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that moment when you try to farm the eldritch of Fury Relic and still not getting it after like 14 days.. and still going strong :/
all i want is get 30/30 artifact :<
but it worth to resample. You usually got +50m~100m when resample...that boost a lot
if you have eldrich, you resample every 80 days(or less if lucky on gilded stamp) xD
No way do you wait 80 days
wish me luck, going for that last one atm ๐
https://i.imgur.com/swc9Pdt.png
If you feel like you can make a noticeable sample progress, its better to sample earlier to restart the accumulation too earlier
pretty much yes? for me. also game now doesn't have any new update/upgrade that help skill so just chill Unless you thirt for atom, i'm at comfy point now so not worry much about resample
Probably depends on your sample itself
But for me i went from 80m to 200m to 300m each with a 2 week gap
so all plant have like 6 evlo ? try to "max" it out for more bits XD
The full bonus of the artifact means something bad is going on: either you have not made any sample power progress in those 80 days, or lava has not added any sample affecting update for more than 80 days
very hard to get 6th evol...harder that get Doot
finally 5x multi with 6x drop for suggggggmaaaaaa
well at last... is hard but does not cost money XD
be sure to try and get 6.01+ and never have an exact amount on DR like 6.00
Was there something that gave a bonus for hitting Level 30 on Cooking plates?
atom building
if you -0.01 penny each time you check gamming skill, eventually it cost more than get Doot...
lv 3 is 400ish, lv 4 is 835
xD
need to use my 20k laddles
danmm
i keep postponing it
how much is your speed now?
Before atom upgrade:
https://i.imgur.com/pd65PB7.png
and now:
https://i.imgur.com/SaJ1xLr.png
how much is that even xD
I'm getting close to full base 30
Probably another month and it's done

Last page start slowing down a lot
i really forgot but after 1000M = 1B, 1000B = 1Q(iirc), 1000Q = 1QQ,...1000QQQQ = E23
So each number is like, 1k times faster?
No
how many lvl 13 vials do you need to get 100% double statue chance ?
and 10E = E+1
E+1 is 10x
10 times
Over 24
we were chatting about that earlier today, i have 21x at 92% someone else had 23 or 24 at 96%
So, like 27-28 maybe? unless it gets worse
so im still very far off
By math it should be around 23 ish if snake vial itself is 13
But might have some lava rounding here and there
Do all the main skill resources first, then use vman void to sample mob drops and get through those
Idk the chat was here:
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
wait what ???
what do you mean void to sample mob drops ?
you have a vman yet?
chopping/mining/catching vials are easy, fishing are okay too
Mob mats comes after that
Use v man during your portal run to take samples of monster mats. With his multi kill purteer talent
and after defeating at least w1+2ish and better also w3 boss on 1 key difficulty
Per tier
ES should work on late w4 and w5 mats where its too difficult to get vman there
Best monster Matt printing in the game
why 1 key ?
Because higher difficulties wont affect your sample run
doesnt 3rd tier count as kill for all 3 boss levels ?
the portal amount is irrelevant
Just for respawn purpose, normal boss and nightmare boss both counts the same
you need boss kills for:
https://i.imgur.com/DXkB6zg.png
nightmare boss get you 3 portal ?
After that you use the 20s buff during your samples:
https://i.imgur.com/zQX05Bi.png
You just wasting keys on a sample run to kill nightmare
Yes, each difficulty = 1 portal, but you can instantly do a higher one to get the previous portal one.
oh this is for sampling, im not following, my bad
Yeh so sample run the nightmare kill is irrelevant, so are the amount of portals
i have like 1000 keys for each boss except troll
Save those for actual runs and stuff
I typically don't even get my loot on my proper vman portal unlock run 
you have to gauge yourself accurately and decide if you going to sample after 2 boss kills or 3
Sample after 3 kills is doable, but might be tight on time for weaker accounts
Also remember on a sample run you can ignore any and all extra portals
Amarok and efant only is more safer bet
Your only goal is pushing through w1 to get to boss, then push through w2, get to boss. (if possible w3 too) all extra portals like sticks, nuttos, spike minigame all that won't help during your sample run
wait spike minigame is a portal too ?
Also you want to max out your AFK gain and DMG will mostly help more than MK stuff.
Technically yes, think it's 2k or soemwhere between 2-4k.
Same as the 2nd portal at mimics. and killing a snelbie
so how does curse of mr looty interact with the sampling ?
(plank too, think there's 2 for that?)
this omniphau god - When claiming non-candy AFK gains, also progress one of the following by the AFK time!
Seems if I afk like 5-10mins, I still get 1hr progress? So I should spam switch characters every 5 mins?
PS: there's a guide somewhere in #1084911530417606656 that lists all those extra portals afaik
no it's still only 5-10min
it just rounds up
Text Displays are only in hours.
Just UI limitations
which could probably be changed/fixed within a few minutes 

Else the chat will be more empty as people will be busy 2 min claiming
wow im active on my ES and im getting so many statues :0
Mean you could have got more on dk
think they are pop farming
except those w3 statues
should i just ruby cardifier my card drop cards and crystal spawn ones?
5 of the ruby ones... (3 card drop ones and 2 crystal ones)
Kind of wasteful to use limited cardifier on farmable ones
right, but how realistic is it to get to ruby any time soon? im only at 1B/2B dmg
Usually people reserve for chaos/nightmare bosses
damage isnt really an issue with card farming
how urgent you need ruby card btw,
i used on Trolls already, and will probably use one on Chiz Nightmare
i guess not really urgently... will probably just save them.. maybe if lava lets us buy more then i'll use them for early gains
ok new dumb question, how do you get your vman talents 292/245 ?
slugs, es family bonus and arctis (doot)
rift slug ES family bonus and articuz
Sheepie also helps with arctis
image posted by tricky right aove
To use my laddles or to get superchows... :/
and 292 is like max of max haha
not all do
Some talents only goes up to book level
imagine if blood marrow went to 292... ๐ฎ
Like ES poly talents and such that ignores other ablative talent bonus
so i did snelbies on my ES and i got like 4 dice obols in 2 hours. you reckon DK will give me better rates?
