lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[azure spindle]

the sleepy mole questline

[opaque sun]

get cape drop while wearing kattle scarf

[cosmic tendon]

Kettle out?

[versed cypress]

that last quest.. its going to take a lot of dedication xDDD

how many keys you need for nightmare??

[quasi galleon]

70

[versed cypress]

not as bad considering we can farm them

[sharp wind]

Theres better be a qol in world 6 that allow us to use candy in w5 later on

[opaque sun]

Good thing is that keys farmable on the best active farming map

[dapper prism]

Mind spoiling it for me and letting me know what the requests/requirements are? xD

[azure spindle]

wait nm key cost went up for this boss?

[quasi galleon]

That's just called W6 releasing

[dapper prism]

Keys from wurms?

[opaque sun]

moles to wurms

Wurms with best drop rate

[cosmic tendon]

What’s the odds

[sharp wind]

1:25k in wurms

[dapper prism]

75, 50, 25 for the respective 3 last zones K

[cosmic tendon]

Oh wow I should have a couple on my afk claim

Thanks

[versed cypress]

sent you a DM

[dapper prism]

oh wow, went to dinner and came back to this, so pretty decent, should max out my DR:
https://i.imgur.com/tALHnsE.png

[sharp wind]

With es?

[dapper prism]

Nawh bubo

Es would probably have a 0 behind that xD

[modern plaza]

confirmed?

[dapper prism]

Based on wiki

[sharp wind]

So in wurms bubo faster for key?

[quasi galleon]

Don't have to wear scarf when it drops

[wanton stag]

where do you get wrld 5 boss keys?

[modern plaza]

just have scarf unlocked or in invey or storage??

[quasi galleon]

Don't need it at all for the cape part

[modern plaza]

so cape drops = trophy xD

if have quest

[quasi galleon]

Not quite

You still need the other half of the quest, it just doesn't relate to the cape req

[sharp wind]

Heh what does it mean? We need to have scarf to get cape?

[modern plaza]

Hotair doesnt want so spoil lol

[azure spindle]

wait... did the all the w5 weapons used to cost dandilogs or is that a new change?

[tight merlin]

Whats the best class to farm keys

Bubo?

[ashen marsh]

damn these limited specials are awful

[quasi galleon]

ES probably

[modern plaza]

for an endgamer lol...

[ashen marsh]

yeah, are you guys getting anything from the limited specials?

[lean beacon]

whats that new pendant for doing all the boss merits?

[versed cypress]

the hat premium,ifier is 1 slab slot and is just 1 gem,

[quasi galleon]

The scarf? It's amazing

[modern plaza]

at least one key chain, maybe the card pack, and the freebie

[quasi galleon]

Unfortunately I have to ruin my account to get it

:/

[tight merlin]

The mob chainz better than afk ? For gmush

[versed cypress]

the scarf blows the current Cchiz scarf out of the way

[ashen marsh]

what would you use the keychain for?

[quasi galleon]

I'm not looking forward to doing what I have to do in order to unlock it

[hollow ledge]

kinda still disappointed with lava tbh.... wish he at least acknowledged what ACTUALLY made people upset about the last update.....

[modern plaza]

vman

[lean beacon]

what is the stats on the scarf?

[quasi galleon]

My 9th character is a perma-beginner. No multipliers, no attack talents... no real chance

[versed cypress]

check the wiki its updated with the drops

[modern plaza]

comon Hotair stop it

[quasi galleon]

Stop what?

[ashen marsh]

ahhh I'm working towards vman right now. I just need w2 monsters

[modern plaza]

lol Merit 10 requires 700 keys already

[versed cypress]

hotair do the nightmare one really has 1Q hp??

[quasi galleon]

Ain't no way my beginner can get through 1000T hp and stop the mobs from healing the boss

Yes

[modern plaza]

1Q wtf jesus

[quasi galleon]

Like an actual beginner

They beat all of W4 pre-nerf

[versed cypress]

i have a lot to do to progress my account before i een attempt that xDD

[quasi galleon]

But this task is a bit steep

[formal swift]

I want the trophy badly cause 42% doubled is so nice

[versed cypress]

maybe on w6 xDD

[modern plaza]

whatever you do, just make sure you have the 3rd quest before doing Kattle

[ashen marsh]

thats bad ass

[sharp wind]

wait why?

[modern plaza]

if u get lucky and cape drops

u better have the quest

[sharp wind]

cape will not drop if i dont have quest?

[versed cypress]

2374h afk to claim.... nah i guess ill wait untill that number says 2400h to claim on 9 characters xDDDD

[versed cypress]

cape will drop, but you want to have the quest so you can also get the thropy xDDD

[covert sphinx]

what do u get at the end of tired mole questline?

[versed cypress]

a very very very OP thropy

[quasi galleon]

also a trophy

[sharp wind]

i dont see any in wiki

i mean the quest

[versed cypress]

search for tired mole in the search bar

[leaden shuttle]

Does cattlecruck even do anything?

[quasi galleon]

Summons minions

[leaden shuttle]

Thats it?

[quasi galleon]

drops stuff

[leaden shuttle]

If the minions touch cattlecruck do u lose? Or they just spawn and roam around?

[quasi galleon]

They heal him

[sharp wind]

whats the hp for the normal one?

[leaden shuttle]

100B

[versed cypress]

soon soon xDDD

[sharp wind]

well that should be easy

[sharp wind]

wow

[versed cypress]

thts what 99 days of afk look like xDDDD

work is such a wonderful thing xDDD

[modern plaza]

wtffff, bro u need to get RAM before claiming

[versed cypress]

ohh i have more than enough ram xDD

[quasi galleon]

They'll be fine. They accidentally left UE on everyone

[versed cypress]

hahahah ironicaly no xDD i did made sure to check on all of that beforehand xDDD

[ashen marsh]

what the hell. I haven't even played that long LOL

[modern plaza]

imagine 10hr gains maxed lol

[sharp wind]

and turns out he forget to deactive this

[oak minnow]

This update only added the boss, but kattlecruk divinity is still nothing I assume?

[versed cypress]

the oly one that used to have UE was my maestro and i removed it before i went for the mega afk xD

[quasi galleon]

Yes, nothing for the divinity yet

[ashen marsh]

if you have UE, it only affects the character that has it on right

[quasi galleon]

yes

[versed cypress]

work, lack of motivation, and just logging into 1 character to claim daily stuff

[quasi galleon]

Good point though, I'm finally retiring my Bubo and need to take it off

I hit my goal today

[ashen marsh]

omg

[versed cypress]

ohhh damn

[ashen marsh]

mines is barely lvl 15

[sharp wind]

is that maxed?

