#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ
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just after an hour each time
any recommendations?
Base stats good
The nutto in W1 on the right side from walking sticks node
what do the gold nuggets do?
y-you have two secret classes?
Cap good
OH! And it also buffs your other characters' skills too!! Like at lv75 it reduces the damage reduction of the purple energy ball from 25% to 15%
the gold nugs are a direct multiplier to your gaming bits
at certain levels it also buffs your DK, SB, and even your Vman!
it matters a lot
The one in tower defense room right, if you asking about chow zow, yes it counts. But I don't think it counts for death note
Maybe I should go audit my death note%
Wait what. Where are people killing nuttos then?
afk gains prints and multikill is better i think but only afk gains showing now so its your choice if to save or not
.......let's not talk about this....
there are upper romm and lower room the lower room is the tower defence and the upper one is the normal
Yeah those are great too. Just mentioned some good ones that they had at 0
I'm not following the context
Hold the fudge up. Brb.
Portal unlock i guess?
Were you killing the nuttos below...
i was getting ready for cultists when i had to stop for some others things so i still need to get back to it at some point
Context #bug-reports-π message
should i talent reset and get rid of the far left skill?
yea
...............yes
no keep one in it
its the quickest adn i've only been doing it for tasks for now
Lmao
don't have time to do more
hmm great answer
If you wanna farm kill count
literally don't have cards from d2/3 yet 
I'm going to go get my Vman now
so at least the upgrade effect still activates
True
Does the green god bonus affect divinity gains too?
ppl were complaining that it isnt good
if your checking chests in more then 24h then yes otherwise it isnt worth it
Why wouldn't it be? Without it if the loot pile is full it just stops
if you check actively enough
should I always trade this guy?
i thought you meant it like, "yea, w1?" 
FINALLY
when you are up one one of them, as costs scale large quick
Just be wary of deals that are too good
you can also get an artifact that increases the amount of gold he gives you
w5 gun when
not always since its better to use it upgrade your boats but yes it is worth using it when you unlock farer islands
ahh okay so always try and upgrade boats first
w5 breeds first
so when that when kattlecurk release
Getting stronker
u'r gonna wanna wait till you get the gold for gold option
.....?

It happened once as a bug
Tldr lava fucked up, people exploit, lava punish
I had a feeling it was a bug
what kind od punishment
ban
mfw the divine knight was really good for it but i just realized this one is level 5 chopping hahahaha
Random FYI, Just a reminder that talking specifically about exploits with details is against rule 4.
no one benefited from the bug
so close to 4th boss
There's a level of stupid I can never recover from. I'm happy to say halfway to 12m gmush kills
you can't use candies in w5?
If no one can do them anymore they are no longer exploits...right?
Correct, cant use candies in the highest world, so if/when we get w6, w5 will work but w6 won't
how do i end dungeon early
oh
cant spawn boss cant cut tree no enemies left
what do you mean cant cut tree?
dont have plat axe
you need plat axe to cut tree in dg
oh... I didnt know
i forgot
why is the atom cost so much higher ? shouldnt it be 11 atoms ?
well if you don't mind losing what you got in the dungeon... close the game
Nawh it's also based on the tier of bubble. higher bubbles cost a lot more
Atom cost is not 1/10m resources, it also has a multiplier depending on how far in the bubble is
Yeh, issue is people think just because you get 1 atom per 10m resource that each 10m resource should be 1 atom in alch.
guess i gotta produce alot more atoms 
Also focus on other bubbles π
that bubble is hella good though
happens do it for next time
First aincent relic found
i was lucky to get the sailing speed first π
now been 2 weeks with 17 boats on fury but stil no ancient 
Gratz, just be sure to get the tusk from island 1 π
Cube brothers
You spread your gold hampters accross all characters while using sailing bubble (or companion now) and even omni?
Also remember to not use SB talent
no omni right now no doot, but i got the sheep so all bubbles, and getting tons of procs from it just out of luck so far i guess. i dont use sb talent and have about 150 hampters on all π
Remember to give your warris more hampters than others
how does the fart cloud work? It says it deals damage but... is it the fart? the poison?
Gimme!

I have spare sheepβs when trading comes out
that a good call i think i have 500 golden hampters on bubo wasted
yea i got 2more sheeps too, if doot didnt exist id love that update, also 2x unlink is great
Reason warris get more gold hampters is due to warri talent 10, +35% gold food bonus
oh... right....... ................................OH RIGHT I FORGOT ABOUT THE 2X UNLINK!!!
You also got the sailing PO box on all already?
Another " i havent reached it yet, just curious" question.
Does the helium in the atom collider also boost the orb/portal/plundering bonus given by DK/ES/SB?