For obols, yeah
Whats your crystal rate?
ES basically is like farming crystals normally with no modifier
idk... i don't have IE
are you using chocolate chip ?
but i got gold genie and gold poop, could farm out the platinum ones of them
because if you are sounds like you have horrible rng
and use choco + card doublers
def get it to plat
im using my card doublers on card drop right now for card collection
Dice come mostly from crystal drops, so as others said, use DK not ES
then there is star talent and stamp
ES drop rate does not affect crystals, only wormhole kills.
DK affects anything you kill on the map, thats why he is used for minibosses etc.
star talent for crystal spawn what!?
shit i feel dumb, i didn't get that one yet wtf
honestly im just farming for green stack and am gettign enough dice obols
smart
im getting a lot from fishing on vman xD
what is a better sparkle obol, troll or dice ?
ES has better scaling dr mechanic, but sadly only applies to limited types of mob. DK has weaker dr mechanic but applied to much wider mobs. SB has a weak mechanic that is applied to narrow range making him near useless in the competition of drops
think this is in like 2 or maybe 3 days of fishing on vman:
https://i.imgur.com/jRmqY14.png
so is curse of mr looty worth using on vman or no ?
pure afk?
haha imagine active ๐
usually you have same preset on vman with one having 0lv In looty curse
pure afk, pretty sure its all from vman as i see 1 drop pretty much each login. Also havnt done any w1-3 grind, only been w5 99% of the time and briefly w4, not sure if anything in w4 drops it
so i can aim for crystals farming and obols simultaneously. nice. I want lots of pens and lots of obols. and then the obols will give me more pens ๐
after i get mustaches, i'll move to farm genie cards
if you want the pen/obol drops, its mostly on DK
vman is if your skill is already high and need to crystal countdown to progress
right right
so ruby cardifier King Doot is good idea im guessing??
Is that 36 total or an additional 36 for ruby?
i believe its just do you need it now or not question..
especially if you cant reach ruby rift
just figured it would be good bc i need a group to farm doot
but if it's only 36 cards, that's wtv lol
wait im wrong
that looks like the percentage bonus
oh fuck
getting about 1 card per portal on genies lol
guess Iโll let this run tonight
the message from massive troll saying he was the final boss hits different now
about acting dead
xDDD
foreshadowing?
The opossum strat
so this might be a dumb question, just unlocked chemical plants a little bit ago, does researching DNA do anything useful once all plants are unlocked?
ahh cant click it, was wondering if there was something goofy like no-spice meal trophy or the fire lvl1 captain trophy, or something useful like bit-conversion
wild that its still radio silence
Damn it... So i was going to go superchow on BB, and there was something i still needed/wanted to setup before doing BB but now forgot what it was
Ahhh Tower defense
how am i supposed to get 3m bits for shovel 
My money is on that hes gone
With points, does this mean currency during TD?
https://i.imgur.com/yIxMp6s.png
yes
why gaming so slow to start 
have you let the plants you have evolve to t4 to pad out your logbook multiplier?
it start fast after kitsune and shell, nug luck before it
id argue the squirrel does pretty good work as well
Should I save my Hampters for something else ?
well yeh, max carry bags and highest tier weapons
looks like bout 3.4k hampters for a full set assuming only 1x vman
W6 Hampster Breeding
rather have pickle growing, farming
i shall name my first hamster from hamster breeding hamuske
omg, farming would be a potential skill ๐
If Lava gets to copy all the Idle Skilling skills then you'll have farming, gardening and devling as potential skills
yeh, alchemy etc. too
but main thing is, next map will be water based too from the looks
alchemy could be a cool skill
yay more potions or items to waste storage space 
Imagine brewing potion and in late game using particles to max those potions more that would be insane
Or just let atoms die where they belong xD
W6 is just about third liquid which is come back to alchemy
id been wondering what that 4th liquid cauldron at 120 is about
Doot foreshadowing?
not even 120 yet 
im only 63 in alchemy myself, takes forever, but 120 is like a believable lvl to get to unlike some of the other tasks that youre not supposed to get to set at 9999 or variations thereof
Bubo
yeah, my bubos only 63 atm
Eh, once u CC properly you will jump to 100 in no time
how you cc proper
Autoloot
I mean, sitting active on bubo for a week took me like 70 or 80 to 115ish
does CC give xp? i been neglecting that, now i feel like a dumdum
it does give exp
i thought it just gave cauldron progression, thought the xp was seperate, so guess i should fix myself
When you get a 80 hour skip every 16minutes, it's pretty nice xD
im not joining the boat when everyone cc flomb
anyone know how to get lvl 450 faster?
put it active killing crystal on wurm with high GT
first level up that water regen
the liquid?
ok got it thx
u mean trmor wurm right?
Maybe a bit late, but save up. After a while, just don't spend bits.
Only save up if something ever takes less than 2-3ish days imo.
Once i hit 1mil bits, i saved bits up till i could buy shovel. Next time i collected bits, (boosted by shovel) i went from 1k to 3mil.
How do i get more max level for talent book checkouts? I got all the ones you can get from the merit shop. I am trying to hit 200
fury
100 base max talent
125 base library book max
+25 to +75 Sailing Artifact = fury (per grade)
+10 atom collider
+5 achievement 1k book checkouts.