[quasi galleon]

There is no max

[fringe matrix]

Haven’t looked at it yet but do we think the new armor is better then the magma armor?

[versed cypress]

GT bubblo scaling doesnt max out

[sharp wind]

is there a max for this?

[bleak gazelle]

170 i think?

[quasi galleon]

Nope

170 for brewing cauldrons though

[sharp wind]

damn it

yeah

maxed all of them

[quasi galleon]

Yeah, that's where I was pouring liquid 3 while using the first 2 on GT

[sharp wind]

whats ur liquid/hour without any people hotair?

[quasi galleon]

I don't use characters in my liquid lol

all in sigils

This is lab enabled, of course

Never turning that off

[sharp wind]

yea

oh wow need to get them upgrade

mine so little

[quasi galleon]

this helps a lot

Meals do too

[sharp wind]

... takes a thousand years for me to max that

[quasi galleon]

Rift and the trapping change both help a LOT with that

also Vman for meal levels

[sharp wind]

yeah rn im just trying to get them levels up

[quasi galleon]

Speaking of which, I need to retrap :/

Remember, you can place exp traps from vman/mman for all your characters

and power that up

[cerulean yew]

I was just retrapping too

the XP goes to whoever placed, yeah?

[quasi galleon]

I have 1 exp trap for every one of my characters, with the other 7 being critters (all exp on vman)

No lol

Tht'd be silly

[versed cypress]

exp goes to whoever owns the trap

[sharp wind]

ouch i forgot to do this

[quasi galleon]

It goes to the owner of the trap

[cerulean yew]

SOunds like I got a bit of optimizing to do ! wil have to open up my dumb excel

[quasi galleon]

So my BM placed 7 traps for every character, Vman placed one

[versed cypress]

i have to go get my VMAN xDDD

[tranquil surge]

whats the accuracy needed for chaotic troll?

is it in the millions

or is it really only like 7.5

[quasi galleon]

?wiki Troll

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Troll

[quasi galleon]

Wiki knows

[tranquil surge]

its either missing the m

on the wiki

or im about to get trolled

[sharp wind]

what does it mean, if i use green trap which every my char have everyone gets the exp?

[quasi galleon]

Oh that is weird

[sharp wind]

or its just the one that put the trap?

[tranquil surge]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Massive_Troll#Normal_Difficulty-0

have a look

[quasi galleon]

Hotair gets exp from all the traps in the first row, Goren for the second

[opaque sun]

one the puts the trap determines the exp and critter

[tranquil surge]

missing the m?

or its actually only 7.5

[opaque sun]

The trap on each person determines the trap slots

[sharp wind]

ohh but each still get the exp right?

[cerulean yew]

So Vman xp boost >> probably just when doing green traps?

[quasi galleon]

For traps, you can use any lower tier trap

[tranquil surge]

i dont wana waste my keys if it is million

[opaque sun]

If vman place trap for bubo, bubo gets vman worth of exp and vman worth of critters

[tranquil surge]

anyone got plenty of spare keys and can do a chaotic troll to check?

[placid mural]

best use of 5star cardifiers?

[tranquil surge]

on boss cards

[bright current]

bosses

[opaque sun]

Nightmare bosses

[versed cypress]

nightmare bosses

[sleek tree]

what the new throphy do?

[opaque sun]

And some later chaos bosses

42% dr trophy

[tight merlin]

Big droprate boost

[sleek tree]

where new bosses?

[opaque sun]

big mole

[tight merlin]

You need doot to unlock it

[tranquil surge]

also tremor wurm is a good one

the stat booster

[opaque sun]

tremor wurm is a bad mob to use cardify as you farm many of them anyway

[cerulean yew]

I have 290k and i seem to be hitting him fine?

[tranquil surge]

on chaotic?

check in the afk gains

accuracy needed

for 100

[cerulean yew]

I don't believe you can do that in boss rooms

[tranquil surge]

oh right

[past gale]

no accuracy i think

[tranquil surge]

oh good 😄

yaaay

[cerulean yew]

was fairly easy - like went down in 1 minigame

[versed cypress]

you need, 7.5 acc for chaotic and 37.5 for nightmare, and 3750 for normal

[gilded orchid]

Lol lava really thought he was doing something by adding doot after 200 treats

Yeah bro cool story, just drop $500 and you'll get it

[dreamy merlin]

Better than nothing

[gilded orchid]

No it isn't lmao

It's reinforced gambling

[latent chasm]

it is tho

[gilded orchid]

He just doubled down

[dreamy merlin]

Some ppl spent 1k and got nothing

[vocal ibex]

Cry babies got what you wanted now your king doot at 200 candies

[cerulean yew]

cody if you want a damage benchmark - dam40

[gilded orchid]

Yeah he just doubled down on adding more gambling into the game

[cerulean yew]

Is it rotating?

[bright current]

how much USD is 200 pulls?

[gilded orchid]

Like 500 bro

[opaque sun]

525

[gilded orchid]

Lol

LMAO

[cerulean yew]

like i can't be patient for 200 weeks and get it? has said either way?

[gilded orchid]

525

HAHAHAHAAH

[bright current]

damn yea u right, so good

either 200 weeks

of spend $525 USDF

[gilded orchid]

787 AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS THANKS LAVA U FK

[opaque sun]

every batch, 525 tribute

[gilded orchid]

Was a fun game guys

Cyas later

[latent chasm]

bye wont be missed

[cerulean yew]

good by

[versed cypress]

cya tomorrow for more complaining kerrs

[cerulean yew]

anyone know on this?

[near summit]

🫡

[versed cypress]

seems to be the idea

[bright current]

damn when did so many people get onboard with doot

yall got us out gunned now

[opaque sun]

Know on what, either 200 weeks or 525$

[versed cypress]

so now we dont know about the rotations or how tht is going to work

[cerulean yew]

TopBird, neither - get both of those, rotations like is he making it so you basically have to spend in the 200 or you dont get?

[versed cypress]

we dont know anythin gabout the rotations

[opaque sun]

reword your english better

[cerulean yew]

I don't think i find it worth the $, but i feel more strongly negative about the gambling psych part if it is

creating the scarcity

[opaque sun]

Are you asking if the 200 guaranteed count would carry over to next batch?

