lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[deep lodge]

I disagree for the star talent

[solid python]

I was told the star talent is good

in the past

[deep lodge]

I find it really good

[tacit tulip]

There's no reason not to take it, but it's very much a dumping ground for leftover star talents

[solid python]

I guess I can just max loot pile and respawn first

[hidden sphinx]

Star talent is only helpful if you got % stat boosts and extra star points

[deep lodge]

Better samples, better damage, more accuracy to maxout crit, and usually not hard to max

[tacit tulip]

it's specifically not effected by bonuses, just a flat increase

[deep lodge]

Respawn is not useful if you don't AFK in W5, or active BB/BM/Vman

[tacit tulip]

which is the only reason it's not great

[hidden sphinx]

Oh that’s even worse lol

[fringe stratus]

Is there a list or sheet out there that shows which sailing treasures are used for other things?

[solid python]

my highest main stat rn is only like 1050 and that's with some % lol

[green eagle]

[hidden sphinx]

True but respawn is the most important to get in any world

[tacit tulip]

If it was changed to include all stats I'd say the star talent was A tier

as it's basically +300 bubble 1

[solid python]

I may start playing w5 soon so the w5 isnt the worst

I'm missing a bit of acc tho so I've been waiting for shaquracy levels and stuff

[deep lodge]

Anyway, loot pile is 100% priority since sailing is so good

[undone steeple]

what is the "evo chance upgrade level" number?

its "300" by default but mine is in %?

[hidden sphinx]

First few maps you’ll get through easy even if you don’t have 1B dmg after that tho you’ll need to just focus on dmg

[solid python]

yeah my sailing feels to be progressing really slow

[hidden sphinx]

It’s the upgrade in the plant unlock area

[solid python]

so more than doubling my chests will definitely help

[tacit tulip]

Unless you really want something behind a portal (gathering resources, stamp piggie) you generally only want to push w5 portals if you can MK

[dreamy merlin]

does crescent shrine buff active xp or not

it says it does in cons but not on the shrine

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah

[undone steeple]

yeah but the .xls has a 300 number and mine is in %. in your case the number is 196?

[dreamy merlin]

alr

[hidden sphinx]

No the number is 228

[undone steeple]

ahh its the lvl

[hidden sphinx]

Ye

[undone steeple]

im stupid

welp mine is 12.6 days LMAO

[hidden sphinx]

Not really

[undone steeple]

(to get t5)

[green eagle]

not worth it

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah that’s not worth the time

[green eagle]

you'll get them naturally, just work on upgrading more

[hidden sphinx]

Maybe you get lucky maybe not

[green eagle]

right now i get at least 5 t5's every few hours

[hidden sphinx]

Just upgrade everything else to get more bits and faster growth time (for more bits£

[undone steeple]

yea its whatever really, was just a question of wether i was missing out ornot

[green eagle]

you're not missing out on something that will take days to get

for gaming, unless it will take less than 2 total days to get it

don't grind for it

you will get it faster by just upgrading things

[deep lodge]

Your log book multi will not even go up by much by getting T6+, so it's really a waste of time to farm it actively

[green eagle]

like for instance say you waited 12.5 days to get that one t5 plant

[signal osprey]

T6 is the thing you do when your snail resets

[green eagle]

you could've upgraded other things and by day 6 you could have it

[signal osprey]

Because you cant earn bits to upgrade things anymore

[undone steeple]

yeah i was juts asking because I just spent a few resources upgrading the bubble

[deep lodge]

Haven't gotten a reset yet (snail lvl5), but i'm starting to fear

[undone steeple]

but I might get more by just keep upgrading it instead

[green eagle]

i almost had heart palps earlier because i went to upgrade my snail and he failed. luckily he didn't reset

[signal osprey]

Level 5 is way to early to care about resetting

Getting a reset at anything below 11 or 12 is barely even a setup back in the big picture

[hidden sphinx]

Can’t wait until I got the last 3 plants man

[deep lodge]

I heard you should encourage at lvl10?

[signal osprey]

It feels worse than it actually is

[covert prawn]

Is their a "Gaming for Dummies" guide? I understand the basic mechanics of Gaming, but not the min max ways of Gaming. Like when to pop the Chemicals, how best to grind T5/T6 plants, etc. I hate Gaming... I am also terrible at Poing. xD

[signal osprey]

I reset at 10 and I'm already back again

No encouragements

[deep lodge]

That's still a month of mail - bit less with snail upgrades tho

[hidden sphinx]

There’s an excel sheet that’s basically a for dummies guide to a fair few skills and account bonuses

Not sure the link tho

[deep lodge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[signal osprey]

1 month of mail is nothing ocmpare to the average expected amount of time/mail to hit like a 20+ snail

[covert prawn]

I have that one, I will double check if they updated any info on there.

[signal osprey]

Getting an early reset feels a lot worse than it actually is

Its not a big deal

[deep lodge]

20 snail, that 1M multiplier

[dry sparrow]

Thats a better setup right? first 4 are silk and the last is a duck to maintain exp gain

[hidden sphinx]

You don’t have metal traps?

[deep lodge]

Do full xp when you wanna upgrade equipped traps, otherwise do full qty. That's my strat anyway. Also, always xp on vman

[dry sparrow]

I do

[pulsar heart]

pretty big

[hidden sphinx]

Metal had same shiny rate as silk iirc

[deep lodge]

Finally out of the limbo zone where you can't quite atom high bubbles i guess I'm getting there next resample i think

[dry sparrow]

Feels good havent thought about this one

[deep lodge]

Go in person to the place where the traps are, and check if you're not already at 100% shiny chance. No need for metal then

[green eagle]

so close

[deep lodge]

How did you max kraken before scarab??

[green eagle]

because my vman sat all day fishing

for months

[signal osprey]

A lot of us had krakens maxed before scarabs even existed

[deep lodge]

I'm getting 15 kraken cards a day... While i'm getting 600 skelefish a day at the same time. Feels unfair

[green eagle]

i used dust motes to get my vman's catching up, then i went back for scarabs

he didn't need the efficiency that the card gave, and the higher exp from dust was better for him to level up

[dry sparrow]

You mean that 105%?

[hidden sphinx]

No you got place the trap then check

[dry sparrow]

Im there

I see

[green eagle]

click on one of your traps that are laid out

[deep lodge]

Like this

[green eagle]

it will tell you the shiny chance

[hidden sphinx]

That’s so sexy

[oak hemlock]

8 and 10hours the best

[hidden sphinx]

That’s not sexy

[signal osprey]

What is the minimum requirement for a trap to be considered sexy?

[hidden sphinx]

Big numbers for not a long length trap

No specific minimum

[dry sparrow]

So I dont need metal?

[hidden sphinx]

It’s more like the efficiency

[hidden sphinx]

What you need is to have max trap time length at 20 hours. No more

[deep lodge]

Was that screenshot metal, or not metal? With number of mice, i'd guess not. Then no need.

[dreamy merlin]

I now have 4.27 dr

[dry sparrow]

Those were wooden traps

[hidden sphinx]

🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮

[signal osprey]

I would like to enter my submission into the sexy trap pageant

[dry sparrow]

I know Im just redoing all my traps

[hidden sphinx]

I think I just had an accident in my shorts

[deep lodge]

Smells like 40h tho

30h maybe

[signal osprey]

That bar is 30% full

And it says 7hr

[hidden sphinx]

The bar shouldn’t be that far along if it says 7hr

[deep lodge]

Wait what direction does the bar go? Does it fill up, or empty?

[hidden sphinx]

Fill@up

[deep lodge]

Ah yeah makes more sense

[signal osprey]

Fills up from left to right. Its a 10hr

[dry sparrow]

Yeah my question was about using silk or metal for 20h

[deep lodge]

Silk for more critters, metal will not give you more shiny since you're already at 100%

[hidden sphinx]

Metal if you need extra shiny chance to reach 100% otherwise silk

[dry sparrow]

yeah, will keep it on silk

its already on 100%

[hidden sphinx]

And just remember to use eagle eye every 20 hours

Collect all those critters

[signal osprey]

Eagle eye gets pretty funny later on lol

[hidden sphinx]

Does the rift auto collect work with the recent trapper drone change that allows chars to get xp from traps even tho BM can place them?

