lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[paper sail]

Farming Amarok cards manually shouldn't be that bad.

[lyric sequoia]

9% stats isn’t gonna do much if you only have 5000 main stat

[sacred verge]

yeah, id be happy to pay 30 bucks for it in shop tbh. thats a sum i could live with

[prisma drift]

Man I’ve got like 5 camarok cards at once

Don’t 4 star it

[agile pagoda]

yeah you can get good amount of cards in a single run with Vman

[prisma drift]

That wasn’t with vman either lol

[agile pagoda]

imagine

[paper sail]

CChiz bugged for me and gave me 5star on the first card drop with Vman lul

[prisma drift]

Jealous

[agile pagoda]

WHAT?!

[paper sail]

Pretty much all bosses were giving me 4 or 6 cards per run though, was nice

[prisma drift]

I grinded Ctroll to 3 star to cardifier it to 5 star

Now I gotta do that to NChiz

[lyric sequoia]

Until you hit troll, then his card rate is “no”

[paper sail]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dense python]

sadge, should i still buy it

[fiery mason]

depends on ur other lads

[prisma drift]

Man my guys are all like 9% loot value/ 7% cloud discover rate

Have had a good captain in 2 weeks

[fiery mason]

i like my captains speedy

[prisma drift]

I could actually hit the last islands with a captain like that

Last two islands are too far to reasonably grind

[paper sail]

Nah

[fiery mason]

i have everyone except the fastest still on ancient fury grind 😦

[prisma drift]

Meant for my speed

I have 3m speed on my best boat

Then like 3 2m and the rest are 1m

[paper sail]

Ah. Yeah that's still slow

[prisma drift]

Yeah slow as heck

Last island takes days haha

[fiery mason]

lol all of mine are very slow but fastest is 12 mil

nxt best is 1 mil i think

[paper sail]

My fastest is way above island 15 in min time, but second fastest still way under

The curse of converting for gold bars. Just ripping speed from other boats to slap on the first boat instead.

383m vs 76m. I need to shift captains around lol

[true obsidian]

hmmm....Lava math build different...

[cosmic spear]

Whats the 10M thing in storage for?

[true obsidian]

+%money, +%damage

[sacred verge]

greenstacks in only for dmg afaik

[cosmic spear]

What is it coming from? I don't recall it

[covert rover]

lab

[low snow]

Lab

[cosmic spear]

ahh thank you!

[shrewd coral]

I have all 10 deities. What are god ranks and why is mine still 0

[oak rose]

God ranks are what you can spend divinity points on after unlocking all 10 gods

there's a ES talent that gives you a damage bonus for god ranks

[shrewd coral]

So I spend 52mil Divinity pts for 25% at 1 rank?

[true obsidian]

god rank start to count when you get 11th god

[oak rose]

there's nothing else to spend divinity points on atm, so you can do what you like

thinking of each god rank as 11th, 12th god etc is a good way to put it

[zenith fiber]

Lava didnt even bother giving the last 2 bonus's.
Was to concerned with money

[shrewd coral]

I've only just hit Divinity lv80 on 1 char. That's gonna be ages.

[oak rose]

divinity is one of the most idle aspects... easy to manage but also pretty boring lol

[low snow]

God rank also gives damage through es but i dont know how significant it is

[zealous niche]

Well, if you spam yes you will get banned purely for undermining the point of this chat

[shrewd coral]

So the companion bonuses are all active when you Have them unlocked? Not just the 1 you have equipped?

[weary hinge]

yes just keep 1 type always on your storage

[zealous niche]

Please go to general channel at least @fierce basalt

[low snow]

Hes there too

Just checked

[zealous niche]

Bleh

Juvenile handling of discomfort here

[low snow]

All chats to be precise

Mods seem to pull a lava here

[zealous niche]

Well, I’ve reported them to discord for spam

[low snow]

https://tenor.com/view/money-breaking-bad-sleep-on-money-lay-on-money-money-pile-gif-5382667

[weary hinge]

he gon muted nao.

[hexed crescent]

Still radio silence?

[weary hinge]

yeah, still on waiting game

[hexed crescent]

Had a feeling this is how it would go down. People aren't spamming this chat with outraged comments. Now we're all just gonna gradually forget about all this and move on.

[pulsar cliff]

Eh, the old guard left. This channel by default is just quieter now since they're gone.

[sacred verge]

quite a bit more than the "old guard" who left

the channel is quit cus alot of ppl cant bother

ppl only come by to check if there has been any words or statements now

[hexed crescent]

Seems like the outrage is really dying out between those who are left though

[bright current]

only so many people can leave a review

is kinda what happened i think

new players arent seeing this, they are finding a silly little idle game

[sacred verge]

i think ppl just moved on, they cant be bothered to even leave a rewiev

[bright current]

looks to me like they could be bothered

[sacred verge]

they was yes

but they aint coming back to leave reviews

[bright current]

tthey the left the review when they left the game ide argue

[sacred verge]

they left one and then left the game.

[sacred verge]

yes thats what im trying to say

[low snow]

After some time everybody has given the negative review. There arent infinite players after all

[sacred verge]

they aint gonna bother coming back day after day to leave reviews

[opaque sun]

Dont worry, lava will continue to add more fuel to the fire with things like trading and batch 2

[sacred verge]

yeah

[low snow]

Hopes to that trading will be such a trash fire that doots get duped and everyone gets one

[sacred verge]

tbh it looks like the few of us still here are just naive thinking it will improove

[bright current]

im not

im here to shitpost

[sacred verge]

lol

[paper ingot]

have that many people left, i havent been on in a week or so

[sacred verge]

i dont think i even think it will improve. its more a hope

[opaque sun]

“Too add more thrill to the companion pets, there will be 1% chance the treats be spoiled and all your pets will run away!”

[bright current]

some players left, and a substansial amount of people, a lot of notable people in the community were... escorted out...

[paper ingot]

i guess i did miss something

escorted out of the discord, or the game itself?

[bright current]

discord

[sacred verge]

discord

[bright current]

i havent heard of anyone copping a ban in game

[opaque sun]

discorted out of escord

[sacred verge]

but thats basically the same for those ppl

[zealous niche]

But a lot left the game because of being booted out of discord

[paper ingot]

thats fair

[opaque sun]

Lava cant really ban in game

[paper ingot]

the game has been on a steady decine over the past weeks in my opinion anyway

[bright current]

i mean. he can, if he REALLY took a dislike to someone, he could

[opaque sun]

Unless he makes an update to specifically make certain user name not login

[bright current]

but he'd have to manually sniff out their account

[hexed crescent]

Sooo.. The people left now are compliant sheeps and people who can talk shit about companions without going too far?

[opaque sun]

like he can make any player with “Trucido” no longer login in the new update, but that kills some random guy who just happened to use your name

[bright current]

lets not talk shit about people tbh.

