lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[pearl quail]

Yes yes

2+2=?

[modest warren]

i might buy the rest of the p2w cogs

but ngl im still waiting to see if i wanna put more money in the game

[pearl quail]

Indeed

[vagrant thicket]

5

[modest warren]

literally all i want is lava to say anything it doesnt even have to be going back on the mechanic

im fine with spending like $60 a month lol

[pearl quail]

5 cubed?

[atomic kiln]

think i got to my DR max

[modest warren]

that xp multi tho

[atomic kiln]

yeah its pretty good too 😄

[modest warren]

my level is higher on my vman tho for sure worth it

[low snow]

What was ms cap again?

[stoic verge]

Why should i not put points in this skill when i check often doesn't the skill give passive bonus loot?

[modest warren]

to save points

[opaque sun]

that talent is basically “less chests for more exp”

[boreal sonnet]

More chests > more loot

[spice void]

i would put like maybe one point in if you have people with golden hampters and afk for long periods....

[opaque sun]

The upgrade part of the mechanic is kind of negligible

[stoic verge]

But doesn't the skill give bonus loot?

[opaque sun]

Less chests

[modest warren]

its such a small amount not worth it

[spice void]

no it has a chance to upgrade chests when they are full

[boreal sonnet]

350%

[opaque sun]

You lose 1 chest cap and also lose the “dock” space

[spice void]

but they dont stop going out with the talent so you can wait almost enough time for two rounds of chests... if you time it right

[stoic verge]

No?

[boreal sonnet]

Yes

Go for the extra loot, stonks

[stoic verge]

I just have a extra class set i switch to when claiming sailing

And i leveled the skill

[opaque sun]

48% chest loot upgrade chance, which lava missed to write

[stoic verge]

So is there a benefit to not doing it when i check often?

[opaque sun]

Using talent gives you less chests in total

But more exp

Not using talent gives more chests (loot), but less exp

[stoic verge]

But how

[opaque sun]

Despite what it may seem, its just an exp talent

[stoic verge]

Isn't it just one more chest?

[opaque sun]

You lose the dock space too

[stoic verge]

What do you mean?

[opaque sun]

When you dont use the talent, where do your boats stay?

[stoic verge]

Im sorry if i sound dumb but im very confused XD

[opaque sun]

That efectively acts as an ablative chest space

[stoic verge]

But not having them sail wont they be less effective?

[opaque sun]

So you lose 20+1 chest spaces effectively for using talent

[stoic verge]

Do the dock spaces act as extra chest space?

[opaque sun]

So an account not using talent can hold 30 chests (from normal cap) + 20 chests waiting at dock.

If using talent, you can only hold 29 chests

[stoic verge]

So if my max chests are 28 will i have 56 without the skill?

[atomic kiln]

give me the boss wings!!!! with my DR rate it should be easy!!!

[opaque sun]

28+ 20 captains

So without talent its 48 effective chest space

[stoic verge]

Aah okey

I see

[opaque sun]

And if you check often enough before captains do their 2nd trip, the talent does absolutely nothing

[stoic verge]

So when they are in the docks they hold an extra chest?

[opaque sun]

By using the talent it trades off the “waiting at dock” feature for “throw away the obtained chest to continue exping. Upgrade almost never happens”

[stoic verge]

Okey ty

[sleek fulcrum]

Ooooh shit

TIL

[opaque sun]

captain waiting at the dock immediately fills the chest pile as you claim the chests

[sleek fulcrum]

Time to respec lol

[opaque sun]

so it effectively acts as another chest cap

[spice void]

hmm... looks like i need to make some changes...

[modern plaza]

but your captains aren’t sailing and getting ready to do another load is the only downside

definitely nit worth using the talent if you check at 4hrs and worth if you check >8hrs

[azure bobcat]

So I tested my cc bubo and it seems like I can skip 5000 seconds with a 56k cooldown, not too sure if it is worth..

[atomic kiln]

lava is oniline :O:D

maybe we get will get some news

[deep lodge]

He's been on and off for the past 12 days

[atomic kiln]

oh, i didnt know! i just saw it and i got really excited

[deep lodge]

Maybe one day

[zealous niche]

It will happen now as it always does

All things in the past happened now

All things in the future will happen now

[atomic kiln]

are u okay AJ?

[zealous niche]

Just truth said very obscurely 😛

[atomic kiln]

yeah, u sounded like socrates

[zealous niche]

All things when they did happen, they happened in the present

And when the future arrives to happen, it will happen in the present

[atomic kiln]

dwight schrute, u forgot the K.

middle is Kurt

[zealous niche]

So, everything happens in the present

[atomic kiln]

that is very true AJ

[boreal sonnet]

I thought it was Deez

[feral marsh]

@atomic kiln sometimes Aj sounds like socrates, but normally he has drunk to much than 😛

[atomic kiln]

oh no,

[zealous niche]

Deez knu.. wait

[atomic kiln]

anyhow i had a feeling lava would post today

[feral marsh]

we can be happy if we hear this year sth from him again ....

[atomic kiln]

I really want lava to post, feels like i have waited a year for news

[boreal sonnet]

He already said his reply on youtube

[opaque sun]

then expect another year

[zealous niche]

Link?

I don’t follow the youtube

[atomic kiln]

its been 10 minutes, who can calculate that progress after 24 hr?

[azure bobcat]

I know it might be a waste of candies but would it be a good idea to use candies to get my maestro to the next class?

[feral marsh]

@atomic kiln many 😛

or simple x144

[atomic kiln]

no vids

[atomic kiln]

so u cant calculate?

[feral marsh]

AHHHHHHHHH no darkmode, my eyes

[boreal sonnet]

Not on his main channel

[zealous niche]

Vman is very nice, if you’re talking about the deathnote requirements use BB though

[atomic kiln]

must be on dwight channel

[zealous niche]

Again, link?

[azure bobcat]

yeah I thought about using candies for deathnote with BB + getting maestro to lvl 150 in w1 afk

[atomic kiln]

thats fake and norwegian lol

[zealous niche]

Not sure w1 is best option for leveling but otherwise yes good plan

[atomic kiln]

lol

[zealous niche]

It’s not posted by lava, why would you think that’s valid?

[azure bobcat]

I meant w5 hahaha

[zealous niche]

I hope it’s a troll tbh

[zealous niche]

W5 no candy works, but would be worth putting mman there if they can kill the mobs

[azure bobcat]

btw I have 2 BB, should I just get the deathnote kills on my first BB bc I might class swap my second to DK later on?

[atomic kiln]

wooo zoooming

[feral marsh]

@azure bobcat i think w4 will give you more xp than w5, i dont think that you have that high dmg that you oneshot them wit maestro, (good xp farm for about that lvl should be flombeige)

[azure bobcat]

yeah I would primarly use candies for the deathnote anyway. tbh my deathnote is kinda bad anyway

[vernal iris]

just farm deathnote when you farm materials with your ES 🎺

[azure bobcat]

but is a lvl 96 BB good enough for deathnote? I might level him up to like 150 first if it would make way more sense

[atomic kiln]

who would want this?

[feral marsh]

i dont meant candied meastro lvl, i meant for him in afk farm

and if you wanna farm activly in w1 for dn then mostly your es will be better than your bubo

[zealous niche]

I’ll take the coin

[zealous niche]

How did you reach w5 with such low class levels?

[atomic kiln]

sure, its actually 220 god shards

[zealous niche]

How? 😦

[feral marsh]

and for me, my es farms in afk more kills than my bubo, and my bubo is 486 and es 410

[zealous niche]

I still haven’t afforded the red coin kitchen

[atomic kiln]

god shards stops counting at 99

[azure bobcat]

I pushed with active DK and he got to lvl 150 by reaching w5

[zealous niche]

More how did you get them

[azure bobcat]

while everyone else was in lab

[feral marsh]

god shards are actual the highest coins, and like all coins they are visually locked at 99

[atomic kiln]

then they just act start going 1 for 100 and 2 for 200

[zealous niche]

Account progress catch-up time!

