#Arknights: Endfield

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supple sundial
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wuwa has also been going more casual lately since 3.0

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I think WuWa's biggest problem

supple sundial
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which i dont like

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Is that my old laptop couldn't play it

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wuwas biggest problem

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So I never tried it GinHeh

supple sundial
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is that the enemy difficulty in endgame

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is set wrong

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like

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most wuwa chars are sig merchants

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so if you got no good wep the last tower is gonna feel rougher

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but for anybody with a decent team it will still be paper

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and unless ur beginner surely you invested at least one team

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lul p4 lifeng too strong

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I like that old gameplay

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i actually feel better kicking endmin

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and putting in ake

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for more sp

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so i can spam even more lifeng skills

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oh yeah this is another stupid shit about endfield combat

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lack of quickswap

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cuz it's not an actual swap

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it's a literal character replacement

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bc they are on the field

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so you interrupt your own skills if u wanna anim cancel

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meaning you cant onfield anybody with long skill anims

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like lifeng for example

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4 character make sense but gameplay not that deep for 4 other

stray brook
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I feel like the combat is just fine in this game but Im not at the endgame so I can't speak for the true depth

nimble parrot
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The endgame is either 3 dps physical

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Or hypercarry buff stacking some flavor of dps

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It’s really not that interesting

stray brook
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For a 1.0 situation though I still feel like this game has a good foundation compared to some of the other launches

nimble parrot
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Rotations aren’t as set in stone, but the goals are about the same

stray brook
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Even zzz was rigid as fuck on launch with only 2 teams you could play really
dps stunner support or piper anomaly

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Where the gameplan was just to onfield your stunner so you could get to your damage window

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Pretty rigid

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Hopefully hypergryph can expand on stuff over time

supple sundial
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GinHeh sarkaz team

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they blocked themselves off of quickswap

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And like onfield character can do qte themself

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Weird

supple sundial
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so the combat wont really go any deeper than onfield whoever has fastest FS and either doesnt use skill or has fast skill anim

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and the other 3 are permanent qte bots

mental birch
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In context you can't really evaluate the combat/characters/teams by themselves if you recognise that they changed the system they're working under but had to adapt char kits they already made under the old system

supple sundial
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they maybe shoulda thought of that

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before releasing this undercooked like this

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now i actually kinda want ember WheezeTao

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endmin is just not needed

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truly

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but the healing is nice

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for agony stuff

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cuz ai gets damaged for no reason

stray brook
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Ardelia cant do the healing job as well?

supple sundial
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ardelia doesnt add anything to phys

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and her healing is single target

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ember at least has high stagger

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when you onfield her

stray brook
supple sundial
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which doesnt stack with lifeng silly

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so shes useless

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literally

stray brook
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Okay yeah if it doesnt stack

mental birch
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6* parry char when

supple sundial
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also

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where tf are ember's wings

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it has been bugging ever since i found out shes supposed to be a sankta

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i didnt even clock it

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6* John lee when

supple sundial
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sigh

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an hour of farming

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and still couldnt get lifeng essence

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the fkin 2ndary is always wrong

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i got every combination except phys dmg

stray brook
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Gotta applaud zzz for making it semi easy to get strong build for most chars kind of easily

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Instead of the rng hellscape that is wuwa echoes

mental birch
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Question of ember wings brings up someone mentioning adnachiel doesn't show his until his skin either

stray brook
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Or 7th layer of hell that is planars for hsr

mental birch
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Some people think they don't have it if they don't got gun or that they can just boop them out of sight since they don't have physical presence

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They'll eventually explain it clueless

stray brook
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Any of you guys rolling yvonnes fat ass?

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Or is she just so off meta that you wont bother

supple sundial
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cause he doesnt have a firearm

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so his lack of wings was never an issue

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sankta get their wings when they bond with their patron firearm

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since adna has a weird halo hes forbidden from getting a license so he never bonded

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supple sundial
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thus no wings

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him having wings in the skin but still only using a crossbow is whats weird

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supple sundial
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the other possibility is that the artist just forgot cuz at the time the wing-gun parallel was not coined yet

fast root
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Nothing against her but I have to draw the line against someone

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I roll gilberta before her story

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Good one

stray brook
supple sundial
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Laev is like the most boring story

supple sundial
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cuz no content

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im not rolling yvonne cuz shes kinda shit to play

supple sundial
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apparently

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Gilberta>=yvonne>>laev story

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For me

old gorge
stray brook
fast root
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I just noticed the npc little girl in gilberta quest

old gorge
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its a retrend of surtr's story

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The girl with camera

stray brook
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Compared to other gacha games good char stories, not really

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Her voive so good

supple sundial
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What is her name again GinHeh

supple sundial
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really? WheezeTao

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The girl in event

supple sundial
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sometimes word for word

old gorge
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i ate that slop up fatrisa

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blushing lae too cute

supple sundial
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i dont care for story one bit so it didnt phase me

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as long as skip button exists i will slam it

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Do Yvonne have some cool animation

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Like gilberta have that double sprint

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Gliding

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Cool af

supple sundial
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you stand in place and pewpewpew

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thats all

stray brook
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oh in terms of idle?