[cerulean yew]

what is batch system, thats what i'm asking

is that a thing or a speculation

[opaque sun]

if anyone knows, like that means they are a cheater

[cerulean yew]

Ok - idk - you are the TOPbird

[versed cypress]

the gambling and honstly the current pity is still shit, but i guess most of us are tired to argue, so we will just play and see where the game goes,

[opaque sun]

lava mentioned in stream the companion pets will be in batches, and in game it literally says “companion batch 1”

[cerulean yew]

So i feel like i should truss, but Crystal seems to say its an unkown

[bright current]

he said he's be rotating them during the stream he had on the updates launch. its not speculation, but he might not go forward with it, but he probably will

[versed cypress]

because we know nothing, all we know is lava said they would rotate

thats as far as we know

[cerulean yew]

Thanks Trucido

[opaque sun]

And game literally says “batch 1”

[haughty path]

Hi mentioned it earlier in gen chat, the 10 week rotation isn't going to happen.

It will rotate, but not every 10 weeks

[opaque sun]

could be every month when lava needs to pay rent

[versed cypress]

with the currenty pity system geared towards giving you a doot, its likely doot is not going to rotate at all

[cerulean yew]

Ah, i like to think i pay attention, but def didnt see that

[bright current]

oh good, so he DOES intend to continue to scum the community

got it

[placid mural]

i dont know what other premium pet could give a buff as good as doots

[cerulean yew]

if he just phase in, meh

[opaque sun]

And if anyone can answer, its just lava or someone who haked the game to see whats lava planning to do

[bright current]

inb4 "nugget is now additive"

[errant sapphire]

if I prior to the update rolled 200+ companions and got a doot, if I roll one now will I get an extra doot?

[opaque sun]

if you have doot, lava went “you dont need that pity”

[bright current]

he said its retro active, but i have doot and my "pity" is att 0 still

[cerulean yew]

I have no idea how app store finance works - are there published benchmarks or any way to estimate how much brings in

[placid mural]

that would be good, but not doot level, since gaming doesnt give "game changing" buffs to the game,

[opaque sun]

You start at 0/200 if you have doot

[versed cypress]

because you HAVE doot

[bright current]

bruh. idc if i dont need it, gimme the fkn pity

[versed cypress]

the pity only works if you dont have the pet

[bright current]

thats so fuckin dumb

[opaque sun]

lava be like “sure no one needs a dupe doot that worth 2000 tradeable green gems”

[snow hamlet]

There’s a ton of potential doot level pets

[cerulean yew]

LOL at your nugget additive idea

[mint rover]

Does it matter what map you go on for crystal cooldown?

[opaque sun]

How considerate of lava

If you have doot, lava says “you are a loyal customer that deserves my middle finger”

[bright current]

i mean, kinda? there are better maps for crystal farming than others. but the actual functionality doesnt change

[opaque sun]

Btw getting doot from normal chances does not reset the pity meter

[bleak gazelle]

just pull first try, ez

[opaque sun]

So i have no idea why doot holders didnt get the pity retroactively

[strong nova]

what the quest reward?

daily key?

[bright current]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-christian-gif-25996870

[opaque sun]

10 keys, daily keys, and 42% dr trophy from chain of quests

[bleak gazelle]

or just be me and get slime 🙃

[versed cypress]

the tired mole quest??? some keys some perals, and the new BiS trophy

[strong nova]

oh trophy from there

[placid mural]

have a pic of the trophy?

[versed cypress]

no daily keys xDDD

[strong nova]

6m first quest seem need long day

[versed cypress]

you farm from mmobs

[strong nova]

wait, its per chara?????

oh wow

[versed cypress]

the quests are basicaly open the portals

[quasi galleon]

Same requirement as the portals

[strong nova]

bis trophy for everyone

[opaque sun]

no reason to farm prince trophy

[bright current]

they are best done afk, cuz the quest doesnt count MK for active

[strong nova]

yea i already unlock all of them

the portal

[opaque sun]

basically need to unlock them again

[strong nova]

need redo 6m

[opaque sun]

On afk

[strong nova]

what the second and third quest

[opaque sun]

first and second quest requires to afk as active only counts base kills like suggma

You can do active if you really want tho

[runic token]

stoked for w6 news

[bright current]

ill start saving now!

(the art did look cool tho)

[foggy briar]

just got bear on divinity, do I exchange snake for bear?

[strong nova]

depend what you want to do

[opaque sun]

It does what it says

So just choose that fits the role of the characters

[foggy briar]

Gonna continue with all my characters on divinity, or lab

I dont have much time to spend on the game right now so yea

[opaque sun]

Like snake doesn’t do anything obviously on a active heavy character for example

[strong nova]

i'll say progress w5 abit with bear, then back to divinity till goat, then tranqi

w5 till atom i'll say

[floral jackal]

Raise your hand if monk should be released for W6

[strong nova]

w78

[floral jackal]

Lol

[oak minnow]

I mean it wouldn't surprise me if the world has an east asian theme and monk gets added

[strong nova]

no more efaunt

[oak minnow]

||considering that it's leaked for wizard already anyways||

[quasi galleon]

What the heck did you do to that poor image?

[strong nova]

that screenshot from gif lel

lava gif new update

[latent chasm]

anyone try using the new stones?

[floral jackal]

This is so broken wtf

[heady scaffold]

not worth imo

[opaque sun]

around 68% not amazingly good from store stones

[floral jackal]

Yep

[flint shadow]

What are reqs to craft new boss gear?

[opaque sun]

need a higher success chance to beat the expected boost

[strong socket]

broken in a different way kek

[floral jackal]

And the weapons WHY

[heady scaffold]

average is lower than w5 stones, and w6 stones will either be normal and better, or also lose slot but better

[floral jackal]

Do you have to unlock from the merit shop

[strong nova]

is new weapon need 200hampter wp ?

im not finish hampter aaa

[ashen marsh]

how much was doot before update?

[low snow]

200 treats? Thats his idea of a pity system? How much is that in $$$

[strong nova]

0 if 200 weeks

[quasi galleon]

$350-400

[strong nova]

see you in 4 years

[low snow]

Rotation says no

[strong nova]

if rotate

the update say 'doot'

[random gulch]

Guys so howmuch needed to spend to get confirmed doot?

Asking for a friend

[quasi galleon]

I just said

[random gulch]

Ok i didnt read

Sorry

[floral jackal]

Bruh

[strong nova]

let see if lava edit this to 'highest pet available' real quick

[low snow]

Where the f is the "middle ground" mods were talking about. This is bullcrap

[floral jackal]

Hotair do you have the blueprint for the weapons

[quasi galleon]

Yes

[floral jackal]

Show me please

[random gulch]

So doot price is like steam deck

[quasi galleon]

[strong nova]

the igredient fist?

