lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[unborn yew]

I mean, I have everything grinding.
Most characters minus my BloodB are all 370+

[fervent solstice]

unlock?

if you trade your last [insert pet] you lose the bonus

[grave plume]

:D

[fervent solstice]

just do duplicates basically

[unborn yew]

That would piss off F2Ps even more.

[lyric sequoia]

Would be pretty pointless if traded pets didn’t provide their bonus. No one would trade

[solid haven]

oh, so you need to keep them to have the bonus?

[fervent solstice]

no point to trading if you don't get bonuses

yea if you recycle it

the last one you have

of that type you no longer have th ebonus

[unborn yew]

Niiiiice

[scarlet bay]

why would it work any other way than "you trade x pet for y pet, you gain y pet bonus, other person gains x pet bonus" lol

[solid haven]

accidently recycle doot? :P

[unborn yew]

2,000 gems.

[fervent solstice]

or pull a palmer 🫡

[unborn yew]

Decent chance to get another Doot right? Right? 💀

[grave plume]

rip palmer

[lyric sequoia]

Just have 2 doots, ezpz

[unborn yew]

What did Palmer do?

[grave plume]

deleted his doot

[fervent solstice]

nuked his account

[unborn yew]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG

[fervent solstice]

cogs/obols eveything

[lyric sequoia]

On purpose?

[unborn yew]

What a hero.

[grave plume]

yes on purpose

[fervent solstice]

unique items

all food items from events etc

[unborn yew]

He literally deleted his account, why? In protest?

[grave plume]

yeah

[mild wadi]

Yep and moved on

[solid haven]

can you delete the account?

[grave plume]

not really, but you can make it unplayable, which he did

[fervent solstice]

he couldn't support the changes

[unborn yew]

How do you make it unplayable?

[scarlet bay]

damn i was gonna ask palmer to add me on discord before he left

rip

[unborn yew]

Sell everything?

[fervent solstice]

but hes too honorable to say bad things about it on discord/to lava

and a generally kind person

[fervent solstice]

just join his discord

[grave plume]

sell everything, nuke the event food so you can't properly print, delete samples, basically get rid of every timed item that is required for end game maint

[unborn yew]

Dam.

[solid haven]

that still hasn't bricked everything, just minor bonuses

[unborn yew]

Why would you do that to yourself...

[grave plume]

food isn't minor

[grim torrent]

oh damn using event food for samples, why didn't I think of that

[unborn yew]

[lunar reef]

I get the update is crap but that seems a bit excessive

[grave plume]

event food is very important

[fervent solstice]

its all the symbolic stuff he could do shrug

but obols/cogs are big anyways

[grave plume]

obols are huge yeah, obolrs take like a year to build, maybe more

[stiff geyser]

hmm... is it possible to get the flag to last indefineitly?

[grave plume]

no

[fervent solstice]

some people have played this game for a very very long time

and become very invested, making guides an everything

[grave plume]

no, and it owulddn't matter ifd you could , it reseets count

[fervent solstice]

the more invested, the more painful

[stiff geyser]

it gets annoying to see dozen or so plunder coins and its gets wasted.

[grave plume]

i have 15k hours logged on steam lol

[unborn yew]

Getting rid of obols is basically Game Over.

[stiff geyser]

my gap atm is 20 seconds.

[unborn yew]

I'm glad iOS doesn't time how long I spend in the game.

[grave plume]

you can get it down to about 3 seconds

[unborn yew]

It's probably over 2,000 hours.

Maybe even 3 at this point.

[solid haven]

in mmos you can literally delete character, now that is a game over :P

[fervent solstice]

well active afk makes it hard to tell but yea still alot

[grave plume]

i was close

[unborn yew]

Any intention of stopping, Alloxya?

Or you gonna stick with us? 🙂

[grave plume]

i'm pretty undecided rn

[deft grail]

"I place a huge importance on player feedback. I host weekly polls, and have implemented over 200 Player Suggestions straight from my discord!"

... i just realized

[fervent solstice]

a lot of ppl are waiting till lava says anything, or like a week

[deft grail]

how this number is like, just regular QoL obvious features

[unborn yew]

I'm gonna stick, and see where future updates go.

[deft grail]

fixing design/ui flaws not "im listening!"

[stiff geyser]

lot of things are not obvious until pointed out

[grave plume]

did you get doot?

[stiff geyser]

what i like to call the hootagator awareness.

[unborn yew]

Yes but that's irrelevant of why I'm sticking.

[autumn jay]

lol

[unborn yew]

I enjoy the game itself. With or without Doot I would have stuck.

[deft grail]

ha

[cerulean field]

lol

[lunar reef]

W5 Music when

[barren lance]

Still no comment from lava?

[grave plume]

gotcha, it does make it easier to stay though, harder to stay without it i think

[fervent solstice]

comes out at some point yea, i don't remember when w4's came out

[civic creek]

Do we have a formula how the "base value" of sprouts rises with each fertilizer level?

[fervent solstice]

if it was at w5 or before

[stiff geyser]

wait there's music in the game? (sorry i had the game muted for the longest time)

[fervent solstice]

its 7% or so

[bright current]

never will be. most likely scenario is he wait for everyone to stop fighting, or bann everyone who's too vocal, then emerge a week later like nothing happened

[unborn yew]

Probably for most I imagine, yeah.

[pastel bramble]

4 days more and ill be at 1bn

[fervent solstice]

each time, multiplicatively

[unborn yew]

Dam, nice.

[deft grail]

the only way to correctly continue playing this game is to let the gacha crap sit in its corner, dont even take your free rolls

[civic creek]

Ah, so a fixed rate. Thanks 🙂

[unborn yew]

I don't think he'll do that.

[civic creek]

and the cost?

[fervent solstice]

see #1106590058947035247 for some more stuff in detail like chances etc

[random lake]

yo guys any updates?

[civic creek]

oh, nice, thanks

[fervent solstice]

idk on cost, probaly like 30-60% multiplicative

[bright current]

day 3 atm, only a bit more.

or he comes along and plays the victim

[solid haven]

I personally think Lava will need to do something to prevent such issues in future. Would be a shame if such a fine game would die because of missmanagement...

[fervent solstice]

later in that chat we talk on mutation and evo chances etc

[grave plume]

i honestly could have seen myself playing for another 15k but idk now

[fervent solstice]

you mean another fine game

[deft grail]

u must be new here 🙂

[random lake]

damn, sadge

[solid haven]

well, i am comparing idle game to other idle games... (and most idle games nowadays have currency you can buy...)

[fervent solstice]

ama music dope, fishing is nice, mining and w3 town are chill

[unborn yew]

Anyway!

[deft grail]

this update just blows any previous debate that this discord has seen regarding p2w out of the water

[unborn yew]

Let's move on from the update topic.

[fervent solstice]

some of the later w1 zone mucis are nice too

[unborn yew]

Let's leave that for gen chat.

We're the sophisticated chat 😄

[deft grail]

never going to happen

[unborn yew]

Where the printer artistocrats live.

[covert sphinx]

interms of statues is it w1>w5>w4>w2>w3? (endgameish)

[fervent solstice]

lava made another game called idleskilling (IS)

[unborn yew]

Idle Skilling slaps.

[fervent solstice]

but ill let you ask the pitchfork channels about those

[solid haven]

Will you say you had more fun with idle skilling than Idleon?

