#Arknights: Endfield

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dense patrol
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hell nah

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the leak is 1.3

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not 1.2

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HELPPPPPPPPPPPPP

fast root
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Can't trust any leaks

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We've had exactly one(?) that turned out to be reliable so far and it was dropped like, 2 days before the actual announcement

dense patrol
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fck

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i thought we get mifu first

modest knoll
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fangyi was probably set for the same patch as tangtang (hence why they both have their date style main quest in the same patch) but the devs didnt expect Rossi to be so popular at launch they had to capitalize on that hype

just my speculation tho

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bc when you think about it Rossi placement is kinda odd

fast root
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I think her placement would be odd no matter what

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Just because no matter where they put her she'd be in between CN characters anyway

modest knoll
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Tangtang being first phase and Fangyi supposed to be second checks out bc thats the order the player sees them in the story

fast root
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I think they'd probably want to save Fangyi for later where she can be the poster girl for the patch

dense patrol
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its not yet fangyi climax patch

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they are using the basic gacha formula for banner

modest knoll
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@last sluice Endmin when trying to catch terrorist and protecting Perlica: 🥀

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Endmin when protecting and rizzing Rossi: LegendaryTier

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He made that pillar in a split second btw,

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are we sure this mans frail and not just holding back because he has his priorities clueless 🍷

last sluice
stiff harness
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leek about leek

sharp yarrow
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Zhuang Fangyi: Electric. arts unit.

She has 3 forms, normal, sword and jade form. Mechanics centered around electric fields, eletric infliction and consumption and burst.

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Keep an eye out for this

modest knoll
last sluice
fast root
honest lark
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Man china memes

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O shit I'm a reposter

tender fable
sharp yarrow
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Sucks to suck KEKW

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That's sad to see though

fast root
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ouch oof ow

modest knoll
stiff harness
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where do they find such big logs

fast root
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They weren't big to start with

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||They just got bigger when they saw Yvonne||

last sluice
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Just skip the Chinese region at this point 🥀

obsidian bluff
obsidian bluff
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Lots of shipbuilding wood with giant logs in 14-19 century was grown in Switzerland and nearby Germany, just to be used in English and Dutch navy by sending it downstream of the Rhine river.

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So, to answer your question, they probably got those logs upstream the rivers in some mountain forests

stiff harness
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Cool

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Tianba is some kind of using the water powah

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But not advanced enough for metal turbines and use wood instead

modest knoll
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🥀

modest knoll
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😳

modest knoll
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me when guides says get agility, intellect and fracture for rossi essence but the intellect is greyed out and doesnt actually do anything 🥀

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my contrarian ahh said that was poopoo and went for agility, critrate (bc I still have typical hoyogame crit value pepega ungabunga mindset) and fracture instead

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and I accidentally won without even fully understanding how essences work GinHeh

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its still kinda poopoo tho, where the crit damage at? the weapon only gives damage dealt...

75% critrate and 50% critdamage feels so wrong in my pepega ungabunga gacha game brain, where is my 1:2 crit value ratio 🥀

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I cant even find it in any of Rossi's potentials, what is this game 🥀

topaz dawn
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And no, Crit Dmg equipment doesn't exist atm

modest knoll
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for a crit-based unit where are the critdamage 🥀

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yeah I think the current gear is just not that good

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welp time to play waitingfield then

last sluice
modest knoll
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Ironically I am more lucky in Endfield than in genshin, only second to hsr bc pulling 3 sparkles in a row with 40 pulls is still my peak luck

last sluice
modest knoll
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one of those in the pic was my first c6 genshin character btw clueless

last sluice
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Or was it Faruzan

modest knoll
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Faruzan was a random standard pull

fast root
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  1. I'm not simping Yvonne
  2. I simp a hag all the time (Nimi)
modest knoll
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sure you werent I know what kind of man you are clueless

fast root
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Yvonne is in fact the only character I skipped

sharp yarrow
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She'll probably get powercrept fast

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Tangtang is the real winner for ice

fast root
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If powercreep happens too fast I'll riot

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But I more expect balance to just kind of be all over the place since they don't have community beta testers or even good content to test things on

obsidian bluff
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Until 2-3 years pass and they launch a blatant powercreep of a unit

fast root
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Arknignts was innately very resilient to powercreep because of how many niches existed and how many characters you were allowed to bring. Endfield might have it a lot tougher.

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Umbral Monument is good for making different niches shine though

west skiff
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yeah especially with how simple most element ractions are...

fast root
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And the game probably won't be a pure DPS check like the rest of the market

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We just need actual endgame that makes it feel rewarding to make use of those niches

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Because Umbral is still too easy

west skiff
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really wish they were like warframe, like fire being a dot that also reduces armor, cold slowing things inately and providing crit, eletric doing chain lightning and stunning enemies....

