#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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its messed up
Is divinity 2 supposed to lower your line width by a huge amount or is it just broken?
restarted, still in 11 hours
well then it is 11 hr
For the souped up tubes? I thought that was fixed
i forfeit ahah rip thjose soul
Is it a souped up tube bug when paired with divinity 2? idk. I just know the line width is garbage when using it. It works right until you change maps then it shrinks like crazy
i just checked, with the 6c drop rate you had a 1 in 834k chance for the drop... with the ammount of time you were doing it, plus portals, damn that was unlucky to not get it, if you had kept going untill you had the equivalent of 1.7m kills afk you would have guaranteed the drop by doing it afk ><
wonder what will replace doot in the rotation ๐ฎ
how long did that active session took you???
All nuggets get additive to the pool 
we do not speak of the posibilities we are scared we are giving lava more dumb OP ideas xDDD
i wonder what will be COMPARABLE to doot in companion rotation 2
hahaha true true
it could just be doot bonus doubled
hahahahah nah no real point in doubling gods
"you're now connected to the lab twice"
yay
i want ALL chips active at all times on all characters
I want quick reference for all town activities...
one of the most outrageous suggestions was, ALL your print samples are active on all characters instead of just 2
i wonder more how long the radio silence will last
And all passive cards doubled. 
at this point he will probably wait untill he has his solution done
this is the question that keeps me coming back
You assume there will be a solution?
its like waiting for a major update lol
Double the cost of all bubbles but triple the effects
a 'solution'
all cards become passive and have x2, bonus if they are ruby xDDD
im just courious what he has to say
A fix with sticky tape
ohh there will be a solution, wheter it is a solution for us or not, but there will be something
i'm still rooting for "sorry guys, got hacked and abducted by isis. in the hospital. real update next week. compensation coming"
700 gems for anyone who didnt use the word "gocha" in the discord
Blue or green?
Lava can't win.
He'll either give a half-decent solution that the community dislikes, or give an amazing solution that the community won't like "because there shouldn't have been a problem in the first place".
New purple gems
did you just lose 700 gems?
i honestly dont think he will fix anything, he will continue the ride. the players we lost will be lost, thats what he will think, and he will continue like nothing happened and focus on the newer playerbase
by solution do you mean an update that changes how pet companion works?
thats what i think
It'll be branded as "A QoL update"
what if there is no solution and the system stays the same
yeah id be surprised if anything changed
Its an evolution in the playstyle to appeal to a younger player base. Working people dont have as much money as momas credit card
yeah, this is the same as the idle skilling final update
aside from a new pet rotation, but that may not be for some months
thats why i am curious to see what he will say, because i think he will focus on the road ahead, which i am curious to know more about
my business plan involves documenting the effects of this decision style, observing the playerbase feedback, and having notes ready for when i make my own idle game
i remember when that update came, that was the day my game went OP and nothing worked anymore
i played idle skilling just for the idleon rewards, i just laughed at the way the afterlife screwed up the progression, got to endgame in a day i'd say
i really hope we can at one point put this behind us and have w6-w8 and then see where it goes
i wouldn't have though the game wasn't profitable as is. he had already been pushing stuff with the time-limited gem shop section. he had promised 8 worlds, this is a weird way to say you love your game
Only unlocked through season pass
how though ? doot broke it
w6 - unlockable by lootcrate.
it doesnt need to be broken if w6-w8 has new points where doot doesnt have any effect
irrelevant
Doot makes you so strong what W6-W8 will be easy
it kinda rhymes with the last idle skilling update; a new feature that uses a brand new premiun currency
You know what? After all this time, I think I made my mind on the situation. I don't think the update is bad. I don't think the gacha system is good either (well, I lost a lot of money on this one), but I can get the idea. The thing that makes me "sad" is the absence of news. Even just a : " I'm working on something, you'll see what I meant" would have been good. Rn, I feel likke falling on a endless pit, waiting to know if something might save me or not ๐ฆ
The Doot is only logical if he firstly implemented a method, for example a new Rift that gives you some of Doot's bonuses. Then he implemented a W6 thing that gives some of the rest Doot bonuses
And then he implemented Doot that gives all these without having to reach these milestones.
It would be shit, but it would make sense.
Right now a new player with 10.000 accounts to get 1 Doot, can reach a player with 2 years in the game.
im in a very similar position to you , except for the money situation for me.
This is disrespectful
hmm maybe i need to rephrase it. what I mean is that with doot, everything is achieved basically from w1-w5, everything becomes free kind of. with the next worlds such as w6 to w8. he must have new focus points, where doot and the bonuses that breaks the game now doesnt exist.
ppl seem to forget that doot is only really strong if you have actualy a good account
Let me rephrase it. If you have less than a year game time, make a new acc and you will be endgamer in 2 months with Doot
The game was honestly p2w before, it's just a bit more...blatant now. It's fine. It's a mobile game. That's what they do
That's sed tho ๐ฆ
@crisp wave maybe irrelevant what i said again, but i am just thinking of sollutions. sorry if they are off ๐ฆ
at the end of the day the majority of people got accustomed with predatory/pushy monetization in any king of game, i've read too weird stuff on the idleon subreddit, similar points are being made as in other games years prior, the only thing it changes is the people saying it
xD dont say sorry man, Im frustrated from all this stuff
Why are you being sorry
Lava should be
That's just simply not true lol. He's strong on a bad account, he's even stronger the better the account
I dont think Doot is that overpowered if Lava planned to make it less powerful in later updates. Once again, the main issue is the lack of communications (for me)
Doot works if you are W1
@crisp wave idk... its frustrating... im trying to think positive since ive spent over 2 years playing the game
I mean, if you havent unlocked the rest of the Worlds or the divinities themselves
You still get the bonuses
its hilarious the outrage at the oblivion amored horse considering the skyrim armored house creation club dlc
Well w/e you reach W5 very fast.
