#Wuthering Waves
radiant fox
You had me in the first half
scenic condor
denia is his other bis
radiant fox
Now you make me sad with mornye being a must
scenic condor
for now shes an absolute must
shes the only character who can provide buildup rate
radiant fox
Can I just make do with Denia and Luuk?
scenic condor
no
well
no
probably?
maybe?
it's hard cuz they gutted denia's tbb buff
and now it's tied to off-tune buildup rate
to make sure luuk cant let go of mornye
All Resonators in the team gain 10 Tune Break Boost. When a Resonator in the team has an Off-Tune Buildup Rate over 100%, every 10% that runs over increases the Resonator's Tune Break Boost by 8, up to 40.
and mornye is the only one who can push you over 100%
so denia tbb buff will simply not proc without her
like if you have mornye then lynae is probably better than denia even if the outro doesnt match fully
bc lynae provides tbb unconditionally
and tbb is the most important stat for luuk bc his self-amp scales from it
radiant fox
Then... Who's Denia meant for?
She's like... So gutted and you say she's like 2nd best favorite
scenic condor
Then... Who's Denia meant for?
luuk (strain) and amy (fusion burst)
her full usefulness for luuk is just tied to mornye 😄
they really wanted to restrict luuk
and prevent him from abusing sanhua/sk+denia
hes pretty much locked to denia+mornye now
with lynae as the denia alternative (in which case mornye is a tiny bit less important, still important tho)
if you want denia for luuk, get mornye too
if you want denia for amy then chisa is the last slot - but not as vital and has many alternatives. but u said u have no interest in amy
also we dunno when luuk comes back we dunno lucy's kit either
so lots of factors to consider
radiant fox
I think I'll just take my chances, which is bad. Because I got pity broken by Lingyang multiple times in a row
It's a good thing he brought extra corals with him so I can take Hiyuki s3 with it 😊
@scenic condor I still have like 20k left... Should I take my chances with Mornye even tho she's not really my preferred chara
scenic condor
I think I'll just take my chances, which is bad. Because I got pity broken by Li...
we all know this feeling
scenic condor
<@155066250534453249> I still have like 20k left... Should I take my chances wit...
what is your next main goal?
radiant fox
what is your next main goal?
wait until another Lingyang modeled male chara arrive and hopefully they're decent
which I assume is a delusional goal so I just want to get the next main dps that catches my eye
radiant fox
maybe they will collab with PGR and bring Liyan here?
scenic condor
who
radiant fox
uh that guy
radiant fox
darn it
scenic condor
but hes here alrdy. Lingyang is basically him just shittier design
I didn't know u had a thing for medium males
radiant fox
gasps you didn't?
scenic condor
nop
radiant fox
I feel like I could relate to them since I am also on the shorter side
that's all XD
scenic condor
anw this goal doesn't help your decision rn
radiant fox
so what would?
scenic condor
so what would?
well if the current patch's banners do not interest you and you have no past dps that you want either just save for someome in the future ig
basically figure out your priorities
is what im saying
marble sapphire
yet again Phrolova carries the winner to the finish line
who even is favored here...
scenic condor
@radiant fox i read thru denia kit again since i didnt rlly fully read thru after beta was over. seems like even without mornye she will be luuk bis
bc even without mornye she will still give 10 tbb + reel set gives another 20 so overall she'll give 10 less than lynae in exchange for a much better outro
grouping
and a WAY faster cycle
cuz lynae is ass slow
scenic condor
alr we made it
no more missing crits
just gotta finish up cuntyrella's rejuv set
and then we are set
but im out of fkin xp again
and tuners are goin low toooooo
limber swan
Echo xp has always been scarce
Ever since i has to suddenly build 2 characters
(Mornye and hiyuki)
radiant fox
<@348635455090327565> i read thru denia kit again since i didnt rlly fully read ...
So Denia Luuk is okay?
old summit
so what boss mats does denia need to level up?
scenic condor
So Denia Luuk is okay?
ye
and you can pick up mornye in the future
to complete the team
scenic condor
so what boss mats does denia need to level up?
bro it's literally in game
go to ascension planner
and look at her
old summit
oh is denia in it
scenic condor
lazy ass
scenic condor
current patch characters are always in
even if they are phase 2
bc shes already patched into the game
radiant fox
@scenic condor should I get SK from the beginner banner? probably better to just get chisa right?
scenic condor
<@155066250534453249> should I get SK from the beginner banner? probably better ...
chisa is not in the beginner banner, yes you should get SK from the beginner banner using STANDARD PULLS ONLY. do NOT use your limited pulls/asterites
yes you can go get chisa next week if you like but if you pulled s3 hiyuki alrdy shes not reliant on chisa anymore either (but it is a nice boost to have her)
tho i would probably get mornye+denia instead if you are interested in luuk/denia and not interested in amy
marble sapphire
https://x.com/i/status/2055190571527090264 haha thanks merch leaks...
X
toxic nebula
marble sapphire
It's a merch Collab so not the in game design
vapid prairie
yangsui and suiyang
marble sapphire
theres a few tidbits here and there that the whole penpal thing between Yangyang and Rover is actually a thing
vapid prairie
https://x.com/i/status/2055190571527090264 haha thanks merch leaks...
People already guessing she's 4 star from the resonator mark
scenic condor
It's a merch Collab so not the in game design
but how do we even know how suisui looks like what
marble sapphire
well...you can see "Suisui" written there
radiant fox
tho i would probably get mornye+denia instead if you are interested in luuk/deni...
So get mornye? Is she a healer?
scenic condor
So get mornye? Is she a healer?
shes a healer who buffs break buildup rate
outside break teams shes a worse sk/verina
with break teams shes the best
radiant fox
...? Break? What's that?
