Wuthering Waves

[ionic quiver]

want to fix my units

[normal egret]

[ionic quiver]

this nightmare stupid shit is impossible

[normal egret]

surely not as horrible as mine brother

[ionic quiver]

i have hunted countless of nightmare and my FUCKING XY IS STILL USING BASIC TEMPEST

[normal egret]

[ionic quiver]

altho my chixia already using nightmare version

[marble sapphire]

hahaha very funny

[normal egret]

this is torture, switch that away

[marble sapphire]

Didn't realize the completion trophy was like gold trophies for every entry

At which point you should just merrily bomb everything

The number of entries suggests it also includes the mutant variants too

[ionic quiver]

🖕

[normal egret]

well, truly nightmare

[old summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242300743214698527/1343081582298402907/image0.jpg?ex=67bbf9b2&is=67baa832&hm=b890ada0ab6243c60e63b335b318b1a0aabe507a733bf57a377dfb82bea828a1&

[marble sapphire]

I would indeed be amused and perhaps a tiny bit disappointed if Carlotta skin is a palette swap...

[old summit]

uhh

didnt you play the carlotta story?

its her evil self

[unreal magnet]

It's for illustrative purposes...?

[unreal magnet]

Doesn't change the fact that it is does it

[last nest]

it's prob a free skin tbh

Changli skin looks very good, shame I don't have her lol

[vapid prairie]

It's a mod based on another gacha game

[last nest]

ohh, I was wondering why I didn't see it previosly. Still, good looking skin tbf

[vapid prairie]

I mean Kuro has cooked with every Changli outfit in collabs

[last nest]

also I am afraid to mod this game caue technicaly it's against TOS

[marble sapphire]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1iw6yyv/cantarella_can_swim_infinitely_via_jinhsi_leaks/ funny how this is mainly a cool thing since flight/gondola is faster. Much like how Shorekeeper isnt actually faster than usual traversal options

...meanwhile

[weak jay]

ping souine

more reason to pull her

[last nest]

Relevant for exploration outside of Rinascita

[marble sapphire]

i actually dont know of that many water heavy places in Jinzhou or Black Shores

[last nest]

Future will prob have some

[vapid prairie]

Montelli superior since Carlotta reduces Flight stamina usage

[marble sapphire]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1iw6zof/in_korea_racing_event_became_whole_new_level/ that's kind of brilliantly dirty

[open copper]

Meta-gaming.

Fuck, this shit will spread.

[marble sapphire]

theres really no point especially if you have gotten the 3 first place mission

[marble sapphire]

hmmmmm

is New Federation gonna be the high tech looking nation?

contrasting both Rinascita and Jinzhou which are tech mixed with tradition

the PGR collab in the new nation maybe?

[open copper]

Sounds likely.

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1iwi9ze/via_tieba_30_info/ whenever FF7 gets mentioned "Let the Battles Begin" often starts up in my mind

[ionic quiver]

would be great plot

i can finally say sephiroth isnt wrong

[open copper]

Huanglong six other cities: I am forgotten …

[last nest]

We could return to them in 2.5-2.8

But hopefully not

[marble sapphire]

theres a possible interesting plot if the other Huanglong cities are like low-key hostile about Jinzhou being the favored one or something

despite being the youngest and most frontier of them all

oh yeeeees

4 out of 5

better than my current one too

[old summit]

i have to farm 1 costs again

kill me

[ionic quiver]

btw @scenic condor wdyt about midnight veil rococo for whimpering mode?

i was thinking about this when im on my toilet throne

since the whimpering buff is sufficient for cam to 1 shot waves

why not midnight to give rococo entra 1 instance of damage to 1 shot wave with 480% havoc damage

[scenic condor]

definitely can work

it is her best build afterall

[ionic quiver]

also why tf i think cantarella using empryrean deream set

[old summit]

didnt you say moonlit was the ebst set of roccoco?

best*

[scenic condor]

no. i said theres not much reason to farm her new set cause the difference is minimal for cam supp purposes

but if you wanna lean into her personal damage ofc go for it

[old summit]

kill me

off by 1 percent

with a new 1 cost I got

the old one got me to 79.7

but I had slightly worse lines on it

[marble sapphire]