The objective fact is that the update is shit, and the method is extremely scummy.

but some people have a higher tollerance or willingness to it, or dontt care enough about it to engage with it

[bright current]

(thats me)

[opaque sun]

Imagine some Bob pisses off lava in discord, so lava bans all Bob from game. The great bob purge

[hexed crescent]

I was refering to the type of community Lava is trying to create for himself

[near goblet]

and that guy didn't even have a chara named bob in game

[paper ingot]

hes not gonna have one with a few more of these updates

[bright current]

the type on community hes tryna create are whales tryna fight for who can have the mostt doots obviously

[opaque sun]

Doot of Jordan

[zealous niche]

harrassing lava ain’t going to be worth anything just saying

You don’t motivate people by just insulting them

[paper ingot]

whos harrassing him

[hexed crescent]

I don't think so.. Seems to me he is a very vain guy who did this out of spite because people would complain about stuff. I'm sure the money is a nice added bonus for him though

[zealous niche]

Those that have been banned did

[bright current]

I never sait it was, i said dont talk shit about people. I aint never said nothin bout lava (debatably) Im talkin shit about how he behaves

[opaque sun]

W6 bonuses gonna be like “per X number of legendaries held” and “X number of doots recycled”

[bright current]

Example

[paper ingot]

or he ran outa money

[bright current]

idc if i keep reposting it

i aint seein anyone else makin fresh memes

so ur stuck with me

[zealous niche]

Ah yes, character attacks on little to no evidence

Lovely

[cyan granite]

it's been 2 days i left the discord going and ur telling me the "lava is cooking up a fix for this" is still going

[opaque sun]

Runs out of money running way from us, so make more running away material to fund his escape

[vernal depot]

yo guys, how much hp/def to survive hits from the wurmor's map crystal mobs?

[zealous niche]

My theory is lava is beefing up gem security for next update

[zealous niche]

He’s gone radio silent for longer

[bright current]

idk a value. but whatever ur thinkin, double it

[opaque sun]

Dunno maybe like 4000+ def and whatever maxed HP talent

[bright current]

I thought i could handle em when i first got there

and when i started tryna farm, i had to equip golden pies for the first time in a year

[low snow]

During an outrage?

[cyan granite]

atp he just knows there aint much to do the damage has been done, i uninstalled with MANY others who arent gonna play anymore either

[bright current]

par for the course rly

[paper ingot]

he often does

[zealous niche]

This level of outrage hasn’t happened before so hard to say

[paper ingot]

um

sailing?

[opaque sun]

duck and cover and wait for the storm go away. Issue is the storm is headed towards him

[zealous niche]

Not to this level

[bright current]

not even close

this is is on an entirely new scale

[paper ingot]

fair i guess i havnt been around

[low snow]

Im used to him going dark after/before an update. But that is when things are gucci

[zealous niche]

Well, usually the update is good too, so again hard to tell

Still “not worried of abandonment” time frame

[opaque sun]

yet

Since lava been online on discord for about a day now

[cyan granite]

exactly now it's going completly crazy and he's quiet

[opaque sun]

Which either is discussing with mods and testers on discord, or talking to another company for selling the game

[bright current]

maybe he got rly into warhammer with all his money\

or hes on that submarine

[raven vale]

If i candy my Shroom kills for Vman, should i use snake or insect?

[low snow]

Off to rapture

[weary hinge]

insect

[raven vale]

ty

[bright current]

why are u candying Vman for gmush?

[raven vale]

im lazy

[weary hinge]

quest, 12m

i did candy that too

[opaque sun]

He could be online for Final Fantasy 16 discord and complaining how some of the deluxe edition is a rip off

[low snow]

I think its FOR vmam

[raven vale]

correct

[fiery mason]

put on nobi cuz u want that for speedrun, afk rate is better for candy though

[bright current]

just get doot

grow up

[weary hinge]

[bright current]

[raven vale]

sorry boss, yes i'll just spend a months wages

[hexed pine]

idk how i unlocked two gods in one row

[opaque sun]

for kills nobi works for candy too btw, and not like you want the drops from gmush

[zealous niche]

Probably spending div points would unlock deities

[fiery mason]

nobi only doulbes baserate and not multi or does it ?

[tropic kiln]

It does

[opaque sun]

It doubles everything

[zealous niche]

Other way round, doubles final

[opaque sun]

The kpk bubble is the base kill only thing

Kpk bubble and fiber prayer doesnt work on multikill, but nobi and lab are amazing because it works on mk

[raven vale]

Whats the trick to making first Vman quest work? lol

[low snow]

Wym

[raven vale]

oh im dumb, visit the deathnote..

[trim folio]

Does anybody know, what is the min time for egg incubation?

[wheat kiln]

this idleon is full of bug my main character SB kiled like 1 600 000 and now whit same setup i dont change nothing is onli kill like 1 200 000

on gmush

[raven vale]

missing snaphot?

[wheat kiln]

idk how to activated snapshot

[tacit tulip]

Run out of speed potions? Most common cause

[wheat kiln]

nah i have

so much potion

is not that

[tacit tulip]

Kill/h can be boiled down to a handful of things once you cap stuff out:

Damage
MK/T
afk gains
Respawn speed

One of these will have changed.

[opaque sun]

moved a lab, changed a chip or something like that

Maybe swapped vman’s preset

There are many cases of people forgetting to change back from their speed run preset

[tacit tulip]

I keep it in both to stop me being dumb tbh

[solid haven]

is there anywhere I could view a list of all the bonuses given to gaming?

I miss the "Bonuses" section for w4 / w5 skills :P

[opaque sun]

like the wiki you mean?

[tacit tulip]

Idleon insight would probs be your best starting point

[opaque sun]

Or idleon insight

[solid haven]

why are insight results not added to wiki?

cause you literally have to go back and forth to compare what you have / don't have

[opaque sun]

because they are not managed by the same person, i dunno

its probably related to the world’s mysteries with batteries not included with the toys

[solid haven]

you use toys that need batteries?

[bright current]

the robotic dogs not gonna do a flip without them

[tacit tulip]

Those are the best kind of toys

[opaque sun]

condolences if jenga was the most sophisticated toy you ever played with

[sacred verge]

jenga is fun tho

beats the game im curretly laying

[low snow]

Or the onse with wiggly motors.

Oh wait not that kind of toys

[sacred verge]

the type of toys that vibrates youre thinking about?

[opaque sun]

Vibrating jenga

[low snow]

[sacred verge]

vibrating jenga, what an idea!!!

sign me up

only if p2w tho, thats what i prefer these days

[opaque sun]

Instead of collapsing, it came

[zenith fiber]

Does the jenga vibrate? Or do you vibrate while playing?

[low snow]

Mikado. But with adult toys?

[sacred verge]

for it to come you need to spend 600 dollars

[solid haven]

imagine laptops came without battery

[zenith fiber]

"For a chance"

[solid haven]

and tablet / phones :P

[sacred verge]

true, there is a 1% chance for vibrating jenga to come

but trust me, the dopamine is real when it does

[low snow]

For 5€ you get a chance to coom.

People gonna buy that shit like hot cakes

[sacred verge]

probably

[near goblet]

what the hell is this chat

[sacred verge]

jenga whales be going wild for that 1 %

[next locust]

Sounds too f2p for me

I mean it is free to win

[solid haven]

wait...so if i use purrmep, do i need to "collect" sailing and gaming with him to take effect?

[zenith fiber]

Still less screwed up than the game currently

[sacred verge]

nope, but you need to use the bubble for more effect if you dont have sheep

[low snow]

Once a week you get a free chance after all.

[sacred verge]

true

still to this day i have yet to hit the 1% on jenga but the free pull every week makes me optimistic

[zenith fiber]

If you pull every week it will happen

[sacred verge]

a guy can only hope

[next locust]

Hey and the vibrating jenga can still me marketed to kids cause vibrating is not a money prize, so no gambling

[sacred verge]

true

[solid haven]

i'm sure he will implement other ways to get these pets (or at least currency).
Right now it's like how it is, just to not flood everyone with best possible bonuses :P

[zenith fiber]

No its simply a by-product

[next locust]

Don't be so sure. He's never said anything about doing that. Until he does, everything points to there being no chance

[zenith fiber]

Yeah, yeah.
Just like he made it easier to get chips

[next locust]

And just like he made autoloot available f2p

[solid haven]

autoloot available to f2p...?

