#Arknights: Endfield
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you wallahi no matter what
So you might as well make some of the duds useful
My first run gave me 2 int/atk/medicant
And I've been mad ever since
im gonna make a spending spreadsheet
way too many fkin currencies
but i think i'll make the yellow thingies as the basis
cuz arsenal ticket cannot be directly translated into red thingies cuz it's random
depending on what u pulled
My factory was completely unpowered when I logged in today
Dunno why, when I logged off my production rates were stable
Should have been producing enough batteries
Credit shop was the same rng in ak, wasn't it?
Yeah its pretty much the same
It has been many years for me
the daily refresh fulfills my gamba needs
Big why
Blud so deep into gamba he gets relief from seeing 1 xp book slightly cheaper
I'm waiting for last day of lae banner to drop a 10pull just for the free 10p at 30

You got pot1 surtr in 40 pulls?
Yeah
I have p1 lae and pog in 15 pulls


You spent more than me wtf
I have spent zero cause I didn't expect to like the game
whale wars
almost done with endmin gear artificing 
please dont pull some bs with the rates game
expect it
I mean I don't think you should care too much about this
I plan on max artificing my carry set but expect that to be replaced down the line

Devaluing a bottle by half by putting water in it
I know there are some weirdos who'll think "I spent x stam/resource to get this set and you're gonna make me replace it" complainers down the line
i need to hit these #'s once i get pog
yeah i honestly do expect lvl 90 gear
they should make it pink gear
i like the damage numbers in this game
but they need to be a flashier font
I'm so used to ignoring dmg numbers in every game it doesn't matter what they use
oroberyl not being usable to direct convert into arsenal is ass
makes calcing harder
aaa
and i thought pgr had too many currencies
this is next level
they also set it up that the conversion between 1pull and origeometry is not a round number
times like these i miss hoyo's simplicity
the 1:1 crystal to primo makes things so much easier
i think this is normal for ark knights
but u cant buy arsenal tickets?

thats funny as fuck
"oh shit i rolled laev in 10 pull, i cant afford her weapon halp"
Just use bp weapon atp man
you can but only from origeometry not from oroberyl
No point fucking your account rolling for weap
so the ingame free currency doesnt let you buy arsenal
Free ori is sparse
very sparse
yes
you can mostly kiss goodbye to converting to arsenal tickets if ur a f2p
so you get what your roll luck got you
It's also significantly worse to use ori for arsenal over HH
which is just....i wanna say at least it's a discount but if you dont have the origeometry to buy more arsenal tickets it's not even a discount
Because for some reason it had to be more expensive
arsenal tickets are more abundant if u play daily tho i feel
they are in credit store

i think i got them elsewhere too but idk
ya 200
so then on average a 10pull gets you 380 arsenal tickets so thats a 5000 beryl = 380 arsenal
delivery guaranteed this week
how does everyone feel about that

im still googling for
sources on how to get more arsenal
its j ust credit store

idk i felt like i saw it elsewhere too
broke eh gimme ur jobs imma do ur deliveries for you
Idk

ye
There are in fact plenty of problems that can be dealt with plenty of fire
... Except fliers
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Original text
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yea this is the most bullshit of all 
3ob/arsenal if you convert and ~13.16ob/arsenal if you get it via pulling on hh
insane diff 
yea i cant use og as the basis of the pack value calculations
cuz that would need a whole different sheet that assumes you only get arsenal from converting
and that would never be worth it
Guess i would hold it and see who i will got alter gilberta banner
I would just straightup not value arsenal at all if buying packs
or if I do put a value on it I would only consider it valued at avg 10pull on hh arsenal output at that conversion rate
not min rate but avg which someone else would have to do the math on
the usual arsenal packs have 2k tickets in them
so in that logic thats 2k*13.19 = 26320 OB
Idk what is that
hrm there sure still are reroll streams on YT
for Endfield
some people are just addicted to the process
no because I said avg not min rate
you're basing off 380 arsenal per 10 hh which is min rate
so the price they are selling me a 10pull on wep banner is the equivalent of buying 52 character pulls of which i would get these pulls just by pulling chars
i mean
min rate is the average
imo
in these
and going into true average would make this even harder to properly calc
that's why I said someone else has to do the math
fk i hate this system