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they could rework it....but like doing that so early is really bad

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I just hope they don't do something like..associating more interesting elemental effects to especific character passives

sharp yarrow
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Leak says 1.4 is adding new endgame

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or well a "permanent gameplay mode"

west skiff
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SofiDoIt it's the obrigatory roguelike gamemode for gachas

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bet

obsidian bluff
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I loved roguelike in arknights

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A real shame I was too lazy to play it

fast root
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I sunk so many hours into it

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The big issue was always how many autolosses you would get in your first few runs which made it hard to get into

modest knoll
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yep gear essence grind isnt the rng part

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I got god essence for endmin with just 300 sanity

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but cant upgrade because I dont have enough yellow lamps and I keep failing the upgrade lottery

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🥀

fast root
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Even the upgrade lottery has a pity system through its secondary resources so it's not too bad

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Its not like Hoyo where the grind is infinite

modest knoll
fast root
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I see it as an improvement

modest knoll
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flexxing simp builds are like one thing in other games

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idk its just less content I suppose

fast root
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Its better than everyone WANTING the same statline but being unable to get it

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I can freely jump off the hamster wheel here

old gorge
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what is this event bruh

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why am i powerwashing

modest knoll
obsidian bluff
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I am wheezing

fast root
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Bro

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You can't just say that word

old gorge
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Yug it deals emotional damage i get it

eternal pike
last sluice
obsidian bluff
lunar rock
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pretty shitposty animation

fast root
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50/50 odds that gets nuked because of the title

honest lark
copper flint
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Apparently the game files shows that the liberi girl ult react to elec infl to create corrosion

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So her being zhuang support and mi fu being physical/rossi support is way more likely now

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Hopefully 1.2 livestream is good

onyx anvil
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hey guys

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I think I missed out on the april fools event

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what rewards did I miss out on

modest knoll
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why is there a limit hidden behind a limit

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this game... 🥀

topaz dawn
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Is there item control port on your AIC?

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If you can, just remove it.

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That thing counts

eternal pike
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and i dont wanna pull rossi for Mi Fu

fast root
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Pull the cute daughter

fast root
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I must have forgotten somehow

eternal pike
fast root
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Fair

copper flint
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Don’t worry bout it

obsidian bluff
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More like 1 pull

modest knoll
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why yall pulling meta anyways game is clearable with just Rossi and Endmin

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hardest part is only the marble Nefarith bc no access to gold gears, compared to her Ruan Yi felt like its an elite mob

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that stagger gear is lowkey goated

fast root
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I want the best for my Rossi

modest knoll
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she already happy to be with endmin

fast root
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For fucks sake

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Haven't used X in months and somehow there's even more AI slop than when I left

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Platform is truly just dead to me now FortePensive

west skiff
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Elon can go fuck himself for this auto translate shit

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LathamRage you gotta turn it off for evety language individually

fast root
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There's a reason traffic keeps falling there

fast root
modest knoll
sharp yarrow
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Zhiyan tommorrow

fast root
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Maygi just dropped her Rossi math post on the Endfield sub

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Now I can finally learn Rossi stuff

old gorge
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got a link

fast root
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Can't atm

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But it's there and very recent

mental birch
fast root
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Tldr: my Tangtang is homeless again because Antal is too much of a gigachad

lunar rock
modest knoll
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I just saw some dude lose tangtang 3 times

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to 3 standard characters

sharp yarrow
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Quitting moment

modest knoll
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its not a guaranteed limited character after losing one 50/50? lmao the gacha is cooked

sharp yarrow
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They're changing it

modest knoll
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dang really

sharp yarrow
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prob after 2.0

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which might be after 1.4

modest knoll
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omg horde all your pulls bc this gacha is not it 🥀

sharp yarrow
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I'm lucky with it so w.e

fast root
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No guaranteed after the loss but the worst case is 120 instead of the 160-180 range like HYV

sharp yarrow
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Its not really that bad

fast root
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And better rates

sharp yarrow
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besides the weapon banner

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fuck that shit

fast root
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Yeah, that's miserable

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I've actually managed to pull every limited character so far as f2p

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Lost the 50/50 to Yvonne in my Rossi pulls

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Which completed the collection

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That won't continue because ||we're getting too many hags||

modest knoll
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u just lucky, there is a notan in an alternate universe that didnt win anything and had to go 120 on every banner

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🥀

sharp yarrow
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Leek is a hag

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Zhiyan's great

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Hopefully

honest lark
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I found the leak

clear phoenix
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its almost stream time

lunar rock
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well, her class and element is just as what i expected

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....only 1 character it seems?

fast root
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Baitng Skipyi

clear phoenix
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yeah im not sure if there's only 1 or what

lunar rock
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bird lady seems to be an acquaintance of Chen and...uses flying guns GinHeh

clear phoenix
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chat calling her rosmontis

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cept rosmontis throws walls at people lol

lunar rock
fast root
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Rosmantis is cute though

clear phoenix
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if there is only 1 unit i'd feel more comfortable pulling then but

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seems weird

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thought this was supposed to be a meaty patch since we just had filler

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they did show a bunch of events but still lol

last sluice
fast root
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Looks like she wont be Gilberta-dependent

lunar rock
clear phoenix
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yea

lunar rock
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teams shown are with Arclight, Perlica and Alesh(Why is he there), and Arclight, Perlica, Avywenna

clear phoenix
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dunno if avy will be optimal, but i can get perlica and arclight

fast root
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2 pulls poggies

lunar rock
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really, Gilberta probably gonna be used anyway because lol up to 30% Arts Susceptibility

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increasing per Vuln stack

clear phoenix
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someone in chat said remove factory please

topaz dawn
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New unit is Electric Striker
B-b-but hippo...

lunar rock
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shes a bunni

clear phoenix
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fuck you mean hippo

topaz dawn
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Sorry, I mean HG

fast root
topaz dawn
clear phoenix
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the only hippogryph is pog and they're an extremely rare race