....uh, thats not gonna be something you notice

[old summit]

well

this is the one I just got on her

and this is the one that she used to have

I am considering this piece though, the issue is no double crit

dunno if I should sacc this or use it

on like maybe rover

if not on phoebe

[vocal ginkgo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1ix2ape/gamelook_kuro_income_up_243_and_an_overlook_of/

winning waves

[last nest]

They need to nail 3.0 but overall the future of the game looks bright

[zealous grove]

Finally got Our Light

[ionic quiver]

yikes villain vibe

[marble sapphire]

she can be my villain

[unreal magnet]

Your light, i don't have her

[vocal ginkgo]

gimme jellyfish woman

[ionic quiver]

1 more month

we eaten by jellyfish

[weak jay]

🤝

[normal egret]

[weak jay]

arcuel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/524772653308051496.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[zealous grove]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-anime-suzuran-waving-gif-14688246219749682272

[old summit]

I hope my phoebe doesnt need ER

in a phoebe srover verina team

[marble sapphire]

She doesnt

[old summit]

good because she has 0

my phoebe team is almost done

I just need the 2 3 costs echoes for srover

i dont know if I need both of them to get double crit though

this is what she has currently

I also hope skills at level 7 are high enough

[vapid prairie]

I mean there's people who solo ToA with level 6 skills only

[old summit]

Im not talking about the easy floors

Talking about for the middle tower and last floors on sides

[vapid prairie]

Ofc they do the last floors otherwise what's the point of the self-imposed challenge

[old summit]

also

rip

theres no online map

with 2.0+ stuff in it

[vapid prairie]

https://fixupx.com/Are_A_R/status/1893879947971772787

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1ixp70x/aero_rover_resonance_chain_via_wuthering_waves/ sure is the age of the hybrids...

[scenic condor]

no free crit

wow

first mc to not have innate crit boost somewhere

[old summit]

spectro rover doesnt have passive crit either

unless your counting the one you get from dupes

[scenic condor]

i am

i commented this on the post about dupes xd

[radiant fox]

I've been on off and just casual play through all wuwa content... So there's no secondary prevalent damage type other than critting in this game right? Like neighbors DoT, elemental reaction, other damage types right?

[scenic condor]

nothing

theres only raw numbers

no reactions

[radiant fox]

So just critfest?

[scenic condor]

yes

for now

[radiant fox]

In hindsight that makes it a little bit more easier to build, but won't that become bland soon enough?

[unreal magnet]

Nah, the interesting part is actually fighting

Having the way you can fight be restricted isn't that fun

And i argue that we're already taking steps into that direction with frazzle

Since SRover is literally chained to Phoebe

[ionic quiver]

2.2 we start on element debuff style

but we still on crit style

in the future probably this will get interesting

[last nest]

In the future more options will be available to phoebe

Like aero rover to convert frazzle into wind debuff

[ionic quiver]

still thinking whethere aero rover will work with jiyan

like jiyan mortefi Arover

since Arover reduce alot of aero resistance

and he can heal alot

[normal egret]

heal is kindda, meh, never the necessary thing, we either die or reset. the aero resist however, is only great when r5, from that wep. with that also we cant be sure how soon we can max it out. gonna be honest, unless u need to free up that shorekeeper spot or have no shorekeeper, otherwise…. almost irrelevant atm imo.

[ionic quiver]

but from what i see on Arover dupes

those are actually decent

but Crit fishing gonna be a problem

since weap 2nd stats are ER

i imagine something like heal set Crit Aero Aero atk atk set

[normal egret]

yea but arover also has some healing innate and horrible multipliers on some part

[ionic quiver]

the multiplier imo fix on dupes

iirc theres 1 skill that has total of 1270% damage

i forgot which one

chain combo i think

[normal egret]

the only amazing thing i see from the kit is the DoT conversion for future uses

[ionic quiver]

lets see the final product

also the new echo set tailor for Arover

which further improve the aero resist debuff

[normal egret]

prolly forte or something, im pretty sure the lib was more focused on healing

being flashy aside, i sure hope arover wont take as much field time

[ionic quiver]

its quickswap for sure

alot of Arover action are swapable from what i see

i would be happy if aero rover being good but high ceiling like changli

[weak jay]

souine and arcuel

[ionic quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-reaction-me-too-yes-acknowledge-me-gif-27117775