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idk

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didnt care for her

stray brook
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Even kneels like one when shooting

supple sundial
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i would love to make ange into a dps

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at some point

stray brook
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Just needed ass jiggle when the gun's going off

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but basic attacks not doin shit is just killing my vibe so much

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her basics are so cool

old gorge
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hope they add some thigh jiggles fatrisa

supple sundial
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im sure they do

supple sundial
rugged lantern
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@livid root you fuck

supple sundial
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so just check her

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We must stay focus for rossi ForteCOPIUM

rugged lantern
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Why did you pick recyclimg statiom

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Delivery

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rugged lantern
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Good thing i have zipline setup

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For it

old gorge
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I hope no one rember my 87k->30k delivery

rugged lantern
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If i didnt ill set yours shit to 0%

fast root
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(and Tangtang)

old gorge
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i forgot to check yvonne out during her character quest FortePensive

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wait do we have those

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Her story still out tho?

old gorge
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character trials?

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Like 15 days

supple sundial
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Story

old gorge
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well i did it already so how am i going to check

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Nice design,gameplay is zzz

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I like gilberta more on exploration just because her gliding cool

old gorge
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nah yt and and doing it urself are too different

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supple sundial
old gorge
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ChenShrug im not that invested in yvonne

fast root
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What are we checking

old gorge
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thigh jiggles i think

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Thigh jiggles xd

supple sundial
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bro if u wanna goon

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there are a million other games there

fast root
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Don't think I noticed anything too crazy

supple sundial
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or you can just look at fluorite

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i heard shes goonable

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Browndust and snowbreak look cool

old gorge
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its not arknights

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not the same

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supple sundial
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idk henny

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your problem

fast root
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Is this Arknights?

supple sundial
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okay no gas stage this time

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thank fuck

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i can phys this

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without having to use arde

fast root
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I hear physical is a cheat code for stage 2

old gorge
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snowbreak the girls are too 1 dimension after the gooner reboot

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bd2 i dont like the gameplay

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Stage 2 is cheeseable

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I actually cheese every stage except the 3rd

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Like 20+ tries still not win

old gorge
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stage 2 is the two rush at you 3x monsters?

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That energy plateau sickfuck movesick is bs asfuck

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The worms

supple sundial
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oh you cant oneshot the stage 1 boss?

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it just gets a shield

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no matter what

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thats fkin lame

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I did oneshot it with laev

supple sundial
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i wasted my whole burst

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I think

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It kinda easy

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well it went down to like 25%

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then shielded up

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on agony

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oh it's time based

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not hp based

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okay

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well

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I didn't know GinHeh

supple sundial
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i was too slow then

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but i need the breach turn

old gorge
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they were all pretty straightforward, agony stage 2 got hectic quick when the second mob spawned

supple sundial
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or my dmg is poo

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gonna laev this then

old gorge
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was the only stage i had to reset several times because i refused to dodge ArisaKek

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Bruh

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I think literally skip everything by cheesing with laev double ult

stray brook
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The fucking charging assholes stage was annoying

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They just dont stop

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The crossbow dude

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Moveset have no red circle,can intterupt,create areas that can't move on

supple sundial
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old gorge
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u can CC them?

supple sundial
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yeah

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with phys cc

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slam

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and lift

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both work

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ange works too

stray brook
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My surtr got boxed into a corner and died so I had to finish the stage with wulf antal and arde

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💀

old gorge
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i just reset that pos stage

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like 4 times

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it was a really simple attack pattern but theres like no room in between because either they both charged at you

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Wait lift works?

old gorge
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or worst case scenario, the other one is finished charging, but the other one is going in

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I also not last much with arde

supple sundial
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arde healing is ass

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xd

old gorge
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ardelia the best, her ult saved me twice in that stage

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Then im got to boss phase 3 with gilberta

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Idk

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Gilberta somehow move better ig

old gorge
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her healing is fine

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why u think its ass?