?
breaking above 200, going for 300 when i get more money T.T
It says resource
what do you mean?
my PO ihas been neglected π I should really put my dk to work, also still need some more obols.... actually ill do that right now
Post office = PO boxes, check the sailing + gaming ones (if u have them unlocked
Didn't real properly again >.>
I have.... uh...... divinity
idk
Damn i still have 0 troll, what difficulty do you do?
will have to check
i think i was just doing 100 normals to get the cards after that a few nm, doing w4 colo gets u tons of keys
Speaking of Atom collider, huge tip for Boron (the one that increases atoms attempts in alchemy). The # of times u have available per day, every upgrade on boron will reset that counter back to full, so don't upgrade/use it if u havnt spent your daily attempts yet
U do pen grind then just roll for colo tickets to complete orders like that for more colo tickets?
i dont, im not doing active dk much rn, the problem is i dont have choco chip π¦ my po is really bad
Awh okay, yeh choco chip is strong strong π¦
Is there any good way to get gems besides money
bosses on 1 key mode
u can get 500 + free gems per week
How good is it?
check giffy bits video on youtube
That was months ago so I was wondering if it was outdated
Merit 2 upgrade was like 56% chance for a gem per boss kill.
But you also get a ton of keys back each time you kill a boss, 40% from merit 1
ill wait till lava has says something about the update in case we get some method of converting gems or idk what. if nothing happens ill roll a few more chips, have 3 k gems atm π
id say 99 % still true
Doubt it would be blue gems as it would defeat the whole purpose of green gems.
One thing i wish and could see happening is new ways of obtaining green gems maybe (or just flat out extra draw attempts)
yes you are probably right, wont hurt to wait another week though
this is literally the worst achivement ever, i call total BS on his own 38k highscore
It was rough, but I got there
38k could be in his actual engine without lag/freeze frames like everyone experiences in the actual game
Once I unlock w5 and poing I will not give up until I get that achievement
doubt
We will see
its just too slow and unresponsive
yea or becouse hes the dev he just removed the opponents paddle untill 35k
wooops guess my bubo just rolled
nice π
Time to disable that as you'll be getting a ton of them with bubo xD
pretty useless though π¦
+1 slab
is it the only thing i can gain from that or anything else ?
but yeh, after that just toss it, use lucky lads on your alts ig
Only thing
The text even says "you win a trophy" xD
i got lucky lads filtered now as well, when u get at a certain stage of the game you'll find one in a million drops arent that rare anymore π
Do auto even use roll da dice
yes
yes, but remember abilities are cast from left to right
yes and bubo rolls it alot
Ik
tenteycle also affects the roll cooldown
yup, so bubo with the star talent somewhere at the front will spam you with the trophies xD
this is so painfuly slow, i hope he reduces the amount we need of these w6. i could leave my es active 24/7 for months
god yes..
hopefully he does a scale down like with the pearler shells
for w4 tools
who does this lol
lol yah
And hopefully he fixes the cheese crumbs number... he fat fingered and made it 10m instead of 1m for magma gear
fat fingered π€£
That just means you are grinding hampters way early..
best use for killroy skulls?
probably, im going half way i just put my bubo there after i saw how little my es is getting over night. atleast im getting some alch gain at the same tim
i use books / refinery depending on wwhat i need. if u dont have th 1k book achievement its probably best
I like using it for books
refinery is barely a skip
depends, but i find candies always a good spend
i just candied w1 deathnote and im probably gonna do it for w2 and w3 also tbh
i want ||vman||
Books 100% until you hit 1k book achievement
theres also to say something for eggs if u need more grey cells quick
then after the 1k, still books to hit 20x book count easier, always use it at like 14 to 18 books to hit the 20. to maximize time saved
what does that mean
killroy is a 95% for 1-2h candy and only 5% for 4h candy
i think i did es for most of it but candied the 12 mil
this yellow:
https://i.imgur.com/hmm9yZ9.png
think u can maximize ur candy from giant at start of weekly even more by using DK active on reset day/night
i would have liked some halloween candy
candies always f2p
ok i dont know new stuff
candies used to take forever to get
are there any simple damage/multikill boosts i can get
to speed things up
that i may have missed
bubble(s)
bubbles / cards / stamps
weird card set, MK doesnt affect drops
thats basically the trifectra you always come back to if the question gets raised about doing more kills faster
i just have nothing else to put besides those
more dmg would help more for ES to get further in wormhole
unless i get significant damage boost from 30 extra main stat or something
im candying rn
its a boost but not really significant
if u candy be sure you're on BB for 1m chow/zows
just got 10th char so got it to w5
for deathnote
idk u posted the wormhole one there
oh cuz i tried active and barely any got done
so i was showing how little wormhole kills i had
lol
how about prayers and nobisect link
which is why im candying
Gratz!
idk sounds like your priorities are just way off atm :/
none? why not do some TD then to try unlock some?
thx
will this help the towers below it?
if its very slightly more right, it would hit that one boulder u are on
fireball 11 party 1 kraken 1
eh, couldnt really say for certain
The point is basically around the middle of the tower, think slightly lower than middle
Use royal sampler rn
oooo
for what
Can I have that build rate
for better 3d samples and prints xD
Samples...