[deft grail]

another game completely butchered by its latest update

[bright current]

lets not. because if we leave it then the problem is swept under the rug

[deft grail]

you can break the game using afterlife in like a day

[fervent solstice]

its different, finished but also has some issues

but also fun in its own way

[deft grail]

NaN

[fervent solstice]

other than grinding boss stuff which i still have yet to do

[grave plume]

i "finished" afterlife and still got stuck around 2* damage and hit a wall :(

[fervent solstice]

doesn't take as much time as idleon other than that

endgame IS starts when you have your first cash overflow

[lunar reef]

Afterlife lag made me stop playing

Click that tab once and game bricks

[solid haven]

most idle games that i experienced usually have everything automated when you start to reach mid game, which becomes a completely background tasks -> no fun to be had when interacting with the game

[stiff geyser]

i wished you can click a seige breakers big cannon ball and detonate it

[fervent solstice]

not quite an idle game but shares some similarities is Factorio/Satisfactory

not on mobile tho

if thats your thing

[deft grail]

NGU still goated

Trimps is also cool

[stiff geyser]

sandship was supposed to be mobile factorio but it got buggy and broke alot

[fervent solstice]

they don't call it cracktorio for no reason

[grim torrent]

yeah lava does seem to have an optimisation issue, I can't properly play idleon on my phone anymore for as long as it takes to go through 3 or 4 portals (or 1 click on alchemy)

[fervent solstice]

well hes not a prof coder

[grim torrent]

yes, been playing it a lot recently

[fervent solstice]

and is doing it on stencyl

[grim torrent]

damn

[fervent solstice]

so its to be expected there will be some code issues

optimization wise

and its just him anyways

[grim torrent]

gotta love lava code

[stiff geyser]

So if you're going out to do raise skulls which class is best at it?

[fervent solstice]

wait till you dive till you say that

[fervent solstice]

bubo/dk/es

sb is ok ig

then bm then the rest

[grim torrent]

nah, I'll say "REALLY gotta love lava" code when that happens

[solid haven]

imagine someone bought so many ingame currency that it overflow into negative?

[bright current]

dont let ur dreams be dreams

then he can rly buy a lambo

[fervent solstice]

honestly with the latest im sure he could

ppl pegged his earnings at some point

[bright current]

genuinly, theres a chance. he topped out at like #5 or 6 on highest revenue games for a bit post launch

on steam*

gachas a hell of a drugh

Anyway check this shit out

[fervent solstice]

dopamine is how the brain moves most of the time

[bright current]

i prefer my brain to be stationary tbh

[solid haven]

He will need to manage this better, because right now he is playing with money, and it can backfire harshly (if it was completely f2p without earnings, then such things wouldn't matter as much)

[fervent solstice]

to not move is to die

[mild wadi]

Did you know the dopamine hit occurs just as you're about to buy, not after? So you can go to checkout, press back and get the same dopamine hit

[bright current]

sounds good to me

[fervent solstice]

im sure edging feels better than that

that just sounds unsatisfactory

[grave plume]

is this what findom sounds like?

[fervent solstice]

i hesitate to ask

[bright current]

sort of related. if u hold ur breath (obviously not long enough to pass out) your body begins to release adrenaline cuz it thinks ur suffocating.

[grave plume]

i hate it here

[bright current]

wait untill you see this

[fervent solstice]

there are a lot of different neurotransmitters

[grave plume]

yikes

[bright current]

lava when u buy $44.99 green gems

[unborn yew]

What IS this?

[bright current]

lava funni meme face

(i stole it from a terraria shit post, its a red devil from the hell zone)

[unborn yew]

Holy shit

It's funneh

[grim torrent]

well now I'm gonna think of this whenever I kill one when all my mods are ported and I play it again... I don't know how to think of this

[zinc torrent]

Does anyone know why i am not getting the bonus from my apocalypse chow "super chows". Its at 0, even tho i have multiple 100m kills on my blood berserker

[fervent solstice]

need them on second BB also

bugged

[zinc torrent]

what the fuck.

[solid haven]

this only applies if you have 2 BB's...or always?

[bright current]

clearly you dont have doot

[fervent solstice]

i think just two, but you'd have to ask the guys in #endgame-gen-chat

if you can fit it between teh pitchforks (jk they will answer)

[zinc torrent]

So if i do a subclass swap for my other bb, i should be getting it on my main one?

[fervent solstice]

uhhhhh

idk

[solid haven]

I personally have two, but thinking of switching one over...but kinda depends what future will bring :P (if elite classes will get futher advancement and what it will be like)

[fervent solstice]

that sounds complicated

[zinc torrent]

Sounds like something lava would make

[random lake]

is vman ability activated?

[grand karma]

if u change the bb to dk it fixes itswlf

the second one ofc

[stiff geyser]

which mobs drops the cheesy chest?

[random lake]

wiki

[zinc torrent]

Yes. i can see the "bonus" talent tooltip as well

[lunar reef]

The cheese mob

[stiff geyser]

there's two

[random lake]

then make sure you only have 1 BB, or use your second one

[jagged barn]

Of you have 2 bb it apply only on second
If you have 1 then it apply on him

[zinc torrent]

im just gonna farm more 100m kills and wait for a bug fix. Hopefully it will happen...

[lunar reef]

Wouldn't hedge your bets

[solid haven]

I bet it will happen before you reach 100m on half :P (how many 100m you have so far btw?)

Also, imagine that new guy who would get Doot on his first free roll, but is still in w1, not knowing of it's importance :P

[sick wharf]

Isnt that breaking the game and preventing ppl from opening it?

[scarlet bay]

He'd be in w5 in no time lol

[zinc torrent]

I only got around 2 or 3. But i started a few days ago after farming ladles and every kitchen would take 10+ days. Doot rly boosted my numbers too, glad i got him from a lucky roll.

[hot bison]

What’s the fishing spots

I forgot the command

Could someone pls put it here

[mild wadi]

I'll hold my breath til Lava makes an announcement

[sick wharf]

Announcement for what?

[hot bison]

Abt upd

[untold saffron]

shutting the servers down

[mild wadi]

Anything to break this silence

[sick wharf]

He is actively modding everything so that itself is a statement I think🤷‍♂️

[edgy pendant]

How does Doot work? Someone said you have to have the gods unlocked to get the bonuses but I’m getting omni, purr and flutter bonuses despite only having up to harrie unlocked.

[cobalt oriole]

you do not have to have them unlocked

you get them from w1 if you roll doot, its just that the lab bonus isnt a huge deal until w4

[opaque sun]

if you have few div levels, it seems to be fine

[gilded orchid]

lmfao still no response

this is wild

game is actually getting murdered

[edgy pendant]

But when I try goat’s I don’t know. If i put a character in lab it shows as producing 0 divinity if i check altar on another char

[opaque sun]

Sad thing is that not many reports of pre w5 people actually getting doots reports on discord

[edgy pendant]

Thanks wyr and top 😊

[opaque sun]

That is always the case with goat

[edgy pendant]

Oh

[opaque sun]

Altar does not show progress made from lab (goat) but it still does

[edgy pendant]

So then there’s no point in me lvling up divinity now?