Ik it’s still better to use EE but curious

[signal osprey]

I think it does

[dry sparrow]

Even with the rift bonus?

[signal osprey]

I believe the only problem with auto trap is shinies because you dont get prayer

Although I've never used auto trap so dont know for sure

[hidden sphinx]

The rift auto trap just doesn’t seem that helpful ngl

[deep lodge]

Rift bonus will collect on first character on which you login and use his shiny chance I believe. It's fine if you login on BM first, but you loose the bonus of logging in on DK for more build

Oh is it just the prayer problem? Not shiny chance?

[signal osprey]

Thats because its not helpful

Its an objective loss in power just for QoL

[dry sparrow]

So I still have to login everyday to get the rift bonus? or if I leave for 3 days it will collect automatically every 20h?

[deep lodge]

No, Lava wants you to connect every day. Same for NBLB, snail mail, and many others

[dry sparrow]

Alright, cuz I dont play everyday lol

[deep lodge]

(not 100% about snail mail tho, but would make sense)

[hidden sphinx]

What lvl does kitsune need to be to cancel out its negative while still speeding up growth time?

[deep lodge]

lvl 0

4x faster for 3x less is always a benefit

[hidden sphinx]

Okay lemme rephrase

What lvl should it be at to be worthwhile to always leave on

[signal osprey]

If you check the garden often enough to not let plants idle at T4+ its better regardless of level

[hidden sphinx]

Or does that just depend on how often you check

[deep lodge]

It only depends on how often you check

[hidden sphinx]

Okey

That’s calm

[deep lodge]

If you come back after 12h with kitsune to all T4, you lose 66% of what you'd normally get

Since the loss is always the same, no matter the level

[hidden sphinx]

My evos aren’t that fast for that to happen with kitsune

11m with 18.5% upgrade

[deep lodge]

Then it's probably good to use it, it's also gonna speed up your shell levels

[signal osprey]

Personally I would only use it if you're trying to really push your shell hard or want T6 evos

[hidden sphinx]

It’s fairly helpful with doot

[signal osprey]

But I also dont like checking gaming so Im a tad biased

[undone steeple]

is troll gear better than chiz gear?
my max dmg increase a bit but my min damage went down drastically

[hidden sphinx]

Given that every 2 hours I should go onto other chars

[hidden sphinx]

I like checking gaming seeing that and construction are the only things to do in w5 while active ES

[sick sentinel]

troll is better especially when you start stacking stats

[deep lodge]

You don't really care about min damage

[hidden sphinx]

Just annoying that the game is so unoptimised you can’t be consistent in ping while farming on ES

[undone steeple]

not even on active?

[low snow]

Its neat for active if youre barely oneshotting. But other than tha

[signal osprey]

Early game min damage is actually decent for active but the stats will outscale it eventually

[undone steeple]

i mean my es always eventually stops oneshotting

[deep lodge]

You quickly get to the point where you one shot mobs anyway

[hidden sphinx]

Min dmg is only helpful for working out where you can active bubo when you still need poison

[deep lodge]

pretty much

[undone steeple]

im not even at the point where i can active bubo yet

can't get the reset cooldown skill to 200 yet

my max is 180

[hidden sphinx]

That’s when you still use poison

[sick sentinel]

you can do bubo before 200, it just gets better after

[undone steeple]

idk anything about active bubo really

[hidden sphinx]

You can active bubo with poison when tenteyecle is under lvl 200, after that you use aura for the kills

And once you have aura min dmg doesn’t matter

Min dmg is useful for poison cause poison only does 10% of your dmg per tick and you want to one shot everything so you need to make sure that the mob health is below 10% of your min dmg

[modest warren]

do you guys think this is worth grinding super chow with or should i wait

[untold arch]

wait imo

ideally get afk prayer i suppose

[modest warren]

i dont have that 🥀

[untold arch]

not sure what other sources of multikill you may be missing

most folks candy their super chow ; in terms of afking dont know what your guy could be doing instead

[modest warren]

its either this or cooking at the moment

[untold arch]

already got 100k all mobs at least for dmg?

[modest warren]

yeah

only zow i dont have is boop

[untold arch]

have 100m all w1 mobs from deathnote?

[modest warren]

i dont

was planning on this to help with that

[untold arch]

that can help overall

yeah, can prob leave him parked there if nothing else, but will definitely take a fair bit of time

[modest warren]

maybe i candy w1

then send him back to the kitchen

[green eagle]

one day i'll get that big roll, i know it 🎲

[hidden sphinx]

What’re you on?

[green eagle]

that is my 2nd 5 figure roll since w5 came out. my first was literally 5 minutes before i rolled that one

i was stuck on 3.9k for MONTHS

[cosmic tendon]

Hope

[jagged kiln]

hey guys, what should i buy first from the world 5 merit shop?

[graceful pecan]

Is upgrading nugget 1st priority or bits?

[hidden sphinx]

Still better than mine

[sick sentinel]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[cosmic tendon]

It’s IE go to w5 gaming

[jagged kiln]

thanks

[cosmic tendon]

Superbits?

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

not much to brag on

[graceful pecan]

No the regular bits like the value

[cosmic tendon]

Oh balance them, everything scales quickly

[graceful pecan]

Ok thx. Got 1,3xx yesterday up from 35 or so haha

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah the upgrades increase the range a lot over time but 1 or lvls isn’t going to make a difference

[green eagle]

don't rely on nugget for anything. it will always let you down

[cosmic tendon]

The nug pulled is more luck

[vernal iris]

skill issue

[gilded orchid]

Credit card issue

[vagrant thicket]

Guys help me

It's possible?

To get the emerald rhinestone

[tame kraken]

So do people still think world 6 is coming?

[hexed crescent]

No.

[coral hull]

@tame kraken Yes, lava is good man

[signal osprey]

Next update went into alpha earlier today

So no the game hasnt been abandoned

[sleek fulcrum]

How do you see the alpha info?

[scarlet pawn]

The damage between my main and my other high level characters is way different. 700m vs less than 100m damage. How do I improve my non-mains damage?

[vernal iris]

equipping them with the same gear

and cards

[scarlet pawn]

Damn that's the difference? Thanks doot! Always providing those gains ❤️

[deep lodge]

Do you have recycler converter?

Oh wait you put a screenshot

[vagrant thicket]

No

I just checked

[tacit tulip]

typically it's gear or talent level descrepencies

[vagrant thicket]

Btw w4 pets only tsar so

[tacit tulip]

"main" character tends to get the most books 😄

[stuck elbow]

whats the biggest nugget that has been posted here? 😮

[scarlet pawn]

There's definitely some of that for sure. I got my Library going blazing fast now so that shouldn't be a huge issue after the next week or so.

[signal osprey]

He has something he wants to release and its being tested. Assuming nothing ends up broken it will likely be released later today or tomorrow

[deep lodge]

Honestly, getting 5k spices look grim. You're getting 100k progress every 2m, so 1 spice every 2m. If you use the star talent, you can claim it every 2min too so that's perfect. You need 5k spices, that's 10'000 minutes of constant claiming, which is 6.94 days of constant claiming. Doable if you don't plan on sleeping.

[vagrant thicket]

Or eating or living

Or breathing taking baths

[stuck elbow]

i guess the game hasn't been abandoned 😮

[deep lodge]

Shiny doot!

[echo crag]

we can only hope for good news

[signal osprey]

Its almost certainly just a new content update

Or QoL

Maybe we get small companion adjustments but it almost certainly wont be anything significant

[deep lodge]

A week back, a mod was talking about "a good middle ground" or something

[echo crag]

free roll everyday would mostly fix it

[deep lodge]

#idleon-gen-chat message

[stuck elbow]

i would be content with earning pet pulls from hitting certain guild point milestones... but that would require everybody to be in a guild

[low snow]

Where do you see that alpha has had an update?

Will he at least start talking again and acknowledge that the current system is not exactly legal in lots of countries?