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even in original ak

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they're basically dead

honest lark
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so

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only 1 character?

clear phoenix
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seems like it so far

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unless they surprise us

fast root
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Weird as heck "major update" so far

clear phoenix
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yea

fast root
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I want any indication they've listened to feedback more than this stuff

honest lark
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maybe QoL i guess

clear phoenix
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more government mandated gf content

fast root
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Love that we can just put whatever we want wherever we want

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Totally desecrate sacred spots with awful decorations and no one can stop us

honest lark
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you sound like a sinner

eternal pike
lunar rock
honest lark
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i mean some people might have a thing for

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descration

fast root
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I am not

eternal pike
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lets go

fast root
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And do not

lunar rock
eternal pike
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like we didnty have enought shit with funyn text

fast root
eternal pike
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so only 1 operator

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i can close stream>?

fast root
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Where is my endgame

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Where is my QoL

clear phoenix
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35 days

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on banner

fast root
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Yeah, only one character

clear phoenix
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yeah we're only getting 1

honest lark
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whats a qol whats an end game

lunar rock
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welp

honest lark
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come play stella sora people

last sluice
eternal pike
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cant wait for her bis teams need that wind bish

clear phoenix
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thank god i already got her

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lol

eternal pike
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bnny arclight perli

fast root
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Wind bish?

eternal pike
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gilberta

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i fkn hated her qust

fast root
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Ah

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Nah, Zhuang shouldn't want her I think

clear phoenix
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her quest is awkward but i dont hate gilberta

fast root
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She has like a 10-15s DPS window which seems too long for Gilberta

clear phoenix
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i chalk that up to them forgetting they retconned her story

eternal pike
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her quest operates on cut content from beta

clear phoenix
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which is stupid but oh well

eternal pike
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where she plays big role in getting to Nefi

clear phoenix
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yes, as i said, retcon

eternal pike
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now its just another fkn date

lunar rock
fast root
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Finally getting a non-Gil team again

clear phoenix
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no, you need to pull for the government wife

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max pot

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you need 35 days for this

topaz dawn
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Is that Standard Banner I see?

eternal pike
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We live in Venti skippers nightmare two

topaz dawn
clear phoenix
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it's a joint op

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just pog laev gilb and ardelia

topaz dawn
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50/50

eternal pike
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I closed stream.after fangyi and base showcase

topaz dawn
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Can't wait to get new Ops and not Dupes in Joint Op Banner

eternal pike
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So 1 good supp
And 3 units you probably have

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Lmao

clear phoenix
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i'll wait for a lr one

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cause i want to max mine

lunar rock
clear phoenix
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im at pot 3

lunar rock
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why would they even put Ardelia there

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thats pretty spiteful

fast root
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Its a returner banner, no?

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That's the gimmick

topaz dawn
eternal pike
lunar rock
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hence, at minimum

fast root
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Being thematic as a means of sabotaging the banner

lunar rock
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theres no point in me rolling on that banner when i have all of them at least

eternal pike
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Most ppl rolled Leavi
Got ardelia for free
And picked pog ofg selector if didnt get him

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Do its Gil bait

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Fir meta skippers

fast root
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Its bad bait when the content is toddler level atm

eternal pike
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My gripe withLeek wife is ult reliance

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After gettimg soup

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Im free from Leavi ult waiting room

west skiff
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they are doing so many sanoty giving events...guess people are complaining a lot about the grind, maybe they should just reduce the sanity requirements for stages

eternal pike
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No
Cos sanity stim is limited time

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Meaning its another retention scam

west skiff
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GinHeh i guess

eternal pike
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Dailies is main reason om contemplating leaving

topaz dawn
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Ahh, the illusion of Freebies

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Truly

west skiff
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80 is an odd number considering max sanity is 360

eternal pike
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Im tired of sliding resourses every day when you can automise it
Im tired of managment dijang when you can automise it
And limited stamita pots so you cant hard them between patches

modest knoll
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love how they talked about 5* and 4* characters on the next update:

last sluice
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Rossi should've been one

fast root
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Rossi the 7*

lunar rock
modest knoll
west skiff
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CC?

fast root
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Roguelite mode incoming?

topaz dawn
fast root
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Please

topaz dawn
last sluice
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anyway. Any gameplay for dragon lady to bait me back in?

west skiff
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oh fuck it is CC

clear phoenix
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oh no

fast root
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CC LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

clear phoenix
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it's cc

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we're cooked

fast root
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THE GAME IS SAVED

lunar rock
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CC... ArisaKek

clear phoenix
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coming soon

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lmao

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not this patch

modest knoll
fast root
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@modest knoll 2-character team content incoming

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ROSSI ENDMIN TIME

modest knoll
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hell yeah 😳

topaz dawn
last sluice
modest knoll
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ngl I've been bored, all im doing now is just artificing rossi gears

fast root
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Rossi = desirable
Wulfgard = undesirable

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Girl on the left is cute

lunar rock
last sluice
west skiff
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vampires were...related to the sarkaz..right?

lunar rock
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they are one of the noble clans

clear phoenix
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They are sarkaz

modest knoll
lunar rock
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wonder if the Sanguinarch is still stuck in a void between time or something even in Endfield

west skiff
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yeah i just forgot about vampires in AK universe for a moment but warfarin is in endfield too so yeah..