you'll go insane
fk i'll throw it into chatgpt
soft pity calc is hard to quantify into 6* value if you want to fully encompass it
if you didn't spend on lae banner you should have enough for gilberta
and then i would have to calc irl money to OG too and thats not equal either cause the og packs are not valued the same
it's basically impossible to really make a chart for this
cause you cant actually tell how much $ 1 OG costs
Guys what is the gryphline app
you should be able to by just pegging everything to the monthly pass value of og
it's just hg's version of hoyoverse ig
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i was looking at this at first
they seem to be using the largest OG pack as the basis
or not
idk
no ye they do
wait this pack doesnt exist in my game
huh
it's the 320 OG pack
but my ingame shop shows the 194 OG as the largest
what the fuck
is this some CN-only pack
Its skport
funny cause the web topup does have it but no x2 bonus on it
idk to me monthly pass is the true value of any pull currency
and packs are more an immediate emergency measure
but the math should be the same
this all started cause i wanted to buy the 2k arsenal ticket pack to finish up pog wep banner
in terms of showing which has best value
but then i started looking at the rest
and now my head hurts
and i wanna crawl back inside my mother where math didnt exist yet
this all just goes to shit when you realize this website has completely different amount of OG offered in each topup pack compared to what we got 
Who are you all picking for the selector tomorrow?
POGCHAMP
I'm holding
no fuckign question for me
need to see who spooks me in 5 banners or so
idc about LR or ember
and i have the rest
ember is at best eye candy for some ppl
Ember might be good later who knows
in reality shes the worst character in the game
shes worse than fkin catcher man
they should have made her commit to either heat or phys
but now she does heat dmg but her kit wants her to be in phys
while phys has catcher already who does her job but better 
Gonna pick Last Rite for ice team. Also I don't wanna play Laev for future area expansions 
her only use case would be if some stage just demanded healing. like something actively draining your hp unless you heal
What does li feng do
I'm going lifeng otherwise if I had to pick now

poggies
the fuck do I pick
vuln, phys sus, cc, decent personal dmg. hes core for phys
i have to pull thermite cutter
Bro snatched in being 6* for just a guard
but maybe i wait a day for the shop to refresh
So u need lifeng and pog
yes
Like does pog support better or lifeng
pog chen lifeng endmin/panda is the phys team

cant be compared, they dont do the same thing
they work together
I have Lifeng and P4 chen but I don't wanna play phys 
Hard
lifeng makes vuln stacks for pog to eat for breach
and then lifeng makes vuln stacks again on the breached enemy for endmin to crush
and thats how the phys team works
So holding it
only thing phys lacks rn is an ardelia-type character who provides enough buffs/debuffs along with defensive utility
That's ember 
but if you can dodge this is not a problem
ember does not provide any buffs or debuffs
she just heals
thats all
thats why catcher is better on her slot cause his shields are still better than no sustain but he contributes to cheap vuln stacking
yeah
Or fastest clear
no
Ye I thought so
how would she be good for FAST clear
Base defense
when i just said all she does is heal
on paper she looks like a better catcher at a glance
they both have a defensive combo and a skill that applies vuln
I haven't seen a reason for tanks to exist in this game yet
U wanna mash as fast as hard as possible
This izint blood borne
but then you read the numbers
and you realize that altho they have the same skill
ember does heat dmg so it's no dmg in a phys team cuz she has zero buff sources
and phys team only does phys debuffs
and then you also realize that ember skill costs 100 sp while catcher skill costs only 60
Debuff:
Defender get more def
100% vulnerability to other classes
-70% dmg of other classes

defenders are useless for the same reason stuff like zhongli is garbage in genshin
This
It's ark knights. This might be a real thing
I don't mind tbh
you sacrifice damage for defensive utility that you dont need cause you can just dodge
wdym unit restrictions
I mean otherwise people just gonna laev everything
Only take 200% dmg from sarkaz,other classes take 50% dmg or even 40%

Ye this
as in the game actively bans you from using 6*?
no
theres no such thing
No, just some stages

wtf

imagine gacha banning you from using gacha character
Ember
that would be pretty counterproductive 

i said provides buffs/debuffs. she provides none of that
ember in phys team is equivalent of using jean in a geo team
As a9 have race we can have:
Race specific content
Element specific content
Class specific content

Oh I recall now
It's a brown dust thing
Clear stage with 3 defenders, clear with only 3* units
Etc
But not a thing in ak eh
I remember when Brown Dust went by a different name at first
can't remember the name doh
before BD2 or any of that
Brave nine
which didn't make sense

