#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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im not sure, all the smart ppl got banned, its just us now, sorry
xD
chow is probably less relavant after vmans insane buff to cooking though
Super chows are still good tho
Dont have a single one but saw that they scale pretty good
feeling like you might not have vman there
I have Vman, dont know how many meal levels but its a pretty good number
Does tent work afk
I've been saving boss keys up to prep for the vman speedrun
Dont think so
nope
Vman doesn't diminish the value of chow at all they literally do two different things
If anything vman makes chow stronger. More cooking speed means more value per ladle so getting more ladles is even more beneficial than it was pre vman
As for the original question yes you can chow the rift and no its not each stage. One single chow for the whole thing
Oh wow I shouldn't have progressed so far, chef will make 13k kills/hr at this point
Yeah I'm not looking forward to super chowing the rift
you mean this?
Oh no you poor soul
I maxed speed first, then the others
i got to the 16th bubble on all cauldron
max it all
I finally figured this out:
you can still get the next ones, even though can't nav to them yet
I should get around to maxing the cauldrons at some point.
The up arrow, I found the bubbles past max
Yeah
Every bubble has a higher cost than the last
No that is normal, the cost boost reduces the cost of the bubble upgrades, not the new bubble attempt cost
oh
Oh look, a trial run at how many attempts for doot:
anyone heard any new or rumours?
when you preunlock the next world bubbles
There isnt one. It'd just be to do it. Maybe I can finish maxing them in one CC ๐ค
best outcome
i wouldnt be hating him
i see it as "im sorry for being shit, so ill get someone better"
i figured when u said "spread it" lol
Dont see that lava admin of this group
is there a range on autoloot
nope
this stuff at amarok has been sitting for like 2 mins
Give 1
Trade the 2nd Doot to someone for the Slug laters
we think the game is for us, meanwhile he's playin an winnin, and we're still here too so i guess no complaints
Yeah he is winning the money. While I'm spending your right
I won't be improving my portal score on my vman for a while, what god should i link him to?
do you skill him up a lot and skills over lvl 50? flutter might be good
Skills are above 50, but flutter not unlocked yet, have up to omni
Omni is usually the way to go although you could maybe argue harriep now that his prints are actually relevant
Probably still just omni though
can't go WRONG depending on what you think you're doing for the next few days, and with 2 unlinks a week, if you cange your mind you can fix it
Omni would probably help more than harriep in the immediate future so I'll go with that for now, reset is in 1 day so I won't have to live long with that choice if i regret it
What's the (P).. never noticed that before.
passive
Why some are abbreviated and some not then?
the abbreviated are passive from the rift skills mastery. other ones that were passive before that have teh wording
Ah... ok. Just advanced more of the rift this morning. That's why. Thnks for clarifying.
can you candy constellation reqs?
the afk reqs? nope
ugh 24h on snakes feels like such a waste of time
thats what i was thinking
ah yes, my bad. I remember candies didnt work, but I used the wrong one
Iโll trade ya, I have 3 ๐
nice
Buying another set green gems last set, wish me luck guys I need it
Good luck
Spent about 80 in total can't afford anymore ๐ฆ
is there a build of 140+ glublin TD?
You only spent 1/3-1/2 of what you need
3 been 4 sheep, already had these ๐ฆ
... 80 pulls is nothing for doot
I'm done now can't afford anymore. Shame as ยฃ80 into game and feels like I'm still massively missing out
And you shouldn't. As far as it seems the dev has abandoned the game.
yea since lava hasnt said anything it feels like he had this money grabbing update just to make some easy cash before he stops working on the game
another soon to be done
is this worth turning this premium
Yes
wait so as for the upgrade slots, what happens if i upgrade this with like w5 stones will it just cancel out after changing it
Interesting question, you could try it or try it with the upgrade stone c. Either way if it is premium you would have to use premium stones.
Premium resets all stats and gives it +1 all stat, it's not worth it other than for looks
lol
Was lost inside gaming for 40min straight. Kept on getting chemical ones.
But canโt you upgrade it still with premium stones?
thats unlikely, he'd surely get greedy and do some token updates to pad out the time, then drop even more overpowered pets
keep in mind the class restriction stays
if u premiumify an archer hat, a warrior wont be bale to wear it
uโre not missing out. i literally got 8 cooking procs in a row from elephantโฆ itโs another form of depression that you unlock
when going for a high level of grind time would you recommend using the water lab bonus it slows by 30 percen or not?
Depends how fast it fills up
also depends whether the 30% reduction is additive or multiplicative, although it wont make a big change
just unlocked goat god lets goooo
Now I can continue to AFK, but in the lab with that tasty double dipping
Now I am gaming
Nice nice, i should be leveling divinity on at least 9/10 characters, but currently farming deathnote for vman
Leveling maestro sucks
But once i get vman, everybody except my one pusher will be into divinity
It does, i just managed to get it.