clear phoenix
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sarkaz had a bunch of different clans like wendigo and nachzerer

eternal pike
lunar rock
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shes not loli...

modest knoll
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waza recognizes anyone above D cup a loli

fast root
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Definitely not loli

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Just cute

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But cute enough for me to pull

clear phoenix
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so next patch we get all 3 right

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cope

last sluice
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Enjel recognizes anyone above 10 and below 500 a hag

clear phoenix
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lol

fast root
honest lark
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whats CC?

topaz dawn
honest lark
topaz dawn
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A granny?

clear phoenix
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contingency contract

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the ak hardmode

lunar rock
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hmm, on one hand slower character releases means you can save up for who you really want, on the other hand its always argh

fast root
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Its amazing

honest lark
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oic

clear phoenix
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im already having flashbacks

west skiff
# honest lark whats CC?

high dificulty gamemode, you choose modifiers for a stage and get rewards the more modificers you use

topaz dawn
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I thought you guys we're talking about Umbral Monument

clear phoenix
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no, umbral is baby mode

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CC is cancer

fast root
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Monument is toddlerslop

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CC is what its about

west skiff
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so you can like make every enemy one shot you and reduce every character's attack by 50% or make more enemies spawn,etc...

modest knoll
# honest lark whats CC?

Masochist mode, think jrpgs but on "normal" difficulty that has option to go "hard" mode. By japanese definitions, of course.

fast root
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The mald is finally set to return

lunar rock
topaz dawn
clear phoenix
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im at 50 k now but i was well over it before

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and i have everyone to this point too

fast root
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I had ~60k for Gilberta banner

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Now I'm down to like 32k

topaz dawn
clear phoenix
topaz dawn
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And not just Boss Speedrun

clear phoenix
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and you'll have your challenge

west skiff
clear phoenix
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it's going to probablyt ire you enough unless it's baby mode

clear phoenix
west skiff
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i wonder if they expected people to progress slower and are now rushing a bit

clear phoenix
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but it is weird spacing

topaz dawn
fast root
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CC is where the mald is

topaz dawn
fast root
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I need the mald

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I can't live like this

clear phoenix
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well the mald is coming

modest knoll
fast root
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Just gotta survive another patch of nothing... maybe more than one

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But the promise has been made

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This game has a chance of being worth it

topaz dawn
honest lark
topaz dawn
honest lark
clear phoenix
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yeah

lunar rock
clear phoenix
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i mostly got lucky with a lot of my pulls and didnt need to use a lot

modest knoll
clear phoenix
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the banners i did bad on were laev and rossi

lunar rock
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it seems they are settling at 35-36 days per version

clear phoenix
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i got yvonne in 1 pull lol

honest lark
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🥀

clear phoenix
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i did too

honest lark
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Actually

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No I didnt

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I just got her at 110pulls

eternal pike
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i got Levi in 1 and Cat in 10

lunar rock
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looking at the horns of blond lady, i guess shes another Lung instead of...uh, a Qilin like Leizi

clear phoenix
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i did really well on every banner but those 2

eternal pike
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helped me cut on exploration

topaz dawn
clear phoenix
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so, a sui, or a new type that isn't the sui

honest lark
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A qilin you say

eternal pike
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im sitting on like 30% world exploration and 70k pull currency

lunar rock
fast root
lunar rock
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so they have a presence

modest knoll
west skiff
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Will HG refresh the FOMO feeling i have in this game by giving me the leek woman for free again this time? SofiDoIt

last sluice
clear phoenix
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if i get leek woman in my free pulls i'd be happy

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i'll also take another lr pot lol

topaz dawn
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I'll pull just to get some 6*

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For Arsenal Tickets

modest knoll
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oh yeah who is next banner anyway

clear phoenix
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after zhuang? I'm guessing the 3 they teased

modest knoll
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I'm forced to use the free 10 pull, I hope I dont get hag FortePensive 🥀

fast root
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Next patch is literally just her

eternal pike
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after someone

fast root
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No other character

clear phoenix
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it's only her

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for this patch

eternal pike
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probably mifu

clear phoenix
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after her it's mifu vampire and feranmut lady

fast root
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1.2 is such a flop

modest knoll
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the 10 pull I got from rossi banner needs to be used on a hag banner 🥀

clear phoenix
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banner wise it's a flop

west skiff
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She barely looks like she in her mid 20s wdym hag ruria

clear phoenix
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content wise i think it's fine

fast root
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Content wise it looks the same as what we already have

modest knoll
clear phoenix
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i mean we'll see what we get

last sluice
lunar rock
fast root
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My hype is like entirely for CC (whenever it happens) and the QoL changes

modest knoll
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I hope CC has towers

clear phoenix
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you are the tower

modest knoll
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bc that feature is so underutilized

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otherwise just delete it

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even events dont have tower in them

clear phoenix
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well if you love towers

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they made a whole other game about it

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maybe go use that

fast root
modest knoll
clear phoenix
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yes

fast root
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35 days

clear phoenix
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35 days

modest knoll
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wtf

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🥀

clear phoenix
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they're doing a joint op banner with laev and gilberta too but

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who cares

modest knoll
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bruh those two just came out

clear phoenix
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yeah but they're out of the pool