I never figured out why they called it that
When there's 8 octos
It was a great game because
maybe close to EOS, but I joined damn near launch so I had to actually grind ts out the mud
kindness of FGO
Then it didn't make money and closed and now we got bd2 that I can't figure out how to play
2 of them 
It was so fun at the end too
all the new op units I was trying out
You play bd2 with one hand 
Join fire emblem heroes any time
it's the exact same game but just way smaller. like 6 units max or some pathetic shit
Don't join feg
6x4 grid only
Feh is ass
the story mode is also stupid
The mechanics too different and story gated
And paragraphs

no I mean like, even once you reach the way later shit
it's the exact same game
but with smaller teams and a smaller board

Bruh
Succ
Fire emblem heroes is like the only game i actually read the story
But not skip
Because im too bored
Holy it's gbf

I'll make sure you never rest
They have a lot of waifu too
Feh story is dog shit too
I tried it again 4 months ago and I was snoring
The real fun is pvp with whales /s
They got so much useless filler content
got a bunch of random minutia
"when the moon is full, and only if you're a sagittarius, this unit procs astra 6 times with guaranteed crits. Oh, but if you're blood type AB your crits do 60% damage"

I only played once, and it was to reroll for Female Grima Robin years ago cause I liked the look on her face

stopped within a week
pepsi mc
I remember them
sorta
they were made by Vtuber designers

I think the same one that made Baelz's character design
dev making tldr for their character kit is something
They power creep the previous limited banner each time
I just... Stopped at some point
+10 just to lose to a +0 new unit the next week 
lol
why Poggers sword
2 of that 6* for who
when termite exists
antal is better
also cause pog is chad and he wants his sig
just have 2nd one
also i rolled on pog sig banner cause it has good offrates
very last yeah
The only husbando fan
now im good to sit until the next male

Well deserved
the last thing i wanted is chen sig
but it's worse than sundering steel
but sundering steel is FUGLY
but in quick combat i wont see it much anyway so eh
okay now time to look up the new team rotation
catcher lived exactly one day
cutiepie
at least i gave him more attention than 99% of the playerbase
and just to confirm before someone accuses me of misinfo. thermite is better i just wanted the drip
cuz thermite looks ass stupid on him
so ake gets thermite
👍
but the diff is like sub ~5%
at best
so im barely losing out on anything in return for drip
as a general rule of thumb atk% will ALWAYS be better than anything else
cuz it applies to base atk before any of the attirbute bonuses
so thermite's measly looking teamwide 16% atk buff is pretty substantial
meanwhile pog sig gives dmg% instead of atk so it's just more diluted thus worse
im talking from the context of phys rn
but yes ofc in laev team it's only laev who cares xd
well in phys ig it can buff 3,4dps
but for phys lifeng and chen both do meaningful dps
if i get p3 lifeng at some point hes gonna go crazy now that i rolled sig
surely i can lose to him 1 more time 
tho now that i kinda want it it will not happen
Oh hey a free selector
yassssssssssssssssss babyyy
You can get your pog
get a lifeng
honestly if pog came home earlier i would get lifeng p3 from this
but he didnt
I dunno who I want, I have lifeng and pog
in due im sure i'll get that p3 too
No
Surtr with arde
p2 is okay and p3-p4-p5 are insane
oh
Probably gonna get her dupe maybe
yea it's arde or lifeng p1
your pick
imo lifeng p1 is better
if you actually play lifeng
cuz helps with his rotation restriction
arde p1 is just more number
thats all
I dont like him so probably not gonna play him
If I did play phys its pengmin chen pog, dunno who for fourth tho
But its probably not lifeng
it is
Gonna be some future support char
tangtang phys
lifeng completes that team
lets go
the first to go from there will be endmin
when we get a better dps
and then chen
Probably, some 6* phys onfielder is gonna replace her
probably
Pog is the hardest to replace, has the most value
Pog probably most future proof char in standart
Upcoming chars are Tangtang, Rossi, Mi Fu, Zhuang
She's frontloaded in the character teaser
idk
feels 6*
Rossi 5*?
Kinda shit design
Click x Closure
i like that cat
also gun
Male char is prob related to that guy we first meet in Wuling
Looks similar
or its the same guy with a hair color change, idk
has the spear and everything
Evil Alphenaud?
prob
I'm feeling that any 5 stars coming aren't in the teaser
and those 6 chars are all 6 stars
2 banners per patch
3 banners per patch
don't think we know how many banners per patch yet
we do know officially they've stated that that teaser is for the new chars for the "next two version updates"
so if they're all 6* then it's 3 per patch or 2 of them are 5*s and it's 2 banner per patch
seems like 3 per patch
which is a dick move tbh
if you want to save enough for all 3 you need 320 pulls minimum
and so far at least
they don't give even enough for 2
there's a big diff between not being able to get 1
and not being able to get 2
idk about you
but there is to me
cuz I don't imagine future regions will be
as good as launch region either
with 135 pulls from permanent content
and we don't have a
genshin abyss
to fuel consistent pulls
so everything literally hinges on events
right now
also
I'm fine with skipping characters if the one I pull isn't shit
Yvonne is in such a bad spot right now
I want her but it's gonna feel so bad to use her
Idk why you assume 3 per patch at all
But coin flip
My biased guess is 2 per patch
cuz of the way their off rate system is designed
2 in 7 to lose to a limited of said patch
and they called the first 3 limiteds a cycle
only makes sense to assume future cycles will also be 3
system is pointless if it's 2 otherwise
1 in 6 to get the other limited wow
did character quests
Wulf was w/e
Yvonne was aight
Leavi still the best out of 3 imo
lifeng p1 is the best value in there
easily
lr p3 is really good so it's nice to get a head start on that too
arde p1 is fine but in the grand scheme of thigns it doesnt really do much it's just...bigger number
wouldnt pick anyone else's pot
no they've specifically said
release is diff because all banners will always work where the last 2 limiteds are in your 50/50 loss pool
so the system will work 2 or 3 banners per patch
I see
roster needs to be filled so i can have rotational setup in ship
so what you're telling me is
as soon as whoever is right after yvonne banner is here you get repeat of lae loss pool