[opaque sun]

div levels always good for minor link bonus

[solid haven]

it doesn't? last time i checked it worked for me

[opaque sun]

minor link scales with div level

[edgy pendant]

Ah I see! Thanks 🙂

[opaque sun]

As I said, It makes progress. Its just that the altar ui doesnt say how much div pts made from lab

[mild wadi]

If lava wasn't hiding away he could have retained some core people of the community.. now a lot are gone gg

[vapid monolith]

f

[zinc torrent]

Going by his decisions, he wants to focus more on milking new players rather than appeasing his current community. Problem is its his currents that are making free content on youtube promoting his shit, leaving positive recommendations on steam so others would discover it. Maybe hes tired after a year of pumping out content and just wanted a summer with coke and bitches, and those dont come for free.

[solid haven]

I personally hope lava will implement some kind of "daily limit" for all the rng that is in the game - even future ones (prime example being companions)
That way, if any issues are discovered when a new update drops, there is a chance to limit the impact before it implodes

[mild wadi]

He won't do that, that will limit his income... he must have made easily $100k+ on day 1, with a limit the issues and anger of the community would have been seen and people generally would have stopped buying after day 2

[violet pulsar]

Does having 2 SB drastically help sailing or is 2 BB just better because of Vman now?

[solid haven]

how would 2 BB be better because of vman?

with 2 SB, one can always be active, while other is always skilling imho. Similar to all skilling classes that affect everyone

[violet pulsar]

hmmm okay i saw that one BB would be making ladles while the other chowed

[solid haven]

that would make sense, but for me personally...i still haven't had the time to work on ladles :P (still have important w5 unlocks to do)

[violet pulsar]

yeah i think getting that head start in sailing (once i finish this W4 push) is going to end up helping me more than boosting cooking

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/e85e6253a4ef3b76185abe62f0d7bab2.png

made progress last speed run, where should I put the extra points?

[solid haven]

I'm guessing you're making a new char? cause SB and BB don't come from same one

[violet pulsar]

a few easy level ups from my 10th

[pulsar cliff]

Is that the set up you use for your void runs? Or for your off runs

[untold saffron]

off runs

[violet pulsar]

just wanted to not impede myself for when i hit w5 cuz i got doot pet but cant use it till i finish 4

[low snow]

Why not in the talent booster?

[untold saffron]

haven't really looked into it tbh

[lunar reef]

Elite Class swaps ignore it Read SB as DK for some reason

Wait no

[pulsar cliff]

Top right skill

[lunar reef]

MISREAD

[solid haven]

not between archer and warrior

[low snow]

You should. Max isnt necessary afaik but some in there are very good

[untold saffron]

what do i level it to?

[pulsar cliff]

I maxed that one out, it's a really solid skill helps a range of abilities

[fiery mason]

Still silence from Lava?

[solid haven]

Well, I personally did not reach w5 when it came out (so i was playing catchup) and I still haven't done any cooking with anyone, i was working on lab and switched to w5 skill after i "finished lab"

[violet pulsar]

3 of each base class and 1 Vman sounds more well rounded to me than 4 warriors

[low snow]

Things like super chow are in there. Very worth it.

[solid haven]

@lunar reef still wouldn't work?
~As SB -> archer, DK -> warrior~

nvm, i just figured what you ment

[untold saffron]

"Green Tube now boosts 'All Skill Exp' instead of just Lab Exp for all players to the left."

how does this work? what skills are they training if they're in the lab

[low snow]

Or also sleeping on the job also granting skilling afk rate

[low snow]

Bear exists

[pulsar cliff]

So when your bubo is in lab, all players to the left of them would gain bonus lab exp. Now, they gain bonus all exp.

Also,bear exists as Techno pointed out lol

[untold saffron]

i thought green tube was players in tubes to the left of

[low snow]

Also the passive ones. Alchemy, smiting, etc

[untold saffron]

fair

[pulsar cliff]

Really it's one of those, I've positioned by Bubo at the far right of lab and completely forgot about it and just enjoy it passively.

[solid haven]

hurts if you only have 1 bubo :P

[untold saffron]

is it ES to farm magma knuckles?

[pulsar cliff]

I just bear him lol.

[pulsar cliff]

Aye

[opaque sun]

whatever dropped by mob, use ES. Rarity of item doesnt matter

[solid haven]

i ment...can't idle fight with him for this skill to work at all times

[pulsar cliff]

Sorry not sure I follow

[solid haven]

green tube talent gives no bonus if no points in it (bubo fighting, not skilling)

[pulsar cliff]

Ah, my bad. Not it doesn't. I just respecced and made the choice to sacrifice some of my dmg to that that skill on both tabs

[sick wharf]

+25 talent level from pet is directly to talents or to book library?

[sterile tiger]

talents

[potent maple]

what's the diiff?

trying to understand

[sick wharf]

Wont have to get new books

[sterile tiger]

it puts 25 levels on all your talents

[solid haven]

it's virtual levels, similar to that "beyond R" one

[potent maple]

i'm not new but explain like i'm new

[sterile tiger]

yes

[potent maple]

just a free +25?

[sterile tiger]

it makes everything 25 levels higher without using talent points

[solid haven]

while talent library is a chance for higher skill level, this one is base value

[sick wharf]

Thats what a newbie would say👀

[sterile tiger]

bro this is w5 chat they aint new lol

[potent maple]

yup, i've only been playing since w2 😄 hahaha

[sterile tiger]

same goes

got that 600 mill dmg

[solid haven]

well..."virtual" levels are w5 thing (and new companion thing)

[sterile tiger]

yessir

[solid haven]

those before w5 don't really have a way to increase past max skill lvl, no?

[sick wharf]

This was a joke

[hardy bloom]

helo, whats going on with idleon rn

[sterile tiger]

yeah ik lol

tf

[sick wharf]

😅

[crisp silo]

Lava cookin

[hardy bloom]

normal day

[brave sphinx]

[solid haven]

if you change map, does it stay?

[sterile tiger]

damn mine aint the same

[hardy bloom]

tried putting it at food slot, too good to be true haha

[solid haven]

i remember that stat thing was with different equip in past

[hardy bloom]

i merged it back with the rest at my storage, it disappeared

[hollow warren]

what??

[sterile tiger]

itd be showing stats from a differnt page probably added in

just a little glitch

[hollow warren]

oh wp

[mild wadi]

the meal is burnt to a crisp by now

[solid haven]

you mean, there's nothing left beside ashes?

[brave sphinx]

no

the ashes have flown away

there is nothing there besides natural gases now

and some Methane

from his fart

😈

• the extra gases

[solid haven]

...from everyone raging?

[brave sphinx]

yes

but

there are still some few dust particles, and those are is

[solid haven]

anyone know how much dmg I need to be able to get to eldrich unlock in rift?

[hardy bloom]

i was backreading, what the hell is actually going on rn. im clueless

[cinder estuary]

I need to do up to eldritch

Slacking on rift cause lazy

[opaque sun]

gacha added to game

[solid haven]

new patch gave rabies

[opaque sun]

lava made big money but has not made any announcement and people angry with steam reviews

[steady token]

I forgot the exact number when I did it, but it should be about 100m

[solid haven]

any particular class needs that high or only the "pusher"?