+10 Merit shop
+20 Salt Lick
125+120 = 245 Max
Thats for max book checkout. But there's stuff that influence talent levels after that:
- +25 Slug Companion
- ES Family Bonus
- Class tab 4 talent 15 (bottom right)
- Arctic Bear God Minor
- Yellow Alch Bubble "Big P" in combo with arctic bear
+25 slug is for all skills or is it works same like class tab 4 talent?
All skills*
All skills with 1+ point in it automatically get +25
*with some exceptions
Thank you, i got the salt lick, slug, level 210 es and going to hunt for fury now!
same exceptions like that class 4 talent? like Vman enchancment?
VMan's skills, except the first 4 and class tab4 talent 15 boost. are unboosted
sad
That's a mouthful
why its only add to +120 book, where is the other 25, initial 125 ?
maybee
es, that's it, 125 base book +120 = 245 current max
310ish +/- with all the other stuff
Darn
I failed ๐ฆ
https://i.imgur.com/OO240Kk.png
Poison 37 Kraken 39
less poison more kraken
Meh, recommendation is to get level 40 poison/kraken+, think just slightly underleveled
i think i get on 30 poison
Maybe getting a 245 Stop right there talent would help xD
1 thunder is enough
afk gain rate is useless when active right?
Are sparkle drop obols not craftable? I have 2 hexagons at the upgrade screen and the combine button is greyed even though I have enough fragments.
not everything goes up to sparkle, check the wiki
once u hit dementia
Is it better to roll a +1 then combine obols?
Or does it literally not matter until the final obol
always upgrade obols at their base form
Alright
bigger tier just bigger base stat roll, if you just want +1 misc, roll on base form
going to cost a ton more obol frags, can be something u do super late game once u have nothing to use frags on ig xD
Which obols? This is my slab, all but dementia card drop there
yeh, my storage nearly full at most times ๐ฆ
The only one I can see that doesnโt go to dem is the money
Do you have the coins to do it?
according to wiki, that is correct.
money caps at gold square, the rest are dem.
i should start working on obols...
What's the difference between pop and drop obols?
pop is better at circle, dice evrywhere else
pop lower dr but have round shape
Ahh, so pop is the only source of circle drop rate, after circles, go dice
even at 4% DR/pop, when you have 24 circles total (12 in each) that mounts up, damn.
+0.96 extra DR just from circle obols
i think you can
so 12+12?
yup.
12 + 12 circles
6 + 4 squares
2 + 4 hexagons
1 + 4 sparkles.
for personal + family (i did the pictures the wrong way)
5k sparkles dream
And since drop rate affects obol droprate, i might start farming gigafrogs again soon.
Once i reach the materials needed to build aton collider anyway
gg rip TD, the lag, while clicking a tower made me turn, but i was still facing left, when i did a kick it knocked one of the mobs all the way to the right messing up my poison for the rest of the stuff (during the big wave stuff) xD
But ty for the tip, the 130 lineup did look and feel better than the 121
mhm, no pic on that? ๐
I love TD now where i can just spam "Next Wave" for all 10 waves, until like wave 90ish xD
Rofl xD looks fun
Why is this only 4%
Shouldnt it be like more than 100
Why is surreal gone as well? I assumed he was pro the update seeing he instantly got doot 
Just your total meal levels that arenโt up to spec
Itโs multiplicative for itself, so itโs (1.0066)^222 at the moment for you
Once you get higher skill levels and higher meal levels it goes mental
It works the same with wormhole / plunderous kills, right ?
Those are power of 10, so other way
They get less and less increase for the same amount of kills extra
Yeah right, I got your point, even if there is something I don't understand
For Wormhole, I'm nearly 100k kills and my talent is approx 150 (+0.75% per 10 pow)
The formula should be (1.74)^5, shoulnd't it ? I guess I'm wrong because the displayed bonus is far from the one it should (+3.6% total dmg)
Itโs +0.75%
Not *0.75%
So itโs 0.75*5 which should be 4.25% if my math is correct
Under that since 10k is 3.5 and 100k should be 4.25
But then, I don't understand why it is written that the bonus is multiplicative
The portal/orb/plunderous kills arenโt multiplicative
Ah, to calculate the bonus is not multiplicative, you then take the bonus and multiply that with your damage
This bit isnโt multiplicative
do i multiply my amount of doots?
While for vman it is

So the "multiplicative" here means that if my dmg are, let's say, 10M, then, with the 3.6% bonus, it is now 10.360.000 ?
Ok then the bonus is not that insane until it's trully maxed to milion / bilion kill and that the skill is around 200 levels
3.6% x 1T damage
yea it small, just another pusher
Ok then I'd rather be farming plunderous actively, as the boost is better, right ?
its good, just plunderous mob really need long time to grind
its basically on par with other in term of time
Only after you have vman enhancing it
except plunderous mobs have a high opportunity cost
Okayy, thanks for the help you all !

Again, only after vman enhances it
Thatโs the thing
My vman has been enhancing it since day one
I just donโt active SB
What should i upgrade the most in gaming?
the bonus is 100x lower than it should be, that's just how this skill works atm
The bonus it applies vs the value written has been correct for a while now. It doesnโt immediately catch up when you put points in it, cloud saving will sort it
first skull! Let's gooooooooooo
Everything equally 
where my dmg? :<
try relog
After unlocking it a few days ago, I got my first chemical plant in gaming today. I know that you can get really good gains through it, but I don't fully understand how it works. Do I need to let it evolve to a certain level (mine is level 2)? Do I need multiple chemicals on the board to get started or is one enough?
Level 1 gives you 1 hour, level 2 two hours, level 3 six hours (i think) and so on....
Okay, then it's probably best to let it evolve. I am still not sure how the chaining works, though? From my understanding, you harvest, then hope for more chemicals to spawn? Isn't that very unlikely, though? Because it took me days of playing just to see one of them.