[signal osprey]

If he had any news that we wanted to hear then he would have told us already

[deep lodge]

Websites like this one: https://steamdb.info/app/1476970/history/

[signal osprey]

He doesnt think the pet system is a problem

Manage your expectations accordingly

[low snow]

IOS store does think so tho

[deep lodge]

With time passing and previous good reviews fading away, the recent rating is really tanking

[fast summit]

What if his keyboard broke

[signal osprey]

Then I would be impressed that he was able to make an update

[low snow]

He can't pull a skinners here really.

[atomic kiln]

im sure he can afford a new keyboard

[low snow]

https://tenor.com/view/skinner-skinnerkids-kids-gif-23476710

[hexed crescent]

source?

[signal osprey]

Common sense

[low snow]

With shiny rgb for faster coding

Might as well get some coding socks

[signal osprey]

Why would he release it that way if he didnt think it was reasonable

[low snow]

Major lapse in judgement

[hexed crescent]

Because the mob would have broken his knee caps if he didn't pay up

[signal osprey]

And he knows how mad we are about it so if he tells us that hes changing it that would be a good thing

[atomic kiln]

well at a point lava will give us news if its the pet situation or the game itself and new updates

[signal osprey]

But he hasnt told us that

Because he would be lying

[barren veldt]

Did lava say anything?

[atomic kiln]

no

[echo crag]

probably wont until the patch hit

[atomic kiln]

if he did it would be in future content blog or new updates/patch notes

[low snow]

Maybe he got hit by [king crimson]

[hexed crescent]

Be real though, there could be many reasons Lava hasn't given us an update. Seems very possible he knows he fucked up and have no idea how to fix it

[stuck elbow]

maybe he believes that actions speak louder than words 😂

[signal osprey]

But if he agreed that there was a problem then he would say that

[barren veldt]

Just make it more easily optainable by f2p

[signal osprey]

Because if he said that it would immediately quell a lot of the discontent

[echo crag]

meh talk is cheap, we will see with the patch waht he want to do

[low snow]

Scratch easily. Reasonably is enough

[atomic kiln]

i dont think he thinks he fuckd up, we are mad because of the currency. if the pet update was obtainable another way we wouldnt have been complaining, so the update itself is fine.

[hexed crescent]

Based on... ? Past experience? You're making big assumptions without knowing the person. This hasn't been how he does things in the past

[signal osprey]

He's also never released a system like this before either

[graceful remnant]

He could just be calculating the path to the biggest bags and in analysis paralysis as he quantifies the different possibilities

[hexed crescent]

Speak for yourself, I want the pet system gone 😂

[signal osprey]

Well you're going to be massively disappointed with the next update then

[atomic kiln]

just because u didnt get doot?

[crude oxide]

Straight up antihero lmao

[hexed crescent]

No, because it sucks overall? For the many reasons people have been crying about it for the past, what is it, 12 days?

[hollow wasp]

Noone crying anymore

[hexed crescent]

Not being integrated into breeding, would be a gacha regardless of currency, etc, etc.

[versed cypress]

the reason ppl have been crying is because of the mechanic to get the pets and the p2w gacha no pity shit currency not because of the pet bonuses

[low snow]

Would you talk this way if you didn't have doot?

[atomic kiln]

the reason people have been complaining isnt because the pets came, its because it went gatcha like crystal said

[atomic kiln]

do i have doot?

[hollow wasp]

I don't have doot too and it's OK, this is single player game. U just progress slower than others without, it is what it is

[low snow]

You tell me cowboy

[hexed crescent]

I have seen many complaints about the system itself. You guys realize that Breeding is already a skill, right?

[versed cypress]

if anything the only reason i see to complain about doot itself is because the bonus should have been somethign that came once w6 was out to make w5 systems redundant

[atomic kiln]

i dont, gonna be nice to have him, but its not like it ruined my gaming experience, its the same as before

[versed cypress]

butthe pets themselves are actualy good the bonuses are nice

its just the entire gacha system that is shit

[atomic kiln]

finally back to QQ

[hexed crescent]

I don't feel like it was needed. I would have prefered if he worked on finishing w5, etc

[low snow]

My statement be erased then

[versed cypress]

i agree doot wasnt needed but its not like doot itself is a bad thing, its just a system that wasnt needed at the moment when w5 is the important one

[echo crag]

pet follower was something that was promised long ago

[atomic kiln]

yeah, i agree i would rather have this later after w5 was finished

[signal osprey]

Well dont worry hes back to working on W5 now that companions are out

[versed cypress]

pet followers were promised before, and were said to have different things than what we got (free auto loot still waiting)

[signal osprey]

Auto loot will be next batch for sure

[versed cypress]

probably on a green pet

[echo crag]

.0001% chance

[versed cypress]

i dont think white batch pets will change

[hexed crescent]

1½ hrs in and my goblin just died 🤡

[true obsidian]

i believe rattler should stay behind

[graceful remnant]

What pow are your pets? Ish. I'm not sure when I should try pushing progress. Been lazy and unlocked a few new ones last night

[dapper prism]

pet power is nearly irrelevant

u can get all spices at like 5k, better 10k

its about the combo inside !guide

the enemy will basically never hit you

[hexed crescent]

I don't think it matters where my Rattler is?

[graceful remnant]

So how do you prevent your lead pet from being 1shot before monolith activates?

[hexed crescent]

My pet pow is 7-57k

[crude oxide]

Pet order does matter

[hexed crescent]

The shield

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/t6OKtW4.png

or for waves
https://i.imgur.com/XaOFgxT.png

for wave 200 i recommend turning of burger auto, makes it a lot easier imo

[ocean lily]

for dk active xp, is citringe probably the best spot?

[summer patio]

with doot should i switch back to 2 bubo? or keep 2 ES?

[signal osprey]

For exp it would be wurms but citringes will be better statues/gold food

[dapper prism]

why 2 bubo, like literally 0 benefit of having 2 bubo

es still going to better with farming/dn/mk stuff

[graceful remnant]

Thanks I've tried following those but my pets get ko'd before it starts rolling. Will try again. I thought I needed more HP to buy a lil time. Only have 5 slots ATM. Praying to RNGesus sounds like good design though

[summer patio]

thought more in regards of double shaman-> alchemy

[dapper prism]

But why? You don't do alchemy passively really, you get 99.99% of your alchemy from active CC

[heavy yoke]

Timing of first block is everything

[graceful remnant]

I may be misremembering but I thought I believed that and then saw axes bouncing and said welp

Maybe block stops the bounce though

Or it's slow enough

[heavy yoke]

Yes, shield block stops bounce

[dapper prism]

also bit rng based on how the enemy shoots stuff

[lime crow]

When are you supposed to hit the first shield to block the first attack? It never seems to work for me

[crude oxide]

To catch the first axe as early as possible, shield doesn't have to be directly over the pet for it to block. Try to time it earlier to absorb all 3 hits. Just need to keep trying until they throw a combo you can block

Its a fairly generous hitbox from shield so time it early

[graceful remnant]

The more I play, the less I respect the design

Thank you for the advice though

[lime crow]

I guess if you have to use it before the first attack, why do you time it at all? why not just leave it on full auto?

[cosmic tendon]

Does anyone have PO advice for when to use pen on the shield?

[dapper prism]

Depends how wealthy you are with resources

Most efficient money/pen/box wise would be at 100 (till u get the +9 box)

[versed cypress]

if you have trouble mantaining the materials on the first order ever 51 or 101 orders completed

[dapper prism]

but if you 3D print enough you can go above

[versed cypress]

otherwise just go untill you drop no need to reset the streak

[vagrant thicket]

I found a way

[cosmic tendon]

I’m at 57 in alpine and depending what I hit I have to go farm

57 (27)

[versed cypress]

you only want to mantain a streak on the 1st order the others you can just leave alone if they get something you dont have or dont want to use

[cosmic tendon]

The first carrier?

[versed cypress]

yup

thats w1 materials and skill mats so its the easies to mantain with out any issue

[dapper prism]

yeh you NEVER use pens on the other ones really, except way later on for cosmic to get colo tickets

The only thing you should/would care about is the first, getting it to 100 (101) for the streak reward.

