lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[deep lodge]

You can reset using this, but you only get one for free

[sick sentinel]

mini bosses use dk tho

stack orb a bit

[atomic kiln]

I got 879 candies from 267

[sick sentinel]

world bosses vman

[round elk]

yeah I just did and got 450 keys

[hollow wasp]

I have 5 of these in my storage. So I can use my points on mining

[deep lodge]

Sure, then. They quickly become useless

[hollow wasp]

KK ty

[steady token]

👀 still having journeyman in w5

[atomic kiln]

Matt, remember to buy the backpacks, they are 3 on daily so u can convert them to eyes and spend them on doot

[deep lodge]

The laziness is here as well

[visual lava]

spend them on doot?

[deep lodge]

biggie

[visual lava]

that's what I thought

[round elk]

I just used 4k ballons I´m exhausted for a week

[visual lava]

wait IE hasn't been updated for companions?

[deep lodge]

Sludger is on strike

[visual lava]

understandable

unfathomably based of them

[rustic garnet]

Any idea why my Pen generation on Bloodbane isn't great? I'm getting orb stacks of 555.... I have 10.88 base DR.... should be good, no?

[deep lodge]

Low crystal chance?

[rustic garnet]

1 in 39

[deep lodge]

Chocolatey chip?

[rustic garnet]

yep

[deep lodge]

Should be good then

How many you get an hour?

[rustic garnet]

143 in 3 hours

[strong nova]

i rather use buo if pen

[rustic garnet]

feels way low

bubo isn't better for pens?

[deep lodge]

Feels a tad low yes, but not that low

[rustic garnet]

just had a 580 stack on orb

[atomic kiln]

Toolbox is

[strong nova]

well, since pen not only from crystal, more mob net you more pen, maybe just low mob kill on blodborne

[atomic kiln]

Based on dr to multi them

[deep lodge]

I mean, with 580 orb i'm pretty sure he's killing plenty

I think I was getting around 60 pens an hour with 11.2DR~, so 143 in 3h might just be a little unlucky

[modern plaza]

wtf i had a dream about seeing patch notes having a message from lava 😦

[rustic garnet]

I just saw someone landing 131 pens an hour

and his orb was smaller than mine....

[deep lodge]

Really? Damn

[rustic garnet]

on BB

[sick sentinel]

bb as in blood berserker? or bubo

[rustic garnet]

sorry

DK

on Bloodbornes

BB is the mob

[sick sentinel]

what was the crystal chance and drop rate

[rustic garnet]

I don't know what his was

DR in the 11s

and CC probably 1/30

[sick sentinel]

thats the big difference

[rustic garnet]

I just don't know, is 1/30 v 1/39 really triple the pens?

what is the big difference? My DR is 10.88

[nimble yarrow]

What are the best maps on each world to farm CC on?

[sick sentinel]

crystal chance

they probably get more crystals at higher orb counts

[rustic garnet]

is 1/30 v 1/39 really triple pens though?

[sick sentinel]

so more pens

[visual lava]

getting 25% more crystals, getting the chance to spawn another from those with choco

[rustic garnet]

Like, 1/4 v 1/3 shouldn't be double or triple pens

[sick sentinel]

idk what the normal rates are

[visual lava]

yeah dropping the spawn chance is massive

[rustic garnet]

not triple though

the math doesn't add up

comparing here

[deep lodge]

Dude may have exaggerated his "1h" a bit also

[visual lava]

more mobs = more orb

[rustic garnet]

my orb is bigger

[sick sentinel]

yeah i dont even know what i used to get for pens

[rustic garnet]

as I just said, I am getting bigger orbs

[sick sentinel]

ppl tell lies, who knows

[visual lava]

what?

[rustic garnet]

he did a screen cap of his orb

[visual lava]

lying on the interner?

no

[sick sentinel]

did he do a video of his pen gain?

[visual lava]

but yeah people lie about gains on this server quite often

[rustic garnet]

he is someone who's here a lot and doesn't typically tell porky pies

[visual lava]

well not lie per say, but exasperate

[deep lodge]

Last time I was arguing about DR and rng with someone, I was told the game sometimes lags out during RNG routine and spat 4 rare drops instead of one. Might be happening to him often. (Never saw it myself tho)

[sick sentinel]

well thats what dk orb does anyway

[untold arch]

what

first time i have heard of that at least

[visual lava]

and if you do the up up down down left right left right select start you get a free doot

[deep lodge]

Yeah that was the same for me last time, and I i'm not really convinced.

[rustic garnet]

I'd expect 1/30 CC to give roughly 25% more pens

• or minus a few at the high DR

[visual lava]

dont listen to people on this server about very specific things, most don't know jack shit about this game

[rustic garnet]

my only question is... does 10.88 versus 11 DR have a major change in drop results?

[deep lodge]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[restive aspen]

Don't think so. Dr might be on a .5 basis though it may

[untold arch]

pretty sure that doesn’t happen

[visual lava]

shouldnt because usually for drops it's 0,75 or 0,5 that make or break after first DR

[sick sentinel]

just get your crystal chance up then compare

[rustic garnet]

I can't get the second card multiplier

[sick sentinel]

then dont worry about it lol

[untold arch]

id have to revisit the rng discussions tho lol, you can sort of track the rng in the game

[sick sentinel]

you cant compare rly if you dont have teh same stuff

[untold arch]

for what specifically?

[rustic garnet]

pen farming on DK

Circ, I think there is something to consider here -- simply because it's such a wide gap with a small difference

[untold arch]

so it would hit the rare loot table for crystals

[rustic garnet]

does 11 have a major change?

[untold arch]

its loot tables are 1 in 1, 1 in 2, and 1 in 3 iirc?

[zinc torrent]

I can't get rid of the things, farming sounds like more hell lol

For the slab do I have to craft everything individually or just the hightest tier helmet for example

[deep lodge]

Everything individually

[zinc torrent]

Rip

[rustic garnet]

the only 'retro' slab item is from dungeons

[deep lodge]

Only thing that get "the higest tier" are dungeon weapons

[rustic garnet]

Can anyone see how I can squeeze .12 DR out of my DK?
https://naterade.idleonefficiency.com/ Natermine

[untold arch]

ok 1.67, 1 in 2, and 1 in 2.5

[rustic garnet]

And Pen is in 1 in 2 followed by 1 in 12

sorry, 1 in 167

1 in 2, 1 in 167, 1 in 12

and with 550 DR orb, I'm hitting 16x DR near the end

[empty glade]

Thoughts about making 7th 8th 9th and 10th characters into vmen?

[rustic garnet]

terrible

[vagrant mountain]

you must really like skilling

[rustic garnet]

nearly pointless

[sick sentinel]

you could juice your midas prayer some more

[empty glade]

So only 1 vman?