[latent chasm]

Guys if yall just wait 200 weeks you get it like calm down

for free

[strong socket]

helm is BiS for premiumify ngl 🤔

[quasi galleon]

It requires an item I like to think does not exist

[latent chasm]

[floral jackal]

Sick but a little hilarous how much materials does it require

[latent chasm]

how much does it require

[quasi galleon]

Nothing I can't handle 😛

[strong nova]

should be molten core + some kattle chaotic

[heady scaffold]

magma weapon, the teeth and a couple million mats i think it was

[floral jackal]

That's seems easy to do

[strong nova]

molten itself is

not that easy

[floral jackal]

Yep I want to die

The blueprint chance is so low

[latent chasm]

is all the blue prints from cattle weapons from merits?

[floral jackal]

Literally would take forever

[placid mural]

Imo allstat% and damage% is better than damage&respawn?

[strong nova]

20m

[floral jackal]

Nevermind

[versed cypress]

ES is going to get some workout xDDD

[strong socket]

dang, thats cheap

[heady scaffold]

imo yes

[floral jackal]

Bro got es to 294M damage

[near goblet]

Has anyon done the meth about how much whaling to get 200 pulls from level 1 treat?

[latent dragon]

other weapons like this too?

[quasi galleon]

No, the other weapons take real items

[heady scaffold]

the kattlekruk gear is a downgrade unless you specifically want dr

[versed cypress]

the stat% is better than just the dmg %

[floral jackal]

Are you serious

[versed cypress]

the weapons are an upgrade right sapp

[quasi galleon]

Yeah, they take actual existing items

[strong socket]

the pants are especially bad i think

[floral jackal]

Fuck

[quasi galleon]

Only the gloves require a mythological item that doesn't exist

[strong nova]

pant is 1 day if all chara farm it..

[serene forum]

So new boss is useless?

[lucid copper]

How does doot work with the lab divinity bonus where the bear lets you be connected in the lab and the geharut divinity if in lab

[patent moss]

starting to think the recipe doesn't exist in my game.... perhaps my RNG really sucks that much tho

[versed cypress]

come on hotair is not that bad... it only took me a day to get that blueprint xDDD

[steady turret]

Just me or is the kattlekruk quest not taking into account multikill? It seems that if I afk for a few minutes I get much more kills for the quest compared to being active

[versed cypress]

i got stupidly lucky on it

[heady scaffold]

wepons upgrade, new scarf upgrade, new trophy upgrade

[strong nova]

i prefer dr

[strong socket]

nonono i meant the new pants, stats-wise

[floral jackal]

Literally is lol

[heady scaffold]

gear downgrade, cape really meh

[quasi galleon]

Meanwhile I've done some W5 farming

[floral jackal]

I rather think elite classes than equipments

[near goblet]

sounds like a skill issue

[serene forum]

So new update useless?

[strong nova]

bis trophy

[gray pagoda]

How much health does Kruk have?

[quasi galleon]

depends on the difficulty

as with all bosses

[floral jackal]

Nah the world boss key to W6

[versed cypress]

100b. 10t 1Q respectively

[gray pagoda]

The normal difficulty

Oh shoot

[serene forum]

So its useless smh

[floral jackal]

Yep

[strong socket]

i hope lava redos some of these stats ngl

[heady scaffold]

@serene forum

[gray pagoda]

Looks like I got some grinding to do

[near goblet]

So that means w6 in liek 2 weeks

[serene forum]

I mean dr gear sounds good for dk pen and statue farminf rivht?

[placid mural]

can someone put a pic of the trophy up?

[quasi galleon]

"New boss is out, 9 new craftable items, multiple are BiS, plus more!"
"Update useless then?"

This guy

[floral jackal]

Yes

[strong nova]

bis for farm mob, just not skilling..

[floral jackal]

I have no idea why

He would take this long

[near goblet]

It makes more sense to have different stuff being BiS for skilling and mobbinh

[strong nova]

yea, some skilling need specific gear also

[zinc torrent]

Do I need to complete the new quest to get the new unlocks?

[heady scaffold]

could you go convince lava to add all stat back onto the gear

[steady turret]

You can get keys without doing the quest

[serene forum]

If people are saying the gear is a downgrade then it has tobe useless

[strong nova]

it great upgrade

nice update

[zinc torrent]

No I mean for the new patterns

[strong socket]

upgrade into downgrade, stonks

[quasi galleon]

I should have posted the pic like this, I guess

[steady turret]

Just... Kill the boss

[zinc torrent]

I did

[strong nova]

suggest on #1034916101160714371 make it question mark if not unlocked

[steady turret]

And it'll dropped eventually, it's a recipe with a chance %

[floral jackal]

Yeah I would agree like this

More

[zinc torrent]

So this isn't used?

[weary hinge]

guaranteed on 200 treats. man, still hard to get 😔

[quasi galleon]

Not yet

[zinc torrent]

ah

[quasi galleon]

Only 7 columns, 8 worlds

Makes sense to skip one

[floral jackal]

Agreeable

[strong nova]

w6 will need something to fill empty no job update

[floral jackal]

I need the rest of the elite class please lava (My 8,9 and 10th character would be for the new elite classes)

[dull parrot]

Is there any way to increase chances of getting a new species of plant in gaming other than just harvesting? I've been stuck at berry bush for weeks now

[strong nova]

so why mole helping kattle

[quasi galleon]

Just harvest low and often

Don't build up a higher %

[dull parrot]

OK thank you much

[floral jackal]

I would imagine taking a long time to get there

[strong nova]

i spend 3 weeks from start

no amazing alch

[floral jackal]

Oof

[floral jackal]

RIP

[strong nova]

but if only till mole, i guess 1 week

[floral jackal]

You know what I need to progress to diabolical set

[strong nova]

yea, just print starfire

[floral jackal]

Easy

[strong nova]

SB will get the rest work

turn into bar

[low snow]

This "pity" implementation is a joke and shows that lava does indeed not care abour non-whales. At all.

[placid mural]

uhhhh kattle nightmare is 1Q health?!?

[floral jackal]

Totally

[placid mural]

• currently licking lips at idea of trophy doubler on the kattle trophy *

[last willow]

pog

[spring yarrow]

I mean 100% after 200 pulls is still pretty p2w isnt it? Its not just me

[floral jackal]

And also nullo salt

[latent dragon]

stats?

[floral jackal]

Pog

[low snow]

It is.