[cosmic tendon]

6 away rn

[graceful remnant]

I've been trying Shores for a bit now and it was just looking for RNG for the auto to block against a fortunate opener

[versed cypress]

once you have all your boxes soerted and you enter a latter portion of farming and stuff you use the pens to try and force coli tickets from the 6th order

[cosmic tendon]

And then at 101 break it?

[versed cypress]

if you dont want to mantain using resourcess at a 100 streal level yes if you can mantain them just keep going

[dapper prism]

As said, depends on how wealthy you are with resources/pens. If you arnt getting 100's of pens a day, then no point to keep it, you break it. But if/when you are farming a ton of pens later, you can go above and beyond but at that point u should be able to farm them

[cosmic tendon]

Goal is to fill out more points right now

[dapper prism]

Going from 1 to 100 is the same as 101 to 200 etc in terms of rewards. The cost increases upto 100 and maintains the highest cost. so being at 500 or 5k streak is the same cost.

[cosmic tendon]

Ohh ok that makes sense

[dapper prism]

Thing is, no point keeping your streak at over 101 if you arnt getting the daily pens anyways, like, 0 benefit of that.

Just reset it at 101

[rustic garnet]

there is a bbenefit

you don't have to burn 2 pens to reset

[dapper prism]

Guess true

[rustic garnet]

to reset a streak, you need to use 1 pen to get a fresh order, then another pen to deshield

[stoic verge]

What is the best map to do cranium cooking?

[cosmic tendon]

Probably 50 a day if I had to ballpark but seems like I’m still sub 101 streak territory resource wise without it being too painful to manage resources

[heavy moth]

is it really a benefit tho XD

[rustic garnet]

an extra pen?

yes....

is having a few more l1 resources a benefit?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah that’s why penning shield makes me sad

[heavy moth]

guess it depends how many pens a day you make

[dapper prism]

Idk, i get 160+pens/h

[rustic garnet]

per hour?

[dapper prism]

Early on its hard to maintain the anvil resources

[rustic garnet]

what do you do to get that?

[versed cypress]

crystal farming with DK is a massive source of pens

[stoic verge]

How lol

[rustic garnet]

I guess I should try again

[dapper prism]

Bloodbones, super high crystal rate etc..

[rustic garnet]

whats the best W5 pen level?

[viral snow]

You got some of that secret 3D printer going ?

[versed cypress]

red cards, high shrine, talent, and DK

[cosmic tendon]

Crystal chance in the low 10s with Choco

[rustic garnet]

oh bloodbones best?

[cosmic tendon]

40ish?

[heavy moth]

at some point you get way more pens than daily boxes cost so those 2 extra pens are just an early benefit

[versed cypress]

you DO NOT farm crystals for pens in w4 or w5 you do it on w1 2 or 3

[rustic garnet]

ok, w3 bbs?

[dapper prism]

When i started pen/dice farming, i was at around 10 to later 12ish/h at pots.
Bloodbones were like 32 to 35ish/h (back 1.5-2 months)

[cosmic tendon]

By that point I’d imagine it’s probably pretty quick to the point where ur only po for tickets

[stoic verge]

Whats the best map for cranium?

[rustic garnet]

I'm already 1/10th complete on myraid, I really don't have that much more left tbh

[versed cypress]

w3 bbs, w2 snelvy, w1 i think its beans i think or giga frogs

[rustic garnet]

what is your crystal chance on your DK?

[cosmic tendon]

Thanks all that was informative for me

[versed cypress]

when does myriad start to give less???

[rustic garnet]

I thought it maxed at 100k?

[dapper prism]

Id still recommend pots over snelbie as you get glass shards for stamp

[versed cypress]

last map of w5 if you can handle it

[stoic verge]

Was that an answer to me?

[cosmic tendon]

I hear ppl say with poison u want 10% of min dmg to be mobs max hp

[stoic verge]

Ah okey ty

[versed cypress]

well yeah pots is better for all the drops you get extra

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[versed cypress]

no the answer for you was either the last map of w5 if your bubo can hanlde it, or citrines

[cosmic tendon]

At that point u can just move around and 2 birds one stone any map u need to farm for other purposes

[rustic garnet]

100,000 appears, to me, to be the limit on Myriad

[sacred verge]

Did a alpha testing for new update release?

[rustic garnet]

Is there a new alpha out? I would love to hear how doot is fixed

[full monolith]

Soo. I just reached into w5. What should i do now. All into divinity ?

[rustic garnet]

check the pin for a suggestion, but yes

[cosmic tendon]

Celebration time come on

[dapper prism]

@stoic verge @rustic garnet @viral snow
Sorry just double checked, not 161/h was around 131/h 😄

[rustic garnet]

seems fine to me

[dapper prism]

This in under 8h

[cosmic tendon]

Are u calculating that rate yourself?

[rustic garnet]

what is your CC?

1049/8

is 131

ish

[viral snow]

Thats more than Ive ever looted i guess

[dapper prism]

Yup, and it was under 8h, but didnt bother to convert to minutes xD

Stats if anyone cared/needed

[rustic garnet]

what is your crsytal spawn chance?

[dapper prism]

Not sure, on bubo atm and its 1/30 should be same on dk

[cosmic tendon]

How are u so few giants spawned?

[rustic garnet]

k, double double cards?

[dapper prism]

Weekly reset

That's why i setup DK for Orb stacks and kills

https://i.imgur.com/6B2LIty.png

[cosmic tendon]

Oh it happened mid farm

[rustic garnet]

ok, so that's the target for the pens....

[dapper prism]

No, pictures are referesed

Screenshot my stats, then did the under 8h farm (overnight/sleep)

[cosmic tendon]

Ahhhh Ty

[atomic kiln]

i need more

[dapper prism]

Also vman having +20s on dk statue for double/triple statues helps

So:
1/30 Crystal rate
12x DR
300+ DK talent Orb + 20s vman
=> 130ish pens/h (At bloodbones in my case)

[cosmic tendon]

I imagine ur close to maxed out there

[viral snow]

Didnt know vman buffs DK statue

[cosmic tendon]

It’s at 225 eclipse I think

[rustic garnet]

doot?

[viral snow]

Thats 125 above my max lvl for eclipse

[cosmic tendon]

No way

[dapper prism]

Not sure how Doot would benefit in active dk?

[cosmic tendon]

Book that

[rustic garnet]

get a book...

[atomic kiln]

depends where u farm

[viral snow]

Didnt bother to book eclipse yet

[rustic garnet]

oh slug?

[dapper prism]

Oh yeh, the discussion was bloodbones

[cosmic tendon]

It’s a good one to do such as that on

[rustic garnet]

+10 points from all div, +25 from slug

[cosmic tendon]

Books are free at the local library

[viral snow]

What lvl should i aim for ?
Currently max book would be ~150

[atomic kiln]

well i can confirm thats pretty close, i was at bloodbones and after 21 hr i had 2700+ pens

[cosmic tendon]

150. Any increment of 25

Less than the 25 breaking point doesn’t matter

[atomic kiln]

now my crystal chance is 1/27 😄

[cosmic tendon]

125 is chow anyways which requires some power to be useful

[viral snow]

Obviously yeh 😂
Its been a long day

[dapper prism]

Vman eclipse unlocks

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1089741661225103470/1109334031927083038/image.png||

[atomic kiln]

my crystal stats:

[dapper prism]

Ha, Noob stamps!

https://i.imgur.com/w9aKBIi.png

Guess that shrine makes a big difference!

What level is your shrine?

[atomic kiln]

i just started today focusing on the stamps, im producing 67m mats for crystals a day now 😄

[hexed wigeon]

best class to farm rare drops on? DK?

[atomic kiln]

so ill have it up pretty high soon

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/diOOkTj.png

[dapper prism]

ES for drops from mobs from wormhole (e.g. glass, nuggets, etc.
DK for drops from all other mobs, like miniboss, crystals, etc.

[hexed wigeon]

Thanks!

[atomic kiln]

its almost lvl 20 😄

woooooohooo just got past 9k stamps

thats starting to look very beautiful

[vocal flower]

Omg finally unlocked the stupid Christmas tree

[dapper prism]

lmk what the crystal rate gets at lvl 20 😄

[candid helm]

the bonus droprate on the orb is multiplicative right?