Was that sarcasm?

[sacred verge]

guys there is no reason to worry. the local store has jenga and beer

[solid haven]

0% beer ;)

[sacred verge]

lol

if your local store only sells 0% i feel bad for you

[low snow]

0.38% beer

[sacred verge]

mine has 1% beer

[next locust]

Butbut I can't put money in jenga to get a chance for vibrations and dopamin

[sacred verge]

then you pray to hit it with you weekly pull. everyone gets one after a while. its not like its hard or unlikely

also the weekly pull offered is mooore than generous

[next locust]

You're making me see the light.
It's easy to get the vibrations. Just like pressing a button. Nothing hard about it.

[solid haven]

Who knows, maybe w5 boss will drop green gems?

[sacred verge]

correct

[sacred verge]

maybe it drops dollars aswell

[next locust]

Green gems going to loot drop tables would totally negate them being safe server side currency.
Unless lava completely overhauled drops.

[sacred verge]

you never know

[next locust]

W6 boss might drop girlfriends and w7 might drop well paying jobs! What a time to be playing

[sacred verge]

i believe thats the plan yes

[next locust]

Well then Lava is a benevolent god and we all should support the game by sending him more money

[sonic radish]

girl friends cost to much, paying jobs should come first

[solid haven]

I know it's all sarcasm, but your sarcasm is kinda wrapping an "f u"

[sacred verge]

i mean, for a free girlfriend from w6 i would 100% support that

depends on the drop chance?

[wet osprey]

has a -5% drop chance though (not affected by drop rate)

[next locust]

Usually the game mechanic breaking new mechanic comes after the player already has beaten the first one, but yeah it would be better if the girlfriend content was trivialised from the start

[fiery mason]

do people actually buy that argument? its just so he can justify it

noone cares about trading pets just remove that part and let us use blue gems

[sacred verge]

lol i love how this chat is going

[next locust]

"Free" girlfriend yes yes ;)

[low snow]

Weekly chance for free or 2,50 a roll. Lets be generous and give it... 0.4% chance

[next locust]

The cost must also go up after every roll.

Can't have them players spamming those cheap 2.50 rolls

[solid haven]

I understand why he wanted to implement trading -> player interaction, cause let's be honest...there is currently no player interaction (even guild is...just there)

[outer fox]

Maybe it just drops the pets themselves

[next locust]

I get why too, but the how is just...

[outer fox]

Trading want for player interaction, fix your dungeons and you’ll get that. Trading was to make the gacha not SO bad lol. But it’s only a pipe dream so far.

[fiery mason]

there are many ways to add player interaction no need to create a 2nd premium resource its just to make spenders disassociate from the money they drop

[next locust]

Well put

Lava planning to make trading fully paywalled supports that

Zero f2p trading

[solid haven]

erm...most f2p will be able to trade at least a limited amount (destroying duplicateds -> green gems -> pull with green gems and trade that companion)

[zenith fiber]

HoW cAn Yuo HaVe TradInG iN a SinGlE PlAYeR GamE

[next locust]

Nah destroyed f2p companions don't give gems, afaik

[near goblet]

free girl friend but it has 2% chance to leave every third tick

[lost depot]

Crazy to me to see people defending gacha mechanics. Adding content to the game is good, making gambling the way you interact with it is bad. It's FOMO, it's addictive, it's consumer unfriendly because you're gambling for content rather than paying for it upfront.

[near goblet]

i seen like 2 people defending it yet

[solid haven]

if that is so, then it's kinda paywalled for now, yes. But i dare not to destroy the one i have :P

[lost depot]

More on general chat

[outer fox]

I can’t wait for red Gems!

[undone nacelle]

I mean there is a confirmation button before destroying, it shows how many green gems you get. My untradeable frog shows 0

[solid haven]

i personally see gacha mechanic, with pitty, better than paying upfront, cause latter could have insane cost which would deter many paying customers

if your plan is to earn ~ same amount with both mechanics

[next locust]

Nah the latter, upfront, would most definitely not have insane cost, because people would not buy it then.
Gacha is so succesfull because the real cost is hidden behind rng

Games that use only upfront payments are never going to get that much money out of players.

[nova river]

Its been nearly a week and still no response about outcry over the removal of the "no scummy mechanics" policy from Lava?

[quartz turtle]

Any news?

[nova river]

Do you need to get "that much money" out of players?

If you're trying to get hundreds or thousands out of the same player, then that's gambling not gameplay.

Whatever happened to getting a reasonable amount out of each player and building the player base with a quality game? Shame that was not enough, even with 'just a solo dev' to support?

[solid haven]

I'm not sure what the rate for doot is, but let's say...on average...it would take ~100 to get one, which would cost...again imaginary number...40$.
If you convert that to upfront cost, the cost would be closer to 50$

[sacred verge]

i agree, aiming to get that much money out of players i just bad practise

[sacred verge]

50$ isnt even close to the money needed

50$ would be fine

[low snow]

And you couldn't hide between the paper thin "free pulls" argument

[sacred verge]

i would argue 50$ is overpriced still but thats atleast affordable

[next locust]

If I wanted to "get that much money" I would make gacha instead of clearly telling my players how insanely priced my ingame-numbers are.
I think we're agreeing here tbh.

[nova river]

Yes and that's trying to profit on others ignorance, its malicious and it has no place in a decent game. Its why I and so many others quit the game irrevocably. I'm only lurking to see if there's a response about the outcry.

[solid haven]

why are you so fixated to the number i gave? i said it's an imaginary number just to compare (where expected cost for gacha mechanic with pitty would be lower than full upfront cost)

[nova river]

I think the only response now is that silence speaks wonders.

[warm beacon]

Forced to spent 50 to keep up is still some bs, even basically forcing 10 is already a dick move

F2p should just be an option

[next locust]

Why's your upfront higher than your average? You know the devs can just choose any value they can, right? They can test and try and usually, the gacha average cost ends up being much much higher than any upfront because people are just more inclined to gamble away high amount of money than straight up pay that money.
So it should be 40$ upfront , 50 average gacha

[solid haven]

The idea of gacha (if implemented correctly) is for individual player to pay less than everyone paying full upfront cost

[next locust]

Lol no, the opposite

The idea is to sell that idea, while most players ending up paying more

[gloomy trench]

Lava still being slimey and not responded yet?

[next locust]

Sure, you have a small chance to pay less, but that's a gamble to you. You win to pay less.
Most players lose to pay more.
That's why gachas are so succesful

[vernal depot]

hey guys, does "flatulent spirit" 's gasses do the same dps as "chemical warfare" gasses?

[karmic oasis]

this is the fundamental thing about gamble... and why its destroying lives ... 0.00001% succeed

[sacred verge]

its honestly sad how the gambling world destroyes games

[zinc torrent]

I WANT DOOT

Gambling should be illegal

[solid haven]

it's kinda hard to find proof of who is right or wrong on that part, because we can't know how much it would cost if they picked other mechanic in games.
One thing is for sure, more people spend on gacha, cause it's more affordable (even if you didn't go full price and are just low spender)

Because you can't be low spender if everything has upfront price, it's either buy or not buy.

[zinc torrent]

Just ban it

[warm beacon]

I want doot out of the game

[sacred verge]

even if i got doot after 200$ i wouldnt have been able to enjoy it nor would i be happy with myself

its just soo much to spend for a simple item

[zinc torrent]

People who gamble are losers. Gambling should just be illegal

[next locust]

The games which have gacha system are the games that make more money. They're not making the most money because players spend less.