[weak jay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jump-eat-happy-cute-gif-11538597

[normal egret]

i wouldnt sweat too much on trying to fix arover with older units, but definitely excited to see the future units that will be working with arover.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/524772653308051496.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[ionic quiver]

i actually like it better if old unit can function with Arover

like Rover being the center of all unit , old and future

would be fucking nice

[weak jay]

||kafka ||

[normal egret]

lets get ur aalto out from all that dust

[ionic quiver]

lets get calcharo out

man is 5*

acting like 3*

lke glacio rover can buff attack speed on active character

we still going to use xiang li yao

[weak jay]

for souine as he simp for her

[normal egret]

[ionic quiver]

its fine i have 400 reserve for cantarella

and shit tons of rectifier mats

[normal egret]

simp? guy would change his family name in a heartbeat

[ionic quiver]

i will reunite rinascita under montelli and fisalia banner

fuck the order

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/lemon_mango1/status/1894366922323759394

[last nest]

rGachagaming "Wuwa litteraly a clone of genshin they stolle everything". Also rGachagaming "Wuwa open world is borring and empty unlike the best game ever that is Genshin impact"

Also apperently the only reason Wuwa has skip dialogue button is cause the story is so bad. As we know only games with shit story like Arknights, FGO, Limbus, Counterside and Hi3 have a skip button.

[open copper]

FGO story honestly isn’t that good, anyway, it’s more that the bar is low.

[last nest]

I would say it has good moments but a lot of inbetween isn't great. Still better than Genshin tho

[open copper]

I’ve been told that when Mihoyo added the skip button in Hi3, engagement went down.
Skip button never eva again on a Mihoyo game

[last nest]

When did they add it?

[marble sapphire]

says who

[last nest]

Cause hi3 in general kind of fallen off after they did the relaunch thingy

[open copper]

It’s apparently a rumor on 4chan. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t true, they can very easily just add it to their games.

[marble sapphire]

a rumor, with no hard evidence or data to back it up....

[last nest]

but really it's so funny see people cry about paimon and than defend the no skip button in the same breath. Just absolute tribilism of the brain

[marble sapphire]

for dumb shit i see in 4chan sometimes is one notorious crazy person who keeps screaming about stuff that isnt romance pandering to the player and keeps bringing up how FGO disappointed him(using examples that are completely false with proof)

at least people learn to ignore that cuckoo bird

[ionic quiver]

which part of FGO story wasnt good

also skipping story isnt necessarily about bad story

its for people that only want the combat side of the game

great logic from R/gachagaming when they said this but want a skip button for aranara quest

👍

and all side quest story

imagine only reading main quest story but doesnt want to do side quest and blame for lore plothole

👍

[marble sapphire]

for what i am talking about uh, its mainly some crazy guy who you should never ever take seriously or listen to

[ionic quiver]

kazari didnt disappeared to let these incels skip story

[ionic quiver]

agreed

[marble sapphire]

i am not even gonna bother explaining because really theres no point and you'd likely never meet them anyway. And thats good because the person is a true solipsist

[last nest]

Early fgo story

[ionic quiver]

looking back to story , all early game story wasnt that good, yes genshin was disaster

the only difference is FGO need 4 singularity to correct themselves

[open copper]

Tunguska and everything surrounding Koyanskaya was also pretty awful.

[vapid prairie]

https://x.com/cartethyiawuwa/status/1894347443245809902

daily cartethyia !! (@cartethyiawuwa) on X

X · Feb 25, 2025, 11:23 AM

@weak jay Next 5* pistol user
https://x.com/Jinhsi_M/status/1894311497091957143

今汐名言bot (@Jinhsi_M) on X

近づくなっつってんだろ

X · Feb 25, 2025, 9:00 AM

[ionic quiver]

@vapid prairie okay i found out the calcharo meta

this is insane

only calcharo can do this

and its massive

[normal egret]

finally u can undust him

6* calcharo

[ionic quiver]

no u use him for the running event

the tallest model

run the fastest

[old summit]

what about squirrel girl?

[marble sapphire]

she doesnt get her speed boost in event

[ionic quiver]

shes a little shorter than calc

but yu get it

can still be used

[weak jay]

this is for loli lovers like @zealous grove

[old summit]

question

what rewards do these give?