[azure bobcat]

yeah that's why I want vman cause I read a lot of speed up progress stuff about him haha

[zealous niche]

I get that, I want to know how you get the money bonuses high enough to get godshard in the first place

[tight ridge]

guys how do i leave dungeon without it using my attempts

[vagrant mountain]

not sure that you can

[boreal sonnet]

Talk to the green frog and press alt+f4

[atomic kiln]

ur a real funny guy today

[zealous niche]

Only if you can get good enough speedruns and things like the cooking bonus only boost majorly a decent way in, and the critter and souls boost only works if the sum of those are above level 100

[boreal sonnet]

I'm always this funny

[zealous niche]

Vman boosts your account when it’s already decent

[azure bobcat]

ah alright

[atomic kiln]

i remember pulling that one 15 years ago

[zealous niche]

@azure bobcat I recommend working on other account progress then coming back to it

[azure bobcat]

but any advice when to start grinding chow and zow in w1-3? My plan with my lvl 96 BB rn is getting chow in w1-w3 then level to like 150 and then get zow

[zealous niche]

Things like alchemy and stamps and equipment and char levels

[atomic kiln]

I was the all time pusher back in day... but then i only had 1 world to push 😛

[azure bobcat]

eq takes tons of critters and salt, I can't really speed it up sadly

[zealous niche]

Zow is 100k, chow is 1m, did you mix them up?

[azure bobcat]

yeah haha

so hard

[zealous niche]

Yeah.. definitely need to progress in your account in other ways before you’ll benefit from vman if you haven’t zowed w1 yet

[atomic kiln]

i remember when i was thinking 1m was a lot

[azure bobcat]

[zealous niche]

Greenstack glumlee’s oil!

[atomic kiln]

yeah, its on my bucket list

[zealous niche]

Don’t you need plat skulls on everything for vman?

[azure bobcat]

yeah

that's why I was asking about candies

[zealous niche]

So, zow/chow while you’re doing that and progressing elsewhere too

[atomic kiln]

these first

[azure bobcat]

but I will save them up until I get better multikill I guess

[zealous niche]

Nice! Did you farm mobs for the foods? Only have w4/5 foods greenstacked atm

[atomic kiln]

yeah, i got them mostly statue farming with dk

[atomic kiln]

the rest im working on is from daily shop buying

100 days is 4,5m cheese lol

[zealous niche]

Now I miss BigMac and their bot

[atomic kiln]

look at my fishing collection

[runic girder]

Whats the order of stat importance at captains

[atomic kiln]

i need more bank space lol

[zealous niche]

Speed/Loot is best, Speed/Arti next and Speed/Rare after, any other combo last

[runic girder]

So always want speed

[zealous niche]

Speed is the biggest block from later islands

[runic girder]

Do the base stats scale with level or is it a predetermined range

[zealous niche]

Level * base stat

[atomic kiln]

AJ whats ur IE again?

[obsidian nacelle]

god i cant get the recipe from suggmas for the life of me

[runic girder]

Yeh but base stat is always different, does it scale with something?

Or just rng

[obsidian nacelle]

rng

[zealous niche]

Ooh, rng but you get better rolls from higher sailing levels

[runic girder]

Are those values on the wiki?

[runic girder]

Yeh that makes sense

[zealous niche]

Still can get rubbish rolls, so I guess only max scales

[atomic kiln]

IE?

[runic girder]

?

[atomic kiln]

take a look

[obsidian nacelle]

dk only affects drops on a mobs first page right?

[runic girder]

No

[boreal sonnet]

No only on the third page

[runic girder]

If that was the case hed be quite useless at crystal farming

[runic girder]

Or, hear me out now, it works like drop rate

[atomic kiln]

its mainly used to farm statues from crystals

[obsidian nacelle]

damn, so much i dont know. ty guys

[atomic kiln]

for crystal farming it will be important with high crystal chance and drop rate to multiply the drop

[boreal sonnet]

Yeh but it works more like kill count

[gilded orchid]

Why would you even assume it effects the first page only?

[versed cypress]

i wonder where that missconception on the drop rate stuff came from

[atomic kiln]

he is new, why wouldnt he if he doesnt know

[gilded orchid]

because I want to know what logic brought him to that

[atomic kiln]

thats why we need to help him out

[gilded orchid]

like, drop rate only effects page 1

I'm just wondering if people are telling him BS

[boreal sonnet]

Nah drop rate affects page 3 only

[gilded orchid]

It's like knowing nothing about 9/11 but knowing jet fuel can't melt steel beams

[atomic kiln]

just because u understood it right away, doesn't mean everyone else does

[gilded orchid]

bro you are still failing to see what I meant. please re-read

[boreal sonnet]

Multikill affects page 2 and 1

[atomic kiln]

no i understand, but i want the community to be nice to new players

[versed cypress]

i mean the point is to steer ppl the right way and clear their doubts

[opaque sun]

We having misinformation fest in here?

[boreal sonnet]

No

[gilded orchid]

I just wanted to know if someone had been telling him random bullshit like page 1 page 2 related shit

And @atomic kiln here hating lol

[versed cypress]

i do have yhe same question as to where this missconception about the drop rate stuff comes from, cause its not the fisrt person that has asked if DR only affects one page of the card drops

[gilded orchid]

Yep

[zealous niche]

Feels like it

[gilded orchid]

been happening a bit

[zealous niche]

Drop rate affects everything

[versed cypress]

a lot of ppl seem to think tat DR doesnt affect the rare bags or the mega rare bags pages on the cards

[opaque sun]

multikill only affects the base drop map, which is the first item on the card.
Dr is good at everything.
Kill per kill type of kills doesnt do anything for drops

[atomic kiln]

i was not hating, i thought commenting or questioning his iq was reckless

[zealous niche]

ES only has increased mob drops from the mobs coming out of its portals

[gilded orchid]

You are STILL.FAILING To comprehend what I fucking said bro.

can't tell if you're legit trolling

or can't comprehend shit

[lunar reef]

I thought retirement was meant to chill people out not make them angry

[atomic kiln]

is this nice?

[gilded orchid]

Yes ?

It's a fkn question

[zealous niche]

Some people just confidently come here and say wrong things, that’s what would have happened

[gilded orchid]

with legit sincere meaning behind it

[atomic kiln]

no, ur saying he is stupid

[boreal sonnet]

Slightly wrong there because DK orb functions as more kill per kill

[gilded orchid]

LMAO

Bro

ur really annoying me

[zealous niche]

He’s asking who told him that and how did they get there

[opaque sun]

DK applies effective DR (technically gimmie gimmie mechanic) on any mobs on screen.
ES applies DR on just the basic mob ( wormhole mobs).
ES and DK buffs anything that the affected mob drops, not by the rarity of the item

[gilded orchid]

Gosh darn righteous white knights lmao

[atomic kiln]

if that was ur intention I was wrong, but it could be read both ways

[zealous niche]

Like, not questioning the dude who accepted being told that dr only affects page 1, but questioning how that information came to being in the first place

[gilded orchid]

the annoying part is it was explained, by me, 3 times and you refused to swallow it lmao

[atomic kiln]

i was on top on defenese at the time

[gilded orchid]

[atomic kiln]

anyhow, lavas has been a long time, im so excited to see any news! cant wait!