[sterile tiger]

over a third of the games negative reviews have been since the update

[solid haven]

on a side note...you have time to backread discord?
I only read mentions, otherwise skip to current xD

[steady token]

you need dmg to clear rift when it requires anything but afk kills. idk what is a pusher

[sterile tiger]

is there a way to reset what u spent po boxes on

[mild wadi]

gacha added to game poorly, no pity system. lots of old heads and YTers left Idleon because there's no statement from Lava, he's MIA

[hardy bloom]

i was invested 😅

[solid haven]

well, pusher is usually a unit that you invest everything into, to maximize their damage alone (max talents for example)

[sterile tiger]

thats my es

he is crazy

[crisp silo]

Post box reset thing

[crisp silo]

You can craft it

[sterile tiger]

thx

where do i craft it

[crisp silo]

Or wait you cant craft it, its like a rare drop or quest reward

[solid haven]

cause I personally can't boost damage for every class equally yet :/ (w5 classes)

[crisp silo]

Trap man gives 1

[hardy bloom]

thanks guys btw

[opaque sun]

its faster to just farm more pens than to reset

[crisp silo]

Some classes have hella dmg

[steady token]

100m dmg is about to kill the megamonsters on 4 chars for rift 28

[sterile tiger]

great its in the gem shop

[steady token]

usually is 2es and 2 sb

[opaque sun]

dont waste gem on po box reset unless you missed for slab or soemthing

[crisp silo]

Dont do it

[opaque sun]

just farm more pens and do po order 1

[sterile tiger]

nah i have a bunch of gems

250

is all it costs

[solid haven]

darn, well...it look slike i will have to invest in at least 4 of 'em >.<
Sadly my library / talent points can't handle that yet xD

[crisp silo]

I do up to 101 to get that sweet +9 box

Or up to 100

[opaque sun]

Still just do po 1, really

[sterile tiger]

worth it i got a 30 mil increase in dmg

[sterile tiger]

nah save some for when u unlock the crates

[opaque sun]

Okay too late

[crisp silo]

Do we have a list of casualties from the doot war?

[steady token]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i8icghsTV7U-bZb7NAb-04wPTZlYK-zNSL6RDqp08e4/edit#gid=1494957379 you can check this. it helps me a lot

[opaque sun]

All i can say is you wasted 250

[sterile tiger]

lmao i got nothing to spend em on now

[crisp silo]

Gambling

Cards

[sterile tiger]

already did that got some of the best cards in the game

[crisp silo]

Can always get more (this a joke pls no ban)

[steady token]

you will get enough pens to max every box later

[opaque sun]

whats that star

[solid haven]

huh? you bought the 5* cardifier?

[sterile tiger]

yessir

[crisp silo]

Bro got too many gems

[sterile tiger]

lmao'

[steady token]

👀 wow, that's 3k+ gems

[sterile tiger]

yep

[random lake]

whats that catlecruk card?

[hardy bloom]

zamn

[opaque sun]

The other cards at 2-3 stars

[crisp silo]

Ehhh xp from monsters are kinda mid

[random lake]

oh, tbh the kattlecruk cards were a bit underwhelming

first one is g

others are meh

[crisp silo]

Cook speed however that goes crazy

[sterile tiger]

yeah but it cancel;s out some of the curses

[opaque sun]

Kattle card is basically efaunt, which you never use

[random lake]

true

[opaque sun]

Moon moon way way better

[crisp silo]

Gotta get that xp bubble lvl up newbie

[sterile tiger]

lmao

[solid haven]

i hope lava makes all exp gain cards passive at some point :P (combat ones would be op)

[sterile tiger]

lvl 375 i dont need xp anymore

[crisp silo]

Thats crazy cqnt wait foe next mythic pwt to do all cards passive

[random lake]

doot v2, biggie hours

[weary hinge]

you sure bout that?

[sterile tiger]

no

not at all

[crisp silo]

Always need more lvls

My talents aint gonna lvl themselves

[sterile tiger]

yeah lol but i dont really need to get more xp per hour atm

[weary hinge]

but thats big already yeah, some more stuff and you need to push again

[sterile tiger]

yeah when world six comes out ima go insane

[crisp silo]

I want my atk talents to have crazy multi

[sterile tiger]

ima try do the next rift challenge

[solid haven]

out of curiosity, are there any future plans?
I believe lava released everything he ment to, right?
So w5 boss and after w6?

[crisp silo]

Yea it just keeps goin

Until he gets bored

[weary hinge]

there is a roadmap but lava said he'll update that, not yet changed

[zinc torrent]

What if there is no next update

[solid haven]

i'm pretty sure he will finish what he planned for this game at least (if other things won't burry the game)

[crisp silo]

Then the pump and dump worked

[sterile tiger]

original plan was said to be 8 worlds

[solid haven]

programmers dislike to leave half way you know ;)

i doubt we'll reach w8 though, i see w6 and 7 as guaranteed (due to 3-class skills per world)

[opaque sun]

W8 just going to have all world bosses appear as normal mobs

[solid haven]

unless w8 will be rift 2.0

[opaque sun]

ice cream delivery world

[crisp silo]

Not again

[grim torrent]

dear god, could you imagine ascensions and rebirths in idleon

[crisp silo]

Dear god, if i gotta do alch again

[weary hinge]

rebirth, rift included?

[visual lava]

Plz no

Wait

Ice creams included

[solid haven]

i don't think rift reset would be that bad...sailing on the other hand?

[weary hinge]

reset would be definitely a pain

[visual lava]

What about the endgame achievements of all pets companions?

[sterile tiger]

bruh im going for the lava skull thing in rift and i just kill everything before it respawns so i lost all the skulls

[grim torrent]

Could you imagine companions being reset as well if there was a rebirth system

[visual lava]

I could

At this point I could imagine Lava doing it

[crisp silo]

Pay new prem currency to skip ice creams

[solid haven]

I highly doubt there'll be rebirth though...what exactly would we gain from rebirth?
Games that do implement rebirth have it for specific reason (to be able to advance further into the game)

[visual lava]

For a chance to skip ice creams

[grim torrent]

pay red gems for rebirth tickets

[solid haven]

if anything, rebirth would make sense to "advance to next world" :P

[grim torrent]

yeah thankfully, IS and idleon are too different, IS was built more around the ascension and rebirth system whereas Idleon wasn't

[patent surge]

still no update?

Lovely

[umbral lodge]

player feedback post deleted

[solid haven]

how come players asking for update in random chats?

update on...that topic...is not a w5 thing :P

[umbral lodge]

yeah go ask in w1 chat, its w1 after all

[solid haven]

or endgame

[umbral lodge]

w1 mechanic is far from endgame

[solid haven]

you could argue rift is w4 thing then...but it's content is harder than w5

[umbral lodge]

yep that's why this channel is more like "lategame" and not just w5

it's always been like that with newer worlds channels

[sage ermine]

Should I have all my characters grinding death note for void maestro or doing world 5 skilling

[bronze nova]

I just got to w5 now what should I focus on?

[solid haven]

divinity or lab, take your pick?

but most do divinity until 3rd god i think

[zinc torrent]

There's a divinity God that let's you be INSIDE the lab but still count as doing divinity at the same time.

[solid haven]

he won't unlock that anytime soon without progress in sailing...

[low nymph]

I mean, div and sailing are not exclusive, you can easily do both

[zinc torrent]

I just heard about it I didn't know what level you had to be to unlock them. My bad

[solid haven]

well, you kinda don't gain much from just doing pure divinity and it will take forever with that 1 exp per hour at the beginning

[low nymph]

you kinda wanna get up to 2nd god at least anyway, at which point you're probably at least div lvl 5

[haughty cove]

what status do i need to be able to do until rift 6?

[solid haven]

status...? you mean stats?