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picking up the sheeps too much?

supple sundial
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cause it's only for whoever picks it up henny

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and my issue is never me dying

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it's stupid ai dying

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cuz they just wont dodge

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xd

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and eat all the dmg

old gorge
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i never noticed it to be a problem kleekicant

supple sundial
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you prolly leveled them higher

old gorge
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for me its always laevatain face tanking everything

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i left them all on 60

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cuz thats only my 2nd team

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Idk

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I just died

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To boss

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With gilberta i last to phase 3

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Still died

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FortePensive maybe skill issue from me

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definitely

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this game is way too easy

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if u cant dodge

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thts on you

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But but no red circle

supple sundial
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we hvae like the most generous perfect dodge in this game i have ever seen

old gorge
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dodge has a very generous window

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i wish they would kill the FS-only sp gen shit

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i hat ethis so much

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That crossbow dude just straight up hit you

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Twice

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Without warning

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also ai getting staggered out of their skills

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Then aim the bow right at your face

old gorge
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oh u doing week 1 stage 3

supple sundial
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like bitch plssss

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That one

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oaky no i cant 1 cycle this with phys

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im gonna skip breach

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and just go for crush

old gorge
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i prioritize the xbow guy when phase 3 was up

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fuck those arrows coming from across the room

supple sundial
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oh my god this stage 1 idiot

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stupid ass ai

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getting interrupted

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okay guess i have to wait for the moment there too

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I know its frustratingly easy but I do like the general idea of Umbral as a game mode

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None of DPS check shenanigans

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You can literally just tell people "git gud" if they're failing and mean it.

supple sundial
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alr yea this was easy this way

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skip breach

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just go for crush right away

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kek

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boss is not fat enough to need breach

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oh stage 2 was fun

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real easy with phys

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but fun

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lift does work

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i wish we started with ults here

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by the time they are up

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the enemy is dead

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so im playing with half the kit

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whats even the point

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kek

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okay for stage 3 at least lifeng ult came up

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thats something

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anyway this was very very easy

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stage 1 was trickier cause aoe interrupts and ai got stuck but like 2 retries were enough

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every cc coming out of the woodwork with INSANE YVONNE DMG videos

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even my goat lin-0

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omg

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nooo

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sold his soul for sponsored vid

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her autos and skill are kinda cute tho

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it's really on her ult that i hate

mental birch
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I like how sciel clickbaited with old CBT yvonne dmg last week KEKW

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That shit did look bonkers though

fast root
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Is she an ult-based character with backloaded damage? I have watched exactly 20 seconds of Yvonne gameplay.

supple sundial
hidden bough
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man

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it was all gimmick fights

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lame

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could speedrun fight 3 at least

fast root
hidden bough
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but I did not enjoy the be patient and careful of 1 and 2 attacks portion

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just let me kill them

fast root
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The gave us Venti and then Eula huh?

supple sundial
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eat soldification stacks for ult energy (like laev with heat)

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then 7sec ult duration

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durin which she does fuck all for dmg

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and at the end of the 7s she does a big nuke

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thats her dmg

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but that nuke needs to crit

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and it wont crit cuz we dont have enuff crit in the game

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so you gamba

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enjoy

old gorge
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fatrisa resetting floors for big crit numba

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i remember

supple sundial
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also shes a gun user

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but her most important thigns are not treated as ranged dmg

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like her nuke

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her skill

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her FS

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they all miss if the enemy flinches

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and i'll say this once again

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but wulfgard dps outdpses her

hidden bough
stiff harness
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wao

old gorge
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wao not pulling

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did u rolled an chara

fast root
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I think he just pulled Laev and is now saving for Tangtang and Rossi

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After deciding against Yvonne

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i think i almost did that but sitting on 41k+

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😔

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80k 20 roll is something

hidden bough
fast root
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Same

honest lark
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Wtf new character

leaden cloud
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ts was posted like 17 weeks ago

livid root
dense patrol
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leather add tuna but not me?

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hes done

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that fucking salaryman

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i need more of this shiets

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rugged lantern
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fucker never game me his uid

dense patrol
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i gave it here

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wdym

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i rsend tonight

livid root
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Souine doesn't even log in every day

rugged lantern
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ah hell nah

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he aint gonna pick my mushroom

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or send me clues

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wtf

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i already 55

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hello

livid root
rugged lantern
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could be worse

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i know personally 5 people who laev pot 5

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and still 55

fast root
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Slacking

dense patrol
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im not dumb to spend energy

fast root
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Fake player

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67

dense patrol
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i probably need that

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stamina saver thingy again

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gonna save tons of energy forward and all tickets

copper flint
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i could use my stamina to make a 2nd team since my phys team is done

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but idk if i wanna invest in a p1 avywenna

stiff harness
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Thinking about building last rite

rugged lantern
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Im maxxing my gilberta

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Almost 4 max etch

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Ive full artificed

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Gilb and laev

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Also

livid root
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And tomorrow you'll have pot 5 yvonne

rugged lantern
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Idk where you get the idea from

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Surely i dont have pot 4 yvonne

copper flint
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u fraud

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u pot 5 already

rugged lantern
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Why everyone keep saying thag

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I have p0 trust

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Just because i have a p5 ember man

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Smh

lunar rock
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Its funny this fucko cut the hard part

modest knoll
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AKE does not have tiles the same way AK does

lunar rock
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Alongside 3 mins left on clock

rugged lantern
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No i meanr

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The video start on the easier part

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Not the part wheres there two aggeloi

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Chasing you

lunar rock
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I am pretty sure this wasn't initially a solo run I mean... 😄

dense patrol
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how hard is the new endgame?