lets see, i have seen accountf reacign w5 that barely hit 1 or 2m dmg, probaly have shit samples, shit alchemy, shit construction, no matter how OP you guys think doot is, its not goign to make such an account become an end game account in 1 month
if ldleon stays getting updated next year people will already be accustomed to green gems/pets and more
Imagine a person with 500k dmg having more afk kills/h from you with 5mil
doesnt really make a difference long term
6 times more samples. All of your characters will have Omniphau
That means easy 3d printers, faster salt levels
Breeding eggs
He must win the lawsuits too
considering that 99% of your afk k/h come from multikill and not really afk % yeah such an account wont have such a boost
yeah, similar as DLC outrage years ago
userbase will keep at some level, not everyone is involved in reddit/discord discussion
Smaller playerbase doens't matter as long as they pay more. Steam/mobile reviews could tank the game pretty hard though
Lava will most probably nerf this with future updates. So future updates give a Doot.
Okay maybe I pushed the game why to hard I reached world 5 with dementia Armor and now I can't active anymore BC I do not enough damage ๐๐๐๐
the guy nxt to me at orange this is where doots takes you, void gear and citringes
and in mobile gaming gambling is just a feature
Iโm worried lava did this to grab the last bag then vanishing
But over longer periods, a doot account can begin to quickly gain on an endgame account without doot. To close that gap hasn't been possible before, and the fact its behind scummy gambling that determines it...
we say rebuilding player base but even since the update came out, the player base of consistnt users have remained in the same ballpark between 5k to 8k users troughout the day
agree
So go back and invest in those skills
yeah. you don't have to quit yet. just don't spend any more money on it and do some calculations and marinate on it. keep buying alchemy bubbles and claiming sailing gains. stick around and watch what lava's next moves are. either he A) acknowledges what this experiment of a patch did and does SOMETHING with it, like explaining the roadmap from now on or incorporating our ideas and putting in pity systems and making green gems somehow exchangable with in-game time played, B) acts like we're all his enemies and he's gonna make the game he wants to make, or worst of all C) unleashes another update to give more gacha money practices that we spend the rest of our idleon careers warning players about since the game is actually enjoyable if you ignore everything that incentivizes you to spend money on this game more wildly than a subscription service game like world of warcraft.
the bonuses you get from doot are straight up ridiculous.. like having doot and not having doot is two completely different games... only sampling --> leading to atoms... with doot is crazy... you basically have 50% more afk gains cause of gods and skill eff, etc...
There are legit lawsuits if people report the game, because many countries dont want their kids to gamble in a kids game
Maybe I should ๐
I mean I do that as well without doot ngl 
i agree witht he on the LONG term, its not a matter of months but more than that, and yes i agree, the fact that this is behind one of the most predatory FOMO systems i have seen is a total shit
That no doot wasnt a response to that btw lmao
Unless he says in the IdleOn Terms of Service clarify that you will gamble in here
yeah, thats a lot of great points, and one of the scenarios u mentioned will most likley occur, i wont quit. unless thats my only option...
Small civil court defending, most of that stuff are direct from the countries and are being solved in the background.
like the one guy spending 2k and still not have doot... thats crazy
It wont be me vs Lava. It will be my country's laws against IdleOn gambling
thats another day on mobile gaming
hello bugreport, i'd like to report a bug. spent $110 and haven't unlocked doot. halp.
this is the worst part of it all, the no pity system that doesnt put a stop to spending is one of the worst parts of this
the most that will come out of this is, the game willbe locked form app stores and steam store in those countries, and the rating will have to change to teen or even mature if the gambling gacha becomes more prevalent
the oen thing that could lead to real dangerous lawsuit is that countried have laws for gacha systems that they MUST INCLUDE a pity system to limit spending and this doesnt have it so that could actualy be really dangerous fo rthe game
thats honestly what "hurt" me the most.. his constant statements.. even in the game description, that this is not just another p2w game.. and then implementing this update...
This was what me angryโฆ.
(And if I think about his statement about other greedy developer it make me angrierโฆ. If angrier is a correct terms.. sorry English not my main)
He also doesnt WARN for the gacha and the gambling system of the game
I've spend about $100 and i'm stopping there. Still no doot. i'm more annoyed that even if i get doot, i can't get slime
it is a correct terms and yes i get you because the system pisses me off soo much as well, like i like the pets adn the bonuses could be ok if we had a proper system to guarantee both paying and f2p players can get them all in a decent manner
i mean, people say one thing and do another all the time, and also people will always make excuses that they're not doing the same thing, or the thing they're doing is justified
When you go in a gambling place they WARN you about addictions. They are legally obligated to do it.
same, i dont confuse that either.. but still that RNG etc was super fun... and you always had some kind of guarantee.. many of us even bought bundles regularly to support the dev for his work
tips for rift 11? (180 orb kills?) i always get 155 and thast all
book your orb skill as high as you can to increase duration
max orb talent
@surreal kernel 154 level allready :/
thats not enough by far
even the cips which were a blatant gacha were ok cause you had the chance to spend the germs you could earn f2p, you could use some money or you could jsut wait for the right rotation to GUARANTE you got the chip you wanted
how do i get more level for it?
i really dont know what happened to my survivability my bubo never had issues staying alive, and its not the prayer ๐ฎ
fury relic from salig artifacts
as i said earlier somewhere else... it would have been totally fine if he would have put doot as a bonus in gem shop for 15999 gems..
symbols of the beyond talent and arctis god all give extra levels for your talents
many of people would have bought that or saved up to do it
aint it
he could have made doot a bundle reward and put in the gem shop as the only pet to buy in the gem shop and ppl would have gone for it as well
Damn, that scales really bad
Spent about 100$ have all of them except Doot. THe custard is really good to boost.
i have lost 5 k life somehow
totally... even if it would have cost 25$ or more...