[rustic garnet]

where are yous eeing the 299 from?

[atomic kiln]

IE

[deep lodge]

Congrats, you only need to sacrifice sleep, not eating anymore!

[dapper prism]

Afk

[atomic kiln]

im never gonna EVER finish does up

[languid vapor]

How the hell do people get so high nuggets in gaming?
Im checking shovel a lot
I upgrade the shovel a lot
I use dk to speed up shovel time (got 2 dks)
I use the god that has a chance of gaining gaming time for more shovels
I just cant do anything else-
Im stuck at 1.7k while some people have 200k+ :/

[dapper prism]

Rng with a side of rng

Also higher shovel level increases the range

[rustic garnet]

Why not?

[atomic kiln]

just luck

[candid helm]

skill issue

[deep lodge]

Damn boi, how long do you spend on your DK?

[languid vapor]

“Skill issue” ;-;

[atomic kiln]

only way i finish them is if lava was putting in a auto spend pen system, because its boring

[cosmic tendon]

Have u tried moving the shovel to a luckier spot

[rustic garnet]

fair!

[atomic kiln]

idk, a few weeks?

[deep lodge]

It's already in the game, you're spending like 5 a day? :p

[candid helm]

mine's at 263 if it makes you feel better

[viral snow]

Whats your recommended lucky spot ?

[rustic garnet]

Remember, shovels dig, different spots are different

[languid vapor]

Bro my luck is wierd asf
I got a 0.1% chance in one try
And then after that im unlucky as hell

[cosmic tendon]

It’s all about gut feeling, visualize and manifest

[languid vapor]

SKILL ISSUE 👍👍👍

[atomic kiln]

im spending 20 a day, its maxed... i just earn way more than that lol, and im talking about a auto spend (hold mouse left click in and spend them 1k in a 1 minute)

[candid helm]

it be like that

[viral snow]

0.1 is pretty lucky
Obviously your has been used up for that

[languid vapor]

LMAO

[deep lodge]

Yeah I know, I was just making fun of this collider upgrade

[viral snow]

Imma consult some tiktok manifesters for my next dig spot

[languid vapor]

and i also got evergreen tree in one try when it was 0.6% chance

[atomic kiln]

yeah its something, but its more a laugh

[languid vapor]

But after that im NEVER lucky lmao

[viral snow]

Used up all your luck
Get hit by a bus in between and your nuggets might increase

[vagrant mountain]

really? I've been digging in the same spot

[deep lodge]

Eyyy

[rustic garnet]

you should definitely try a different spot, same chance, but it works 100% of the tiem better

[cosmic tendon]

It changes nothing other than the outcome

[vagrant mountain]

[cosmic tendon]

Schrödingers dig spot

[languid vapor]

LMFAOO

[rustic garnet]

See? I moved it and got a bigger nug than you did

[vagrant mountain]

damn how did you know the size of my nug

[viral snow]

Solid evidence

[cosmic tendon]

Wowow plz show the 2k spot

[deep lodge]

I'm convinced

[rustic garnet]

There, but MAKE SURE the controller same spot

[cosmic tendon]

Actually you already got it

[rustic garnet]

or you imbalance the shakras

[candid helm]

gotta count the pixels

[cosmic tendon]

So it’s not there anymore

[viral snow]

That does not feel like a 2k spot
Youre gatekeeping arent you ?

[rustic garnet]

You got me

I used photoshop to hide my perfect shovel location

send 2 doots for exact location

[viral snow]

Knew it
Thats a 500 max spot

[royal sierra]

what if I don't have the controller yet

[rustic garnet]

Then max I can offer is a 1750 spot

[royal sierra]

[viral snow]

@rustic garnet
Liar
https://i.imgur.com/kVuPEyu.png

[languid vapor]

Hey im pretty unlucky sometimes

A fire alarm went off in a hotel i was in and i got scared asf

I was in the taal hotel (near the taal volcano) when the volcano erupted (it was inactive before) and there was an earthquake, volcano, and storm at the same time. (I was trapped in the hotel) and a long time ago a tornado passed very close to where i live and i was so close from dieing

Now can i get a good nugget?
(Everything i said really happened i swear 💀)

[candid helm]

i'll take the 577 if you don't want it

[rustic garnet]

you missed the spot!

[cosmic tendon]

U need to be directly under slightly to the left of ur 17k nugget

[rustic garnet]

exactly

You know my spot already boogie, shh, don't share

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/lHAx721.png
even 2k would do me good

[atomic kiln]

im gonna get that money multi up in the sky

[languid vapor]

Lets go atleast i beat someone 💀

[lavish cloak]

https://sadeth.idleonefficiency.com - someone tell me my next goals.

[languid vapor]

99% of the rest of the community beat me tho

[deep lodge]

Put oil in all your forges

[lavish cloak]

done. next.

[signal osprey]

I would prio copper bar vial over green stacking bars

[deep lodge]

Use your DKs refinery skill

[signal osprey]

Especially if you're working on eclipse skulls. You can get a lot of forge progress while candying that out

[candid helm]

what trophy do you guys use on vman

[lavish cloak]

done on the active one. saving up 40 hours on the labrat to get more candies.

[low snow]

For skilling?

[vocal flower]

Does cc boost sigil rates as well??

[low snow]

No

[rustic garnet]

why is copper bar vial good for that?

[proud olive]

is it useless to put golden hamster on SB? or it doubles the afk time on sailing when it activates?

[low snow]

Proc chance adds

[signal osprey]

You get forge progress when you use a candy on SB because of the forge talent

[candid helm]

for combat stuff, whether that's farming crystals or bosses

[rustic garnet]

I know but you said copper bar vial?

[lavish cloak]

mostly i'm looking for non-daily goals, like which stamps to boost, or what materials to farm other than just "the next vial"

[heavy moth]

easiest bar vial to finish

[signal osprey]

Yeah you would forge copper bars to max the vial

Its that or iron but copper is faster

[deep lodge]

You need to empty the forge each time right? That's like, less than a million copper each time 💀

[atomic kiln]

stamps 10k, GT 10k and skill bubbles further up, resample, get glitterbug, divinity all 80,

[signal osprey]

You dont need to empty the forge

[rustic garnet]

I feel my forge is no where near fast enough to get 1050 million copper bars

am I crazy?

[deep lodge]

Well, you're so far ahead of me that i'm struggling to find long-term goals ^^'

[signal osprey]

Nobodies forge is good

You just use a lot of candy and hope for the best

[rustic garnet]

k

but 1050 million?

is that reasonable?

[low snow]

Small candies

[rustic garnet]

or is that like a pipe dream?

[signal osprey]

Plenty of people have done it myself included

[atomic kiln]

all u need is a lot of blue candy and use ur archer to get it up

[rustic garnet]

k, all forges going on copper?

[deep lodge]

You sure? My forge gets full (on copper) in a few afk minutes, but it only empties itself once a day it seems

[cosmic tendon]

sB art 240 I imagine is the biggest factor

[iron citrus]

question regarding Void boosting Chow on BB - the 100mil kills is this on any char or only 100m on BB?

[signal osprey]

Thats ideal but I ran 1 void and 1 gold as well

[rustic garnet]

ah k

[iron citrus]

sorry for nobb question like lol

[low snow]

Empting is no issue. Storage of forge should be infinite. Just input is gated

[deep lodge]

Only BB

[untold arch]

only on bb

[signal osprey]

Theres no cap to the amount of bars that can be held in the forge

So yes it empties once a day but that doesnt matter

[deep lodge]

Hm I'll have to check that then

[iron citrus]

bugger lol 11 days of afking Green Mush for 1st 100m

[rustic garnet]

spike trap in 30 seconds

its the daily quest

[lavish cloak]

everyone's on tranqi, so divinity will come with just time. resample is a generic "get better" goal. thanks for glitterbug, i did two td's becuase i can only find so many 3 hour chunks in the day to be active at a computer constantly, which bubbles? i've been hourly clicking the production ones up like hearty diggy and hammer hammer up past 1k. grind time is just "be active on bubo" so i'm having a hard time prioritizing that over rack up 10 million dk kills now that you've been active on ES for the last 3 months straight. which stamps are the most level ups for investment? should i only target them daily or try to print things that i can get a billion of an hour to force some up?