[last willow]

pog

[floral jackal]

The pendant looks sick

[low snow]

Non or low spenders are 100% still gated. He just changed the price tag from ??? To 400. Sure who needs rent

[near goblet]

Wdym, its just a wait 200weeks which is pretty sure longer then this game lasted yet! And that is assuming pity doesnt reset at rotations but I can imagine that with lavq yet

[floral jackal]

Don't use the upgrade stone it's fairly useless

[low snow]

My negative and 1 star reviews stay

[spring yarrow]

We just need to wait 4 years 🙂

[ashen marsh]

what build do you guys recommend for frigid? I keep following the meta and lose at wave 18 lol

[strong nova]

frigid?

[sharp vine]

Does kattlekruk do anything during the fight? Haven't gone in on higher than normal yet and just one shot him

[spring yarrow]

You following the google doc?

[floral jackal]

The snowman td

[ashen marsh]

yeah this one

[strong nova]

need highher tower lvl

[strong socket]

hes a literal sponge, thats the fight

[spring yarrow]

are your tower levels the recommend levels?

[strong nova]

that first difficulty spike

[ashen marsh]

all my towers are the required level lol

[spring yarrow]

Try following along with the video

[ashen marsh]

maybe I should put two krakens?

[spring yarrow]

also worship cards, high enough hunter, etc

starting worship points etc

[vapid lava]

It looks like the cost to craft the magma legs was dropped to 1m cheesy crumbs instead of 10m

[near goblet]

What disgusts me the most is that he really just said he kept the balance for all 3 years now and been fun for everyone, I dont remember anything 100% pay walled before but sure I Guess

[strong nova]

really ??

[ashen marsh]

should i max this

[strong socket]

just checked

its 1mil

[placid mural]

people got up in arms about W3 gem shop being pay wall'd

[near goblet]

For TD yes

[strong nova]

o yea nerfed

good pant for everyone

[sharp vine]

Use that build a bit more as a guideline and less as a must-do. Especially if say your boulders/parties are significantly better and cheaper than the lightning towers just buy more of those for better effect. And yeah more krakens is often good. But really Frigid kinda sucks til you get void anyway and can prevent a lot of the stunning and teleport issues

[floral jackal]

Are you fucking kidding me

[strong nova]

you have void?

[ashen marsh]

I got void today! it's lvl 1 should I put void at the front?

yes the stunning issues is what screws me over

[strong nova]

poison around 20-30?

[ashen marsh]

noo poison so low.

[floral jackal]

Front and put frost after that

[sharp vine]

100%. And also to avoid stunning problems you can upgrade your Frozone a bit more early to increase the slow amount and space your boulders a liiiittle bit so you dont stun 2 at once as often

[near goblet]

But atleast you were able to get blue gems somehow and atleast get stuff

Well I wasnt there so im dont have much idea about the f2p gem situation 🤷

[low snow]

He didnt address any of the system's problems. This pity is just a token. Basically worthless for players.

He doesnt care abour players. He wants that sweet sweet cash.

[ashen marsh]

okay so void then frost.

[ashen marsh]

and spread the boulders right?

[near goblet]

Just cheat in the pet buffs

[floral jackal]

Yep

[placid mural]

i swear some people in this discord would spit at a check for $1000 because other people are millionares

[quasi galleon]

Only failed 1 slot 😄

[sharp vine]

Not like a lot alot but a couple pixels and not snapped directly on top of each other

[floral jackal]

Not bad

Actually

[ashen marsh]

got it got it

ty ty

i use this when summoning

[vapid lava]

Surely with your stats that guy could be higher level. I only have 12x xp multiplier and my beginner guy is 350. Do you just keep him permanently in the lab?

[primal bison]

Is the new gear better than magma gear or is it more just for drop rate?

[quasi galleon]

Well sure, if I had a valid reason to take him out of lab.

[sharp vine]

No passive bonus from rift yet?

[ashen marsh]

not yet.

I'm still a noob actually. got like 3 months playing the game

[quasi galleon]

Taking him out of Lab is just always the wrong decision, as my other characters are worth more being the ones not in lab

[tranquil surge]

correct me if im wrong

but does buying all four golden sprinklers

[near goblet]

No

[tranquil surge]

mean u never run out of water?

[quasi galleon]

no

[placid mural]

no

[strong socket]

craft the new weapons
ignore the armors

[tranquil surge]

my maths aint mathing

cause 30% times 1.5 every time stacks

[near goblet]

Its just lava Descriptions

[floral jackal]

NO

[tranquil surge]

ive been scammed

💔

[ashen marsh]

should i also max this for TD

[serene forum]

Is pen farming worth it at only 100 pens eveey 24 hours? How do i get more

[vapid lava]

I also thought the same thing

[tranquil surge]

so whats the actual maths then

because wot

[serene forum]

Im using dk with 6.14 dr and all crystal cards and choco chip

Why am i only getting 100 pens 24 hour at snel?

[quasi galleon]

Pens?

[serene forum]

Yes

[near goblet]

I have no idea how is it 1.5x though
Even if its 1.5x every upgrade, +15% every upgrade it still would end up As more than 100%

[serene forum]

Not understanding why im only getting 100 a day

[quasi galleon]

Well for one thing, Snelbies are not the best spot to farm

never have been

[near goblet]

Good question

[serene forum]

I tried w3 bloodbones and it was only slightly above 100

[serene forum]

^

[quasi galleon]

No it wouldn't. 30% for the first, +15% each for the other 3 = 75%

[near goblet]

But theres like 5 upgrades

[quasi galleon]

There's 4 total purchases

base 30% and 3x 1.5 bonus

[quasi galleon]

4/4

[placid mural]

that means 4x 15% added to the 30% which means a total of 90% chance to not use water

[quasi galleon]

No, 3x

[placid mural]

sorry yeah

3x 15%

[quasi galleon]

"Each additional purchase" lol

[placid mural]

so 75% chance to not use water

[quasi galleon]

If it was multiplicative, it'd be a bit OP

So I think the additionals are additive

[serene forum]

Feel like my dr or something is severely lacking. How are you guys getting tens of thousands of pens? Wtf. Is it multikill?

Luck bubble?

[near goblet]

Atleast the Description would make more sense

[serene forum]

What is your dr?

Damage?

[tranquil surge]

it doesnt say 15%

it says 1.5

which is 50%

well actually

150%

[serene forum]

I definitely cant imagine going from 100 pens a day to thousands unless im missing something

[tranquil surge]

it should read to say 15% every extra

[quasi galleon]

Who said thousands per day?