He could have done a billion things. Dont forget next rotation will have next pet and there will be shiny pets
lab maybe... or wrong talent preset?
And dont tell me "this might only be cosmetic", we both know it wont only be cosmetic
Iโm guessing cause I bought pets on my steam account is why my iOS version is just Insta crashing
25$ budle you get some gems some thing to get some more pets roll (not a whole new currency just an item) and doot
Dont get pet rolls, 2k gems is a recycled Doot
just get a Doot
doot and the cape then
The 50% exp cape
Can't buy on iOS anymre yeah
The 50% additive exp
i wonder if griffybit is being monitored by lava, he hasnt said anything about doot
the cape is mearly a symbol of look i supported the dev with this update symbol
all checkd idk ๐ฆ
Oh right, that. Just blatantly breaking Apples ToS. Not sure if its a good idea ngl (what lava did)
Think so on the update about free pet claiming
i mean.... ๐ต๏ธ
not sure what u mean, but griffy most likley isnt a spy or working with lava, but with that said its also fishy
no no.. i mean.. hasnt lava monitored many user over the past..!? surely he will keep an eye... (thats what the ๐ต๏ธ meant)
the apple update with the message wasbecause he knew for a fact iOS would take like a month to approve the new currency
Looks updated to me just has a play button
he wasnt expecting the backlash of the community over the new currency
He did a livestream. He love the update
he was just makign sure iOS players could participate on the situation
Well, he's making enough from his streams to put enough bucks in the game to buy Doot x)
but i do agree the message is not a good thing cause iOS can pull the game from the platform for breakign TOS
Palmer is a more active community member
yeah, but u know LP_N and Palmer both talked about the update and they have all one common and that is that they talk about every update, griffy is the only one who has not even mentioned it, not even in he strea,
All good, thanks for the help!
Griffy is just shipping whatever Lava says, because of his channel.
yeah, but he could have shared his thought about doot
but in his last stream he was opening pets, no? like... didnt he even say he loves it?
If his thoughts are bad he wont ssay them
21th of june looks like lava ded
He will ignore the question
Does the evolve up to 6 times mean I can get one more evolve on each plant or do I have to get the next super bit upgrade?
4 day party bender would do that to you
it says I need 920 recipes to unlock the tab 5 smithing recipes. Does that mean they do not exist? just a placeholder?
old meme, only 1 red line instead of 4
just unlock 920 recipes
Locked behind doot unfortunately
your missing out on that get to work
My first visit to w5 was a sad one. Going to gen chat for real info
it actually says.. you need to unlock 920 more doot to access tab
Lol itโs a placeholder mate
Dev didnt have the time to implement the fishing summer event that is left hanging. Or the W5 arena and boss,miniboss
i dont think griffy has doot yet
or the divinities that are left empty
The whole 999 level thing is everywhere
or the gaming that has half the bonuses it can give
or the VIP library that has nothing and ive reached 999/999%
He literally had no choice on the game updates to release Doot
It was one way direction
Holy shit the man isn't a god, he doesn't have infinite time to implement everything at once
Stop being a big whingey baby
starting my long journey to 5k now btw..
Meh I didnโt even get an answer ๐
Thats why he shouldnt create Doot and go the safe way
Oh well he did that, cant change it now, get over it and stop crying
the journey is pretty fast until u hit 6k, then for me it slowly went down
Defending your bf?
did GT bubble got nerfed??? i swear it was giving a higher boost before
same
@signal granite have you seen my recent achievement post regarding slab btw?
ok thanks i had animpresion that iw gave a stronger buff at lower levels
look at the xp buff
im not even goign to ask how you got that much xDDD
lvling gt ๐
active bubo xDD
hell yeah, and for 1 month i checked in every 2 hours or so to click gt
Nope, show me
What you got your cauldron levels at?
POG
but 1360 is not possible for me.. i am almost finished
I should be able to have them
I have a 19.1% base chance to evolve plants, estimate average time for a t5 to transform into a t6?
That with lab lit up?
yupp
Thanks my man
hope you can make it fast mate
its worth it, i love bubo
I should be able to with a few dungeons but meeeeeeeeeh
Childs.
Agreed on that point
yuki and dungeons.. xDDD
Dungeons are easy
Got a bug (I think?) where I can't upgrade my weps above lvl 4
And you cant do HH alone, so meh
I got a question about the gaming bonus which says "if you have no prayers equipped gain 1/5 of all prayer bonuses"
Does this give giant mob spawns? If not what other prayers aren't working
last 2 plants to evolve to 6... come on already...!!!
So just gave up upgrading them and r50 powerup don't work so meh cba to carry on bleh
lets just say that that bonus never beats prayers being active
in short... its trash
Hey guys, just reached w5, about divinity, is there a way to get 2 or more xp/hour in the start?
oh man, i kinda feel sorry for you ๐
I guess you could use bigbubble to increase xp
Damn, thought it would be pretty cool ngl
its a noob trap tbh
haha why? have no clue
Still no response from Lava? 
its slow ๐ put all in divinity and 1 in active, wait til lvl 40 divinity and start playing
divinity exp gain bonuses,
I sse how... Gonna go reequip all my prayers again...
just had to complain I guess xD
complaining is like a 2000% dr boost xDDD
do that.. and start not unequipping.. that way you get used to slower progression but if you reach certain thresholds you perform way better
Ha...
So be a mage.
Equip + exp potions (because they boost all exp gain). also equip food cards (i forgot to do this)
Spend gems on certain divinity upgrades if u wish.
oh ok, thx for the tip ๐
by that mentality everyone will get doot next roll I guess xD
nah doot is a 0.28% xDDD and is not affected by base DR xDDD
just make sure you don't have dimwit equipped on someone you're not actually skilling on
complainign only affects base DR
0ร 2000 is still 0 xD
didnt know about the potions for skill exp, thx a lot
Not sure which prayers are good to have equipped except giant mobs, i havent unlocked all of them yet
did everyone for fun just cheat?