Am I doing something wrong with him? I got the golden snowflake fist weapons and ephaunt armor but he does like 350k damage max
Only got W3 to deathnote now for vman and i'm done
Is that his shown damage on the character page?
His actual damage is not that
Does anyone elses game freeze on moltis? its my first time experiencing it on steam
I moved my ES out of divinity to farm some levels and he cleared half of W4 in a day and gained like 35 levels
Meanwhile, my maestro is vibing on the same map for the past 4 days lol
My mman's base damage is 780k to 1.9m damage, but the first punch just did 2.8m
Because the talents don't factor in damage to the player stats
Yeah extra punches aren't included Wooooo
specifically the punches i mean.
Wouldn't want our multikill too high
okay so his damage is bad, just not AS bad haha
Pretty much.
U need more skill lvl for more dmg
I only have about 20 more lvls to 150 and then I can see what all the hubub is about with vman
After getting 12mil kills...
ah yeah my worship is lvl 0 ๐
So it gives like no bonus
Once i get vman, he's going to be stuck in divinity.
I need to fix that
Go for min lvl 50 all skill
Can I just use him at the W3 totem to farm exp?
Its good place to start
With his skill farming build on. aka maxed out cooking (as much as i can)
U see?
Yeah mines low. i need to focus on that too
*first
Vman first.
Because my right hand applies to myself
That sounds bad out of context
It will be more skilling to all charecters
Yeah, i know. it's just slow to lvl. but boosted right left hand of learning will help
I'd rather stick mman on farming some sort of w3 mob while i'm active on ES so i can get to vman earlier by about an hour
Which meta set-up is that?
somewhere in pins i assume
Cards , big bublles , talents , gear..
It will help by a ton
Would love 8 procs of cooking lol
Cards always change.
I got sheepie.
talents wise will get changed once vman, because i had tonnes of spare tab 1 talent points so i just dumped.
I'll also be getting dedicated gear soontm too
is it possible to turn this back on after fight started? if so, how?
impossible to turn back onto active, you have to manually click
And post ofice on all skill
zzz damn alright thanks bro . just two more battles. annoying as heck
That wont take long, only 10 years.
But yes, office too.
i STILL haven't unlocked the additional post office boxes
19 more boxes for w4 deliveries
Active es is ez pens so it will help , i get like 30-40 at kngit
Fortunately ES is my go to
So go go go
YUp. i am. Also for W3 deathnote
Wouldn't dk be better for pens? because pens are within bags?
I dont relly know to be onest
I've heard somewhere that ES is better for front page farming (main item + singular rare stuff), whereas Dk is better for bag stuff, and mman for bosses
Im doing green stack at the moment 2 more for w4 and using es , gating like 30-40 pens and like 15m mobs drop when i sleep
I think dk is better for cristal drop
pens or statues you go dk
DK for crystals, ES for loot, tbh the others are meh
^
SB is there to look nice
BB is just shit
Anyone remember the portal number to get to big worms
And be a pirate.
Looks flashy, has no real use
Wanna see if I can get to big worm before my weekend ends
BB and hunter are just sad and useless
like last map?
10 mil
from crawlers to wurms
So I need 15m more kills
me with only 40k kills an hour

"+25 Max to whale summons, and +500px range. Also, all Beast Master kills have a 50% chance to reduce incubator time by 3 sec."
Clear map, get incubator time reduction.
wait when and from what?
vman eclipse
Enhances a new Talent for another class every 25 points invested, up to 250.
ah see i cant get that, my max talent is up to like 200 is the hioghest i can get
lvl 150 enhancement eclipse.
can someone look at my IE and tell me what i can do better https://sentinelknocker.idleonefficiency.com/
i feel like the most important, least talked, overpowered systems is the Mailbox
Post office is only overlooked because it's the "hardest" to grind.
but it can be completed ๐
the mana box is one of the BIS for active classes!
i thought so too and then choco chip happened and within a week i had everything but myriad maxed
It's only down for about 10 seconds (including the crazy mob respawns after portal)
Choco chip does too much.
and chips don't appear often enough
it also boosted my bubo dk and es to 400 in no time from W5 crystal spawns and just leaving it active overnight

whats this do guys?
itโs like a toddler to the snailโฆ small bit gain and faster plant growth time
Its actually reaclly good, plants are worth 3x less but grow 4x faster.
The part that makes it great the seashell that you already have scales bits by total evolutions (for each rank u get to) so youll get to higher ranks faster making you multiply the bits more
It also helps unlocking higher tier plants if you've unlocked t5 or even t6 from superbits store
PS: FALSE: This was assuming it was the kitty, mixed it up, that's the squirrel
this is the squirrel i thought
should I bother unlocking the animal box?
of course!
i only have these two unlocked so far
You should bother unlocking everything always,. as long as saving up doesnt take more than like 2ish days. focus on more bits etc first
yeah it's going to take me about another day to get to 500M lol
waiting a day is short
Yeh so it is the squirrel, you get nuts over time which help multiply bits and faster plant growth
nice ill wait to unlock it!