[haughty cove]

my bad yah stats

bad english

[weary hinge]

you can pretty much finish it if you can have max dmg of 1m

but for reference see tips and tricks, it shows mob hp per rift stage

[haughty cove]

OH

that was lower then i thought

[solid haven]

btw, those are two different gods ;)

[weary hinge]

it scales hard the higher the stage, and if you can sustain w4 til last map im sure you get to rift6 easy

[zinc torrent]

Ooooh my bad sorry. Didn't know! I thought this was gen chat not w5

My bad ❤️

Thank you for clarifying tho

[haughty cove]

is these enough? itd old picture my stats now is higher a little and my accuracy is 25k

[solid haven]

eh, no harm done anyway. All the chats are discussions anyway

[solid haven]

I'm sure it's more than enough...

[haughty cove]

i wish soo

[drifting swan]

15k Accuracy is overkill for rift 6

So you'll be fine

[haughty cove]

old picture i have 25k + now

but nice

[drifting swan]

Yea you'll be fine

[haughty cove]

kk great

[true obsidian]

these 2 bonus is the same right? i should chose the 59% instead of 26%?

[tacit tulip]

If you can only fit in one, yes

[pine oriole]

You need a mixture of both
Left one is decent, but the more of those you have - the less it gives.
Plus, it's only for one squire. Those that affect both are even better

[tacit tulip]

Oh, right isn't directional

You want both yeah

[true obsidian]

but if the directional only affect 1 char?

then the 59% better?

[tacit tulip]

You only care about 1/2 characters, your DK

[pine oriole]

player XP and bonus XP are different multis

[true obsidian]

i have 2 DK xD

[tacit tulip]

DK level is the most important function of construction, as build speed scales from it

[true obsidian]

so here, i have this cog only direct to 1 DK, i use that 59% to replace?

[pine oriole]

I'll put it this way:
If you have 0 "player xp" cogs and put 20% one to buff your DK - you will get 20% increase in XP
If you have +2k bonus xp and put +50% bonus xp cog - you will get only 2% increase

[fervent solstice]

about to sleep, assuming no updates?

[low snow]

Hope you get sleep as deep as lava.

[true obsidian]

maybe next week

or next game

[pine oriole]

All directional cogs that can be used to affect your chars - should give +player xp.
All other cogs should be +bonus xp

[red slate]

quick question, what's the max boost level for cauldrons?

I'm wondering if I should just max the boosts before trying for more bubbles since I'm around lv100

[pine oriole]

170

[red slate]

thanks, I'll just aim for lv120 everywhere and push a bit then

[pine oriole]

Yeah, 170 is far harder than getting all bubbles with bubo talent

[opaque sun]

if you have to choose to give exp to 2 DK or focus on one, focus on one as its better to have one super high lv DK than 2 so so high DK

[weary hinge]

im pretty sure you can. just dont equip hp prayers

[noble sable]

Equip prayers for a hard gameplay

Idleon is too easy

[silk scarab]

Does this still work 👀

[fair root]

don't pay attention to where my build stuff is, but I think this kind of a setup is pretty nice, if you want to quickly build something you can switch over the main lvl guy to build slot

[noble sable]

No if ik

[jade fjord]

Looks like it got replaced with their runescape bot

[cyan shuttle]

It's not worth, speaking as the guy with highest build rate

[silk scarab]

Guess we know what bigmac is playing now

[glossy dawn]

whats msa

[fair root]

not worth switching over?

[signal osprey]

Yeah bigmac got banned because he took the bot down in protest of this update

[silk scarab]

Pretty much just stick to the build setup in !guide ye?

[cyan shuttle]

It's not worth having 2 separated things with their directionals

[silk scarab]

That's kind of a shit ban reason ngl

[cyan shuttle]

Yeah that is also my setup if you see credits

[silk scarab]

much like many movies I skip credits

[signal osprey]

Yeah as far as I'm aware he wasnt really involved in all the memeing and stuff that other people got banned for

He just replaced his bot with a message saying that it would unavailable until lava addresses the predatory nature of the recent patch because we deserve better

And then without warning he was banned

[fair root]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[silk scarab]

Within his right, doubt he was being paid to host it or even have it created

[cyan shuttle]

From my setup

[signal osprey]

Wasnt payed at all. He did it in his free time just because he wanted to contribute to the community

[silk scarab]

man this was the last time I cogtimized earlier

[signal osprey]

Cogtimizer is pretty bad

[cyan shuttle]

You're above me, if you change the m to b

[silk scarab]

if only

[cyan shuttle]

Pretty strange

[silk scarab]

we ignore that yellow one he has 44% exp

[thin rose]

[silk scarab]

yeah I don't have many player build exp or w.e needed

[fair root]

my thought was that you get max xp on one char if you have them alone in a cog fortress, so if you could have another cog fortress with build speed directional cogs(that also have the basic xp bonus) you could get crazy build speed temporarily if wanted

but does lvls give so much more that it then would be better to have two xp directional fortresses, one for each dk?

[cyan shuttle]

Losing all those base xp% would make 2 "fortresses" worse than 1

[signal osprey]

Plus your level is responsible for most of your build rate anyway so having build rate cogs pointed at characters who arent leveling high because of no exp cogs wont really do much

[fair root]

ye the additional chars probably shouldn't be there

but two forts not worth because they can't roll as high base xp% bonuses as normal cogs?

[cyan shuttle]

It's just extremely rare that a directional gets higher than base and also a good %

Like my best directional (in overall stats) is 144% base 62% directional XP

But my lowest base cog is higher than 150%

[fair root]

I c

well ye I've noticed a similar trend

but the double fortress dream can go on I guess

my highest normal cog base xp is 145%

highest base xp on directional is 72

[red slate]

Heard that lava was still thinking of a bonus to place on these cogs, so holding onto them hoping they become the new must have could work if you have the place

[urban gorge]

Is the drop rate known for tears in the rift?

[round elk]

Ok I´m probably going to get laughted at but has always costed less materials to upgrade bubbles with the bubo?

[urban gorge]

I believe if you use the 'proper' class per color then it's cheaper

warriors on the 1st one etc

[round elk]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

I have been playing for 5 years

and never noticed

[opaque sun]

playing idleon before idleon

[round elk]

well maybe it was an exageration

[fair root]

it's the bubble upg cost reduction bubble of each color getting multiplied by the respective class specific multiplier bubble

[opaque sun]

Unless you lava round since UI only allows minimum of 5 yrs display

[round elk]

yeah it´s literally 4 times cheaper in some cases fuck me

[opaque sun]

Also is similar why construction works way faster when active on warrior

[shrewd nexus]

noob, ive been playing 10 years

[round elk]

I created a time machine to inspire lava to create idleon you can´t compare to that

[signal osprey]

Oh yeah well lava is my dad

[shrewd nexus]

is your pocket money paid in green gems?

[vivid garnet]

Pretty sure Mikha is lavas parent

[red slate]

"here son, take your weekly allowance of 3 bored apes NFTs"

[signal osprey]

Reason he dropped this update is because his child support payments got increased

[vivid garnet]

Didn’t realize you were so young lol

[warm beacon]

Okay good to know thanks a lot

[stable kraken]

just made it to w5 recently, does nobisect effect zow/chow stacking speed or no?

[opaque sun]

NFT pets of random generated RGB colored pets?