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time to restock

modest knoll
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is this amateur hour, in genshin its normal to wait 2 years for a rerun

fast root
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Laev, Gil, Ardelia, and NotPog

modest knoll
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🥀

fast root
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Returner banner

clear phoenix
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2 years is foul

fast root
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It'll have new rules apparently but its bait regardless

clear phoenix
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well there's only 4 possible 6 stars i think

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i dont think you can lose to standard banner pool aside from the 2 actually on it

fast root
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Genshin started doing reruns in like 1.3 tbf

hidden bough
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I still haven't won a 1 in 7

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I hate this game

fast root
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I finally won my first 1/7 the other day by getting Yvonne

modest knoll
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some guy lost tangtang 3 times to standard character, u not alone KEKW

fast root
#

Which was the only character I skipped GinHeh

clear phoenix
#

i stg if i get another ardelia

fast root
#

Although I'll probably be skipping Baitng Skipyi

clear phoenix
#

i dont want pot 5 ardelia i dont like eyja that much man

modest knoll
#

Cant imagine losing tho, my Rossi loves me. Lore accurate gacha gameplay 😳

clear phoenix
#

I wont waste all my pulls on her cause we dont even know wtf the other three they teased do

#

ill probably be wanting one or two of them

hidden bough
#

it feels pointless to pull beyond the guarantee

lunar rock
#

her banner runs for the entire patch, so at least we'd learn who are the next banners

hidden bough
#

240 pulls for a pot 1 if you're unlucky lmao

fast root
clear phoenix
#

i never go for pots on six stars

modest knoll
#

but p1 Rossi is huge for Rossi and Endmin only cuz its sp refund GinHeh

hidden bough
#

I saw a person get pot 2 just barely after 240 bro was in genuine pain

clear phoenix
#

standard banner stuff is exceptions cause they just come anyway

fast root
#

I'm cool with dupes being weak in this game (HSR traumatized me with 100% DPS increase for E2) but the 240 pulls pity is just mean for no reason

hidden bough
#

I like hoyos gacha way better idc

clear phoenix
#

I don't

modest knoll
fast root
#

I'd pull P1 just for the art if it wasn't so much more expensive than P0

clear phoenix
#

They could probably improve this one but i dont need more hoyostuff

hidden bough
#

I doubt they will improve it

fast root
hidden bough
#

they're behaving giga hearthless corpo style wanting to chase after hoyo money

fast root
#

Global passives are a reccuring thing in that game lol

hidden bough
#

bluntly put

clear phoenix
#

are they lol

modest knoll
#

idk, deploying an op that isnt a summoner that summons an entire squad and nukes half the map seems broken 🥀

hidden bough
#

trying to at least

clear phoenix
#

cause i dont really see it as them being heartless

fast root
#

Endfield exporation is highkey just the genshin experience

clear phoenix
hidden bough
#

I mean sure the experience isn't bad for F2P if you think that's not being heartless

clear phoenix
#

she's not nuking the whole map but she's not a summoner and she summons the boys

hidden bough
#

but they're legit asking why we aren't interested in pulling dupes every survey now without adressing the main reason people aren't pulling for dupes

clear phoenix
#

also no point even talking about wisadel with wang on the horizon

#

that mf actually busted

hidden bough
#

I think that's pretty heartless

west skiff
fast root
#

They make them bad and extra expensive and then ask why people don't want them

west skiff
#

people can be very unlucky here but it is entirely their choice to do that, taking advantage of gambling addicts is a problem with both games if thats your issue with the system

hidden bough
#

I like it when there's a hard limit to being unlucky

#

and hoyos is way more consistent

modest knoll
hidden bough
#

endfields fluctuates way too much

fast root
#

It only applies to dupes so I don't actually mind it

hidden bough
#

you can either get

#

pot 5 in 240-480

#

or

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go 600+

fast root
#

Whale problems

#

🐳

clear phoenix
#

there's no f2p who's gonna be pot 5 on any six star unless they have domain expansion infinite sacc or wait for reruns

#

i dont really see the issue here anyway

west skiff
#

wait how is it in genshin? Cause if you lose every 50/50 isn't it 160 x 6 so it's more than your example?

#

or am i missremembering

clear phoenix
#

pretty sure you're right

#

from what i remember

hidden bough
#

it's cuz hoyo doesn't punish you for getting a 50 50 early it actually benefits you

modest knoll
#

genshin is only better in terms of consistency with gacha guarantees and free will to gacha on weapons directly

meanwhile endfield is better in terms of giving pull currency in the effort department unlike genshin which makes you work hard to get it.

hidden bough
#

in endfield if you win 50 50 early you have to spend 120-230 pulls to get guarantee a pot 1

#

in endfield if you lose 50 50 early you have literally no benefit

last sluice
hidden bough
#

in hoyo you're happy with both scenarios

modest knoll
fast root
#

I advocate for
A) reducing it to 120 pulls like with pulling P0, and
B) adding artwork for every potential because that's the main reason to pull them anyway

clear phoenix
#

i'd rather dupes didnt make me want to pull for them like they're a necessity

prisma wadi
#

We really doing gacha comparisons again?

hidden bough
#

I will always complain about it

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I'm a soft spender who likes to max the characters he likes

modest knoll
#

genshin is equal to endfield in gacha, end of story

hidden bough
#

and if I have a chance of getting hard shafted that's a problem for me

prisma wadi
#

Then that is entirely on you

hidden bough
#

no shit

fast root
#

If they want to incentive dupes I hope they pick almost literally any other way than doing it by making them stronger

hidden bough
#

thus I'm complaining

prisma wadi
#

Well. At least you admit.

