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The only one that works with is VMAN base stat one for tab 1 base stat stuff
to get these up:
https://i.imgur.com/IKTqChU.png
youโre also forgetting about the class wide talent that buffs all talents too
So rn the only thing im missing is eldritch fury, and im not currently linked to the bear, and my levels are 265. With fury theyd be 290. With bear theyd be 301. How do you get 310? Do you just need like a lv 600 ES?
can get to lvl 245, but works up to 240 giving 13 points
so if i have sheepie then it doesnt matter which bubbles i have equipped?
Wow bubo gets some crazy KpH
since i assume they dont double
ok cool so i can put the cooler looking ones then ๐
u need the bottom right t4 talent maxed at 240 too
dont have any of those silly birthday cards dropping so i wasnt sure if it was working correctly
It is annoying to clear out everytime i lvl up in anything
Ah yeah thats what i was missing. Its only 180 rn
but 310 is like super difficult much easier to get 300
well it must be working cuz i have 3 crafts on anvil
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even tho i dont have the craft bubble equipped
Yeah I think my wiz would need to be a higher lv to get much over 304-305
coolio
with doot, you can play around wearing badgur or kattlekrux. Not like it does anything. But you still need to wear purrmep for the minor link bonus as doot specifically does not apply purrmepโs minor link
interesting
also with lvl 300s talent points become an issue
Yeah im already havin issues with points lol
oh really!? so i just run everyone with purr then??
you cant equip multiple purrmep
Wait isnt the point of doot that youre wearing all of them at once?
So i have one guy on purrmep, and 4 on kattle and 5 on badgur
Lava probably made it so to prevent applying purrmepโs minor link 10 times
Also i thought kattle and badger didnt have bonuses yet
Kattle and badgur is just fot the lulz
they are going to be so broken hopefully
And for a small chance if lava makes them a purrmep type of โonly one in familyโ god
if i already have gaming talent on first DK, then i dont need to level it up again on 2nd DK right?
Correct, highest talent counts. So typically people will have 2nd DK/ES/SB in lab on skilling preset with those talents maxed for gaming/sailing/div
So even after getting doot, you still should have someone physically using purrmep (the 2x divinity works without him tho) for the minor link
Lol probably never getting doot. Unless someone wants to trade for my 2nd slug haha
ah is that what they do, got it, i'll probably just spec my 2nd elite classes to sit in lab after i get enough levls
you have a slim better chance to trade doot for a common actually
Why?
people on tier 5 have no way to obtain missed commons
Oh true
hey guys, my EM is linked with the 3x printer gains divinity and artic for the lab's 2x printer gain. i now notice that in the printer screen they have a yellow star (which i think means only the 3x is registering) instead of the purple spiral (which they had last time i checked, signifying the 6x)
did something change about how that combo works?
I'm still missing a common ๐ฆ
Refresh map
Gold is 6x?
The printer mark can be finicky at times
But if connected properly it should be purple for 6x
I thought star was 6x?
Then again since doot my whole printer and IE has been flickering and messed up ๐คท
Blue text for lab, star for hare, purple spiral for both
changes color every other hour and IE seems to be off too
Star is 3x
Blue is 2x
And purple is 6x
Anyone else actually have that issue?
When using DK to farm active it flickers often too
We need doot first 
You should be able to trade 365 bob joe pickles for a doot lol
any updates guys#?
Everyone going to be making a trip to the airport for Dooty Free Trading
What makes it even weird is that if you take off the printer lab node when using doot, it displays blue printer text despite not having the lab bonus
So i think lava shifted the tables of โcolors to show in printerโ by one column when using doot i suppose
Its almost like it wasn't even tested
Lava would never ship Something He hasnt thoroughly tested.. 
technically lava didnt release doot. It just found its way on its own
gratz! coincidence or planned it out?
Can the afk rift kills be done with multiple characters?
Yes
you can also place the alts there before even getting to the kill quest btw
How much damage do i need on es to beat rift 44?
I'm midway W5 with 151M min damage on ES. Only just hitting up rift now because i thought it was way later game
make sure to chow it
epic second pull
Really? thats.. interesting. Can you go back to old ones?
nope
hmm
do it asap
i'm at 10
10 is fin
guess BB is coming out of lab this reset
i did mine at 32
superchow it ๐
took much much longer
superchow?
Didn'
Iโm struggling at rift 38 with 10b, so more than that
Welp i got 90b
OMFG โค๏ธ
After getting to 800m 4x i managed to set it up!!!
https://i.imgur.com/nNqiRlJ.png
grats!
Ty for posting your pic, made me attempt it too and got it! Never managed it before, ty @lost beacon ๐
Rip my snail. Lvl 8 with a good bunch of encouragement.
Rip, im already scared to attempt my lvl 6 to 7
Is this a Vman upgrade to normal chow?
Are we just booking it to 200+?
I mean, the lvl 225 is amazing af
Is max level increase by Library i mean?
Just the usual yeh, whatever your library max book is. Vman talents are not affected (except rift/mk and something) from stuff like slug, bear god, ES family.
Awesome, thank you
Off to bed GN!
gn!
Oof missing the 256 multi hurts. Anyone better in gaming than me knows how to get more out of the skill than just the rng from nugget?
starting my daily lava is missing post
We don't have a dev anymore
Nobio or Snake for Zow/Chow?
Hunt achievements if you haven't, for first MSA bonus
Sorry *superbits
I have mostly ass achievements left
Mini game related stuff
Dungeon 3 final boss and jobs
nobi
Oozie vial?
Lava is gonna drop the most ๐ฅ update out of nowhere
Nero update. Burns the game down completely
like removing companions
imagine that
Make them grindable and I'll spend every waking moment in that game to try and unlock doot/slug
yes
Does the Pandoras post box reset all characters spent boxes?
is ''Big meaty claws'' ''Quick Slap'' and ''Name i quess'' worth to upgrade? Like if i have 3000 mana with my divine knight, will it give more damage for my divine knight or only for mage?