Omg is she Lingsha?
Nvm then
Skip
Actually her animation is so good
weak jay
https://x.com/i/status/2055190571527090264 haha thanks merch leaks...
@vapid prairie pistol
radiant fox
I am quitting this game, I lost to another 50:50 and hard pitying mornye
limber swan
As someone who lost every 50.50 since account creation
I know that feeling all too well
toxic nebula
I will win Denia even if I dont have the funds because I am him
dont tell anyone I quit playing this game after thelast Phrolova banner ended
limber swan
radiant fox
four 50:50 in a row
Darn it
It's not good for my mental health to be reminded of such cursed gacha session
scenic condor
...? Break? What's that?
tune break
strain and rupture
it's the 3.x shill mechanic
luuk is a strain dps
amy is rupture
thats why luuk needs mornye badly
even more than amy i'd say
bc his dmg scales from strain stacks so hes backloaded
mornye speeds up the stacking process
so you get him online faster
and of course shes key to maxing out denia's buffs (because her buff scales from the buildup rate % which only mornye provides)
scenic condor
I am quitting this game, I lost to another 50:50 and hard pitying mornye
this is me in all hoyo games
radiant fox
this is me in all hoyo games <:WheezeTao:798596939619762197>
Okay so do I need, like really need any of their sequences or weapon. I only can do 1 more pity hit
I also have enough corals for 1 sequence
scenic condor
by "their" you mean who
mornye?
no
discord is fine for her as a wep (4* bb)
s1 is kinda bait, but good if you want to use her outside of break teams (it makes her dmg buff universal), not at all necessary tho
as for denia, her dupes are mid so skip them
her sig is nice to have but not a must
i would stop here now
save your pulls for denia if you wanted her
mornye on s0 is enough with discord
and if you have enough pulls by then you can grab chisa+sig if you want to
if no interest in phrolo at all
radiant fox
Okay then
limber swan
Pull denia she cute
Just ignore the uh, thernodian resonator stuff
She can be fixed
scenic condor
Pull denia she cute
shes just mostly useless
if an account has no amy or luuk
they curbed her damage too much
marble sapphire
https://x.com/i/status/2054987528097485299 booba lady?
https://x.com/i/status/2055146613505503626 wait I have seen this before
X
radiant fox
https://x.com/i/status/2055146613505503626 wait I have seen this before
Nahida???
marble sapphire
i won
i did realize that Iuno's ability is not good if she activated it while she's way in the lead
vapid prairie
Ngl I thought Changli was gonna be the loser of losers
marble sapphire
its an ability that relies on being on the cube stack
meanwhile as demonstrated, Luuk's ability is one huge double edged sword
scenic condor
And does her amy comp require lupa (?)
I assume so
amy+denia and then pick between lupa/chisa. lupa is stronger, chisa is sustain so safer
up to you
lupa version should be stronger obviously if u can pilot sustainless quickswap comp
double intro into amy
quickswap is a given cuz...why else would you play lupa
but for skill issued ppl amy denia chisa will be comfier
cuz it has sustain
but overall it should be about the same as 123 lupa
so denia+lupa is the best, denia+lupa/chisa no quickswap is about the same (just go chisa cuz comfy sustain)
it can also depend on lupa invest and all
cuz lupa invests are pretty big jumps while denia/chisa invests are just personal dmg
but all this is kinda moot point bc at the end of the day rupture amy is stronger than fb amy (just extremely boring to play)
open copper
Also, YapYap Tacet’s Mark is now Blue.
Did we have any other Tacet Mark with alternative coloring before?
vapid prairie
Also, YapYap Tacet’s Mark is now Blue.
Did we have any other Tacet Mark with alt...
Not counting Aemeath?
open copper
Oh yeah, there is Amy.
But I don’t remember any other Tacet Mark like that.
That sounds interesting, wonder if it’s relevant to the Lore or something
vapid prairie
But I don’t remember any other Tacet Mark like that.
That sounds interesting, wo...
There's Denia too but that's another extreme case. Other than Threnodian/Sentinel relation, the only way I know someone can gain physical change related to their mark is via Overclocking.
open copper
I don’t need you need to Overclock to mutate.
Ciaccona and Lupa haven’t, I think
YapYap is releasing in the same spot as Phrolova last year.
Wonder if she get special treatment (and she is probably powercreeping her)
vapid prairie
Dunno if it's just an collab art thing but the earlier Yangyang image doesn't have the feathers she typically has due to Overclocking 
open copper
Probably Collab stuff.
The new Collab art also lacks the … “Tatoos” around New YapYap neck.
radiant fox
What future chara that will Hiyuki' dedicated support?
limber swan
Lucilla, which is next patch
radiant fox
Okay so what kinda budget support can she use?
limber swan
If you really want to go down the barrel, jianxin
Or an S5 baizhi, but thats if you're desperate
Without lynae/chisa it can be rough
Good old shorekeeper should do as well, although you may overcap on crit with her.
vapid prairie
@toxic nebula RAAAAAAH
marble sapphire
the one time she wins and it had nothing to do with her ability
everything here reeks of "Sure let's go with that"
her forte report, like Lynae's, is clearly made up
open copper
That the Fractsidus is also funding Startorch Academy is heavily implied.
radiant fox
Reddit
limber swan
scenic condor
https://www.reddit.com/r/HiyukiMains/s/PNRCUANUVa
pixels pls
Reddit
this is better quality
rain ether
weak jay
dont watch that
marble sapphire
Uh... How much more time and budget did they spend on collab animations...
Wasn't expecting actual 2D esque cuts in Rebecca's animations
marble sapphire
X
marble sapphire
open copper
I wonder how much in control she is of the second form.