[zinc torrent]

Jail lava

[zinc torrent]

Ban gacha

[sacred verge]

i have no problems with gambling like at a casino as you willingly go there knowing what it is. however its sad to see how it sneaks its way into harmless games etc

[solid haven]

Well, you can't just say they make more money...did you look at the playerbase or rather the amount of people who pay for the game when you compare the two?
After all, 1000 players paying 5$ is more than 100 players paying 40$

[next locust]

But yeah I get what you mean by gacha having lower treshold for paying, because one ticket is usually priced much much lower than any average cost to good pull or straight upfront.

In the end, players end up paying whatever the devs want, tho, if they decide they want to get the item.

[next locust]

One player paying 10k$ is even more.

[solid haven]

a game with one player? Does such a game exist? :P

Wouldn't he own the game at that point?

[next locust]

You're missing the point

[sacred verge]

also the fact is alot of players are youg ppl without the capability to understand the mechanics in place to fool them

games used to be a safe haven for young people to enjoy their free time. today its not even close to that.

[bright quail]

should i save up for the log in gaming even tho itll take like a week of saving

is the log worth it?

[solid haven]

log is nice addition, as it can give at least ~4h instant progress per day

[deep oxide]

If you have chem unlocked I'd say it's worth it.

[bright quail]

no still only have berri bush

just rlly bad rng

[next locust]

I would say not yet. Week's too long. Keep upgrading your stuff

[bright quail]

what should i upgrade?

[solid haven]

i personally say it's worth even without :P
More nuts & gold nugget chance!

[deep oxide]

Then def not worth rushing.

[sacred verge]

also on the topic of whether this is a good update or not, the fact that people are deleting doot and uninstalling after getting him speaks for itself in my opinion

[bright quail]

we still talking about that update? lmao

[bright quail]

should i upgrade shell?

i have a 3.5k golden nugget

[sacred verge]

il keep my mouth shut about the update for now 🙂 trying to be contstrctive critic and dont run my mouth too too much

[deep oxide]

The update should still be talked about. Most of us end-gamers are contemplating quitting if the game keeps going this direction.

[bright quail]

yeah ikik sorry, didnt mean it in a bad way

[next locust]

Just upgrade everything with your bits you can. It's increasing costs so any mistakes will be small.When it seems you can unlock log in 2-3 days, sure go for it

[bright quail]

im just sayin, like i know it should keep being talked about until its fixed

[sacred verge]

i know, no worries mate

[solid haven]

kinda vague question...hard to answer without knowing current level? Cause it increases linearly, which means at certain cost it's not worth it anymore

[bright quail]

but lava doesnt look like hes gonna respond any time soon

i have lv 39 shell

and its rank 10

[sacred verge]

personally im taking about 10 days of and come back. if there is no statement i will probably put it on hold for quite some time

[deep oxide]

If he sees the topic drops he'll assume he made it out safe. I like the game and don't want to see it go this way.

[bright quail]

why are people stopping playing though?

like i know its a bad update

but theres not much of a change

the only difference is i have a pet now

[solid haven]

bonus of the pet :P

[deep oxide]

Vote with your wallet, vote with your choice of game to open.

[sacred verge]

its just a sneak peak of whats to come

[bright quail]

true

is leaving just meant to be a boycotte? or what

lmao

[next locust]

The whole direction of the game. This was not the first update of this type and will not be the last because Lava refuses to contemplate the real problems

[deep oxide]

He looks at stats that tell him how popular the game is. One of them is concurrent players.

[bright quail]

yeah i know, but if he doesnt fix this AND adds another p2w update ill probably leave aswell

[solid haven]

I'd personally say the problem is...Lava is not a manager and these kind of changes require management skills

[bright quail]

but rn idm too much bc im not an endgame player yet and i dont even play much

[sacred verge]

the FOMO factor is also huge as the pets are ment to rotate making it even harder to roll a great one

[deep oxide]

I have 11.4k hours and if the game doesn't burn down I'm hoping to get more out of it.

[next locust]

Yeah and at some point we all need to ask ourselves: has there been enough mistakes/warning signs that we should just stop investing our time anymore?

[sacred verge]

honestly i think all of us still here dont wanto quit. but there is a limit to what we can tolerate aswell

[bright quail]

well it is an idle game, so if u play it idle"y" it shouldnt be too much of a difference

but ik the endgame players play actively

so idk

[nova river]

Because I don't play gacha-games where to do well you need to spend thousands to compete.

This wasn't one. If it was one, I'd have never started playing in the first place.

[sacred verge]

speaking for myself as a student i dont have the economy to pay up 500$ a month to keep progress up

[bright quail]

compete with what tho? like it is a solo game, not defending lava btw

[solid haven]

well, if you upgrade your shell by 1 level, you'd increase your bit gain by a low amount (not sure what is mathematically correct number, but you'd go from 350% to 360%, which is basically nothing, no?)

[nova river]

Now its become one, its time to say goodbye.

[deep oxide]

If I enjoy a game I can put in a bit every month, not gonna gamble with it though.

[strong socket]

compete with everyone else?

[bright quail]

but if i upgrade that 10 times doesnt that mean ill be making like 20q instead of 10? or is it a different type of boost?

[bright quail]

yeah ig

[nova river]

Each other? The community? I was years behind many on this channel, but I could try to catch up via new mechanics and play on a relatively level playing field. The community is surely why we were all here on this channel.

Now we can't.

[strong socket]

competing the whole reason we go beyond "finishing" w5 lol

[bright quail]

yea i see that, i guess im just not that invested in the game to care that much, sorry lmao

[solid haven]

i'd increase your multiplier from 3,5x to 4,5x which is what...25%?

[unique elk]

Aside from buying pets i dont have anything left to do so does anyone have any ideas?

[bright quail]

so just upgrade shovel then?

[next locust]

Don't you play this game to see your characters getting as strong as possible?

[bright quail]

mhm

[sacred verge]

even if youre not competing its not a good feeling to know you will be locked out of the most powerfull stuff just cus you didnt pay up

[bright quail]

ive only started getting that invested recently though

like before i would only check in every few days

now i check in every few hours

[nova river]

Yeah exactly. I could have possibly beaten the Wurms or whichever is last on W5. I'd already reached the map with the w5 boss portal. But its trying to get the endgame billions that others here have that was motivation to continue - but Doot and +25 levels etc destroyed that entire premise.

[solid haven]

idk...I'm currently just doing a waiting game with my garden for big nugget before i change my tactic (only going for the base plant upgrade now...)

[jagged barn]

You got all chars dreadlo tools?
Finished eclisping?
Finished super chows?
All Vials lvl 13?

[bright quail]

wait so a 3500x nugget is only a 3.5x boost?

[next locust]

35x

[solid haven]

no, nugget boost is different.
the 3,5x was from your current shell

[bright quail]

oh 3.9* sry

[solid haven]

but i mistyped, it's 3,9*

[unique elk]

Yes except vials (some are obviously impossible)

[jagged barn]

3500is 3500 multi from non as far as i know

[bright quail]

yea mbmb, misunderstood

[next locust]

Woah I always thought it was just percents

[bright quail]

pretty sure its just a multiplier like it says

thats why people say its one of the most important boosts

[jagged barn]

Then just do the waiting game of doing bubbles hourly and atom upgrades to get bigger samples

[spring yarrow]

I feel like this damage is super low for my current level

[bright quail]

yep

[solid haven]

I'm quite sure he can't afford atom upgrades yet :P

[bright quail]

level doesnt really matter tho

i have a lv 80 guy doing more damage than u

[jagged barn]

Lvl doesn't mean anything except some talent points

[next locust]

Yeah I knew it was huge, but at the point when you already have a decent one you're only thinking lika doubling or tripling with a lucky roll.
Forgot how huge the first rolls were lol

[kind shore]

Most likely not enough acc considering he's a DK

[solid haven]

kinda does, as level = talent points though

[spring yarrow]

https://younglad1.idleonefficiency.com/ What can I be improving on?