I actually found out about it by memeing my 2nd Jman
Luckily i read what they do cause i am never sure which does what
the blacklist was removed
midas... the sample prayer.. the skill eff prayer.. hell even the xp vs mob hp prayer
the dmg vs lower def prayer
really, it shouldnt have...
there are a lot.. you figure that out ๐
should is subjective, no?
I'm doing a "exp converter" meme for jman/vman till i get bored of it (spoiler, exp converter is a big multiplier from skill exp > class exp, but theres no good source of exp to put into it) so i tested with skill xp and it improves it.
Will do, Thanks for the advice!
hmm... getting closer but not there yet...
closer to?
yo anynone got the same problem with king doot ? he doesnt work on some of my characters
how to get this one?
If its particularly Maestro then yes
Move behind the mole
He's got a little gap behind him
well not only maestro it doesnt work with maestro dk and bb
mo doots mo problems
hmmm
You need at least 1 Div lvl
ahhh aight ty
Like on each character ๐๐ป
jeez
Ok, need to compare a bit: what's everyone's vmans lowest skill value?
I'll start 71 fishing/trapping
90 fishing
idk off the top of my head, haven't gone fishing in a while
it's okay ๐
I just pushed it that high cuz I accidentally left my BB at fish with full event food when I took a break a while back and they got stupid high
good way to push fishign with vman is to use transfusion and push your skill to get 200k eff at least
yeah balancing max EXP gains with minimum 100% efficiency is the strat
not worth going for 2x or anything beyond that cuz it doesn't give more exp while afk
is there a flat number of all efficiencies or is it different for every skill?
enough to 100% the highest resource of that skill
ah. yeah that would be different numbers.
e.g. 25m for chopping Dandielogs
200k for krakens (fishing works a bit different, just need enough to get krakens)
10m for catching Dust Motes
and 50m for mining Dreadlo
none of the other skills that count for maestro damage (w1-3 skills only) get more EXP by reaching a certain minimum efficiency (if they even have an efficiency stat)
Does anyone have the 2nd page of the infinite refinery chart?
@hot sapphire Larry needs to be 501+, else if at 500 it can bug and still give +1's
I need a new alchemy goal too since i finished larry im a bit all over the place..
mine is still at 95% even tho i could be done with it in 3 days ๐ idk just never felt like the 5% was worth it
Idk i just instantly got it to 105% instead xD
alright next goal, and you must take it!
Btw make sure you spend your daily atom attempts before buying the upgrade from atom collider as it refills ur attempts
It worked!
@dapper prism reach lvl 1000 in construction xp bubble
and push the cog production speed bubble as well soyou can 1 tick produce purple cogs xD
yeh thought about sampling mustaches to get the bubble up. So con will be next week once i get my 1b vials done
for which one?
ยจmining and chopping
Guess ill start producing nails xD
Been leveling and setting up all my chars to lvl 100 smithing
mage is best 450 and 900 on hocus pocus
ur samples will thank u
same for mining
thats kind of the worth it cap
I did the sneaky stealing achievement and got it. But I just checked all the shops and it didn't increase by 25%
gotta wait a day
3.5 month progress since i joined
https://i.imgur.com/XajPoHk.png
For my next shop reset? I guess that makes sense. Too bad it just happened an hour ago ๐
itll have increased cap at restock yuh, bummer though
thats reall good bro, good workk!
yeah those are good ones to start with now
im almost done with mining
646? isnt cap on 2nd bubble 3x ?
purple is lab and div
so purple is 6x
has all the anti dooters been cleansed?
@dapper prism it isn't x3 yet 
Oh wow, then it must scale super slow/bad xD
Its been like 3 days with happy rock on and still no 6th evo...
Since like 188 is already 2.6x
lol 3 days 
thats rough
I swear the rate for 6th evos is way worse than it says in game
So im assuming this takes forever? I wanna go back to having rock off
it's been months since I unlocked them and I've been near to above 20% base rate the whole time
wish i had motivation to play
This is like my 4th round of gaming with chems like this:
https://i.imgur.com/qqkp6ZJ.png
And i havnt gotten one (well 1x t6 but that was before these rounds of attempts for the mushroom)
and only got one of them, for the basic leaf plants
but lava added such shitty p2w update and not rly wanna login anymore
So basically pointless if i still need to grind bits...
anyone HH?
could go for 1
I mean, kitty does give more bits on average if you're active. also depends on what you need/going for if it's game changing. def try and get snail asap.
cheese 17
1min omw
sweet rememeber to change ur loadout, i forget sometimes
I got snail. But this method takes up half the room of the board
Waaaaiiiiittt was the refinery infographics posted by someone who was banned and now it's gone? D:
line up your imports better
No
it forces plants closer
Oh interesting
easier to use cactus
Ithought they just spawn under em
Do you have page 1 as well?
was changed during qol update
they still spawn under snail though
if that was pinned message can be
not sure if they delete when people exit
yup here they are
the pin shoul dbe in w3/4 channel
but i just post it here when ppl ask cause its easier xDDD
Holy shit how has he not said anything about whatโs going on?
if the person that had the pin got banned like trully banned and post deleted thenyeah it should have been nuked
i know you want to try and be funny and sarcastic but this one is a bit too much
People just trying too hard
this one is too much try and to little actual funny or satirical
after this you will not see chem t1 the same anymore 
Its how i always saw it
I am talking about myself
well i dont rly visit gaming anyway
i dont rly visit game too 
Love running HH with competent people
cant believe i didnt get a voucher....