Royal sampler is a must use on all characters except maestro/vman
it is additive
oh thats not so bad then
wow
all exp kinda sucks cuz my skills are low but thats fine
It's all always additive
urg
all characters should have all skills at least 8 (or better 15) 8 for iron tools
ES
yeah im working on it i wasnt very good about skilling
play a single catching minigame and you would get it to like level 10
lots of things t odo
10 characters wiuth 100 things each needs
im trying to catch up
that's the charm of the thing, always something to do
Was the candy DN you were doing for vman quest?
large bubble(s) in alch, cards, prayer from w3 totem, nobisect god link, stamps, high damage ( but im one to talk with less than 50M as my max) actual death note for the world the mob is in, salt lick bonus, and im sure im missing some more @solid python
WHATS DN
Death Note
Or close to 30 when he gets the rift bonuses
and ive never done rift yet either
should i do that first
it wasnt out last time i played
Ye prob
Only if you get to rift 16 which is like easy if you have 10m dmg
From what I've heard rift is rlly good
thats more than fine
ok ill go find that and do it first then
Go as much as you can there are a lot of good boosts
also you use more than 1 character
wdym more than 1
there are challanges which are like 'do it on 3 charas'
the quests in rift will require more than 1 character
monka
Rift
Gnakor#9980
For Lava Skull : Play ES/Bubo and hit auto to clear it in a few minutes
Lvl,Task,Mob HP,Bonus unlocked,Monster
1,Defeat 500 Monsters Within 5 Min.,5β―000β―000,slimeG
2,Collect 3 Rift Tear Drops From Mobs Within 60 Minutes.,5β―560β―000,frogG
3,Defeat All Mobs Before They Respawn On 3...
Especially for skills
can i access rift with a character that hasnt cleared all of w4
or will they ahve to make it there
if one has it unlocked all can tp there
Octo
finaly
fnally, more rng
oh lmao
weeks for one arti
Also small tip, some quests like rift 10 or 15 require 200k and 1m afk kills.
What you can do ahead of time then is place your alts there (AFK) to gain kills before you even get to that wave.
So if you know you need 4 good chars to clear some earlier rifts. you use like 4-5 others and toss them into rift. Meanwhile while you are doing all those earlier missions your afk ones (if not logged in) will already stack up kills for those rifts
@solid python
yeah so i literally cannot do it first
because doing like 30 1m is vman quest
to begin with
π
actually I think I can do it in a month
depends on how much i can boost my damage
But that's the issue, you shouldnt really candy on random alts if its not a BB, wasting candy and losing out on chow/zow that BB needs for more laddles. so you'll just have to redo it all later on.
why?
Better on to postpone vman very slightly and catch up on BB for better kph and do it on him imo
Gen chat degenerated so much 
what has idleon-degen-chat done this time?
i was just doing it because mage has the mana heart skill
I only have 3 months and 5 days playing the game so my characters arent too strong atm
and BB has 2x kill skill
faster doesnt help if you have to redo it all again later on bb
does it work for afk too?
oops , forgot there are ppl who havent been playing for years π myb
That's the core reason one uses barb for early worlds xD
indeed, the f2p people just cant wrap their head around that they can just ignore the doggo in W1 town and continue playing as if nothing happened a week ago
I pushed thru with my ES π’
W4-5 push is fine on ES, although w5 i recommend Bubo since that's the only char that needs to reach last zone w5 really
haha I wish I was playing longer
I'll be happy with sheepie or better
oh no way really?
Itβs ignorant to think that it canβt affect them.
It's huge and benefits your progress and doesn't affect anyone else in a world where there is no pvp or real competition
If I get slime I will kill it
true i guess
damn my bubo like lv115 and my ES lv 350
wait does nobisect stack with monster decimator
to make it 4x
or is it 3x
WOW
huge
Bubo will be your CC farmer for alchemy AND tons of money. Best zone is wurms (last zone w5) so the only real one that needs to reach it.