[shrewd nexus]

yes

[warm beacon]

Just gonna start selling nft’s of specific colours

I am sure everyone will respect this and will not use those colours anymore

[fathom lagoon]

Chat looking kinda normal today

[shrewd nexus]

also to mention, BB will suckno matter how much you zow him, and vmanskill will make massivly more diffrence to cooking than chow will

[silk scarab]

fucked up my towers a little but we prayin

[shrewd nexus]

careful, drawing attention to the normalness might be bannable, just keep your head down and act like its ok

[stable kraken]

noted noted

[fathom lagoon]

With death note, nobisect & lab you can get 6x kills per kill right?

[stable kraken]

so do i just stick BB in lab/div or something

[fathom lagoon]

Wtf are we all living in fear or something lol sounds like a dictatorship 😂

Minimum 6x*

[steep harness]

best way to slap div lvl up fast?

[fathom lagoon]

Or is it x8 (2x2x2)

[shrewd nexus]

BB still needs to sit in kitchen.. well until you get vman i guess it doesnt matter. so yeah if your cooking isnt doing much you ould div/lab him a bit. vman will exponentially increase your cooking output

[fair root]

but even after you get vman, getting ladles is still good no?

or did I misunderstand you

[shrewd nexus]

im not sure, i know bisect is multiplicative, not sure on how the other two act

[shrewd nexus]

for sure, once you have vman, lock BB back in kitchen. before that whatever progree you make will not be that comparable, but if you can get easy kitchen levels go for it

to be clear vman never needs to kitchen sit, they just have a talent that exponetially buffs cooking

[fair root]

one could cook with bb and save all ladles until gets vman

[shrewd nexus]

oh thats smart

yeah thats probably best

[stable kraken]

i havent chowed anything yet so its probably best for me to wait on that

[shrewd nexus]

i have 300QQQ cooking with vman, before i had lik 1000B

so its like insanly non-comparable

[surreal kernel]

@opaque sun you still here? lol.. thought after the cleanse there werent many left

[opaque sun]

im playing normally with the doot i whaled

[surreal kernel]

you actually whaled it? xD

how much did it cost?

[outer hedge]

Since gen is impossible rn, does anyone know how lava calculated the Blood Marrow skill bonus?

[opaque sun]

i would like to keep the amount I used a secret

[surreal kernel]

w5 is far from what it used to be aswell.. so dont bother

[shrewd nexus]

(a lot)

[surreal kernel]

give me a range.. i'd guess between 50 -1k $

xD

[sour light]

How does blood marrow work

[opaque sun]

i had to recycle some pets and accidentally recycled a slime and im locked not getting the slime

[shrewd nexus]

Red bone marrow contains blood stem cells that can become red blood cells, white blood cells, or platelets. Yellow bone marrow is made mostly of fat and contains stem cells that can become cartilage, fat, or bone cells

[opaque sun]

I think that gives some idea

[nimble yarrow]

Just trade a doot for a slime

[shrewd nexus]

wait how can you be locked from getting a pet

[nimble yarrow]

At certain odds, you can no longer get lower pets

[opaque sun]

Tier 5 makes all commons 0%

[shrewd nexus]

ah

but you must have hit a slime befor that point no?

[fair root]

in short: you want to level all your meals as high as you can

[shrewd nexus]

does deleting it delete the bonus?

[opaque sun]

Deleting removes bonus if that was your last one

[shrewd nexus]

ah man

all you got was that uselss doot, and no slime

[opaque sun]

And its still possible to never hit a certain common before reaching tier 5

[surreal kernel]

sad to hear that you miss out on that excellent slime bonus mate

[sour light]

is it the +% per individual level. e.g. if i have 91 total meal levels does it make it 91x +%

[fair root]

yes (or not)

[opaque sun]

X%^91

[shrewd nexus]

(this is a big number - still not as big as topbirds credit card bill)

[opaque sun]

That is why when you only have like 100 meal levels, marrow suck, but at 2000 levels its bonkers

It goes to like Bs and Ts of +%

[sour light]

i was going to say i kinda rushed vman and i have 91 meal levels with only +1% in total

[fair root]

my math ain't great, does this mean it multiplies by itself the higher it goes?

[opaque sun]

To the power of <total meal levels>

Basically each single meal level acts like a finished diamond chef

[fair root]

but those are then multiplicative between each other and not additive?

[true obsidian]

should i change anything? about God

[opaque sun]

Hence its “^” not “x”

[shrewd nexus]

not exatly, it means that every increase is the same, so no matter how big it is, one more meal will still give you an x% bigger number. lets say a number is increasing by 10% aand starts at 100, the series goes 100 110 121 133 146 ... basically its always good

(in response to origonal question, not topbird)

[fair root]

hmm okay

[opaque sun]

only god to choose is to get doot

[calm knoll]

Yeah get Doot and you don't need to worry

[opaque sun]

Else it looks fine as a non doot god setup

i would use nobi on one of the SB to farm gmush tho

Not sure whats that war doing with nobi

[true obsidian]

noted, thank

[true obsidian]

it's BB, using for Super chow now. But i think not really not matter

i'll change again

[shrewd nexus]

also your ES can cover off a lab slot with their second god if you need to free somone up, should only need 6 to complete lab

[sour light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076691659250737203/1120704171482562591/image.png

how do you add pictures

[true obsidian]

i keep forgot about ES, thank for remind

[fair root]

I like elephant gang (last char is es with omni 2nd link)

[true obsidian]

here you are

why 100 class exp?

[sour light]

low level dudes just grinding them up abit

[opaque sun]

Of all bonuses, that class exp is lowest of priority

[true obsidian]

then use book on it, get some lv, and as you said you low lv now, you don't need that 75 enhance skill, dump all into lv and dmg

cooking speed -> dmg -> class exp

[opaque sun]

Go 100 in marrow to get more meal bonuses will help you more with leveling up honestly

[sage ermine]

Why is it 1%

[sour light]

yeah that is what im trying to figure out'

Is the damage based on all of your class levels together

[true obsidian]

10 Omni sound great..and stupid at the same time. No offend

[fair root]

none taken

I just have it because I like getting some gains from afk time

I play pretty passively anyway

[true obsidian]

i think some hare for atom should be better

at least 2 for ores and logs

[fading cape]

Gotta say, having Molti and respeccing feels insane. Putting 1 point into an ES skill and watching it bounce up to 46 is crazy.

[fathom lagoon]

That’s molti or rift slug?

What is molti bonus again?

[fading cape]

my bad, yes. rift slug

[fathom lagoon]

But yeah same dude I legit put 1 point into everything for the hell of it 😂

[fair root]

ye well, I like optimizing sometimes some things, but this I'm gonna keep like this just because

[zinc torrent]

Don't forget to go add the 3rd production item to smithing on all chars

[fading cape]

getting +45 star talent points for 1 regular talent point was crazy. I don't even think this ES is attached to Arctis. Think he's on harriep on nobisect

[fathom lagoon]

Just unlocked nobi last night, working towards harriep

(I’m dootless don’t make fun of me )

[molten kayak]

welcome to p2w mechanics which habe no business exisiting

[heavy moth]

i think you can still pump that number up getting 63 point for 1

[fading cape]

yeah my arctis current bonus is 15. So at least 60 right now. I also still have everyone trying to get fury ancient and eldritch. So I still have another 50 max to go. Sitting at 195 max at the moment.

