lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper prism]

oh i got a free pull 😮

[shrewd nexus]

its extra nothing since i already had one

no.. its identical to nothing for me

[dapper prism]

Mhm, another molti

[dapper prism]

exactly, its like one of the worst xD

[round elk]

got my seconds sluime guys! can´t wait for the third next week

[atomic kiln]

achievement

[languid vapor]

To make u feel better i got 2 sandy pots :/

[dapper prism]

Speaking of luck, real luck is not getting the 2 worst ones, Ram+Pot imo
https://i.imgur.com/LKqZi4J.png

[sterile sundial]

I didn't get frog lmao

[jade dune]

Ram is all. I’ll take it over Crystal crustard any day.

Qol

[atomic kiln]

any1 have this with the hard cap?

[dapper prism]

Nope but some of those say when it is hard capped at least xD

[atomic kiln]

i used to have the hard cap one

cant find it 😦

well well

managed to get big P to 1,4

thats tight

also now all bubbles are in atom range

did chat die?

maybe everyone got banned 😮

[heavy moth]

no clue if thats what you are looking for

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HgEWk3_7nT6tVsMeSXEiHcKfOD9_5AWeqRD6_ZkqexU/edit#gid=72800316

[atomic kiln]

no it was from a banned player who helped EG32 but it seems he took it with him

😦

progress

its gone bro

[cyan shuttle]

It's not gone

Only the creator is gone

[atomic kiln]

yeah, but it seems like some of the creators take the stuff with them, like the good sample guides

[cyan shuttle]

This one didn't

[atomic kiln]

like this guide, i cant find the rest @cyan shuttle

i think koneko took them down

the cards dont matter tho

[low snow]

f this

[haughty vault]

Should I get this lad? (I'm at candy island)

[vale wadi]

i thought why not get a green gems package. Now I got a lot of frogs, beans and other dupes, still missing doot, rift slug and custard. How much money do you need to get them all? Hate getting dupes.

[haughty vault]

Your life savings

[vale wadi]

also the recycle is just 10? it cost 250 per pet now..... wtfff

[autumn rivet]

there's no guarantee to get anything :)

[low snow]

its almost like the system is rigged to make you buy more

[autumn rivet]

stop spending before you feel like shit

[cyan shuttle]

5 for white, 10 for green, 150 for pink, 450 for yellow, 2000 for doot

[modern plaza]

yeah im just making sure i buy out the whole blue gem shop before i forget it's a thing bc of green gems xD

[low snow]

dont buy gems right now. this is not the moment to support lava

[vale wadi]

this is so true, he better could make it that bonusses add up or dont give dupes

[vale wadi]

I already bought it earlier when it was a package

[modern plaza]

no he went offline, and since i bought more blue gems he is back

[low snow]

for all we know he has abandoned the game for now. no interaction. no feedback. unless he says something i assume hes gone

[atomic kiln]

secret: if u support lava now, u will get doot for free

[modern plaza]

he just has to release a couple more companions every few months to keep idleon a great investment of his time. if he left the game at this state, all of his preparation for the companion system would of been a waste. there is no way unless something drastic happens to him irl

[kind mulch]

What is best spot for crystal farm with vman (any world)?

[mortal zinc]

What should my priority be lustre weapons or armour first as i am not getting many green salts at this time

[low snow]

"Preparation of the system"
Its implementation is lazy. The scheme how to do it you can buy for cheap from a gacha game programming course.

[kind mulch]

weapon

[sterile sundial]

My best guess is, he is either sprinting for the hills, or he has decided to create every Companion right now and is focusing only on that to add all of them to the pool then add dupe protection

[deep lodge]

Where there are the most mobs, so tremor worms probably

[kind mulch]

ok, thx

[modern plaza]

the preparation of the companion system is the entire game itself.

[low snow]

X to doubt

But one can still hope

[low snow]

Ohh i like the "end game" theory

[sterile sundial]

It's definitely cope. But that is probably his best course of action at this point

[modern plaza]

The question is why the Divinity Companion first instead of the Lab Chip or Prayer Companion

[low snow]

Its a shame really. He made a good game. Now he skins it for a quick buck

[atomic kiln]

i dont think its how its gonna end

[low snow]

I hope youre right. But the last few years showed how quick people are to rugpull.

Also what else would you hope for? You spent the money. Your interest in this game staying around is way higher than mine now

[atomic kiln]

i mean, i never put max effort into the game, i play between 5-7 hours a week sometimes 10-15 depending on updates or if i have spare time, its just idle gaming, and its still fun.. i got doot for 25 bucks and i have always bought the bundles... so i was lucky.. i wouldnt have bought more to get doot.. what i am saying is that i dont care that much, but its my opinion.

and also i feel bad for people who spent a lot and that it took that direction

[modern plaza]

the game fills a void of feeling like im grinding without grinding and providing the effects of goals like slab/achievements etc... doot or not i would still play bc it offers something new and to do for a long time.

[atomic kiln]

same

and ive played so long now, its just my game... its what i do for an hour or 2 a day

[modern plaza]

its so funny i had a huge ich for maplestory, but then i recalled how horrible the grind is at lvl 200+... and i be like ok ok how do i play an auto-play game

[serene kiln]

Sucks for iOS when you can’t get a hot fix update

[atomic kiln]

never tried maple story, probably never will, maybe if this game gets totally taken down

[modern plaza]

the game is very very excellent up to lvl 120 or 150. but then the grind really kicks in and at 200 you kinda see the real grind

but you experience like 40+ character architypes with power lvling and your own take on each character. theres a good $100 to invest to get going with pets+buffs etc. but wish it had the auto-grind feature lol

[bright current]

quick, someone ask where lava is, its been like 3 hours

[coral canopy]

On it

[agile pagoda]

wait... how am I supposed to get this obol if I can't even collect it from the ground cause its only obtainable through fusion

[atomic kiln]

i need auto, i hate clicking that much lol

[atomic kiln]

equip unequip

[deep lodge]

You don't need to pickup things from the ground anymore

[modern plaza]

i loved clicking a lot back in the day, but auto is key now, my hands re breaking lol

[agile pagoda]

.....?

Woah nice thanks!

[atomic kiln]

hehehe having auto is being spoiled

[steady turret]

I need to respec desperately

[modern plaza]

can't wait for Super Auto Companion

[signal granite]

If you have two orbs at the same time, the first one reset when the second one spawn, then the second one reset when the first one fades out

[deep lodge]

Although if you plan on doing all obol tiers, try to reload the map or something at each tier until you can see it on slab, sometimes it skips one tier if you go too fast

[agile pagoda]

ok

[modern plaza]

I would pay $5/month to have a server auto my character 24/7. If Lava could make this a feature plz

[deep lodge]

You can probably rent a cloud VM or something

[long pilot]

and then if you get a fatty account but cant answer basic questions, just be like "idk I got lucky with doot"

[steady turret]

for far less

[modern plaza]

yeah i hate having my nice system run this game lol... well staying on to say

[atomic kiln]

yeah haha, idk... im playing a long.. i wont spend more than i usually do, max 20-30 a month, kinda like a subscription

[steady turret]

already got him give me a better reason to spend money, hey lava add more cashgrabs

[deep lodge]

I managed to get idleon to run on an old surface pro laptop, and set the screen to shut down after 1 minute. I get huge desync (4h per 10h of active on ES), but the fans don't even turn on so it's pretty nice.

[modern plaza]

please post the most uptodate one

[atomic kiln]

slowly getting up up up

[modern plaza]

do u minimize the game or keep it open too?

[deep lodge]

open

[modern plaza]

also i realize that desync has a huge advantage

lets you get experience 2 sessions of 10h at once over a 20h period

[deep lodge]

What?