[bright quail]

dont ask me lmao, im not endgame

but u could do alchemy

and other stuff

[unique elk]

I get hundreds of millions in samples per hour

[bright quail]

ask some of these guys, theyre way better than me

[jagged barn]

Then get a billion

[unique elk]

Bet

[bright quail]

shit i just realised ive barely done cooking D:

im working on fishing rn tho

[solid haven]

my personal problem is pet arena. Kinda giving up on it xD (to unlock all spices)

[bright quail]

i hate pets -_-

[kind shore]

lmao that's his\ maestro

[jagged barn]

At endgame it becomes very slow game of trying to get 1 more lvl in everything
untill lava release anew contnet

[bright quail]

this isnt mine, but should i not have maestro in lab and skilling instead?

[wraith garden]

You mean a new pet

[jagged barn]

That's the new content

[unique elk]

Not gonna spend 1700 on that 🤢

[jagged barn]

At least untill you get lvl 80-90 skills

[kind shore]

Mine was out everytime I could reach a new tool level threshold, so if I could reach dementia fishing rod and craft atleast 1, maestro would be fishing for ex
But yeah base idea is to always skill with maestro

[bright quail]

ohh 0.0

okay maestros out of the lab now lmao

why do i want to level maestro's skills tho btw?

[kind shore]

New tool

[solid haven]

what do you mean why? didn't you read his skills? :P

[jagged barn]

More damage
And to get all chars to dreadlo tools lvl

[bright quail]

havnt looked at him in a while :D

[kind shore]

And if you have efficiency check every tab, they could give you a rough idea
For example your stamps shouldn't look like this ever

[bright quail]

man im just tryna get the gummy orb, this is impossible

[solid haven]

or to be more specific...one of his skills, which is boost proficiency for others that are lower than him

[bright quail]

well yeah, ik that one

[solid haven]

that's kinda the main reason we raise skill lvls with him though

[bright quail]

how do people have so much motivation on this game lmao

im already sick of being at a standstill, even though im not really and made huge progress in the pas tweek

[kind shore]

Great content, mine went through the window a few days ago tho

Wonder why 🤡

[solid haven]

i personally spend ~1h max per day on the game, so it can't get old...

[bright quail]

i think the man just wanted a bag and leave :D

someone said he got like 2mil

r smthn

[bright quail]

same

[kind shore]

Yeah considering his lack of response it must be it, imma quit at the end of the week if no response, shame it was a great game but ruined by greed

[bright quail]

yeah

its been like what? 5 days now

[solid haven]

i personally am trying to "finish" the game (unlock everything)

[bright quail]

whats ur highest damage rn?

like i suck atm

[kind shore]

Just get doot it'll be faster then

[bright quail]

my highest is only 12 mil..... 😭

[kind shore]

Me or rakc ?

[bright quail]

fr, spend the 1700

[bright quail]

well both idm, kinda meant him tho lmao

[solid haven]

honestly, no clue. My main damage dealer (ES) hasn't done combat in few weeks

[bright quail]

just look at the number that is impossible to read 👍

[kind shore]

My bubo should be around 1.5/2B, doubled his damage in a week tho

[bright quail]

oh nice

mine is only 12 mil

and i dont rlly know what to do rn other than alchemy

and green stacks, but i cant get any of those

[solid haven]

technically, ES will always have "max damage" due to his lightning multiplier :P
But yeah...it's not all about damage

[bright quail]

ikik, i was just asking a question on ur damage

no big deal lmao

[solid haven]

i bet he can mega crit for 1B, but can't confirm :P

[bright quail]

i just meant the damage on ur stats

like the max damage

[spring yarrow]

0 idea whats happened, but my damage is looking a bit more healthy now

[bright quail]

nicee

still a bit low

[solid haven]

ah that, probably in 100-200M range?

[summer finch]

[bright quail]

should be a few mil

[bright quail]

nice

[pure spindle]

My bubo always loses ~100m max dmg after leaving his area off afk, then returns after game closes. Anyone know why?

[spring yarrow]

My tomahawk stamp is stupid low. So I'm just smelting a bunch of copper to max it

[pure spindle]

I was doing this 30s ago lol

Twinnin

[bright quail]

oh shit i forgot about stamps aswell

[spring yarrow]

lmao

[bright quail]

damn i suck lmao

[pure spindle]

I forget abt them for months at a time de

U can probably upgrade em a ton

[kind shore]

Max every stamps you have, you're severly lacking in those, same about alch and cooking

[solid haven]

what I like is that carry cap is now "easy" to raise for everyone

[bright quail]

time to make a few million bars >:D

[spring yarrow]

I havent touched stamps for weeks

[bright quail]

me neither

[pure spindle]

One of my favourite updates fr

Removing bags was great

[bright quail]

why what did they change?

[pure spindle]

No bags in craft recipes

[bright quail]

oh wait rlly?

[pure spindle]

Easier for ppl eho dont make 10 lustres at once

[bright quail]

oh ur right

thats iinsane

never noticed lmaooo

is it worth it getting the completionist trophy for w3?

[covert sphinx]

i heard lava fled to russia so he can keep selling his game illegally to avoid the gambling laws is this true?

[bright quail]

yes

[steady token]

what if i can print more than 2b oak logs every hour and turn off atom collider? will I have 2 1050m stack in storage?👀

[solid haven]

I personally didn't feel like upgrading everyone to the green one (high cost of salt) and black one (tier underneath) was also quite...annoying due to many resources

[covert sphinx]

grr

[kind shore]

Imo no, depends on how you spend your time tho

[summer finch]

Slab is always nice, though w3 is one of the more annoying ones to do. Thankfully you don't need 2 as there isn't an achievement for it like there was in w1-2.

[bright quail]

like all i need is the black lenses

50 more r smthn

[kind shore]

Ah then yes, should be quick to farm with ES

[bright quail]

i only play afk tho

just so yk

[solid haven]

when my warrior went to chow-spree I kinda secured 100 of each rare, so haven't bothered with farming them for some time now xD

[kind shore]

Then I don't know, never really farmed rare drops in afk

[bright quail]

oh wait

does my warrior have to cause the zow for it to count?

[solid haven]

for it what to count?

[bright quail]

oh wait nvm -_-

i was zowing on other characters

[summer finch]

[kind shore]

Yes you need to do it on barb

[bright quail]

well i only did that yesterday, wasnt rlly zowing though, i was just getting skulls on multikill thing

[summer finch]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-thats-unfortunate-tricia-helfer-charlotte-lucifer-thats-unlucky-gif-17388312

[bright quail]

so not too bad

[summer finch]

Idk why I'm doing this

[spring raptor]

because talent points

[solid haven]

to raise that flag

[bright quail]

bc why not

[summer finch]

Talent points

[bright quail]

why not*

[summer finch]

I can shove points into my bubbles if I wanted those.

[low snow]

Bits multi

[elfin cape]

Where do you even leave your shrines with Doot?