Yeh, op but can set you back weeks
Level 7 = 3 weeks, if i fail in 3 days that's a big rip ๐ฆ
haha ๐ it brings you ahead by months tho too โบ๏ธ
Is 1000 T = 1Q ?
yes
Nearly thinking if i should keep snail at lvl 7 and just go for 5Q now 
yeah you could start playing snail safe
Would probably take 2-3 weeks itself, but at least that'd be guaranteed vs risk of losing it all
Still a little low for saving out 5Q but idk :/
whats the highest defence you guys got?
but at 13 you must have gotten the 5Q superbit already?
Idk but defense gets somewhat irrelevant, pretty easy to get to 5k+ ๐คท
damn
Arnt basically all the reds on that side very much just "meh" unlocks, guess the 10% cheaper atoms at 2 red was nice, even moar bubbles sounds a bit small in terms of %. The last locked one is nice but also near unreachable xD
been getting some light reading done. apparently waiting until i had 112% construction atom bonus damage for towers wasn't enough. i've got probably another 2 hours to go >D
What lvl in con is ur poison and kraken? ๐ฎ
55 and 51 respectively
damn nice ๐
i was wondering this one comes from
Graverobbing
its not listed in wiki
For shiny pets, double checking, all infinite star ones only need levewl 5 except squirrely level 6 to unlock all infinite star slots, right?
oh
what can i do to get more afk gains?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
think #1084911530417606656 has a whole page too on it
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
thank you
goals
Gratz!!!!
TIME FOR MAJOR DK BOOOOOSTTT
TO TOP IT OFF
wait until u have god rank 3
?how do you get god ranks?
god rank dmg multiplicative?
what are they
after all gods, u continue for god ranks
after u got all gods u can get god ranks
yeah
oh... no
why dont u start spending?
i thought................................................... it was it
i thought that was.... the end of divinity
oh no
im god rank 3 ๐
I will soon :d
.......what are the god rank upgrades
im going for god rank 4
was already pretty high on stacks, wanted to level up the bubble a bit. Also thought it'd be fun to hit 1b which would on average get me to god rank 2 since it's 4x each rank? so 200m now then 800m next
Once I have skill mastery 300 on the samplable skills, what cards do I want to equip on them?
Kinda something like this: all stat cards and the flying worm (base stat) depends on class/skill
https://i.imgur.com/oyBrugA.png
vman would/could use a chaotic efaunt in there for the skill xp
or u can swap eff for afk
That too, depends on what you're going for since after 100% effy u don't gain extra xp.
Mhm, why does it display the numbers in your ui for everyone for me it only happens if im physically on altar, not lab goat?
Also you have like nearly exactly 2x my rate ๐
god rank 2 to 3 was 2,8b now its 10,4b
doot
you focus purely on the low bubble?
I have doot, still doesnt show it like that
mine are all on altar, just 1 doing active
Oh
but i will start getting them all on skill duty
i wanna push all main skill lvls to 130-140 for bigger samples
just gotta also ofc get vman lvled up
and fishing lvl sucks
but minnig and chop is fine
yeh, fishing has been slow af xD
So that is why divinity is the new lab.
what is the last one?
somehwat, once u get goat u can be in lab to get divinity xD
10 extra level upgrades on all atom categories
Well, yes ๐
my lab lvls are over 170 on all
Is it true with doot, your characters are always in divinity?
so i dont care about lab anymore
No, Goat/Bear combo does not work for div, u have to be in lab for goat to work
But... rift 116 for 2k total levels!
haha ๐
dosnt goat work if not in lab? ddint know... i must re sample lol
say what lol 2k lvls what
how would that link to samples?
idk... i just assumed
Look at me getting king doot
i feel like in w5 i have finally reasonably caught up (multikill on big worms) and will be in a good spot for w6. But w6 is where Iโll be flying in the endgamers shadows ๐
Close enough
Bear for lab works,
Goat for inside lab to be active in div works
But (doot or ES) for bear + goat combo means yes u are in lab, but divinity won't be active unless actually in lab.
u will always be in my shadow bro
lol gz!
no i definitely am not in it right now haha.
i donโt even know what light is yet haha
keep playing and u will at least stay close to me
do u have doot?
well thats good
the systems are scaling fast tho, especially with the alchemy unlocks using atoms
but for 30% afk u have to be in lab?
im getting 500-700k atoms daily
my max character lvl is 419 or so. itโs so slow lol ๐
What does snake have to do with goat/div. Thats just for xp/points in div, not other gods.