DK etc are all irrelevant to get that high, ES can be fine since some mats like spitfire is needed for making anvil XP go vroom
its litearlly faster on BB then
Took my bubo level 300 to 352 in 4h 8mins. It will go fast xD
ofc it affects everyone, but i dont have the long vision on all what is going to happen next. i enjoy the game and still do with or without doot
inactive would have been 35 days btw
How good is first w5 enemy for xp
Yeah, Iβm enjoying the game with a worried eye on the horizon
Amazing, at least 3-8x better than last zone w4. and 2nd, 3rd zone increases each time by at least 50% xD
Much better than any w4 if you have the progression to kill them well
So once I get w5 I can lvl my characters with ease
W4 last zones were around 10-20m xp/h
W5 zone 1 was around 80-140m xp/h
W5 zone 2 was around 200-300m xp/h
etc.
still I dont blame a guy for trying to get paid for the product he is pushing either, even though i totally agree it could have been a lot more nuanced
all subject to your kph, but also keep in mind, with maxed crystal chance and active xp, you will get like 100-200x the xp rate
wow. I should expect my bubo to lvl up fast as well
but I just need to give him good armor
and weapon
just move armor to whomever u active
try and get multiple chizoar armor suits
bubo spear/ glove only
1 for each stat
ok my vman needs some MASSIVE help on damage, advice?
Luck, alchemy, more luck, better armor with w5 enchant
Damage stat since acc isn't as much of a prob right?
get more skill level or massive luck
for SB, DK, and Mage right
vman is not for damage, keep him for skilling
For chiz, yeh, you should be maxed on Acc soon into w5
sweet I got a new prayer
I somehow got my vman from 1b to 10b dmg in like 2 weeks xD
nice!
i mean, yeah i get that but this is abysmal
And you can't speedrun with bad damage
I forgot which bubble but one of the dmg bubbles in orange/green/purple that are class specific actually all work on vman afaik
keep in mind that his multihit does not show in that calculation, so effectively he will do more damage than shown
u mean dis
i dont have too many points sadly
If you have king doot, does anyone need to be uploaded to the lab past level 75? Seems like they wouldn't right?
good that it does my bubo aint using anything but fists
then get some books xD
wdym books
div progress only works with goat/bear IF in lab.
even then vman always performs much better afk than active, keep in mind his kills do not show up on deathnote either so killing on vman is purely and only for leveling and crystal farming
skilling mastery from rift, maybe? level 1,000 everything xD
just bubo dmg
I still recommend getting all characters to 80+ div first (through lab, goat) for all the free game/sailing bottles
Does the kattlecuk sailing bonus from his chaotic card stack if I just give it to every charatcxer?
no its passive
No it's passive
Ah right, that quest. Got it, thanks
Passive cards dont need to be worn
Oh! I didn't know that. Thanks. :O
tru for some other cards too
a lot more cards when you get to rift 16 π
Your name makes me think of Zurich, Switzerland π
Auto-Correct thinks that a lot too.
Getting everyone to a t75 (or even t90) weapon some time, shouldnt take long to grind tbh.
Remember to buy Dense water in alchemy shop DAILY!!!
Should I just try to get a vman? my mman like lv157.
and all my other characters are less than lv 117 except my ES which is 350
I have everyone on divinity (lv18 divinity)
how many do u buy every day before u think it is too expensive? just curious
depends if u run bubo or not. but usually easily until cost is around 9 or 11. Else with bubo i get cost to like 500+ xD
nice, yea i always basically buy 12 a day
Question.. if doot keeps all divinities active, isnβt your ability to gain lab xp permanently off?
these half way digs are the worst
whats the best class to use in dungeon? I've been using DK
not really, they will get exp if they are actually active in the tube
dk is best imo
DK is great, a risky one but great too is ES due to the super high dmg from lightnings, but mana can be a huge issue that DK doesnt have as an issue
that means u need to have them actually uploaded in the network
ahh okay I'm going to give ES a try.
i've always used DK
So. We the endgamers now?
ofcourse
Make sure you get slab progress on all
not many left i declare you endgamer if u are 46 rift
is slab progress started automatically?
Like Crowley in supernatural. He was a mid ranking demon but everybody above him left
Even Lucifer
good omens miment
somewhat but issue with DG is if u level weapon too much u cant get lower weapons
https://www.idleonefficiency.com/account/slab
tony is not here to fight me when i claim engame is rift 46
yes, right from the start of W1 it starts register everything u pick up
oh shoot
I think it changed to auto fill lower weapons when you pick up a bigger one
See above ^ (source - read it on here)
some people say it, but some people also still havnt gotten the earlier ones and said theyve tried it, so either bugged or idk, still not worth the risk
if u haft rift its just troll + int / mana + skill afk + food
i want that 5 star food π¦
Thx but I want to sample tho
I'll use it when not sampling
If u have pets its just every card?