[sick sentinel]

get some more dune souls

[untold arch]

you get an extra roll on one drop table, which isnt that major, should be like <10% more pens

oh yeah orb multiplies all that, but still should be like <10% more might be missing something

[vagrant mountain]

you forgot the ligma

[deep lodge]

You could get a few thousand plunderous mob kills + get archlord of the pirate SB talent to 245

Also, why on earth do you have 4 warriors

[vagrant mountain]

4 squire for epic constructions gainz

[empty glade]

Ligma balls

[vagrant mountain]

that's my line

[empty glade]

Too slow

[vagrant mountain]

imagine dragons

imagine dragon these nuts across your face

[steady token]

max Midas Minded

I have 110 waves in Wakawaka War too. it should be easy to max it

[deep lodge]

I think i'm blind, but where is DR shown on IE?

[steady token]

use this when worshipping

[compact temple]

is there a similar screenshot to this for trapping?

[steady token]

I'm not the creator, just save them from other channel

[strong pendant]

Hey is there any calculator for Perfect Trade Deal with blobby g?

[round elk]

should I upgrade chizoar scarf with mistery stones? or just normal stones for stats?

[deep lodge]

Normal W5 stones. What would you hope to get from the mystery stones? Weapon power?

Or a chance at 2 extra main stat (incredibly unlikely)

[round elk]

I assume you can´t get more mob respawn?

[deep lodge]

Don't think so, but might be wrong

[signal osprey]

No you cant and even if you could it'd still be worse than the dungeon neck for afk

And for active respawn is useless

[round elk]

true that

[runic girder]

Can you get ancient/eldritch without having unlocked/ancientfied all previous artifacts from that island?

[deep lodge]

For vman it's not bad tho

[deep lodge]

You just need the ancient of that artifact for a chance at eldritch

[runic girder]

So you could have an eldritch artifact before even having unlocked the 2nd or 3rd artifact from that island

[deep lodge]

Yes, it happens. Rather rare tho

[runic girder]

Noted, ty

[hollow wasp]

Idk what I should do active in this game rn. I have 8 chars in Divinity for baer and my ES is outside could do stuff. But without the 2x lab bonus is kinda useless push with him

[deep lodge]

Farm green stacks

[narrow cloak]

If i have 2 es the divinity xp talent should be leveled only on one of them? Looks like they don't stack

[vagrant mountain]

correct, one should max divinity gain, the other should max portal bonus and family talent

[placid mural]

How does a given skill level play into skill efficiency?

[vagrant mountain]

skill level just lets you use higher level tools for the most part

[placid mural]

I thought there was an actual increase in base efficiency though?

[narrow cloak]

Does it matter which es?

[deep lodge]

You get a tiny teeny increase, but it's kinda useless

[vagrant mountain]

your highest level one should max family talent

your portal kc is same on both

[placid mural]

So as long as you can use two or five tools, it doesn't really matter to grind out levels

Tear five

Tier five

Stupid voice to text

[deep lodge]

You use voice to text to chat on discord? Damn

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, I want to say 70% of your efficiency comes from outside sources anyway

[placid mural]

Only when i'm driving

[vagrant mountain]

don't die homie, eyes on the road

[placid mural]

Hence the voice to text

[deep lodge]

"It helps me not fall asleep"

[hollow wasp]

I think is not worth for me atm. First I have no bonus for that second It would take to long

[deep lodge]

Then, farm pop obols

[hollow wasp]

How? pop are for drops?

[vagrant mountain]

pop obol is love pop obol is life

[deep lodge]

Yes, pop obols for round obols (gigafrog) and dice obols for everything else (W2)

[hollow wasp]

So I active at giga frogs?

Do I need anything for that?

[deep lodge]

ES, high portal talent, high damage, high drop rate

Should be about it

[hollow wasp]

I have the portal talent to 30 atm. Bcs w5 is hard

Dmg is max 3.15m drop is 3x

[deep lodge]

Oof yeah that's not gonna be enjoyable, you'll get a pop obol once in a blue moon

[hollow wasp]

K so fk this. What's next on the list to do active. Rn I do idle green Spore for DNA splice for pets. idk

[deep lodge]

Maybe farm for best armor/tools on your ES for more damage

[hollow wasp]

Want me to link my IE? Idk

[deep lodge]

What level is your ES?

[hollow wasp]

Tools for stats right? Dementia is a problem for me

160

[hidden sphinx]

Does char level affect carry cap?

[deep lodge]

Shouldn't

[hollow wasp]

Im working on maestro a bit too. Need idk 6 more mining lvls. 15 more chopping lvls and 3 more smithing lvls

[hidden sphinx]

Oh forgot my ES had ruck sack on. Was tryna work out why they had nearly double food capacity compared to my DK even tho everyone has the magma food bag

[deep lodge]

Feel like you should level up your ES in W5 if possible, to max out your portal talent.

[hidden sphinx]

Getting lvl 160 is stupid easy in w5

It shouldn’t take that long to get your ES to 200 if you’re active even if you’re only doing first few maps in w5

[hollow wasp]

Well afk in w5 map1 I get 100m/h. Need 2000m to lvl up so 20h of afk. Like 5h active or smth? Idk

[rustic garnet]

Is there a post 110 waka waka tower guide?

[hidden sphinx]

You got good xp cards, xp potions?

You can also mess around with xp prayers and see if the one that increases mob hp will increase your xp gain for that map or decrease it

[hollow wasp]

Ye I have alot actually. But it will crush my dmg alot

[deep lodge]

Active is many times faster, especially on chars like ES that can respawn mobs

[deep lodge]

If you don't have multikill on that map, you don't care about your damage as long as you're one shotting the mobs

[hollow wasp]

Let me check rl quick

Im by far not oneshotting

[hidden sphinx]

Don’t care about dmg apart from the thresholds right?

[hollow wasp]

They have 25m HP, my Max hit with That lightning is like 17m?

And this is the strongest ability I have

[deep lodge]

Yeah then you want damage

[hollow wasp]

I could reskill I have like 130 points in the afk trait.

[deep lodge]

I had forgotten the struggles of early W5

[hollow wasp]

If I send screenshot of my skill points could u help me chose the best active?

[deep lodge]

Sure

[vagrant mountain]

sounds like you need to work on your alchemy, there's a lot of outside sources of damage

[hidden sphinx]

Stamps might give you a bigger bonus than alch depending on their level

[hollow wasp]

739, 596, 530, 278. That the 4 skill tree points

I have like +30 lvls in the important things from books.

And I have the pet +25 lvls if you put a point in

[glad mountain]

only when you print big mats and money, but at that stage you probably dont have to worry about your damage anymore

[hollow wasp]

Also I need to max agi for hitrate

[hidden sphinx]

Depends if you forgot about stamps for a while. I did and because my dmg upgrades in alch were starting to slow down the early stamp upgrades gave a huge boost to my dmg

[deep lodge]

Numbers are skill priority order

[glad mountain]

true true

[deep lodge]

Ignore 3 if you have 200% crit (doubt it), and put more in 5 if you don't have 100% accuracy

[vagrant mountain]

I'd try not to pump points into agi on your ES, better to pump agi through alchemy/stamps and work on bloaches for shaquracy

[hidden sphinx]

Still thats a very specific thing that’s unlikely to be the same for another account

[prisma drift]

Yeah I have 0 points in agi

[hollow wasp]

I have all my equip upgraded with archer

[deep lodge]

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[glad mountain]

well thats basically for every skill. some people slack on alch others on stamps i slack on meals

[hollow wasp]

And the problems with alchemy is the liquid I have like 4.5/h

[vagrant mountain]

damn you really forced your way into w5 eh? 🤣

[hidden sphinx]

Your ES equip is upgraded by your archer? As in you were getting agi from the upgrade stones?