and im at like 500-700 haha
active on bubo in last zone w5 and be level 470 within 1-2 days xD
it no does that for me ๐ฆ
my exp bubble is only 1200ish not 7000 haha
Yeh but snake and minor link bonus have no relationship to Bear/Goat combo for div points/xp
Mine was the same
Although im gonna switch to bubo soon to level the hell out of GT soon xD
i misunderstud earlier, thought u said i had to be in lab to get the afk gains
level 300 to 352 took 4h 8mins online (offline would have been 35 days)
Ah okay, nawh not that. Was just for div progress (pts/xp)
yeah lvls 300-370 are very quick for me now. but at 400 is feels disturbingly slow
400 to 475ish is about the same time as 475ish to like 490 something around that
If you want we could measure your xp rate and how long it would take ๐
Gotta be sure to max crystal rate and use active xp cards
Something like this, could remove some stats if u 1 shot them and add another active xp.
thatโs true im not using exp cards
Active xp are multi to ur xp, (not regular xp cards, those suck)
i donโt have ruby unlocked yet either, i just hit 1B minimum this week so things will start ramping up for me shortly
oh those were from cardifiers xD
I still need to unlock ruby rift too
Is not worth worrying about till you over 100b damage
at 1b do you think i can push rift 36?
why isnt the dog there for me in the first world?
u need to do some quests/levels first
this is w5 chat lol ๐
happens more than you think ๐
unless uโre in w5 and still no doggo that would be funny
Youโll want this channel then #newplayer-chat-w1๐w2โณ
Youโd be close if itโs not possible now
I think I was at 3-4b max when I did rift 36
is sailing effected by Broken Time?
Since it's a t own skill?
Which 4 towers do you recommend for this?
U can probs do like 2-3 boulders and a party
Maybe a lightning guy if u only use 2 boulder
Depends how strong ur towers are
what does my copper sample need to be considered no longer a noob
I used two boulder, one freeze and one kraken but I think the first two I mentioned were over lvl 30 in construct. Not hard as long as you have the damage and consider Hp as a resource too.
Exponentially easier with the increase In totem Hp from gaming
Goat is gonna take 2 weeks to unlock isnโt it
5 hours per 1% reroll til I can lock in 100% roll, then the grind starts ๐ฅฒ
Well as long as your increasing your gains- two weeks will be more like 5 days
Whatโs the best way to increase div gains? I have 9 chars on the altar rn each at 11 points per hour & some multipliers bringing me to I think 115 ish points per hour total
Is it just lvljng up the gods pretty much?
A 1% roll costs like 500 ๐ญ
Look at the info tab, it says sources of div point multipliers
Most are deity upgrades, a couple are artifacts
Remember that divinity is a long term skill
Ok bet so not much else I could be doing sounds like
No bubble related div points?
Yea so just leveling up gods it seems like
Not that I can remember
Gotcha thanks
A chicken wearing sunglasses
Meh. Not enough dmg
Youโre in the wrong TD, itโs after acorn assult
The tree one
Why does this say +0 percent bonus when I have 624 items in slab
If you can reach wave 50 on the ice one, youโre good for the acorn
reset map
np
all artifacts need a map reset to update the numbers when newly obtained
oops just got to w5 and accidentally dragged my ship to the cloud instead of the island, do I have to just wait 19h now? LOL
"return ship"
OH thank you 
:^)
if I'm trying to get the yellow snowflake, should I use multikill or go with drop rate cards instead?
Multikill only affects first drop
DR + farm on ES
if I want to unlock the first god asap should I be pulling everyone out of lab and putting them in divinity
Yea, you want to unlock bear ASAP, and that will solve your lab problem
Yes, do divinity until u get arctis
how does unlocking gods work? does each offering give me a chance to unlock?
mathematically is it better to do 25% or 1%? or does it matter?
is divinity level shared?
That I couldn't tell you what is better statisically. I've seen people float the strat of hitting 1% until they get a 50 or 100% offering
Divinity level is per char
thank you
first drop meaning melty cube in this case?
Yes
oh wow didnt know this
For gods i just do left until theres 100% on right
I have 2 gods left. About 6m for a 5050. Should I do that ?
Im asking here cause no one answer to it on gen and the w1 w4 channel some advice how to get millions of items without printer?
what logs should I leave out when sampling with 10 slots? Assuming tropilogs and veiny logs, but I still need to cut one
why does my second ES get faster divinity exp than my first ES? I'm getting 1/hr on first ES and 2/hr on second
Trust me, the first two will only take a couple of days, and is def worth it
do both have the same level of this talent
ah they didn't, thank you!