Yeah, that seems to be the case

[atomic wing]

Is the I hate lava community still alive?

[deep lodge]

Always

[atomic wing]

Lol

[modern plaza]

no if you swap to all your characters you get the 4hr proc, but once you power save all your characters get 6h extra (4h for 10hr)

[atomic wing]

At this point would being banned from the game for being frustrated with stupid decisions made by a solo dev be a bad thing?

[modern plaza]

right, but if you swap to your characters first you get those 4h procs first, then if you cloudsave you get the 6h on everyone

[deep lodge]

I'd have to check the character timer vs real time to see if they progress at the same speed with desync

[atomic wing]

Would you want to continue playing a game where voicing concerns results in being banned

[modern plaza]

so it's not concerns, its just degen

[steady turret]

something like this maybe?
cheaper is ubuntu more expensive is windows

[deep lodge]

Not sure that's powerful enough, do you even get a GPU?

[lyric sequoia]

Bold of you to think that idleon runs on ubuntu

[atomic wing]

Next currency incoming

[deep lodge]

Web

[lyric sequoia]

if that's AWS, bold of you to assume they install the drivers needed to run a web browser

[lyric sequoia]

Definitely didn't already try spinning up an RDS instance on my work's AWS account to try and play this game forever, I swur

[atomic wing]

Lol I'm gonna dm lava some spicy memes

[modern plaza]

basically you active with 10hr (lets say you have 4hr of true progress and 6hr desync). You'll get the 4hrs active and move that character to a zone you'd like afk gains from. Then you hop on all your characters to secure 4hrs on each of them. When you log out, you'll then get another 6hrs on every character. to get all those juicy procs again. basically like you logged in twice that day but at only a single time

[steady turret]

not really, it has a display device but not much in terms of a GPU, but we're not doing much here I think

[deep lodge]

I see. But for me, those 6 hours active are much more important than the 10x4h over all my characters

[deep lodge]

You'd be surprised but how crappy this game runs

[modern plaza]

but you can't get the 6 hrs active bc it was lost to desync, you can only get it to the afk time now

[deep lodge]

Yeah, it is a nice consolation price for desync if you can't avoid it

[visual lava]

But what they are saying is they value 6hours of statue farming more than 6x10h afk

[steady turret]

[modern plaza]

i dont want to have desync either, but the game takes up so much resources i need to minimize it

[visual lava]

True

[atomic wing]

I tried to dm spicy memes to lava, won't let me

[visual lava]

Some games want to blow up my computer if played alongside idleon

[lyric sequoia]

You're gonna run into RAM problems with those instances anyway

Let alone FPS

[visual lava]

He has auto-blocked everyone in this discord

[atomic wing]

What a d bag

[visual lava]

Wouldn't want to accidentally grow a conscience from seeing all the feedback

[atomic wing]

He literally takes criticism better than anyone

[modern plaza]

Yeah to make idleon take up less resources i switch my max cpu to 25% or even 10%

the desync is maybe like 5-10% if i let it run without minimzing

[atomic wing]

At this rate the dollar signs seem to have corrupted the guy

[lyric sequoia]

I never have desync, idk why you lot have problems

[visual lava]

Nah Lava corrupted the dollar sign

[modern plaza]

its more of reducing the resources idleon is using on the system

[lyric sequoia]

Actually I tell a lie - the only time my account has ever desync'd was when I fell asleep with it on and woke up to 800k+ items on the floor

[stiff prairie]

Guess no update

[visual lava]

Xd

[lyric sequoia]

Less of a concern with a 2m carry cap though

[atomic wing]

At this point what the hell would lava day to make it better

[steady turret]

what instances I have one idleon running it's not my fault it's like this

[stiff prairie]

Did i expect an update, no. but i hoped for one

[visual lava]

Good! Let the hate flow through you!

[serene kiln]

I wish for an iOS hot fix update

[lyric sequoia]

I'm on about the server instance suggestion that was posted before

[ashen marsh]

should I save and wait to buy this?

[steady turret]

Not really I think 2 or 4gb of ram would be enough if it's a linux system

[visual lava]

Wait

[ashen marsh]

whats the difference between white and green bits?

[lyric sequoia]

The one that was posted before had 0.5GB RAM on the instance

[visual lava]

Ain't no way

[near goblet]

1 green = 1000Q white

[ashen marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/faint-omg-pass-out-fall-elmo-gif-15204248

[atomic wing]

Didn't age well did it

[steady turret]

yeah, going for 1 or 2 would cost like 3-4$/month if you pay for a year or 3

[near goblet]

Then theres Red Bits.. then purple or blue am not sure, dont think anyone legally got those

[visual lava]

Damn all that praying amounted to nothing

[modern plaza]

Spoiler, Site to help walk through reducing how much resources idleon uses ||https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-limit-cpu-usage-program/||

[visual lava]

We got 0 free updates after that comment

[lyric sequoia]

Just get a better PC, never worry about resources

[visual lava]

Sounds a lot like "just get Doot"

[lyric sequoia]

At least Lava can get a new PC now so he doesn't have to stream at 140p 12fps constantly

[atomic wing]

Lol

[visual lava]

That comment was made a day after that update

[modern plaza]

my computer is juiced, i dont like the fans tho lol

[atomic wing]

He had money before this update

[ashen marsh]

he bought a lambo so he needs more money

[steady turret]

Just buy a bunch of ram so you don't get choked by idleon

[visual lava]

Damn first choked by the game, then by Doot

[modern plaza]

its just the fans make too much noise lol

i like it to sound peaceful casually running idleon haha

[steady turret]

My fans don't go that loud on the quiet setting

but I guess thats a benefit of a big heatsink with decent fans.

[lyric sequoia]

My fans are loud becuase it's 30 freaking degrees, nothing to do with idleon

[ashen marsh]

oh shit

[steady turret]

nah it's 30 here too and my pc is quiet

[lyric sequoia]

I have sensible curves on my fans though so my PC doesn't run at 80 degrees on idle

[ashen marsh]

I have around 75 google tabs open

[steady turret]

The only thing loud in my pc is my GPU because it's blower style but so long as I don't play something intensive it's cool enough that it doesn't need to get loud

[ashen marsh]

nvm I have about 135 tabs opened

[deep lodge]

Can you send the link to this service? I'm searching for stuff but everything's expensive

[steady turret]

that was in some microsoft azure VM price calculator thing

https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator

this shit expensive tho

[lyric sequoia]

Bruh, Logitech PR is on point pushing their ad campaigns right now

Hilariously cynical corpo move, but can't help but give them props for it

[deep lodge]

The controller video by john?

[lyric sequoia]

Nah they pushed a bunch of ads on twitch

[deep lodge]

lol

[lyric sequoia]

For whatever the fuck their steamdesk competitor is, but such a good move considering their name it in the news by accident

[faint stag]

how can you tell what gods you are connected too on a character

[deep lodge]

Like this for example

[faint stag]

Ahh, okay. I do recall seeing that upon login

[deep lodge]

Or on unlink screen

[bright current]

just have doot

then it doesnt matter

[lyric sequoia]

Doot proving its worth by removing questions like "how do I know what gods they are linked to"

[serene kiln]

Doot for the win

[faint stag]

where would I find the unlink screen

[serene kiln]

Sucks I can’t play rn

[bright current]

maybe this was a based update afterall

[deep lodge]

Go on the altar, click a god, there is the unlink button

[faint stag]

Gotcha. I thought that would unlink me from a god, so I avoided clicking it lol

[modern plaza]

Open Task Manager, Rightclick idleon, go to details, set priority to low, set into efficiency mode. and then open your computer power settings. set max cpu to 99% or anything below 100% and wow big difference

[faint stag]

it makes sense now. I was going to ask why every god said "unlink" on it

[modern plaza]

and <1% desync

and all your other processes run super quick bc idleon is low priority

[deep lodge]

You have 2 unlinks per week now, but watch out you have to select all chars you want to unlink because it will consume a charge even for just one

[faint stag]

2 unlinks per account not per character, right? If im reading that right

Shit

Everyone is on bear as I was leveling up. I just unlocked goat so I want to stop leveling divinity on everyone, lol. Sounds like its going to take a few weeks just to switch everyone off

[flint willow]

you can select multiple to unlink

[near goblet]

You Can turn everyone off at once

[faint stag]

Ahh, okay. Guess I just didn't understand that part

[deep lodge]

It's not very clear for the first time

[low snow]

Does god unlock still grant a free unlink?