Don't know about chaining or optimizing the harvest. I just bust them chemicals when I have 4 or 5 of those.
@split python it gives you the square of its tier in hours. T1 = 1, T2 = 4, T3 = 9
You harvest cacti first, then everything else leaving chemicals. Then you repeat this after claiming every sprinkler you can, then you do the last two steps after completing every log you can. Then and only then do you claim a chemical. This gives you sprinkler procs back and takes time off your log
Remember to claim nugs after every chemical or log too
Ah, perfect, thank you! That's very helpful.
Anyone know the formula for shell ranks are in gaming?
How much is needed for each rank etc.
When did the eldrich artifacts become an option? That minus I think 4 days I've been trying to get the fury artefact. Like am I doing something wrong with this or something? Just running basically every ship out to it so that every single chest is for that island.
Imma kms guys
With Rift release
Somehow I thought wurm tail was the last mob of w5 drop
So Iโve not unlocked rift
Even tho Iโve been in w5 since before rift release
Kill me now
Okay, I wasn't sure if it was with rift release or the patch a week later.
Ooof. Yeah it came out maybe 2 months ago?
I don't think it was second batch. I think that was a construction thing and Ruby cards
I've got an average of like .05% or so it seems. I have gotten a single eldrich artefact in that time.
Yeah Rage is a special level of frustrating. I usually recommend turning off the Siege breaker ability to stack chests
Is there a simple way to turn that off without unspeccing from it entirely?
Nope.
:/
I suppose resetting my two SBs isn't really that big of a deal.
It sure isn't hahaha
Just switch devices for a free reset. That way you can finish greenstacking those shards faster.
/joke
Ugh... I hate that bug.
hi, do I want to give my bubo the strongest armor possible? he is lacking dmg and I am trying to find ways to improve his dmg
I'd say so. Stronger gear usually has more enhancement slots, which means more base stats, which means yay dmg
But don't neglect doing tool upgrades either.
is there a way to see how much damage i need for x2 kills on a certain enemy, like for multikill to activate
Yup - Pull up the card of the mob you're after, take their HP x 2, should be MK
Well, just went through 46 bottled winds after setting it to not stack and I got nothing.
I just got this achievement. What does it exactly do does it give me two chests for one or?
Or does it give lets say 100 gold +1?
When you open a treasure chest it rolls a certain amount of times. Gold Bar, Normal Resource, Special Resource.
Oh, damn.
Rage really sucks lol ๐ฆ
Man, blood berserker and beast master kind of suck to level because of how slow they are in active combat.
ugh I think I really neglected skilling on almost every character
At least bb got some kill objectives to do, bm got nothing but lend his drone license to his family
With the new Voidwalker perk BM is nice for breeding, but then it also kind of sucks because of how slow getting kills with BM is.
Yeah, it's something that definitely becomes a big priority with rift unlocked, because of skilling maseteries (Bonuses based on total account skill levels), but it's a good idea to poke at. Just keep your VMan at the highest!
Once my BBs are done super chow, they're going to cook until the end of their days.
yeah I think I will get to it sooner or later, but my first prio is to be able to grind some xp with my chars in w5 like all my chars are still too weak for map1 haha
Dumb question - You don't have any of the prayers that give mobs more HP, or lower your def or HP on right?
Tips for Poing and what high score is reasonable to achieve?
I've been working fairly heavily on getting a few god ranks. I need to get the last levels in the lab for the rift bonuses, and then BB is going to get stuck in the kitchen for the rest of its life.
no, I only use these after weekly reset for the first few giants
Then really, I'd recommend using HP recovery food on your characters.
Oh - Sorry. Read too weak and my brain read ' guys going splat '
Accuracy?
yeah it is accuracy and dmg
but only my DK pushed to w5 and he is lvl 150. Like he is just okay at map1. others are around lvl 90-100
If you're missing, I always recommend Shaquarcy (Archer bubble),
Also jesus I didn't realize you could get to W5 at that level
I really pushed w4 with my DK hard haha
Make sure you're: Burning your talent book checkouts
Make a map for better weapons (Unless you're already waiting on W5 mats)
I think I was around there when I got to W5. Most of my family was levelled to 100 for access to the lab scrubs and then stuck in the lab while I pushed W4 on my ES.
was this a question for me? haha
Yeah
whats the best way to farm skilling cards? (chopping / mining) active doesnt seem to drop much on max card drop /dr setup vman
Star signs as well.
at least I am constantly working on construction
makes sense, so just afk?
candy it is then
I'll get a particular hankering for punishtment and go candy splurging from time to time.
Build for card drop as well.
i have max card drop setup, rest drop rate, although with just afk ill prob replace droprate with afk gain rate
yeah I farmed giantfrog card to gold yesterday. the w4 card% one is gold too. only snelbie left at 1star
after that I want to focus drop% cards
im gonna go crazy on samples soon, so ill need my skilling cards atleast at 4 star
ive got 110m copper and 220m oak, i want to double it at least ๐
Oh yeah, I just found out yesterday that you can pen your way past post office tasks that you don't have the resources for. I've now got something like 2600 points to apply when earlier this week I had 900.
Better prints than me!
i should have resampled already, but i want to squeeze more out of it
110m/hour?
with eldrich print artifact, i may not need to resample for a while
on copper ore yes @pliant warren
I had no idea there was a way to toggle the hud like that
there are people with way higher samples
I need to do a better job at resampling / talent booking the right skills, but sampling gets crazy
it really does, i also want to 245 every talent for sampling
but with 4 warriors 3 mages, i need a LOT of books
I just finished snowman vial, so that'll be a big uptick again.
Well that does explain why the particle accelerator ramps as high as it does, but I have no idea how to get there from whre I am now.