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can i brain off laev?

lunar rock
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They all require a brain

rugged lantern
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Mybad

rugged lantern
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If you have gilberta

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Set a Lift

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physical team?

copper flint
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first try for all of them its all mostly 1-2 bosses for all 3 fights

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no need for aoe so phys just dominates

rugged lantern
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Boss 1-2 are liftable

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Boss 3 is eepy

eternal pike
livid root
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Damn, how can I make that kind of bank

rugged lantern
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1/2 of artificing

livid root
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I got 3 arsenal ticket hits in my credit store today

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I am now the richest man alive

tender fable
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better than my 25 oroberyl

rugged lantern
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Better than my 75

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Oroberyl

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1k+ friendship per day

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Get coals

last sluice
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Nerf Tuna

livid root
last sluice
livid root
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Hopefully 1980

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Or however much a single pull costs

last sluice
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I mean how much you got stashed

livid root
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Not enough

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My account is going to be dead tomorrow ForteNod

eternal pike
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i should be able to finish Leavi before combat event ends

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got 3 liner yest

livid root
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I maxed her BS and Ult

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She's finished

eternal pike
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minus gear artificing

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i maxed all her skills

livid root
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Why

eternal pike
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she deserves it?

livid root
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You ain't care about her basic damage pre ult

eternal pike
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w/e

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i had resourses

livid root
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I'm saving my resources for eos

eternal pike
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now i need to max etch

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and then ig artificing?

livid root
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Artificing is pretty easy

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If you have bills

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And xiranite comps

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I want to say about 5k xira comps should be enough?

last sluice
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@livid root How do we put Australian delivery prices on Wuling jobs?

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livid root
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You tell me

stiff harness
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Time skip for yvonne

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Gogo

rugged lantern
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New creeper propaganda

eternal pike
queen crow
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nearly cut my thumb off. cant do umbral because of pain using controller

mental birch
nimble parrot
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He read a review that a cutter usually causes people to slice their thumb if they don’t put the safeties on

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He then didn’t use the safeties & cut his thumb

hidden bough
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why is almost every message you write a shitpost lately in response to something said here Grim, I'm not complaining just curious because I don't remember you talking about the game itself much

nimble parrot
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Because the game itself doesn’t have much to talk about so I get my news here mostly

hidden bough
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fair enough

nimble parrot
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I’m more or less just waiting to see if the game gets better on the story front

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If it wasn’t the ak ip would’ve dropped weeks ago

hidden bough
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gacha games do be slop

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like junk food

eternal pike
hidden bough
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some get tired of them some don't

eternal pike
nimble parrot
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Ak has amazing lore & they had 6 years to figure out how to write a story

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The fact this is what they came up with is insulting

eternal pike
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I can have meta or story discussion
But memes are universal

rugged lantern
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I think its meant to be Insulting and vague

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The main story hasnt even ended yet

hidden bough
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how many hoyo games did you play Grim?

rugged lantern
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Fuck the priestess war hasnt even started

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Were currently too busy with a Bear

eternal pike
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Like look
I now know that @honest lark likes puns
And i can post this clueless

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rugged lantern
eternal pike
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A bear?

rugged lantern
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Yes a bear

nimble parrot
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Tried genshin around its release, multiple periods on & off

eternal pike
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You can say final arc barely started?

nimble parrot
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Dropped entirely in the water region

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Played hsr a bit, quit before the main other region dropped because the writing was atrocious

hidden bough
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I fully agree with HSR

rugged lantern
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Like shit dawg this storyline with endfield does not make sense because if we know the direction its going

nimble parrot
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And the two button gameplay lost its charm

eternal pike
hidden bough
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you know it's weird

rugged lantern
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Its too much leaked info for actual AK

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The problem is its a continuation