Lol, sadly on vman dmg wasnt as amazing as usual, although vman is like 1000x better than maestro due to aoe spell xD
Sorry i got 3 ๐
?mute 707346363633106989 nsfw
bigdaddy818#3277 was muted. | nsfw
dammit, heard of sharing is caring ๐
- level doesn't affect most Vman skill including Eclipse (and it's not +max skill). So as far as I know there is still no way to 250
Reminder to change card+set back
Didnt realize it went higher than IV xD i've only cared for the slab stuff
it doesnt
Ah
u cant buy V
since i have all of my characters past that quest is my slab screwed?
and there is no way to ever fix this i assume?
What are your enchant % at roughly?
what lol... hmm lemme check
Just because i realized mine are still kinda low xD
https://i.imgur.com/UHnTXji.png
yeah thos are low on mine too
dont care much lol, doesnt matter for my weekly
but u know
I know i should unlock those classes and get the rank ups there 
im ready to buy the next stuff when lava makes it
I need more credits myself ๐ฆ
getting close to having everything maxed though
Now only HP + MoveSpeed left
i got it all maxed, every aspect
im such a flexer
my shirts cant hold me back
lol
im hungry
Mhm, same now
i think i have leftovers from our bbq
is there a way to keep elemental sorc from freezinf when active afk?
i dont know how many times, but for 7 different games ive watched the office in the BG lol
what u mean?
Filter main drops out
do bitty litty on multiple DK stack?
god vman samples are disgusting
yeah
makes maxing vials a lot easier ๐
I was at top 3 for highest cap sample with vman ;D before the IE leaderb went bananas
up to W3 mats im getting 1m samples
easy
u know how to get every inch out of it?
i can share my tips now as the leaderboard is gone
maybe
kill world bosses
max talent books for mob respawn + multikill
defecus + doot and such dont count I dont think
get MK+portals to 291 ๐
yes
just more damage for more multikill tiers
DMG > MK cards/chips in most cases
ofc, my tip is ofc max every important talent, make 2 sets one for multi and 1 for AFK, go all the way as far as u can and try to have like 20-30 sec left on ur run, then go to ur sample spot, switch to afk mode, hit the kill talent to proc super multi and then sample
yeah I think I've got all I can for now
That's a seperate run imo
push for portal count on one day
other day get samples
well thats how i got to number 3 on leaderbord cap sample
the next big step would be to get to troll
Well no you want enough damage to get to W3 boss with a couple minutes left assuming you're doing all your samples
Because your samples need to be taken with your attack buff up
So you have to account for its 40 second cd as well
Do "1000 hours played" and "Bitty Litty" stack if you have multiple DK? Or is it just highest level applied?
37 
So its rush chiz with full damage and then swap to afk set and use the buff and do 2-3 samples
No, none of those talents ever stack
That's kind of what I figured. Thank you.
yeah, well i dont use the buff 1 minute prior to sample
Then push to whatever mob you wanna sample next and start sampling again when buff is back up
so its ready
Repeast as needed/as time allows
Always highest talent.
your 2nd ES, SB, DK sit in lab on skill preset talents with those type of things maxed to maintain those buffs at all time kinda thing
last time i got to 57 points for my sample a
All you need to do is kill boss 1-3 then you have 5 mins to sample xD
I have those on a second preset , since they don't need to be always on.
You have to have a pretty beefy vman to have that much time left after 3 bosses
I just swap over when I collect bits
Unless you're sampling on nobi
the number of total lvls cleared is important, it multiplies ur sample
But then that means smaller samples
No it doesnt
Portal count does nothing for samples
Okay Printer go brrr dont fail me now
Only boss kills for the respawn talent
well, it worked for me when i tested, and i am talking about highest spore sample
Portal count literally has no impact on samples whatsoever
still good
You gain mob respawn % for every boss you kill
And you gain multikill when you use the attack skill
And thats all that matters
hmm, strange, i swear it worked for me when i have tested several times, maybe i have found something secret
MK Talent is just based on talent level
Portal talent is based on your void run and how many bosses (w1-3 usually, hard to get to w4 atm?)
Probably just did something different between the runs
explain why 38 points gave me less points with w3 boss clear vs 57 points w3 boss clear
you had done something differently
not points, sample
You fucked up the first sample somehow
You must have forgotten something
i forgot my santa hat and wings on my last run xD
hmm, maybe... i thought the highest clear lvl was my gain
New game dev just dropped
then go to the place, sample....
priorities for merit shop?
still radio silence, right?
go to the place, use the multikill talent, sample
How many cards does it take to get the forge cards to 5*?
lol
Somewhat situational,
How far are you into div now? Did you buy gemshoip loot pile?
The attack skill that gives the multikill buff is like 75% of your sample.
My opinion: Respawn, Loot Pile, Sailining, Atom, Talent, and then stat overload
Use the skill take 2-3 samples and then go to the next mob and wait for the skill to come back up
Then do it again until all samples done
Im about level 6 on div for around 7 characters, leveling up my 10th, pushing on my 8th, fishing for bloaches on my 1st
I havent bought loop pile gem shop

Holy fuck that's a jump
Although I can buy it
It's more about what god you're at/on
but i assume 1st xD
Im on arcterus, going for the third atm
Ah nice
The div grind is so annoying that i like the XP one but i don't know if its just additive or multiplicative.
The loot pile can be a great QoL early on as well, since you'll only have like 5 pile but a bunch of boats, which means that pile will fill within 4 or 6h. (ALSO, do NOT use the SB talent bottom left)
Actually now days i guess my opinion is different, since all you need is level 10 div. and that stance for the reset of a really long time xD So XP becomes irrelevant for a while. Loot pile may help a bit more.
Respawn rate is obviously amazing but depends on the class you're playing/pushing with (usually bubo, es, dk) which all have semi-insta respawn anyways
Only class you really care about hitting last zone w5 first with would be bubo
is there anything I can do if my game freezes in a dungeon?