[vestal delta]

what does this gold star signify? yesterday my print samples were purple from 2x and 3x

[faint stag]

So that should unlink everyone and only take one charge? Sorry, just want ot be super sure by asking multiple times before commiting lol

[deep lodge]

3x without lab 2x

[faint stag]

and done. Cool! Thanks for all the info yall

[modern plaza]

Purple represents 6x btw

[vestal delta]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm but my lab is literally connected to every jewel... why is it not 6x 🤔

[deep lodge]

Yeah sometime it bugs out

[low snow]

Bugs??? In this game??? No way

[modern plaza]

characters need to be physically in the lab if they dont have bear god

[low snow]

archer slides through the screen

[vestal delta]

I mean... it's pretty connected and none of my guys have purple right now

[patent surge]

how am i so unlucky

[modern plaza]

and they have bunny god?

[deep lodge]

For reference

[vestal delta]

cough. I might be a bastard who pulled doot on 2nd try

[modern plaza]

oh, then yeah it should all be purple

[serene kiln]

Hopefully you not on iOS

[vestal delta]

yesterday everything was purple, it just suddenly turned all gold today 😓

maybe relogging will fix it Copium

[deep lodge]

As long as you confirm being in lab and with bunny god, your prints are fine. The display just bugs out. You can check on IE/IT to be sure tho

[vestal delta]

ah alright that's good to know

[modern plaza]

maybe it just wants to look cool and colorful you know

[vestal delta]

the gold is a good look

[patent surge]

this doesn't seem viable to start super chow ing

[modern plaza]

it really is tbh

[shadow mesa]

can somebody who has some eclipse skulls send their IE? I'm trying to figure out how you even get to a point where that is possible

[patent surge]

i'm close tto one

it's basically level 80 divinity on your sb, and you start gmush afk

[near goblet]

Level 80 for what?

[patent surge]

the quest

just cash in the wind and fertilizer

[near goblet]

Which quest I mean

[modern plaza]

Video for optimizing idleon for desync etc ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2TEEq5tIGM||

[remote sluice]

Am getting Divinity Pearl even when i dont have unlocked the humming god

[patent surge]

the one at lamps

[vestal delta]

#justdootthings

[patent surge]

doot gives you all the god bonuses

regardless if you are in w5 or not

[deep lodge]

Nice, can finally reduce my input lag in idleon so I can snipe mobs more accurately

[remote sluice]

Oh So that what it meant active

[near goblet]

Was confirmed, no

[patent surge]

[modern plaza]

and make worship more bearable lol

[visual lava]

Gonna start green stacking divinity pearls

[modern plaza]

divinity pearls are only for cooking and fishing right?

[vestal delta]

yeah basically

[steady turret]

I should probably put this on my DK for more construction xp, right?

[remote sluice]

Wait all gods as active ? So i dont have to link to god or am i Wrong?

[modern plaza]

do they work on the new skills like divinity release?

[vestal delta]

yup

[shadow mesa]

if you have doot^

[ashen marsh]

whats the point of having two SB

[steady turret]

doesnt work on construction??

[modern plaza]

vman

[steady turret]

vman can splice my balls

\

[patent surge]

that's kinda a lot of efficiency huh

[modern plaza]

whoa it actually scales nicely!

[steady turret]

what lvl is your golden food stamp?

[patent surge]

72

as in i just leveld it once

xdd

[steady turret]

guys I have an idea

companion that prevents new mechanic : golden foods now get consumed

😎

I expect 20% of gains, ya hear me lava?

[patent surge]

too kind

tool now have durability

[vestal delta]

wow I've actualy been sleeping on bloodbones crystal farming, it's so god

[long pilot]

pls delete these horrible ideas

[vapid wraith]

Time to roll my gacha. Doot here I come.

[near goblet]

Characters now have Stamina, limited amount of time action weekly (being active on the class consumed 25x faster)

[patent surge]

this is a 72 hour candy

[vapid wraith]

Not bad

[patent surge]

i got a dupe

which unironically

is so fucking imporbable

and terrible for my account

bricked already

[near goblet]

Grind for the 40 Sandy pots

[vapid wraith]

My first one was the fucking sandy pot, which is actually useless.

[remote sluice]

With doot i still have to be in lab to get exp right

?

[patent surge]

should've done this like 1 month ago

why not

it's cheap anyways

more acc 🙂

it's better now at least

ah shit

i over shot my vman

[lunar reef]

Man these lava skulls suck arse to do

[vestal delta]

is the droprate of beholder statues higher in w3 because there's fewer statues in the pool? or is it irrelevant

[versed cypress]

irrelevant

w1 2 and 3 crystal mobs have exactly the same drop rates for beholder, speed and feasty statues

you basicaly pick which world you want based on the other statues you want

[vestal delta]

ah ok gotcha

[versed cypress]

and as always DK is your best friend for crystals

[vestal delta]

yeah DK farming bloodbones right now since I've totally neglected the w3 statue

[rotund gull]

Some of the W3 statues only come from certain mons, so even that only goes so far 💀

[verbal isle]

What's the most efficient way to get v portal points? Is it just run from w1 or do those points save and just keep pushing like w 2 or 3

Like if I've cleared all of w1 should I try to do it faster or just do w 2

[rotund gull]

You need to get as many portals earned in a single run as you can

[verbal isle]

Fuck

[vestal delta]

https://old.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/13mhamu/spoiler_vman_guide_for_highscore/

there's also some tricks with boss zones

[rotund gull]

And do nightmare bosses cause they give 3 points

[vestal delta]

e.g. kill each nightmare for 3x points, and also kill a couple extra mobs in the boss map because there's a hidden portal

[atomic kiln]

my max run is 61

[chrome tiger]

still not an endgamer ;_;

[atomic kiln]

nice

just late

u gotta beat me anyway to be a end gamer

[strong hazel]

Has anyone gotten a T7 plant yet?

[atomic kiln]

nah

[strong hazel]

Is it 5000x more rare than a T6 or just in general than all the others? So total of 20x more rare than T6

[verbal isle]

Jeez, I see I'm going to really have to revamp my vman I thougj 25 was good people getting 50+

[atomic kiln]

60+

[remote sluice]

On vman my exp gain is Now 4.6b when i got doot Soo....yeah

And i am just level 197

But thats cause Divinity with am am Close to 40 on all char

[atomic kiln]

nice

[remote sluice]

Have to wait for the div.40 on all char. And exp go brr

[atomic kiln]

that sucks'

long wait

[vestal delta]

you'd probably still want to keep them all on mantra until 60? the 40 is just 3xp outside of rock

[atomic kiln]

go for 80+

[lyric sequoia]

div points doesn't mean a lot if you've got all the gods already, tranqi for passive levelling for the mastery is fine after that

[remote sluice]

If i have 2x is it better to put all on mantra or tranqi ?