Gold ore for the mage is easy to print. The warrior and archer bubbles are both monster mats, harder to level until Atom range. Each class obviously going to benefit from their own bubbles more than others
The buffs apply as long as you meet the requirements, but as ^ said, stronger per colour
Last time I leveled up the Name I Guess, I picked up ~87 base damage and 70m max sheet damage on Bubo. Compared to leveling up WIS bubble giving me 4 wis, 20m max damage
But yeah I'm sure the warriors saw basically no change
big meaty is level 40 and quick slap is level 34, should i just grind level to the bubbles and level them up.
or 3d print em?
grind the items for them active afk*
personally I'd leave them until you have nothing better to do
base damage is pretty weak compared to almost any other bubble
Oh righty, thanks cactus for the help and scoli! ๐
Have you greenstacked those materials?
10m items in chest, yeah
Get 10M+ to increase the lab node bonus
naaaah, in my dreams. only green stack is copper ore
Might want to work on that, it gives a massive bonus, and logs are super easy to do
With bubble levels that low, ES active farming those monsters could probably get you quite a few fast levels
so es is good for pushing and killing monsters fast?
Just make sure to upgrade the bubbles on the proper class to make it cheaper until you get the costs to 100m for Atom range. Probably not on your radar yet
ES is good for mob materials
Getting green stacks, the % damage from stamps and bubbles (and all bubbles unlocked if you haven't), %damage from cooking, and %damage from breeding will boost you a lot
my es has 15mil damage
just do more damage
Do you have vman unlocked?
yes
yes vman unlocked
thanks for asking
ES is good for active farming any drops shown on the first page of a monster card, as well as monster cards themselves. This is because monsters spawned by their portal ability have massively increased drop rates. They are worse than DK and Bubo for anything inside Rare Bags, because in almost all cases, those rare bags are present on Crystal Monsters, but Portal enemies cannot spawn Crystal Monsters
so portal still drops items?
Not only that, but crystal monsters spawned on the map aren't impacted by the ES buff
time to farm some sand castles... ๐
Truth
Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops
is there like any skill layout for ES like in bubo?
Powerful skills at the front like meteor and the chain bolt, but it doesn't have the same issues bubo has
Depends on your dps, if it's that low I'd go with
Multikill, portal, yellowlightningthing, meteor, chain, tornado
Otherwise
Multikill, portal, chain, meteor, etc...
Does divinity xp multi affect xp gained from mantra from other characters?
But not 2x xp gain
k
thanks you! ๐
Portals increase enemy spawning which leads to more crystals. I farm fine on my ES.
You'd farm better on DK
That's fine, DK is just leagues better at crystals overall
holy shit es is fast grinding these items...
With that metric, bubo is better than ES
1 level up in 5 minutes allready
Grinding bloodbones overnight on my dk gets like 400k statues lol
And enough pens to give you carpal tunnel syndrome
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where can I find rare multishroom tresure?
On mushroom island
from the shroom treasure island
5% chance per chest to get the rare mats

what should i get
Statues is god
MK will help with speed runs
If you want to do runs then max first 3 first
Cooking is also god tier
With mk talent
Oh not for speed running setup tho
Fungi meadows?
And do the 2nd preset on cooking/critter/statues
ye
And don't put 11 points in all
That's just 1 point spend with ES/arctis etc...
Nothing of the bonuses affects the later talnets (after talent 4)
Oh yeah you're right
So he spent actually 11 on all the later ones
The cooking skill is arguably the strongest skill in the game, but it's a factor of 100 weaker than the maths suggests it should be
thx for the response changing it now
alchemy would like a word
I mean, there's not an alchemy skill for vman, so not really the point
the point of what? u said that with no context lmao
lol dude the context is there
As Tony would have said if we wasn't dead: reading hard
i dont rly see how that makes cooking stronger than alchemy tho?
"The cooking skill is arguably the strongest skill in the game, but it's a factor of 100 weaker than the maths suggests it should be"
The vman cooking talent
he's talking about the skills of vman
theres no alchemy skill for vman, yea, but saying cooking is the stongest skill in the game has nothing to do with the vman talnet
He meant talent not skill
see what makes sense
But we r used to calling talents skills from other games
yea, but in this game, a skill and a talent are already both defined as different things?
so not rly
Yeah my bad, every other game in the world calls them skills
Even the game lava copied from, maple story has them named as skills ๐
Cooking
hi, I got my w2 splicer. should I farm some ghosts to prepare crafting or continue with w3 haha. but I think my dmg is a little bit lacking so my max portal at thermister is 65
just unlocked w5
If the splicer will help you get the meta w2 pets for arena/spice unlocks it's worth making one
what do i do first?
Look at pins ๐
Move everyone from lab to divinity, you wanna unlock at least the first two gods.
Also pins as AJ says
Thereโs a very comprehensive new to w5 div guide there
rodger dodger
Cooking vman make number go up
lava specifically prevent use of candy for divinity, that is why you cant use candy in w4 lab
When w5 was released, there was a time you can use candy on cooking and lab. But later lava found out you could mega progress divinity with goat + candy. Now he took away candy from cook too just because it was in the same map as the lab
Jesus this chat is dead
doot doot
Noot noot
Gaming Lootcrate is from an artifact?
i thought that was just doot?
if i put 2 same items in 3d printer with one account, does it give x2 items?
yes
How much max vial does it take for 100% statue
So I have been putting 9 chars into divinity and I am farming actively stuff with my ES but I just noticed he is specialized in divinity so should I put my ES into divinity and level a little bit with my DK?
Like around 23 mastery vials to get 100% double chance
or doesn't it make sense to start w5 without any lab perks active
Alright thanks
Yeah start div on everyone to unlock bear god asap
It lets you have your characters in lab while they do other things
I already see a 100% chance but I need to farm 200 more points for it x-x
it's like 2 days just doing nothing haha
1000% worth it imho
hm yeah might be worth it. I think I can unlock the w3 splicer later anyway
I'm about done chowing with my BB for now and therefore don't need him on nobi anymore, but I can't figure out if I want him on omni or arctis. I'm trying to get 10M krakens for the chip so having 2x 3d printer output for a bit might be required to get enough in time (might even get both rotations if I can raise my samples high enough) so arctis would allow me to stay in kitchen while doing double print, but omni has nice afk procs. My BB also have the 3rd lowest lab level so if he's on arctis he might become lowest and start to negate bubo's lab exp share, so that's a point in favour of omni. Or I could just put him on goat and throw him in lab for a while to also get divinity and forget about kitchen for a few weeks.
seems to me you should be asking if you want omni or harriep
arctis does not give you lab levels
Ah, forgot about harriep, that would definetly get me enough krakens for both omega chip rotations.
harriet is good if you keep 1 spot for copper on your BB as well. more atoms
So this will be my plan, put him on snake, take sample (Just got some massive skill improvements from cooking and can upgrade my tool) then put him on harriep and stick him in lab until I have 20M krakens.