[fathom lagoon]

Honestly I’m really starting to get over it all, shits not gonna change. I’m more irritated w the mods and how they think they’re gods gift to mankind banning anyone & everyone, even for putting a reaction emoji lol. Shits sad, basement dwellers

[glad crow]

this is what i get for 1 point, but i know that i can get 2 more pretty easily, with a little grinding

[molten kayak]

the censorship of the whole thing is disgusting

[heavy moth]

goodluck with those artis 😛

[warm beacon]

Yeah and the lack of testing

[molten kayak]

people are getting banned for criticisizing an update that deserves to be criticized the fuck out of it

[heavy moth]

getting same whats the easy 2 point ?

[fathom lagoon]

Yup and mods get pissy & hit the ban hammer. The mods need to be held accountable tbh

[noble mesa]

We have some news from lava?

[fading cape]

it's nuts. It's absolutely nuts.

I have no idea what to tell a level 10 person about progression when they use their first free companion and get lava slug, and put 1 put in sword and ax and get +50 free talent points

[orchid nexus]

is it me or are chem plants kinda rare-ish

[glad crow]

es to level 495 (around there i think is the breakpoint) and leveling my div and big p more to get one more from there

[molten kayak]

I have no idea when some are still defending lava, not as if he pays them

[orchid nexus]

i only had ONE chem plant grow, ever

[fading cape]

oof.

[fathom lagoon]

Qq, my ES is 155 and has +3.94 talent points as his family bonus. When I upgraded that skill that boosts family bonus, I noticed the 3.94 family bonus stayed the same. Am I missing something?

[fading cape]

I'm still waiting on evergreen to unlock

[heavy moth]

oh yea that make sens long grind for div tho ahah as soon as i get few last eldrich ill spam first island to upgrade big p

[orchid nexus]

i either get no mutation or anything other than chemical

[molten kayak]

youve barely had chem unlocked

[orchid nexus]

still

[noble mesa]

Hi u all
Did lava say samthing?

[glad crow]

this is what i currently get

[fading cape]

that skill boosts it by available %. You need to be pretty high level with pretty high talent skill level to see a big improvement. Even then at level 200 I think the skill only gives +2 at level 495

[noble mesa]

Noice

[fathom lagoon]

Aah true ok gotcha, thanks brotha

[fading cape]

which +2 talent levels for all skills is nothing to scoff at. It's just not nearly as good as the siege breaker's bonus.

[heavy moth]

mine whats yourt div level

[fathom lagoon]

Or rift slug

[glad crow]

my big p is really low

[fathom lagoon]

Another random comment, the damn pets following people around throw me off sometimes thinking they’re actual mob monsters lmao

[crude oxide]

I've come to the point I prune everything cactus and below straight-away. It helps but yeah, chem is definitely the least plentiful mutation

[heavy moth]

haha mine at 83 XD damn you got a good 20 level over my es in div tho

[noble mesa]

More then me

[dapper flame]

was there a nerf to doot?

[fathom lagoon]

My gmush sample hit 600 last night, up from 230, progress

[glad crow]

not that i know of atleast

[noble mesa]

Way gmush sample?

[fathom lagoon]

Gmush caps

It’s ass I know but good for my acct lol

[noble mesa]

Hoooo

Ok

[fathom lagoon]

I only have 2/9 elite classes lol, grinded my way to w5 to unlock everything and now just afking in div until I get goat, then I’ll go back and start leveling people and unlock elite classes

Prob not the right way but it works for me lol

[fair root]

there ain't no right way

[brave sphinx]

Wow discord on mobile is weird

[opaque sun]

if you say you dont like it, you get banned. So need to say “I sense absence of relatability” or something

[brave sphinx]

H

g

oh wow

[left harness]

Where do i get the last post office box for gaming?

[molten kayak]

is this what the dppt experience feels like

[low snow]

Sailing

[opaque sun]

FOR GAMING and FOR GAMING GARDEN bothers me

[fair root]

it's what elephant gang has felt like since the beginning of time

[glad crow]

thats what sheepie does

[opaque sun]

sheepie and doot synergy

[glad crow]

if you just have people on omni, then it will look like that with only sheepie

[opaque sun]

Wars easily has 100% sailing proc now

[gilded orchid]

still no response?

[molten kayak]

nope

hes probably fuming that he cant upload to ios because of the TOS atm

[fading cape]

sailing

[opaque sun]

only response is he silently logged into discord and left 30 min later

[heavy moth]

ferrous said something in gen chat but no word from lava

[warped dove]

the weekly ancient artifacts thing in the shop, will it turn artifacts to eldritch too?

[molten kayak]

no

[glad crow]

link please

[warped dove]

bruh

[opaque sun]

Just only to ancient

[warped dove]

how am i meant to get mushroom eldritch

[pine oriole]

After fury

[opaque sun]

Just get it eldritch

[warped dove]

I only get like 0.05% chance in chests tho

[signal osprey]

.05% is pretty high compared to what you get later on

[opaque sun]

Thats a nice % actually

[warped dove]

Bruv

[fading cape]

yeah by the time you're trying to eldritch crystal steak or lantern..... whooo

[warped dove]

what's 0.05% as a fraction

[molten kayak]

1/200

(2000

[glad crow]

im trying that right now.... its painful

[warped dove]

200 or 2000?

[snow hamlet]

Honestly I really hope doot gets a real progression system implementation that proceduraly accomplishes the same effect

[signal osprey]

2000

[warped dove]

damn

[jovial acorn]

how do the bb talents work? i got about 300% kpk and nobisect but im still only getting 2m kills per hour on gmush and on the card, i thoght kpk counted towards my bb kills?

[warped dove]

that hurts my fee fees

[heavy moth]

#idleon-gen-chat message

[snow hamlet]

Because damn, working towards that looks fun

[crimson gorge]

my VM can't access all of my normal portals after a speedrun; anyone know how to fix this?

[warped dove]

i just want high level talents maaaaan

[heavy moth]

sorry for delay gen chat is getting spammm ahah

[glad crow]

ty

[frigid acorn]

kpk is bad

[fading cape]

it is awful. I'm trying to eldritch fury myself. And I really want to focus on crystal steak after this. But I know it's going to be so painful I'm just going to go get others instead

[opaque sun]

its better chance than doot considering number of easy tries you can make with sailing

[dusky warren]

You get a better chance with doot, since more free sailing time.

[glad crow]

im both dootless and eldrith steakless

[jovial acorn]

and the decimator talent? does that even work with afk kills?

[opaque sun]

as long you got bitches

[fading cape]

well I have sheepie for bubbles. Which is... fine... But yeah. I'm considering leaving everyone on elephant and trying for god ranks for ES damage.

[heavy moth]

some other pertinent message said by ferrous a little earlier than that message and later as no ban will be unban

[dry sparrow]

Now that I have auto collect traps rift bonus whats the best setup to auto all my traps?

[glad crow]

bruh you think bitches want someone who is dootless?

[jovial acorn]

doing the super zows will be forever lol

[glad crow]

what should i aim to get my GT too, before trying to get the next es +1 breakpoint

[glad crow]

i have done w1-w4 and currently on w5, wich is insanely slow

[opaque sun]

thats like asking what gmushes you want to

Meaning there isnt really a breakpoint with GT

[fading cape]

what's your main source of multikill? I have max prayer, and same damage tier as you, but my multikill is only 8679. Dementia skull on all of W1

[frigid acorn]

you got the bubble on it ?

[jovial acorn]

i got the bubble pet

[dusky warren]

get doot, it will take less time

[jovial acorn]

u got peanuts?

[glad crow]

?