[hollow wasp]

Yes sir. Big bonuses there

[hidden sphinx]

Take a break from pushing w5, go back to skilling, focus on alch for a while

[hollow wasp]

[vagrant mountain]

sounds like you are spread a little thin my friend

[hidden sphinx]

You can get started on the w5 skills for sure but besides that it’ll take you wayyy to long to get any other benefits from w5

[tacit tulip]

It's a common strat in w4/5 to give you enough acc to hit the bare minimum, as you say alch will fix that

[hollow wasp]

Alch is a time gated thing trough the liquid

[hidden sphinx]

Bubo

[deep lodge]

Not with his stats

[hollow wasp]

I have bubo yes

My bubo lvl 88 or smth

[hidden sphinx]

Oh

Oh damn

Yeah not bubo then 😂😂

[glad mountain]

you should do a daily CC for now on lower maps

[vagrant mountain]

I would throw most of your characters into div, and work from w2 making sure your alchemy p2w is maxed, you have good samples on all your characters, etc

[hidden sphinx]

Ngl I never new people would do that, somehow I never struggled for accuracy but I think I’d made up for it with alch

[hollow wasp]

I have 8/9 chars in div

[hollow wasp]

Cc?

[glad mountain]

cranium cooking

[hollow wasp]

Do I go to spores with bubo for cranium?

[steady token]

I just know Spice spillage dont count for the daily collection limit, but all my characters are at level 1 since I get that talent

[hidden sphinx]

No you need a high density map

[glad mountain]

up to what world can your bubo oneshot?

[hidden sphinx]

Slimes are good in w1 iirc

[hollow wasp]

Ehhh idk. He not rly has good gear

[glad mountain]

you've got some testing to do friend

[hollow wasp]

He's Divinity rn

[hidden sphinx]

You only need to take him out once a day

[glad mountain]

exactly

divinity doesnt look at afk times so you can just keep fighting gear on

[hollow wasp]

I put him out more than once a day trying my luck unlocking new bubbles

[deep lodge]

He probably can't do floms, so i'd say best spot is either cans or staches

[glad mountain]

i was thinking staches aswell but does a lvl 88 oneshot those?

[hollow wasp]

Let me check

[hidden sphinx]

I doubt it

[edgy pendant]

Wouldn’t u be better off just lvling all except your ES?

[deep lodge]

With poison, not with another skill

[hollow wasp]

Probs not with that gear hahahaa

[glad mountain]

oof

[deep lodge]

omg

[vagrant mountain]

just abuse spaghetti code and cc on your BM

[hollow wasp]

I traded my ES equip to him to get elite class

I can do it for cc now too

[hidden sphinx]

True

[glad mountain]

can i maestro print on my bubo?

[hollow wasp]

Let me do it

[deep lodge]

With this damage, you'll be lucky to OS a slime with poison

[glad mountain]

do you have any dungeon flubbo upgrades?

[viral snow]

Cant yout get plat gear atleast ?

[hollow wasp]

Yep. But since today I can x20dungeon again

[glad mountain]

im actually impressed

for 8k to 2m

from*

[deep lodge]

Yeah, that's impressive

[glad mountain]

whats the hp on staches?

[deep lodge]

Then CC with poison one shot should be doable at staches

81k

[hollow wasp]

I don't even have the mustaches unlocked here

[vagrant mountain]

probably 😆, tbh not sure how to recreate it, just know it has to do with going between steam client and android

[deep lodge]

How did you even get to W5 my dude

[hollow wasp]

But it isn't to far huh

[hollow wasp]

U can teleport there once u went to w5 with one char

I was in w5 with lvl 40 or so

Eh w5

4

[glad mountain]

thats still impressive haha

but yeah staches is 2maps away

try not to use cc meanwhile x)

[hollow wasp]

Should I unlock mustaches?

Is easy peasy I guess

[glad mountain]

got afk cards?

[rustic garnet]

Any Waka waka 120 TD guides?

[glad mountain]

cus 58 is really low

[deep lodge]

24% MK with x5 tier

[rustic garnet]

58% is bonkers low

[glad mountain]

youtube LP_N

wait no waka is w2

mb

[viral snow]

If you login in less than 10hr use that prayer für more xp

[hollow wasp]

Ye but I'm doing active atm

[hollow wasp]

Ye good idea too

[glad mountain]

ah fair then i take it back

[viral snow]

Could also use the second god if you have it already for portals active
or first one for afk

[hollow wasp]

Funny class

[hollow wasp]

Nop I only have first since tody

[viral snow]

You got your star signs setup ?
Bubbles ?

[hollow wasp]

Bubbles I have pet that All is active. Star signs u got a point

I put my phone aside a bit cleaning the fridge and after I move to next map

[graceful island]

I guess I go for 1B skull then

[deep lodge]

Show your royal urns, maybe you have 1M% MK

[pulsar cliff]

I think I'd be okay with not having the drop, but having 1M% MK lol

[graceful island]

I've been feeding some to the vial god

[vagrant mountain]

if I use anvil 4 recipes without anvil 4 unlocked, do I fuck myself

[deep lodge]

On average you'd expect to get the recipe at 1000 royal urns

[graceful island]

nah you're fine

[deep lodge]

No

[vagrant mountain]

nice

also I can't get past wave 10 for frosty fireflight

[novel scarab]

which character is the best for rare drop active farming?

[deep lodge]

ES

[shrewd nexus]

es

[novel scarab]

thx mate ":)

[graceful island]

yeah i think i've got a 90% chance at 118mil kills and a 99% chance by 240mil kills

still depressing

[deep lodge]

Your kills include multikill, so you can't really do the math like that

[graceful island]

you can when you take multikill into account

[shrewd nexus]

tbh you might be better doing somehting else, its a nice recipe but its not like a super big diffrence

[graceful island]

it'd be 14 mil and 29 mil without taking MK into account

[vagrant mountain]

#1085023989769969746 message

[shrewd nexus]

whats your DR at?

[graceful island]

didn't realise this existed, would've saved me the time of making my own one

[graceful island]

7.79

[vagrant mountain]

lmaoo

[shrewd nexus]

youd be better sorting out you low-ish dr then come back to it

have you got say 10k plunderous kills on SB?

[graceful island]

nah i got like 5 k

[novel scarab]

Do I get these buffs although i didn't unlock it?

[shrewd nexus]

good enough, are you maybe lacking cards or obals then?

[viral snow]

I got the recipe before the card drop

[deep lodge]

But you need to unlock/equip them to use chip doubler

[novel scarab]

thx 🙂

[graceful island]

cards with Doot doubled

[shrewd nexus]

nice. potentially worth platinuming the last two, but pretty solid

wait why are you doubling the shell

[graceful island]

Obols (yes I know the xp star, didn't craft it)

[deep lodge]

Don't think he has last card doubler

[graceful island]

doubled doot not shell

[shrewd nexus]

tbh your build is all round pretty solid

[deep lodge]

Are all your obols rerolled ?