Also, why she likes Tetris so much?
old summit
marble sapphire
Augusta's ability activated at the best possible moment for her
scenic condor
https://fixupx.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/2055845771346395469
it's such a fkin shame they gutted her dmg
shes so pretty
also why are we back to everybody having basic ass american accent
-_-
we did so well in 2.x with varied accents and even within US accents there are so many different ones but they just use the clean basic one
idk who denia VA is
but i think they are british by default
that bit by bit part sounded very british
marble sapphire
Jodie Bell Cortez, American...based in London
scenic condor
maybe just that one line then
anyway
i want the varied accents back 
cuz eng dub has been feeling snooze, not bad quality still ofc just boring
vapid prairie
Luuk survived in the EU server?
limber swan
i finally won a bet for once,
denia won in NA
vapid prairie
He came dead last in SEA
Like last in the losers race
Which I thought was gonna be Changli since she consistently underperforms
radiant fox
Thank God I didn't return during Aemeath run
She's so clunky
With mornye and lynea team, (from the combat mastery event)
Hiyuki is waaay smoother to play for me
Even I had better score with sigrika
marble sapphire
you might need to actually read on her rotation 😛
radiant fox
you might need to actually read on her rotation 😛
I did
I watched video on her rotation
Still too clunky for me
scenic condor
Still too clunky for me
i feel you
i pretty much never play her anymore unless forced
having to do the extra ba4 set after her rot is just feelsbad
bc you have to cram everything into 8s for burst part
so you cant be farming up the stacks then
in break with lyn+morn that is
she feels much MUCH better in quickswap
bc you simply eliminate this clunky part of her rot
her ba2+skill flows seamlessly into changli/chisa/lupa
if brant didnt exist i'd probably enjoy amy more but as it is lupa/changli are not available to her
radiant fox
Brant still prefers QS team? He's not using mornye + whatever 2nd slot?
scenic condor
Brant still prefers QS team? He's not using mornye + whatever 2nd slot?
ofc
no
why would he use mornye
mornye is for break teams
brant is not a break dps
only reason to use mornye in brant team is if ur missing changli so you can keep lupa's monofusion buffs
but if ur missing lupa then he should just go double intro sanhua with sk/verina
mornye is a downgrade to both of those
toxic nebula
same I dont get the hype
idk that framchise and the character designs come off as mid to me
..now if they collab with date a live that would be a different story
scenic condor
did you get traumatized?
i honestly crigned thru most of it
every other second it was another edgelord moment but unlike the isekai power trip shit i usually enjoy it wasnt meant to be an edgelord moment it just felt....cringe
and in the end it didnt lead to anywhere
and we learned that we are specks of dust in the machine of capitalism
yay?
i get the appeal, but neither the art style, nor the world or the characters really resonated with me
i skipped the game for the same reason
that said rebecca was a cool character sadly the series is so short we barely got to know her but she was probably the only one i kinda liked
david was snooze
lucy was snooze
and the rest of the characters are pretty much a blank in my head
maybe because the struggles this show portrays are ordinary in the sense that we get to feel like this on the daily
and i feel small enough already so i dont rlly need to go watch it as entertainment
but tbh if the theme was not cyberpunk but a fantasy setting or even something like railgun i probably would have liked it more? this theme being so far from my tastes perhaps prevented me from giving it more of a chance
limber swan
i like how david is just... a guy like you or me can probably take him on
byeah the anime has it's own charm, won't be for everyone.
scenic condor
charm is the last word i'd use for this one
limber swan
it is kinda ironic that they're collabing with a gacha game though, with the game having such a huge anti-corporate theme
scenic condor
every business is corporate
some just choose to make profit out of seeming the opposite
but ye it's a weird combo ?:D
still, they kinda fit lahai roi theme a bit with their style so i dont think they will look out of place
and if this was good for one thing
i understand why david isnt here
it wouldnt make sense for his story
sure rebecca is ded and all but it had way less meaning
i checked and apparently cdpr doesnt let david to be a part of any collab which is admirable. he was an everyman who in the end achieved nothing but in his life he had a JOURNEY. and the ending has a special meaning i guess that would be ruined by him showing up in collabs
pivot but lucilla looks so fucking boring man
yet again another burst mode char
she looks so cool with that whipsword thingy and hatless
but outside that her basics are so slow and clunky
seems like a full skip patch for me
looking forward to the incoming future resonator reveals tho
limber swan
knowing that 90% of the cast of edgerunners is dead, it do be pretty grim how they're collabing with ||Rebecca's corpse||
scenic condor
i mean it could just be from before thr time they event met david
David's eng VA being fucking genshin mc didnt help me take it seriously either
he did a good job but hes too tied to Aether for me
limber swan
never played genshin so i can't relate, byeah
old summit
anything in wuwa thats ending when denia banner is here
that i should do
or limited rewards
besides the races obv
marble sapphire
and we learned that we are specks of dust in the machine of capitalism
Consequence of being a prequel to CP2077 game so everything is a foregone conclusion
marble sapphire
marble sapphire
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2056580723231134038 what'cha doing there
old summit
scenic condor
Good thing I managed to get mornye so I can build team with her
now just gotta pray luuk wont be gone for a year
or we get another strain or fb user
cuz god knows shes doin abysmal dmg
radiant fox
@scenic condor mornye weapon good?
Or better to chase SK?
Or can anyone else provide any input please?
scenic condor
<@155066250534453249> mornye weapon good?
its fine but not needed and you cant afford it anyway
sk is good to get but you alrdy have mornye AND you can get verina for free from beginner stuff
sk starter banner is 30days only from acc creation and pity does not carry over to anything
only roll on that if u can guarantee u finish max pity
radiant fox
sk starter banner is 30days only from acc creation and pity does not carry over ...