Go to 30 mil to keep gstack after vhips
are you only gonna resample on him?
Yes
then you could put goat god on all your other characters during the resampling and equip the passive bonus alchemy bubble
it will boost your BB afk gain by a ton as well
of course, you might want to wait to have x2 unlink charges, otherwise youll be stuck with x9 goats for one week lol
Haven't used any charges this week, so I assume I have 2 charges. And my weekly reset is on wednesdays so should be fine
cooking barb on hare can run to the lab just before using printer brr for a 6x printing
is it me, after latest patch I dont enjoy the game anymore. before I could spent hours, now it feels like a job...
Probably realised the game is basically dead and there's nothing said from lava
cant argue with a feeling you have tho game didnt changed much still gotta do the same daily stuff + farm whatever you are farming
probaly, how someone can destroy his game in 1 day.....
maybe its also because w5 isnt finished either. Before I wanted to get through w4 as goal. W5 is kinda boring and pointless to get further in.
well getting to sock really help^to boost stamps cause of moneyyyy $$ and is a great place to lvl up character
lost of motivation when you realise a lot of the future updates will be like the last one
also, competing has lost its fun
this could very well be the last one lmao
anyway, I gonna leave the game for a week, Deciding if I getting back ever with this crap update and silence
any1 down to help with this? 
what world
omw
Just woke up so thought world 2 when i saw what world ๐
i thi nk i need to say a something ?
๐ thought it was a 1 shot kill i guess its only killing real noob
hey is there any achievement or smth i can get with this before turning them in? i believe selling 69 to an npc gives a achiev but is there anything else? :) thx
sure you don't want to keep going till you greenstack? I'm nean you're almost there.
Only 9997868 left to go. You're basically half way
your persuasion tactics scare me bro
good idea :3
i know this aint a lot to most people but since i usually don't stack gems for so long i didn't want to miss out of anything :D
I mean I use them as soon as I get them
I did the 69 gems sale thing the one time with a stack from an event. After that I use every single one I get
Alright :P
wonder if greenstack those would turn them green XD
yo dont give him ideas 
salt is a waiting game, either you refine it early or wait for rank up if you're able to work with the higher required mats
i need 4 levels to get tentacleye to 200
which is the last two upgrades in salt lick but its salt waiting room
im also thinking ES family bonus but idk if its easy to get 4 levels with that
the elephant god can give refinery progress
Whatโs the chart for sustainable refinery at lower rank levels?
@sleek fulcrum
Thank you!
Probably not
That seems mid
Best captains only have better max values. The min values are the same
for ES leveling do i use choco chip or are crystals gonna slow me down?
no. but the super bits bonus negates it xDDD otugh its not worth to just get 1/5 of the bonus
I know doot is very strong but. What makes you think he does that? Doot does not interact with prayers at all.
can i start alchemy now? :o
Best class to farm pearls? or any rare mat for that matter, is it still ES?
you hsould have started way before but yeah now you can push it to new heigths xDD
I thought since clammie is such a flat map, maybe dk could be better
ES bonus ends up being much stronger,
DK bonus is so strong because it affects every mob in the map
ES bonus is stronger cuase it only affects the portal mobs
Yo whats the matter with all these guys in game saying ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ all the time?
DK would still get a really large ammount of pearls but in the long run ES would outpace him
Afaik its the censor for bad words
the rule of thumb most of us use is this, if the drop is in the monster card ES is better, if the drop is in the crystal mob card DK is king
is there a way to get some drops to not drop from monsters? Like stamps,
So there's guys just swearing and insulting others? I see this everyday
filters, but stamp will stop droping once you turn them in or turn the quest they are needed for
crystaling stamp keeps dropping and my inv is always full of that
this stamp has allready turned in
you got a quest needing it then
hmm
gigafrog area iirc
In the bottom left corner is the npc
Hey quick wording confirmation.
Gaming Mutation says, "Plants can evolve up to 5 times"
That means there's 5 stages or it evolves 5 times creating 6 total stages?
Basically am I missing one here and didn't realize it, or is just a that words are hard?
thank you everyone!
i believe 5 stage, you can unlock more with the superbits
yeah I have the first super bits one. Working on the second.
The wording just messed me up.
yeah that wording definatly is not clear
I never really "pushed" for getting higher evolutions. Just kinda stumbled into what I have. But I've been stuck trying to get conifer for a month. Over 200 attempts at 2% without it.
t6 plants will take you a long time and honestly are best done when you are not pushign for anyting bits wise
cause it will take a few weeks or even months to get them all even with kitsune
but based on pictures above I can't even get them right?
I think now is a good time to do t6 plants for me then? My snail just dieded
Thats what im doing since snail reset
Imo completely resetting snail is pretty harsh.
Snail is Dark Souls of Idleon
?
In Dark Souls every time you die you go back and lose everything and have to go reget it. If you die before you get it you lose it all
I dont see the comparison. This would imply that you have a chance to save the snail level after the upgrade fails and downgrade is rolled
hey fellas, obols question
Pops and dice
what can obols like chopping or trapping roll? can they roll extra power?