[graceful island]

don't have the bottom doubled

[novel scarab]

how much dr do you get from all those pop and dr obols?

[deep lodge]

Full perso and family is about 3 DR

[novel scarab]

3x?

[deep lodge]

Yeah, 300%

[shrewd nexus]

around 10 DR total is definitly achievable, im sure end games have much more

[deep lodge]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1094256172296577125

[novel scarab]

waiting for dr golden food 🙂

[shrewd nexus]

its worth noting that ES portal kills MULTIPLY drop rate. so even a small change in base DR can be big. for example by around 150 portal kills you are getting say x20 DR so something like 200 DR for me

helps bring down the varience on rare drops

[tight ridge]

hit 400

[novel scarab]

i have 6.9x now, what's the total if i get 130 kills?

[vagrant mountain]

wait you mean I can do rift and not have to do all the constellations?

[viral snow]

Is it always worth it to farm pop obols ?
Or should I got other things done before that ?

[shrewd nexus]

130 times whatever the talent says per kill, then times base DR

[novel scarab]

beast me

[deep lodge]

Where do people usually stop with larry?

[novel scarab]

divided by 4 is my lv 🙂

[deep lodge]

I've seen many people push it a bit farther for chance of +3 levels, don't know how far tho

[severe osprey]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[tacit tulip]

500 for 100%
700 for 105%
1100 for 110% I think?

[graceful island]

and yet, still no drop

[deep lodge]

Think i'll stop here for now then, 700@105% would need 4000 bubble clicks on average to pay for itself

[shrewd nexus]

the whole games an RNG wall really, just gotta grind it out

[novel scarab]

what the max lv talent is available on this patch?

[shrewd nexus]

245+ES bonus an stuff

[novel scarab]

including symbols of beyond P?

[deep lodge]

At least 305, probably a bit more

[empty glade]

For people who got vman or mman already, what item should i bé crafting with jman to get his smithing up?

[prisma beacon]

Is lava dead?

[shrewd nexus]

tab 5 bullets by far

[novel scarab]

nice almost there

[shrewd nexus]

or soul cndy things if not

[empty glade]

I Said jman...

[deep lodge]

Coldseeker bullet, before that black mining/chopping bags

[empty glade]

Guys jman

[shrewd nexus]

your asking in w5

[empty glade]

Cuz other Worlds are dead

[shrewd nexus]

so read my other awnser above

[empty glade]

Its a jman

Those bullets are way higher level than what hé Can craft

Hé has 28 smithing i need 35

[gentle furnace]

mining/chopping boost food

[novel scarab]

Wizard's Mana of Life only for W3?

[deep lodge]

With 28 smithing, probably blue mining pouches

[tawdry epoch]

Stopped mine at 1045

[empty glade]

Ok i'll try that thanks

[tawdry epoch]

Is it a rounding up thing the 1100 cause im at 1045 and its 110%

[rustic garnet]

is there a point to getting crafting higher?

[empty glade]

To craft

[deep lodge]

Think so, I was 100% at 491

[rustic garnet]

apart from crafting

[empty glade]

Also jman needs 35 smithing to become mman

[deep lodge]

Better mat stack size boost from stamps, and mman damage talent based on skills

[sick sentinel]

I think carry cap or production cap is influenced by anvil lvl

[rustic garnet]

mat stack size boost is based on craft levels? interesting

[shrewd nexus]

heres a quick guide to how rounding works in this game, randomly pick one of these three erratically: floor, ceiling, closest number. hope that helps

[weary hinge]

base carry cap is x2 of your mat cap

[empty glade]

Bigger mat bag= more anvil stack size

[hollow wasp]

Got mustaches unlocked soon

[deep lodge]

This is getting out of hand

[shrewd nexus]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/849473649832755231

[hollow wasp]

It's related to another thing sir.

[empty glade]

Is that even possible?

[haughty cove]

how you could upgrade it then?

[tawdry epoch]

So official 110% is at 1100 and i might be a 109.75% or something like that and its rounding up to 110 ? Haha for .25 ill let it that way

[hollow wasp]

Im in w5 already

[deep lodge]

By stacking both of these

[weary hinge]

atom discount + rift discount

[shrewd nexus]

mb

[weary hinge]

atom discount caps at 90% and stacks with the rift discount. i forgot if additive or multi

[deep lodge]

We were guiding him to staches for CC to progress alchemy
When he showed us his 8k damage lvl 81 bubo in W5, we got scared

[sick sentinel]

Pretty sure multi

[rustic garnet]

yeah those bullets are great anvil levels

any stamp recommendations for

[deep lodge]

Since we were on the subject on leveling up crafting, is there anything other than efaunt and golden ham to boost skill xp? I'm gonna craft 26k coldseeker bullets on my ES, so I really want to maximise my xp

[shrewd nexus]

im done greenstacking w1-4, going to take a break on it. whats another good use of active apart from bubo liquid farming?

[weary hinge]

acorn hat

[deep lodge]

Hampters for all colossal mat bags

[deep lodge]

Ah yeah good point

[weary hinge]

cash grabbin

[shrewd nexus]

ah true, loota hamster

[deep lodge]

Stamps that are physically limited by inventory size like mat capacity stamp

And then maybe glass shards/bricks stamp?

[sick sentinel]

Multitool if u have it

[deep lodge]

Multitool is mainly gated by money, no?

[sick sentinel]

Could be stack size too

[rustic garnet]

multitool is 100% money gated

[deep lodge]

Personally, i'm focusing on everything to increase stack size, to be able to upgrade other stamps without reductions

Probably getting rucksack prayer would be more efficient tho

[weary hinge]

yea its big

[shrewd nexus]

just realised a plus side of the drama. ill always know when its time to roll a new pet based on th elevel of complaints in here

[grand karma]

but stamps dont cap out, unlike rucksack

[weary hinge]

but the skill lvl restriction on stamps work as intended right

[rustic garnet]

in what sense?

[shrewd nexus]

yeah the prayers like +70% or something, its big

[rustic garnet]

skill level only reduces the % gained

[deep lodge]

Soon gonna be time to try my doot reroll accounts

[rustic garnet]

a higher stamp is still higher

[weary hinge]

yeae you got what im thinking i just didnt word it right

[shrewd nexus]

any advie on the "get lava skull" rifts? im at 42 or so. just leave it active afk long enough?

[weary hinge]

thats what i did, but its better for skulls to stay on a single platform

[deep lodge]

You just don't wanna kill all mobs all at once with bubo

[molten scarab]

what do numbers actually mean these days

[deep lodge]

Scientific notation is quite a bit more readable than QQQQQQ

[shrewd nexus]

i should use bubo?

[weary hinge]

dont

[shrewd nexus]

DK?

[deep lodge]

DK or ES should be good

mobs respawn quick in the rift anyway

[shrewd nexus]

ah okay, even with the ES globabl meteor thing? or i take that off?

