it to trigger

[tacit tulip]

yeah "get drop" suggests you have to do it on that character

[thin sedge]

so you can pass the cape around and have to get the cape drop then

[tawdry steeple]

trophy is only good for active, and doot mainly helps out afk

[thin sedge]

prolly have more scarfs then capes anyway

[versed cypress]

you can pass the pendant around, you MUST get the cape DROP from the boss

[thin sedge]

yeah thats gonna be a pain

[versed cypress]

the trophy is extremely good so i can understand why its so hard to get

[thin sedge]

true

[stark hearth]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[lyric sequoia]

Wait is takes 2 lucky lads to craft the scarf? That's just BM

[thin sedge]

but a 1/3,334 drop chance for the wings D:

[lyric sequoia]

Do you know how many lucky lads I've vendored (or dropped after they became unvendorable)? 💀

[versed cypress]

and its 70 keys each try xDD

[versed cypress]

i have it on the item filter

[thin sedge]

tysm for saying that, i did as well

just took it offf

[lyric sequoia]

Oh fuck me so do I. Guess I'll take it off

[orchid rapids]

who couldve guessed lava didnt stop development on his game 😲

crazy stuff

[versed cypress]

you want good dr and very good dmg

[viral snow]

am i blind or cant i filter out crystalline stamp from dropping ?

[tawdry steeple]

with 14.4 dr I think I'm getting like 20 keys an hour? maybe more or less not too sure yet

[placid mural]

I hope kattle and badger divination are released soon

[lyric sequoia]

Who would've guessed he would just not actually respond to all the gacha backlash? Oh everyone guessed? Nvm

[versed cypress]

pretty much

[placid mural]

Divinities*

[orchid rapids]

its a good thing that wasnt my contention with anyone at all lol

[lyric sequoia]

Finish the quest

[tight merlin]

Just get death note to 1bil kills this multi bonus skyrocket your dmg

[orchid rapids]

and he did respond, he basically just said the companions update was good for the game

i can try to break it down for you

[dapper prism]

So, i just went from 12 to 53 superchows. Only have gmush at 1b+
At what kph would you get more 1b's ?

[versed cypress]

it was good for thegame bottom line yeah, it will probably allows a shit ton of advertising and for him to not worry at all for a long time

[lyric sequoia]

Well no, he completely skirted around the actual issue and was like "lol $500 pity timer is good enough"

[versed cypress]

it wasnt really good for the community as it showed the worst of the community

[tight merlin]

2mil kph per map is fine when you have 2 good SB

[viral snow]

thanks

[tight merlin]

I finished map1 1bil in a month with 2 sbs

[orchid rapids]

idk if i'd call it skirting around the issue because he was pretty clear he doesn't see it as an issue

[tight merlin]

Working on map2 now

[dapper prism]

world1?

[orchid rapids]

he acknowledges people are upset about it and is basically saying too bad

[runic token]

yep

[tight merlin]

World1 i have 3mil kph and gmush 5mil

[lyric sequoia]

Me mainly talked about numbers playing, didn't once talk about the monetization at all

[narrow torrent]

can someone tell me skill order for cranium cooking?

[versed cypress]

i mean when the burnt of the "mad" comments and information you get are things that boild down to insults, and death treaths would you want to acknowledge it???

[orchid rapids]

trust me i do not want to defend those people

[runic token]

I feel like I’ve been dragging on gaming the past month been stuck in the billions. But I just unlocked chem plant AND snail so should I start seeing some massive gains soon?

[tight merlin]

If you unlocked the rift bonus yes the bonus is big if you levep up your death note

[lyric sequoia]

Except that wasn't what the reaction was in Discord Crystal, stop trying to misrepresent what happened, Lava doesn't need you to defned him

[versed cypress]

but thats the problem, those shit of ppl that scream the loudest ended up drowning down the actual complains and comments and even the suggestions about the whole situation

[dapper prism]

Huge gains, snail takes 3 days per rank up (with a chance to fail) each rank up be double it's multiplier.
Chem is also huge, a lot easier with kitty on to hit t5's which is a day skip for insta reset on log,

[versed cypress]

hotair came yesterday and he did explain to us that the burnt of what lava and the mods got from everywhere was that cephyr

[tight merlin]

Yes

[lyric sequoia]

I assume you mean brunt, and guess what - they could've turned off DMs

[runic token]

Finally got eldritch fury too, same day I got Chem plant actually

[versed cypress]

thats on the level of the response of "well you cannot pay" or "you can stop playing if you dont like it"

[dapper prism]

Yeh gonna be massive changes now. 200 tente for bubo will be a game changer alone.