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When the og still ongoing

nimble parrot
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Maybe they shouldn’t have made a direct sequel to a game that is still in service then kermeme

rugged lantern
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YES

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Thats the problem

hidden bough
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you can clearly tell each hoyo game is worked on by drastically different teams in terms of philosophy for their writing

nimble parrot
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They’re the ones who decided to do that

hidden bough
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and overall game design too

eternal pike
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Didnt play AK
Idk and idc
Its gonna be HI3 fans annoying ass point emoji over honkai characters in hsr all over again

hidden bough
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hi3 story was pretty good, for genshin people say it has it's ups and downs but it's an insane drag to get to the ups it's just super slow, HSR is a mess without a real direction that keeps shitposting and hoping their playerbase eats it

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ZZZ had a super amazing and fresh start

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and then they got scared they wont earn money and made the story slop in season 2

rugged lantern
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Zzz me when

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I market to too young of an audience

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So i have to make it goldfish enough for a 12 year old

hidden bough
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those 2 sentences did not make any sense

nimble parrot
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The gacha model is not built for good storytelling

rugged lantern
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Because it doesnt

hidden bough
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...?

nimble parrot
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Again only gave it a chance because of ip

rugged lantern
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Nah thats fake

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Love and deepspace

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Soft corn

hidden bough
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nah

rugged lantern
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Selling steamy story in form of gacha

hidden bough
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ZZZ story imo is still no the worst thing in the world it has it's charms it's just the direction was extremely rocky

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but in terms of good gacha stories there's only a few

rugged lantern
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Story is fine im just saying
The fanbase is miserable enough

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That they need to tone down

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That shit

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From game mode to story

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Why did they remove the tvs

hidden bough
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imo it's limbus>fgo>r1999>ak>haven burns red

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in terms of best stories

rugged lantern
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Oh yeah haven burns red

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Is a genuine anime turn to gacha

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At this point

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Idk about fgo

hidden bough
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still technically a gacha

rugged lantern
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Fgo is like the one piece that doesnt interest me

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And i genuinely read op from start

nimble parrot
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Limbus?

rugged lantern
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Limbus is a cheap spinoff for me

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Story end with LoR

hidden bough
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there is defintely nothing cheap about it

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your opinions really are trash sometimes leather

rugged lantern
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Its get better each canto yeah

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Like idk Ive played lob corp and LoR

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From close beta

hidden bough
#

you are comparing

rugged lantern
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Their story is over for me

hidden bough
#

a live service on going story

rugged lantern
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Yes

hidden bough
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to a finished one and done product

rugged lantern
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Im waiting

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For the entire cantos

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To be over

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To give a proper

hidden bough
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kjh literally said he's competing with FGO

rugged lantern
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Comparrison

hidden bough
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it's not ending anytime soon bro

rugged lantern
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With that staff number

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Is he even on 100 yet?

hidden bough
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no clue but things have been looking better he admitted that he had very little influence on canto 9

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and it still turned out great

rugged lantern
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Meh so story just get better each canto in term of production and writing

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Canto 1 get expanded with roach emperor atleast

hidden bough
#

I mean yeah games are supposed to get better over time

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that's kinda the point

rugged lantern
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Yes

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I aint gonna put my respect until its fully coherenr

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Were still in inferno

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This is ONE PIECE SEASON 1

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Territory

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1140+ Episode

hidden bough
# nimble parrot Limbus?

it's hard to believe you haven't heard people yap of it when you will find the most unhinged minorities praising limbus like a cult

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but yes it's has really really good writing for gacha standards

rugged lantern
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For gacha standard yes

hidden bough
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only downside is the gameplay isn't for everyone

rugged lantern
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For my standard no

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Thats my issue

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Im waiting for it to get somewhere

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Seasonal player

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Moment

hidden bough
#

meanwhile ZZZ is mid with ups and downs but people primarily play it for the gameplay

rugged lantern
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Canr believe they started hinting A second smoke war

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Like its a ww2

hidden bough
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leather lets not have lore talk in the endfield channel I was just gonna compare gachas and recommend Limbus and ZZZ so Grim has more channels to shitpost in if he wants to

rugged lantern
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Oh yeah go play Limbus now

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New ID is fun

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Lim banner soon also i guesd GinHeh

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Zzz i would not advice jumping into a hoyo game this late

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Its not fomo just the draught itself

hidden bough
#

both games are getting anniversaries soon

rugged lantern
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Like idk Limbus is a different game

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Than endfield

fast root
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I don't trust ZZZ anymore

rugged lantern
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So its fine

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Zzz however

fast root
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I can't say anything about Limbus though. I truly know nothing.

rugged lantern
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A lot of combat similarities

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Do you want to tell someone to play 2 similar game

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Like its a slave job

hidden bough
fast root
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I have HSR to blame

hidden bough
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how does that even make sense

rugged lantern
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Different team dawg

fast root
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Feels like it's slowly started to follow HSR's lead

rugged lantern
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Only thing you can rant is Monthly pass

hidden bough
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DPS Soukaku still doing well too

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in fact the only 2 units that are suffering and seeing almost 0 use are A anby and koleda

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ben mains are still clearing with DPS ben

fast root
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It's not just about clearing, although I'm not a fan of the exponential HP inflation either

hidden bough
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anton enjoyers still doing anton things

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I mean it is

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you are worried about the way they do shills and creep

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which is like

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no shit they're gonna go down the route that earns more money

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but if you still clear with your shitty ellen team who cares?