[signal osprey]

DK is the worst for lava skull unless your damage is bad

[molten scarab]

2x ES is fastest

[weary hinge]

es generally better

[signal osprey]

You cant kill all the mobs at once and his respawn forces you to

[shrewd nexus]

thanks

[rustic garnet]

I'd say in order of 'best' ES, then SB, then 'rest'

SB instant respawn is nice

but you may run into issues with 'big' mobs if you are slow damage

[deep lodge]

Yeah plunderous mobs in rift get brutal

[vocal warren]

Somehow I got a nugget of almost 49k and didn't even notice it

[molten scarab]

SB actually feels the slowest , even when mobs die instnat, idk why

[deep lodge]

When you're so used to getting nothing, you stop looking

[shrewd nexus]

i mean you can always just put low points in the talent to bring their health down

[vocal warren]

Yeah I always clicked the shovel but then move on without looking

[deep lodge]

Even with that it's slow (my current rift has around 500B health)

[shrewd nexus]

yeah they not great either way

[deep lodge]

And sometimes their health bars don't show, so i'm not even sure i'm damaging then (and after 2m they finally die lol)

[molten scarab]

Just use the 2x ES you all have 😮

[rustic garnet]

I think it requires 3 chars though

anyway

the lava skull isn't going to be the true slow down

it's going to be the regen mobs

[shrewd nexus]

just 2 for this one, i think earlier were 3...also 2 bubo was meta when i chose classes 😦

[molten scarab]

good dog

[shrewd nexus]

imma need to save for that token

[rustic garnet]

2 bubo were meta for me too

[weary hinge]

yeah i got 2 bubo too, currently leveling the latter one to 500 then swap

[rustic garnet]

but so were two warrior zerkers at one point

so.... yeah

[deep lodge]

Same, and now it's meta again with doot

[weary hinge]

you got 2 bb?

[rustic garnet]

I've got 2 bubo and two bb

and 2 dk

so.....

[weary hinge]

thats abit hard if you have 2 bb

[rustic garnet]

I can swap a bubo, fine

but I can't swap out the bb into dk really

[molten scarab]

what do you mean by this doot? the w2 boss..?

[rustic garnet]

a 3rd DK is meh

[weary hinge]

the companion

[deep lodge]

Do you really not know of doot?

[weary hinge]

the ones you see stalking around some players

[rustic garnet]

at least I can farm BB for 100m and one sits in kitchen

[deep lodge]

I guess we haven't been complaining enough these days

[weary hinge]

the most broken update as of the moment, imo

[molten scarab]

oh I got a free pet then never thought about it again

[rustic garnet]

The recent update introduced gacha gambling for pets

[molten scarab]

what doot do

[rustic garnet]

It's incredibly broken strong

like, imagine the biggest buff you can think about

[weary hinge]

dude you get a free pet weekly

[deep lodge]

Everything, pretty much

[rustic garnet]

and multiply it by 10

that's doot

welcome to gacha money slurping

people are pissed

[weary hinge]

but doot activates all 10 gods without any links

[rustic garnet]

lava hasn't said a word in 2 weeks

IOS has rejected the update

[weary hinge]

was it 2 wks already? damn.

[shrewd nexus]

the main problem isnt even doot imho, the second premium currency seperate from the first is the red flag for me

[rustic garnet]

and he's had to pull the new currency in IOS

Yes gdgo

100% this

[deep lodge]

Is it still not ok on iOS? lol

[rustic garnet]

No, and it won't be

[molten scarab]

well.. ES talent aint so useful anymore is it

[rustic garnet]

they've rejected the new currency

it's CLEARLY just for gambling

[deep lodge]

Hahahaha

[weary hinge]

yes. like a breach of ToS ? i dont know the name

[rustic garnet]

there is no other use

[weary hinge]

yes, if you have doot

[rustic garnet]

like no one knows what is lava's thoughts here

and he's not spoken for 2 weeks

[deep lodge]

We should know soon, with the update being in beta rn

[weary hinge]

yea we still in the waiting game

[molten scarab]

he needs to change to , you must have pet following only then you get bonus. only one pets bonus at one time

[shrewd nexus]

oh also to mention pets rotate, so unless your in the lucky 5% or so that get it in 10 weeks, its gone for a while

[molten scarab]

on one char*

[weary hinge]

that wont happen, imagine needing 10 doots to not give a damn on 1/3 of the w5.

i say 1/3 based on the town skills.

[rustic garnet]

5%??? lol

[molten scarab]

only works on active char then

[rustic garnet]

no chance it's as high as 5%

No, chef

It works on everyone right now

it's broken good

like... game altering

[shrewd nexus]

coulnt remember odds off top of head, did 1-0.995 to teh power 10. the odds change after 5

[rustic garnet]

Before this patch

we had an all time high

nearly 10k gamers

now we're peaking at most 7k

and dipping under 5k

we've not dipped under 5k sincelast year

[crude oxide]

Cats already out the bag for big nerfs, most likely. Some dropped thousands to get doot, and also all others in the process

[weary hinge]

cant forget the cull of the mostly w5 players

[rustic garnet]

it won't be nerfed, it'll be given to others

[deep lodge]

Got a feeling Lava's fix is just gonna be trading, he's gonna be like "Tada! It's free (only if you bought green gems previously)"

[shrewd nexus]

yeah i dont think he will nerf something that ppl paid big money for, would affect future sales. if he addresses it at all, it will be to buff f2p

[molten scarab]

anyone else getting fucked by the sailing bug/revert and now still only only like 3 outta the 30 aldritch artifacts , no upgrades for weeks

[deep lodge]

What?

[shrewd nexus]

does anyone have the odds of doot before and after you hit the first level change? i want to do the math prperly on how many f2p will get it

[crude oxide]

Ngl I would've been long gone if I had to redo eldritch

[deep lodge]

Ah you mean the gold4gold rollback?

[molten scarab]

Eldritch* Artifacts

and yes

which is fine , I restart , but its been a month and I've had 0 artifacts

feels painfull

[deep lodge]

Do you check in only once a day?

Early eldritches should be fairly easy to get

[molten scarab]

yeah usually

[deep lodge]

Mh yeah then it really sucks

I've been progressing eldritches really fast thanks to sheepie/golden hampters and checking every few hours

[molten scarab]

for last month D:

[shrewd nexus]

ignoring the increase after 5 rolls 2.7% of f2p will get doot (which is an underestimate)

[serene forum]

Yea im up to snowman elderich withing a week

[molten scarab]

fuck

I check on my SB with Big P , that is right yeah? ive got the talent thing maxed aswell , the chest one , good or bad

[shrewd nexus]

ok now accounting for the increase its 3.1%. so yeah good luck

[deep lodge]

Unending talent is pretty bad, except if you're really checking every 24h or so. At the very least, anything under 12h is better without it

[tacit tulip]

unending is also good for 1h claims but noone is that mad

[deep lodge]

True

[tacit tulip]

as you never hit the chest limit but get the passive bonus

[jagged relic]

Another day, another non lava post

[deep lodge]

I heard someone say yesterday that it's not actually a bonus, but a chance to upgrade

[shrewd nexus]

thats how i thought it worked too, but sakori is normalyl pretty accurate so now im douting it

[molten scarab]

so if im checking 1-3 daily on average , it should be maxed

[deep lodge]

Like, the talent is missing the word chance at the end

[molten scarab]

once every 1-3 days that is

[deep lodge]

Yeah definitely

[gleaming prawn]

does breedability go up faster if more of the same pet are in the fenceyard?