Yes but only at higher rarity. Wiki has a good chart
ah ffs
i really dont want to roll higher rarity..... fragment farming can suck me off lmao
thanks tho
Its not that necessary. Maybe top of endgame it can become relevant but isn't really worth it before
yeah i cant see it being worth it till i can get hundreds of frags a min
At a certain point my blue stat obols had a bigger impact on my chopping efficiency than the skill obols did. It was around the same time that I stopped wearing % skill efficiency gear because magma with stats made a higher impact
Is there a superchow checklist somewhere? Seeing as damage doesn't boost my kph (i'm far from MK) but all stats% does, i'm sure there are many non obvious boosts (i'm trying to superchow rift)
if you aren't able to get Multikill on an enemy, then the max KPH is limited by their respawn rate. The only things I know that can up your KPH at that point are things that up your kills per kill, (like barb decimator, kpk green bubble, etc), things that up respawn rate, like the arena necklace, and your afk gains %
the talent that gives base kills per 250 str is what is giving you kills
for now, no, once you open the super bit for it you will be able to, same for the t7 plants that are latter on
https://impasta_e.idleonefficiency.com/
my IE needs sum help
can anyone?
in that scenario with no multikill you can throw on green bubble, and prayer fibers of absense iirc? -dmg +kills
yeah just checking because of the wording. I have the first super bit opened. Working on second.
yeah the wording makes it seem like the the evolutions are after the first base plant, but the game also counts the first plant as the 1st evo
Good idea, i'm always ignoring this bubble because of MK but in this scenario it might be great!
wait rift mobs count for chow stacks?
I just unlocked atom thing, how long does it take to make the first atom? I don't see a time counter etc
All rift levels count as 1 mob, so you can do it whenever
Every 10M resource in excess that you have turn into 1 atom.
Ohhh interesting. Is there a way to go to previous level so they don't have absurd hp ๐ฅฒ
atoms are made after you reach your stack limit of a certain resource for ever10m resources extra that are generated
Within a few seconds yeah
Unfortunately, no ๐
I'm suffering from this problem
Does it go into the bank or something? i've got a few 20m stacks that are still here
Also it will consume anything above your set limit and give you decimals of atoms also. So if your limit is set to 10m, and you have 12m, it will consume down to 10m and give you 0.2 atoms.
At least it seems possible to maxout kph (without multikill) even on high xp mobs, mine have 500B health while my BB only has 10B and it's maxed out for damage/talens
it works on map refresh
Maybe reload the map
if you havent
hi, what does that mean? i can have only grow up to tier 4? how can i rise that cap
no dice, weird. I'll wai till later
Superbits
That means there will be 4 evolutions able to be grown. They'll be displayed on your log. The first stage counts as evolution number 1.
The 5th stage is unlocked in superbits purchase number 2.
Just to make sure, is the collider turned on?
hah yes
Lol ya never know
turned it off/on a few times and Ihave a few 20m stacks in the bank
copper, oak logs etc
Maybe a cloudsave would help
Is there a bug with Harriep? I re-sampled yesterday and now when I go to the 3D prints tab, the characters with Harriep linked will have their numbers flash where the harriep bonus keeps appearing and disappearing like the game keeps forgetting they have it equipped and then remembering again
Some new things need that
Thats just a visual thing, you should be getting the correct values
Okay cool
I would check IE to be sure
Thanks. Will do!
I think i saw someone say it had to do with dk? Who knows tho
That sounds very very wrong
It was about the time I got my mage talent for extra % wisdom from equipment up to 265. Now that it's at 290 the gap was even larger this weekend when I resampled logs
you are doing something very very wrong if stat obols are better for your samples than skilling obols
I really hope you didn't trash your skilling obols
Maybe I am. Or maybe it's the tab 4 talent at 290 that increases my skill efficiency more based on base stat.
Plus Vman increases the base wisdom on that sampler by 400 and increasing the max wisdom talent above 999 using same vman skill.
How much wisdom you got? My 25k wis skilling setup is literally better for me with skilling obols rather than tiny puny stat obols
- Maybe my skilling obols aren't good enough. They don't have secondary stat on them. Just regular silver with the 2 chopping power. My blues are +8 wisdom. Plus whatever the obol bonus to wisdom from that talent gives. Not sure if that obol stat bonus is added to from any other multipliers
Try rerolling your silver ones to +3 wis
I just did a bunch of restacking. I didnt add all my gear and total rechop set. Just changed talents and cards and switched some obols around. and it looks like the silver chop obols with +2 wisdom make a huge improvement compared to the one with no wisdom at all. It's a difference between 6735m and 6780m efficiency
which puts it above what the platinum wisdom obol does.
another weird one I noticed resampling this weekend was with the viking horns for mining. It says it gives 10% bonus mining efficiency. The hat of hats (from idle skilling) says it gives 6% to all efficiency and has less STR than the viking horns. However, the hat of hats gave 30m more efficiency than the viking horns, despite 4% less misc bonus and less STR. Makes me wonder if individual efficiencies are calculated differently than all efficiency
decent for 1B? w1?
138.50 hrs, 5.77 days. (assuming from zero, but 4.4 days if you're at 100m already).
seems decent. Don't know how much better you can get without already getting eclipse stacks
seems a little low on the afk gain rate
one is Eldrich and one is not even acient...lol
Happened to me too. I got eldritch opera mask before ancient socrates
anyone got that "how to active bubo" guide? Forgot which abilities i should and shoud not be using
or this
ah yes, ty
Finally!!!!!!!!!
nice
Hey guys, what lvl did y'all stop using kitsune? Or is it always better (if you play more active)?
Someone was telling me they got their regrowth down to a minute or two without kitsune, which seems impossible atm
not really worth it unless your trying to unlock plants for the bonus, or level shell or something? in general it should be off unless you really enjoy micro-ing your garden
mine is at >3 minutes with kitsune. Without? not a shot
finally 1B dmg on vman :<
also micro-ing garden wont really pay off, becuse most of the big jumps in bits come from external bonuses, so whether you play sloppy or not in garden has little effect long term
I see.. yeah trying to unlock that last plant so maybe i'll keep it on for the time being
err not a tier, but the chem plant
I'm told that's when you start to see big bits come in, but at 0.1-1% chances, it's brutal lol
Wondering what my best bet is - do i just slowly but surely save for snail?
just spam it a lot, its diminishing returns if you let it build up
that's true
i was getting about 200b green a day by the time i decided to get snail
i see.. yeah i'm sitting at maybe 0.5b a day if i'm lucky atm
so...no dont wait 1200 days for snail
How to link 2 divine beasts? It's said that mage jobs can only do one job.
your best investment is the sprout value one
yeah gotcha i'll keep dumping into that
appreciate it
anyone got tips for getting my bubo to 200% crit? https://tamokira.idleonefficiency.com/
no worries, its a percentage multiplier, so that bonus always stays relavant, its something like *1.05 a level
presuambly same with the shell bonus?
i just got a collosal food pouch recipe but i dont even have tab 4....
the shell is a diminishing return
oh is it? seems to stay at 1% per rank (multiplied by whatever lvl the shell is) - think i'm getting 17% per level atm
Just that if it's additive, i can see it being negligible
but upgrading it is diminishing as 10->11 is better than 100-> 101 same for leveling it
Thats true for almost every single bonus in the game though
yeah.. i suppose I could do the math, but not sure it's worth the mental strain to find out where they cross lol
yeah but in this context we just discussed one that isnt, so felt it worth specifying
How to link 2 divine beasts? It's said that mage jobs can only do one job.