[gilded orchid]

But seriously there is someone saying lies about drop rate

I was in here 3 days ago and saw a similiar thing

[boreal sonnet]

drop rate is a scary mechanic

[gilded orchid]

about page 1 page 2

[atomic kiln]

drop rate can be a very confusing subject

[versed cypress]

to be honest there are a lot of thing that are not epxlained about DR and miltikill

[gilded orchid]

mmm yeah true

but kinda not important until you're in the 0.1% of players

"end game"

[boreal sonnet]

It's not even important then

[gilded orchid]

Min maxing multikill gmush ect

DR break points

I should have them pinned in group chat 1 sec

[atomic kiln]

like drop rate works very different from what ur farming even with the same drop rate, u kinda have to look at the drop rate of the item ur trying to get

[boreal sonnet]

You don't have dr breakpoints at afk

Unless you active gmush 🤨

[deep lodge]

Use DK instead, much better for statues

[atomic kiln]

like someone doesnt get is that going from w1 to w5 will destroy ur drops lol

[deep lodge]

Get maximum crystal spawn chance, max orb, max DR

[gilded orchid]

no no I meant min maxing things such as - gmush, DR break points

[atomic kiln]

crystal farming for now is only good for w1-w3 with my drop rate i can do w4

[gilded orchid]

too low for crystal farming

you will hate yourself

[atomic kiln]

my drop rate

[gilded orchid]

Grind time bubble poppin off

[atomic kiln]

12k gt

[gilded orchid]

someones a dirty little doot roller

[atomic kiln]

never got doot

[gilded orchid]

Spend more

[atomic kiln]

im focusing on the weekly

😄

[gilded orchid]

Im only logging in weekly lol

[atomic kiln]

ur retired, i wouldnt even expect that 😄

[gilded orchid]

retired until I get free doot

refuse to play actively like I did without it

[atomic kiln]

well when u get doot, ull kinda regret ur loss in progress, doot is overpowered, but u can easily play with huge gains without him

this makes such a difference

[boreal sonnet]

No Mr blueberry card

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676479

[atomic kiln]

its only rank 1

sucked it didnt come up in summer event

[boreal sonnet]

Summer event will be announced in 2 days

[timber sand]

Should i be using the kitsune rock or no?

[boreal sonnet]

You should be using the tulipan

[safe relic]

I can't seem to find any information on it, what is the totalizer unlocked for the MSA in superbits?

[opaque sun]

kitsune is a net gain as long you can harvest frequently

[timber sand]

The wut

[atomic kiln]

im sure he needs to use the gremlin as well

[timber sand]

I'm so lost-

[atomic kiln]

i wish

[boreal sonnet]

Put your tu lips on my ballz

[timber sand]

I still only know how to get 1 type of bits

[boreal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[opaque sun]

there is only one type of bits

[atomic kiln]

the rest is hidden

[timber sand]

I only have one lip, tis a birth defect

[opaque sun]

Colors are just lava’s way to denote certain digits of bits

[dapper dome]

What is a vman speed run ?

[atomic kiln]

actully it looks like 1 or 2 lips, in a magnifier it 10,000 lips on each

[boreal sonnet]

The joke doesn't work if you only have one lip

[boreal sonnet]

It's when you try to get vman as fast as possible from a fresh account

[atomic kiln]

exactly

[zealous niche]

It’s a skill of vman

[timber sand]

I mean technically i have 5 lips if you count your mom beside me/j

[boreal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[zealous niche]

Critical since speedrunning is the only way to get tab four talent points for it

[gilded orchid]

I only really played to compete with my friend Trickz and help my bud Adesi but Trickz got doot and now his account is like 2 years ahead of me. absolutely ruined all motivation to play really

[atomic kiln]

just change gear and beat trickz

[boreal sonnet]

Trickz was stronger before doot also tho

iirc

[gilded orchid]

Yes he got luckier than I in sailing

but still was my closest competitor, anywho that's gone now

[bright current]

Just shell out rhe average of $700 or whatever it ks for doot

Then maybe not even get him

[atomic kiln]

what was ur name before, i have it on my tounge.... the XP on the end ive seen a million times

[gilded orchid]

That's literally self harm

[boreal sonnet]

I know what it feels like to lose close competitors

[bright current]

[gilded orchid]

XP is just server boosting thing

[atomic kiln]

hmm, im sure he changed it

[gilded orchid]

server boosts used to be at 133 now 106 lmfao

[gilded orchid]

Yeah kind of ruined the game for me, inb4 "single player game" bashers come for me

[boreal sonnet]

Lavaflame2

[thin rose]

but the games single player

[gilded orchid]

plus I've been trapped on the same artefacts for like 5 weeks now

[thin rose]

[gilded orchid]

maybe 7 weeks

since I got one

[shrewd nexus]

lava posted an update, on his myspace

[gilded orchid]

can't remember when last eldritch came in but I still have like 4 actual artefacts missing

[atomic kiln]

if people would not spend 1000 bucks trying to get doot and ahead of everyone it wouldnt have been like this, everybody will get doot at one point

[gilded orchid]

Isn't it like

28 years

f2p

[shrewd nexus]

10 week rotation

[gilded orchid]

weekly rolls

lmao 10 week rotation, more like 40+ years

[shrewd nexus]

you only get 10 rolls at doot

[atomic kiln]

im sure lava made so everyone gets it in those 10 weeks

[gilded orchid]

heavy wheezing

[atomic kiln]

come on, dont hate on lava.. we have been playing this game for free all along, and whats so wrong with this? its still f2p if u want too

[dapper prism]

👋 Hi debt

[gilded orchid]

Hey bro 👋

check DMs

I lost a photo

[deep oxide]

We havn't all been f2p.

[shrewd nexus]

around 4 or5% ofplayers willget doot legit in that 10 weeks (excl. whales)

[dapper prism]

All good, i'll send you a new selfie later 👀

[gilded orchid]

:shrieks:

[tulip thicket]

How do we upgrades the xp we got in cooking? I afk for like 2-3 days and just got a little

[atomic kiln]

none the less, we have had years of content of fun. why let not getting doot after 2 weeks get in the way

[dapper prism]

Cooking xp is 99% irrelevant, besides bb cook talent for dmg.
You use baloons and later pearls

[gilded orchid]

Start early on the pearls IF YOU CAN

[tulip thicket]

Okaie thanks 🙂

[gilded orchid]

Put maestro on bird god and farm skills to lv 100

Only if you can use the lab effectively without him

[dapper prism]

Orr... orrrr

[atomic kiln]

everytime lava releases new stuff people are going crazy to finish it off in 1 day, the game is meant to take some time

[dapper prism]

Just get doot 👀

[gilded orchid]

Doot

[dapper prism]

[shrewd nexus]

whether i get doot or not, isnt even my main problem with the update. its adding a second premium currency to the game i find distasteful

[deep oxide]

The gacha with no pity system itself deserves being looked down on. He doesn't need people defending this he needs to fix it.

[gilded orchid]

You can't even buy his shop rotation packs to try and get companions, you HAVE to buy his premium packs.

[dapper prism]

It did have a reason that was apparently previously mentioned.

[atomic kiln]

lava explained the reason, he didnt want people to cheat to get doot

[gilded orchid]

Yeah cheaters will abuse it something something

Just don't add trading

simples

[dapper prism]

and then cheaters would trade the doots to other people

[dapper prism]

Damn, such a simple solution that would work.

[gilded orchid]

Trading has absolutely no place in IdleOn and it's JUST a cop out

It's an excuse

[atomic kiln]

we dont know if trading will happen, he has aired that it could be coming in the future, but it hasnt come yet

[boreal sonnet]

Yes it's only an excuse to make more money

[stoic tiger]

If he knew that people would cheat to get doot, kinda shows he already knew how broken it was

[dapper prism]

Doot bonus should be a w6 unlock too tbh

[atomic kiln]

maybe it will

[gilded orchid]

Doot bonus is just too fucking great.