[versed cypress]

its not a chance to upgrade, it upgrades chests based on loot thresholds, when you have a full loot pile it begins to add a % of the next chest loot to one of the random chests in the pile, when the chests reaches a certain ammount of oot it upgrades to the next tier

[gleaming prawn]

thanks

[deep lodge]

Hmm, interesting

[shrewd nexus]

why is everything implemented so weird

[signal osprey]

[molten scarab]

@versed cypress Hey mayne

[versed cypress]

its rather not usefull if you claim less than 12h+ sets, but it becomes really good if you claim large afk sessions

[versed cypress]

hey chef

[versed cypress]

its not really weirdly implements it does what it says on th etalent its just a strange mechanic if you have never seen somethign similar

[shrewd nexus]

"When Loot Pile is almost full, ships can upgrade previous chests instead of filling Pile." would infer to me a chance to change tier of the chest. i mean i guess its not that important, just seems an unexpected way

[versed cypress]

its not what ppl tough he would give us when he said he had a plan for the sailing loot pile when he disabled the fragmented sailing gains thats for sure

[shrewd nexus]

i think i missed all that, was on a break when w5 came out

[bold quiver]

big dmg

[hollow wasp]

Did cranium cooking. 164secs, good?

[viral snow]

Not really tho

[hollow wasp]

Rip

[red cove]

We all gotta start somewhere

[sterile sundial]

Yeah, this is pretty low. Do you have Cookin Roadkill bubble and maxed out Alchemy Box?

[red cove]

now increase 1000x...

[sterile sundial]

Another important factor is how effective you are at killing whatever it is you used CC on. If you aren't able to one shot the mob, then this decreases your gains as well

[hollow wasp]

Page 3 Page 4?

[rustic garnet]

that's almost irrelevantly low

[hollow wasp]

No

[sterile sundial]

Yeah work towards that and make sure you are using one of the effective farming maps to see way larger gains. But just getting those two started will make your CC last longer and give more progress

[hollow wasp]

I was at the mustache people recommended me

[rustic garnet]

do you one shot all the mobs?

[hollow wasp]

Also my CC spell is only on lvl 40ish that's quite a big downthing too I guess

[hollow wasp]

Besides 3 4 monster I cleared all ye

[rustic garnet]

Do you one shot the mobs

not clear

one shot

and have aura

and res

[hollow wasp]

With the poison I do

What aura

[sterile sundial]

Do you have res spell and Tenteyecle?

[hollow wasp]

Tente is maxed yes

130

[rustic garnet]

That's not maxed

[sterile sundial]

maxed for him

[hollow wasp]

It is for me rn

...

[rustic garnet]

sure

[hollow wasp]

I can have it to like 160 something I think

With book

[sterile sundial]

What about your raise dead?

[molten scarab]

Tell that to us W4 dudes 😦

[hollow wasp]

My bubo only lvl 86, lacking in points

[rustic garnet]

then just get levels

don't worry about CC

[hollow wasp]

Ye

[sterile sundial]

yeah get the levels as well, you are definitely low

[molten scarab]

Had to push it before 200 existed xD farming Fl0ms

Yeah like NBLB

and ES

[rustic garnet]

decent numbers exist before 200

but certainly not at level 86

[molten scarab]

hey what is max talent level these days now

[rustic garnet]

depends exactly on a few things

but over 300

[molten scarab]

4s Tent yet ? hahaha

oh jeez

[rustic garnet]

245 for points, 25 from slug, 10 from god, and some numbers from Symbols

No way on 4s tent

that's like 900 or something stupid far away

[molten scarab]

eldrich artifact , umm

isn't there more

[hollow wasp]

How should I spend my points here for active fighting?

[rustic garnet]

eldritch brings you to 245

[sick sentinel]

245 book is max ye

[rustic garnet]

There is a bubo guide

[sick sentinel]

ES points as well

[molten scarab]

then big P , arctis

ES

pet

[rustic garnet]

I know you're in w5... but you're asking veyr early Qs here, one chat has Bubo pinned I think

And ES

[hollow wasp]

Can someone help me spending my talent points tab 3 es?

The full guide thingy is a bit weird imo

[rustic garnet]

so you want us to read/tell you it?

c'mon

[molten scarab]

click the buttons

[rustic garnet]

try it

and we can review

[molten scarab]

Oh yeah.. there is a difference between max talent and max book level

[serene forum]

Bowman talent is terrible

[hollow wasp]

Like this is saying max talent book as third but I don't even have any spare points in tab1 where it would make sense

[serene forum]

You get like 100% more chests without it because it dose cap out your max chest gain

[sterile sundial]

Its a bit reliant on your being further in the game. This is just what is ideal

[sudden badger]

so if i have that one companion that has something to do with big bubbles, am i just constantly boosted for all skills i have big bubbles for?

[sterile sundial]

Yup, all big bubble active permanently

[serene forum]

Best strat for elderich is to dont use any chest filters or bowman talent. I think for exp also void walker is better with the exp skills

[sudden badger]

sweet, thanks

[molten scarab]

Interesting

[rustic garnet]

That is the 'goal' not an order of op

[molten scarab]

I shall try your theory \

[sterile sundial]

Yeah you just want more chances for drops, not necessarily higher tier chests

[rustic garnet]

do you mean you get more exp on voidman for sialing?

[molten scarab]

That is what he ids saying

[rustic garnet]

is it true?

[molten scarab]

Probably

SB talents are all chars

the exp ones

as long as you have big P equipped on char that checks

[hollow wasp]

Also guide is saying max the wormhole talent, probs when I do it the mobs are to strong for me I guess

[fallow pawn]

damn it takes like 20 days to 5 star w5 chopping card with vman

[rustic garnet]

the mobs get strong for everyone

that'st he point of wormhole.....

wormhole talent max is the best talent by far

[hollow wasp]

So I rly Max it out?

[rustic garnet]

The guide said so

[hollow wasp]

Someone told me there was a point where u should only put 1 point, something with time

[rustic garnet]

you're doubting the guide and doubting our advice -- why ask anything?

[molten scarab]

You want to use portal as often as possible , ideally have it down 24/7 so yeah

max that

[rustic garnet]

and you want the boosted DR and EXP from it

once you understand how it works, you'll get it

[molten scarab]

CDR Post office box is handy here

[rustic garnet]

Anyone feeling like a frisky dive into my IE portfolio for a good ole account roast?

[hollow wasp]

I maxed it, I managed to kill 16 mobs out the portal

[rustic garnet]

cool

now go try world 1

zone 1

and see what it does

active there for 10 minutes

check your bags

Your reaction will likely be 'what the hell did I just do'

and you'll get it

[hollow wasp]

Ye I understand it. But is it also worth max out if you want to progress?