clear phoenix
#

Your complaint feels a bit goofy

#

I guess

hidden bough
#

I am goofy

clear phoenix
#

I'm a smoker and i hate smoking

prisma wadi
#

Nah. You're a dum dum

modest knoll
fast root
#

They can be good bait without being good

#

Look at Rossi dupe art

prisma wadi
#

And Endfield decided to do it via unlocking hidden artworks

fast root
#

That's what its all about

last sluice
#

I personally think Taiminin Squad has the best gacha clueless

clear phoenix
#

Personally, I think we should be more like FGO

prisma wadi
#

You bum.

clear phoenix
hidden bough
#

like I don't even care about how strong the dupes are I'm just annoyed some random ahh jobber gets to claim he likes a character more than me just because I can't afford to spend 100s of dollars in one month

prisma wadi
prisma wadi
#

Luck. That's all that is

clear phoenix
#

that's fucking stupid lmao

hidden bough
#

I agree

fast root
#

^

hidden bough
#

tell them that tho

#

they started it

clear phoenix
#

then ignore them

#

don't feel like you have to spend just cause you like the character

prisma wadi
#

Their loss

modest knoll
fast root
#

I'm a big advocate that we as a society should mock and stigmatize whales anyway

last sluice
prisma wadi
#

People have many different ways of expressing their love for things.

That guy just happens to do it by shilling

clear phoenix
#

You should just tell that guy raze

#

thank you for keeping the game f2p

#

and move on your way

stiff harness
#

New bait banner guys

#

Like all of them are ak og cast

clear phoenix
#

yea, we watched the thing

modest knoll
stiff harness
hidden bough
#

eh I don't really interact with them because I know I couldn't avoid sounding jealous or like a dick about it, but I just get internally frustarted when I see them flexing but I also get it, if you're throwing away your money on a gacha character you might as well flex it because there's literally no other benefit

last sluice
hidden bough
#

it's also hard to believe them when they say

#

"I'm supporting the devs"

#

then they shove it in your face every time they pull

#

at that point is it really about the devs anymore?

#

or is it about you?

clear phoenix
#

Jokes on them

#

They're a gambling addict now

last sluice
#

Gacha discourse is 90% defending your pull plans

modest knoll
#

what plans, I see Rossi banner I ball

#

all innnnnnnmn

prisma wadi
#

You goober.

hidden bough
#

either way

#

the most I would want from endfield is for them to eventually add the "universal tokens" system to endfield itself

last sluice
#

Fandoms when you say you like something without giving reasons why ForteREEEE

hidden bough
#

it'll take a year or two

#

maybe 3

#

but that would be great

clear phoenix
#

you mean like the royal guard token things

hidden bough
#

or maybe they never add it

#

yea

clear phoenix
#

i wouldnt mind that

hidden bough
#

I used those to get pot 6 nian on top of getting 4 off rates of her

#

and I felt justified

clear phoenix
#

good things come to those who wait

hidden bough
#

Nian is still my favorite

clear phoenix
#

Nian's cool

#

I like ling most but

#

i hate using ling

hidden bough
#

what made me quit AK was

#

going from 1 to 2 then 3 THEN 4 LIMITEDS A YEAR

#

well the 4th was usually a collab

#

but still

#

too much

clear phoenix
#

I came back this year cause of endfield

hidden bough
#

like

clear phoenix
#

i quit for 2 years

#

missed out on wisadel and dungeon meshi

#

im sad

#

lappland alter too

hidden bough
#

they increased the amount of limiteds without increasing pull gain and I felt punished every time I pullled for a non-limited characer

#

felt like ass

stiff harness
#

Guys you should buy Minecraft 🤓 ☝🏻

hidden bough
#

already have it

stiff harness
#

Cool

clear phoenix
#

No thanks, I've seen what happens to minecraft youtubers

stiff harness
hidden bough
#

AK was always notorious for printing so many characters you could never pull em all

topaz dawn
hidden bough
#

feels like they wanna keep us in a similar state of broke for endfield

clear phoenix
#

well i dont feel broke here

hidden bough
#

it's defintely easier to get everything in endfield tho

clear phoenix
#

unless you want pots

hidden bough
#

well depends on how your pulls go and how much you care ig

#

I want my account to stay gilbertaless but I also literally can't have propper teams without her

#

my issue is I want to care about meta, flexing and fun all as a light spender

#

kinda hard

clear phoenix
#

Only thing ill flex is pot 5 lr when I get that

#

Eventually

hidden bough
#

I don't even know what I'll use my standard selectors on

last sluice
#

Where the flex of display cases as a result of bill stocks fortestonks

fast root
#

Devs are probably aware that its Gilbertafield right now so maybe they'll print more characters like Laev and Zhuang that don't deal all their damage in a 5 second burst window

clear phoenix
#

Well one of the upcoming ones might replace her for other teams

#

We dont know what any of them are gonna do really

last sluice
modest knoll
#

im timegated, shes at 120%

last sluice
hidden bough
#

hah my Rossi is about to be 200%

clear phoenix
#

My Rossi is higher than 120

#

Guess that means I love her more than enjel

modest knoll
#

there may be a point in this game where all I do is pop the dailies and ignore the rest like sanity

clear phoenix
modest knoll
#

login (20) > craft gear (40) > gift op (40) = dailies done

#

frick the sanity, nobody cares

hidden bough
#

I want both Zhuang and the new horned cutey, I'm fine with skipping mifu and devil boi