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should maestro have higher divinity level? or does it not matter
doesnt matter for w4 and on
cool thank you
you got it
I also just unlocked my 10th character, should I be putting a level 1 character in divinity too? ๐
Figure out your daily reset time, and just connect enough people to turn NBLB on and then pull them out after. This is assuming your daily reset is at a reasonable time
sadly my daily reset is at 2:30am for me, so not feasible haha
Started idleon while on a late night bender huh? That's rough
yeah, didn't know reset would be tied to when I started, it's unfortunate but not too upset about it, thankfully just a casual player
my reset used to be at 10pm, but lag farming caused it to slowly shift and its now at 2:00 am
I think I made a terrible decision to not wait for enough points for 100% god unlock and now it is gone 
the god offering options doesnt really matter in the expected cost
So its not that detrimental
Species epoch is account wide
Epoch applies a family wide buff based on your vmanโs skill level
Or rather, only your Vman stats matter for the % it gives, but the % it gives affects all chars
still need to have points in it when claiming souls tho
if that's what you mean since you mentioned snapshotting for critters
Yeah its doing absolutely nothing until you raise your vmanโs skill level
candies give time for worship energy
yep
using candies to level other skill gives smithing + worship indirectly
There are way better ways to spend your candy than getting charge on a char
of course, but it exists
use candies on vman to level the other skills while getting worship charge 
The big alch bubble gives a very nice charge boost, and you typically want to level every char's worship up to a certain point
So close to 2m damage
when you enhance sleeping on the job with vman does it add that percentage to you overall skilling afk percentage or replace it?
You can use them w/e, they don't just disapear into the void
All enhancements adds the new effect, not replace
would be a shit tier skill if it replaced the hands effects
is it okay to farm sandpots / crystalmobs with DK with a 1:266 chance?
the other option would be getting slow exp in the first w5 map, my dmg isnt that great yet and everyone is stuck in divinity
I would try farming your crystal cards next. They're kinda slow early on but its a huge source of your spawn chance and its definitely worth it
Farm cards with your ES first. Card drop chance, then crystal spawn chance
the thing is I want my ES to be in divinity bc he gets way more exp ๐ญ
๏ผin 266 suggests there are probably some easy crystal chance upgrades you are missing
Farm them on DK then
Its slower but its still probably better than not farming them at all
ok ty
Before ESโs talents were added, DK was no1 farmer so he is fine honestly
Genies specifically isnt even that bad of a layout for DK
And take off that awful accuracy prayer. It murders your damage SO badly
yeah I might farm genies on dk since he is my strongest char by far anyway
Use everythin, harvest chem last.
why for max cons exp/build we need to log in first by blood berserker? why not DK?
i know that log in by str classes give more exp/build but why must be bb not dk?
Because const obol works weird in the way to nerf the const exp of the active guy
So bb is used more as the decoy to suck up the โbad expโ but still offer full โactive warโ bonus
so the main reason for chosing bb is who not have cons obols?
in practically, you still active on your sub construction DK
Is it possible to activate all jewels in lab with 6 chars?
Since active bb sucks with farming
yes
oh wait, no
i thougt it lab bonuses for a second, not lab gems
Its possible to activate the relevant jewels yes
I can't seem to activate the 1.15 dmg orange gem or the 4.5% stats
You need 8 to activate all jewels, but doesnt really offer much gains
You ignore the damage jewel and also the purple cook jewel
The orange damage jewel is one that you skip
nah, we don't need those
You only need to turn on the cook jewel when using ladles
Ok cool good to know
Also is there any tips for getting higher worm hole kills or just try to get more dmg? Im stuck on rift 27.
better dmg
longer duration of the wormhole is the biggest influencer
Go to one of the small platforms down the rope to the left of where you spawn in the rift
Sounds like your book level of the wormhole is too low
It groups every mob together so your aoe stacks better. It adds a few kills to your wormhole count
small tip is you can spawn portal in these platform, small platform give your skill focus more
Other than that its just more damage
wow DK is great for that genie map
Alright thanks
jellys isnt it?
just wondering if I should change my crystal cards for active exp
I got steak and ancient steak in one chest pile 
Now I can spend 6 months going for eldritch
crystal cards are effectively more exp
any tips for getting artifact? :<
Get doot 
doot does nothing with that
claim sailing more often, upgrade shipโs speed
oh ty
doot does alot for artifact farming
Some are from bubble tho from sheepie
doot and sheepie adds lots of sailing claims
f*ck sheepie
doot does make eveything easier in this game
The post office box for sailing isn't even that great for sailing progress
Doot sheepie and gold food are all better
The box is good for damage and stats mostly
2 month of no steak sounds like you are doing something wrong than pure rng
One ship maybe lol
You're doing something very wrong if 2 months...yea
I wanna dump all 20 on fury island and go for eldritch
i send them all
But Iโve heard that actually takes months
If it's taking months, they're doing it wrong
Like chest cap of 4 or like ships not upgraded or something
Mine is like 1/2000 and I do like 200 chests a day
And not using sailing bubble + golden food on all AFK chars
Das real nice
even claiming once a day would have got you the steak by now
Iโm just missing eldritch for max books
Then I can start booking all my skilling talents to max
At once a day I could see 2 months maybe
Depending on chest cap thats like 40-50 chests per day and a .02% chance for an arti would be 1/5000. Potentially up to 100 days with those numbers
Is it worth trying to keep pushing here for 6th evolve?