[marble sapphire]

uh, astrites, goodies, etc

[old summit]

i just need to know if tuners are in them

if not then I dont care at this moment

[ionic quiver]

genuine question

how can u run out of tuners

im on 2000+

i never do anything specific like farming for tuners

[old summit]

by having bad luck

im currently forced to have these 2 3 costs

[ionic quiver]

no no

[old summit]

on srover

[ionic quiver]

im also tuning echoes

but i never had it under 2000

[old summit]

well

[ionic quiver]

in fact i tune 3 sets for cantarella atm

and i still have 2000+

[old summit]

if it makes sense

I still havent done like

80% of the overworld stuff in huanglong

like the battle challenges n stuff

[open copper]

Do you ever farm the Tacet Fields?

[ionic quiver]

.....

[old summit]

yes

[ionic quiver]

i am honestly out of words

[open copper]

Running out of the tuners sounds wild. Are you wasting them?

[old summit]

no, just that much bad luck

[ionic quiver]

it doenst make sense at all tbh

how are ur credits holding

[open copper]

I follow the rule “Just tune the first 2 stats to see if it’s worthy.”

[ionic quiver]

if u doing echo 24/7

nah fuck that rule

that rule sucks

0->25 tune

both yield the same result

[old summit]

at first for the first like

6 months of the game

I was doing 0 -> 25

[ionic quiver]

most of the credits in game were from overworld

if u didnt explore

[old summit]

but then after I stopped and was doing 0 -> 15

[ionic quiver]

how do u have credits without doing credit runs

[old summit]

until I get at least 1 crit roll

[weak jay]

souine

https://tenor.com/view/bugcat-capoo-bugcat-capoo-hi-greeting-gif-16357365

[ionic quiver]

0->25 fastest and greatest way

[ionic quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-reaction-me-too-yes-acknowledge-me-gif-27117775

[old summit]

as for credits

I ran out of credits multiple times

atm I have 1000000

[old summit]

btw

[ionic quiver]

believe me exploring rinascita give u 2m+ credits

[old summit]

speaking of credits

[ionic quiver]

0->25 btw

[old summit]

how many credits is it again

to level a skill from

7 to 10?

[ionic quiver]

idk

[weak jay]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[ionic quiver]

never count

had 4.5M credits and dk how i have that evne tho i build 2 char in 2.0

[normal egret]

sorry Souine, i’m just working on too many characters

[ionic quiver]

and both of them had level 10 skills on all traces

ye im bored

and 2 limited weapon as well

yeah im actually too bored after finished exploring

[old summit]

exploring in what sense?

[ionic quiver]

100% everything

[old summit]

Because Im pretty much almost done with that

[ionic quiver]

great map

thats not done

[normal egret]

sorry bossman

[ionic quiver]

gold chest give too many credits in this game

[normal egret]

[weak jay]

i bet sekka slacking

[ionic quiver]

also 20 tuners gold iirc

[normal egret]

slacking after rococo

[ionic quiver]

i already got all those

[old summit]

literally Im just missing the three fratellis challenge stuff

[ionic quiver]

damn lootmapper OP

[old summit]

besides side quests

[ionic quiver]

i think people who actually complaint about tuners in reddit or here actually have problem

[old summit]

heres my hualong

[ionic quiver]

like in what way u have 0 tuners

i have like 2000+

[normal egret]

man stop talking bout me

[old summit]

Because I build all my characters?

[ionic quiver]

alright

scientific approach

how tf u getting 0

when i have mine 2000+

and clear all end game content

[old summit]

because i build all my chars

[ionic quiver]

thats not the proper answer

i build char as well

so if both people did the same thing

how can one have 2000+ and the other 0

[weak jay]

arcuel we found the guy

[ionic quiver]

like i can give u ss of my tuners after work

just to be clear

u guys only need 25 tuners for 5 tunes right?