[tranquil surge]

which does make sense

or x1.15

either or works

[quasi galleon]

3 additional at 1.5x. So 1.5x, 2.0x, 2.5x

[vapid lava]

You won't get thousands per day. I get 1-200 per 8 hours with 10x drop rate and cookie on bubo at oranges.

[quasi galleon]

30% x 2.5 = 75%

[ashen marsh]

god frigid sucks

[balmy solstice]

the new keychains worth it?

[quasi galleon]

Not fully sure tbh

Could be for Gmush according to some

[modern plaza]

gosh imagine w8 gear ❤️

[balmy solstice]

ring over that then?

[tranquil surge]

right that does make sense

but its still worded wrong lol

description needs changed

[placid mural]

i wish there was a W1 ring

[tranquil surge]

because the way it looks it looks like it stacks by x1.5 each time

[zealous niche]

There is one that rotates through

[quasi galleon]

There are only W2-4 rings

[modern plaza]

does gaming time proc helps snail mail?

[quasi galleon]

no

[placid mural]

sadly no

[modern plaza]

doot sucks then 😄

[zealous niche]

I swear I saw a W1 ring

[quasi galleon]

if it and chemical did, I wouldn't be as distraught over losing my level 12 snail

[zealous niche]

😦

[placid mural]

lol snail would be massively OP if it did though

[near goblet]

Snail resetting is still one of The dumbest thing in this game

[placid mural]

maybe if he just downgraded 1 level

[modern plaza]

snail already massively OP lol

[placid mural]

lol new record on orb, i just got 752 on orb in OJ bay

[modern plaza]

wtfff

[near goblet]

1k when

[placid mural]

previous record was 722

[quasi galleon]

One day I'll set a big record lol

[tranquil surge]

nfw

just got doot ❤️

[proud olive]

how to get the new trophy?

[strong pendant]

u guys ready for your guaranteed doot!!!!! WOAWO

[quasi galleon]

😮

[tranquil surge]

actual deadset

[quasi galleon]

I'm envious

[placid mural]

yeah doot is such a blessing to have

[tranquil surge]

soon as i brought the bigboi pack

[strong pendant]

lets go four yearsss!!!

[tranquil surge]

i got it on first roll

[placid mural]

the $45 pack?

[tranquil surge]

yer

still have 3900 of those gems now

lmao

[placid mural]

was that on top of the $20 that had the wings?

[tranquil surge]

yeah bought that about a week ago

and 1 of the 1800 gem ones a week ago too

[placid mural]

well save the gems for next rotation

[tranquil surge]

im on t4 treat

[quasi galleon]

Damn

Could not be me

[tranquil surge]

thats spoon as hell

[placid mural]

do you have slug and sheep?

[tranquil surge]

i dont even have the gods yet

nah but i dont know if i roll for em ay

[burnt gale]

XD

[tranquil surge]

i dont think id use the bank one as much as id like

[placid mural]

slug is honestly super huge

[quasi galleon]

bank one is huge for worship

[proud olive]

how to get the new trophy?

[tranquil surge]

true actually

[quasi galleon]

read the update info

[placid mural]

slug made a bigger difference for my samples than doot did

[modern plaza]

it's basically free

[placid mural]

just going to throw this out there, i bet Kattlekruk divinity gets added in the next week or two

[wheat kiln]

New update

Holly fuck

Nice

[modern plaza]

new gear is way too stronk

[placid mural]

Feelsgoodman

[serene forum]

P2w?

[sharp vine]

What are each of their effects? I only have sailing speed from an event card pack

[modern plaza]

plz lend ty

[serene forum]

Bro how did you farm those cards

Unless you have insane w5 dr

[ashen marsh]

does void have lvl up A/B?

[tranquil surge]

ok now im tier 5 treat

and it says max tier

[sharp vine]

Yeah, increased damage for all towers

[placid mural]

yes i have spent money on this game, and yes i bought several of the 5 star cardifiers because like hell am i going to farm chaotic and nightmare kattle for thousands of cards

[tranquil surge]

so maybe somethings changed or>

[runic token]

kattlecruk boss fight is lame as hell lmao

[sharp vine]

Replied to the wrong dude homie

[ebon thunder]

How does one get the 5 star cards? Can I do that only with the cardifier?

[runic token]

talk about lying there like a dead fish

[placid mural]

whoops lol

[placid mural]

have to unlock 5 star cards in rift

[tranquil surge]

dayum.....

[placid mural]

or buy the cardifier

[tranquil surge]

just got a 2nd doot.

ok didnt know that was possible

[placid mural]

keep for trading lawl

[placid mural]

monster exp by 48% and money from monsters by 108%

[ebon thunder]

How to access the rift?

[quasi galleon]

W4

[placid mural]

w4

[tender rampart]

#new-updates⭐ message
Are these weapons obtainable yet?

[placid mural]

yes they are

[ashen marsh]

cant believe im doing better with my ES than hunter on frigid rn

[ebon thunder]

Tq

[split sequoia]

so what the best way to farm w5 keys? dk on wurms?
or es?

[spice void]

gross

[quasi galleon]

Likely ES

[placid mural]

i had my Vman on wurms before update came out and logged on to him looting 19 keys lol

[weary hinge]

looks like imma need arctis more than efant god now, to progress w5

[quasi galleon]

Succeeded 5/6, but that's better than 6/6 W5 stones

So still a win

[flint shadow]

What do you need to craft the new eq?

[placid mural]

1 doot per weapon

plus the T5 weapon and 5000 hampters

[runic token]

thats all?

[placid mural]

oh and 5000 orange juices

[regal cloak]

hey guys, i keep dying on big worms' last map w5 even with 5 food, any idea why?

[runic token]

they're strong

[quasi galleon]

turn off prayer with -def

[tranquil surge]

wait so divinities

being all god links?

[modern plaza]

crystals?

[tranquil surge]

for doots bonus

[tough tusk]

no def and no hp

[regal cloak]

youre right, -40% def

[covert sphinx]

worth using kattlekruk stones on your first set of kattlekruk armor?

[quasi galleon]

I did, no regrets

[regal cloak]

how long did it take you to farm mats?

for magma

[quasi galleon]

I didn't have to lol

[regal cloak]

sheeeesh

[hollow wasp]

New eq? Where what

[modern plaza]

farmer genes detected

[quasi galleon]

If I can get a 15k GT, getting a couple mats isn't too hard 😛

[flint shadow]

I meant the new boss stuff

[opaque sun]

basically just need kill boss and do merits, like any other boss gears

[hollow wasp]

Ye just saw patch notes

[dapper prism]

So who you all focusing on to unlock boss? Nobody besides vman will really benefit properly doing him, right?