#

might even get p1 rossi or tang during zhuang

last sluice
#

No wonder Rossi doesn't trust him

modest knoll
#

you cant place turrets inside boss domains

last sluice
#

TA-TA doing 99% of damage Slep

modest knoll
old gorge
#

On the topic of gacha, I will say this from experience

#

Hsr every e6s1 I got was on the 1k to 1.2k range

modest knoll
old gorge
#

Endfield gacha I got a completely maxed out laevatain and her weapon in 600 usd

#

If there is a banner that's better for whales it's def endfield

#

Those "free weapon" banners are great

hidden bough
#

idc about money spent tell me the pull difference

#

cuz luck is a factor here more than money

west skiff
#

Huh

modest knoll
#

paid actor

hidden bough
#

1 less dupe and wep being free

#

but it also sounds like his hoyo pulls were on the unluckier side

modest knoll
#

if anything they need to add more, why only p5

#

make it 8

hidden bough
#

the only way people would accept that is if it they made 3 dupes free in addition to them being added

#

and added 3 new ones

#

so it's still only 5 for max

fast root
#

Fuck it

#

Go up to P99

hidden bough
#

like

old gorge
hidden bough
#

my almost triple M6W1 AoD team only cost me two years of saving and buying only monthlies and almost as many BPs, I didn't even get super duper lucky but it sounds like your luck was even worse

old gorge
#

Solve skill issue with credit card 👏

hidden bough
#

either way

#

I don't know how good endfield packs are nor do I care to know I am never hard whaling

#

I know the monthly is worse and the F2P earnings are worse

#

so my light spender experience is looking grim

#

oh yeah and BP is doodoo

#

endfield BP is giga dissapointing

fast root
#

f2p experience is looking a good bit better to me so far but I have absolutely 0 idea how much anything costs or what it gives

hidden bough
#

another thing

#

you maxed laev during the 2x bonus on packs

#

it'll probably cost more next time if you don't get luckier

sharp yarrow
#

Where the fuck

#

Is Zhiyan

#

Don't tell me she's not even a 6 star

clear phoenix
#

Dead

#

No they just haven't shown

sharp yarrow
#

Bruh

#

Not even in the preview

#

Sad

clear phoenix
#

Sui, mifu and vampire

fast root
#

Girl on the left will be mine

clear phoenix
#

I mean if it's true girl on the left is a new sui

hidden bough
clear phoenix
#

I also want

#

Although I dont think it'll be sui exactly but a different monster

hidden bough
#

she's a proxy

#

that's all we know

clear phoenix
#

Yes I know...

sharp yarrow
#

Oh shit

#

Fast

hidden bough
#

I mean we had some logs in the game of characters they were behaving like nian and dusk

#

I'm just stating info

fast root
hidden bough
#

just depends if they're trying to replace them or if they're still around or not

fast root
hidden bough
#

like maybe she's the new dusk

fast root
#

1.3 at the earliest but could be later I think

clear phoenix
#

There is more than 1 kind of feranmut

#

Sui is just one

#

It would be more likely to be a different feranmut

hidden bough
#

sure

#

in the logs we literally had a flamboyant feminine movie director and a silent mysterious painter who made it seem like things she painted were coming to life

clear phoenix
#

I mean it can also just be a nod to them for people who've played ak

#

Anyway let's just wait and see.

#

Another 40 days

hidden bough
#

I would rather they confirm it's the new girls

#

cuz

#

if they're hinting Nian is around

#

there's a chance she becomes pullable

#

and that chance means I'll go crazy thinking about saving all my pulls or not

clear phoenix
#

You are gonna hype yourself into disappointment

hidden bough
#

I know

#

that's the issue

clear phoenix
#

So let's not think about it lol

hidden bough
#

having leaks be this tight doesn't help either

#

been a long time since I played a gacha where fomo would be this bad for me

#

hard to get pull priorities in check

#

even Notan would probably skip this girl if he knew suzuran and susaro recons were real and soon

fast root
#

Sussy's not my type but point taken

#

Always gotta have a big emergency fund for things like that

hidden bough
#

I

#

really

#

don't like recons

#

laev is not surtr

#

ardelia is not eyja

#

giblerta is not angelina

#

they're different enough from the original that I don't feel anything for them

eternal pike
#

thats why Tang it the goat
fuck reselling same chars

fast root
#

I'm cool with it in theory, particularly since Laev actually elaborated on it

hidden bough
#

sure

fast root
#

But Ardelia and Gilberta ain't it

hidden bough
#

but I loved Surtr I don't love Laev

#

I actually regret rerolling laev

#

a bit

#

Giblerta insanely fucking annoys me

fast root
#

Its like HYV and their expy characters. They just better not go too crazy with it.

hidden bough
#

and Ardelia is much less cute than Eyja

fast root
#

There's not many reconveners left that could bait me now

#

Angelina, Eyja, and Suzuran are the big 3 off the top of my head

eternal pike
#

i liked Leavi
her quest actually has interesting themes and both explores how reconviners live with it and fear and weight of expectaitions of Endmin