[normal egret]

no man

[ionic quiver]

just to be clear mine is not developer account or something

[normal egret]

it takes about

800+ i think

[ionic quiver]

developer account on me

[normal egret]

and its not even done

[ionic quiver]

IM PULLING FIBI WITHING 10 NOW

[normal egret]

maybe it depends define “ done “ or “ built “

[weak jay]

👮🏻

[normal egret]

but mine mostly sucks

[ionic quiver]

mine were built

i cant replace any of my carlotta pieces now

[normal egret]

i still can

that means mine sucks right

[ionic quiver]

if i replace it must be BiS like CR CD max value + flat atk to 60

[normal egret]

[ionic quiver]

depends tbh

[normal egret]

its like 2/5

[ionic quiver]

also the 1 cost echo both of em has CR CD atk atk% line

so im not changing that

[normal egret]

i wouldnt take it but its a placeholder hanging onto its life

[ionic quiver]

the only way i can change those when the 5th one bring out res skill

but thats like what, less than 1.33% to bring out the res skill?

[normal egret]

idk man, what if its only 6.9%

[ionic quiver]

damn great number

[normal egret]

opps i mean res skill 6.9%

lmao

[ionic quiver]

altho im still looking for rococo pieces

for midnight veil

and cantarella being MC, Midnight and ED set

so thats how i questioned the 0 tuners case

[normal egret]

prolly doing the 4/5 or 5/5 route

its crazy

[ionic quiver]

that piece that i send

was my possible yinlin Ed set

but i decide it for cantarella for a while

[old summit]

@ionic quiver these are the type of stuff in huanlong that I still havent done

[ionic quiver]

but idk if cantarella really needed atk

[ionic quiver]

gold chest give u 20 gold tuners iirc

[normal egret]

would

[old summit]

but right now I have like 400 tuners, I was farming them last night

[ionic quiver]

i actually baffled with 0 tuners case really

like really really baffled

[old summit]

but I have no fucking echoes because the echoes I had gave me shit stats the first 2 lines and then when I get 1 crit line, they refuse to give me the other crit line

[normal egret]

Souine have u used up ur waveplates?

i mean like the recharger whatever

idr the name in en

[ionic quiver]

the cubes box that give 60?

[old summit]

I feel like your just that lucky in your rolls

[normal egret]

ye

[ionic quiver]

i have like 35-40 i think

[old summit]

people on average

[normal egret]

dammit

[ionic quiver]

i just wasted 20+ echoes lsat night

[old summit]

run out of tuners

[ionic quiver]

0-> 25

bad tunes

feed it to others

[normal egret]

i think its 120+ for me

[ionic quiver]

return 15 tuners add 8 gold echo to 25 for another

tunes again

dogshit again feed again

[old summit]

I was 100ish for me

[ionic quiver]

ye i did thta 20+ lsat night

[ionic quiver]

also my reserve is max 480

[normal egret]

damn wth

since when were u inactive smh

[ionic quiver]

and i did everything daily

not inactive

[old summit]

see, like I said

[ionic quiver]

the double tacet drop

[old summit]

maybe suoine

[ionic quiver]

i only do 3 times

[old summit]

is the outlier

not me

[ionic quiver]

daily it

[normal egret]

[ionic quiver]

60 left on energy

leave it

[normal egret]

at this rate u could just drain it

[ionic quiver]

just to save if cantarella using new sets or w.e

[normal egret]

[ionic quiver]

i learnt from HSR man

i reserve 300 on HSR

good ideas tbh

when SU give u 500 pts for daily

the dogshit genshin can just rot when i have 150 resin

[normal egret]

ye sure but u are maxed out atm arent u

[ionic quiver]

my characters?

not yet

as i said rococo midnight veil echo

and cantarella 3 sets

[normal egret]

i mean the backup waveplates

[ionic quiver]

yeah maxed 480

i drain 60 each day

so i actually play more

and like 7 days before patches

i just let it overflow to 480 back

just to be safe

altho theres 0 reason for me to do that when i have like 40 solvent

most of the time do be like that, but w.e i tune echo daily and fucking piece of shit ED doesnt give me 3 cost that actually usable

and i still looking for nightmare memphis

[old summit]

also I havent done the last 2 difficulties

of all the tatical holograms

no but seriously

how much credits is leveling a skil from 7 to 10

need to know if I have enough to do that 6 times

I'll start doing all the overworld stuff after I finish srover

echo set

because I dont know if Im gonna build brant after I get him

because the fusion team wont be complete until lupa right?

[old summit]

bro kill me

spent 16 waveplates

and farmed 3 costs

yesterday and today

no double crit

[unreal magnet]

So?