So go with loot pile first, then probably xp due to some talents scaling based on level.
Okay thank you
just need to respec my SB's since I used that bottom left talent lol
next time, restart the game before starting dungeon runs is all I can say
To put it into perspective.
If your loot pile is 6.
If you have 2 ships, driving 2h. They would do 3 laps @2h each => 6h to fill up your lootpile of 6.
If you use the talent, it will be at 5 chests. and the boats will not continue.
However WITHOUT the talent. your loot pile will be 6 and your boats go an extra lap, and stay at your dock with an extra chest. Meaning at 8h you'd have 8 chests.
This gets more essential as you progress and have more boats. Like if you max that your loot pile is 10 i think?
So with 5 boats, your pile is full in 4h, but without the talent its 6h with 15 loot. With talent it would be 9. As the chance of replacing the chests isn't really good until you are afking often like a "daily" thing i guess.
Is it in poor taste to put a lava helmet on one of the people in that missing submarine
Maybe whats where he went
Any meme about the submarine is bad taste
Thats debatable
heyyo, so do anyone know if its possible to calculate the actual dropchance active farming something?
What submarine
The yellow submarine
That tells me nothing
The one with the billionaires that went to view the wreck of the Titanic
Recently?
(The yellow submarine is a beatles song)
People paid 250k to go in a sketchy sub to see the titanic, and the sub went missing. Now people constantly make jokes/memes about them.
Doot doesnโt give div point Unless actually in lab?
How exactly does polythesium work? I havent unlocked omniphau to delevel it yet, im just curious on how it works since its starting level for me is 30<
Pins
Bear god doesnโt count 
Ahh im an idiot, i forget pins exist.
I believe someone made a sheet for this. Somewhere in #1084911530417606656
Guess no easy god ranks for me
Alright i've been gone for a couple days, has the pure hatred for companions died out any?
this is for afk, what i read
Think the biggest issue atm is the radio-silence ๐ฆ
Alright, remembered wrong them
So i since my starting level is 10<, i only need 1 point in polythism? Is this applied to everyone or just ES
Ahh yeah I could see that being a problem.
Poly always starts at 0, no?
what do you mean starting lvl? it starts at 0 and only goes up 1 at a time (or whatever multiplier you have on when you click to add points). it doesn't get affected by bonus levels because of the type of talent it is.
everyone gets the bonus div (i believe), only ES gets the extra god
Itโs been 103 hours since the update and no word?
6,184 minutes
371,051 seconds
Ahh i miss remembered then. Does poly apply if its level 0?
honestly, i don't know if you get a god a 0 or not. technically it should link to 1st god a lvl 0 but i never checked if it does or not.
Yea should be the snake at 0
easy enough to check but im not by my computer atm to confirm
Doesn't work at 0, a talent is considered off when 0 even though it states snek
Hey guys, had a quick. I want to start Zow on BB W1-W3,, just unlocked Nobisect. Does Nobisect + Killers Brightside + monster decimator stack? Also what Cards and star signs should i run? Anything else i should know? Appreciate the advise.
so no news uh?
Idk about the cards and stars but they do stack, nobi lab & monster decjmator
...Is this achievement literally impossible now that hitting 100 spawns a plunder mob?
Im assuming i run MK on cards and star signs
nobisect and killers brightside and such works all at the same time, but doesnt really affect each other to call โstackโ
They all work differently
I had to take it off
How do you do that?
Just reset talents like normal on vman
OH YEAH it comes from that skill, I forgot, I thought it was part of the QoL lolol
nobi makes any kills you have 2x, lab node makes any kills after applying nobi another 2x. Decimator works before nobi and lab node, but only applies on base kills so the increment is much much smaller
wen 3rd preset
next batch of companions
โUnlocks 3rd preset and +100 all skillsโ
next companion applies all the presets all the time
strong, but not as doot
4th multiplies all the cards by 2
I mean like half of them are passive anyway at this point from the rift
Its like a weaker slug level of boost
Will be hard to top doot
Need to cash out big up front
Farming with ES probably faster than holding button for 10m
press and hlod down to green stack it then
press and hold for trickling particles
Double alchemy bubbles gonna go crazy next rotation
Lava just places a 5$ bundle on top of the โPlayโ button every month, effectively making idleon subscriptions to play
He just turns off the bundle when the app is in apple review
double all skills, and infinite talent points
unlocks 10th character he is already a lv 400 vman
iโd like to get double benefits from attached bubbles and div gods on top of sheepie and doot
and 50 maps speedran
nah 70 letยดs make it stronger just in case
obviously placeholder
coolio
There is another blank placeholder talent as well
since when?
It was there for quite some time
Only recently when people started to reach 999% vip talent, we just got to see it
With vman marrow talent, its much easier to raise meal levels for the vip
looks legit, lets get the new books. they are stronker stronks
It doesnt do anything at the moment, but doesnt hurt to get the levels ready ahead of time
A couple weeks ago I unlocked the power of poison bubo. I said "wow"
And I have now unlocked the power of auro bubo
Wow
Went from level 280 to 310 in like 20 minutes
auro bubo, best bubo
what god do i start to put my chars to the +1exp
As in what god to use with Mantra?
important thing is to get tenteyecle to 3 seconds
Then find a strong map to grind on (I'm on oranges) with a low range weapon (I'm using boxing gloves) and then just go at it
So whatโs the go with the evolutions, does up to 6 times mean I have one level left on all plants?
well my auro is auto-killing the oranges, it takes several seconds for poison to do the job
probably after arctis but asap really I think
Whereโs the best place to find builds gonna start working on unlocking maestro
Idleon toolbox has some good builds
Yeah, but itโs not usually worth waiting for
Thanks pal
Hmmmmโฆ Iโve literally got a field of mushrooms all on katsuni. How long to get the 6th you reckon?