Cause if i should Wait for it or just put then Fighting

[lyric sequoia]

tranqi is the better exp

If you've not got all the gods just sit a couple on alter to get points as they level, cycle out if they hit 80

[vestal delta]

mantra is 1xp per squatter, so up to 10 per hour vs. the 3/hr of tranqi...it's just got the convenience of being able to leave the rock

[lyric sequoia]

Mantra needs them on the altar

If they're on the altar then there are far better ones

[vestal delta]

are there? pre-80?

[lyric sequoia]

Yes, all of them

[vestal delta]

🤔

[lyric sequoia]

Mantra gets outscaled fast by all the other styles that require you to sit on the altar

[remote sluice]

I just noticed i get 82 purple coins per h wow

[lyric sequoia]

Can always do what I did and sit 8 characters on altar till you've got all the gods, which if you're unlucky like I was lines up to getting them into the mid 80s. First 2 characters I took them off altar as soon as they hit 40 for tranqi

(ignore gods, they do be inaccurate because IE isn't updated)

[vestal delta]

for leveling, if you've got 8 squatters on mantra, and the 2 off the rock on tranqi, it's going to be way more exp overall

[fading cape]

I went to goat with my lab six the put them in lab on mantra till the others were levelled. Kept my others on divinity overnight when no other afk gains were needed

[dim wind]

What do you guys sample with the beast master? not great in any skill in particular and no point getting mob drops with VMan

[lyric sequoia]

If you've got 6 on goat then vitalic is better on them all, not mantra

[vapid wraith]

Best obol frag spot? I'm on bloodbones with DK atm.

[lyric sequoia]

Vitalic is 7 exp, 6 on mantra is 6

[vestal delta]

mine's on mob drops

[strong socket]

might as well sample the air with bm kek

[vestal delta]

but it's 6 for ALL, including the non-squatters

[lyric sequoia]

Only if you have 10 on the altar

Literally not

[vestal delta]

??????????

[lyric sequoia]

Mantra is not active for a character unless that character is actively on the altar (either physically or via goat)

[vestal delta]

I think you might have misread mantra, my guy

[lyric sequoia]

Tranqi is the only style that works while not on the alter at all

[vestal delta]

🤔

ok so mantra works like this:
6 guys on altar/lab = 6xp for ALL
4 guys not altar/lab = still getting that 6xp

[lyric sequoia]

Notice the difference in wording? It's important

[vestal delta]

so you can have those 4 on tranqi and get 9xp/hr for them while out of lab

^^^

[lyric sequoia]

I'm not saying they don't get exp, I'm telling you you're not getting 10exp per hour simply by having the style active. All 10 of those characters have to also be active on the altar in some way to get that 10 exp

[vestal delta]

nobody said that lol

[lyric sequoia]

Are you sure? 🤔

[lyric sequoia]

🤔

[vestal delta]

you're not wrong

[lyric sequoia]

I'm not arguing that all characters gain exp, I'm arguing that a character not on the altar does not contribute to that exp total

Which is what you stated in the message I just replied with above

[vestal delta]

they said that the non-squatters still receive benefits

[lyric sequoia]

"acc wide mantra is 10 exp per sitter 0 div points"

[vestal delta]

not that they contribute to the exp gain

[lyric sequoia]

To which, when I said it's only 10 if you have 10 on the altar you responded with this

[vestal delta]

the 10 he says is account-wide

1x10 characters = 10 exp

[tawdry epoch]

Its 1 exp per hours not 10 you would need all 10 sitting to get the 10 exp per hour

[lyric sequoia]

What

[tawdry epoch]

Yes you get 1 exp for all 10 if you have 1 sitter

Yes

[vagrant mountain]

10exp each

[lyric sequoia]

A single sitter does not contribute 10 exp to characters, it contributes 1 exp to each

[lost beacon]

My man ate the lead paint

[vestal delta]

10x mantra = 10chars * 10xp = 100 xp per hour (total)
9x mantra, 1x tranqi = (10chars * 9xp) + 3xp = 93 total
8x mantra, 2x tranqi = (1chars * 8xp) + 2*3xp = 86 total

etc...

[true kestrel]

...for a total of 10, spread out

[lyric sequoia]

Also flat exp, not hit by any possible multipliers (that it gives to other characters)

[vestal delta]

nothing out-values mantra except the level 80 style if you care about exp

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[true kestrel]

Oh, right, hold up

[lost beacon]

How deep of a hole does that shovel dig?

[lyric sequoia]

It's almost like any exp that the other styles give to a character also gets all the exp multipliers, while mantra explicitly does not for the exp that it gives other characters

[true kestrel]

There's something about afk claims that makes mantra weird for the other characters

[vagrant mountain]

same , 10 mantra ftw

[vestal delta]

10 mantra gang rise up

[true kestrel]

I'm not sure how it works 100%

[lyric sequoia]

If you have 10 characters on mantra on the altar, you get 1 exp from afk gains per hour that gets multipliers, then 9 flat exp per hour applied after the fact

[vestal delta]

it works exactly like this, all exp multipliers apply the same as per usual

[lyric sequoia]

Which is why 7 personal exp levels far faster than 6 mantras

[jolly shard]

When should I be pushing divinity ? I feel like a lot of bonus to xp and div gain come mid way into w5

[lyric sequoia]

You're actually, factually wrong that all multipliers apply evenly

Like, that has long since been proved by people since banned from discord

Mantra is competitive in the early stages of unlocking w5, not later on

[rotund gull]

10 mantra is good early on when you don't have a bunch of bonuses, but falls off

[versed cypress]

not exactly, every char individual multis affects the exp they give to other chars,

and you do not get the mantra exp distributed to other characters until you claim the char that is doing mantra

[signal osprey]

What it comes down to is the double exp chance. It doesn't apply to shared exp

[versed cypress]

yeah double exp doesnt apply

[signal osprey]

Assuming you have at capped or at least nearly capped then its more exp on average to use vitalic on everyone than mantra

[past hearth]

What unlocks should I prioritize for W5 achievements

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[versed cypress]

situational but yeah overall if youonly have a few ppl doing div you want vitalic, if you have ALL your chars there you want mantra, afterwards you just want tranquil to continue leveling wiht out being in th altar and whenever you want to push gods you go for vitalic or the last one at lvl 80

ahhh no mantra is very good

it just depends on what you want and what you need

[signal osprey]

Even at 10 characters vitalic averages more if you math it out assuming 75% double afk but other than that yeah you're right

Not to mention you get div points too

[vestal delta]

yeah the whole thing started from "literally every style is better than mantra" 😂

[versed cypress]

vitalic is just 3base so even with double you get 6base exp, having 7ppl in mantra already gives you more exp value than vitalic

[signal osprey]

Vitalic is 7 exp

[past hearth]

For gaming, do some things need a certain gaming lvl to grow past a certain stage?

[versed cypress]

ahhh yeah tranquil is 3 sorry my bad

[past hearth]

Some of these like the flower never grow past stage 3

[vestal delta]

superbits gives you a thing

[versed cypress]

if you have double exp chance capped, then yeah vitalic is superior and you still get points

[vestal delta]

it's the 4th unlock on the right side of gaming, whatever level that is

[signal osprey]

Don't need super bit to get t4 you just have to wait even harder

[past hearth]

okay I see. Each plant has 4 transformations total?

[vestal delta]

to start, it goes up to 7

[signal osprey]

Wait until you hear about T8

[past hearth]

The storage upgrades are what increase the cap? Or it's just really unliekly to upgrade after a while?