Wait it's not? Noo I joke pulled for nothing....
scenic condor
and then u have hiyuki and three healers 🤣
radiant fox
shoulda read smh
You're expecting that from a tcg player?
radiant fox
Only ten
scenic condor
ah not too much wasted then
starter banner is only worth if u can guarantee (so 160)
radiant fox
How possible it is for me to get 10k more astrite by the time denia banners go away?
scenic condor
very
since most of ur world is probably unexplored
and you have a million quests to go thru
and old events
radiant fox
Nope, almost everything except lahai roi is explored
scenic condor
fully?
you did all the old events too?
all side missions?
wow
well then idk
keep grinding and you'll see ig
scenic condor
well do them
radiant fox
Yeah every place before lahai roi is only lacking like 12% exploration left at most
scenic condor
Yeah every place before lahai roi is only lacking like 12% exploration left at m...
thats ... not full xd
keep going
you can do it
scenic condor
How much astrite can I even get?
im not a calculator bruh
just go and do it and you'll see
and no im not pulling for lucy
and rebecca is free
if lucy wasnt spectro maybe
but between luuk and zanipeeb my spectro needs are fully covered
but if you are interested in her, she can make use of your mornye
her best team will be rebecca+mornye and with current beta calcs shes weaker than both luuk and zani. shes around carlotta level for now
marble sapphire
Anyone here pulling for the collab charas?
nope, i already decided that since last year
or whenever they announced it
radiant fox
her best team will be rebecca+mornye and with current beta calcs shes weaker tha...
I remember when carlotta was the best glacio
radiant fox
or whenever they announced it
Ah okay
If only they bring in David as well I might've caved
scenic condor
I remember when carlotta was the best glacio
everybody remembers that cuz it was the case for more than a year
scenic condor
If only they bring in David as well I might've caved
cdpr never lets david into any collab
marble sapphire
just check all the edgerunners collabs
scenic condor
You sure?
yep
they want david's story to be contained within the original story
so it gives it an extra feeling of finality
i guess
marble sapphire
he's the tragic hero of the story basically. He thought he was unique and powerful like CP2077 V but...he wasnt
scenic condor
he's the tragic hero of the story basically. He thought he was unique and powerf...
i dont think thats the moral of the story
because was unique and special
the point is that it doesnt matter
like this is why i didnt rlly care for this story at all
cuz my takeaway was that no matter how unique or special you are and how much you try you will never amount to anything unless you got the right background and connections
or you fall in line with ruling elite's rules
ionic quiver
oh mai girl win
vapid prairie
Aemeath has had 2 6th places in a row on SEA
scenic condor
Reddit
this is the problem with ppl
they see this and lose their minds thinknig it's some gigabrain qs rot
when it's the simplest thing ever
i think ppl just call any swap witohut fully finishing a rotation a "quickswap"
when it's no different from simple shit like when u had to funnel energy into xiangling with benny
it's just a swap, no quickswap there
like try doing jiyan cia qs
or the sweaty ass cia carty chisa team
now thats gigabrain
now that i think about it sweatiest qs teams all involve ciaccona
this vid example had 3 actual quickswaps
all involving qsing chisa's usual qs points
ba3 (scissor cut) / skill (switch to chainsaw) / forte ba2 (chainsaw attacks)
with hiyuki ba3+ midair skill / lucilla skill / hiyuki ba3 at the respective swap points
chisa is baby's first quickswap character bc these 3 exact qs points are SO obvious and have a very very generous swap window
this aint wallenstein crazy million swaps in a second type vid
this is literally how chisa's basic gameplay looks like in any team shes in
no different from swapping off during yinlin or changli forte
or carlotta skill2
but i understand that it can be confusing if you never bothered to understand chisa. so just learn these 3 points and u already play better than most ppl it seems
frankly im surprised kuro let hiyuki get away with quickswaps. if she was a true 3.x dps she'd lose her white form on swap
marble sapphire
Aemeath has had 2 6th places in a row on SEA <:KEKHands:819036396714065960>
Her ability is mainly useful if she has average luck...
last nest
every other second it was another edgelord moment but unlike the isekai power tr...
Feel you kind of have to be into the whole cyberpank vibe for it. It didn't do anything for me either for the same reason
But a lot of younger people love the "fuck capitalism" message
open copper
Big corpos have been profiting from Punk Rebellion ever since they started selling those T-shirts.
Also, is it normal for Hiyuki to just have extra ER?
I only have some 9% rechage from echoes, but she somehow has 1.24 ER
last nest
Big corpos have been profiting from Punk Rebellion ever since they started selli...
cyberpunk is kind of a parody of itself as a genre this days tbh. It's litteraly big corpos telling you about the evils of big corpos
open copper
Well, it started as a Tabletop Game, but I don’t think people even know this.
last nest
Cyberpunk itself is kind of funny things it's a reflection of anti japanease fears that took over USA at the time
scenic condor
But a lot of younger people love the "fuck capitalism" message
fuck capitalism but capitalism won in the fuck capitalism story too so....what are saying exactly 
last nest
ye that's kind of the point. A lot of modern popular media has a very fake "anti capitalism" vibe
open copper
The Dystopia winning is the norm in the classical Dystopia Lit.
last nest
less about dystopia and more about how modern cyberpunk setting kind of has the good guy corpos in it
litteraly "not all corpos"
radiant fox
ba3 (scissor cut) / skill (switch to chainsaw) / forte ba2 (chainsaw attacks)
What does it mean by forte ba2?
limber swan
Its chisa's basic while in chainsaw mode iirc
Where she gathers the mobs and lunges
Typically ends her roation with it
radiant fox
What does forte even means in combo vids then? Since other combo video I see have some forte BA, forte heavy attack, etc...
old summit
What does forte even means in combo vids then? Since other combo video I see hav...