[opaque sun]

but if he cancels trading, it becomes false advertisement in a way as some people bought the gems in hopes for trading

[dapper prism]

Idk, seems pretty bad to me rides into the sunset riding my doot

[gilded orchid]

Just like the game not being P2W is false advertis.... nvm he deleted that statement

[opaque sun]

so either way lava is fucked for announcing trading

[atomic kiln]

ive felt people have rushed to conclusions, i cant say if people are right or wrong, if lava is right or wrong, because we havent seen what he is planning

[dapper prism]

Everyone, did you know the only reason i have doot is because of this guy ▶️ @gilded orchid

[boreal sonnet]

Hes planning to make money

Then some more

[gilded orchid]

e_e

[atomic kiln]

well, this is his job

[gilded orchid]

200 dollarydoos

[atomic kiln]

wouldnt u want to make money ?

[opaque sun]

“This is a crypto currency you can use later to trade with people.”

“I changed my mind, the currency cant be traded anymore.”

[deep oxide]

If he puts out a pack a fuck load of us will buy it to support him. This is predatory.

[boreal sonnet]

Ofc i would exploit the weak and yoink every last penny

[gilded orchid]

the companions are NFTs exposed

[vagrant mountain]

except they're not immutable nor on the blockchain

[gilded orchid]

I didn't understand anything you just said all I read was -- this is a scam --

[vagrant mountain]

just a dingy server lava runs from his garage

[shrewd nexus]

tbh i felt the more recent packs were overpriced, id buy them when they were 5 or 10 bucks, and was happy it helped the dev, but 30 bucks gem packs? no thanks

[gilded orchid]

Lava so stingy he not only adds a premium currency, but also INCREASES THE COST each time you click. Yay!

So the unluckier you are, the more you spend yippie!

[shrewd nexus]

anti-pity system?

[vagrant mountain]

new player guide: make new accounts until you hit doot

[deep oxide]

I'll still do it just because of the sheer number of hours I get out of the game. Unfortunately it wasn't enough to keep him out of the gacha.

[opaque sun]

many other gacha games are interested in idleon as a test case and waiting to see what actually happens when trading is added

[gilded orchid]

unironicly very true, I would but I like my character names

[shrewd nexus]

for somthing he didnt want to be manipulatable, its weird that he made it w1 content

[real surge]

huh i just got a bunch of phone boxes and cosmic candies

[gilded orchid]

lmao yeah true, gotta let those new day 1 players swipe swipe as soon as possible

[rotund gull]

If they were in the breeding area at least with the "pets" that would make that much harder

[dapper prism]

I've played a game that had heroes, and one could only be obtained on your first ingame hero roll OR from a very very pricey pack. So the meta actually was that.. Make accounts till u got it, then start the game. Anyone who had played for 1-3 weeks or so was recommended to start over and do that

[atomic kiln]

how many achievements do yah all have?

[gilded orchid]

Retiring was my greatest

[shrewd nexus]

not sure, im going to assume 212 just to annoy you though

[dapper prism]

Yeh, i have 212 too

[rotund gull]

213 achievement, so far ahead!

[dapper prism]

PS: screenshotter totally broken, can't prove it. just need to trust

[atomic kiln]

oh lol, i wouldnt flex if i didnt know i was best lol

[gilded orchid]

source: trust me bro

[dapper prism]

I mean, my webcam is broken, cant screenshot it.

[gilded orchid]

the bandaide won't come off my screenshotter sorry

[dapper prism]

Flex? Nearly done 😦
https://i.imgur.com/tO44gxs.png

[atomic kiln]

thats better than me 😄

[dapper prism]

No way?

[rotund gull]

I kind of reached the end of my tolerance level for achievements so its gonna sit there for a while. cant do the minigames besides the zippy trees

[dapper prism]

Yeh f those minigames.

[dreamy merlin]

exact same as griffy

[atomic kiln]

yeah, i miss 4 lol... maybe ive been super unlucky lol

[gilded orchid]

your sailing luck it beyond stupid

Im still at trilo

normal

lmao

[dapper prism]

I got 2 eldritchs in the last 2 days, think its 4 eldritch in like 4-5 days

[atomic kiln]

dam, been stuck for a week on the last artifact, i just want the dmg

[dapper prism]

Also eldritch fury only took me like 3-4 days 👀

[rotund gull]

flexing i guess

[gilded orchid]

lmao im like

3-4 weeks trying eldritch fury

[deep oxide]

I haven't picked up a new arti in like 2 weeks checking at least 6x a day. lol

[dapper prism]

Yeh, im trying to unlock that lantern atm.. 0.4% and i've done a like 500-600+ chests since.. I can't believe why my rng is this bad for lantern 😦

[atomic kiln]

flex

[vagrant mountain]

rerolling for certain characters is meta for almost every gacha game... basic deduction would conclude that this must be a gacha game

[dapper prism]

way lower than mine..

[gilded orchid]

my eyes, that div requirement

[rotund gull]

I have 0 god ranks because I can't be bothered 😄

[atomic kiln]

well u will beat me to comp.

[gilded orchid]

ofc he will fool, he has doot

[atomic kiln]

u cant get get it, its a difference lol

[gilded orchid]

He's years ahead of you already

[atomic kiln]

nah

[gilded orchid]

10 years or something, would explain why he looks so fkn old

[gilded orchid]

dude is aging faster having doot

[atomic kiln]

lol

[dapper prism]

Told you mine is better

[gilded orchid]

this man is swift on his MS paint skills

[dapper prism]

MS paint? Dude that's a 3 year degree in Photoshop.

[atomic kiln]

creatively u beat me

[gilded orchid]

No its a 15 minute tutorial by some Indian guy

(we love them, educating us)

[atomic kiln]

who can type indian english

[gilded orchid]

I can

Indian english

ta da

[atomic kiln]

idiot hahaha

[dapper prism]

On a serious note though, my sailing was extremeley lucky for so long..

[gilded orchid]

Yeah man, super super lucky

[atomic kiln]

and getting doot

[dapper prism]

Also got that 1/50m recipe thing in w5 with like 30k kills or whatever the portal requirement was

[atomic kiln]

whats ur IE trickz

[gilded orchid]

Its IE/trickz

you're welcome

[obsidian nacelle]

lucky, been trying for suggmas recipe for so long i almost eclipse skulled mushrooms with out candy

[dapper prism]

Havn't updated it since 6/11 (thats my 3 month idleversary)
trickzbunny.idleonefficiency.com/

[dapper prism]

Wow, that's rough

[gilded orchid]

Without candy you say? almost as if you can't use them

[atomic kiln]

update?

[dapper prism]

No

[atomic kiln]

why

[dapper prism]

Else anyone that looks at my IE will be like "cause he has doot"

[gilded orchid]

yeah

for real tho

[dapper prism]

That shows my 3 month progress without doot 😄

[obsidian nacelle]

i dont have enough to make a large enough dent

[gilded orchid]

I would doot bash you for an hour straight

[atomic kiln]

whats urs trickz ?

[dapper prism]

I dont mind sending you screenshots of my IE

[gilded orchid]

His is like 75m

nah probs not, more like 50

[dapper prism]

forgot to add a decimal between there xD

[gilded orchid]

lmao

Con is just time gated isn't it?

Nothing fancy you can really do

[dapper prism]

Idk mine looks bugged.. it has this random dot in between..
https://i.imgur.com/jV8t8Ws.png

[atomic kiln]

its very important for a lot of things

[dapper prism]

I would definetely say its the same as yours.