[vestal delta]

is that a thing? 😂 100000x rarer than normal?

[signal osprey]

Yeah it technically goes up to 8 but realistically only 6. Don't think a single T7 has ever been unlocked yet

[vestal delta]

where's the upgrade for the 8th? (theoretically)

[vapid wraith]

Best obol frag farming spot? Bloodbones with DK?

[vestal delta]

snelbies with dk

[past hearth]

My lvl number changed colour

[vestal delta]

do you guys filter out lucky lads?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[past hearth]

[iron ravine]

1 week since REDACTED happened🫡

[pearl quail]

Who cares about doot when u can suck my foot😌

[deep lodge]

I don't have the energy for this...

[dim wind]

gee, how did you get snail with only 28.5k gold

[deep lodge]

I had 10k before today

[bright current]

[dim wind]

that doesn't change the question 😛

[bright current]

hard work and dedication

[deep lodge]

I was on 10k for 6 months without any nugget upgrade too

Also, 1 Ancient and 1 eldritch bits relic are what got me snail

[modern plaza]

ive been on chemical for 2months kek

[bright current]

i took like 3 months to get evergreen

then got chemical the day after it lol

[vagrant mountain]

after obsessing over why one of my DKs is getting twice as much div exp as my other one, I have found the answer

[dim wind]

big bubble?

[vagrant mountain]

he has invisible talents from my shaman

[urban gorge]

Is there a mid game guide on what each player should be doing?

[lyric sequoia]

That's alchemy 🤔

[fading dust]

How are you supposed to be choosing for the chances of getting the divinity gods

[lyric sequoia]

That is no longer alchemy 🤔

[modern plaza]

wtf!?

puts all characters in same cauldron as my bubos

[obtuse rover]

The costs are "fair" so it doesn't really matter what odds you roll on for divinity gods.

But most people prefer the safety of rolling the left-side, cheap options until the right option offers 100% and then just saving up for that.

[vagrant mountain]

one of my DKs is receiving invisible talents from my shaman, they have more or less the exact same set up

[fading dust]

Can u try swapping players in the cauldron

[vagrant mountain]

1 sec

[remote sluice]

Should i turn on stone for getting new evolution quick or not?

[obtuse rover]

Could it be vman talent buffing the lab exp skill from bubo, and based on bubo position in lab only 1 DK is getting the benefit?

[lyric sequoia]

Well there's statistics that play into that which makes total cost different while raw cost stays the same

[obtuse rover]

It will make it go faster if that's what you want

[lyric sequoia]

Rolling left till 100 is statistics at play

[vagrant mountain]

I don't have vman unless you mean right hand of action, but both of my DKs are orange cauldron and my shaman is in purple

[vagrant mountain]

tried to recreate it I couldn't, could have to do with some sort of snapshotting mechanic between steam and android cuz I use both

[obtuse rover]

There's a vman talent that upgrades the effect of the bubo talent for being in lab on one side of characters. Do you literally just not have a vman?

[vagrant mountain]

I don't even have a bubo bro my maestro LVL 77

[obtuse rover]

Gotcha

[vagrant mountain]

https://gwuam.idleonefficiency.com/

my scuffed IE if you guys want to take a look

they have the same set up more or less

kinda checks out if you look at my shaman's talents

[vestal delta]

do you have the 2x card doubler jewel from lab?

cause your cards are set up in different order for the topleft / bottom right

[lyric sequoia]

Are you taking your characters out of lab when you look at this stuff? They're both in there atm

[vestal delta]

also bad_decision has 105 points into specialized skill xp vs. 37 for white_masa

[lyric sequoia]

That'd do it

almost 70% extra exp

[vagrant mountain]

doesn't affect chopping alchemy or div

trust me I made sure it wasn't any of the above

[broken oar]

???????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The last time i checked my g mush kills it was 30k k/h

[deft grail]

ur a pro gamer now

[vagrant mountain]

@dapper prism found the answer, he has invisible talents from my shaman

[sleek tree]

You found a slime, nice

[stuck pasture]

I got molti, wooo wait another week, great gameplay much wow

[sleek tree]

Molti OP

[gusty apex]

I got frog this week....

[void pulsar]

what does Pong Controller do?

[ancient vine]

Finally 5 digits nugget 🥹

[woven hazel]

sweet nug bro

[ancient vine]

Yeah, i was stuck in 3.6k a long time

All thanks to chems

[bright current]

lets u play pong, which gives bonuses depending on ur high score

[woven hazel]

do chems incrase nugget score?

[ancient vine]

No they give you hours

So more chances to get nuggets

[bright current]

i cbf lookin it up. rifts 39 & 40 are both get 5m afk kills right?

[upbeat anchor]

It took me like 2 weeks to save 100k green bits, is it worth saving for pong?

[void pulsar]

is there a list of what those bonuses are?

[bright current]

yea

1. increased bits gained

end of list

[opaque sun]

scaling bit multipler per score. Unlik pen pals its just bit multiplier

And its not like in a clear break point

[bright current]

yea but it was funnier when i said it

[void pulsar]

was it tho?

[bright current]

yes

[vocal flower]

Man what sort of dps do I need for rift 38?

[bright current]

have u leveled ur active abilities?

[vocal flower]

Me?

[bright current]

ye

[vocal flower]

Yes

[bright current]

its kinda hard to point at a specific dps number

[vocal flower]

My Sb is ~12b, but the rest are all in the 4-5b range

[bright current]

if u can get ur character to about 10b ur probs in the ballpark of it being possible

[vocal flower]

Right that answers that then lol

[bright current]

SB make sure hit multi pellet thing is as high as u can get it

[vocal flower]

Can do it on my Sb but not the rest of them

[ancient vine]

What requires rift 38 to need so much damage

Afk? 💀

[vocal flower]

Regen boss mobs

[signal osprey]

If its a boss stage the best characters are ES, bubo, and then DK

[ancient vine]

Oh

[signal osprey]

Keep in mind bubo requires the syringe and potion attacks

[vocal flower]

Will try on the es

[signal osprey]

A normal aura poison setup won't do it

[ancient vine]

Vials doesnt so more damage?

[signal osprey]

Yeah that one.

I said potions. Close enough

[vocal flower]

Lol 3.6b is definitely not gonna cut it

[signal osprey]

Make sure you're booking your attacks as high as you can

And the mark talent for mages helps a lot too

[opaque sun]

ES has good damage multipliers on his attack skills, and SB also tends to be easy to get max damage in general

Bubo sucks in burst damage if you use his “minimalist farming” set up, but does nice damage if you add those “useless in farming” single target talents

[sleek fulcrum]

Is there a guide for rift dos thresholds?

Dps

[stuck pasture]

Already have him

[finite charm]

So I have 6 evolutions available for gaming, but only ever can get up to 4th evolution, is it bugged?

[shrewd nexus]

no, your just impatient

[finite charm]

40+ hours still nothing

[sick sentinel]

Just gotta wait a while, use chem plants and bog log

[shrewd nexus]

exactly

[sick sentinel]

Thats not long at all lol

[finite charm]

Idon't have chem plants lol and i am in the low green billions lol

[stuck pasture]

#1106590058947035247 message

@finite charm

[shrewd nexus]

do you have te stone on?

[finite charm]

no buti probably should for it huh?

[shrewd nexus]

youd think so

[finite charm]

ok i'll try that

[shrewd nexus]

stones only really good for unlocking new plants though, in general its bad

[finite charm]

that's why i never use it lol

[stuck pasture]

Looking at 3-4 days for t5, 200 ish for t6

[shrewd nexus]

with log, chem and afk% and stuff you can get 3-4 days in like 10 minutes with a bit of luck

[vocal flower]

Ayy free rift slug lol

[finite charm]

damn the time is rediculous

[vocal flower]

Wait wtf

Game said I got rift slug, went to look at collection and it changed to bean???