[solid haven]

w5 merit shop points? ;)

[steady token]

i can print more than 2b material every hour for the first 3 bubbles. is there a way to prevent them turned into atoms so I can level bubbles more?

i see end gamers have 1k+ first 3 bubbles. how?

[spring yarrow]

wtf now its super low again?

[summer finch]

A lot of time

And hourly clicks.

[kind shore]

You don't have 1.5x acc

[deep oxide]

Hourly click

[spring yarrow]

ah yeah that makes sense,

[steady token]

just at a rate of +2 every hour?

[summer finch]

A loooot of time

[low snow]

Click hourly for 42 days straigt. Thall give you 1k

[steady token]

too hard for me

[weary hinge]

is this right or am i tripping?

[summer finch]

it's rounded.

[weary hinge]

ah okay that makes sense

thanks awake rokkis

[summer finch]

I never slept

[weary hinge]

what lvl should i stop?

[summer finch]

I always suggest 700 to start off.

[true obsidian]

can anyone give me money threshold with drop rate? i remeber it 5.0 -> 7.0 but don't know the rest

[summer finch]

Just every odd whole number.

[summer finch]

Go for .01 afterwards so you avoid the rounding bullshit.

[true obsidian]

thank you

[summer finch]

Most are comfy with 9 or 11 these days.

on a money farm build.

[true obsidian]

i have 6.86 drop rate with full money card now, i should try to get 7.0 droprate right? that'll better than +%money card?

[summer finch]

Yea 1 dr card would make up for that easily.

[sacred verge]

i have 11.13 droprate

[summer finch]

Money cards are additive so they don't actually add that much

[sacred verge]

just putting it out there

still no doot tho

[summer finch]

But a like 5-6 money cards is more money multi than a single breakpoint in most cases.

You gotta play around with it yourself to see your own multi after the fact.

[true obsidian]

this is my set up now, i have x7.2dr

[summer finch]

I personally got higher multi running pmush and nuttos over stat% cards.

[sacred verge]

i would rather have some extra DR rather than money cards tbh

[random lake]

any updates

[weary hinge]

no. we wait.

[random lake]

id suggest getting more dr cards, and get obols

[crisp silo]

Man how you guys get so much dr, a full dr obol set + family is only netting me like 7 dr

[sacred verge]

prayer, cards, pet follower

[crisp silo]

Oooo prayer

Ok

I cant rly sacrifice my current cards so 8dr for me then

[sacred verge]

never prayer on ES tho

dr prayer

so much lack of idleon content on yt nowdays

[sonic radish]

sad that the person who brought me into this game has stopped playing because of this update. sad times indeed

[glad crow]

this is what im running

and im getting 17m cash multi from it

[glad crow]

my gmush is also very low tho, so you will probally have much higher

[summer finch]

Bets yours is higher than mine

[glad crow]

nah

i never really did gmush

lul

[summer finch]

I never candied it so it's all just afk time for me.

Even though I always sit on a buttload and never use it.

[glad crow]

but you prob afk sb on it right?

[summer finch]

yeh most the time

[glad crow]

i never did that

[summer finch]

tony always roasted me about this

[autumn rivet]

siege breaker plunder kill talent helps a ton

[glad crow]

i win again

[autumn rivet]

since it's multiplicative

[glad crow]

mine is way lower

[crisp silo]

I see

[glad crow]

im the best at skill issueing

[summer finch]

Still waiting on this dumb keychaind oubler to come by next month.

[viral vigil]

Hi frens and Rokkis

[summer finch]

If I can still be bothered to log on by that time anyways.

[glad crow]

im waiting on that and the card doubler im missing

and after that i gotta figure out what combination of woodchips and respawn chips is best for me

[summer finch]

Really just depends on your deathnote and other sources of mk/t really.

[glad crow]

ye

[summer finch]

In moooost casts respawn will trump mk/t

esp now with 1b

[glad crow]

also before i ever touch gmush again, i need to finish eclipsing w1

[crisp silo]

Ah i see a card doubler in the coming weeks, tine to update my kraken prints

[summer finch]

Lost my motivation to hourly click so I'm just doing 1mil plunderous for the memes.

[glad crow]

lol

[summer finch]

Maybe by the time the keychain doublers come by I can hit 17 dr

[glad crow]

thats big number

[summer finch]

I'm getting out of midgamer territory

[crisp silo]

1m plunders?!?!? Bro is off in the deep end

[summer finch]

I mean with the vman buffs it'll only take mlike

7 weeks at this rate?

[glad crow]

isnt the % also 2 now?

[summer finch]

base % got buffed to 2 yea.

vman doubles it to 4.

So it's waaaay quicker now.

[glad crow]

wait how did i miss that

[summer finch]

then there's the whole 100 and -25 flag to proc the next plunder mob mechanic on vman too.

[crisp silo]

If only we could get 100% uptime on flag

[summer finch]

I spent like 5-6 days to get 10k plunder when it first came out. I think it took me less time than that to get 90k more

It's close enough honestly. I only have like a 5 second downtime?

[crisp silo]

Eh, i got like 30 sec

Then gotta wait for a plunder to spawn

[summer finch]

actually no I just watched it. It's 100% uptime.

[glad crow]

just like orb pog

[crisp silo]

Truly a rokkis moment

[summer finch]

SHould be able to minize it if you book this shit

and do the po box.

[crisp silo]

Ogmhhh that thing

[summer finch]

yeh, honestly 100 to 220 only gave me like.. what 5 or 6%?

But it was enough to make a difference on the flag consistency.

Pretty lazy with this...

oh god wait is my ES gonna outlevel my maestro? I forgot I left him on a tree

[glad crow]

meowing rift?

[summer finch]

yessir

something like 740k/hr. Figured it was reasonable enough.

[glad crow]

yeah thats very good

[crisp silo]

Dang chowing the rift is crazy

[summer finch]

Was expecting it to be way worse without mk but here we are.

[sacred verge]

chowing rifts is not bad

the 100M is bad

[summer finch]

superchowing only gonna take me about 3 more days

[sacred verge]

nice

[summer finch]

actually maybe I should have just pushed up the rift levels while I was doing it.

[glad crow]

what level you at?

[summer finch]

My damage has gone up a bit since I actually pushed rift so I can hit kill cap with a jank setup pretty easily.

I stopped right at 46 for ruby cards. Didn't push anymore

Wanted to hit 27T for mk but... I gave up on that when I saw how decent my rates were without it.

[prime cloud]

An there I am stuck at 36...

[summer finch]

We all gotta start somewhere

[sonic radish]

dont feel bad i was stuck at 36 for like 2 months

[prime cloud]

At 4000m dmg and can't get past it :/

[chrome lantern]

is it necessary that I keep all my skills above the others for vman? my w1-w3 skills are ~45+ but that’s because I’m trying to keep fishing at or around the same level

[opaque sun]

vman applies hand on those below him

So those non specialized skillers feel free to go over vman skills

[sonic radish]

your close to where i was, i just dumped everything i could into crit and somehow managed to do it

[opaque sun]

Like miners are free to go ham on their chopping skill lvl

[prime cloud]

Hhaa hopefully soon then, at 150% crit atm, I assume you pushed the 200%?

[chrome lantern]

hm alright

[crisp silo]

When giga crits

[summer finch]

[weary hinge]

y u get so much

[summer finch]

What I lack in sleep I make up for in crit.

[weary hinge]

i was about to say that

[summer finch]

Also that was a meme picture. I put on the set and everything

[opaque sun]

giga crits needs to give like mk bonus or something or else, some additive crit damage will not mean much

[summer finch]

gigacrits will give us no numerical advantage.... but.... WE'LL GET GREEN NUMBERS MAYBE?!