Honestly, I was sayin the same thing about two months ago.
its part of the progress, early on its not worth it to bother too much with atoms
snowball vial is just sample rate right? or is there a difference between sample size and rate?
I found breaking my set up into goals worked best. Major and minor. I find doing general account maintenance consistently but focusing on something different every 3 days or so gave me best returns.
I mean, I don't get where I'm supposed to get another 100x the output from where I am.
No difference to my knowledge @fallow pawn
What's the command for the gem shop tier list ?
Just got to w5 and have a couple gms to spare
not that important then i guess, print rate is easily capped with prayer
there are so many ways @pliant warren cards, alchemy, gear, star signs, just main stat too, artifacts from sailing etc
its a sum of everything
And it ususally always falls down to alchemy if I'm being honest hahaha
i mean for skilling its really everything, just the idle skilling trophy is like 30% efficiency with doubler card
That stupid thing.
maestro is another 100%+ etc
So happy to be done with it.
i got that right after my last sampling, so thats another thing that will bump it up
Yeah, but I'm in mostly W4 and a touch of W5 gear, my talents are getting pretty close to maxed out, star signs are all unlocked, permanent star signs are getting close to filled out, alch is getting to the point where supplies are becoming a major blocker rather than the fluids, all of my artefacts are ancient, I have pretty close to maxed out card setups. Like, I don't see all that much extra wiggle room to keep going up.
And yeah, my record for oak logs is because I've handled my vman properly.
If you share your idleon efficiency I can take a boo, if you'd like.
esp for chopping/mining vman is so important, its actually quite weak for things like worship, not sure why
i mean in terms of efficiency through right hand
I'm waiting to try to get zerg rushogen before I do my next sampling batch
5 Characters are missing Efaunt Keys
3 Characters are missing Chizor Keys
Your mini bosses are hauntingly overdue
Anvil: I'd have Maestro doing Thread x 3, everyone else doing thread x 1 and two other things. Only dump into speed, nothing else really matters.
I'd recommend going back to the lab so that you're getting XP on both.
It's one of the perks of one of the gods. You gain divinity XP while in the lab.
you have your red salts auto refining at 10%. Never ever ever. Your red should always be fired when full.
Same with greensin my opinion.
Oh, should I be stockpiling that much red for something? Just the DK perk or something else?
Yeah, and you'll always want more ranks.
Ahh
salt caps at 1m cap and it still goes faster with every rank, so at 20+ it will start filling faster and ranking up faster
For your guys parked in divinity, I'd actually park them in Lab with Goharut rather than in Div with Arctis but that might be a personal preference.
And if you're an idiot like me who levelled their oranges up a bunch, you need a really high level of reds to be salt positive ๐ฆ
Oh... Damn
Fortunately I realized relatively early on what the balance was and have been following that.
i never stopped ranking up any salts lol
i rank up only when its max, on every salt. but bad idea for people who are short on mats though
not bad for a 2 hour candy 
i might just 5 star it
Not bad at all.
Yeah, that's my choke point right now. I'm held up on various salts for stuff.
I mean only probably 10h worth of candies? So yeah probably
I did the first four fish and that wasn't a thrill.
to 5 star or 4?
5
ill go for chopping mining first, its the most important
i dont even use fishing samples
my fishing character has all fishes + copper and iron = uses big copper sample 99% of time
Now that I finished Kraken Vial and Land Shark Vial I probably won't much? I still use land sharks for the cooking stamp tho
cooking is nice yeah, ill have to resample land shark too sadly
I'm aroun 2k ladles a day, just been poking away at that. W5 super chows taking too long. ๐ฆ
i get 2,1k too, im not using them though, ill start super chowing soon
ive got like 45k ladles saved up
That's a lot lmao
Man, this channel and endgame make me feel sad. I'm so proud of where I am and then I see stuff like that and people getting superchows and I feel so useless.
it was the same for me when i started again after 1,5 years of pausing the game
now i have been playing for like half a year+ and times are changing ๐
any lava news?
i wouldnt super chow unless you have at least 5m kills / h
I really feel like I'm missing some aspect to this where things ramp up. Like, my best characters right now are only getting something like 200k kills/h on green mushrooms or something when set up for max multikill.
I've been playing since January. I've had a fair while to get things built up I think.
most important is afk gain, dmg and multikill per tier, but its again the sum of everything, youll have so many sources that it will get insane. also nobisect god just flat doubles it
some other people had years to build everything up, its best to got at your own pace, just strife to get better at every step.
Yeah, right now I really want to get Doot but that's basically just ultra RNG that makes you go god mode kind of literally.
it is really strong, there is good reason why people are complaining about that specific pet
That's kind of an amusing typo or incorrect spelling considering the context.

not my first language, ive actually thought about both words and still got it wrong haha
Yeah, most of the time if I understand what's being said I don't mention it because of the whole grammar police thing. But this one was too perfect not to mention.
i saw there's a gem shop upgrade that increases sailing loot pile cap, i can't find where to check what it is right now? is there a place to check it?
no worries, i dont mind being corrected, no one is perfect. although i could just pretend it was intentional.... 
check what it does? you can just store more chests before its full. its 1 per purchase @narrow cloak
what's the default cap tho?
i haven't bought any upgrades, i wanna know how many i can hold now
when the hell do alchemy liquids speed up
Cranium
should I active my bubo then instead of ES
dont know really, its been too long, you could just let it run full and check the pile @narrow cloak
I havent pushed w5 at all
Just depends whatever you wanna prio I canโt be arsed to active either and just leave it afk
gotcha
could it be that it's 3?