Wtf is this.??

[shrewd nexus]

u high bro?

[vocal flower]

Not even slightly

Very low right now 🤣

[crude oxide]

Were you looking at the giant preview pet

[tight ridge]

i just unlocked all bubbles finally, what should i do next with my chars? do i max out the boosts or put them on water, or sigils?

[solid python]

YOO i got a good one this week

all big bubbbles lets goo

insane QoL

[shrewd nexus]

two greens , zero whitew... i got two bloques, fuck you

[solid python]

reroll 😼

reroll for doot win catch up to wherever you are in a month and prosper

[shrewd nexus]

tbhmy acconts old enough that it would take a massive time sink to remake it even with doot

must be nice rolling those green pets though

trading a mint-condition bloque for doot (any condition considered)

[placid mural]

I thought you had left us good to see you

[sage ermine]

I got sheepie it is really good

Anywon got their second pet doesn’t work on iOS

[summer storm]

how do the lava skulls work in rift?

whats the tactic to get them

[vestal delta]

leave bottom row alive, farm mid + top on ES or bubo

killed enemies transfer/upgrade skulls of alive ones, so you have to leave one platform alone

[summer storm]

so its quite quick then?

also if a mob has 4 skull already?

[vernal iris]

idk I just afk'd and got it in like 5 minutes

on both dk and es

[vapid wraith]

60$

• my soul

Also, any reason to use this? Charge rate is too trash.

[shrewd nexus]

+2% all stats

[sick sentinel]

Only to craft last skull

[vapid wraith]

10k nullo, yikes

[shrewd nexus]

refinery gets a lot faster with various w5 buffs, salts become less worrying

elephant god is dope

[zealous niche]

It’s used to craft the best skull

[vapid wraith]

Guess I'll keep mine for now.

[zealous niche]

Inb4 10k nullo salts per armour piece

[shrewd nexus]

the 10m crumbs are the hardest bit of the armour

is there a trick to using the subclass swap token, held down on it on my BC wanting a ES and nothing will happen

[rotund gull]

yeah, use it before you have an elite upgrade

to change to ES you'll need to get an elite class swap token from the limited specials in gem shop

[vapid wraith]

need this if you are already elite class

[shrewd nexus]

dang

eh ill just keep my bc, was just trying to swap since i got a free token at the event

thanks for awnsers

[vapid wraith]

Blue one is useless, which is why my second Barbarian is still a Barb until I get around to swapping him to DK

[rotund gull]

make sure to level up BC to taste before swapping to ES. They gain levels much faster from high rate of crystal kills

[shrewd nexus]

good call, they 430 so should be ok

[serene kiln]

What’s the lvl you have to be for divinity to get max minor affects

[vestal delta]

it's infinitely scaling, there's no max

[serene kiln]

Well I mean for the max minor effect

[vestal delta]

well there's a max, there's just no reaching it

[shrewd nexus]

it goes to an asymtope or however you spell it

Divinity_Level / (60 + Divinity_Level) * Big_P_Bubble(min 1) * (God's_Max_Passive)

max bonuses are on the wiki

[serene kiln]

So you can’t get the max minor effect?

[vestal delta]

you can infinitely approach it, but never reach it

[shrewd nexus]

i mean you can get close

[serene kiln]

Dang that sucks

70% accuracy would be fire

[shrewd nexus]

but 69.9% sucks?

also acc is a useless stat

[vestal delta]

if ur having accuracy problems, fix your alchemy 😂

[serene kiln]

Yes that .1% hurts to look at

[shrewd nexus]

lol fair enough

[serene kiln]

Oh I’m not having any problems I just made it to world 5 and now I’m going back to get stamps and work on upgrading everything

I was just wondering since I have doot. What level I needed to get everyone in divinity to get all the bonuses up there

[shrewd nexus]

69

lvl 60 should get you half of max

[muted bramble]

well its been a full week, so big man just gave up on the game i guess

[shrewd nexus]

gave up talking to discord at least

[placid tusk]

Game is no more, only doot

[vestal delta]

each multiple of 60 levels = another fraction
60 = 1/2
120 = 2/3
180 = 3/4
240 = 4/5
etc...

[shrewd nexus]

the background doot on the second one is a nice touch

[serene kiln]

Oh ok thank you very much

[royal cliff]

Should I prio vman over lab levels?

[zealous niche]

Yes

[shrewd nexus]

vman worth it just for the insane cooking boost

[zealous niche]

I like it for souls and critter boost

[shrewd nexus]

yeah for sure, i more meant even if the only thing he did was boost cooking, he would still be worth it

[zealous niche]

Agreed there

[fading dust]

Any specific artifacts I should try tounlok quickly

[zealous niche]

The island one has some nice quick ones

Fury relic from mushroom island (mid of the map) is also a game changer

[weary hinge]

the sailing speed and artifact arti is good for starters

[zealous niche]

I found neko revolutionary since I could boost my stamps significantly

[weary hinge]

the tusk one, bonus arti chance

[fading dust]

When should I unlock clouds vs artifact hunting

[shrewd nexus]

the odds go down the further the island, so id do them semi in order

[zealous niche]

Once you have a few ships, one ship goes cloud unlocking, everybody else on artifacts

[weary hinge]

do it with your fastest boat.

[fading dust]

gotcha gotcha

[weary hinge]

prioritize speed/loot captains. dont use arti chance, cloud discovery, rare chest chance

[zealous niche]

Speed/arti and speed/speed are decent to fill up your slots with while you're getting speed/loot

[shrewd nexus]

why not use arti chance? its pretty good

[weary hinge]

it loses effectiveness in the long run

but i still have those since i dont have good rolled captains

[zealous niche]

You're biggest hinderance late game is getting your ships to the islands in any reasonable timeframe

well, late sailing

[shrewd nexus]

but why loot > arti

[zealous niche]

Ship upgrades

to get more speed

to get to the islands

[weary hinge]

oh yea feels good

[zealous niche]

I currently need 60M speed for min runs at the last island, it takes a while to build up to that

[signal osprey]

Plus the arti chance captains just dont do a whole lot

[shrewd nexus]

ship upgrades will come with time anyway, imma stick with with arti%

[signal osprey]

By that logic you could say artifacts will come with time anyway too

[shrewd nexus]

but its a longer time

hence arti%

[signal osprey]

Then ship upgrades are a longer time

hence loot%

[zealous niche]

I recon I'll get eldritch in most things before I get that 60M speed ship

I'm about 1/3 done with artifacts and not close to being able to have good ships to farm the late islands

[shrewd nexus]

the problem here is that high ship levels isnt the goal, all artifacts and sailing is done, so this doesnt make sense as an argument

[signal osprey]

You need the ship levels to get all artifacts doen though

[cyan granite]

Hey guys just rolled my 2nd free roll and got a duplicate of my old one, feeling hopeful for doot for next summon

[shrewd nexus]

ship levels increase steeply in cost, so investing in loot doesnt really give you many more levels

[signal osprey]

Using arti chance might save a couple days in the short term but when your boats cant reach the last island you're gonna lose a ton of time long term

[nimble socket]

The ship levels is mainly to get the speed to reach 2 hour min trip on the island

[signal osprey]

Arti chance is hella short sighted

Plus it doesnt even scale that well anyway

[zealous niche]

Once you get 2 hour mins on all islands swap to artifact chance sure

[weary hinge]

we got the same scenario. we cope and wait for next week

[signal osprey]