#

unlike fkn dates

#

we get with some

fast root
#

Unless some other especially cute girl had rock cancer and I just forget+

hidden bough
#

I'm

#

not talking about the story

#

I'm saying I don't feel attracted to her personality as much as I did Surtrs

eternal pike
#

for me its easier with Endfield
cos i am aware that Bloons better TD

#

and didnt play AK og

eternal pike
hidden bough
#

I know

eternal pike
#

like that vampire doctor

hidden bough
#

but I doubt they're letting us pull her

clear phoenix
#

The only ones we know of are m3 and warf

hidden bough
#

they'll just use her as nostalgia/emotion bait story NPC

clear phoenix
#

I doubt theres many others, everyone else is ded

#

Well

#

Kirsten Wright maybe lmfao

#

Well find her space coffin

hidden bough
#

m3 I wanna pull

#

the m3 haters I don't get

fast root
#

m3 cute

sharp yarrow
#

lmfao

fast root
#

Extremely aggressive bait

sharp yarrow
#

In case you missed Gilberta

#

Pay up

lunar rock
fast root
#

Every time I see that channel its something weird like this GinHeh

dense patrol
#

i aint reading all that

old gorge
#

Rokkttor always uploading click bait with those titles

lunar rock
#

It's mainly reposts of meme animations from bilibili

#

Some are pretty funny

#

Like how this one stars Enjel

clear phoenix
#

I prefer the ones from original ak that he uploads, idk the specific guy who actually does the ones I like though

fast root
lunar rock
#

Interesting thought

eternal pike
#

whos that

sharp yarrow
#

Man the Zhiyan dream is fucking dead

clear phoenix
#

Faust

#

I think

#

But he wasn't a vampire

sharp yarrow
#

She's probably a 5 star at this point

#

Not even in the teaser

#

For what I assume is the next two patches

fast root
lunar rock
#

Faust is a snek, not Sarkaz

clear phoenix
#

I dont think vampire guy has anything to do with Faust lol but the appearances are similar

#

Yea

sharp yarrow
#

My new guess is the left girl is a nature DPS and Zhiyan is a 5 star support bundled with her

clear phoenix
#

I didn't remember him being a snake honestly

west skiff
clear phoenix
#

His name is faust

#

Goober

lunar rock
#

They never mention his race explicitly but also how being a Sarkaz in Ursus to begin with is lol

#

Very unlikely

honest lark
#

its guaranteed? or just another banner

hidden bough
#

no

sharp yarrow
#

Its prob one of the four shown 6 stars with a selectable guarantee

hidden bough
#

win the 25 loser

lunar rock
#

1/4 chance of Gilberta since the limiteds are only those 4

hidden bough
#

keep pulling even after you lose multiple 25s loser

#

fucking hate this kind of banner

#

these stupid outdated gacha banner philosophies

fast root
#

Just designed to bait people with gambling addictions

#

Luckily smart people like us choose our addictions more carefully

lunar rock
fast root
#

It's really just you don't have to set up power banks every time you redo your base to get it rolling again

#

Big fan

clear phoenix
#

Yeah it's not a bad thing

#

Dunno why they word it like that

topaz dawn
lunar rock
#

It's enough to not need thermal banks and batteries on hand

last sluice
#

Omw to blackout a refugee camp for unlimited power

stiff harness
#

unlimited powah that come from thin air

old gorge
#

Leek dragon potential artwork, idk if it's even worth spoiling since none of us will see the rest of it KEKW

clear phoenix
#

I mean they show it in the stream

#

Why bother spoiling

fast root
#

It was on the stream anyway so we've all seen it, along with most of the new story

old gorge
#

I didn't watch stream

clear phoenix
#

Well no need to spoil it

fast root
#

Only thing worth remembering about it was CC is coming

#

But not in 1.2

clear phoenix
#

Lol

fast root
clear phoenix
#

Cc is going to give me trauma

#

That last one in ak a month ago or whatever I hated so much

old gorge
#

The art is fineeeeeeee

lunar rock
#

Probably following similar format to current CCs I guess

clear phoenix
#

It is fine

old gorge
#

I wonder if they will begin the trend of broken dupes

clear phoenix
#

I meant no need to put a spoiler on it

fast root
#

Introduce Avengers into this game

old gorge
#

Starting with her

fast root
#

Just to trigger some PTSD

clear phoenix
#

I hope not

#

You just want to whale and flex

#

Agsin

old gorge
#

Nah

lunar rock
#

Also CCs never grant currency at least

old gorge
#

Tax season took a chunk of my savings Slep

clear phoenix
#

Then dont hope for cancer upon us

fast root
#

I want dupes to stay bad

old gorge
#

U no it will happen eventually

lunar rock
#

But it does give resources and shiny medals

old gorge
#

It is the law of gacha

clear phoenix
#

I also want dupes to be mid

sharp yarrow
#

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE NEW ARKNIGHTS PLAYERS TO HELL.

#

lol

clear phoenix
#

I mean yea

#

It is

fast root
#

I'm down for them making them easier to get and giving more artwork (3 isn't enough ForteNod ) but it can be a slippery slope

old gorge
#

What hell just watch a kyostiv guide Slep

clear phoenix
#

Unless they babify it

fast root
#

Guide is just gonna be like "dodge here"

old gorge
#

Scratch that, u still gotta execute the plan KEKHands

clear phoenix
#

There's only one thing I want cc to have