How long did it take you to get that field?
There's a calc for T6 time in tips and tricks
There's a calculator you can use to figure out how long on average you'd need to wait
#1106590058947035247 message
Also having a board of T5 is usually not good. Set aside 5-10 plants and rotate the rest for chemicals
Yeah, it takes a while
plants go up to t8 right?
I think t6
if you do the math on the plants screen, i think it goes much higher
Yes but you can only get to t6 atm
So you werenโt wrong
There is a method in-game to get T7 plants but it's costed too high for anyone to have it currently.
300M red bits for T7 unlock
Isnโt the 300m red bits upgrade for t6?
Is lava still insulting the player base with radio silence
Have we found a game to migrate too yet?
There's nothing like idleon, that's what's so frustrating
You can get T4 without superbits, right?
And then there are 3 superbit bonuses for unlocking an extra tier, the most expensive of which being 300M red bits
What's the recommended percentage to gamble unlocking the next plant mutation
Ew. Even that statement is cringe.
He just took advantage of the fact that he is the only one like that.
Iโm not sure, Iโm probably missing something.
As early and often as possible
That's what I'm saying that's the worst part about it. I even used to justify spending money on idleon because lava was so different from other devs
And I genuinely enjoyed the game
So like, here's a list of 6 tiers available to me currently, even though I don't have the last superbit evo bonus yet (which will give me T7 access)
Confirms Iโm missing something 
do you know what the gold star is from?
Is that better than the blue?
Like, blue is x2 from printer, right? But what is the gold star?
Bunny god Divinity
Add points (Add) or stand under elephant (Remove)
so this is bear and bunny then?
Lab and bunny
Is lava going to add a colo and miniboss to world 5
Probably a colo, no guarantees on the miniboss though
But itโll be quite a while
Ok
what does Organic Box do in gaming import tab?
oh yeah that's what I meant haha
This update was the mini world boss
Omfg finally rolled 100% for hare. Now just need to afk for 100 hours ๐ซฃ
what are the odds of 1hr/2hr/4hr candies for this thing?
Can I get a dub in the chat yโall
Big dubs
Next stop GOAT
@green eagle now you only have to hear me complain about goat 
what is the full list of inventory bags? im missing one and can't find it on the wiki 
nvm, it's peeper pouch. thank you
Glad to help lol

GL
Regular chests are 0.04%, not even a thing
Nope. I'm down to the last 3 artifacts and I just don't bother looking to see if I get anything lol'
why do these have stats lmao
one of those rare stat display fluke
Who knows? Lol. Iโve seen statues and golden foods with stats.
it happens once in a while where it displays a stat of another item
that is top tier, now i just need to equip all 2.2 million i have for 18.3million wis
maybe then i'll have enough choppin efficiency for maple logs
Imagine the dmg
From that wp
What is this? W5 mini boss location?
possible boss entrance, but doesn nothing atm
Def gonna be the boss
Oh. Okay thanks
cralwers and wurms are actually the side path like the rams and bones in w3
New boss meschanic is tied to gacha, spend 100 red gems for a 2% chance to vs him
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WaterTornado1
is it worth it to grind pong
1.87% with 7.5k does it scale pretty well? am I sitting here until I hit 50k?
honestly though! i could 1-shot most of the game from just those 2 stats if not literally everything in the game
i once had a hotdog with +23 weapon power xDDDD and i think i foolishly sold it or turned it into a peanut xDD
I like stealing memes
Thatโs only funny if youโre not actually an gambling addict.
If i use the style that give 1 divinity exp per hour to every character and I also using a goat god, does the other characters still get the exp?
I put that character at lab
yes, i have left one character like that and the others do occasionally level up
So the other characters will receive the exp when I'm on a player that using manthra style?
Pong does not scale very well. It's a bonus, but not a massive one
For example, if character1 is using a goat god and in a lab, and I afk 5 hour, does character2 get the exp when I'm play on character2, or do i need to play on character1 first?
check into character1, next time you switch to character2 they will have 5 hours of exp
You need to collect the afk time from the character using mantra style before the exp can be redeemed onto anyone else.
Ohhh, so when I checked into my other characters after I checked in into the character that using the manthra , does it say how much i got in the afk collect panel ?
No
It will get added to them, but it won't show up on their afk gain screen because they didn't earn it themselves. This also means it cannot be doubled by the double-exp proc chance you might get from bubbles or biggie card
nop, if you want a simple explanation, mantra works exactly the bubo lab exp share talent does, once you claim on bubo the exp for the other char is given but its not shown anywhere
dont even know if you even see a level up message for divinity when using mantra
would be nice if it said what was gained from the other characters' actions. maybe one day it will be a small quality of life foot note in an update
ihave never seen or noticed the mantra level up message for divinity but i do know my chars were levelig up for it
Ohhh, thank you for clarifying
it does the level up animation but its often behind the away gains screen
if you click fast you see it
Did you ring?
xDDDD
ios still cannot gamba?
Sure you can just use steam or the web version and remember to let Apple know that lava encouraged you to do so while you're at it
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Did anyone figure out the problem with 3d prints not registering purple?
Wasn't it just a visual bug?
wasnt the div guide already a thing
Gold, not purple
Visual bug maybe?
Printer colors bug out sometimes and from my experience it happens mostly with ES
Regardless its purely visual
wow. Ancient and Eldritch Fury both in one day
You still print the correct amount
It might have... Mysteriously disappeared.. or been slightly modified by whoever posted it...
๐ต๏ธ I wonder why
Even the one that was just posted is a bunch of links to dead accounts' comments.
Congrats and f youโฆ Iโve been trying for weeks to get eldritch
same. I've had 15 of my ships and been checking every 2 hours with sailing bubble on everyone. haha
So is that still a thing with sheepie? Does that bubble apply to all now?