So even the short term gains are kinda meh

[oak bough]

All short term sailing gains are meh

[cyan granite]

It’s gon happen next week trust me

[shrewd nexus]

i can reach all the islands, just working on eldritch artifacts, loot doesnt make much sense, but someone said it in a guide so i guess its what you will all do

[oak bough]

Sailing is a long game

[weary hinge]

cmon man dont jinx that

[nimble socket]

True, the artifact that boosts arti chance will make up most of your %

Especially if ancient/eldritch

[cyan granite]

It was jinxed from the start man

[signal osprey]

Its what everyone who has completed all eldritch artifacts does 🤷‍♂️

[zealous niche]

Reaching is not the problem, getting there fast is

[signal osprey]

But what do endgamers know

[oak bough]

Endgames relative right

[signal osprey]

I've unlocked the cloud on the last island

Sailing endgame

Ignore the fact that my fastest boat takes 8 hours to get there

[nimble socket]

Not anymore, #endgame-gen-chat essentially became if you have doot or not. Doot talk

[oak bough]

I have doot so sailing is easy

[obsidian nacelle]

I need a complete idiots guide to sailing cause artifacts- I don’t get them, at all.

[oak bough]

+alch bubbles and div afk gains

[weary hinge]

please accept my salt.

[vernal iris]

yarrrr

[oak bough]

I apologise i'll place your salt in my eyes!

[weary hinge]

ayy another one

[agile pagoda]

How much speed is reasonable to unlock island 9?

[weary hinge]

the fury island? 300k is enough

[lavish cloak]

okay, full week since drop. lava said something somewhere right? he didn't just let this thing go out and cook on it right? he asked for input from the crowd like he always does right?

[agile pagoda]

yikes... aint gonna go far with my 24k speed...

[agile pagoda]

Kinda curious too

[vestal delta]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pudgypenguins-cope-coping-copium-9HonmWQDTap127SPs2

[kind lance]

RIFT 17 , what is best way to get lava skulls?

[weary hinge]

i honestly let my character beat mobs til i see a skull

[vestal delta]

es/bubo on the middle platform -> auto -> come back in 10 mins and check the bottom platform

[kind lance]

Sure will try

[vestal delta]

also make sure you have the respawn stuff active so you don't wander down

[vagrant mountain]

is mantra not working for anyone else?

[kind lance]

Also if i unlock TranQi
Will i get divinity exp for using candies on older worlds?

[kind lance]

Its working for me

[vagrant mountain]

maybe doot related

[cobalt nimbus]

Can't wait for next week to get another one of it, almost 1 month with no ancient or eldritch artifacts, and 2 month with the same nugget value

[kind lance]

I got a frog too 🥲

[vestal delta]

oh it's that time going in

[nimble socket]

Bloque, take it or leave it

[signal osprey]

Its gonna be a slime or a doot there's no inbetween

[vestal delta]

sandy pot 🥲

[nimble socket]

+15 base all stats, insane pet

[vestal delta]

basically better than doot, that thing doesn't even give stats

[signal osprey]

Yeah doot is kinda trash low-key

All the afk gains he gives means you can't hit 1% afk with rucksack anymore

Not worth

[clever hill]

is there any way to farm gems aside from quests and boss killing? 😮

[urban gorge]

grind a job irl

[signal osprey]

Colloseum is where I get a lot of my gems

[vestal delta]

alchemy, guild box, alchemy, the levelup giftbox bubble from alchemy, giant mobs

[clever hill]

ty

[viscid sandal]

geez these really need 10m?

[tawdry steeple]

10m is really easy with es

[viscid sandal]

ah true, I should give that a go. was relying on afk

thx

[graceful rivet]

Does beast master enhancment affect shiny level up speed

Sadness

[gaunt forge]

Since the best armor magma is only made from troll, is there any point in getting diabolical armor?

[weary hinge]

1 set for slab

[grand dagger]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[sleek tree]

A lot of piles of Red Salt increase the speed of building?

[random lake]

is there a list of atom priorities?

[weary hinge]

yes

the atom list priority i dont really know

but generally after you unlock the kitchen one (fluoride), you go max the boron, and the carbon

[signal osprey]

Getting 1 point in most atoms is a good start. After that maxing hydrogen and lithium is really cheap. The first big max is going to be boron

[weary hinge]

oh right hydrogen is the first one. i dont see collider that much

[random lake]

is fluoride the last one?

[weary hinge]

no, neon is the last one

[signal osprey]

Fluoride is second to last and you max it after boron

[weary hinge]

very expensive

[random lake]

why boron?

[weary hinge]

gives you atom upgrade on bubbles

[sweet mountain]

Why is the achievement not popping up?

[weary hinge]

which passes 100m mats

[weary hinge]

manually put 1 pretzel

[sweet mountain]

K.. thnks

[signal osprey]

Alch is the most important skill in the game and boron enables you to push alch to a point that would never be possible otherwise

[random lake]

but its so expensive XD

[weary hinge]

thats why you increase your atom production sooner or later haha

[signal osprey]

If you think boron is expensive then you won't really be able to max many things out anyway

[random lake]

best atom production is oak?

[weary hinge]

yes

[amber dagger]

Hey guys has Lava said anything

[signal osprey]

Aside from hydrogen and lithium which I mentioned as being cheap, boron is among the cheapest atoms to max

[weary hinge]

no my friend, we still waitin

[random lake]

ive nearly maxed lithuium XDD

[signal osprey]

Yeah I mentioned hydrogen and lithium as being cheap

Boron is next. Only other cheap one is beryllium but its also useless

[random lake]

aight time to concentrate on boron so

how about helium? worth maxing?

[signal osprey]

You can put points into when you have the atoms but the cost scaling is way too high to max it

[random lake]

does it tive a high boost for sampling?

[signal osprey]

Getting it just to level 10 will cost more atoms than maxing all other atoms combined

Its an okay boost. Its not game breaking or anything but its worth doing if you can afford it

Boron is more important though

[vocal flower]

Lmao literally just logged in thinking man ancient crystal steak would be a nice boost

Not terrible. Just ~30% damage increase 🙂

[dapper prism]

Remember, each upgrade in Boron will refill/reset your daily alchemy atom cap. So make sure you spend the attempts you have, upgrade, spend it again. etc

[random lake]

which alchemy bubbles should i concnetrate on in this?

[dapper prism]

Depends on your bubbles and samples

[weary hinge]

those that affects chopping eff/gains.

[dapper prism]

e.g. what you can afford xD I like Larry a lot

Then stuff that increases your samples, keeping in mind their max cap

[graceful rivet]

Does infinite star signs bypass requirements to get them in first place

[dapper prism]

or wait, what do you mean exactly

[weary hinge]

you still get them even if you didnt unlock them

[graceful rivet]

I haven’t unlocked all the star signs

so like can the infinite unlock them for me as perm if I haven’t unlocked it through challenge yet

[weary hinge]

as long as it has an infinite sign, its already passive even if you didnt unlock it prior

[graceful rivet]

Aight Ty

[opaque sun]

you can get all starsign bonuses even without doing any constellation as long you do infinite starsign

[graceful rivet]

How do people get a lot of atoms btw I want to start grinding atoms soon

[muted bramble]

is there a good way to get more Tab 1 talent points ?

[graceful rivet]

any tips on that?

[vestal delta]

massive log + copper prints

[signal osprey]

All of your atoms come from 3D prints.

[graceful rivet]

How to do that ?

[vestal delta]

git gud

[muted bramble]

samples ...