I'm expecting one double crit in 30 echoes

[old summit]

Ive done like

60

[unreal magnet]

Oh well, it happens

[old summit]

it already hard enough that I need to get a spectro drop with the frazzle set

when I finally get a double crit

[old summit]

do I use it to replace my crit rate echo

[ionic quiver]

i ran out of the exp tube alot tho

[old summit]

or crit damage echo

?

[ionic quiver]

here all my 25 placeholder

how can yall emptied the tuner

all tuned

this is what yall wasted right?

to be sure im not on developer account

[weak jay]

give me

[ionic quiver]

no

[weak jay]

lamia, lorelei, cantarella, fish

[unreal magnet]

The first 3 don't exactly keep you fed

[ionic quiver]

3rd one keep me sane

[normal egret]

surely its the devs account Susge

[unreal magnet]

I have more

[ionic quiver]

surely

i really struggle with exp tube

never more than 60

[normal egret]

yall prolly have more on something anyway, im just posting to show the differences i have among them

[ionic quiver]

lets trade

1000 gold tuners for ur 300 gold exp

i can finally make my echo eat each other

[normal egret]

[ionic quiver]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1iyxt21/we_gathered_the_smartest_people_in_wuwa_to_make_a/

@scenic condor this lineup is insane

ofc maygi bringing the sheet

[marble sapphire]

i dont know if anybody needs to hear it but...do your daily fishing at least since the rewards shop for the event refreshes weekly like that weekly IR thing i do think its worth it for hoarding a lot of mats

[unreal magnet]

I was present when they made it

It was not a very pleasant place to be present at

[ionic quiver]

pretty much show how prydwen is naive

been saying this, a SINGLE tier list made with 2 sides of perspective is bad

[marble sapphire]

hm?

from the arguments or comments?

[ionic quiver]

for casual player this is acceptable

now i want them to hold meeting agai and talk about wiwa mode list

see how mortefi is high again

[marble sapphire]

fast rotation + heavy attack buffer + Jiyan BiS?

[ionic quiver]

jiyan mortefi has been good in wiwa because of how the mode work + how the mob spawn

same with fibi + mortefi

the high tier level list also decent enough to use it as benchmark but i still think rococo should be higher a bit

[unreal magnet]

Their mic is aweful

@marble sapphire

[marble sapphire]

quick swap...

• Jinhsi's extremely simple and fast rotation nuclear bomb

[ionic quiver]

precisely why i really think that we should have multiple list

like HSR has 3 list for 3 modes

for wuwa we need 3 as well, casual, high level player and wiwa mode

altho u can lump high level player tier into wiwa mode

and it work fine but i still think that wiwa should be look into now

[unreal magnet]

Definitely not

[vapid prairie]

The real casual tier list is an exploration tier list

[marble sapphire]

that one is like, if you are using even a decent build + do your levels, anything goes

[unreal magnet]

Also i love the comment about how putting changli and mortefi into the same tear killed maygi

Because that actually happened

[ionic quiver]

i actually want maygi to make a video about that and show the sheet + gameplay again with refined knowledge now

and if maygi actually agreed to the opinion she reject then we are on a good CC train now that actually take critism and we can go long way

[old summit]

I think their nikke list is good though?

[ionic quiver]

dk much about nikke

but almost all of their other games list are dogshit

now they updated wuwa list with 2 modes now

all i can say is i respect their decision on yangyang

[old summit]

Feels like they are concentrated on nikke based on what I seen, like that's where they put in the most effort

[marble sapphire]

Yangyang seems to be the go-to Moonlit Clouds user in character trials

[ionic quiver]

time to look at the log

[marble sapphire]

her outro is Restore 4 Resonance Energy per second for 5s for the incoming Resonator. so in a way anybody can use that

[ionic quiver]

saintonas 💀

change this we are fine now

has someone perfected fibi rotation with mortefi on youtube?

[vapid prairie]

Nah. Drop Shorekeeper a tier so Cantarella will be T0 day 1

[ionic quiver]

💀 bro trying to start war

[vapid prairie]

What role is Aerover shaping up to be anyway?