things that are enhanced by your forte
radiant fox
Forte is passives right
limber swan
Its the bar in the middle
Each character has a different condition or resource that fills it up
vapid prairie
Under 20 pity again to steal all the luck from @toxic nebula coping he'll do the same
vapid prairie
time to actually play this game
Nah. You're too busy prefarming Lacrimosa and Genshin clanker 🥀
marble sapphire
I just woke up but I'll get her...
limber swan
i need that chisa rerun to get here already
radiant fox
i need that chisa rerun to get here already
Is Chisa really good? Should I get her? I have Hiyuki rn and I've people say that Chisa is important?
vapid prairie
time to actually play this game
1 hour already. Imma assume you lost the 50/50 
marble sapphire
...i wasnt expecting that
limber swan
Is Chisa really good? Should I get her? I have Hiyuki rn and I've people say tha...
she's good for aemeath fusion burst teams and mandatory for hiyuki
if you have either and want them to perform at their best, she's good
vapid prairie
When's the next 10 free pulls? Imma dump that Phrolova ig
Doubt I'll finish any pull milestones on the collab
marble sapphire
wonder if this is enough
or do i need more ER
well the guides arent out yet so this is it for now
skipping patches in a row be like
argh
i already got Resonance Chain 1 for Denia in like 30 rolls 🙃
now sitting at 2800 obtained, i can get the rest
ionic quiver
Is Chisa really good? Should I get her? I have Hiyuki rn and I've people say tha...
chisa right now has 3 team
cart
hiyuki
toxic nebula
1 hour already. Imma assume you lost the 50/50 <:Slep:818673377371881473>
nah let me eat lunch first
ionic quiver
aemeath with dennia
people been doomposting her for a while since her release
people who read and analyze gameplan
invest in her
:xdd
marble sapphire
i got 100+ rolls but if i am skipping collab anyway then...who knows what the amount will be by Mengzhou
vapid prairie
509gb out of 528gb
Delete HSR. You ain't pulling for Sparxie anyway 🥀
toxic nebula
I nuked azur lane off
vapid prairie
Rip Formidable
toxic nebula
rn I have hsr, genshin, wuwa, nte, endfield
vapid prairie
rn I have hsr, genshin, wuwa, nte, endfield
And the rest of storage is Sparkle
marble sapphire
X
scenic condor
Is Chisa really good? Should I get her? I have Hiyuki rn and I've people say tha...
didnt you get s3 hiyuki
scenic condor
she's good for aemeath fusion burst teams and mandatory for hiyuki
shes not mandatory for hiyuki s3, which erial has
iirc
but she is really good
1h till denia damn
go away hiyuki stop tempting me
scenic condor
What does it mean by forte ba2?
forte ba2 means her chainsaw basic 1-2. chainsaw mode is available when her forte is full. forte is the core passive of every character, some get another form/mode/state from it
scenic condor
Also I got Denia (thank God winning 50:50), also should I get her weapon?
if you are fully against rolling phrolova then ye get denia sig
radiant fox
if you are fully against rolling phrolova then ye get denia sig
Actually I'll just for its rerun
scenic condor
you do not have a carry for her so if you want to play her the only way is to try to make her the carry - wont be good but will be playable ig
radiant fox
I wanna save everything for Luuk
radiant fox
probably wait 😄
Yup
There's some weird dissonance between what's in my mind and what I type lol
scenic condor
only reason im trying to push phrolova on you is so you can comfortably clear endgame
but you seem to resist her too hard
radiant fox
I'd rather pull lucy since I have Mornye and Rebecca will be free
marble sapphire
||https://fixupx.com/i/status/2057310399008330211|| oh no, not this again
radiant fox
If it'll ever gets to that
radiant fox
||https://fixupx.com/i/status/2057310399008330211|| oh no, not this again
Ah yes Dr. Who iconic species
scenic condor
I'd rather pull lucy since I have Mornye and Rebecca will be free
lucy is basically early 2.0 in terms of power level but you will have her team for free so if u like her go ahead
marble sapphire
I wonder how many were traumatized by the doll level in RE Village DLC
scenic condor
she should have no problem clearing toa
im so sad denia got so many nerfs
shes definitely my favorite design in 3.x so far
radiant fox
Aaah I can't farm for Hiyuki' echoes anymore
I haven't unlocked Dimmr place
Curse this stupid area gatekeep for echoes
vapid prairie
Curse this stupid area gatekeep for echoes
Tacet field is locked but the echoes aren't
All of them are old echoes
vapid prairie
Nah there's a chance they drop the old sets
Just use the databook to track them in the first two areas
radiant fox
How to get for Hiyuki' specifically then?
scenic condor
echoes can be found in the overworld
not just tacet fields
you can go to data bank, select the set and track the specific echo pieces
on the map
you can also just...get to the area 😄
even without story apparently theres a way to glitch into it
but just progress story
s3 hiyuki has no problem tearing up anything in open world with WHATEVER echos
with okay subs
without any set bonus
sigh. im still toying with the idea of getting her but
denia is more important for me
also i really REALLY hate hiyuki's ult2
everything else is great. especially the high qs potential. and chisa would finally get a team
but that has to wait ig
limber swan
that's how people used to farm them back in 1.x before tacet fields
it was collectively called "echo picking"
scenic condor
wdym "before tacet fields"
tacet fields always existed
it was just impatient ppl
nowadays it's to specifically hunt for 1cost echos
cuz tacet fields have a higher chance of dropping 3cost than 1cost
but like we have targeted merge now - limited per week but still
back in the day we had the echo boxes in the weekly mode
but ofc thats gone now cuz kuro realized it was too efficient
toxic nebula
1 hour already. Imma assume you lost the 50/50 <:Slep:818673377371881473>
sike I'm guaranteed
all according to plan
I definitely did not forget I lost a 50/50
wtf
it was meant to be
all I had btw
scenic condor
👏
i'll roll in a bit
im just stuck in hiyuki story
ah wait 22 more mins
damn GO AWAY HIYUKI STOP TEMPTING ME
why tf is this delayed
and not happening with denia banner start
toxic nebula
just wait ig
my ahh being so behind meanwhile gotta finish septimont to upgrade denia 
cant even unlock the s1 yet 🥀
scenic condor
just wait ig
i dont need to wait lol
i have enuff pulls
fkin whore is coming at max pity it seems
yep this was like nearly 80
78 i think
scenic condor
she heard you calling her names
i said that when i was already at 70
also bike can fully fly now okay
so what was the point of the bike?