[signal osprey]

Focus on your skilling bubbles in alchemy is the main thing

[vestal delta]

but actually, alchemy + rifts (if you haven't done them yet)

[graceful rivet]

How to get large prints I mean

[signal osprey]

Bubbles 1 2 and 3 in purple and orange cauldrons are a good starting point

[vestal delta]

getting 1k total level in every skill helps a lot too

[muted bramble]

follow the guides and charts

[signal osprey]

Also make sure you push the big bubbles enough to get 300% multi chance

[opaque sun]

like raise upgrade sources that say efficiency

[signal osprey]

Push your sampling talent books as high as you can

[muted bramble]

now let me cut in, any good way to get tab 1 skill points ?

[signal osprey]

Level up

[vestal delta]

there's also flat efficiency in divinity and lab that make huge boosts

[muted bramble]

im already lvl 400 and im short like 200-300 to max out my main stat trait ...

[vestal delta]

• all the lab chips about efficiency, cards, pendant, star signs, etc

[dapper prism]

Levels, dungeon flurbo

[opaque sun]

like you should have more than enough to max everything in tab 1 by w5, but people rushed too fast I guess

[dapper prism]

lvl 376 and i have 287 leftover atm:
https://i.imgur.com/X836Olw.png

[muted bramble]

i was W5 the moment it came out and i wasnt maxed ...

[signal osprey]

The talent point bubbles help a lot and are increased by bubble 2 in their respective cauldrons

[dapper prism]

idk how or why you would really need more or not have enough

[muted bramble]

this is my ES lvl 379

[dapper prism]

es at 369 would not need agi most likely

[opaque sun]

like you know you have presets too

[muted bramble]

dmg/skilling

this is my dmg preset

[dapper prism]

Also hp.. ? Def on ES?

[pulsar heart]

why do u guys have green !'s

[muted bramble]

im weak what can i say

[dapper prism]

Not all spent pts

it's bottom right, Menu then Options, you can toggle a setting

[pulsar heart]

oh

[signal osprey]

Well your options for points are gonna be leveling up or the alch bubble

Thats where most of them come from

[opaque sun]

i actually feel more comfortable having green “!” than knowing i dont have any more buffer talents

[dapper prism]

💳 for killroy

[vestal delta]

• skilling if you don't have everything up to par yet

[muted bramble]

im pretty up there .... ignore some of them tho

[opaque sun]

Points Left: 0 means there is at least one half-assed talent

[vestal delta]

catching to 50 and cooking + fishing to 30 (with balloons) is an easy 70 extra pointsor whatever

also mining to 50 should be easy

[dapper prism]

getting this up helps:
https://i.imgur.com/bsv61B0.png

With this
https://i.imgur.com/wXZ4LKG.png

[muted bramble]

about that chief

[pulsar heart]

wonder if i'll get enough pens to max myriad crate if i leave my pc on for like a week

[dapper prism]

Just leveled thewarriors rule now i went from 287 to 299 talent pts avail

[signal osprey]

Getting pens is the easy part of maxing myriad

The hard part is clicking that many times

[dapper prism]

Probably.
I got 161 pens/h on DK with 13x DR. 80 pens = over 240 boxes so 500+ boxes (depending on artis) per hour.

[pulsar heart]

i spent like 40 mins using 1000 pens up today

lol

[zealous niche]

Do it in small batches so you don’t get RSI

[vestal delta]

I have 10k pens that i've been putting off because clicking bad 🤮

[dapper prism]

guess i should... start using them? :/
https://i.imgur.com/axXaCge.png

[muted bramble]

or pay your nefew to do is for you

[dapper prism]

I was thinking of just doing the pens for colo ticket ones

ignore myriad, seems so minimal

[signal osprey]

I do +100 streak a day in PO1 to slowly get more myriad boxes over time and then 30-40 colo tickets depending on my patience levels at the time

[muted bramble]

random question, do i need to use every bag to get the highest cap or can i just use the latest one to have cap ?

[pulsar heart]

latest

[weary hinge]

latest

the earlier ones you get to slab only

[muted bramble]

alright cause i used the latest i could currently use but it shows the one before ...

[dapper prism]

Still need to craft them at some point for slab. BUT well worth skipping a bunch

like tab 5 are so much easier than tab 4's xD

[signal osprey]

Map refresh will change your bag

[muted bramble]

nevermind it didnt register

[muted bramble]

appreciate you

[vestal delta]

when do yall reset your postbox streaks? or do you just keep them going forever

[weary hinge]

at streak 100 is good

it scales up to 100 only

[dapper prism]

First one is so cheap that it's pretty easy to just continue, except for the bars one.

[vestal delta]

yeah my first one is 400 and I'm wondering if I should just reset or keep it going...finally catching up on neglected post office

[signal osprey]

[vestal delta]

oh wow

[opaque sun]

That was some diligent clicking

[signal osprey]

That got me a whopping 1/3rd of a myriad

[opaque sun]

Now do 2 more times to max it

[dapper prism]

Wouldn't write something like that (Rule 4)

[signal osprey]

Get banned with these 3 simple clicks lava doesnt want you to know about

[vestal delta]

is lava against autoclickers? seems like something he'd be ok with

[rustic garnet]

it's bannable

[vestal delta]

oh interesting

[rustic garnet]

Hurray, still absolute dirt peasant class!

[muted bramble]

this emote :

[dapper prism]

Prego grump

[vestal delta]

is there a TOS list somewhere?

[zealous niche]

The anticheat means you lose the ability to interact with others (e.g. dungeons) and they don’t see you anymore

[vapid wraith]

It's in #server-rules

[dreamy merlin]

anyone wanna fight doot rq we need archer in cookie 12

[rustic garnet]

I'll not touch doot again

[vestal delta]

ah i glossed that 😂 thanks

[vapid wraith]

Same, never realized.

[twin token]

Is there a sailing guide somewhere

[opaque sun]

its okay to use your wife to click stuff for you, so just call your auto clicking mouse as your wife

[signal osprey]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[gilded orchid]

not retired anymore?

[lost beacon]

Going after Eldritch is like going out to the bars and trying to get laid. You keep doing it over and over again unsuccessfully thinking the next time is gonna be different. At least that's my luck with both.

[signal osprey]

Kinda? I didn't actually fully quit i just got lazy

Don't think that the next time will be different and then you won't be nearly as disappointed

Thats the secret to sailing

[lost beacon]

Doot is the secret to sailing

[signal osprey]

That would help too yeah

[opaque sun]

and you get laid suddenly when not expecting

[signal osprey]

You live a more eventful life than I do

[lost beacon]

I'm trying to start a career in Doot rap for my Idleon audience

Free procs to cooking, sailing, and refining. I got Doot, while you're crying.

holy shit

Eldritch Fury finally. Got laid.

Comedic timing

[long pilot]

printing rate, active gods, mobs be dying

[lost beacon]

It cost a whole paycheck without even trying

[past gale]

my bank account hurts, slammed my credit card on the table

my father left me cuz i was mentally disabled

[signal osprey]

That took a turn that I simply was not prepared for

[pulsar heart]

cant click on this guy

so sad

[signal osprey]

Yesh any tower placed behind the pyramid can't be sold or upgraded. It just kinda screws your run

[solid python]

oh cool im over 100% now finally yay

[lost beacon]

Anyone else low key wish the Pyramid was a Chess piece?

[sharp wind]

is there a max level on stamp?

or its continous till we dont have enough capacity?

[solid python]

?

the crystals turned back on lol

and started dealing damage again all of a sudden and my attacks were missing

is that a thing

rip

[signal osprey]

Probably not a good idea to be active farming on a map that you can't survive on

Also probably not a good idea to active farm on BB in general

[solid python]

i wasnt i just killed one by accident

i was going for afk