The Elemental Sorcerer has a 'talent' that lets you link to a second divine god
You add points to the talent, and it will tell you which god it's linked to. Just make sure it's a different god than the one it's linked to via divination
are you asking about the gods on ES?
Es has a talent for that
yes
which skill
as others say above, it depends on the ES talents level. adding points to it changes the god, it tells you which god in the talents description. you can unlevel it by standing next to the elephant god
that ^
To add to gdog's response, de-leveling it will give you back your talent points
thx bro
beat rift 44 with about 170b dmg, ruby card here I come!
170b? oh boy, i got a long way ahead of me hahaha
was that overkill for rift 44? or can it be done sooner
It can be done at about 120b
dang, sitting at like 2b dmg atm. wonder what's causing such a big disparity
no doot
Is that including mega crit? or the # that shows on stat screen?
nobody includes mega crit
120b on the stat screen
sheet damage is your sheet damage
stat screen shows about 170b
Gotcha, thx fellas
Just tried rift 44 with 40b, can confirm need way more.
I did mine at 130b and it took a few attempts to actually get it
whats roft 44
rift
60 portal kills on ES
jesus christ 40b isnt enough is mental
I got to 36 kills so not nearly enough lol
im only at like max 10b myself
wtffffff
try do it at a small platform?
That was a small platform.
then just more dmg from everywhere. my greenstack almost doubled when preparing
Yup just gotta flood mage bubbles with all of my resources for a week or two and I'll be there.
This used to be around 55
finally got around to finishing rift 41 on someone else
i got to rift 16, idk what the next rift bonus is is it worth going for rn cuz it needs me to invest into SB more
what does eclipse skull do
5% damage per skull , work how like bit per archivement 1.05^ skull
oh damn it gives damage
Huh, I was always told it adds with itself
i dont think im anywhere close to getting those done though so ill chill on it for now
It does add with itself
its lava code... so you know its possible it says something and does something else
I only have 1b gmush so just get a flat 5% 
ive been trapped in the gaming section for an hour now, pls help 
why dont we have a button to skip chemicals
WELL next update will be harvest all but chemical battle pass requirement 
only if lava still working on idleon
I just started farming on w5 for the first time and levels up 10 times in like 6 hours
Him being silent doesn't mean he's not still working on idleon
whats the best class to pass the lava skull rift
Do i need level 1501 to activate this?
Can anyone explain what the gold nuggets do in gaming?
Just unlocked the shovel, got a x8.67 gold nugget as my highest
its a bit multiplier
Flat bit multiplier based on your highest nugg
Ahh ok
@tacit tulip I restarted the game twice figured it would have helped. Maybe jjust needs a bit of time
Thanks guys
You could just be right on it being 1501
Rounding 
That's what you get for upgrading 1499.6 buildings
damn my level 39.5 boulder
Hahaha sounds about right
Do you guys keep the pets in fence yard for Infinite Constellations once they are all maxed out for future content? Or should I take them out and replace with other pets now?
should i keep leveling the atom one or is the star talent useful
i dont have atom collider unlocked yet
Work on other things tbh
You don't need atom cost reduction if you can't even use atoms yet
Max your sailing loot pile
Thanks Sakori
i got some of the gem shop upgrades do i still need to?
More chests is always useful
more storage space is more gains
Its just storage but once again if you can't even use atoms yet then you don't gain anything from the atom merit
i check sailing twice a day
Ok, you've triggered an alert, are you using the SB sailing talent? ๐
pog
Say you have max 20 space, and use the talent. Your boats will do laps but you'll end up with 19 chests, total
How many chests can you store currently
If you don't use the talent, they'll bring back 20 chests, and then do another lap and hold one more chest per boat
So with 10 boats, 3 laps would you get 20+10 chests = 30 chests
what should i go for now?
should i get the last ones ancient?
how can i see
these are my talents
and i got two of these
Just eldritch everything 
stab this, long term it'll help a lot
yeah but im wondering in wich order
Id do missing ancients
Socrates is good and you'll get the achievement for bit multi too
Other option I would consider is the gaming eldritches and then missing ancients
Do you always have the same amount of chests when you check ?
If i have those sailing talents on my skilling set and i am currently fighting with sb will it still benefit sailing or do i have to have them active ?
i check it in the morning when i wake up and at night before i sleep
i never had it fill up except the one time i forgot to switch to skilling build which hurt
Well
Then you definitely want more loot spaces ๐
30 is cap
To what world you send your boats/how long do they take?
It's a slow skill, particularly at the start and the end
If I see it right your loot pile is "full" like ever 3 hours maybe
So yea you need to put those achievement points to loot pile ๐
Don't put boats on 3hr+ island if you're checking regularly too, nvm didn't see previous message
that's because of that sb talent I told you about
it makes them keep going even when full, resulting in you actually getting less chests
how does the lava skulls work
ohhhh
It's only really worth it on a higher level/when you go off for a longer time
i leveled it cuz i saw the passive chest loot
yeah, it's a trap talent 
so should i reset talents and keep it 0
I have some chars with 20h afk sometimes and due to doot/god boost I can get 20-40h sail time
For that amount of overtime the talent is worth it ๐
it's actually good if you do really short (1h) or really long (20+) claims
and i should be checking in every 3 hours then
but that inbetween it's worse
For maximum efficiency
damn that makes alot of sense now
ive been claiming 3hours worth of sailing only every day
There used to be a nice trick to sailing but sadly lava fixed that ๐ฆ
yeah i saw that in the videos
You'll get more chests than you think, too
with 6 capacity and 7 boats, you'll have your 6 stored chests, and your boats will wait with 1 more chest each at the docks
ancient artifacts, can you only get them from the same island the original artifact is from?