If u got extra talent points while ur afk mobbing just put it in alchemy exp as well so ur bubo gets more alchemy levels
I think it's more than 3.
loot pile start at 5 iirc
cool thanks
I am always strapped for coins lol, when does it become easier to farm money? I heard it was when you unlock the penny bubbles from alchemy?
Do u have the end of lab unlocked?
Thereโs a bonus there called fungi something something
Per 1 m green mush kills u get 1 or 2% more cash
People just grind dna samples at gmush
To get that up as well
Gotcha, appreciate it
Mobbing at your latest unlocked map also ups ur cash
Esp in world 5
As you keep pushing world 5 u easily get void and lustre coins
Yeah, I am currently working on unlocking goat god in divinity
And later the sun fire orange one
I was told to rush goat god, link them all to it, then keep progressing
Yep thatโs a solid plan
I'm so close, I am at the hare right now and I have the itch to keep pushing already ๐ญ its been like 4-5 days lol
Did u put all ur chars on Div?
umm i just reached w5 should i be putting everyone on divinity to get some gods too?
divinity gods are a huge buff, its worth at least getting to bear god
Yea just get bear and then start splitting it however u want
I've got 4 of mine in divinity rn. my vman and mmanjunior are farming (for cards). 3 of my chars are doing the boring afk constellation grind, and my ES is pushing
Ya thereโs no rush in w5 tbh
When u rush it ur gonna have to go back to ur other sources anyway cos rift is quite hard scaling
which one is bear? the wiki only has the names
Second one
do you think I should use my ES to push even tho its got all the perks for divinity and exp bonuses?
Arctic
Do u have 2 ES?
If not u can just camp him on Div for a while
my second one isn't ES yet, I just unlocked him
oh yeah always being in lab sounds dope, guess i'll put more people on divinity, only had 3 right now
Also if u didnโt know when u unlock th e gods u can upgrade the bonus that they give
Should I make it a priority to get my second ES and then just stick him on divinity?
With some resources
U should make it a priority
To unlock all the elite classes
For ur characters if u havenโt
I have all but him
okay cool
Cos I think the things stack
If ur lacking in damage thatโs where alchemy comes in
Especially the last bubble
hey i have a question about Blobby G from sailing. When does the value you can trade change and when does the resource you can trade change?
There is a rotating schedule, some of the tools have the list posted, and theres a spreadsheet for it.
I'll post them one sec
Im getting mad to get the ancient artifacts, my probability to get a new one are to low. Anyone knows how to get more chances?
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Owwh ty my friend.
no worries, glad I could finally help someone in w5 chat lol
well if i have another question i will ask it here. Normally i look at the wiki or some of the pinned post. but i really couldt find it. maybe just looked over it hahah
I feel ya. and yeah lol w5 chat is so much more helpful than the other world chats
so much less shitposting
Yep, well i just go to the world i have a question about. often i do get an answer. sometimes its just get good noob or look it up yourself XD
Yeah LOL
But thankyou for the advice, you're a good man.
you probably don't get partial divinity points right? like if i get 1/hr and i log in at 59 minutes i'll get 0?
you don't, I had that same issue when I was just starting
Chest spam is honestly the best way to brute force it. Aim for tusk artifact first, get used to seeing 0.0x chances cuz they are here to stay.
gonna suck for a while then, can't login whenever i want or i waste points lmao
well thx
I have a couple tips to make it less painful.
- If you have an ES, make sure to have the divinity exp buff talent to all characters
- If you have extra gems, get the W5 bonus "divinity sparkle" (you'll also want to prioritize getting golden sprinkler, but thats unrelated to divinity)
- Try to get the style "Chakra" asap lol, it'll help a lot
I don't know how the god blessings work, but the snake and bear gods also have a +% divinity gain that you can level
yeah i put all my points into div xp, spent all my gems on the sprinkler
i think i read it's based on the characters divinity level or something
I put some points into them just in case they help even if not linked lol. I also am using the medium resource card set bonus for +% Skill exp
doesn't seem that +% skill xp works, but the mage special skill xp talent works i think
Yeah I don't know, I was just putting it out there lol. Its hard to find a lot of information on how the mechanics of divinity exp and stuff work, so I sorta just tried everything
Yeah I think you're right
The divinity gain from the gods is for the points
U get more points per hour
Itโs in the info tab on Div I think
When u click it
Thereโs a multiplier
sweet then its still helping then
that's what i want nice, but still working on my first god
does it apply even if you arent linked to that god tho?
Those bonuses are for everyone doing Div yes
rad
The only thing thatโs localised is the minor link bonus
So those +talent levels on bear
Will only go to those linked to bear
Idk how doot works with that tho
Can I claim sailing gain with every char?
Just looked into skill info, said 1h ready to claim on my dk
Oh no idea what that ia
afaik sailing is the same as breeding as in the level and progress is shared between all characters
Ah okay so it's better to claim with sb?
i think it doesn't matter as long as the talents are active on sb, but i'm no expert
as long as you have your sb on the correct talent page you can claim on anyone. if you have someone on purrmep with big P bubble on you want to claim on that char
Okay thanks
maybe just me but after having these companions awhile i feel like sheepie is the most op one
what are the best spots for dk statue farming in each world? is there a list somewhere?
big p basically does nothing when afk (works when claiming their afk in a way tho)
Beans, snelbie (sand pot for best value), bloodbones, clammies, oj. I suppose
k thanks, sandpot for overall value with glass shards etc or why?
w4 is clammies? i wasnt sure on that but thought the same
glass shards outweighs the โslighly more statues at snelbieโ
glass shards and refinery mats^
makes sense, big inventory stamp goes brrrr
Clammies kind of a similar place of added pearls outweighs the slight more statues from other single platforms
i still need some tools and troll armor pieces, so definitely need pearls
Though usefulness of clams are less than glass
i didnt think clammies was bad, thats why i was saying XD
the % all stats is nice but the cost to get is just unreasonable XD lol
clams are like 1.5 lane platform so its good enoigh map
beyond 1k pearls vial seems nearly impossible anyway
or at least effort/reward isnt that great
meh it does get better later farming pearls not that i wanna or anything tho
also worth noting the statue gain on w4 and w5 falls off considerably compared to all previous worlds
money statue kind of nice but thats pretty much it for w4
just got my vial hot and ready, so ill be farming statues for a while ๐
how do I cloudsave?