Really depends on your speed and evolve chance but generally speaking if you have to ask then you're probably not ready
Also when going for T6 its better to only keep a few of the plant you're evolving and cycle the rest of them for chemicals
My garden rng is just real bad
with kitsune turn off? nope, unless you have really low growth circle (like under 5mins?)
Also yeah kitsune is a must
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Chasing T6 plants is a trap, don't bother until you get a bad snail reset
I'm too cowardly to be reset
Don't give in to the loss aversion
Getting a snail reset feels a lot worse than it actually is until you start getting to like 15+ snail level
Or you just never get reset by being the most cautious
Don't you just lose the progress you had before if you just reset
On average if you just full send it and get reset at like sub 12 snail level youll get caught back up and reach 12 sooner then if you encourage a lot and be cautious
Yeah but its not hard to get it back
I spent so long asking if I could rush w5 that I forgot to ask if I should...
what do
If your goal is to be the most efficient as a new player, rushing W5 ASAP is the answer
I got 9 in lab and my bb farming zow chow
planning on taking em out at LVL 40
LVL 40 div **
Get a divine knight and use him to push through W4
*If your goal is to get W5 ASAP of course
Some people like to chill and take their time
sounds like he is already in w5 if he's doing div
i would leave in div until goat, then go to lab
Oh, I misunderstood you as asking if you wanted to rush to W5
i rushed w5 now I'm lost
of course, your name ๐ฅฒ
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Have you unlocked rabbit god yet?
why is the number different depending on who I log on to? both chars are ES
Different stances?
maybe one has higher div gain than the other and it is snapshotting most recent? (idk tho)
I just unlocked divinity so I only have the first one
es has skill that increases all div
There's also a talent that increase div gain, but not by that much I don't think
hmm, when I tried logging into another non-ES character it also had 3/hr
(also 3 * 7 is not 18, but thatโs a separate issue ๐ )
So now that I'm in w5 I should be constantly working on upgrading all my gear?
eventually one at a time
Alr cool
Most of my characters are naked
Y
They shall remain naked until they get their troll sets
Lol
gear is like mid priority compared to other bonuses
Gear is just one of many things you need to work on really. Like if you are generating enough loose salt, getting chiozor gear and then eventually troll gear is a good path
Yeah but it's not very hard to get it right
sure blob, dont give me hope
Like I can just not go out of my way too much
Null is grey right?
Yeah
If you just got to W5, don't worry about troll gear for a while. Check out chiozor gear first if you haven't gotten
Chiozor gear is dang good for how cheap it is
Yeah I don't even have the tab unlocked lol
I'm still on dementia so it'll be a while
What island is the talent level artifact on?
not much reason to make lustre and diabolique since those armors arenโt needed for troll/magma
tbh dementia/void was enough for me for w5
I have finally got to the point where I can comfortably gte the other stuff for troll armor, and WHEW. Only have enough null salts for 1 set of armor
Troll gear is funny for newer accounts in that by the time you can make it, you can already easily make the W5 gear
Indeed
Currently (finally) resampling and I just unlocked tab 5 (last time I sampled, my skillers weren't strong enough to reach w4 skill stuff) and my current samples of w5 stuff is enough to skip straight to w5 gear as soon as I get troll / starfire tier weapons
Should I focus on pushing into w5 or back track to make chizoar armor?
Your main priority should be unlocking W5
Already unlocked
Just sitting in dementia armor though lol with the first set of weapons, the icey ones
I believe you will want to unlock the W5 task board if you haven't already
Oh true forgot about that
Beyond that, getting your loggers to maple wood
Then there is no rush to push through W5
Unlock w5 and afk divinity, take time to setup 3D samples, slowly active on ES for stuff to make 3 sets of chizoar once u have the salt. etc. For div info check pins
I have everyone sittting in lab rn to level both
You've already unlocked goat, or you have doot?
Dooter
i made magma boots before i had enough nullo to finish full troll 
So you have goat, so now you could pick one like ES and start grinding out some gear or pushing W5. Bubo will be the only important one to really reach the end of w5. Rest is just for skilling nodes and/or xp.
Why bubo ?
Cooking/farming coin on tremor worms is their specialty
Cooking ? 