[rotund gull]

You can atomize the the Call be Bob bubble to shoot con levels through the roof

[dapper prism]

Yeh time gated atm

[gilded orchid]

Thanks for answer

[dapper prism]

But first priority for atom imo is more atoms (wood skill bubbles)

[rotund gull]

Calll Me Bob is linear scaling, so it just keeps going and going

[gilded orchid]

SadPeanut is back lmao

[rotund gull]

Absolutely, bob is for endier end gaming

[atomic kiln]

its only xp speed that can progress is, not time gated at all

[dapper prism]

Only have X atoms a day, that need to be spent on bigger priority stuff = Time gated

[atomic kiln]

u dont need to spend atoms on con

[rotund gull]

but first and foremost you want to use only XP cogs on your board and only squires, to be targeted by all the XP. look at the !guide for info on the setup

[dapper prism]

idk mustache gets pricey

[gilded orchid]

@bright current

[dapper prism]

Directional XP cogs are a myth

[gilded orchid]

not enough p2w

[atomic kiln]

my con bubble is only 245

[crude zephyr]

are you still complaining about not having doot one week later

[atomic kiln]

u can easily get far with f2p

[gilded orchid]

Suck, my fat, enormous, egregious

[atomic kiln]

go to dr miami

[crude zephyr]

want me to paypal you some cash so you can roll for doot too?

[dapper prism]

Yay another vial done 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/oTF84s4.png

[gilded orchid]

you can't afford that

[atomic kiln]

gratz

[crude zephyr]

im not dootless

LOL

[eternal echo]

guys whats best to farm shells? DK or ES? I need about 80

[gilded orchid]

DK

Welll.. hmm

maybe not

its a good chuck up between ES and DK

[rotund gull]

ES might be faster, but DK gets you W4 statues that are really good too

[gilded orchid]

The map is great for DK

[eternal echo]

DK goes to 300 orb kill and ES to about 160

[gilded orchid]

Yeah its a 50/50. DK for statues for free, or ES for direct pearl farming. I don't think its TOO much difference

[eternal echo]

Yeah usually I go ES, but the layout is perfect for DK

[gilded orchid]

the way ES / DK is calculated is not the same

[lavish cloak]

technically ES is faster, but it is a grand opportunity to use DK if you haven't been using him and his killcounts could using boosting.

[atomic kiln]

nobody has done this

[gilded orchid]

The idea of "es goes up to X and DK goes up to Y " aren't relevant to each other

[eternal echo]

thats a good point. Still havent killed 1M with DK

[dapper prism]

What do you mean?
https://i.imgur.com/RWGe3uC.png

[rotund gull]

i farmed up the pearler vial to level 4 using DK because I was sorely lacking in the W4 statues. Was worth it

[atomic kiln]

thats mine

[gilded orchid]

Nope, Fake News

[lavish cloak]

buy me a doot and i'll farm that vial up with all 10 characters in a week.

hell, buy me a doot and i'll farm it on YOUR account

[atomic kiln]

still impossible

[azure bobcat]

I got that 60% DR chip and it boosted my dr so much I love it

from 2,5 to 3,1

[gilded orchid]

Only up to x5 then it hard caps your account so don't forget to take it off when improving your DR past x5! go farm obols !

[azure bobcat]

ty haha

[dapper prism]

Wait what?

https://i.imgur.com/2oNKkOM.png

Totally round vial.

[rustic garnet]

Has Lava said anything?

[rotund gull]

well when you put so many tremors in a glass vial, you can't expect it to maintain structural integrity forever

[rustic garnet]

I can see my guild (the biggest/highest guild) in the game starting to crumble

[bright current]

Ah, the early days when people thought lava would respond

[dapper prism]

Pretty sure the only way/time he will respond is with XYZ good news at this point*.

[bright current]

Forgor to reply

[rotund gull]

yeah many of my guildies are either offline or just doing little 5 minute sesisons a day to keep it alive in the hope it gets fixed

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/no-different-only-different-in-your-mind-yoda-star-wars-jedi-gif-17003091

[bright current]

Hes gonna ignore this and move on lol

[gilded orchid]

He really is

and if idleon dies, I don't think he fkn cares

dude is a seven figure asshole

[dapper prism]

Dies is excessive. Steam DAU has barely decreased at all

[gilded orchid]

"dies" as in all outside support for idleon disappears

IE review bot is gone

Toolbox is going?? I think

If IE goes, gg game

[dapper prism]

Toolbox made updates with companions

[rotund gull]

IE is idle now I think?

[dapper prism]

IE they removed blacklist etc.

[lavish cloak]

the act of him saying anything ever at this point means he cares about the game or us at all. i'm setting my calendar for a month and a week after the update. if nothing, time to consider my sunk cost phallacy mindset and fill my time with other things than idleon. eventually.

[azure bobcat]

hmmm...

[bright current]

'cares about the game' and 'needs an income' aren't the same. Theres a chance his heart just isnt in it anymore

[azure bobcat]

12h for 15 kibi dangos means I need 1 year to get that jewel

[gilded orchid]

It is W5, dude might be super over it

[azure bobcat]

I doubt I can speed that up so insanly that I can get it next week ...

[gilded orchid]

Pay to win jewels

pay to win chips even

pay to win whole game why not

[dapper prism]

Just gotta work hard at it, laddles are your biggest friend. Also getting some chows down and vman talent if u have vman

[azure bobcat]

I am not paying anymore until more communication from lava ngl

[lavish cloak]

that's a chance every minute of every day. for us too.

[gilded orchid]

Save all laddles too, for like 3 months

[azure bobcat]

sadly no vman yet

[azure bobcat]

I think you missed that convo where I asked if it would be good to spend candies to speed up deathnote for BB, but since my BB is just lvl 96 and I have just 4 zows I should save up candies first until I get stronger haha

no way I can get vman or let bb chill in kitchen soon

[gilded orchid]

Dont use candies for BB until you have a good multikill atleast

[rotund gull]

Worst case for jewels, there is no duplication when you buy with gems

[gilded orchid]

you dont wanna blow them all for a tiny gain

[azure bobcat]

yeah

[gilded orchid]

Whats your bbs damage?

[dapper prism]

yeh jewel gem shop isnt "as bad" but chips are very rough

[gilded orchid]

x8 drop rate 🤡

[dapper prism]

What?

oh ur rng

[gilded orchid]

So cruel

[azure bobcat]

let me check

[dapper prism]

or better, it's kph at something like gmush or deeper into w1

[gilded orchid]

Yeah something like that, just give us reference points on your BB

[azure bobcat]

x6 nutto multikill

[gilded orchid]

any relevent information will do

Ah okay

no zow / chow for you yet

[dapper prism]

those rings, and neck 👀

[gilded orchid]

What world are you in ?

Yeah definitely work on getting those skill efficency rings man, they are the best early

[azure bobcat]

I am pushing with every char to the w3 boss rn for that good neck soon

I am w5 haha

[dapper prism]

only really need maestro

[gilded orchid]

And when you upgrade your BBs gear @azure bobcat use the upgrade stones while on your mage so that it gives +wisdom for accuracy, it will help a lot

[dapper prism]

but yes daily keys would help

[gilded orchid]

Ahh okay, if you're at W5 you don't need accuracy (maybe)

[azure bobcat]

I only need accuracy in later w4 and w5

[gilded orchid]

😕 what do you mean

Ah you have accuracy on W5 Map 1

Not the last maps of earlier worlds

[azure bobcat]

yeah, but only with that +30% acc prayer haha

[gilded orchid]

no problem, do what I said and use the upgrade stones for your bb gear ( And DKs ) while on your mage so it gives +wisdom ( = +accuracy )

[azure bobcat]

no I have enough acc until soda cans on every char

[azure bobcat]

yeah I will do that

[gilded orchid]

the +wisdom will really help, and you must have 1.5x accuracy on your Dks to get the talent damage buff

so if you don't have accuracy on DKs you're seriously suffering

[azure bobcat]

so shouldn't I work on zow at least? I mean I could afk level my bb too

[gilded orchid]

Go to W1 map 1 and tell me your BBs multi kill rate ( set up everything for multi kill as if you are going to Zow/Chow now, because you may if it's good enough )

[gilded orchid]

Nah

Not yet mate

Atleast 100k/hour

Oh well you can zow AFK 👍

But don't CHOW yet

[azure bobcat]

I got that zow on this map already

[gilded orchid]

Yep no problem, use your BB to zow all of W1 / W2 AFK

[azure bobcat]

I wasn't too sure if it's a good dmg boost or not before pushing w5 maps

[gilded orchid]

You will want significant damage increases before attempting to chow all maps

But you can definitely zow now, do it while AFK (remember to set up bubbles, cards for fight AFK gain, star signs also and chips )

[dapper prism]

Think i only chowed when i was at like 700k-1m kph xD

[gilded orchid]

Yes but you chowed very late, like a month after me

[azure bobcat]

yeah I didn't want to chow yet, just getting zow for w1-w3 maps and then getting to like lvl 150

[gilded orchid]

You're on the right path

What do you use as your " main " Yuu?