Btw the hour glass how much % it gives at 5 stars?
18%
Man, im stupid, I just realized that idleon have a sound
.........................
whoever play with sound on is psychopath
How many characters do endgame players keep in lab for bonuses?
I heard that the endgame player normally have 6 player in lab
1 of each class and vman out?
i have 5 and 1 bear god linked , i just keep them doing nothing tho
No, I mean the endgame player only need 6 character to get all the lab bonuses, it doesn't matter what the class is
Ty
Usually archers are out of lab since they cant really print particles
ok i did a little work and the result is
keep SB and BB doing dn the others sleep in lab 
But if you want to lab level its better to put bubo on lab with other players because bubo have a talent that increases exp gain
people in w1 with doot are endgamers now
or only helm for blunder skills completion
Yeah lol, it's so p2w
to be endgamer in term , get doot
Doot is the answer for everything
its used to be alchemy 
alchemy backs up the value of doot like how gold backs up the value of bank notes
How much afk rate do tou get with decent leveled div from doot again? 30 from snek and 4per character from goat?
How long does w4-w5 usually take without candy
why cant we use upgr. stones on this 
It's depend on your kill per hour
W5 cant candy anyway
I'm just wondering the average
But tokito want to go through w4 not w5
dont think ill be able to finish all this with candy alone lol
why is his damage so low :(
For more kills if you have multi kill use the mk prayer. But your damage really is low
w4 is a slow progress thing since you cant get all gem or elso chip at once 
Maybe ill spend the weekend spamming new accs. If i get a doot maybe ill just prestige
It's hard to say, maybe a few week if your character kill per hour is around 2k
Could be month
Instead of spending 3 weeks to push with weak stats, its better to focus buffing yourself for 2 weeks and push in 1 week
is it more optimal to craft main stat onto weapon or acc stat
I know
or is it not based on character but the weapon itself
so it will just get str no matter what
Buff yourself like make new acc until you get Doot for 2 weeks And then play for 1 week.
400IQ
Youβll get enough acc anyways so Iβd just go with main stat
Are you world 4 or 5?
no news?
5
Get the merit shop star talent, easy fix for majority of acc problems
which one
The news are he agrees with his actions. He doesnt like the backlash and tries to minimalize it.
the all stat?
Yeah, each merit point gives 30 max level
So 30 of the acc stat and others ofc
For the rest shaquaracy
just put your pusher on it
dont have one
Canβt take more than a day or two
Put bubo on it then
its just weird cuz i basically havent played since like w4 release
so a lot of stuff is mixed up
Active I did in about 9-10 days but I had candy for last 2 mobs so maybe 14 days?
Short on accuracy and you've made scythe? Jesus π―
alchemy solves your problems my friend
usually not worth stoning off-stats for accuracy
do we get an 11th char
It's worth early but not by the time you get scythe
Just go main stat and raise shaquracy bubble a bit
Mines lower than this, cards are huge.
kids these days skip shaquracy and fmj boosting phase
With your move speed it doesnt do anything for accuracy
oh its 200%
i only have 175
unlucky
ok i equipped chips
looking a little better
why do you even need to push through w5. Its not like you can farm enough mats for the w5 stamps
first time getting this but the stats arent that good
i dont need to i was just using w5 as acc example
i would like to get the w5 board open
starting w5 is insane acc boost
at least
lol i got the same one today while helping a new player out, but instead of 5% def it was 3% total dmg π
Getting the W5 board open with BB is not the one
Any case, just fall back and build up via other bonuses like alchemy and such
nice, what the max % these can get?
Combat phase can wait
ok but my other characters acc not really higher anyway
only 0 damage mman with like 60k acc lmao
π
no need to open the board, its enough to start divinity and gaming/sailing
i liked pushing few zones into w5 with all for extreme XP to have enough talent points to max out sail/game/div bonuses on 2nd sb/dk/es π
as for those i think im doing ok
W5 town is good, but not much reason to push (open portals) in w5
ya you will not even really be able to push w5 first map with a rushed acc
is this just the divinity points or the exp as well?
Div gain is just the offering pts
if I'm using mantra theres no point right
Div exp specifically says div exp
Mantra produces no offering pts so no point atm, but its not like you got anything else better to upgrade by skipping that
Camp level 10 stance Focus, all the way, best thing until at least goat or even omni/purrmep
hmm some person said to do mantra on everyone until im 40something divinity
mantra x goat in lab for a week is insane gains
Progressing offering points at the same time kind of important too
Nawh, you care about goat, get goat,
Gods > XP
all done here
only time pts is better is at level 60 div

you will easily get to goat or even purrmep with focus stance WAY before getting close to those levels
I did like 3-4 who focused on self xp/offering, and few mantra, and active farming stuff
Small basic div guide i wrote earlier that's best imo. Coming from someone who did mantra+vitalic.