skip yvonne pull other 2 banners
so if I lose 50 50 I can at least get something
man that's a lot of skipping

you can always save it for some obscure future team comp you might want
potentialman
Pog is prob the best one long term
Then Lifeng prob
lastrite is a greedy bitch that wants to suck me dry for everything I have and I'm not about that right now
p0 lifeng
so yeah
that's why I don't know what to use it on
Lifeng has a lot of QoL with his P1
from what I hear
Battle skill Turbid Avatar improved: Physical Susceptibility +5%; also triggers this additional effect to enemies with no more than 2 Vulnerability stack(s).
Yeah it fixes his main kneecap
I'd get that
maybe
when I have the resources to actually build phys
still waiting to find out if rossi and tang tang are phys
Her weapon is a gun, so maybe phys
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p1 lifeng is the best pot you can get there
if u wanna play phys
wulf's wep is a gun and hes no phys
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pog look cool
where do u get the ticket
in your mail soon
what is that team
they forgot the actual dps
thx hg, this is useless 
bruh that's nothing if you're already past that level of progression in the factory

it's not meant for you, it's for the people that are earlier in the game
they're kinda acknowledging that there's no good reason to make any gear with that shit lmao
sadly they give us already past that nothing, just trash for my depot
need big blue sword 
okay pls dont trust this vid xd
multiple misinfo
I'm feeling electric DPS
i just realized the only standard 6* im missing are the males
the best ones to get 
ember mentioned lol
she shouldnt be
mc shouldnt be played without lifeng
in that team
and ember should be arde if lifeng is not available
or catcher if you must

ember is literally not doing anything in that team
that catcher couldnt do better
sad ember noises
she should have been an actual heat character
with a heat kit
or she should have been dealing phys dmg if she was meant for phys
this is just not working like this xd
and you really dont want to run endmin with pog without lifeng
you cant sustain a double rot
having them pair up making me not want to use that ticket any soon
so assuming no lifeng the next best thing is pog chen arde panda
and if no pog either then the next best thing is just shatter with chen endmin alesh estella
but if no pog and no lifeng why are u forcing phys

pog cool vibe
Remember if you invest in LR you're signing yourself up to pull on the first limited support she needs
Phys too honestly
Though that team is more complete