[azure bobcat]

I used DK but wanted to slowly work on my Bubo

I could let him afk level here with maybe 3 levels overnight

[gilded orchid]

Stick to DK as your main

Bubo will be absolutely terrible until lv 200 w/e it is tentecyle

you need ancient fury for bubo to really be worth using actively

[rotund gull]

You should still run your Bubo when cranium cooking is ready to go though, because all that alchemy progress helps

[gilded orchid]

DK is much more rewarding to use as your main earlier on

[rotund gull]

thats like twice a day with cooking roadkill on

[azure bobcat]

I figured I could reload cc twice as fast with active bubo, but it felt really low

[gilded orchid]

But eventually you will find your ES will drasticly outpace your DK in damage once you start pushing hard into sailing

[rotund gull]

you can only do early mobs with early bubo because poison tanks your damage

[gilded orchid]

It's absolutely horrendous before you get the 3s cooldown chance on kill

[azure bobcat]

I can farm well at TVs at least haha, they take like 3 hits

but not that much exp anymore

[rotund gull]

like maybe you could handle soda cans, or fall back to TVs. but its terrible for pushing maps without a ton of accoutn wide damage boosts

3 hits is too much

[chilly scarab]

Soda cans better

[gilded orchid]

Yeah 3 hits is too much

[rotund gull]

you want single hit kills for your daily CC runs

[gilded orchid]

Otherwise defeats the purpose of you using bubo

[rotund gull]

mustaches might be good density?

[azure bobcat]

I used him actively today to level him

[gilded orchid]

hmmm

[azure bobcat]

I got a better clear time with tvs because it had better density

[chilly scarab]

It is better to do at beans i think

[azure bobcat]

like my respawn skill was actually up much more than I thought

[gilded orchid]

Good call beans is a good map for low lvl bubo

[rotund gull]

its easy enough to experiment, just make a sheet recording the seconds you get on the maps

[chilly scarab]

Yeah, helped for me

[azure bobcat]

I got 5040 seconds on tv map hahaha

[gilded orchid]

it will be immediately off cooldown every 2 seconds when you hit ancient fury

[bright current]

You guys are using equipment to push w5?

Kinds odd tbh

[azure bobcat]

not much

[gilded orchid]

All my characters are tricked out in chiz

that hurts my eyes to see

[azure bobcat]

yeah I am super early into sailing and tbh I don't know how to play it smart yet

[gilded orchid]

Okay so see on your siege breakers they have that skill that allows you to increase the chest rarity? (bottom left corner of siege breaker talents) make sure that is ZERO on all your SBs

You want your loot pile to max out and ships to dock so you get extra chests, don't want to increase the rarity it's pretty pointless. you would rather have more chances at the artefacts

[azure bobcat]

oh it is 4 haha

I might reskill then

[dapper prism]

The only purpose for that talent is if you afk very long and/or if you desperately need sailing xp

[rotund gull]

Reset now, dont even think about it

[gilded orchid]

Yeah reset now

will be a god send

Also remember to do it on all SBs

[dapper prism]

I'd also say, always remove it since a lot more chests is better odds than 1 less chest and "maybe upgrading something"

[rotund gull]

and when you get the artifact that lets you set a minimum chest rarity... burn it from your mind and never push taht button either

[dapper prism]

Unless you afk and wont play for like a week

[rotund gull]

I wouldnt even invest the points into the SB talent in that scenario because you'll probably forget about it for a bit and sabotage the gains when you come back 😄

[dapper prism]

oh i mean min chest

although talent could be fine for the xp then, but forgetting about it happens easily too

[rotund gull]

yeah thats a lot easier to reset than a whole skillign preset

[azure bobcat]

how can I know If I am doing the right thing

[dapper prism]

stay on island 1 until tusk

[azure bobcat]

with everyone?

[zealous niche]

🤷

Yeah, tusk is important to get asap

More boats = more rolls

[azure bobcat]

alr

[dapper prism]

It's all very situational and a bit random opinion based. But tusk artifact increases artifact chance and needs to be a priority. etc.

Focusing on getting more gold early on as AJ mentioned, more boats = more everyting

[azure bobcat]

but I should just get the standard one? or the golden artifact

[eternal echo]

Hi guys. I'm wondering what's the effect of multikill on drops. I understand that the total multilill% is affected by the multikill per tier x the kill multiplier. Exemple: I run currently 1200% multikill with 5x on the multi. How is my drop affected. Do I get 5 times the drop? Or 12 times the drop (12x100%). I understand that it is obviously affected by droprate. Might feel like a stupid question, but I wanna make sure how the multikill part works with drops.

[dapper prism]

It's a +1% chance to find/get an artifact per sailing level (ancient is 2%)

[dapper prism]

MK only affects the base drop, the first drop of a monster.

If you click Codex -> Cards -> any mob card, its the first thing in there, like Frog Legs, snake skin and that kinda stuff

[eternal echo]

I was asking more about what number is correct. The mathematical side of it 🙂

is drop only affected by the kill multiplier. basically I wanna know if the multikill alch bubble affects the total drop or only the damage will affect it.

[versed cypress]

every 100% of mk is basicaly 1x extra multiplier for that item

because ever 100% of mk is 1x of mobs killed

[eternal echo]

Cause am at w3 green stacking and its extremely painful

[versed cypress]

what your current mk on the mob you are killing???

[eternal echo]

so technically multikill by tier bubble/cards affects drops by min?

[versed cypress]

not the drop directly it affects how many times the mob counts as killed

[gilded orchid]

Only for the first item dropped by the mob

Multikill doesn't effect rares or anything like that. just like frog legs for example

[eternal echo]

I don't want to go full multikill by tier if it only affects the portal/death notes

[forest berry]

if i have 2 stacks of copper ore at over 10M each will it count for 2 green stacks or just 1

[versed cypress]

so if you have 400% mk then you are killing the mob 5 times and then your dr is triggered for the drop each of those times

[gilded orchid]

1

[eternal echo]

1

[gilded orchid]

otherwise you could stack 100000000M gmush resources for infinite damage boost

[eternal echo]

so technically, boosted my multikill by tier will help me get my green stacks faster. Right? Thats good news

[gilded orchid]

Yes

[versed cypress]

yes

[modest warren]

how often does the zow talent give a %

[gilded orchid]

only once per mob

[versed cypress]

but if you want to green stack things use ES

[gilded orchid]

at 100K kills

[modest warren]

no like the talent points

[gilded orchid]

Ah sorry you mean break points

[eternal echo]

oh yeah i'm full on ES.

[gilded orchid]

I'm not sure mate

[dapper prism]

33

[sick sentinel]

i think its 33

[modest warren]

ah ty

[forest berry]

so if i have 2 stacks of copper at 5M each will it count as 1 green stack?