limber swan
i guess they gave up on designing maps around the bike, so they said fuck it
limber swan
the plains is literally just a bunch of uneven ground
with barely any roads, you're meant to fly all over the place
laharoi sure ain't the same however
scenic condor
with barely any roads, you're meant to fly all over the place
THEN ENABLE FYLING OMG
ONDASFKNDASKJNFKLFAN
i hate the stupid bike
scenic condor
also the really made sure denia dps is fully dead
she has NOTHING
and cant even upkeep form2
this is just sad
base form has less attack sequences than fakin 1.0 4*s
personal dmg got murdered just so luuk wont outdps amy
weak jay
toxic nebula
with barely any roads, you're meant to fly all over the place
ask Augusta if we can borrow those bird echos we used to fly over in the story
store it as quickswap gear in rover tacet mark
limber swan
Denia looking like a hard skippa honestly
Gotta go for the chisa rerun and save for lucilla
scenic condor
denia is a skip for most
shes too niche
fb amy is worse than rupture so unless you really want to play lynae elsewhere (or not play lynae at all) then denia will not do much for amy
the main benefit is the grouping and increased aoe with fb for whiwa
and luuk is not owned by many i'd imagine
she has no other teams besides amy and luuk
and her personal dmg is shit
limber swan
Grouping kinda makes luuk a whiwa god id imagine
But i skipped that man, so no real connection
scenic condor
Grouping kinda makes luuk a whiwa god id imagine
depends on how groupable the enemies are
i love how prydwen acts like denia is mainly for amy
when shes mainly for luuk
If Aemeath already has a strong team, but Luuk doesn't and needs a stronger fallback than Sanhua, then Denia in Tune Strain mode is his best in slot
bitch luuk is weaker than amy by default wdym IF he needs a stronger fallback
than sanhua
"strong personal damage"
these ppl dont know what strong personal dmg is
if they think denia has that
sure she does more dmg than mornye but come on
and not even recommending neon set
AT ALL
what are we doingggggggg clowns
vapid prairie
my ahh being so behind meanwhile gotta finish septimont to upgrade denia <:pepeg...
Have you even gotten round to stabbing Phrolova in main story?
toxic nebula
nah im at the augusta hunt part with the dino
scenic condor
it's ariel
hm?
vapid prairie
nah im at the augusta hunt part with the dino
Enjel actually saying a character name instead of hag
scenic condor
Oh wait. This ain't Enjel <:FortePensive:858396778915299328>
how dare u
toxic nebula
augusta doesnt even resgister as female to me
radiant fox
bitch luuk is weaker than amy by default wdym IF he needs a stronger fallback
What sequence do I need for Luuk for him to be bonkers but not super bonkers s6?
scenic condor
What sequence do I need for Luuk for him to be bonkers but not super bonkers s6?
he only gains dmg with sequences, no solo potential
radiant fox
he only gains dmg with sequences, no solo potential
That's exactly what I mean
scenic condor
we dont know when hes coming back anyway
tbh he gets a LOT of dmg
from s2 s3
like if you compare it to amy
his increases are higher
hiyuki too
tho dont be fooled by hiyuki numbers
neither luuk nor amy have solo potential
hiyuki s3 mogs both of them even if less "on paper" dps
but you have denia mornye for luuk so he will shine nicely
also you can skip on denia sig if your plan is to invest luuk
her damage is negligible
farm her a pact set with whatever stats, ensure she has enough energy to ult every rot and profit
radiant fox
her damage is negligible
Out of curiosity, will she ever be a dps with enough sequence?
scenic condor
no
i mean sure. s6 denia will be a "dps"
but you paid for s6 to have the damage of an s2 real dps (or even s0)
her damage just got gutted hard
radiant fox
How about for her buffing potential then?
scenic condor
sequences do not add any meaningful change
she is still tied to amy or luuk with next to no use outside those 2 teams
radiant fox
Darn... Very cute design wasted
scenic condor
and her sequences do not provide meaningful increase to her support focus either as they are mostly personal dmg focused
which is worthless cuz her dmg is just not worth investing in
better invest her carries instead
scenic condor
Darn... Very cute design wasted
i mean..not wasted. shes just niche 😄
but shes really strong in that niche
radiant fox
Please of please let there be equivalent exchange and let Kuro release something like this with a good kit
scenic condor
a shonen?
lul
good luck with that
2 males per year max
and they have all been tall males
lingyang take it or leave it
radiant fox
We still haven't got our male startorch student playable character right?
radiant fox
Please of please let there be equivalent exchange and let Kuro release something...