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also

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you already don't pull for every unit in the game

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and then you also refuse to commit to vertical for AoD

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like

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the fuck

fast root
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If M2W1 isn't vertical investment idk what is

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I'm just not going for M6

hidden bough
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for almost a 2 year wait

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yeah you could have

fast root
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At no point was M6 ever the plan

hidden bough
#

my point being tho is

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you had the funds to maintain your account to a level where any content would be a non issue

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but you chose the shittier experience to save for AoD

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on purpose

dense patrol
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damn same HSR takes

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im leaving

hidden bough
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and it's not like it didn't work

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it did

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so now I don't see why you're dooming

fast root
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And now AoD is here so there's not much left to look forward to

dense patrol
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i wish yall a good night an

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@leeatt

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@rugged lantern

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u fraud

rugged lantern
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Where the uid

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You fucj

hidden bough
fast root
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I think powercreep and shilling on that level is just inherently unfun and the story has been incredibly mid for almost a year now. You can say it's just me being negative but you can say that about literally anyone's opinion on anything ChenShrug

hidden bough
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no everyone agrees the story is mid

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but you could have done your pulls differently and had a normal ZZZ experience

fast root
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These things would upset me regardless

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I know myself well enough to be confident of that

hidden bough
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you can't choose to gimp your account then complain your experience is shit

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that's my job

fast root
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My experience isn't what I'm complaining about

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Like obviously I won't have any problems clearing content with AoD

hidden bough
#

indirectly it is because you're dooming the game is only gonna get worse

hidden bough
#

I meant overall

fast root
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I know what I signed up for on that front

hidden bough
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also the difference between what happend in HSR and ZZZ is very drastic and hard to compare

fast root
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I just dislike the accelerated inflation/powercreep/aggressive shilling on principle

hidden bough
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it's a turn based game versus a hack and slash

hidden bough
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probably like 97%

fast root
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At the end of the day they're both just about getting your numbers high enough. Just that one rewards you for execution and one rewards you for spreadsheet TC

fast root
hidden bough
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if you want a gameplay oriented gacha that doesn't do that shit at any point you'd have no gameplay it'd be like GFL 2

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horny slop

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the moment players care about gameplay the devs will monetize it

fast root
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It's obviously not HSR in terms of these things but very few games are

hidden bough
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endfield is still figuring out ways to monetize gameplay without upseting people

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and they're already upsetting some bozos like that reddit post

fast root
#

Endfield so far hasn't fucked up on any of these fronts

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It's fucked up on weird and different fronts

hidden bough
#

of course I'm just saying

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your expectations are a bit whack and doomy rn because you convinced yourself things need to be a certain way for them to be fine

nimble parrot
fast root
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I just see it being a lot more lot HSR than it used to be is all.

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And if I'm going to criticize HSR for those things then I should criticize ZZZ for them as well

hidden bough
#

criticizing something that hasn't affected anyone yet in fear of it affecting something is still in fact dooming

nimble parrot
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Is zenless is an hp inflating time attack endgame

fast root
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Yes

hidden bough
#

yes

nimble parrot
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Where the choice is pulling new units or taking longer & longer on older ones as they slowly shift from relevance

hidden bough
#

more or less

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but they do character buffs to combat the inflation and shill buffs but those are more iffy if you have options for them or not

fast root
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Last I checked, next patch they increase a boss' HP by 35%, and another by 42%

hidden bough
#

they've been very good with character buffs at least so far

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started doing them way sooner than HSR

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also

fast root
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Making sure old characters are only slightly completely irrelevant compared to their upgrades instead of being very completely irrelevant

hidden bough
#

the bareminimum needed for the rewards that give pulls in ZZZ are very lenient

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even full clearing end game is mostly just for flex

fast root
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HSR buffs actually bring the characters back up to the meta (before inevitably killing them again)

hidden bough
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so even if there is a bad patch where your characters which you pulled aren't modern or buffed or have any shill buffs which is a very unlikely scenario and you only have yourself to blame

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you can do the bare minimum and chill

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skip the patch in terms of tryharding for end game

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that's literally the worst case scenario

nimble parrot
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Think I’m better off not playing a hoyo game

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Their formula is not fun

hidden bough
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it can be unfun