[iron citrus]

least slowly getting 100m kills on all mobs by year 2069

[cosmic tendon]

Those are different per person

[rustic garnet]

oh neat

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t think I’ve ever got spiketrap for it

[rustic garnet]

for your W1/W2 world quest?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah

[cosmic tendon]

Definitely not

[rustic garnet]

you do them daily?

[cosmic tendon]

Absurd that it’s a min score

Ya usually

[atomic kiln]

skill bubbles are good, but u can use this like me to find where the caps are:

[cosmic tendon]

For the guild 🫡

[rustic garnet]

feels like you may skip a few 😉

[cosmic tendon]

60% of the time every time

[lavish cloak]

i'm using the tips n tricks alchemy bubble gain% set at 80 to target mostly everything. the last 5% of any bubble is typically hundreds of levels so i'm trying to go with whatever will get me another % in graduating amounts across the board so i can force more bubbles that take things like salts to be hit with no bubble left behind

[signal osprey]

For stamps your biggest goal right now needs to be 200 multitool thats just a must have

[lavish cloak]

i'm at 160 or 170. mostly held back by money gains

[rustic garnet]

what do you mean by this?

[signal osprey]

After that probably crystallin/gold food. Those are both very important and a little on the low side

Also those 2 are cheap so money wont be an issue

[lavish cloak]

#1087501872002256966 message

[atomic kiln]

as for stamps, the best lvl output are the newer stamps, but focusing on having a max mat capasity is important so u can push beyond the limits, so with prayers on and max bags including guild capacity and the star sign + stamp capacity u can get an insane boost, also lvling up the different capacity of the material bags, when those are at cap u can lvl up every stamp u can get ur hands on and then start doing daily lvling with the 95% off

[lavish cloak]

the google doc is pre-set to 75

[deep lodge]

Your chars don't all have many golden hampters, especially when you have 20k in storage that's a lot of sailing time lost

[lavish cloak]

i have 3 million capacity fully buffed on misc items like anvil products (probably 3.2 if i find 100% of them), what should my goal here be?

[signal osprey]

You should have a lot higher on vman with his bag cap talent

[lavish cloak]

i'm more of a log in once a day kind of shithead, so sailing will always be behind for me because i refuse to log in all characters every 2 hours, so i accept that that will be an area where i can improve on.

[lavish cloak]

ah, i've only looked at ES

[atomic kiln]

sounds like its a matter of time and how fast u can collect materials to get them higher, just focus on easy ones and save mats for the hard ones

[signal osprey]

Currently my bubo is at 4.2m but my vman is well over 10m for misc

[atomic kiln]

i also log in once a day or i am active once a day for 2-3 hours

[heavy moth]

another one down

[atomic kiln]

im closing in on 10k

[atomic kiln]

btw, great overall on ur account

[frail mauve]

Which map should i active farm on my bubo for max value from cranium cooking?`
Also what should i focus on at the moment?
https://renbrian.idleonefficiency.com/ profile link

[lavish cloak]

thanks. i've poured a lot of time and love into this. it's been my dopamine generator for a year or so

[atomic kiln]

same bro

[paper sail]

saaaaame

[lavish cloak]

okay nice, i need to 20book that talent

[green eagle]

MK only effects the first drop in a mob's table, right? that's what i think i've been told in the past

[manic elbow]

._. Day 4 of letting mushrooms grow...

[bold quiver]

is it worth maxing this? or isnt the increase as good

[green eagle]

prepare for day 100+

[paper sail]

Whatever you sample from the enemy is what gets boosted by Multikill.

[manic elbow]

I haven't even gotten the formula mutation yet v.v

[green eagle]

you are still in the "Ks" for green bits, that means you probably have lowish evo chance and other factors

so you have at least 150+days of waiting for that t6 brother

[glossy light]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[green eagle]

that is my chances on t6 right now

[bold quiver]

seems very high

[signal osprey]

Using 20 plants isn't worth it

[green eagle]

i'm not

[signal osprey]

You get it faster setting aside 5-10 plants and then getting chems with the rest

[paper sail]

Do you even have the next tier unlocked? 🤔

[green eagle]

i'm showing even if he uses all his spots, he's looking at 150 days

[signal osprey]

But its a lot less than that with chems though the sheet just can't really account for that

[green eagle]

if i'm going for a t6 i'm honestly not going for more than 10 slots

well yeah

i could get lucky rolls and have it tomorrow

[bold quiver]

sheet cant account for your bad luck either '.'

[honest citrus]

i'm a bit confused with doot. do i get all the minor links too? or do i still have to link for these?

[green eagle]

still won't change the avg wait time

you get all bonuses all the time

[honest citrus]

the minor link ones too?

[heavy moth]

trying that but luck isnt on my side

[prisma swan]

got my daily eldritch 😄

[green eagle]

daily

🍄

[honest citrus]

i had 2 eidritches today

[prisma swan]

yea i usually get 2 a day xD

[bold quiver]

does anyone here has a higher multiplier ? and if u have, is it ppossible to reach 800T value (saving a little bit?)

[formal swift]

I’ve gotten 3 T6 plants before unlocking snail and just looking for chems and a few Chem loops

[signal osprey]

The first few islands kind of are daily if you check often

[prisma swan]

142QQ holy moly

[prisma swan]

my whole guild hates my arti rng lol

[formal swift]

Probably unless they all quit now

Some endgame people had really high snail levels and nuggets and such

[bold quiver]

yeah cuz the problem is the snail, mine is only 11

[signal osprey]

Thats the beauty of gaming

[bold quiver]

but icant bring myself to keep gambling

[signal osprey]

It doesn't give a shit if you're endgame or not

[prisma swan]

3 days = 3 eldritches and 2 new artifacts

[paper sail]

"only" 11

[bold quiver]

isnt 11 low?

[formal swift]

I think some dude have 14 snail

[signal osprey]

Yeah 11 isn't very high

[paper sail]

I mean mine is 3

[formal swift]

It was in achievements thread

I don’t even have snail

[bold quiver]

but the failing odds to reset are already at base 19% so getting trickier

[round elk]

My snail was 14 a week ago

now it´s 2

[bold quiver]

unfortune than, i wish someone knew if we can get to 800T without spending ages

[honest citrus]

looks like you flew too close to the sun

[signal osprey]

You gotta determine that yourself really

[bold quiver]

yeah based on myself and how my gains are, its not possible

[signal osprey]

Even if you found someone with similar bit multi that doesn't account for the base bit level and the achievement multi

So your actual bit gain could be pretty different

[bold quiver]

only if i dont reset my snail and keep increasing it to lvl 18

[hexed crescent]

I call hax

[graceful remnant]

@dapper prism I was able to get 6th pet slot and the rest of the spices unlocked, tyvm for the breakdown again!

[prisma swan]

argggh!

[opaque sun]

11 is like the spot where you consider saving mail and wait for a further update until you get better value per mail

[hexed crescent]

I have gotten 1 upgrade past 2-3 weeks lol

[round elk]

[prisma swan]

dw its slightly worse when compared with 9 days, only 8 total upgrades

[round elk]

more upgrades than lava updates not bad

[bold quiver]

huge

[prisma swan]

yea pretty much since lava is MIA i got blessed. i like this

[signal osprey]

Well if your luck is due to his absence then I'm afraid I have to burst your bubble and inform you that the alpha was updated earlier today

[round elk]

I kinda got cursed not t6 plants for like a week, no artifacts for 2 and I got two frogs

so we are getting an update soon?

[signal osprey]

Assuming there's no major bugs discovered we most likely will yeah

[bold quiver]

does anyone know who did the W4 merit thing? cuz that person had the big brains of placing the 1st priority as (max the eggs capacity )... cant anyone fix that?