so you'll get up to 13 chests on a max claim
finally gonna try getting the last artifact today ๐
and importantly, upgrade the last 2 boats
Good luck
so i'm new to sucking less, how do you handle stacks of 1050M and the printer not working anymore?
by not working you mean turned off ?
no i mean it never goes past 1050M
all above 1050 is tranformed into atom automaticly
so if i turn off colider for a bit it'll get bigger than 1050M in theory?
not that i'd want to if that's what's going on
you will get atoms without atom collider if you go beyond
just made it to world 5. And Im quite confused. Seing as I have got doot, I assume I must do divinity things asap. I just remove all my chars from lab and maps and put everyone on divinity with skill preset? thats it for now?
there's actually a new pin that's a "so you're new to W5" advice lesson
pmuch, check on sailing and gaming every so often
and yeah that's what it boils down to, getting to w5 means a divinity break for all characters in essense
there are some alch bubbles that help, and with doot, they will all still count as being in the lab too so you don't have to give that up
that doot bonus for being in lab, must I not unlock that in divinity first?
I assume he only gives bonuses you actually earned first
You might be a good person to tell us actually
i thought he gave all bonuses regardless, easy enough to test, stick everyone on divinity and see if your lab is still lit up
will do
do any of your guys have a blue power symbol next to them in lab? That's the second gods effect
means they're in lab while not actually present in lab
I removed the X guy from lab just now. things went dark
like 7 different people confirmed you gotta unlock gods firsrt
usually in w4 chat though 
well those 7 different people weren't on when i was on, so i'm new to this and learning too ๐
all gods or just a single god
i dont know really
some people dont even have lab people active when having doot and arctis
yeah, which is why melvic is a good chance to test - see what happens once he unlocks snek
did 7 people not tell you already? sry bro i'm tryin to be silly not a troll hope i dont make you mad
mostly it was just for confirming whatever it works pre w5 ๐ค
you dont gain info in idleon by testing stuff pff, your meant to just spam the forum till you get optimal strats /s
doot gave me nothing pre w5, and nothing yet as of entering W5
i heard you get best xp that way, checks out
uhm...i know game can froze but wtf is this?
that happens to me when I dont close the game for 10+ hours
its a white square, thanks for asking
harder froze
a flashbang
If nothing else you're in for an adventure. The doot bonus for all gods is insane for account progression.
Only thing that might slow you down is you'll still need to level your lab up long term
do I only get 1 div per hour regardless of my talent allocations?
for NOW, but not for long
ES can give bonuses to it, and there's other gains to be had (sailing mostly)
maybe its what i deserve for using white theme discord
cheers everyone
youll get to 100,000/hr if not more
if you use white theme its not a flashbang
doot or not, go all in on div when hitting w5, but as a special case cuz you have doot, go all in. basically go all in for now.
im starting to think that reaching end of w5 may be the end of the game anyway
currently yeah, there is no w5 boss yet, future updates for that
its the future updates bit im questioning
end of world 5 is far from endgame ahah
its the end of "content" for now aka endgame.
what about rift
"endgamers" make up their own silly goals for funzies, that's different
does this bubble cap?
endgame is the most gatekeepered word on here, prepare yourself
what about it
way harder to passe rift 50 than end of w5 ahah
is there something I need to unlock to be able to use atoms on bubbles?
the cost is greater than 100m, but don't see an option
Does Maestro abilities work for Divinity?
well if you didnt pass rift you didnt pass available content
yeah its on the atom machine, i forget which rank, check wiki
kk ty
It's a collider upgrade specifically
okay, why is this not in the tool tips or anything ? or am i just blind lol
its doesnt specify
poor tool tip communication basically i think
like happy dude literally says "all skills"
Not blind - Mman was added during world 3. World 4/5 skills don't work with it as they were added later but it aint specified ๐
yeah yeah and it MEANT all skills when it came out, but not anymore heh
it seems the intent was initially for it to be all skills, but when w4 got added this dint really make sense
It would have worked with cooking, but cooking is terrible anyway
lab too I guess, mostly breeding, gaming and sailing it's not viable for
w4 had the first "everyone shares exp" skill for breeding which makes no sense for right hand/left hand
gaming and sailing get to decent level ranges
I like how breeding specifically says its shared between characters, but w5 skills don't 
eh, just ignore the part that makes it not make sense and join us all in the dark side
way ahead of you

thanks for funding a bad decsion, real proud of you
my maestro is neglected cuz he do nuffin
what if i was RNG carried 
im 99.5% sure you were not
i feel so sorry for people that got doot from rng, they look like such assholes right now and did nothing wrong
tbh i wish i got rng carried, but sadly im a gacha addict
honkai and genshin are my bane
omg that's hilarious
i dont know if you need to be RICH to get doot, unless youre like super fricken unlucky.
which shouldn't be a possible outcome
the lack of a pity system is seriously BM
Any outcome is possible when left up to rng
you know, when you say lol but irl you actually made noises out loud???
i wouldnt say rich, but its like $300 average or somehting, which seems insane to pay for a game bonus
The average to get it is like $300. No way in hell most of us are rolling on those odds
ima be honest, i didnt even have div when i got doot. i just wanted to big boi as follower 
so either you need to be a gambling addict, or rich enough that $300 is basically zero to you
it was like $220 for me, most people ive talked to have been low to mid 200's
my rich uncle wont turn on the AC in the summer because "he's paying for a damn pool, go cool off in there" so sometimes i think rich people get rich because they know that $300 != 0
maybe he just wants you out the house XD
finaly got lucky with NBLB
oh i don't go over there, he's clearly an asshole
i had a major issue with "partying" so spending $200 is still better than what gaming distracts me from lol
we talking "coca-cola" here?
got to atom range
ok i DO agree with this logic for sure. i think of it differently like if a game entertains me for the length of a movie, i don't mind spending some $$$ on it
yessir lol $300-400 a week, sometimes more lol
but yeah everyone has their own unit of measure and i think it's all valid
ouch, glad you got off it
just on new years alone the one year i spent $1,300 between a $600 bar tab and then the rest on ya know 
The rest on doot
on ya lol
my life has done a 180 so $200 on a doot may be a waste of money, but its enough to keep me kinda locked on the game to actually make use of the dooter
700$ for doot and then a 600$ bar tab to forget about how much you spent on doot 
i didnt even know what idleon was back then lol
and remember apparently you're gonna be able to trade the shit in the future so you can do it again and again
i actually messed up before i got doot. I bought two of the gem packs thinking i didnt buy one yet
so i have 6.7k gems just sitting there wasted
can i be the first to say, fuck off (jk)
moar doots then
so uhm. Does me having dot mean that I miss out on an entire game mechanic? I dont need to progress divinity, I just get everything for free? Im not sure thats a good deal
anyone else unable to connect to idleon rn?