Player select screen
then what? or is it auto?
Going to plater selection screen also just force cloud saves
sweet thanks
dang man how many vials total you have
27 currently, still got some my vman will print out easily in the next few days @burnt parcel
Yeah

Does anyone know how many hours it takes for the shovel to produce a gold nugget? Seems like 1 every 4-5 hours?
And does the chances for higher value nugget go up the longer you wait or does that not matter?
- it's every hr and scales from then to higher numbers, and it doesnt affect the rarity if u wait longer
yep there u go
Ah so itโs extends like everything else
Thanks yโall
Yโall the OGs forreal Iโm tryna get like yโall
๐ซก
what does obol snapshot even mean, does it do anything if i already have a full obol setup while active play on dk?
Finally unlocked the 4th battle pet slot
Letโs gooo
Is there a guide for optimal setup? Like which pets to use
im confused about how multikill bubble works, so i had 333% multikill bonus, got myself yellow multikill bubble and grinded it up to 17%, my total multikill is still 333%
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try cloudsaving maybe it didnโt update yet
Do you know what the โnew post office upgrade crateโ bonus in the pet arena does?
Doesnโt seem like it did anything
theres another tab of upgrades in the post office that unlocks after doing enough post office tasks
you unlocked a new crate in that tab
You cant candy world 5? Thats kind of odd isnt It?
was the same when w4 was the current world
its so endgamer dont "finish" the game on patch day 1
Is there a time limit for It or Is It just forever until world 6
did you equip the bubble on that char?
ohh it s a big bubble wow ok that s the reason
yeah
What Is the mining game/skill Iโve seen where people get some 20k gold nuggets as well as the trade offer. Is that just in sailing?
When trading happens I can trade you a sheepie for free
Enjoy your big bubbles all the time
your multikill should increase a fair bit, its multikill per tier so if u have like 3 tiers itd be 51%
whoa they max out?
yeah i didnt notice it s big bubble, thx guys
most bubbles have a hard set max number yeah. like even with infinite levels it will never reach that number
Troll Shoes or New weapon first?
well weapon is good but if you have mats for it.. go for both
Salt locked
what is you gear on foot now ?
Weapon usually, depends on your other gear and the charackter
Wow bro.. FUCK div
So fking annoying man. Canโt even play the game w all these dumb fucks praying on that dumbass pedestal just to waste hours of progress on a dumbass roll
/endrant

Step 1. Have all character on Div til you unlock Goat
Step 2. Aim for Tranqi
Step 3. Profit
is it a bad idea to use this to get copper bars? (to max that vial)
Still on step 1, hitting 128 div pts an hour w 9 chars on the pedestal. Trying to get the fuckin 100% roll by rolling 1%โs but when I get a 5 or 10% on the left hand side itโs even worse smh
All my slots use that fuel, you get enough each day it won't matter
Just go for the weapon and farm mats for troll gear and w5 gear if you can.
It gets better, it's not really one you can rush
I just want to be able to actively play again ๐ฅฒ thankfully got work & ff16 to keep me occupied
I went with 1% chance until i got rerolled to 100%. But yeah the start is slow
Same thatโs what Iโm doing. Unfortunately havenโt gotten the 100% yet. Itโs just agonizing rolling a 1% and then it changes to 10%, now I gotta wait 2 days to roll again ๐ญ
Again I have all slots using that fuel and buying more each day. Number still go up
and are u producing copper bars?
cuz i can make more than 1M dementia bars per day haha
I'm making all of them

go to other world and come back

2x copper, 3x Iron, 1x gold, 1x plat, 1x dem, 2x nullo, 1x green, 2x red, 3x yellow
....... and u used that to figure that i could produce copper bars using oil and still have a surplus?????? genius
1m dementia bars per day? Never knew it could go that high?
i just started divinity, how do you reroll the two choices for spending div points?
use time candy on your SB, you burn through em like CRAZYYYYY
gmush farming OP
with maxed forge skill
You spend divinity. It rerolls โeach timeโ. The 1% chance option is cheap and with enough luck you get 50 or 100% chance.
Most are in a time out in dual lab/div pushing for 80 div
That's a future problem
oh i must've been unlucky, i rolled a few times and got the 1% and 25% each time
Ahhh Smeltinโ erryday, i always wondered why my bars went that much quicker when i wasnโt in w5 ๐
you can take em out for a but]
bit*
hahaha
yeah its a very good skill
Doublekill
you can see the previous relic that got eldritched

I think I'm about halfway to full eldritch and I already got most of the important ones
Should I just dump all my guys into Divinity as soon as I get to w5 ?
Yes
Yes
You sure? 

Get at least bear god asap #1 priority
Then you can spare one or two characters somewhere else while the rest work on div
I have had all my characters for 15 hours working on Divinity, I got the bear but should I keep them there for the next god?
Most gods are good enough to rush, imho
If you still need lab levels, get goat
Cat is superb for sailing/gaming
Is that the 4th god? the goat I mean
5th, I think
Dang
its all coming together now
is the chance for a divinity offering to move to another tier known? like when i do an offering, what's the chance my 25% will turn into 50%? i'd love to try to figure out the cheapest way to do divinity
The strat I did and what is recommended most often is to roll the cheap option until you hit 100% on the more expensive one
Thanks for the help 
yes
I didn't even know that was an option, I rolled the most expensive one until I ran out of Divinity 
I'm not w5 but w5
?