But that will be a little bit off, cranium cooking = much faster alch prog
Ohhh
You won't dabble into that until you get ancient fury artifact in sailing
Or actually, the base if you already have rift slug
I forget what rift slug does lol
Ohh yeah
Where do the extra talent increases come from? One point should put me at 26 but it puts me at 31
then last skill tab, bottom right talent
It's pretty game breaking
Newer players won't be able to wrap their minds around it until a bit of gameplay
The sheep is real nice too, no doot, but still dang good
Sheep feels like what a f2p doot would have been
If lava didnโt wanna make this update crazy p2w
Haha yep, greatly hastens a lot of progression, just to a lesser agree
all sheep does is let you use 1-2 extra bubbles really
small reminder that even with doot, (or es talent for 2 gods) that Bear + Goat does not mean that you get divinity progress while not on div/lab. Still need to be in/on lab to get those div xp/points.
For newer accounts, being able to use all the bubbles at once is pretty dang useful. Don't have to do any opportunity cost planning to figure out if you want gaming, sailing, worship, construction, etc
or even do pet arena...
Don't have to worry if you forgot to equip cranium cooking...
goat simply need physical presence in lab to take effect
ive done that so many times... lol
its definitely useful, dont get me wrong
but its just not the giant bonus people seem to think it is
especially thinking something like this
the ones that arent capped are almost always equipped anyway
Only way that is true is if something in W6 is added that competes with doot, and we get more big bubbles
every single character i use has hammer on regardless, cons exp isnt useful for anyone except my squires, class exp is worthless if people are sitting in lab thanks to no doot
and all the rest of the bubbles are capped
Hello Does anyone know how I can get small material pouch for the slab if I already did the quest with all the characters and never dropped the item on the ground?
SO im soft locked :C from the slab?
when do you unlock slab?
its actually unlocked from begining
but visually in game on w5
and lot additional bonuses
where in w5? I just got here
top
ah, thank you
I have another question ๐ does Infinite star counts if i don't have the star unlocked_
im not 100% sure, but since i get random candy from star sign passive that not unlocked but infinity starred, im leaning to yes
Thx @strong nova
yes, the infinite star signs count without being unlocked, but you do not get the doubling effects from the chip unless you unlock and equip them
which one should I max out first? the left or the far right one?
priority from right to left
Also if you have multiple DK, have one focus on a single talent while the other takes care of the other talent
Are there any other items like this? Iโm about to make my 10th char soon lol would be good to know
ahh okay so one of them I can max the left one and the other the right one?
My boy pris
they dont stack
Howโs doot been treating you brotha
All family wide buff talents dont stack
those 3 are family wide?
Love it keep up the grind bro
Iโm bored div grinding until I hit goat
Then I can open my account again heh
Same breh
250 for the lowest? Whatcha mean by that
Haha gl bro may the rng gods be w you
Oh like class lvl
Bro I was thinking div lvl 250 I was like oh hell naaawwwwaaahhhh
div gets hella multi over time
It's based on your best record
when collecting souls, should I just have this card ?
i prefer with this setup #midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ message
which character do you use for collecting? do you collect on everyone? or just 1 character
1 by 1
Need those 1000 worship levels
Yeah.. same
ahh so you have this set up for every character right
Getting all towers to 50 before trying to raise my wave levels again
yea, if im not lazy
i have, but idk if its updated or not
ill take it
just want smthn on hand
eould you happen to have its second half
need those numbers soon
ty though still
yea same, 
is this optimal? I've just waiting til they are full to refine their levels are like 10, 9, 8, 7, 5, 4 ๐
its optimal and have small excess when wait to upgrade, keep green and red always 0% auto, and adjust the other after green red leveled
other than red and green is fast to level
got a quick question
How long do you wait for the ultra sonic speed leaf in the chopping mini game ?
around 30mins
think i did it at 27 or 28 minutes and it worked.
ty
Stop leveling the middle and lower salts. else you will constantly run out of salts and stuff like that gets annoying, red and green should always be upgraded.
Iโve seen 10-15 minutes
I got it when going for the vman sample, still need a second one ๐
Worse is the w3 quest stuff (Afk X h and minutes to get the quest) xD
yeah it's been a stop and go process with these orange to pink salts, I've been trying to budget my salt usage by calculating my excess salt between ranks ๐
Hey guys any news from lava 
join on gen tbh
I pray for you if you blue salt is actually 8
appreciate it
Remember, it's like a 50-50 chance of managing the achievement, since you have to wait 30mins, then click it once to get the super speed. Then the hard part, hitting it again during that, pretty much fully rng due to the speed.
50/50 chance of getting doot too
RNG AWAY
You either get him or you dont
dont worry i got 500$ to drop on this game
waiting on lava to make a move
maybe hes gonna make the odds easier
i doubt you will need more then 150 for doot
50/50 chance you were responsible for the Armenian genocide.
Lava plant detected
Damn that escalated quick
awww man come on i was only having a bit of fun why you gotta do me dirty
Non lava plant detected
i have seen alot of people with doot now tho
Workin towards lavas 2nd lambo
Anyone else from iOS having issues getting party invites?