[heady scaffold]

you need all 10 there for task

[lean thistle]

how does this work?

[dapper prism]

open gem shop or reload map for artifact values to update

[lean thistle]

ok ty it works now

[runic token]

why is kattlecruk so underwhelming compared to the previous 4 bosses?

[dapper prism]

Probably because you had a ton of extra time to inflate your stats

[ashen marsh]

wow I made it a lot further with ES. with hunter my max was wave 18

[runic token]

I meant the graphics sorry

[dapper prism]

oh no clue, havn't been there

[runic token]

he's tiny, and just looks like a statue

[dapper prism]

Yeh no, then you just did something wrong.

[runic token]

compared to the gargantuan size of the rest with cool mechanics

[opaque sun]

kattle is just a healing totem fight

[dapper prism]

So, just enter, nothing to know/think about?

Roughly what dmg is needed for each mode?

[opaque sun]

moles approaches slowly from both sides to heal kattle. Period

[twilit goblet]

is it worth starting on chow like this or should i just go cook and level bb up after before starting chow

[naive crest]

If you can <5 shot moles you can do kattle

[ashen marsh]

should I let it reset or should I choose this captain for my boat?

[quasi galleon]

1 captain is better than 0 captain

[ashen marsh]

do you guys know how this captain with the hat shows up?

all my other ones just have bandanas

[dapper prism]

rng

[noble mesa]

Das someone gat the new boss wepona/gear?

[dapper prism]

May be helpful looking at the wiki for a little xD

[ashen marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-jake-giggle-gif-18585225

[dapper prism]

Yay 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/lRTTP9d.png

https://i.imgur.com/L10RG3C.png

https://i.imgur.com/FYBcZIj.png

Big jump 😄 (From MSA Big Bits Superbits unlock, added text incase someone ever needs to find this)

Lol, when it took around 4 days to get 5Q and now it takes a few minutes

[quasi galleon]

Now you're basically where I am since I lost my snail lol

(I was like 550QQ before losing it, this was days ago)

[dapper prism]

Yeh mine is at 7 atm, didnt dare to upgrade it:
https://i.imgur.com/bvIaR1f.png

[quasi galleon]

I was level 12

It was painful

[dapper prism]

Thats rough

I'm just happy with msa superbits now, still need to do 2 more TD's though so my multi may still go up a little

[dapper prism]

Snail is like the worst/best thing in gaming..

[runic token]

I attempted nightmare kattlekruk on dk with 10000M dmg and it's going hella slow 😅

[quasi galleon]

Currently attempting with Vman

this is not going well

[dapper prism]

why not just say 10b o.o

[runic token]

I thought about how to say it properly and didn't know 😦

[dapper prism]

but so nightmare works with that dmg*, just slow?

[quasi galleon]

100b on my vman atm and it's not gonna happen

[runic token]

yeah its gonna succeed eventually, just gonna take an hour maybe

[honest timber]

What map do people use for SB pirate mob stacking?

[quasi galleon]

Citringes

[runic token]

debating whether I should cancel it and go fix my dmg, pretty sure I can get up to 30B or so. I just would hate to have wasted the 70keys

[quasi galleon]

Try just changing cards and starsigns?

[runic token]

did that already

need to fix my gear and chips

[quasi galleon]

I had hoped this would be enough... nope!

[runic token]

curious why you're doing it on vman?

[quasi galleon]

task

[runic token]

oh not looking forward to that one then

im on nightmare task

[quasi galleon]

nightmare on all 10 characters in order

[runic token]

ewwww

[fallen anvil]

...

[quasi galleon]

It's how you unlock the most ridiculously good necklace in the game

[runic token]

damn howd you farm so many keys to get up to your 6th or so character on nightmare?

[quasi galleon]

Lots of killing

[dapper prism]

also, vman would have best DR

[fallen anvil]

lots of old exploit ^^

[quasi galleon]

No?

[fallen anvil]

u know it i know it we know it , let's gow

[runic token]

i dont know it

[quasi galleon]

What are you on about?

[severe maple]

guess some people are gonna have King Doot, although can someone work out how much green gems is required for 200 treats?

[quasi galleon]

About $350-400 USD worth

[weary hinge]

at most 400$

[dapper prism]

Soounds like around ~500 moniessss

[plush gale]

200 treats? Isn't that like 4 years if you're f2p?

[dapper prism]

idk someone was at 400ish and had 177 earlier

[quasi galleon]

Due to lower tiers and recyling

[zealous niche]

A lot. You hit tier five in 40ish, so 160 are 250 each

[severe maple]

BB got a nice buff, big aoe doesnt remove inflame anymore

[weary hinge]

still comes to luck

[ashen marsh]

are these better than chizoar?

[dapper prism]

No

[zealous niche]

The more higher tier rolls, the better the recycle

[dapper prism]

Just look at its stats 👀

[zealous niche]

Slug and ram are worth 150 each, vs 10 for a bean

[dapper prism]

Yess, recycle doot for an easy 2k gems! might get lucky and get a doot!

[quasi galleon]

Yeah, this boss fight is a loss of keys for me :/

[dapper prism]

Slug is 450
Ram and crystal are 150 btw

Different tiers

[zealous niche]

Oh, got my tiers mixed up

[dapper prism]

Either way, just recycle doots to get more gems for more doots! (maybe, i don't recommend this)

[ashen marsh]

the green weapons are worth unlocking right?

[weary hinge]

ye

[quasi galleon]

You unlock everything

[weary hinge]

its a must

[quasi galleon]

but yes, weapons are a priority

[dapper prism]

Sorry but some of those questions should be known by like.. world 3 already 👀

[raven fog]

Can the reasone of me getting bad portal kills id using the fr prayer

[dapper prism]

Is a better weapon better?

[ashen marsh]

sowwy

I drink too much alcohol and I have a durpy brain.

[dapper prism]

not gud

[raven fog]

I mean portal speed run

[dapper prism]

what was the fr prayer?

[stiff prairie]

Good question.

[dapper prism]

only thing i can guess is fibers of absence?

[stiff prairie]

No other prayer has an f so probably

[dapper prism]

If so, then yeh. That mk won't help as much when you lose half your dmg. Need dmg, that MK buff is op op from vman talent*

[ashen marsh]

should I use this for killing stuff in w2 so I can get to 1m for vman?

I just unlocked it.

[tall blade]

Which cards good for Divinity?