[rustic garnet]

yes

[hollow wasp]

I know I can kill like 200 portal monster of green Spore

Oki

[rustic garnet]

read the spell

and the room clears and everything instantly respawns

and clears

and respawns

and clears

that's why I said check Green Spores

to see how it works

[hollow wasp]

Gotta do a bit of work now. I'm at work atm. I do after.

[viral snow]

IdleOn is work
Quit your second job

[molten scarab]

Alright ill risk it and go first, what we at?! i have not been actively leveling these lol

[viral snow]

Still more than 3x of mine

[rustic garnet]

https://naterade.idleonefficiency.com/

[molten scarab]

and oops

[hidden quail]

Not sure if should be w2 or w5 question. Does the “Big P” bubble work? I dont see any visual indication on my stats showing that it does what it says.

[molten scarab]

@rustic garnet I get the feeling you posted IE because you knew you couldn't be roasted xD

Nice progress

[rustic garnet]

nah I know it can be

I want any tips/points

[molten scarab]

https://naterade.idleonefficiency.com/account/slab

[deep lodge]

Did you try to reload the map after equipping it?

[hidden quail]

Yes

[rustic garnet]

yeah Chef?

[hidden quail]

Tried reloading game, map, character no indication that it did anything

[rustic garnet]

what slab things?

[deep lodge]

Do you have sheepie?

[hidden quail]

Like the pet? Ya

[molten scarab]

Just some easy slab items to finish off, cant find much else lol

[deep lodge]

Then big P is always active, so of course you won't see any change

[molten scarab]

your pretty on path

[hidden quail]

Tbh i completely forgot that existed lmao

[hidden quail]

Thank u i was going crazy lol

[rustic garnet]

some of the material bags?

[hidden quail]

Need to return it home

Leave menu then just click the docked ship 2 times

[molten scarab]

dis mine

wait

thats yours

[rustic garnet]

yeah you linked mine

[molten scarab]

hold on mine is the one that needs fixing

LOL

[rustic garnet]

rofl

[molten scarab]

ima go back to bed

id just be trying to push totem waves if I were you , finish vials your basically at same point as me

Towers above 51 for damage

[rustic garnet]

which ones you think?

[molten scarab]

all of em , every level over 51

[rustic garnet]

I just tried waka waka 120 and coulnt'

[molten scarab]

adds % damage

oh

[rustic garnet]

oh tower levels

[molten scarab]

this is relatively doable

at our point

my poisoner still 46

[true obsidian]

does anyone know what is the best set up for this? i want to farm card

[true obsidian]

thank you

[deep lodge]

This is not really up to date tho

I think

[bold quiver]

rly? whats the best

[true obsidian]

...1 kraken card

[bold quiver]

last time i tested that was the best at least

[deep lodge]

Really? Hm

I'll have to check next time I resample

[bold quiver]

u could try, but i was using that combination even before i had that picture haha

unless i missed something that was the best i could do

[wheat umbra]

is it smarter to harvest plants once they've reached tier 3/4 or pop em more frequently at tier 1/2 once I first see them

[glossy horizon]

Are you using bb or maestro? Cause I believe fishing is the only skill where efficiency affects card drops

[true obsidian]

still 1 kraken...nooooo

[true obsidian]

vman

[glossy horizon]

So bb is much better at card farming

[true obsidian]

i'm doing both card and skill lv

[tidal ice]

dunno, I would like to know too

[true obsidian]

just 110 1 hour candy, i can do it

[rotund gull]

In what way? Once it can catch all the fish at 100% threshold, what is more efficiency going to get you?

[rotund gull]

That depends on your cycle speed. If it takes you 2-3 days to get level 4 plants, harvest more often.

[vocal warren]

Is there a secret to getting baba yaga eggs? Feels harder than rolling doot

[rotund gull]

Always harvest the low tier garbage plants immediately. Don't waste slots leveling up the base plant, cactus, and the like

[molten scarab]

Effeciency has the least effect on fishing

[rotund gull]

Drop rate is always the secret for rare drops. Get more cards and obols and it's easier to farm stuff

[viral hearth]

I’ve seen a while ago someone post some sort of Damage leaderboard. Does anyone have a link to this so I can see how puny my damage is compared to the big bois round here

[molten scarab]

W2 achievements

oh right , yeah IE has leaderboard

[vocal warren]

12 dr on dk doesn't seem to help, that's why I asked. Thought maybe I need a quest or something

[deep lodge]

Ie cheaterboards, but they're full of cheaters for now

[true obsidian]

use ES on w3 boss, you hit it until got marked, then kill crystal then use lighting

[rotund gull]

At that Dr, you probably added them to the loot filter

[vocal warren]

Definitely not xD

Just in case, lemme check..

[rotund gull]

I don't think you need a quest, they are just in the loot table

[deep lodge]

Funny thing is they are affected by MK too so you can drop like 48 at a time

[viral hearth]

👍🏼

[vocal warren]

I can't put them on the filter when I never dropped them before

So I guess I'm just unlucky. Time to waste another 100 tickets for that 1 slab item

[rotund gull]

If it takes you 100 colo runs and you get nothing, I'd stop and file a bug report. That's not normal

[deep lodge]

How much orb count you get to?

[summer axle]

are bonuses like the fluoride atom 'useless' because of the vman skill or are they overall multipliers?

[rotund gull]

The drop chance is 1/167. So at 12/167 it shouldn't take that many kills with orb going

[deep lodge]

multipliers

[vocal warren]

304 by the end of the run

[rotund gull]

Very useful

[true obsidian]

this very stress...

[deep lodge]

You actually spent that 115 candy for kraken?

[vocal warren]

Guess what, that was my run. 150 eggs dropped

[true obsidian]

more than 115, its not 100% drop 1 card

but yeah

[deep lodge]

Damn

I've parked my vman there, he's getting 15 a day

I'm too greedy for my candy

[rotund gull]

Kraken is a cardifier candidate. Cheaper than so many candy

I used a ruby one on it

[deep lodge]

Yeah that's prob a good idea

[true obsidian]

i'm not using those candy anyway...

[deep lodge]

At the same time, I do need to up my vman's fishing so

[rotund gull]

Have you super chowed w1-4 yet?

[true obsidian]

but yeah, if i can, i'll used ruby card on it ~~

[true obsidian]

done 1-3

[bold quiver]

have u 1B all worlds yet?

[true obsidian]

nope

not even w1

[rotund gull]

Both better uses than kraken lol

[bold quiver]

gimme those candies so i can put them to use!

[true obsidian]

candy pretty easy to farm..especially when you have infinite star sign

those candy i have is left after super chow w1-3 + some 1B kill in w1

[bright quail]

how did u get so much candy?

[deep lodge]

Mostly events, and also star sign/star talent that give candy

[rotund gull]

24/7 active farming

[deep lodge]

• giants/giant bubble

[true obsidian]

and kill Giant

[bright quail]

oh didnt know they existed, forgot all about star signs lmao

[rotund gull]

Those signs were garbage until we got infinite signs. The trade off was very bad

So most of us forgot about them lol

[bright quail]

is infinite signs from rift?