Doot isn't active until characters are level 2 Div. plus you still wanna unlock them to level blessing
SOME (i forget which) of the bonuses are capped based on div level iirc
which is better?
so you still wanna lvl them up, it's the LINKING that doot does for ya that's amazing
try turning it idleoff then idleon again
I've had Doot since fairly early, and the doot bonus was never active until i had div lvl 2
so idk where people got that even fresh accounts with doot had links lol
i LOVE THAT SHOW
I seen all episodes 8 or 9 times, so I second that
anger and misinformation? does this surprise you?
Lmao that actually did work thanks guys ๐
"My friend got it and said he has the buffs!!!!!!"
Ah sweet January snow
0118 999 881 999 119 725โฆ3
there is an android easter egg if you type that into google dialer
you ever had turbo, its a drink that compliments it very well
ยฝ pitcher of beer, smirnoff ice(or a vex of your choice), two shots of vodka and a can of redbull
tastes like candy, wicked hangovers though 
Hey, can someone tell me please, is the style Mantra ( Where all characters should give 1 divinity exp per hour to all characters ) bugged or something? I mean if I have 8 characters on mantra shouldn't I get 8 exp per hour on each character? Or am I getting this wrong?
like if you tell google assistant "lumos" or "nox" it turns your flashlight on/off
sounds right, are you maybe confusing exp and divinity points?
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
Jesus that sounds like octane. I will have 2 please
It works, just doesnโt read on the individual
it tastes like candy, just drink water inbetween and make sure you use light beer otherwise you gonna be sick(dont use draft, draft is nasty) 
Thank you
hey, take it from an old person, hangovers get boring when they're 3 days long
just save ur money for doot instead
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ive only had one actually bad hangover, it was after my sisters wedding. About 12 rum and cokes, and 9 tequila shots later. Was only 18 and it was my first time really getting drunk. One and only time ive yacked the day after 
weird that i read that as "doot flute" even though its clearly not
best map for bubo CC farm? about to unlock oj bay or should I just be farming w1 crystals
idont think any patches got pushed, my steam normally does a little updating thing when that happens
I'm playing BDO again 
there was definitely a patch at one point, cause doot bricked peoples games that didnt have divinity unlocked
i got doot after that, but not by much. and saw people claiming they had the buffs before w5 even though i didnt 
should have left it in and just called it the curse of doot, valuable moral to the tale
there's people with doot that have the free pet untradable right under it 
i think it was named the dude that reported his account being bricked lol
the fran patch ?
yeah haha, he was the dude who got bricked
so. Does it matter if Im online or not now? Same bonus? and I cant play any char so
nah im pretty sure lava put out a patch like right away
Oh you're going all in eh?
You won't get div points active
Divinity is like lab and cookng - Only gives exp/rewards in AFK
thats what the pin says to do
honestly with doot you might as well
it might not go up if you sit with that screen open, so yeah close out or take one guy off to play active on
I personally did 1/9
time for d4 or someth8ing for an hour then
I assume Iget lev 2 in one hour or something, so we will see
IIRC, level 2 divinity is 5 exp or something and you only get 1 exp per hour
that will probbly take about 5 hours or so
am i just not able to finish treasure hunt 3 on my BB because i cant wear the feral leathering?
once you hit level 2 div, i think you wanna put your character in lab if you have doot ?
yeah lava was a troll with that one
i dont have the hunt on other characters though?
stage 3 should be active on the others
but you have to do all the earlier steps again
not stage 1/2
when i talk to the pig on other characters it doesnt work though
with Goharut, if its active do the div gains show in the afk window too or nah ?
if you can afford a couple of class swap tokens you could probably do it
nah im good lmao, dont think thats worth 1k gems or whatever
i mean its joke advice, but it wouldnt work even it tried? @paper sail
did you do stage 2 in the same session? Wonder if it doesn't sync up immediately - might be worth doing a cloud save to see if you get the quest on the others. This is a really common issue so it should work
oh right, i dumbed that up
Forever in the missing-slab list
Imagine not dropping the thing he explicitly told you in the tooltip not to drop
Yeah he was supposed to have fixed it
Have you touched the Slab on your Maestro?
Who knows what stupid requirement he added in to trigger it
is there a perferred spot to farm money with BC ?
Not everyone kept their Jman trophy after getting the Maestro trophy
oh really?
ik
just get another mman or vman
Did touching Slab with Vman actually credit the peanut to you?
Trying for t5 tree. Do i log first?
I've seen some people with the Vman nameplate attached to a ES or SB for big juicy MK
so im looking at slab, and i only have bag A slabbed
im in trouble
Have fun
is it too early to start auctioning off my sheepies to try and get a damn ram, slug, or doot
i defintely have the quests for bags B and C done on all ten, one char hasn't done bags for D-F
Is trading out ?
Then its too early
but u can only trade guys u spend money on sadly
uhm...each 1m gmush kill give us dmg and money right? or just money?
each 1 mil gives money, if you farm 100m and have rift 38 done, you get an eclipse skull
1 billion
sorry, 1000 million, yes
and eclipse skulls are a pure 5% damage multi, so the best damage increaser there is
1,000,000,000 ones
The base dmg alch bubbles have better potential 
Is the a multikill guide? Am dumb
That's regular dozens.