This is tall version of Len
Which there will be no more after I think
scenic condor
We still haven't got our male startorch student playable character right?
nop
we still have 1 more male to go
we only got startorch doctor
radiant fox
Okay so the next one must be the student right?
scenic condor
we dont know
some say it's an assassin boy
some say it's scar
some say it's shaper
just wait for reveal
radiant fox
some say it's scar
Ooh I'll take scar
scenic condor
we will get the reveals soon anyway
scenic condor
jiyan 
radiant fox
So... No more pulling for me this patch then?
scenic condor
thats up to you and your goals
chisa is a worthy pull for hiyuki
especially if you are willing to learn basic quickswap
ionic quiver
just basic qs
thers a "sweaty" QS for chisa lynae
but u dont need it anw for TOA
normal rotation is enough to clear
scenic condor
you do not need lynae
scenic condor
I only know the 123 rotation as well
then learn henny
i wrote the chisa basics earlier here
thats the bare minimum
above that is extra and you dont rlly need that
s3 hiyuki doesnt need lynae
sure nice but not NEEDED
you can just run hiyuki chisa verina just fine
chisa on her dmg set
and in that case best to get her sig too
if no interest in lucilla
radiant fox
above that is extra and you dont rlly need that
Would it be bad if I say I don't get it?
radiant fox
you can just run hiyuki chisa verina just fine
Why would I need 2 healers
I rather just get by with Lucilla + Verina by then
I just heard that Chisa havoc bane can replace the last glacio chaffe needed for Hiyuki s3, since she can only get to two stacks by her own... As per Hiyuki mains reddit replies
toxic nebula
and they have all been tall males
I wonder where rhe shounen went on hsr too
we aint even hiding it atp
vapid prairie
@toxic nebula Sparkle could never
ionic quiver
Why would I need 2 healers
chisa here is to give debuff
and give hiyuki def shred effect from cahfe
or w.e the debuff hiyuki give
its nice to see bigg pp 500k boom anw
scenic condor
Would it be bad if I say I don't get it?
watch a guide bro. like make some effort. quickswap basics are really simple once u understand but better to see it in motion rather than me writing down steps.
scenic condor
Why would I need 2 healers
chisa isnt a pure healer. she has decent personal dmg and shes there for def shred and to max out hiyuki passive. . heal+shield is just extra. verina is there for teamwide amp and atk buff from healer set.
scenic condor
I rather just get by with Lucilla + Verina by then
you said you didnt want lucilla at all. that's why i told you to get s3 hiyuki so you wouldnt need lucilla anymore. chisa is enough. lucilla has awful long rotation anyway
radiant fox
chisa isnt a pure healer. she has decent personal dmg and shes there for def shr...
Watching it is one thing, but copying it with bad hand-to-eye coordination is just hard. There's a reason some people aren't good at sports like basketball or fps games
I am one of those unfortunately
scenic condor
its really not that deep bro
u dont have to copy steps
just understand the principle behind qs windows
the beauty of qs is that it gives us flexibility and lets us push teams to higher limits thus ensuring longevity
also its s3 hiyuki, you can just ignore it and do 123 it will be fine
if u rlly dont wanna put effort into it
like i can teach you chisa basics on stream or something if u need but there are tons of vids on her
but trust me. well built s3 hiyuki is a solo monster. anything else you do (adding chisa, learning quickswap etc) is extra which you wont need until powercreep catches up to her
so dont worry abt this if its giving you anxiety
marble sapphire
i think i have an inherent disadvantage in sports due to having anisometropia. My eyesight is much worse in one vs the other
so unless i am wearing glasses i am effectively one eyed
to an extent
vapid prairie
This this is the lowest I've seen Aemeath odds
marble sapphire
people mainly vote on their favorites so no surprise
vapid prairie
Yeah but most rounds have a 1.9x and lowest are 1.20x
ionic quiver
Watching it is one thing, but copying it with bad hand-to-eye coordination is ju...
u dont have to do this perfectly
this game only need rotation
QS just make ur rotation fastrer
normal rotation is okay here
just dont randomly spam move
ionic quiver
souine nano
sup kyle
restive dirge
Got chisa in 30 pulls
How important is her sig?
That 24% team dmg actually worth it?
Because her own personal dmg is so low
scenic condor
How important is her sig?
needed if you want more out of her than just defshred
which alone wouldnt be enough for her to beat out amc for carty
especially if ur playing 123
her personal dmg is not that bad, not good but better than cantarella/denia
if ur picking her up for amy/hiyuki full team u can skip sig as she will be on rejuv anyway
restive dirge
Its mostly for hiyuki
scenic condor
assuming u pick up denia/lucilla
scenic condor
lucilla?
ciaccona?
do you need mc anywhere else?
are you planning to learn proper rotations or just 123
restive dirge
123 cruise control
scenic condor
then no for carty
you wont beat amc with sigless chisa 123
🤣
yes for hiyuki if not s3 hiyuki
you still want the passive stack for hiyuki from chisa bane
sig is less important, especially if ur grabbing lucilla
basically:
get chisa sig if:
- if shes on subdps duty with another healer as the 3rd for hiyuki/amy cuz ur missing lucilla/denia
- if you want to replace amc for carty/willing to learn proper qs rots, otherwise chisa isnt enough to kick amc
can skip chisa sig if:
- if shes on healer duty with lucilla/denia for hiyuki/amy
- in peeb case they are kinda equal with smc so depends on who has better subs, the other goes on rejuv
i personally got her sig too even tho shes on rejuv
and she lost her team 😅
so shes just warming the bench until i get a dps for her
marble sapphire
first and only time she wins for me sadly
vapid prairie
first and only time she wins for me sadly
Lemme guess. Aemeath last again?
marble sapphire
yes
radiant fox
just dont randomly spam move
That's just it, I do just that
scenic condor
That's just it, I do just that
then make an effort not to?