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
Even doing mantra+vitalic i still didnt have the XP really needed to get anything good and just shot myself in the leg by more than halfing my god progress speed.
will check it out
woups replied to wrong person xD
ok i was about to say cuz i have all that done already haha
so i was a little confused
π
should I just put everyone on focus? I'm around lv17 div on 8 characters
Imo yes, since lvl 25 is still only 2pts/h instead of 4
Or just do a mix if not sure
i put all on mantra until they get vitalic because they are like level 23 so
just gonna rush it
and move them all onto it
Push for gods, that's what you care about, XP won't help or do anything. go for XP later when you have a better multiplier
Self buff div style can net more total exp if you consider the double exp claim doesnt apply to the shared exp
yeh, mantra doesnt benefit from double exp claims
mantra is nice later on when you are near finished divinity but want to raise the general div level of the family for minor link bonus
vitalic is lvl 25? or is it a god
ahh okay ima switch everyone to focus then
i barely have nobi
Definitely unlock gods is higher priority at that stage
Coming from someone who min-maxes,
I did the mantra->vitalic stuff then realized how bad it is compared to pushing for the gods you actually need/want that will help you a ton, even like goat.
Like even if you do vitalic, what benefit does that give you? none , the XP does nothing really and your xp multiplier will be minimal. meanwhile you were getting less than half the pts the whole time.
All that XP won't benefit you till 60 which would take forever at base exp multi.
- Get Gods, focus on points.
- When you have a proper Exp multi, you can change to exp to push for 60 or 80 for proper gains.
E.g. this is my multiplier now:
||https://i.imgur.com/ypCH6g5.png||
Remember to disable all mob HP boosting prayers and equip the insect deity before doing your void run!
this protip brought to you by forgetfulness
Speaking of Div
Does anyone have any alts that are any of these divinity levels, 2, 3, 4, 24, 32, 35, 37, 44, 46 or 48 to 55? xD
If yes, please let me know what the total xp is to the next level
If doing a sample run, there is an option to use snake too
I even reached my old portal high score with midas and no insect ><
isnt it on wiki? unfortunatelyi dont:(
Nope, div formula is missing, i am pretty close to having it all though π¦
Or feed chatgpt with current numbers and make it extrapolate the missing numbers 
Half of the case it just gives you BS numbers pretending to did its calculation
is this worth saving for ? my bubble income is pretty low maybe 100 per day not sure... can i see atom / day somewhere on toolbox ?
yea maybe 15
The atom is great, but if you're only getting 100 atoms a day thats not worth it at all yet xD
Lv1 fluoride of 15 meals is like negligible i cant see the difference boost
pretty sure it was multiplicative and very good?
Yes flouride is good, but at his point with only 15 meals and barely able to raise lv1
Lvl 1 is kinda weak. It gets stupid really fast with all 30+
Like vmanβs marrow. Its good at the end, but doesnt do much early on
Guess it's also differnet now that we also have vman cooking talent
And both together is pretty nuts
ok nvm my atom gain is more like 1300 per day lol my math is bad + printer brr
even then not worth waiting a week, get more oak π¦
I have one on level 35. It takes 1,39k Exp to get to the next level.
how does the "New" increase? lol
1.01^15 is not worth saving 99 days of atom
shaman talent
well it would be more lik a week now i think
Should I work on zows/chow/deathnote once I get w5
fuck i hate it i deleted my log print by accident π
daaauuum
Week worth of particles just to get flouride still suggests there might be other stuff you want to use particles on
funny how we get such a different multiplier lul
yea u are probably right
Mhm this is on my DK
https://i.imgur.com/jKF2nDz.png
is the cooldown for the next free pet serverwide?
for doota2, doot would be basically balanced 
when you first claimed your free pet I think
reeeeeeee
Yay right before bed:
https://i.imgur.com/Lvc0b7v.png
Filling up the gaps:
https://i.imgur.com/2FtK4iC.png
No lamp?
Didn't need it initially because my atoms were always low xD
Currently going for Socrates though, seems like an amazing impact, then lamp with that team
anyways, off to bed, good night!
gn
Man. I just wante to check in for a second: eld fury from normal chest....
I have it so I can only get the second chest+
If your income is low then you're probably better off going for the increased tower levels, and the NBLB buff
Is it possible to use candy to get elephant procs?
Does siege breaker skill "expertly sailed" and/or "captain peptalk" stack in effect? Meaning if i level the skill on 2 siege breakers i get double the effect?