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it really depends on how you approach it

nimble parrot
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And really me playing today or 3 years from now is basically the same experience if they do shill powercreep

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The units I roll then & there would be the best

hidden bough
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if you like vertical investment like me and don't want to pull many characters you will struggle but being good at the game has helped me get my clears with the most scuffed teams

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but I only have myself to blame for that

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a normal person has a better experience option wise than me

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that's a given

nimble parrot
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And I need a story to grab me

fast root
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The issue isn't the experience, it's the principle of the game not even pretending to actually care about balance. VH getting special privilege, 2nd half characters almost always being mid, directly creeping every single Stunner instead of just trying to balance the old ones, etc.

nimble parrot
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And if it’s already not seeming good then there is no point

fast root
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They've made it clear what the patterns are now on that front

hidden bough
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Aria is arguably broken

hidden bough
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they'll buff the old stunners they just powercreeped them first to make money

queen crow
#

what are we mad about today

hidden bough
#

nothing just gacha comparisons

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slop vs slop

hidden bough
#

it's good on every front except the gameplay being an extreme acquired taste

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Limbus has 0 relevant powercreep that makes the game any less enjoyable, 0 fomo except the arknights collab stuff which is due to collabs in nature having to be limited time

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on top of really good writing

queen crow
#

eh

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all gacha games eventually fail to me because of the same thing

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lack of content

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i just find it funny that people choose to spend so much money to not have to do anything that much faster YEP

hidden bough
#

the reason they spend money is very very subjective

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it's a whole nother topic

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it defintely isn't to speedrun the game tho

queen crow
#

hmm. i guess i dont understand it then. 1st character sure. 5 more times? thonk

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i just see it as a power thing

hidden bough
#

there's both

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personal and social cope reasons people spend on a gacha which can dwell from personal problems and unsatisfied desires from real life that expand in many different ways based on how exactly they sell the product aka the characters to their audience

#

it's really a broad topic that requires a lot of assumptions and correlation between different communities and the way they handle themselves

#

but most of it boils down to escapism, feeling good about yourself and dopamine

#

gachas do in fact pray on a majority of vulnerable people in some shape or form

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hence the term predatory

#

there is also those who just spend normally on it because they like the game

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and wanna support it

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but it's hard to gauge both how genuine that is and how many of them are because they're a lot less vocal

rugged lantern
#

Theres the very weird case like me

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I script reroll into a godlike reroll account just so i can spend

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Way less

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Also this snow is a bummer

hidden bough
#

I assure you cheapskates are more common than you think

rugged lantern
#

Yes

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Very common

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I went full set 1 finish

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With 750 pack

#

People went 1000+

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To hit the whale coung

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And from there i just t2 spam into 80$ to hit the whale count

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Up to set 3

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Heck i had a giga whale Tier uma global account back then

queen crow
#

set 1 for me

image.png
rugged lantern
#

Like imma be honest

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Im confused at people on frieren banner

queen crow
#

im just anti-gambling unless its free

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like getting a scratcher for christmas type free

rugged lantern
#

I only gamble if the bonus

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Is good

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Set 1 wasnt even my money

queen crow
#

credit card scamming pepegaSwipe

rugged lantern
#

No u fuck

#

Somene actually gave me those packs

queen crow
#

why

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"someone"

rugged lantern
#

Because i help them out with close beta data

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And he profit from it

#

Also i scripted him an account

#

And felt bad and gave me some yen

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Same tier as mine

queen crow
#

like for sv. i dont mind paying for cosmetics. i dont really understand this whole gacha thing

ill use probably the most consumer friendly mtx game i can think of: poe
they have gacha boxes but then when the new gacha boxes come out you can just buy the cosmetics from the last box individually

#

like wait a little longer and you can guarantee what you want to get

rugged lantern
#

Gacha box Like lootbox are haram

#

I do not support that

queen crow
#

like imagine how many more people would pay

rugged lantern
#

Like theres should be a safety net

queen crow
#

like only the 1% of the 1% spend tons of money to gacha

rugged lantern
#

The fuck you mean rates

queen crow
#

but way more would likely just buy leaders straight up

rugged lantern
#

We had this question with cygame

#

Before

hidden bough
# nimble parrot Their formula is not fun

the reason I think ZZZ is fun is mostly the combat feel and overall setting the game is in, I vibed with almost everything they had to offer in that regard even the in game soundtracks

rugged lantern
#

Or korean mmo

#

Or chinese auction in. A mmo

last badge
#

Play GBF where your social standing is based on progress and grid power

rugged lantern
#

Nah

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Do your clan battle

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You fucj

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Grind Our rice

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Not yours

#

But back to Gambling

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Fuck me SV is very f2p for me