Chem+Log combo, and then snail. Snail is just like a snail, slow af, xD

[lyric sequoia]

The general actual discord response of heavily criticizing introducting gacha into the game after being so apparently against it in his own game's description was entirely justified

[tight merlin]

He is close to 400 tente:D

[runic token]

What is tente?

Oh tentacle eye

[tight merlin]

4sec tent is at 400 right?

[dapper prism]

yup

but impossible to get

[lyric sequoia]

A small portion of people taking it way too far doesn't justify any of the bait and switch introduction of gacha, and him implying it does is just fucked up

[versed cypress]

yeha thats my reaction as well, i despise the system i hate it with a pasion and in response to some of the situation he did something... was it enough.. hell no.. its far from a bandaid on a fracture type of thing, its not the level or the ammount of response he should have done, theres a lot more to do in regards of it

[dapper prism]

since max is like 315ish atm?

[tight merlin]

I mean you can break now 300

If lava adds more sailing artis fury will give later x6 x7 we will never know

[lyric sequoia]

Don't get me wrong I'm not defending the mental patients that do send that sort of message, but that doesn't magically make the system justified, nor does it immunize him from legitimate criticism of it

[versed cypress]

and thatx the thing, legitimate criticism needs to happen, but lava goes nuclear whenever that is mixed wiht the other kind of things and he ignores everything

[dapper prism]

I believe the issue isn't this game and the way it's done. It's all games and how gacha/loot boxes have been normalized in games as a whole. The thing now is "well everyone else is doing it so i should too"

[runic token]

Don’t you think it’s possible the communities complaints were misrepresented though by those extremists?

[orchid rapids]

is this responding to me?

[lyric sequoia]

Is your name Crystall?

[versed cypress]

nothing jusrifies what he and the mods got, but also doesnt absolve lava on the whole FOMO gacha that he created and this pity of 200 tries is just a very very shit bandaid, more work needs to happen and more needs to be done to make it right

[tight merlin]

Yea this game was not designed for gacha now we have gacha and alot people just quit cause thats not the game they learned to play anymore

[orchid rapids]

you forgot a comma, my bad

[lean kestrel]

RNG is a bitch

[lyric sequoia]

Other games doing it and/or being worse doesn't justify the system being added to this game

[orchid rapids]

i was like wtf is discord crystal

[versed cypress]

yu also have to take into account trickz, that lavas gacha system is one of the worst out there at the moment

[tight merlin]

Worst than some hardcore p2w games

[lyric sequoia]

It's also hilarious that he follows up the introduction of the most aggressive monetization he's ever done by adding yet another BIS item in the fomo shop

[tight merlin]

Its not really bis only good for vman

[versed cypress]

the pity is infamous (500 dolars for pity is still way too much) thre is no way to farm the premium currency for it so f2p ppl are screwed out of it, and if we get rotations then things will just become way way worse for it

[versed cypress]

you mean the sailor hat??

[tight merlin]

If we dont have rotation and only doot stays forever that kinda okay but with rotation 200 pitty is so bad

[lyric sequoia]

I don't think you understand how good respawn rate is then

Those 2 amulets are better for afk than any other in the game

[tight merlin]

Afk chains better

[lyric sequoia]

20% respawn rate chains

12% afk gains is strictly not better than 20% respawn rate

[tight merlin]

You lose alot kph on gmush with respawn chainz only vman is fine with them

[deep lodge]

Also, the 20% respawn rate (a rare bonus) multiply with your AFK fight% (a not so rare bonus)

[versed cypress]

ahhh those honestly i didnt even paid attention to those xDDD

but yeah, still the fomo shop can be countrred by the fact that we have a ton of ways to farm blue gems

and you can get large ammounts relatively easy stockpiled

[lyric sequoia]

Not really

[deep lodge]

He's been adding so much shit to gem shop, I'm not sure you can really buy out the Fomo shop each time

[tight merlin]

1k blue gems a week should be possible