Defender as a role is just big suck atm
They kinda dont fit anywhere where someone else wouldn't do better
maybe it the general 3d genshin type game problem? 
some madlad will find secret ember tech
u don't need both medic and defender
i believe
phys needs a dps
tbh
endmin is fine for now but we could use a premium dps
john lee is useless most of the time too
hes mostly there for comfort for some units who really dont want to be interrupted and cant dodge cuz their combo drops
like if we had a shielder defender who likes put up a fat shield with interrupt resist
yvonne would appreciate that
well anti interrupt is one good thing too
shes a premier case of "hit me and my whole combo dies"
i want to do my combo as laev not being interrupt ed
defender combo skill is when you get hit, which well, hmm
nono thats just ember being shitty
catcher combo triggers on enemy chargeup too
which is instantly more useful
and the other trigger is getting below 40% hp which also makes more sense
ember just....get hit
okay
shes just not good sadly
but the game isnt anywhere near a spot where you couldnt clear something cuz you run ember
so if someone likes her go for it
too hard to do jumpless
just walk
for that one i've setup a zipline ontop of the building next to it
just zip ontop and drop down
walking works too yeah
smh
Time to jet
i got lr weapon essence first try lets go
i took pog
automatically
theyll stop working and just walk off
wait
i think i should play the electro team
i have all of the 6 star weapons for all of them
idk if that's a flex lmao
but i also dont wanna level up more people, that'd be a third team
i leveled most of them to 20
You should at least first tier promote everyone so they can be useful in Dijiang
I sell meds for 30 bucks but these people charge thousands for food?
We're not greedy enough huh
i need to start crafting food


I mean rossi have much animated cutscene and a cool ass weapon to be a 6*
Endmin sup or something

Or laev sub dps that kick out wulf
might be a timezone thing
fuck pridwen
Its the same as sv time
5 pm jst for asia
Tomorrow
Since its based on server time
Prydwen might be on eu/NA fhen
damn 2026 we still use prydwen
I'll become a paid hypergriefter if they do it
😳
these ar capped missions are so ahh
WHERE IS TUNA 
tuna?
Dailies is me pressing transfer jobs until I find wuling huh
time to try again next week
It's known that tuna took most of the luck from this channel
Withdrawing like an outpost

She feels like the kind of char I'll regret not having later lol
Limited supports usually do that
Yep
then pull her on guarantee banner?
That's my thought too
nah fuck that
Idk how it synergizes
we dont care meta
Her banner comes in 2 days
The weapon I want is Yvonne tho. If I get yvonne
Does anyone know if Yvonne will hit 100% crit with her wrp
Lmao
get crit gear
only 1 right?
Road u got the maximum crit numbers achievable now?
cehcking
Ty 
~80%
80% via food already?
yes
Then her weapon is 20%
They got you
That's 96%-100%
thats counting her weapon
13.5+13.5+11.2 - 3pc MI
19.5 - 9/9 crit weapon
21 - food
but yeah I don't mind losing my 50/50 to either other limited banner
would suck to get a standard but it is what it is
actually...
88.7%. forgot setbonus
95.4% if you want to use the MI chest instead of something else
no idea what that is
horrible for bosses?
can u even lift boss?
yeah who cares about fodder 
nature is more realistic
Yeah a boss somehow has minions
Anyway she's still worth getting tbh
I think the endgame mode is going to ask for two teams
maybe three like WW
and she's just about as good as Ardelia in her role
and I think nearly every team wants Ardelia or Gilberta
besides a few exceptions like sustainless phys
@last sluice why is Rossi Simp censored but Ardelia Simp isnt 🥀
funny because Rossi and Simp arent prohibited words alone but when used it becomes censored
cn game censorship never fails to be interesting

I only checked for ardelia and rossi idk if its the same case for others
At least I can simp for Ardelia I guess
imma gonna
and try to input da wei's and the cn governments full names for the funni
https://x.com/AKEndfield/status/2019259693395239405 a lot of good operator art here
Real subtle
"fan art"
@last sluice @fast root okay nvm I broke the censor system
I still cant put "#" instead of no.1 because its apparently a prohibited word, while the Rossi Simp was classified as a sensitive word
but idc, I claimed my spot 
We are gaming today 
How much we talkin
4k?
5k?
I'm gonna wait until I see a shop with over 5k
America/EU server has to wait an extra 13 hours for Gilberta side mission

nobody wants to work any more 
Wuling bills just aren't good enough for you people
WTFFFF
WHY DOES IT NOT SHOW UP ON MINE
I'm spamming refresh already
Hoolheyak 
Now to farm likes for this route
She gonna be 5* 













maybe good