Feels like no one sees my "LFG" unless I play on PC
hmm, my trick is creating party then leave it
Tried that 
soon as it will pop invites
U on rn? mind testing with me rq?
nah im at work
Yep, itโs been confirmed on Reddit too. Seems like it broke with the companion update
iOS canโt join or get party invites
Also read a comment saying even a quick fix will have to be reviewed by apple so itโs a low chance lava fixes it quickly. Seems like only workaround is doing it on the web or steam @fading dust
Confirmed with Mr. Bishop that its broken. You can only see iOS peeps if they play on PC
how good are these shiny pets really?
https://i.imgur.com/pJrzy8O.png
I haven't gotten 1 shiny yet. Lol
You do click the shiny tab when summoning them right? xD
I'm a bit confused at how you actually get them. Just hatching chance?
first shiny shouldnt be hard at all
Wait there's a shiny summon button!?
Yeah that button is there but I never got one am I supposed to tap on it or something
well you click the button and u see the odds change so does the title
bm doesnt change odds, only thing he has his higher power pets talent and more dmg for arena
Well I got three shinies lol
But I'm guessing they don't do anything unless they're leveled up in the fence yard for a while
Because I unlocked three of those but they still don't show up in the shiny collection?
Unlocking any shiny will instantly give you a bonus if u place it in the fenceyard
Try and focus on the shiny speed ones first, then infinite starsigns
I see thanks I put that in the front yard and close the nest and reopened it and they appear in the shiny section
And definitely thanks for the advice buddy because I didn't realize we had to constantly swap and order to get the shiny lol I feel like an idiot
placing more of the same one speeds up their leveling rate. Either way, focus on shiny speed ones itself to level 5. for gmush plank etc.
Also use IT for a good overview on timers/rank ups
Thanks!
What is the best w5 pet
What? Lol
Missing fauxory tusk for Sailing for first island, should i just keep sailing there to get it at 1.4% per trip or just explore new islands instead?
stay there, could toss 1 ship to unlock new islands though at most times
tusk is a pretty big bonus
hope youre not attempting to refer to me, i barely even belong here
ho ill send 2 ships out of 3 then
here ill ask a newbie question to settle it down, Dice obols.. i want crystals on sand castles right
sandy pots
on dk
sandy pots? could have sworn it was castles, i mean, its crystals either way
for dk sand pots give refinery mat, which not that great with vman buff but still, glass shards and statues is hella dope
Whats the order of priority in terms of speed for pop and dice?
Is it ES first for pop, then cards farming, then DK dice with crystal?
oh yeah that works
dk sand for dice yep
well im hoping it was ES first, cuz thats the route i went, my DK is slightly neglacted
es for pop
yea im hoping it is ES first cause my ES is way higher level than DK lull
155 100 for me, that w5 map is giving some good XP hoho
yea es on pop obols for sure is easier to start with
ye im lvl dk as well rn
farming cards on es as well
got 4 star giga and stache next is snelbie prob
or others idk
on a sidenote are skills bubble or dmg bubbles a bigger priority if both are pretty low? one for prints and one for pushing and farm i guess
limited liquid each day
4* cards also good point to stop as 5* takes too long?
AW... i just realized im not done with Pops, i only finished the family set, not a personal set to
yea they both have uses but i find most people neglect their first bubbles pretty hard use those mats you printing to boost first few bubbles aswell
yea ive been printing bubble 1 and farming spores for 2 thinking ill raise them daily, then spend a bit on others
Both are good. I focused on the damage ones over skill ones early on but there probably isn't a wrong answer there. You eventually are going to active AFK on a bubo and get a shit ton of liquid/day
ah guess i just skill them up and give it time, that spore cap needs for bubble 2 tho
ive killed 5 million frogs over the last 2 days -_-
Eventually you have only ridiculous things to spend your liquid on
you know tho man i dont play bubo enough for that XD
f it actually scales
it does
i legit thought grind time is 50 25 permanently
its hella nice
nope
It does scale relatively slow compared to the rest of the bubbles
So pops to silver, since a square pop is beaten by a dice, how far do i take dice? all the way up?
Each cranium cooking proc grants about 350k second of alchemy and they proc like every 10 minutes
oh i wish, i get like 2k seconds out of mine once a day
At Citringe, are you guys happy with this or would you drop canisters?
No canisters at oranges
Thanks
thanks
No fart bois either?
Also make sure you use spear or glove instead of staff
Nope
Only recently hit Lv 200+ tentacle, its madness
you only on oj bay for the rare mats??
i dont have a high enough Eye to pull that off
Nah, it is the best alchemy training in the game and pretty close to the best class XP
you are missing 10 levels somewhere
?
arctic bear or something
Atom
Nope, have atom
bruh, the void coin drops.. i'm at plat xD
I don't have doot and am not on bear because it is garbage
ahhh^ gotcha
I still prefer wurms way more over oj





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