this isnt hand to eye coordination
its just understanding the concept
execution is not rlly the problem in general
but that ppl dont get the concept so they random spam
i struggled too when i tried to "copy" stuff especially when it was a new char and i didnt even recognize what parts of the kit certain animations corresponded to in a video. so watching showcases didnt help at all
understanding kits and WHY we are doing certain things is the key
after that you can adapt and use what you need instead of following someone else
learning monofusion was difficult but i learned so much about the game through that
chisa is the perfect training wheel for this with her obvious and generous qs windows on ba3 and all of her chainsaw moves
if you have questions abt specific scenarios im happy to explain the principles
reading kits in full also helps
theres this dude on yt i watch sometimes who breaks down the movelist. frenchtutor is the name iirc
ionic quiver
is your hiyuki s2
S0 na
toxic nebula
@vapid prairie is Denia c1r0 stronger than c0r0 Camellya
bc I have massive skill issue and still need Verina on the team or I die
dodging in wuwa is way harder than in nte with all the flashbang effects and lack of red eye notification 🥀
vapid prairie
<@286421542449971200> is Denia c1r0 stronger than c0r0 Camellya
Go pull more of Phrolova cons
toxic nebula
nah my c0r2 Phrolova will carry my c1r0 Denia
toxic nebula
nah it was one from her release and one from her last rerun
last nest
Wish me luck for denia. I need to win 50/50
old summit
Amy
last nest
Do you have chisa?
old summit
Gonna get her at the same time as denia
last nest
Than it's fine. Fusion burst is worse than tune break but it's whatever
old summit
Is it better than tune
For aoe at least
Isn't that the point of fusion burst
Do tune break for single target
Burst for aoe/mobbing
open copper
Finally got my Chisa.
restive dirge
nah it was one from her release and one from her last rerun
That doesnt make any sense
Why'd you pull the weapon twice
Instead of a char dupe
toxic nebula
Instead of a char dupe
it was weapon pulls from the shop not asterite
basicaly I was doing login waves before I fully quit after the last phrolova rerun
limber swan
I wish you luck with making denia work with phro
Because god knows that'll be an ordeal
scenic condor
By skipping hiyuki for denia?
depends on your account state but overall... kinda
denia is pretty useless outside of 2 teams and shes only bis for luuk really cuz break amy is stronger than fb amy
but that doesn't mean fb amy isnt strong
so if you have other users for lynae mornye then this was a fine pull
hiyuki offers a new team and access to chafe so obviously the better pick overall
scenic condor
nah my c0r2 Phrolova will carry my c1r0 Denia <:Slep:818673377371881473>
cursed ass team but phrolo is fully self sufficient so she doesn't rlly care who u give her she'll perform great. especially with some extra vertical invest
and you even refined phrolo sig instead of keeping it as a separate statstick 🤣🤣
toxic nebula
this was before Denia existed
open copper
Isn’t Break Amy bad in AoE/Whiwa?
toxic nebula
what else was I gonna use it for, dps Verina?
scenic condor
Isn’t Break Amy bad in AoE/Whiwa?
no?
toxic nebula
scenic condor
what else was I gonna use it for, dps Verina?
any future dps/subdps rectifier
cuz making it r2 is barely worth anything
toxic nebula
I dont play future impact, also I think the er on the standard one is better
thats what I put on denia for now
scenic condor
then why pull 2 weps you stupid whore
🤣
anw at least get some invest on that phrolo
and denia will look pretty ig
no other use on that team
cuz god knows her dmg is ass
toxic nebula
nah s3 Denia will carry trust me bro
toxic nebula
I just need to keep investing and the market will bend!
scenic condor
wtf
toxic nebula
scenic condor
what is even the point 🤣
s6 denia is still crap dps
and she cant even sustain field time
they took away resetting forte
so after you used it up ur done. ult and swap
she cant even get back in cuz cd gated
and her pink form doesnt do shit
TRAVESTY
toxic nebula
I havent figure the rotation yet, is she quickswap dps?
scenic condor
such a cool design wasted
toxic nebula
maybe I can squeeze in Camelya onfield for the downtime, but its gonna be sustainless
3 baddies in the team
wait what
open copper
I wonder, what characters have the shortest rotation time?
toxic nebula
😳
open copper
Shorekeeper sometimes feels obnoxiously long
toxic nebula
scenic condor
maybe I can squeeze in Camelya onfield for the downtime, but its gonna be sustai...
you can cuz denia rot is like 5seconds
and then she runs out of steam
toxic nebula
no
scenic condor
kek
toxic nebula
so I should just do verina then for buffing
scenic condor
3baddies zero synergy
scenic condor
so I should just do verina then for buffing
who r u willing to play?
gimme a list
no hags so no sanhua ig?
is yy a hag?
toxic nebula
I dont play this game Im just a tourist, all I have is denia, phrolova, verina, camellya
scenic condor
you have rover
toxic nebula
I have
scenic condor
sanhua?
toxic nebula
lemme see
scenic condor
shes free
from beginner missions
permanently
question is if ur willing to play her or too hag
shes cammys bis
so u can do cammy sanhua healer
phrolo danjin healer
and those are functional
rover can go over healer into phrolo team if ur ok with sustainless
tho honestly s3 denia might just outdps that sad cammy
if no sanhua
cammy sanhua verina is competent
toxic nebula
ye my account is.. 
@vapid prairie I got caught lacking #AbsoluteTourist
scenic condor
wont clear max tower
limber swan
Truly the endstate matrix killer lineup
scenic condor
ye my account is.. <:kleekicant:1009443853020971049>
<@286421542449971200> I g...
dear god
so any absolutely must plays u wanna build around?
toxic nebula
truly the most real tourist account
the 3 baddies for now, then rover and verina on the other side or something, 3rd team is cope atp
but ye I gotta progress first instead of worrying about that
I did try and pull Feebie for spectro mc verina but lost 🥀
scenic condor
the 3 baddies for now, then rover and verina on the other side or something, 3rd...
no
like no
tho i suppose