[modern plaza]

should i send 1 boat to each island? if i have full chests loaded if a new island chest comes in will it make sure to deposit or will it just get ignored

[prisma swan]

its ok im pretty much done with artis 😛

[modest warren]

could anyone take a look at my IE im just looking for some short term things i could do to my account https://jtsm.idleonefficiency.com

[prisma swan]

i wanted the fury and the bits eldritch and both happened so aye im good

[honest citrus]

work on ur stamps

a lot of em can be upgraded

[modest warren]

that sounds about right

[bold quiver]

fix your maestro

[modest warren]

my maestro is so fucked lmao

[coral goblet]

@modest warren lots of slab items u can easily get by running some dungeons

[modest warren]

i have been doing that actualy ty tho

[paper sail]

Boop AFK card, W5 AFK card set instead of bosses is generally going to be better gains

[bold quiver]

why? just get to dreadlo and candy

[modest warren]

ive tried but ill try again

[bold quiver]

your miner is alreaady 98 god knows why

but unless u candy u are gonna spend so much time trying to catchup

[modest warren]

ok to be fair i never take my miners out of the mines

until recently

[honest citrus]

[modest warren]

i found out printing is better

[bold quiver]

its only 10% better actualy

[modest warren]

sorta

[bold quiver]

without any buff ofc =/

and only the f2p slot lol

[honest citrus]

doot changes that tho

[modest warren]

i p2w player :3

[bold quiver]

what is doot??

[modest warren]

sadly no doot yet tho

[bold quiver]

hahah im just mssing yeah, ive been printing everything since i reached w3 haha,

[modest warren]

thanks for the help tho guys ill be back in a week

[honest citrus]

6x prints on every1

[bold quiver]

kind of a waste i can already get 6x prints on all miners/choppers without doot

what will i do with fish + catching stuff? its useless to me

[modest warren]

atleast my alch isnt laughed at anymore you shouldve seen it a few weeks ago lmao

[bold quiver]

hahahha yeah your alchemy looks fine

[paper sail]

Your per-character settings are kinda whack. Like Junehu is wearing MK prayer, but not MK bubble (but you have the Catching bubble on). Also wearing +dmg star signs instead of +respawn and +afk. KPK Prayer being on also probably bad.

[modest warren]

sorry the bubbles are all ovver the place i never changed since i got the sheep pet or whatever

[stark hearth]

Did this fail to load for me or do you have guys not printing anything?

[paper sail]

Ah, gotcha. Can't tell companions in IE :c

[modest warren]

dont tell anyone i havent resampled since the sailing reset

[lunar edge]

Rift related question. - Im not understanding how to split these dang skulls properly. It seems to just never split after some time, is there a technique to corralling mobs?

[paper sail]

Each skull transfer is a 50/50, does not have to be a close proximity enemy. Just make sure you aren't clearing the ENTIRE map or you lose all skulls.

[opaque sun]

just active on ES or SB

[vagrant mountain]

one more day of mantra gaming 🥹

[opaque sun]

And make sure ES got long enough wormhole duration

[autumn rivet]

wanna be a kind soul and look at my ie :D

[dapper prism]

What god do you have?

[graceful remnant]

Active ES wouldn't work for me, kills them all. I just left my lowest damage active for awhile

[vagrant mountain]

I'm up to nobisect, but sort of all of them cuz doot

[dapper prism]

Oh right, forgot that

[vagrant mountain]

only aligned nobisect to see if it did anything (it didn't)

[dapper prism]

Why not vitalic?

(depending on your dxp claim)

[paper sail]

Wasn't it determined that you don't get anything from divinities you haven't unlocked?

[vagrant mountain]

mantra more exp/h, trying to get TranQi

[opaque sun]

ES is like one of the best to get lava skulls. Failing on him means you didnt book his wormhole duration, or using chainbolt and clearing the entire map

[vagrant mountain]

don't get minor bonuses, but I'm getting all the major bonuses

[bright quail]

any lava news?

[bold quiver]

i can look cuz u have shiba image

[autumn rivet]

https://tamokira.idleonefficiency.com/ cheers

[dapper prism]

Mantra doesnt benefit from dxp, so static 10.
but Vitalic is affects by dxp claims, so 7+ 50-75% whatever your xp claim % is makes it better

[bright quail]

alright ill be back in a few days 🫡

[lunar edge]

Dude, I got a fat SB, and a really long ES wormhole. I guess its just up to luck a bit. okay.

[dapper prism]

Nawh, some people still say they are getting omni procs and stuff without having omni 🤷
Idk i hear all sides all the damn time

[vagrant mountain]

mantra is more overall exp right?

[lavish cloak]

alright. another 620 stamp levels. pretty nice

[dapper prism]

Not necessarily

[vagrant mountain]

I'm getting like 200~ XP/h with 9 on mantra, and let's my bb chow while I'm doing it

have 18x - 38x exp multi on my chars

[dapper prism]

Yeh if you're multi tasking like that it can be good

But faster xp would be full vitalic with dxp claims (if you havent ignored ur dxp claim stuff)

[vagrant mountain]

dxp = double exp?

[dapper prism]

Btw, i believe someone said u still need 1x purrmep link for its sailing/gaming stuff?

[vagrant mountain]

I think I peak like 80xp/h on vitalic on my es

[modest warren]

also do u guys think 100000 alch progress is good per crainium use (im pushing to wurms rn so its not the greatest map)

[opaque sun]

Yes that was me

purrmep needs physical link to activate the minor link even if you have doot

[vagrant mountain]

I think good is relative

[modest warren]

i suppose

[bold quiver]

-Get better tools for everyone (all tools not only the main skill
-Rift skill masterty at least 500 for all areas

• MAX skilled dimwit prayer/ midas minded / Balance of pain
• Work on alchemy, like 1st bubble to 200, 2nd bubble to at least 150, and try to start getting all multi chance bubbles so u get 300% cap, then work on whatever there
  -Upgrade stamps as u can, like the most important ones on skilling area
  Thats it my friend, otherwise u are doing great

[autumn rivet]

Cheers! Tyvm

[opaque sun]

You still get the div 2x main effect from purrmep regardless of link if you have doot tho

[dapper prism]

Whatever you're getting now is irrelevant, since the multipliers on your xp is pretty much the same. At the end you're getting 9xp with 9x mantra, or 10xp with 10 mantras. on each char.
Vitalic would be 7xp per char + DXP chance based on your %, which caps at 75%. Which would be higher if you're properly min maxing for levels.

If one is falling behind you can do vitalic on them for the 7xp + rest on mantra to boost that one lowi.

But either way for now, for you, if you're chowing and stuff then it's fine to have those mantra's running else the bb wouldn't benefit from any xp.

[opaque sun]

mantra is more of an end game style

[bold quiver]

@autumn rivet oh and unlock all shinies u can to lvl 1, thats a good thing, even if u wont level them. (if they are easy to get

[paper sail]

Specifically for doot? Otherwise surely TranQi right

[dapper prism]

why doot, doot is irrelevant in that case? since bear+goat combo dont work for div

[opaque sun]

End game style doesnt mean “change everyone to mantra”

[vagrant mountain]

ohhhhhhhhh thanks for explaining. TBH I thought vitalic was 2xp and 7 div, but it's the other way around 😆😆😆, it all makes sense sry

[bold quiver]

doot players, they dont even understand gods but preach about doot benefits that dont exist!

[autumn rivet]

yea been working on that, got giants eye recently so should speed up there

[opaque sun]

when say you have someone at div140, mantra gives an option to spread around the div exp. Not mandatory tho

[dapper prism]

you can check your dxp chance here:
https://i.imgur.com/TyEaJV1.png

Biggie Hours Card can help and PO box has a bunch too i think?