[sonic radish]

also even though i made it past 36 im still stuck on 38 soooo

[glossy dawn]

how yo increase pet power

[summer finch]

BM talent and breeding levels.

And egg rarity if you're desperate.

[glossy dawn]

so breed exp

[weary hinge]

should i still use this?

[green eagle]

my best exp cog atm is a 98% that only has 56 flag rate

[weary hinge]

thats a low flag rate 😦

[green eagle]

so i mean if it increases your exp% at all i say go for it

trust me, i want to smelt it back into the fire

but nothing comes up that is better

[summer finch]

Do you even still need flags? 🤔

[green eagle]

nope

that's waht makes it worse

[summer finch]

I meant ember

[green eagle]

terrible flag rate cog that happens to be my best exp cog

[weary hinge]

well, no.

[summer finch]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-good-job-patpat-gif-25554349

Don't be sad sir.

Some may say you're.... under the weather.....

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-18261463

[low snow]

Wezzzaaaaa

[weary hinge]

i think you do need sleep, after all

[green eagle]

back to the salt mines

[sacred verge]

doot doot

[green eagle]

sad dootless noises

[low snow]

Proud dootless noises

[green eagle]

just thinking of how easy resampling will be if i ever get a doot is just , then i remember how much money you'll likely spend to get one is a good way not to purchase

[low snow]

Its just a shame really.

[summer finch]

sand pot master race

[green eagle]

sandy boy was my first free pet too

[summer finch]

I'll kill him one day for glass shards

[low snow]

Imo sheepie should have been the max. All bubbles is a good, but not breaking bonus.

[coarse parrot]

Dootless second class citizen

[green eagle]

[pliant arch]

why would you cross out the truth

[low snow]

Aw shit we animals farm now?

[green eagle]

it's a bonus that makes a whole system (one which you spend gems on) obsolete

[summer finch]

Nah I'll just take him with me on my quest to commit genocide on his kind for the express purpose of bag space.

I'm sure he won't mind.

[pliant arch]

agree, sheepie is good, very good but not breaking.

[green eagle]

he will look down upon the lowly glass spewing filth, proud to bathe in their blood

[low snow]

Rift slug is also too crazy. A few 100 skillpoints going over the max.

[summer finch]

es strong

free fury relic tier, which just so happens to be one of if not the strongest artifact.

[low snow]

It not like foot is breaking some old mechanic in half to remove tedious micro. It was just implemented.

[stiff prairie]

Rift slug turned my struggling ES at genies into clearing w4

+25 talent levels in classes where you want a lot of things helps so much.

[summer finch]

I mean it's not that it broke old mechanics, it's just makes a very distinct difference in the capabilities of the havers and have nots

[tight ridge]

does afk gain rate affect alchemy gains from CC

[summer finch]

Negatory

[stiff prairie]

You can put 1 talent point into hp and str (as a mage) and your survivability goes up by at least half

[opaque sun]

Its not just the immediate boost, but more of the progress speed

[stiff prairie]

1 point into wisdom (with rift slug) helps sustain archer, its just crazy

[tight ridge]

yeah i got the slug its crazy good

might let me hit 200 tentacleeye before i unlock the island

[green eagle]

does it give those talent points by itself?

or just increase max level?

[pliant arch]

The fact that new features is so op and lava being silent for 4+ days makes me feel like he's doing Rug Pull lol.

[summer finch]

Just adds points like bear/es/symbols would.

He's certainly doing some magic.

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/celebrate-gif-8966544

[glossy dawn]

does skill exp affect w4 w5 skill

[summer finch]

some hypnotoad shit

[hollow warren]

ik the game ded but had 20 minutes free

[opaque sun]

None of the w4-w5 skills apply for “all skill exp” type of buff

wait sorry, cook does i guess

[radiant geyser]

Still nothing huh

[summer finch]

Cooking, lab, yes. The rest no. Specialized xp from mages works for divinity.

actually not sure on lab 🤔

[opaque sun]

lab just uses lab exp

[summer finch]

yea I think that's right. 🤔

[fading cape]

Premium hat switcher isn't consumed when you use it?

[opaque sun]

Yeah its a reuse-able button

[atomic wing]

Remember that time lava released a controversial update and didn't stay around to help deal with the fall out?

[pliant elk]

implying he's ever coming back

[solid jolt]

finally, world 5!!

now the grind truly begins

[atomic wing]

Gen chat is so dumb

I got aids

[solid jolt]

are they still arguing?

[atomic wing]

Yeah with like 4 mods

[solid jolt]

lmao

any news from lava?

[atomic wing]

For waiting like this

[solid jolt]

what does the slab do?

[atomic wing]

A lot

Depends what you've unlocked

[upbeat trout]

what do i have to do i link to second god on my ES

[solid jolt]

I think you can change gods only once a week but I may be wrong

I just got to w5 😅

[sonic radish]

its the bottom left talent. put a point into it, till it gets to the one you want

[upbeat trout]

i have selected it, but i still cant

[sonic radish]

it auto picks one

[versed cypress]

now you can do it twice a week thanks to the extra part of the companion update

[opaque sun]

or get doot so you dont have to unlink at all

[versed cypress]

that too xDD

[solid jolt]

WHAT

my crystal chance is around 1/200

4 spawned!!

[versed cypress]

happens

[solid jolt]

in a row

I don't even have cookie

[versed cypress]

yeah it happens

you just rolled a 1 in 200 win 4 times

[solid jolt]

oh I also got a card

very cool

another card

I used up my luck for the next 50 years

[tacit tulip]

was it a start of a new day/new to w5?

There's a few different sources of 100% crystal chance, and they reset daily

[solid jolt]

I don't have those

[tacit tulip]

one of which is "enter w5"

[solid jolt]

bruuuh

never read that

[tacit tulip]

you don't start off with the w5 board so not surprising

[pliant arch]

you have used up all your doot luck rip

[green eagle]

t6 cactus go back to looking like a saguaro cactus?

[graceful gorge]

I cant understand how my build rate is so low 😦 Ive seen ppl that are far behind me and has 10x my current build rate
Thats my preset,please Help meeee

[kind shore]

Focus xp, get squires only on board, everyone else building cogs, perma cosntruction bubble on squire (Level it up)

And get their xp talent booked

[graceful gorge]

Ty,ill try

[opaque sun]

focus construction lvl on one guy as having high lvl on one is better than mediocre on all

the carpenter bubble that scales per construction level is so strong, speed is all about lvls

[steady token]

what's that 0 mean in IE? is it a hidden monster like gmush in doot fight 👀

[noble mesa]

In showers

U need a bolt catter

[steady token]

you mean boop? i want to know the one in front of boop.

[zinc torrent]

Is this new node?

[radiant geyser]

Isn't that the spike game node?

[opaque sun]

probably the invisible gmush at doot, or the acorn at acorn td

[zinc torrent]

oh yea it is spike game node

[steady token]

there is a invisible gmush i the doot map

the w2 mini boss doot, not the new pet

just use autokill, then you can kill it at top left platform

[fierce hearth]

hey boys, asking for a friend what is a "super chow" ?

[pulsar cliff]

100m

[prisma drift]

It increases cooking speed a lot

Rather than cooking eff

[rose scaffold]

Is it a talent or :o?

[potent maple]

spike trap game room, not new

[opaque sun]

need vman talent to apply super chow enhancement on chow

[rose scaffold]

ahh it's an enhancement, i see

[pure spindle]

Anyone know if theres a post office box for skill exp?