[true obsidian]

i have been use the 8+ one since i unlock it...its not that bad

the 40+ one is bad

[twin aurora]

yes + shinies pet ( from W4) SDB

[bright quail]

oh cheers

ill start doing rift once my dk gets stronger

[true obsidian]

also this drop candy too

[tidal ice]

question guys, is this a bug? Or someone knows how it works?

[bright quail]

probably another power of 10 thing? but mistyped?

idk

[tidal ice]

I've see people with billions of cooking speed, but It's no my case u_U

[bright quail]

idk how to get better at cooking D:

[rotund gull]

You need super chows on your BB to get there too

[bright quail]

ill start cooking after chowing

which im doing rn

should i zow everyone first and then go back to chow or just chow in one go?

[tidal ice]

mmmm I see, my BB sucks, gotta work on this one then

[glossy horizon]

That's how every other skill works, more efficiency than 100% doesn't increase card drops, fishing is the exception though

[hollow wasp]

Baer "soon"

[glossy horizon]

Test it out if you want, the difference is pretty huge

[bright quail]

is any god after elephant good?

[deep lodge]

1.0083^637 = 193% (there's probably a bit more to the 0.83%, difference to 198 is from there i'd say)

It's self multiplicating, which is the strongest kind of bonus possible. it's kinda bad at low levels tho

[true obsidian]

anyone know which is the best set up for fishing exp?

[exotic saffron]

The true math is (1,0083^637)/100... That's how you get the 198%

[tacit tulip]

Hey bud, it's an exponential increase but there's a hidden 100 divisor on the final amount.

1.0083^637 = 193.5 = 19350%

Divide back by 100 to get to your 193%. you have 198, just cause of some extra lava rounding

I had to fist fight half the discord to get them to accept there was a 100 divisor 😄

[deep lodge]

It's not really that there's a 100 divisor, it's just... percentages and math

Oh wait, now that you say it

[bright quail]

dont cause the man to fist fight the discord again

[tidal ice]

Ok I see it now, ty

[tacit tulip]

There is! if you have 100 1% buffs, the resulting buff will be 270%. The game will show this as 3% which is incorrect unless you have the divisor

I went over the maths here #bug-reports-🐛 message

[deep lodge]

Yeah you're right, my brain is kinda fried from studying the whole day for my exam tomorrow

[narrow cloak]

does xp gained from minigames scale with your xp/hr in afk screen?

[tacit tulip]

It's so easy to make the mistake cause 100 just looks like 100%, but it's actually 10000%

[shrewd nexus]

i tried to see if i could get where the rounding was off. only way i can see is this (as logarithms are commonly used to estimate powers) :

exp(637*round4dp(ln(1.0083))) = 197.7 would be weird to round half way through but thats the only way i can ger 198

[untold arch]

yes with the exception of afk gains, it assumes 100% afk basically

[narrow cloak]

cool thanks

[untold arch]

do you guys not have the formula for how that talent scales

[tacit tulip]

((1+T)^p)/100

T= talent level
p = plate level

[untold arch]

what

[tacit tulip]

actually not quite

[untold arch]

that is not right

[tacit tulip]

((1+0.01T)^p)/100

[untold arch]

and what is T

and p

[deep lodge]

^

[shrewd nexus]

he definied them

[tacit tulip]

ah not level

[deep lodge]

bonus, rather?

[shrewd nexus]

can we all just agree its good and ignore math

[stiff prairie]

Bit late, but the daily jman skill also occasionally gives candy

Not the mman printer one, the gift box.

[tacit tulip]

talent buff % I meant 😄

[untold arch]

[tacit tulip]

it's awkward, but the maths is right haha

[untold arch]

the displayed bonus for that talent is 2.1 * lvl / (lvl + 220) , then its that to the total levels of meals

well +1 like you did ye

but the displayed bonus is rounded, and not exact

[tacit tulip]

that's good to know, I'll make a crappy little formula for it later

[winged hull]

anyoen have a screwenshot of someone's discord saying ''playing legend of idleon for a month''

[tacit tulip]

in a pvp game rn 😄

[deep lodge]

It's the new beta update, idleon companion pvp!

[tacit tulip]

It's actually an idle game that has some active components

[winged hull]

@shrewd nexus this but 1 month

[atomic kiln]

just did anothe run with 22 doot and 63 biggie

[shrewd nexus]

everyones saying doot is hard, this guy works out how to get 22

[solid python]

almost there 😎

[deep lodge]

Nice, you cleaned out the storage now I guess ^^

[solid python]

since i assume i dont have to do xylobone

[atomic kiln]

simple 😄

[solid python]

i have all rest done

😁

vman here i come

[atomic kiln]

yeah, i had to finish my t5 armors on all chars and i ran out of rare mats, so i needed some candies to get them fast 😄

[solid python]

i should probably swap to my ES tho if im gonna active lol

[untold arch]

(((2.1 * 145) / ( 145 + 220) * 0.01) + 1 ) ^ 637, extra parentheses just to make it clearer i hope ; end result is 198.76170425764416802023249033129 which rounds down i guess

[shrewd nexus]

what have you actually done here? is this like w2colo or the golden eye thing?

[deep lodge]

Was it the gold twine? That one was a little annoying for my 1st (and only) T5 armor set

[atomic kiln]

yeah i need 8 more lol, its really annoying!

lets get some gold twine

[chrome thicket]

Got chemicals before unlocking Poiing, what the fuck

[shrewd nexus]

i hope lindbrum asks something good

[chrome thicket]

So my question is

[deep lodge]

When you're getting more kph on floms than me on gmush with midas prayer too

[chrome thicket]

Now is it just better to clear everything that isn't cactus, evergreen and chemicals?

[shrewd nexus]

i like berri bushes too, but that might just be me

[deep lodge]

I kinda hate evergreen and like berri bush

[chrome thicket]

The multiplier lotto on evergreen is meh, i agree

[shrewd nexus]

evergreen is def skewed more towards the 1 end than the x100 end

[deep lodge]

And cactus is good to keep, but not too many (when using water sprout for example) since it can easily use up previous spots that could turn into chems

But never pop a chem under T4

[shrewd nexus]

how many max vials y'all on? ive just got the easy ones (wood based, ore based + goldfish and flies)

[ashen marsh]

do these reset? I could have sworn I had them almost full yesterda

[tawdry steeple]

oof

someone pulled a guy out of lab...

[ashen marsh]

ahh happened when the I lvld up the God skill on ES

rip

it d/c from bear god

unlinked

[oak minnow]

Does skilled dimwit prayer absolutely destroy your divinity xp gain

[quartz sandal]

since when were you able to remove the captain from the crew tab?

[hardy quarry]

Dootless problems amirite

[chrome thicket]

Divinity is unaffected by exp multipliers outside "divinity gain"

[hardy quarry]

A mix of cards and cooking bonuses kind of solved lab for me. I still need to push 75 for chips but 6 guys fill 100% of the lab. The cooking bonuses help a lot