It's 76,923,076.923076 baker's dozenses
Truth
That's a very pretty repeating number too - Love that
some people say "eh it's 6 of one, half dozen of another" when comparing equal things, i like to say "6 1/2 of one, half a baker's dozen of another" just to be a constipator
I buy it.
i kept my treasure hunt junk to be a hoarder, didn't know it'd actually matter someday... but i dont have noob hats even though you can technically get them to drop now i haven't farmed them
still nothing from lava?....
yeah he made a small announcement, he said "trollergod stop asking"
oh look at you, Sir "I'm part of the smart 96% of the world" blah blah
im just here in the UK where we like "why not just randomly mix both systems"
and your recipies omg
add 100grams of sugar to an ounce of flour and a spoon of oil, whats unclear about that?
i can't make a cake that calls for things by weight instead of measuring cups, and put it on "gas 5" or something? wtf temp is that, give it to me in degrees, I dont care if it's F or C just give me a NUMBER
hey im tryna work out some stats on behalf of the pet system, ect. I was woundering guys if any of you had claimed your new pet this week and if so, what pet did you get and did you already own that pet?
gas 5 is normally max if that helps
i got bloque both times, thanks for reminding me
first pet - sheep - no i didn't own that pet before. no second pet yet cuz i pouted when the system came out like a lot of people but then i came back cuz addicted
you mean like we do here
ok what do you mean second free pet this week ?
lol never realised you were our fellow borther and sisters of absurd units, could equally say UK at the top
he means it sthe second week
gathered ok ty, i seem to have proof on quite a few people getting pets they didnt alreayd own via the freebie pet
How do I get to this screen?
i married a cantadian for a while, he was very nice even when we were done being married
click "unlick" while sitting on the alter
protip: dont lick the alter
Do I get powers
it tastes like elephant a bit but yeah you get powers
Is a joke lol
unlink everyone you want before clicking the big unlink button, its not per charcter
yeah the powers was related to the "licking the altar" part
Ye I saw that so that's why I was scared to only do it on one char
That sounds like a really cool power
Licking the altars rn
click several chars, a little chain thing appears next to them, then click the final button, the UI confused me at first
how can you solve the world's problems with mouthorea?
9out of 10 dentists hate them
ok now i'm putting archer on
Does a .5 chance of doot with a 2X bonus food count as a 1% for doot?
hate the world's problems?
is doot food? i dont understand
The more you spend the higher chance you get if unlocking
the chance displayed is what you get, bonus already applied
- yes when i opened in browser, and 2. it's archer, i have most of it memorized except for the most recent few seasons
base doot is like 0.28 or something
you know i'm not actually too upset with sheepie to be honest, yeah doot is great but i'm always effing up my alchemy bubbles so now i have a free pass to not worry about that ever again
there really is
yeah sheepie is probably the "best" pet without it being completely ridiculous
The alchemy bubble one is actually dope, all bubble switching got to be a bit much
hey so div UI shows 0 divinity per character on everyone. but they're in lab which should count for being on div too
is this just another code hiccup or is something wrong
i've been lvling up exp bubble like a good lil player of course, but in the last few days i've been smashing all the big ons
If nothing else I get massive gains as I was too lazy to use giant bubble
i got ocd about giant bubble, then didn't even use that character as active
UI isnt great, go by the exp bar/ div number when you log on that char
You'll still get your gains as long as you're linked to the goat and in lab
The div rock only shows divinity for people on the rock for whatever reason
confirm they are actually connected to that god that makes being in lab count for divinitity? or did ya forget that bit?
good coding is the reason
ur right i forgot that
okay yeah just swapped chars, got gains we good
tyty
You still have to be in lab for the bear/goat combo, doesn't work if you're out of lab
man this chat is cracking me tf up today ๐
level 2 div
and swapping to a level 1 character disables everything 
yeah i just left all 10 on overnight
still wanna unlock gods for blessings
so when youre on a level 2 char, lab is enabled on everyone
but when you swap to a level 1 theyre all off 
kinda respect the spaghetti hustle though
Instead of checking if you've reached w5, just check div lv.2 which guarantees w5 with no extra logic ๐
prolly a panic fix after the dude who bricked his game getting doot lol

Which of these do I 220 first 
neither?
Wait thatโs actually how he stops doot from functioning prior to w5? 
But I've done it with everything else, these are the only 2 left
id recommend so many other abilities to 220
ohhhhhhh
fr??
Yea
how long you been after that eldrich jesus
I am still waiting on the eldrich 
Ohhh true
You only put 1 point in flag anyway, max coins because that increases skill active time
are the 200/225 bonuses any good on vman?
If you must choose, i'd say the coins. They'll help with mob respawn for more xp and not getting a drought
Something happened?
200 is green tubes on bubonic conjurer. It makes it apply to all skill exp not just lab exp. It's ok I suppose. At that point it's worth it so long as your vman is well ahead of everyone on experience in the important skills.
225 is knightly discipline. Makes divine knight's knight statue last an extra 20 seconds longer. Very helpful. However you have to pay attention to your current skill max. Because if it puts you in an overlap, you have to respec NVM. Thinking of orb not statue. You can have 2 statues
Where can I find the maccie constellation
It's on the waterfall of magma
on the wiki or IE or toolbox or something?
Ty
having all chars on divinity was boring. can I take out my ES since he is my best farmer or must he be in divinity for exp bonuses and stuff to work. I just unlocked divinity 2 hrs ago
What cards should I use for speedrun? MK and Dmg?
lev 2 is it. thanks
thanks
o wait. can I candy it or pearl it or something? the divinity exp
Dootless peasants
You rang?
which areas are best in each world for farming splicing?
until all skills are 50 on everyone
what happens on lev 2 anyways? I can link to gods?
I assume I should spend all my points trying to unlock the 1st god-snake-thing
That's the only use of points, so spend away
level two just triggers that youve unlocked divinity and doot activates everything
its based directly on the kph shown on the afk screen, so you can work it out from that, typically ones with high enemy densisties
More offering info: Left side is 1/5/10% and right side is 25/50/100% chance of getting a new god. These cycle any time you spend points. So you can spam the left side to roll for the guaranteed 100% or go for the gamba. For the early gods it's so cheap that it's kind of irrelevant though, just do what you want
Hey, can u get only 1 chow in rift or can you chow every rift stage?
cheers.
you can chow rift?