[vagrant mountain]

thanks, tbh I never paid attention to dxp chance, didn't realise it could get so high

[paper sail]

I guess 🤷 I just 10x TranQi and forget about it

[dapper prism]

The amount of times i see people blame everything on doot is just.. too much xD

[modest warren]

if u hover over it it will say where the bonuses come from

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/wVYAqFY.png

Alch bubble OP xD

[opaque sun]

your es in the lab can still run mindful or mantra

[dapper prism]

Hope you have all gods when running everyone on tranqi even though you have 80s 👀

[vagrant mountain]

me gusta

[paper sail]

Had all gods unlocked before I even unlocked TranQi lol

[dapper prism]

Alternative, run Mantra on Lab alts and TranQi on non lab alts so the mantras boost the non lab ones that fall behind in levels

[dapper prism]

Then at that rate, not worth it. Bigge Hours is an easy 15% (with card double 30%)

But vitalic xp/rate in this case would only be better than 10 mantras if you had like 50%+ dxp

[paper sail]

Right, that's where the 20 level gap between first half and second half came from

[vagrant mountain]

thanks, now I got something else to work on 😆

dxp gaming

[modest warren]

wait what bubble gives dxp

[dapper prism]

green

[modest warren]

ah i was looking yellow

[lean thistle]

!merit

[dapper prism]

Reason why archers will have higher dxp claims than other classes (due to 2nd bubble)
https://i.imgur.com/qSoNFFE.png

[lean thistle]

How do i do merits command for w5?

[dapper prism]

Check pins

[fathom lagoon]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[modest warren]

might have to put some levels in that

[paper sail]

#bot-commands !merit followed by the world number, i.e !merit5

[fathom lagoon]

@lean thistle

[modest warren]

i wonder if i can get full endgame gear on all characters before w6 comes

[vagrant mountain]

!wumbi

[obtuse orbit]

🚫 doot enjoyer, that command is disabled in this channel.

[vagrant mountain]

💀

[dapper prism]

Probably, once you start using omni to spam them salts

Toolbox is working again! I was worried it shut down!

[modest warren]

yeah i need to put omni on a few more characters im not too sure who to put on what at the moment tho so i havent changed it in ahwile

[dapper prism]

(wasnt loading for me a for a few hours earlier)

[rotund gull]

i ran it on maestro and archers for a while before i wanted to start pushing death notes (and print vials with vman). though one of those probably still wants to have purmepp as well. mages and warriors realy like harriep too much for atoms

[modest warren]

i havent started the hardcore atom grind yet so my warriors and mages are articus atm and my vman is nobinsect rn because im trying to push my highscore a little bit right now

my poor poor hunter is forever on purrmep

[rotund gull]

having the beast master worship the mightiest beast is pretty thematic 😄

[modest warren]

true

if you have doot and are in the lab do you get div exp or no

[rotund gull]

you have to be parked in the lab to get gohart div xp AFAIK

[vagrant mountain]

yes, make sure you choose a stance first before jumping into lab tho

[rotund gull]

arctis wont cover it

[modest warren]

yeah thats what i was asking ty

heres to hoping i get doot next week

[vagrant mountain]

good luck! he is very enjoyable

[bold quiver]

its like what happened when technology came and old people couldnt adapt, just keep demonizing!

[fathom lagoon]

Yo question, does maxed out golden sprinkler basically mean 100% chance it doesn’t use up a charge?

[vapid steppe]

When is a good time to start with crystlalmobs farm?

[brittle knoll]

lol no

that would make everyone have inf bits

[bold quiver]

when u are farming dice obols

[brittle knoll]

its 30%+30% of 30% i think

[fathom lagoon]

That’s what has me confused

[vapid steppe]

Any level/condition required to make it worth?

[bold quiver]

its what it sayis, 30% of 30%

[fathom lagoon]

Nah it’s 30% and then 1.5x with each purchase (upto 3 more)

.3 x 1.5(^3)

[modest warren]

its super inconsistent even at max sometimes i get like 10 uses out of it sometimes i get 1

[brittle knoll]

ah mb

wasnt sure

[bold quiver]

not rly, just get your crystal spawn chance as high as u can and farm with DK

[vapid steppe]

When its better DK than Maestro?

[bold quiver]

Since the exact moment u unlock DK

[vapid steppe]

Alright! thanks

[bold quiver]

The moment DK was created maestro lost its function to farm statues/obols etc. Became a full skilling champ

[fathom lagoon]

Doesn’t this mean .3 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5?

[bold quiver]

yes

[rotund gull]

Lava is not the best at describing how the math works

[bold quiver]

its 50% of 30% every time u buy a new one

total is 75%? dont remember how many times u can buy

[modest warren]

doesnt feel like 75%

[bold quiver]

but it is, u can trust

[rotund gull]

Sometimes it triggers 20 times in a row, sometimes 0. Over the long term it averages out

[bold quiver]

its like the 70% of printer go brr from maestro, sometimes u get a ton of rolls, but mostly 2 times

cuz its 70%

[modest warren]

it feels like how math works in risk of rain 2 if anyone knows how the luck works in that game

[fathom lagoon]

Oh nvm that means it’s probably .3 + .3(.5) + .3(.5) + .3(.5)

I thought it was cumulative

[paper sail]

It always triggers 18 times in a row when I want to go to bed and 0 times when I have the next several hours free

[bold quiver]

oh no, its from the base

so each new its from the 30% , not the new value

[fathom lagoon]

Yea that was my incorrect assumption it looks like

Stays w the base

Whack

[rotund gull]

honestly it kind of sucks when it triggers 20 times in a row because you are just stuck there grinding it. getting to 100% would be hell

[modest warren]

isnt that just what happens end game gaming anyway with chem plant

[rotund gull]

yes, but at least that can end

[bold quiver]

yeah it sucks, 30 minutes or 1h of clicking

[fathom lagoon]

“Each additional purchase boosts this chance by 15%!”

Is that so hard

[modest warren]

then its too simple

[rotund gull]

not gonna lie, sometimes i have jsut hit harvest all with a bunch of CH plants to get on with my life

[modest warren]

he needs to make you do math so you dont know what your buying

[fathom lagoon]

Lmao lowkey what it feels like

[rotund gull]

Lava needs to hire a copy editor to go through the game

[bold quiver]

its like going to a math test. Doesnt matter if u know the equations, u need to understand the summary

[fathom lagoon]

Well I 4/4’d it, looking forward to the anguish of 18 times in a row

[fathom lagoon]

Idk what math classes you took brotha

[modest warren]

or it never happens

[fathom lagoon]

😂😂

[paper sail]

I just wish he'd adopt consistent, specific language. Different words for multiplicative and additive bonuses. Or hell, make it like Idle Skilling and specifically say "damage group 2" to know what it is additive with

[modest warren]

there are groups in this game they are just hidden i thought

[vagrant mountain]

how is lava going to make payments on his Rolls Royce with numbers like that

[fathom lagoon]

Gaming & construction are my only joys in idleon rn. Otherwise I’m taking an eternal shit on the div pedestal

[paper sail]

More vs Increased like PoE does

[modest warren]

idk why he doesnt show us tho

[bold quiver]

construction?????? how

[fathom lagoon]

When you have nothing else to do you find joy in the small things like a 1% increase exp cog

[modest warren]

man oh man do i love upgrading all of my td towers 100 times

[bold quiver]

im waiting to get my squire levels way higher so i can swap my exp cogs again

i even bought half the slots for that

[paper sail]

Cog clicker means I can't snapshot my construction obols though 😦

[lyric sequoia]

Omni is fucking up the idea that I'm too poor to craft gear D:

[fathom lagoon]

Damn what if we had cog presets

[modest warren]

i hope we get a 2nd cog page with the baba yaga pet

[bold quiver]

double doot bonuses!

[opaque sun]

why would you need cog presets. You only use exp setup

[rotund gull]

Having 2 full XP bars mushing on each squire would be... interesting

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/monstersinc-sully-mike-door-put-that-thing-back-gif-4553929

[lyric sequoia]

Second cog page..?

[bold quiver]

rookie

[fathom lagoon]

I think he meant a 2nd page to place more cogs on the board lol

[modest warren]

i mean like the whole page

yeah

[bold quiver]

its so expensive buying those pages kkkkkkk

[modest warren]

cog board? idk

my headcanon is they are all on like a cork wall you know

[opaque sun]

Second board just adds more space for the boardwide exp cogs so not really fun sadly

[rotund gull]

I'd be happy to double the player construct XP cogs overall. Who can say no to even faster squire gains?

[bold quiver]

who!

[modest warren]

what if the flaggy unlocks need like 1m+ to unlock the spots

i meant

1b

[rotund gull]

not a problem, squires make a huge amount of flaggy speed too