#

I literally pull 6 frieren ticket f2p

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From just playing

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I didnt save anythinf

hidden bough
#

experiences will differ but that aside

rugged lantern
#

I am the extremely

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Sweatlord tier

hidden bough
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reason I quit SV 2 was not how generous or not it was

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I quit cuz the card design is ass

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not creative and not fun

rugged lantern
#

Well yeah its ass The game is a rebrand

#

Im playing because i treat it as a tcg

#

Theres people here

eternal pike
#

Holy backread
Im.at work
Ill.hipe you all behaved and noone called anyone names or posyed hirni

rugged lantern
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Playing them

#

Theres irl event

#

That get you wgp entry

hidden bough
#

that's about it

rugged lantern
#

I think sv nowdays

#

Is just for JP

eternal pike
#

Its jokr
Ill back read in a bit

rugged lantern
#

If yall want to play you can but miss the main experience

eternal pike
rugged lantern
#

Which very suck

#

Imma be real

#

I feel like its more f2p

#

But thats a me thing

#

Because top player get too much free stuff

hidden bough
#

I also got upset at leather for calling Limbus cheap when it's only the gameplay that got watered down

queen crow
eternal pike
#

But also both gwent and runeterra suffered for bein f2p friendly
And shit like mtga trives

rugged lantern
#

But yeah i did call it that

queen crow
#

pulling cosmetic leaders has nothing to do with f2p lol

rugged lantern
#

Oh dw

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Tbe f2p account

#

Kinda hit 1m vial

#

T2 fiend

#

F2p is like the magic term of going infinite for me

#

Learn draft

eternal pike
#

Depends
I am a person who likes to play different decjs and colors

queen crow
#

your manner of thinking leads me to believe youre from SEA

rugged lantern
#

Yes

#

Im.singaporean

queen crow
#

even worse

rugged lantern
#

🤷‍♂️

queen crow
#

having close ties to singaporeans for... 20 years

#

they think in a way that doesnt really apply to many other places

rugged lantern
#

Well yeah i took git gud too literally

#

Nobody will try to master t2

#

I just do it and shrug it off

queen crow
#

i think it has to do with country sheltering so their worries cap out at "i have to stand in a line for 30 minutes to get some chick-fil-a"

rugged lantern
#

Most eventful day in sg

#

Ofc

eternal pike
#

Fruend tries to get me into local game
That was around for 2 decades
But niw has digital version
Berserk called
Unrelated to The Berserk

queen crow
#

i forgot how we got here...

rugged lantern
#

Idk

#

Lootboxes?

queen crow
#

we need that discord thing that summarizes recent convos on this server

last badge
#

should've played for Zeta

eternal pike
#

Are you ok oats?

last badge
#

yup

rugged lantern
#

I shouldve played more t2

#

This set

#

The 5 reroll on everything turns me off

#

Too much variable

#

Anything can win if scam enough

#

Then again 24 ticket on a f2p account

#

Is abnormal as fucj

livid root
#

Play less sv for your sanity

rugged lantern
#

After i secured the 3 beyond spot

#

I guess

eternal pike
rugged lantern
#

I play 4 but 2 are automated

#

And 1 took 20 min

#

Sv is the only real time sink that isnt singleplayer

#

Kinda dont want to burnout on singleplayer

fast root
#

As much as I complain about the current state if the game, at no point has the combat stopped being good

honest lark
#

Do I yolo Yvonne weapon

#

Or not

#

@queen crow u rolling for Yvonne wep 1 10x?

fast root
#

Gotta state your resources and upcoming banner plans

rugged lantern
#

He gonna whale

#

Dw

honest lark
rugged lantern
#

So you have 100 pull confirmed?

#

With the dossier

honest lark
#

Nop

#

No dossier here

fast root
#

But what's the arsenal ticket count

honest lark
#

2000

rugged lantern
#

Damn you fucking get soft pity gilberta

#

Fucjing whel

honest lark
rugged lantern
#

But yeah then its 90

honest lark
#

Maybe not

#

Just save for tang tang I guess

#

5 tickets free rolls

#

Pls give me last copy of wulf

rugged lantern
#

If you want to go for yvonne i would just go bp weapon tbh unless you mind the 11% dps

honest lark
#

Oh

rugged lantern
#

Like try 3 multi if you want her

fast root
rugged lantern
#

Tjen decide

honest lark
#

I usually take cues from road

rugged lantern
#

Sound like youre not spending on SV

#

This set

fast root
#

I live in constant fear of the weapon banner

honest lark
#

Wtf do u mean

#

We don't even know what's this set

rugged lantern
honest lark
copper flint
#

84% diff to p0 artzy

leaden cloud
#

Just found the time to do the new monument