[eternal echo]

yes

[gilded orchid]

Not really

they have to be together

to form a " green stack "

[eternal echo]

well, you need to stack them. There is no real point of having multiple stack

[dapper prism]

Why even do that 👀

[gilded orchid]

please don't tell me you have things split into stacks of 5m for no reason

[forest berry]

idk jsut curios

[forest berry]

no i dont

[gilded orchid]

No it has to be 1 stack

[eternal echo]

infinite stash space man

[gilded orchid]

stash space was the most trying part of most of this game for me lmao

[forest berry]

just pay lava for more

[eternal echo]

stash space is the real endgame

[gilded orchid]

It really is, because green stackingzzzz

[dapper prism]

Got a lot easier with the statue deposite all button

[forest berry]

just green stack your statues for more damage

[gilded orchid]

Holy shit this mans a genius

[eternal echo]

About my multikill by tier question. If I get 1200% total multikill%. I get 12 times the ressources right? IF drop rate is x10 and an item is 1/2 then I get 5 resources by mob x 12. So 60 by mob is the correct math? I'm so confused. I want the exact formula lol

[gilded orchid]

Brb gonna farm 10MILLION STATUES

[gilded orchid]

Go test that, fuck knows man

lmao

[eternal echo]

I could also do that lol

[gilded orchid]

Slap it into chatGPT see what it says for the lolz

[forest berry]

pretty sure the math is multikill*droprate*drop chance for the firs item, the main drop, then just droprate*drop chance for all other drops

[rotund gull]

I think there's something about DR breakpoitns in there, not just a direct multiplier

[rotund gull]

is it the saem for money and main drops?

[gilded orchid]

DR breakpoints, save this photo its very helpful

[eternal echo]

bro..... I tested. Upgraded my multikill by tier by 10%. Went from 66 spore cap per kill to 63 per kill. it makes NO SENS

[gilded orchid]

You took off

respawn rate

[eternal echo]

I took off card drop rate

[dapper prism]

drop rate affects it to

[eternal echo]

cards

[gilded orchid]

he is saying you did something to lower your DR

[forest berry]

so does this mean 5.01 DR = 6.99 (maybe 7.0)

[eternal echo]

I did not. I only changed mustach card to suggma card. like the only thing i did. same drop rate

[gilded orchid]

What? no

[dapper prism]

at a 1/8 drop item
with 12.78x DR
with 4603%

I get 48 drops at once. Math that out as you wish xD

[gilded orchid]

It's just the breakpoint, but the multipier inbetween the break points still applies * I THINK *

But for the most part with DR just hit the break point and don't push any higher if you can't hit the next one

Sorry if this didn't correctly answer your question

[dapper prism]

You have to reach the breakpoint. Anything from 5.01x to 6.99x will be 600%. Should always reach .01 due to rounding stuff. since even 5.00x or 7.00x might actually be the lower breakpoint.

[eternal echo]

So, I removed multikill by tier card and the number went down. Then i've put drop card change and the number went up, actually higher than multikill by tier cards. So technically, card drop chance affects regular drops....

[dapper prism]

If you only care about money, then no need to push beyond, but DR will still help for base drops, rares and stuff like that. PLUS ES is a bit weird since Wormhole DR multiplies on your DR

[azure bobcat]

this seems alright with active DK, right?

[gilded orchid]

I think the gains you will get later on in the game ( not sure where you are now ) will make this bit of information you're playing with a little bit irrelevent

Yes sure !

[eternal echo]

ok i'm retarted. I had my multikill by tier ES skill on..............

[eternal echo]

one day i'll get there... i'm still dootless so i'm pretty much progressing at a snail rate

[gilded orchid]

Where are you at, W5?

[split pendant]

your active has little bearing on AFK kills. My 150% AFK doesnt nearly meet my active rate on DK

[twin token]

Is miracle box worth if I have 4 islands unlocked and only have 3 artifacts all on the first island

[eternal echo]

I'd say i'm at late game, but not endgame. Not playing with atoms yet. But i'm at the 9th god, 11th island. Every meal unlocked. About 350 on my chars. I don't really know where to focus at this point tbh. I'm just green stacking and upgrading my tools at the moment. Also getting 4 stars on every cards while i'm green stacking

[dapper prism]

Especially certain things.

Active Bubo was 210x faster XP rate for me than offline rate

[azure bobcat]

lmao my lab went offline smh no idea why (nvm I lost the width from my bubo)

[gilded orchid]

Yep you're right behind my account essentially I'd say, keep on it man you're looking for the right kind of information to increase your gains anyways

[dapper prism]

Bubo Online, lvl 300 to 352 was 4h 8mins. AFK/Offline would have been over 35 days. Fun stuff.

[twin token]

Mainly because with active its worth it to level active talents high whole afk its not. Also some talents that are broken on active (revive, tent) don't work at all on afk

[eternal echo]

Yeah i'm full on research. It helped me a LOT. getting about 250 atoms per day atm. I see people with thousands levels on their bubble. I guess you get a huge boost with the atom spending on bubble

[forest berry]

does this affect just Vman or all characters

[dapper prism]

Also, offline doesnt spawn crystals, or stuff like wormhole etc.

[eternal echo]

all char on the account

[forest berry]

like i get the level it gets from vman but does the bonus apply

[rotund gull]

all

[forest berry]

dope

[twin token]

That too yes

[sharp vine]

Most people with thousands in their alch prog were doing active bubo farming on flombs pre w5 tbh

[gilded orchid]

That is SO good

[twin token]

Just a bunch of stuff active does that online doesnt

[gilded orchid]

Yeah that's very true

[dapper prism]

Gotta love the consistency. Sometimes it says "all chars" sometimes it doesnt, yet you never know as it may still be all chars xD

[tiny laurel]

Get all cosmetic buffs, best armor you can, cards: damage, afk, defense, cash, exp. Then use an elemental sorcerer bc its goated and you can just afk over active, or fight active for max kills/exp

[rotund gull]

you might want to set natural traps on blobfish for all chars on vman using transfusion for a week, power level their trapping a ton. then you get a whole lot more bonus 😄

[dapper prism]

That talent is only based on vman skill level though. But yes still nice to have levels.

[dapper prism]

omg, transfusion XP from vman works for traps?

[azure bobcat]

should I skill my ES for afk for now so I can gain max exp gain until I have enough levels to kinda hybrid

[dapper prism]

idk why i never tried that xD

[eternal echo]

U just opened my eyes with the transfusion. This is so wise!

[twin token]

?

[opaque sun]

unending prayer works on traps too

[forest berry]

think im doin that already, have it set to 20 hrs as thats the best xp at 1 collect per day

[dapper prism]

Depends, are you Jeff Bezos? 🐳

[gilded orchid]

It's all skills I'm pretty sure

[gilded orchid]

NO

Money sink

[forest berry]

dont have transfusion on tho, that kinda sucks

[gilded orchid]

waste of money don't bother

[twin token]

What should I spend my gems on now then🤔

[opaque sun]

miracle box doesn’t guarantee any artifacts

[dapper prism]

The only one that "can" be worth it, if timed properly, is Ancient Artifact purchase. But that's only if you plan it out (or rng it out) in a way that's "oh only this good artifact like fury is left on normal" type of thing

[opaque sun]

its just a slightly better occult box

[twin token]

Oh

[eternal echo]

XP is affected while putting the traps or when collecting?

[rotund gull]

xp is set when placing the trap

[dapper prism]

!trapchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[gilded orchid]

!lava response

damn

[eternal echo]

so setting with beastmaster for xp is overrated

[forest berry]

!dootsforeveryone

[dapper prism]

Basically, nothing really helps while collecting except shiny chance and food

[rotund gull]

yes. BM should set for critter counts instead

[opaque sun]

critter number and trap exp is like “samples” of a printer as in it doesnt change afterwards

[tiny laurel]

I’m not sure what a hybrid build Is but I payed for 115% afk rates and easily started 3k kills on world 5 slugs, then I gained 20-30 levels and am doing way better. My other characters simply don’t match damage output and I don’t actively run the game on ios

[eternal echo]

I learned something today

[eternal echo]

stop teasing me.