General skill exp i mean looking to have it add to my dk construction

[jagged relic]

Second page, the bottom left box?

[young blade]

day idk of trying to get a t6

[young blade]

Yeah the myriad 3rd bonus is general skill exp

what?

How could I focus on doot? like isnt it a rng thing?

(and p2w)

I'm quite mad about it too 😦

[pure spindle]

Thank you, figured it was myriad

Another question, where do you find the bonus that gives all prayers when 0 are equipped? I swear i remember that existing

[young blade]

And I invested a fair amount of money in the game already because I like the project, not gonna say my full opinion hear to not go off-topic but i'm a bit sad

[jagged relic]

That's it, I couldn't think of the name

[green eagle]

you're going to take forever trying to get t6 if you are are working on so many different ones like that, but if you have none i guess it's fine

but your green bits tell me you have a low mutation chance most likely

and since you don't have snail you're just hendering your progress trying for t6 when you still have things to gain

[young blade]

Really? isnt the chance the same for all of them? once I get one I can start collecting that one

[young blade]

evo chance is about 19.2% rn, what would be a good rate?

[green eagle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7tj1KOwpVAAWgiucgs8oJ2B3iqp0KHT/edit?dls=true&pli=1#gid=1742532979

[young blade]

Yeah I meant like once I get a t6 of one species I can collect the plants from that species

[young blade]

thx kind stranger!

[green eagle]

follow the instructions and put your numbers in the boxes

[green eagle]

you're going to find out you have roughly almost a year at least of waiting at your current chance to guarantee a t6 roll

lucky rolls might happen, but you are just slamming your head against a wall hoping this time you finally make a hole

[young blade]

1.5 indeed, better to focus on snail then

thx again!

@green eagle one last question, is there a sweet spot for activating kitsune?

[lime crow]

nothing like accidentally re-rolling your divinity offerings away from the 100% option

makes me wanna delete my account... weeks of saving up points for nothing x_x

[sick sentinel]

time to yolo left side lol

[lime crow]

yeahhh weeks of points spent rerolling lol

[tough horizon]

still no response sadge

[lime crow]

just gonna put all my characters in the divinity thing and forget about the game for a week

[ancient vine]

noice

[green eagle]

if you are trying for t5+ have him on

[feral spoke]

so I just arrived in W5 with a character that has doot, and I don't have divinities active actually - do you have to unlock each one individually first? I thought everyone was going crazy about not having to unlock them

[small igloo]

there a bug with doot

i would still unlock them

[feral spoke]

kind of as I expected, not sure why people were screaming that you unlock all gods even if you didn't unlock them

[untold arch]

what level is your divinity

[small igloo]

probs very low

[untold arch]

needs to be at least lvl 2 iirc, after that can check if that char is active in lab without actually being in lab

[small igloo]

how do i increase my dinvinity exp gain besides mantra on everyone (pre lvl40)

[atomic kiln]

god could u wine less

[modern hazel]

When you use the new autoplacement feature for the traps, which character's bonus does it use?

The character whose traps it is, or the one you're playing on?

[atomic kiln]

the char u playing on, so use ur hunter

[modern hazel]

great ty for answering

[quartz turtle]

still not?

[fierce hearth]

uhmm

where do i bug report

cuz i think i somehow managed to create an exploit without intending to (has to do with a hardware crash about a week ago, i only just now noticed something that should normaly not be possible)

[deep oxide]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/800577865062154240

[ionic belfry]

So its day 5, Lava still counting money?

[dreamy rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/how-ma-aa-ad-can-i-be-flying-money-playing-guitar-gif-17939095

[feral spoke]

Just arrived, so level 1

[untold arch]

gotta be lvl 2 1st

[proper sandal]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[green eagle]

eventually you will get your time down to where if you want you can have him off for increased bit gain, but in general it is always a good thing to have him on. only caveat to that is if you only check once per day or just infrequently keep him off as you'll gain more bits having him off as your plants will go through roughly the same cycles

[dreamy stone]

how do i reset my acount for doot rolls

[low snow]

Make new one

[proper sandal]

not possible / cant talk about it here

[dreamy stone]

dm?

[proper sandal]

read the first part again, but slowly

[dreamy stone]

it is possible i believe

spam new emails lol

[proper sandal]

rolls are all server side, so unless you make a new account you cant get doot

[vapid wraith]

Can bronze pop obols roll 3% drop?

[lament kindle]

Ya, gotta roll em in the upgrade tab for it tho (I believe)

[atomic kiln]

well i finally did it, months of work 😄

[lament kindle]

Don’t think they drop at 3 naturally

[vapid wraith]

I guess I just got really unlucky.

[atomic kiln]

the most incredible thing u can achieve in the game

i have done it!

[vapid wraith]

Yeah, I know. Just wasn't sure because it took so long to roll 3%

[atomic kiln]

nobody has done it before me

im alone

my friend, nobody has done what i just did after months of work

and it will take some time for anyone to do it

it requires dedication

[vapid wraith]

What do I use the Gaming Kitsune Rock for? Doesn't seem like something I'd ever use.

[versed cypress]

dedication... yeah no one is goig to do it anymore

[visual lava]

you finally quit?

[atomic kiln]

no

[visual lava]

gzgz

[versed cypress]

GG

[sacred berry]

dayum

[gilded vault]

Getting 6th evolution stage from plants

[vapid wraith]

So is it worth just leaving it on all the time?

[atomic kiln]

whooohoo thanks 😄

[untold arch]

man i thought it was actually going to be something no one has done

[atomic kiln]

in dark days i have to build up some excitement lol

[gilded vault]

No I think it's pretty terrible most of the time unless you really check gaming every hour or so, but 6th stage is very very unlikely, so it helps a lot for tjis specific case

[atomic kiln]

6th evo is a walk in the park

[gilded vault]

You have a very big park then 😄

[sage ermine]

How about 5th Evo how long Will that take

[sage ermine]

Doot

[thin rose]

true gamer

[sacred frigate]

What's your dmg?

[thin rose]

That's not me

just seen a random new gamer with a doot

thought it was funny

[true obsidian]

if i increse my sailing speed when all my boat sailing, does i have to call them back and send them again?

[cyan shuttle]

He's gonna have questions when he sees random texts like "afk progress for gaming garden" lol

While being in w1

[versed cypress]

aparently you dont get gods procs or any use of them untill youa ctualy get to w5 and get at least one level in divinity on the character

[elder ermine]

!merit4

[obtuse orbit]

No bubble left behind - As soon as you reach nblb in lab, drop all other merits and start buying this one. Until then, pretend it doesn't exist.
(1) One purchase into Spice Pillage so you don't feel as forced to manually collect spices.

1. Max out the eggs so you don't have to log on as often to use them.
2. Get Mob Respawn maxed out to allow you to push the maps faster.
3. Connection range merit doesn't give much, but it will make it alot easier to find good spots for your characters to be in lab.
   (Note: Connection Range is the range from characters to nodes/jewels. Line Width is only between character to character.)
4. Troll armor is miles better than Diabolical armor. If you do not have enough nullo salt production, you can get spice pillage maxed instead.
5. Max out Spice Pillage. Having the talent at level 100 gives it 100% chance to proc.
6. Since three crystals daily is next to nothing, get this one last.

[clever agate]

cant wait for my second pull tomorrow. I'm 100% sure it will be doot Dootium

[fiery mason]

is it 1 week already tomorrow?

[vivid garnet]

Imagine how many nugget procs he will get once he gets to w5