[jovial acorn]

[pine oriole]

Bubble. Vman talent. Sailing arti?

[fading cape]

no. no peanuts.

[fading cape]

ah. sailing arty might be it.

[glad crow]

am i stupid? what does peanuts do?

[jovial acorn]

i meant the lab nuts

[glad crow]

ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[jovial acorn]

15%mk per tier

idk what theyre called xD

[fading cape]

yeah, my trilo is only standard. not ancient

[glad crow]

get it eldritch 😄

[dry sparrow]

arena 50 is beatable without snelbie and sand giant?

[fading cape]

yeah. another 30x30 would put me where you're at

[royal warren]

No updates I assume?

[dry sparrow]

and burger

[jovial acorn]

ah right i also need to eldritch my trilo

[fading cape]

I did 50 with just high level guys. I used refresher and shield with snowflake as damage

it wasn't until 75 I needed snelbie and gaint

[weary hinge]

whats the level of lary bubble for a sure 100% +2 chance?

[jovial acorn]

601 iirc

[weary hinge]

thanks!

[dry sparrow]

I might try to get higher lvl pets then, Im getting around wave 42 with shit pets

instead of going all the way to snelbie

[fading cape]

yeah I never even used snelbie for arena personally. Snelbie I used for unlocking territories but never in arena

it's a valid tech though. I just never got the hang of it

[jovial acorn]

u reckon i should just candy untill w5?

[opaque sun]

mono in arena makes it safer, but makes the run much much longer

[glad crow]

thats what i did

[frigid acorn]

100m w1 yet ?i assume you could do it if not

[glad crow]

but i used alot, and i mean alot, of candies

[signal osprey]

Not like theres a better use for candy though

[glad crow]

gmush

[elder oracle]

... so I've been checking periodically to see if theres anything new... And all I can say is... Who are you people?

[sick sage]

WTS Ram N C.Custard!

[jovial acorn]

havent yet but i might aswell

[signal osprey]

No point in candying gmush if you dont have at least W1 eclipse done anyway

[glad crow]

i should probally also do this

[glad crow]

true

[jovial acorn]

should prolly do eclipse on different char though

[opaque sun]

honestly there are too many other better DN to use candy than gmush

[glad crow]

es if you dont have doot

[signal osprey]

Yeah candy should go to full W1-W4 super chows and then full W1-W4 eclipses

[opaque sun]

Candy on gmush used to be a thing when there was no better other things to do since no eclipse nor super chow

[signal osprey]

If you finish those then candy gmush I guess

[jovial acorn]

im dootless

[glad crow]

then es because he is the 1$ super discount version of doot

he can get booth nobi and snake

and also the 25% mk talent

[opaque sun]

Made in China Doot

[glad crow]

ye

[signal osprey]

I would do SB. He gets close to ES kills and you'll get a lot of forge progress

[jovial acorn]

dont rly need forge progress anymore

[opaque sun]

anymore? Doubt

[signal osprey]

My bad didnt know you completed 1b iron vial

[jovial acorn]

except for maybe greentacks and vial

😄

[signal osprey]

I dont need forge progress except for these mechanics that require forge progress

[opaque sun]

that except is like the whole reason you need to

[jovial acorn]

mhn

i guess i could

[signal osprey]

It's also good for the anvil mat vials too

Candies give anvil progress and SB has higher anvil speed than ES

[opaque sun]

Also important to stock up on void bars too

[jovial acorn]

whats the bonus for higher forge capacity

there was one i forgot where

[opaque sun]

The recent refinery speed gonna eat lot of void bars via nullo

[frigid acorn]

arcade

[signal osprey]

Currently its just a W5 achievement for forge cap

The arcade bonus got rotated out

[crisp silo]

What forge cap?

[frigid acorn]

didnt even noticed that

[visual lava]

Forge cap = more ore in the furnace at the same time

[jovial acorn]

thanks, ill do the achievement first then ill move on to doing dn on sb

[crisp silo]

So like 10k or smth

[visual lava]

well...

how much can you hold?

[crisp silo]

Idk i maxed it a while back

Seems to be 14.6k

[visual lava]

not sure if this is my cap, but it's close to this

[crisp silo]

Mine seems to be 14.6k

[cedar zenith]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[visual lava]

yeah that's my cap

[crisp silo]

What does the max cap do?

Just more stuff in forge?

[visual lava]

so using an archer class with the 'Smeltin' Everyday' doesn't waste candy/afk time

[crisp silo]

Ah

[visual lava]

you can only empty the forge once per afk

so a higher cap means more bars for archers

[crisp silo]

All g, each slot of inv holds 20k ore at least

Just refill

[opaque sun]

50000 hrs afk claim makes same amount of bars as a 2 min afk

[crisp silo]

I maybbe a lil slow

[visual lava]

super slow

[signal osprey]

At 20k per slot it'll only take roughly 3k afk claims of full copper in all slots to max the vial

Only a tad slow

[glad crow]

also dont listen to this.... everyone knows there is only one true endgame weapon

[visual lava]

also it's not about it being slow

[fading cape]

best bubo weapon

[crisp silo]

Nah its the red 1

[weary hinge]

bubo can use that

[visual lava]

you just gain more bars if your capacity is higher

[glad crow]

this one got better stats tho?

[crisp silo]

Nah best is no stats

Show em how much your bones can do

[glad crow]

tell that too my 18 wis glove

[opaque sun]

wood spear for nostalgia stats

[crisp silo]

Bow on bubo

[signal osprey]

Bubow 🧠

[crisp silo]

I may be cookin

[opaque sun]

Bewbows

[fading cape]

Just sitting here waiting for next level of salt to refine so I can make a warrior and archer troll shoes.....

[visual lava]

you know what would speed it up?

[fading cape]

is it.... doot?

[tranquil forge]

I know Im way ahead of where I should be because I just unlocked anvil teir 4 and am on OJ bay

[jovial acorn]

i cant remember, whats a good wormhole to be at

on gmush

[fading cape]

like talent skill level?

[frigid acorn]

idk , i went to 230~ and timesup

[jovial acorn]

thanks

i think i should get close

got to like 255 lol

[paper merlin]

What buffs do you get from doot pre world 5? Wondering if i should restart ~1.5-2months of progress to help me progress quicker afterwards

[gleaming loom]

none and you're gonne have to restart a million times before getting doot

[crisp silo]

uhhhh you get all gods buff at world 1

[gleaming loom]

you have to unlock them first no?

[crisp silo]

nope

[gleaming loom]

WHAT

[crisp silo]

pretty sure is max

thats why doot is broken

[paper merlin]

Droprate is 1/350 or so, can always hope to get lucky in like 50 accs, they go quite quick tbh

[low snow]

Do you have to do anything else than login and click the dog?

[signal osprey]

Yeah but for everyone that gets doot in 50 new accounts there will be some poor mf who gets it in 600 new accounts. If you really wanna risk that rng then go ahead but that sounds kinda awful

[low snow]

The existence of doot is awful in itself

[hollow warren]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1119655394285998182

[paper merlin]

Lvl 10, can do first few quests then send the 1hr candy on frogs

[hollow warren]

ew lava

[viral vigil]

Man this chat feels so empty without the usual endgamers

[frigid acorn]

i missed the day when everybody asked is no prayer good

[pliant sluice]

I forgot that was a thing

[sterile sundial]

Soy 1/5 prayer bonnus vs Gigachad Sheepie and Doot