I believe no
ok
Hey !
Is there anywhere a formula for the chance of getting an ancient form artifact ? Or is it the same value as the basic form ?
Whats the fastest way to level "Archlord of the Pirates" a skill from the siege breaker?
Level as in fastest way to get plunder kills?
yes
Killing citringes probably fastest for kill count. but tremor wurms isnt that far behind on kills, but better class exp
When noob learn stinger is mostly used by bb in endgame:
And that im assuming you can easily one shot tremor wurms and damage isnt the issue
Or any melee weapon. Stinger has slight more damage and stat stone slots
Alc bubble do stinger and wand weapon power
So yeah
I still dont ser diff between farming on my dk and my bb as active farming
See*
Aside from cranium cooking
theoretical best is give magma gloves before making it wizard, then level the tab3 flask talent to raise overclocker energy max levels, then swap wiz to bubo
ye
There's no way it is
if youre insane enough
That means no skilling
can happen
At all
issue is by the time bubo farming was done, people already had all 10 characters
those are basically only for getting tranqi
Its real easy to do on 10th
Like level beginner and easily level to magma glove level
also, that feeling when you pop a cactus and it gets you a t6 plant 
growth cycle time?
and are you using elephants
hm
yea
Iβve popped a ton of logs and chems too
Yeah elephant on all 10 with gaming bubble active on everyone
snail recovery period well spent
Wish I had a snail
I'm right after sampling, and I wonder what I should be pursuing next... Should I level up any specific player? Should I focus trying to get the best weapons I currently am able to?
probably expect 1-2 weeks on avg for each
sampling hardly cares of class level
Does anyone have a t7 yet?
but honestly you probably shouldn't be farming t6s at this stage
too expensive in bits i think
for the upgrade
I am talking about sampling since I am not linked to any god at the moment
I mean thereβs not too much to farm for
snail?
meaning you dont really need to raise anyoneβs class levels
keep doing teh incrementals
Ayo. Snail produces mail without having to log in
try for chem if you don't have it etc
just keep going on the fertilzer ones and shell then
Iβm just pretty fresh account so I donβt have a lot of base bit upgrades
its 7% multiplicative each time
Then what? Should I try to drop anything specific? Like begginer's weapon?
for fert base amount inc
don't 
farm stuff like alchemy bubbles and such
the incrementals are way more imp than t6s
But I want nugget
esp if you don't have 20
Class level itself doesnt really help with progress as its just talent pts
Certain things does scale with highest class lvl
ah gotcha so you didn't even have 20 t5s or were you doing hybrid
yea gotcha
Im not saying it doesnt do anything, but for his objective of more samples, class level is like mid or low priority
anyways, i would just harvest all and go for upgrading the incrementals
t5s are relatively easy to grow back

And we have no clue what buffs you lack so cant really specify what to do
Iβve already waiting a week 
just do t6s when your snail inevitably resets
Lmaooo
Okay okay
Working on alchemy is usually the answer for most
You need the enhanced flag from vman as well to get decent plunderous kills
ill be sleeping, but i expect you to show topbird a pic of your empty garden
My question got buried earlier, is it possible to get elephant procs from candy afk time?
No
else people would be 1hr candy clicker game
I was wondering if I was slow on joining the candy crusher fad
Iβll get more t6 later 
im not too fond of that demon face pic as it takes lot of vertical space with not much context
Holy shit get all ur elite class
I beg of you
Since w5 opening getting them is insanely fast
Getting them now means having to pay to change them later for the new classes coming
Yeah no way am I getting all my elite classes if I'll have to pay later
Also they're permanently stuck in lab anyway
who says they'll be changing
no one knows if he is gonna fork them or not
ignore what the wiki has for it's 'branching'
that was all datamine ages ago and doesn't really mean much
if it branches, lava got lot of swaps to give out
yea
Seems like new classes to me. Either way, Lava did say way back when elite classes came that we should only get 1 of each if we wanted to be able to get all. I know people ignored it etc. and got multiple, but I think that's the only official statement we have on the matter
i guess lava will just abadon game before those classes come
he haven't said anything after giving p2w update
and he banned many people for talking bad about game
New classes, if they ever happen, will more than likely bring new character slots or free class change tokens
True, I guess I was thinking of that discussion with the mindframe I had last time it came up
immature dev
That would be a bummer for those of us who waited because we listened to him
If you think somebody would abandon a secure revenue stream like that then I don't know what to tell you
Didn't he say something along the lines of don't make more than 2?