[twin token]

Divinity sparkle is worth right?

[gilded orchid]

The shop thing? yeah sure why not divinty bonuses are great

I'd say its on the same level as the loot pile things

[twin token]

Loot pile kinda seems useless

[dapper prism]

early loot piles probably help a lot more

[twin token]

Do you run unto problems with loot caps later on?

[rotund gull]

yes

[azure bobcat]

should I enchant my wizard armor with AGI for acc?

[twin token]

I think ima buy a couple of divinity sparkles first then

[rotund gull]

if you need it to hit things, yes

[azure bobcat]

ty

[twin token]

Yeah it's a good idea to put 1 agi on all armor pieces

[dapper prism]

By w5 you should very soon not struggle with AGI. If its base gear then sure, if it's chizoar or something good, I'd say mainstat. (depending on your current %

[twin token]

That's usually all u need to be hitting stuff

[dapper prism]

That just sounds like ruining a whole set

[tiny laurel]

I saw someone with 25million accuracy, Is there something multiplying its base rate or Is that achievable natty?

[azure bobcat]

yeah I think I will boost acc on void gear and main stat after that

[dapper prism]

Doing full acc stat u can at least switch sets later on to get main stat etc.

[toxic folio]

I am trying to get the world 5 fist recipe from the slugma's, I know usually they are black in the cards of it hasn't been obtained, it is showing filled in there but I dont have the recipe does anyone know if it'll still drop

[twin token]

I'm assuming they're early w5 in which case they're gonna be replacing the armor and won't be getting a bunch of bonuses from the extra wis

[dapper prism]

You can get the same drop a million times kinda thing, just because you got it once or not, doesn't mean you cant get it again.

[tiny laurel]

Its a drop rate, It should unless you block It on the anti-loot tab thing. I aint no expert though

[eternal echo]

if acc is needed. Yes. At some point you'll get enough accuracy and you'll change it to the class main stats for damage

[dapper prism]

Also make sure you are grinding it out with ES, and also not early game. (early w5) since your dmg or DR may lack. (1/50m is pretty rare)

[toxic folio]

Yea pretty much all my character have finished W5

[azure bobcat]

it shows because you got any w5 recipe

not that one in particular

[toxic folio]

Ok good to know

[dapper prism]

That makes sense xD

[azure bobcat]

yeah I figured that out when I got my w2 splicer

then I saw w3 splicer recipe and paniced why I dont have it yet haha

[dapper prism]

Same recipe icon?

[azure bobcat]

yes

w4 splicer too

bc everything is anvil tab4

[dapper prism]

I dont even see the recipe icons anywhere on the cards tab

[azure bobcat]

bc you own them

once you got them it doesnt show anymore

[dapper prism]

Damn you're teaching me something new 😄

Ty

[azure bobcat]

hahaha

I think I will skill my main ES idle now and just let him push together with my active DK

if I need to farm something I can active on my second ES

[junior copper]

i just got king doot pet. but some of my char still count as not connect to lab while Arctis god benefit is character always count as connect to lab. do i hv to unlink all of them to make king doot effect work?

[crisp silo]

thank you sailing gods for giving me the worst artfact to eldrich first!!!!!!

[modern plaza]

what do you mean? the tusk is the best one first

[crisp silo]

the PO box

i got that while sailing for the sample artifact

and loot artifact

[modern plaza]

the PO box one is also super good

[crisp silo]

i dont need the god dang boxes

[opaque sun]

Giant Eye be like “there is something worse than me?”

[crisp silo]

i need my kraken samples

[modern plaza]

u need to get ancient first before you can get elrichies

[opaque sun]

so you already finished myriad boxes

[crisp silo]

not rn, dont plan to for a while, but the card doubler is comin and my kraken samples are kinda dry

and the odds of me getting an eldrich is much lower than any of my others getting ancient first

[opaque sun]

The po box artifact is god send when doing myriad as it saves lot of clicks to be done

[modern plaza]

so juiced, can max out all PO boxes on all characters for massive gains

i log in and get 4 sailing procs sometimes lol

[opaque sun]

i am assuming he maxed all other boxes, but if not, it makes it even much better

[modern plaza]

atom collider should proc the relics imo

[opaque sun]

Would be nice if atom collider just multiplied the number of pens used for multiplied order rewards

[azure bobcat]

oh wow I got tusk

should I still try to get golden tusk as well, I dont know how high the chance for that is

[jagged relic]

I really wonder when lava is going to say something?

[zealous niche]

As do we all

[graceful rivet]

Does drop rate affect cars drop chance from skilling

[bright current]

Yea

[coarse parrot]

I’m not sure if hope is sinking by the day or if it already hit rock bottom and we just keep dragging it back

[bright current]

I got a toyota corolla yesterday from snowflakes

[vagrant mountain]

wow all I got was an echo

[serene forum]

Im not getting as many pens as i thought i would on dk

Dr 5.5

Dmg about 500-1000m.

Map bloodbones.

Also ofc maxxed crystal cards and talents. Choco chip.

Im getting a extreme amount of statues like 2k+ a hour but pens are looking like only around 200 a day. I expected at least 1k pens a day

[umbral tapir]

I can't believe he still hasn't said anything.

[serene forum]

Lava? Update has to be w6 at this point.

New class at least.

[modern plaza]

i just started as well, gonna check out what i get to...

i'm on snelbies tho to also farm dice obols also

[sleek tree]

Inifinte Star sign + Select star sign stacks?

[opaque sun]

w5 boss and pets maybe

[vocal ibex]

I am thinking about going for the 50

Recommendation?

[raven fog]

how di u have eldrich but not anicnt

can i push to rift 21 with 5 bill avg dmg

[gentle furnace]

Just check mob hp

[bright current]

Whose givin that a ?

If u have the starsign doubler chip then yea it stacks(ish), the doubled ones still get doubled

[sleek tree]

hmmm soo thats it, the chip!! Thanks

[vocal ibex]

Nvm on my question

Just got him with

Thank you

[gilded orchid]

ayo !

Congratulations

[crisp silo]

it proced anceint then it proced eldrich within a few days

[vocal ibex]

One more to go

[lean thistle]

BRRRRRRRRR

ES is op

[sleek tree]

?

[vocal ibex]

I like bubonic better

I feel he gets more kills

[gilded orchid]

It is all very situational to your account, no one is the same (for the most part)

[vocal ibex]

Question what is divinity for after u unlock all gods?

[opaque sun]

god ranks

[gilded orchid]

God ranks give divinity exp bonuses

They are juicy, so juice them

[vocal ibex]

Isn't that through leveling them up?

[opaque sun]

The offering requirements scales each time and you get god ranks

[gilded orchid]

Negative

It is available to "unlock" just like the gods are, after you've unlocked all gods

[vocal ibex]

Ahhhhh

Okay I shall be patient.

[gilded orchid]

In the same way, you just gamble divinity points for possible bonus +div exp

And there is not a lot of ways to get +div exp, so its a juicer

[opaque sun]

Until then, the ES’s talent that scales with god rank does nothing

[gilded orchid]

Yeah don't use that talent !

[vocal ibex]

Ohhh whatt

I was sitting here on 170 points on there

[gilded orchid]

Well you have no god ranks, and it works off of god ranks

[ashen marsh]

does this affect all characters even if they're not linked?

[gilded orchid]

It literally says

[opaque sun]

blessing all works without a link

[gilded orchid]

right there