For you
Just use the web version 
It was but they had to steal it and repost it because they banned the creator of it
Yeah I was getting at that
good game keep supporting
no ask question
Figured it was a setup for someone to say it
lol
Saying the quiet part out loud

The RNG gods really do have favourites
I wish lava would do this rn
What day are we on now?
5
New to world 5 what should I push?
is there a chart for multikill?
Anyone knows how much meals i need to vman receive more than 1% exp from blood Marrow?
maybe like 200 or 300 meal levels. Dunno as i was way past that level
divinity
then do lab+divinity once you get the proper gods
Search on idleoninsight
Depends on your points in the talent. And no I donโt have that memorized so saying your points wonโt help. Just do a log(desired speed) with the base being the talent result
Once meal levels go around 1000+ marrow starts being noticeable
How do u all use the chemical plants efficiently
for what i have learned, just stockpile them untillyouhave like 6 or 7 then slowly proc each one and claim all your things after each one and hopefully you will continue to get more and more from the sprinkler
I just used em as i got em once they got level 3
Every chemical u have is another slot u cant use to try for more chemicals
welp thats all what i can for now 
Is left hand of learning specific to skills or is it based on total skill level
skill specific
What level does leveling up become hard? Iโm level 325
Been getting like 15 levels a day
around 420ish
I randomly went from a 40 million oak log print down to 25 million and I cannot figure out why
spam that grind time
check your prayer, bubble, equips, cards, god
I really donโt know of anything Iโve changed. The character has just been afk-ing the past few days while Iโve upgraded things, so the print count shouldโve gone up
tips and tricks has a list too of what you should consider before sampling
Nah itโs level 103 chopping and my maestro is 105
Did u delete doot?
Hm?
I ran out of actual useful suggestions so I'm being silly
Lol thanks
That means i will be sitting in gaming for ling
I tried a little lol
i have seen chem chaisn that have kept ppl clicking for about 40 mins xDDD just ask buflo xDD
So late game gaming is about quantity
shuld i toss these away?
Unironically, i think late game gaming is about getting lucky on a nugget
Anyway someone come with me to kill 500 rats
They aren't useful, but i kept them for funzies. If u dont want them for that then yea, dump em
what world
Is that THE doot?!
Yap itโs hik
I'm low on storage lol
Man I really donโt know, I just looked at the checklist and I havenโt changed anything
I will simply be sad
Lava code rounding error
have you equipped log bubble and starsignn?
Didnโt change them
Didnโt change equipment, cards, foods, anything that I know of
And I even leveled a card up so it shouldโve gone up
Bro some guy named James Dev was typing, and that's a fucking hilarious name
Thanks bro.
ITS HIM!
any tips on what to put on fighting mman?
library checkouts
Bruh
The vial talent snapshots (max level is raised perm), so you can max it out, then reset talents.
I donโt know if it was a game bug or what
I just teleported around, and I saw my efficiency double and my printer is back to normal
Yea honestly, beef up talents 2 and 4. Spend some points in 9 and pump the stuff it increases
got it will do
You mean besides the bormal way?
Using a fishing overlay can help.
Ik bro
What isbthat
If u dont want to use an overlay
Therea a spot u can stand on the 1nd fish map near the left portal
This has a fishing overlay, looks like this
And then use the planks on the dock corresponding to tge power bars on the left
And measure where u will go
Do i download it or something
That doesn't seem very... Allowed lmao
lava reluctantly approved
Download zip, after clicking code dropdown
He also said he wouldn't resort to scummy gaming practices and look where we are now
Other than that, follow the instructions.
clearly that fishing tool is going to steal my idleon account so you can trade my doot to yourself (/s)
I hope its rhe jr mod who saw my doot meme and didnt dome me
RR
I dm'd u a meme
That i dare not post
good shit

Its almost certainly gonna get me banned
I dont wanna do it for no reason
Ita like a final silly
And if i go, who will shitpost in my place
Tony?
tony got got
moment of silence for tony? nah just a dead channel
Yay may first set of troll/magma ๐
https://i.imgur.com/bzJfDN2.png
this chat has been more dead than Idle Skilling's general chat since the endgamers got banned ๐
can you stack the poison tower's poison?
the reality is, this channel seems to die whenever certain ppl come around xDDD
it was quite lively during most of the day with ppl disscusing and asking things and asking help and all
I do what trucido said, but only at tier 4. Generally will weed out crap plants, use sprinkler till empty, use cactuses (if there isn't enough room to save good plants (berri/evergreen/chem) and cactuses without wasting sprinkler growths, just use cactus before), use rest of plants (aside from berri/evergreen/chem that are below t4), use log, repeat the above till no log games left, then use the biggest chem plant and repeat as needed. The best way to get more chem plants is sprinkler, and having PO gaming on your char as even a little bit of time can result in a ton of spawns. Chem plant has about 1% spawn rate.
Timezones also exist

@bright current don't go and get banned please ๐ฅฒ
well i know you're not referring to Lava coming around, since he.... doesn't
memoriez where the lines on teh left correspond to with landmarks like the shopkeepers poles etc on the leftmost node in 2nd zone etc., and just lots of practice. Shortgame is just about practice
yeah timezones exist, tough its not really what i mean xDDD the channel is lively most of the entire day except for a few ours depending on who is around to talk xDD
grats. good feeling finally having the first set done, they aren't cheap to make
once nullo starts to flow so you can craft the troll it feels nice to upgrade them to magma
+3 slab
omg 13 printer go brrrr proc life is goooood
finally got it
i still say those stamps are a myth xDDD
swolmole
I didn't know, I've been asking this question since last friday and nobody answered me
and there were no indicators that it was stacking
Hm, I wonder why..... maybe its because the mods banned all the endgamers
why?
but yeah its really sad that barely anyone in this chat helps anymore :(
huge controversy