So don't make more than 2 of each elite. I imagine you're in a stupidly small minority who aren't taking elite classes for 8 9 10
as it gimps your progress
after all hate and most whales quit 
Copium
"Most whales quit", just because people type online that they are whales, and that they are quitting, does not mean either of those things are true
Someone here has completed thΓ© secret quests? For w2 npc
Well, at this point, after this long, I'm sticking to my decision to wait until we know for sure
People will say anything online to get attention, especially when they are angry
It was discussed in gen chat a few months ago and the general consensus was anything over Β£30-Β£40 was Whaling so if you read anything on this discord about Whales quitting it's severe Copium.
It is... but I need swap token 1st.
Does seem likely that he will milk the rest of the community until he can make more money from making a new game though
I need 2 tokens for barbarian and alchemic
Is that 30 or 40 total or like a month?
And that's a 1000 gems
The discussion was total.
Wow lol according to idle efficiency im down about $1100 USD
It was a crazy conversation.
i spend about 400$
I've watched a few vidocs about F2P over the years and "whales" can range from spending as little as Β£5 to spending literally any money at all. The bar is much, much lower than most people might think
Like if you buy a Dota 2 standard edition Battlepass once for Β£9 or whatever then you are already a whale by Valve's metric
This is pretty much where the conversation went. Autoloot was deemed acceptable but buying the Riftwalker pack was mega whaling
Anything over $5 put you in Whale category, which is wild.
that is called dolphin
It makes sense in a game like Idleon, other than autoloot everything else is very easily accessible via normal game progression
That's all just semantics though, I think when most people talk about whales, they talk about the people who would spend atleast 200 bucks just on an update like this one
Guys has anyone hère done w2 secret treasure hunt?
That's only because as inhabitants of the Idleon discord we are much more likely to have spend some amount of money on the game, so our bar for "whale" is a bit higher
I'm pretty sure there are videos on yt that goes through them
But the vast, vast majority of Idleon players have never and will never spend a penny on the game
Not my question though
Have you done them?
Not really a w5 question
no
Yeah Well no other Worlds answered so i figured someone in w5 would have done it already
I wanna know if i Can actually complet them or if i need w4 or w5 to do it
I have done it years ago, I won't be able to answer your follow up though
Dont wanna waste my Time if i only half finish em
yeah i have, just follow the videos on YT doesn't take too long
Well the video would literally answer your question
Nobody here is going to tell you anything that the video won't
you have been answered, no need for combativeness.
Is it just me or that dootchan dude is pretty good at the game
I just know doot makes you good at the game
It gives a good bonus but doesnβt make you good
helps you if you are good
pardon my joke
You can check this? Where this at
whales don't play dead games
less players=less whales
depends on the game, I think at a point they can have attachment because of the amount of money they've spent
the money is used on things whales can show off if there are no players the whales won't care
Depends on the size on the anime boobs
true and real
even then the popular games still have the most whales
hello people i don't usually see on this channel
anyone can commission a png but whales want it because it gives them prestige
all the w5 players left .-.
i'll still watch
D/w im still here
soon to leave*
Gimme ur hat i missed it
jk
these?
i wonder if lava is gonna do the same thing as w3 thou and just not do anything for 6 months
yep
I assume u dont have a stance
where do you see this?
bloodbornes
yup, just remembered too. thanks!
Is 200 atom particles an hour good?
King doot map obviously
no, but for starters, yes. its a good start to have that amount till you get more samples
What bubbles should I use the particles on? Currently im using them for 1. and 2. bubbles on mage and warrior
Getting close to first 1 bil 
you want to get laaarrryyy to 700 for starters. but it costs damn much
Wait u can use particle in alchemy?
ye
Wtf
after you unlock boron
atomo collider bonus
Oh
The atom
LOL
Yeah idk I unlocked the collider turned it off and moved on with my life
It's extremely good
once a mat gets to 1050m it auto converts atoms, you dont need to turn it on
My mats aint at that point sir
once you work on your sampling, its gonna be easy. particularly oak ones
if i get a recipy before i unlock the level of anval, if i claim it will i just loose it?
so work on your wis bubbles that give chopping gains.
it stays til you unlock the tab
cool so it will still "claim it"
yes it will register on your anvil even if you dont have the tab yet
im just checking ebcause i got a 1 in 50,000,000 adept recipe
that the knuckles one?
level 5 anvil and i havnt even got 4 yet
I have x5 my oak sampling sampling copper
Sugma balls
lucky son of a 
i wasnt even trying for it π
you just gotta focus on that samples, it will give you good amount of atoms in the long run
desire sensor strikes again
how many kills?
will the shiny companions drop today? i think it has been a week since last update and he said ther will be a update in a week
28670
wtf
I just hit 100m DN with no recipe
I hardly believe it's a thing