For Sailing what is the best choice:
More Captain Slots and More Ships, or focus on spending gold to upgrade speed and loot?
Do you know if you can jump from 25 straight to 100%?
yoooo, i just got a 20 streak on printer go brrrrr
always more captains
lets gooooooooooooooooooooo
Yes. It's random afaik
capn slots and upgrade with treasure
capn and ship i mean
u get whats cheaper (but thats common knowledge i assume
For now I have 8 captains and ships slot.
hten keep buying until you have 20
then *
its worth it 100%
Ok, thanks! 
but focus on artifacts that help with sailing first imo
like u'd be considered dumb for saving gold to unlock a shit that costs 100K when your speed/gold upgrade on your main ship is only 5K ............
untrue
wdym maxxed sailing XD
all good relics check
youve all relics?
do you have....... ELDRICH FURY ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
yes all the good ones, im just missing i think 4 random ones
Is there any difference between W1-W5 Crystal mobs?
not in the way the are designed
Different drop tables for loot
acc cba with the last ones XDD
their drops 
see, thats why u think its better to neglect your main boats just to get extra boats!, u reap what u sow

gotta love all of them
My boat a slow boat, you might need a raincoat.
i got enough speed to 2 hour the second last island, but ijust cba anymore XD
theyre all on island 1
Prolly a stupid question, but what is cba?
what does CBA stand for
cant be arsed
Ah
wtf u are missing all the good relics lol how can u be CBA
Bri'ish slang?
can't be ๐ 'd
cant be arsed ^
yeah XD
o.o
i got fury, now im chilling
?
sus guy giving u gold for loot
sussy blobby
If the offer seems too good to be true it probably is
so u click that and get gold to upgrade your boats when u feel like its a good deal
I have Six gold 
right? specialy if its gold per gold
Govt. funded project to test if people will be good or bad

blobuytes are just the sillhouettes of dead Oompa Loompas
Also, there's no sus guy here
Yes... 
i took a break from the game just before that happened XD
looking for fellow rare stormy north loot deficient players to take a stand with me
sad, new players maxed whole sailing with that and didnt lose anything lol (some ven got boat levels
great event
tbh thats not even an issue anymore
I abused the shit out of it. Had to redo some things, but won in the end
being dootless is still an issue
I never could have the rare currency before that shitshow
anyone got recently?
i only lost all my eldrich with that, and didnt gain a single thing cuz i had clicked a few times for the fun kkkkkkkkkkkkk
damn
it was GOOD in the end u know? cuz after that i joined the omniphau cult and started running 9 of that guy, worked out well in te end
12 days
maxed sailing so im chilling
What's a good thing to use gilded stamps on?
Like expensive things that give good boni
9 omniphau? chilllingggg
right/ thats insane. Now im nly with 6
Rip. I had barely started sailing before that 'event' and got all islands unlocked and some god maxed. Only got rolled back to about where I was before, sailing wise. Ended up having to redo prints, but those were way past due anyway. 9/10 would click again
unlesss youre dooting. then 10x omni
lol
yeah new players got to unlock all boats/all islands easily, it was great
gimme doot!!!!
im waiting for a signal of life from lava before i think about spending on doot
i spent 20 quid
more for the quality of life than anything else tho
nicee thats great, i got all but the last 2
qol of not having to worry about too many factors behind resampling
yeah i just need doot now to actualy chill
same XDDD
im done with all areas tho, so it will just to get extra prints and 1B deathnote with everyone
do you get 10x purrmep too? or how does the kitty cat work?
im done with sailing, breeding, gaming, refinery, etc. just need prints
only 1
i meant with doot
only 1
No
but 6x prints for all is nutty enough
Right , just imagine
Oh yeah most definitely
this is making me wanna buy doot XD
yeh its great. For now i only have the main skillers with x6 prints
so 3 ore and 3 log
later? oh yeah, im relying on logs for atoms tbh
):
yeah tahts a lot. What is kinda neglegible" are the fishing/catching prints for atom
I only make 17k copper per hour and 27k of that wood ):::
thats good!
You can't! There's a chance that you buy 2000$ worth of rolls and get 0 doots ๐คก๐คก
Don't worry you'll get better.
Recently tripped my log sample
I will trust your words for now
yeah 27k is already enough to get green stack (10M) of anything
sorry didnt mean to tag yo u
It's fine
I do indeed have two green stacks (copper and oak logs) 
How did you get to 200Mil? 
mwahahah
Bad idea
Servers punishments are cringe
server punishments?
Bigger prints?
Its fun tho if you like boring grind
Yup
aight solid
Currently printing these for max vial, will take a while.
What's the one below?
W5 second tier bugs

I need to print kraken too because that's vial lvl 12 too
I don't even have enough efficiency for the W4 bugs
Best strat for this? Dont kill ones with skulls or? Not really sure how the skulls work
Kraken will wait 
es
just es, and auto, come back later
lol ty
ES and SB.
If your damage is high enough bubo fine too
do you guys know if there is a bug with the fart cloud from bubo. Like I have 3.4 mill Accuracy and the poison ticks miss the enemies in w5
Are you sure? I've never seen it miss
did you put points into canister ?
no...
fart monster farts are not toxic by default, need some chem to help with that
you dont have to put canister on the bar, but you deffinatly want to max it
Thanks ๐ now it works fine xD
Lol just went from 5b to 13b dmg on my ES with 45 levels in the last bubble. Took me a while to get from 4b to 5b
How do yall be doing that amount of dmg
higher level skills and stamps/bubbles that sort of thing