[ashen marsh]

biggs

[bright current]

Doot

[raven fog]

Dr

[dapper prism]

It's never a Yes or no, too many variables. You should check afk info and just test it. sometimes you increase kph and sometimes you lose kph with it

[raven fog]

The midas

[dapper prism]

Yes, 100% yes when mobs have 1000% hp more, then your mk/tier stuff gets messed up by a few tiers at least

[raven fog]

No wonder

Bow i want to know what else am i missing

Besides forgetting to put points on Tab 2

[ashen marsh]

ahh got it

[raven fog]

I was following the guied in tips and tricks

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1089741661225103470/1109495194027573308/w0ls0vi1uw0b1.png

[raven fog]

Yah i follow this and ditched everything else

[raven fog]

Btw does the base multikill rlly matter

Should i farm obals ?

[dapper prism]

Does MK work for kuttle quest while online or is it like zone1 quest where it doesnt work online but works offline?

[gentle inlet]

Aim for troll set

[dapper prism]

Dmg may help you a bunch more than regular base MK, since you're getting like 1.5k-2k MK/tier from your 20s buff either way. Having PO box mana for cdr helps and stuff like that too.

[spice void]

base multi is way higher priority than multi, as each time you increase the damage tier you get x2 base multikill

or whatever your damage teir modifier is

[dapper prism]

yeh, hitting new tiers from dmg >

[dapper prism]

I feel like. It's basically just chiz and then you get to magma, like if/when you can afford troll it's super easy to get to magma at that point

[spice void]

material costs for magma is a good cap to it

[gentle inlet]

Yup the nullo salt farm takes wayyyy too long

[dapper prism]

but troll is strongly salt gated (if you rushed w5) and by the time you have the salt, you should have the dmg to get magma imo

[raven fog]

Btw why is it much harder to farm high luck

I have my es woth 12k wisdom and my vman with 3k luck

[brittle kite]

do I need to finish the quest to have a chance to kill the boss?

[raven fog]

No u can kill him

[brittle kite]

but I can’t get in the cave

[dapper prism]

Probably because vman has other talents that affect it's dmg, plus the last bubbles that are class specific affect vman (jman+) all too

https://i.imgur.com/yPreaSD.png

So he has more to scale off of

[covert sphinx]

does all the armor drop ur dmg?

[gentle inlet]

The wiki hasn't been yet updated, so what are the new items ?

[dapper prism]

It is

[covert sphinx]

feels like red armor gives more dmg than kattlekruk

[dapper prism]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Kattlecruk#Nightmare_Difficulty-0

[gentle inlet]

Oh nice

[strong socket]

wiki has all the new stuff, just gotta find it

[dense turtle]

guess its time to take the lucky lad filter out

[quasi galleon]

I FUCKING DID IT!

I didn't give up, I changed my strat

And I suffered

But I did it!

[dense turtle]

Isnt mob respawn useless for active farming on all classes with active respawn mechanics?

[raven fog]

This effects vman nice

My dmg is still 1 bill on him

[bright current]

pretty much, yea

[reef pilot]

lol, Persephones Bouquet now trash

[raven fog]

Great i oke shot him idk if he has any ability

[naive wedge]

What a lad

[quasi galleon]

We obviously didn't do the same fight

[dapper prism]

gz, hm dmg?

[dense turtle]

1 quadrillion health definitely takes a while ^^

how do you guys have that many keys already?

[frigid acorn]

farm socks

[dense turtle]

i do too, with 12x DR

[frigid acorn]

with ES ?

[dense turtle]

yes

[frigid acorn]

well thats all to do tho

[dapper prism]

DR is one thing, also comes down to your dmg for wormhole kills

[dense turtle]

i started 2.5 hours ago. i have maybe 30 keys

[dapper prism]

lol?

[dense turtle]

60 billion dmg

[frigid acorn]

i got 50+ key an hour

[dapper prism]

9.5x DR
On bubo i've even gotten ~100 keys in like 3-4h (at 52b dmg)

[dense turtle]

mmhh

[frigid acorn]

more damage

[dense turtle]

yeah well ^^ you have 10x my dmg

[iron citrus]

Wow 200 rolls before don't doot I'm only 44 in can't afford a doot then 😦

[dense turtle]

and 9k more wisdom

can you cry in endgame like the rest please, this is the only chat where people are not constantly complaining 😦

[ember abyss]

On iOS and all of my companions I got from the web version have just disappeared?

[frigid acorn]

10x damage doesnt do much since wormhole scale so much , i can only do 10 more wormhole kills than yours

[iron citrus]

Not complaining. I'm welcome to talk about anything w5 in w5 group, and since doot gives w5 content... guess what.

[dense turtle]

i am just too far behind on alchemy bubbles with only 12k wisdom.

the new armor also doesnt seem too good for active farming since you lose all stat

[frigid acorn]

my int bubble only 2k , not pretty much as you think

[weary hinge]

i only have 912 wis bubble, im way way far behind than you guys are. what am i doing with my game

[dense turtle]

mines at 300 ^^

but it doesnt really matter, not trying to min max

i can clear all the content easily

maybe not as efficient, but then too efficient makes it less fun when you just steamroll all the content in my opinion

[sudden badger]

so how we feeling about this new doot change?

[weary hinge]

still not good for f2p.

[sudden badger]

fair, im glad he at the very least did what we all were screaming for and made a pity drop

[dapper prism]

Does MK work for kuttle quest while online or is it like zone1 quest where it doesnt work online but works offline?

[weary hinge]

dude the pity is kinda useless

[sudden badger]

coulda been lower than 200 but at least it's tehre now

[heavy yoke]

Only 5 years to get it, since the 200 start counting once you reach tier 5

[weary hinge]

oh.

that makes it worse.

[heavy yoke]

So it's actually like 250

[sudden badger]

wait what

why do that tho

[dense turtle]

it doesnt

starts from the beginning....

[sudden badger]

oh

[dapper prism]

At the same time, sorry but if you're willing to play a game for years but not dish out like 20 bucks or something for a game itself then it's also a bit eh

[frigid acorn]

1 active kill count 1 kill

[heavy yoke]

Dish out 20 bucks and you have like 5% chance if you buy pack, then it's worse chance per dollar

[raven vale]

Got the pack and a 4100 green gem. Nada. Another $2000NZD to go

[zinc torrent]

hello

does the drone collect shinies ?

[raven vale]

the highest green gem pack is $85NZD

[heavy yoke]

Yes

[weary hinge]

yes

[zinc torrent]

nice

[obsidian flicker]

So 200 draws is what 200 weeks or a whole lot of money still right?

[raven vale]

yes