[ionic quiver]

dk

pretty much cant assume now

[versed solar]

why the bland 4 star girl is t0.5

[ionic quiver]

new mode

great for AOE

[weak jay]

souine

https://tenor.com/view/capoo-waiting-sitting-rocking-bugcat-gif-17392479470332776134

[ionic quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-reaction-me-too-yes-acknowledge-me-gif-27117775

[scenic condor]

PRYDWEN

this tier list got automatically clapped for me

tho maygi

yea might have some merit then

i just cant with prydwen

[last nest]

Don't care what the tier list says. I love yinlin

[scenic condor]

it's not a competitive game

play who u like

as long as they clear

it's fine

and even calculator clears

so

yinlin is not bad at all

[old summit]

hey guys

does phoebe use her normal attacks at all in her rotation?

trying to figure out if leveling her normal attack is worth atm

past 5

also

@scenic condor how do I use maygi's sheet

I dont know where to go to a specific rotation

nvm got it to work

[marble sapphire]

its her primary source of damage...

[old summit]

???

legit

because on prydwen

says level it last

[weak jay]

👀

you see

prydwen is ...

[old summit]

because like there are instances where basic attack isnt actually used

when using basic attacks

like XY's basic attacks during his lib

arent actually his basic attacks

and so the basic attack tree has no influence

[scenic condor]

theres a guide for it

save a copy, go to scripts, run what u need

done

[old summit]

yeah it involved making a copy and doing scripts

[scenic condor]

yep

it's pretty simple

[old summit]

didnt want to do that, but had no choice

but yeah

also

ariel

since your here

for srover

If I have 4/5 echoes with double crit

but one slot has single (for now)

do I want rate on it

or dmg on it

[scenic condor]

see your total spread

and try to upkeep 1:2

i think smc can easily cap crit

65 on sheet is all you need

[old summit]

my phoebe cant cap crit unfortunately

99% total

[scenic condor]

so if you have 65 crit on smc

dont get any more

just go cdmg

[old summit]

i dont

if I use the uhh

[scenic condor]

keep on working

[old summit]

c dmg echo

[scenic condor]

the what

[old summit]

srover has 50% from echoes

[scenic condor]

???

im not following

[old summit]

As I said

[scenic condor]

u should be using radiance set

[old summit]

I have 4 out of the 5 echoes

with double crit lines

[scenic condor]

so you will end up with a total of 35 free crit

[old summit]

but the 5th echo

does not have double crit

only 1 crit

[scenic condor]

keep on grinding

[old summit]

and I have a choice

of a crit rate one

[scenic condor]

whats your total cv now

[old summit]

and a crit dmg one

oh man

lemme turn the game back on

[ionic quiver]

imagine using prydwen

when they admitly lowering changli because of skill issue and then later on raise her again because of the community level skill to quickswap with her

neat

[old summit]

yes but this is about skill leveling prio

not calculations or tiers

[ionic quiver]

i dont use that shit anw

all 10

simple

[old summit]

this is with the crit dmg echo

[ionic quiver]

perks of having 4m credits

[old summit]

this is with the crit rate echo

[vapid prairie]

All I gotta say is that I'm not willing to farm this POS again

[scenic condor]

keep this

[old summit]

because of the one shot attack?

[old summit]

so trash the crit rate one?

[vapid prairie]

Just farming nightmare echoes in general regardless of how annoying the boss is

[scenic condor]

the 55 crit one

you are already at 90 total crit with that

meaning ur 90/270

so ur still below the 1:2 ratio

cause that should be 280

[old summit]

also

this is my current phoebe

[scenic condor]

your final on-sheet aim should be 65/300

[scenic condor]

this is fine

0.9% crit missing but it's fine

atk is dreadfully low tho

but issokay

are u using sig or sm

[old summit]

It cant be helped, I only got one attack line

yeah sig

[scenic condor]

yeah then that atk is too low

but it's fine

you'll clear easily

[old summit]

the atk is made up

by this instead

[scenic condor]

not really

atk is more important

cause her damage is very split

so individual dmg boosts are less effective overall

this is the reason why her sig is bait

[old summit]

yeah but like I said, i couldnt get better lines

[scenic condor]

and sm is only ONE percent behind

cause sm gives a fuckton of atk

[old summit]

I had to take what I could get from any double crit line

[scenic condor]

which she values more

[marble sapphire]

Meanwhile

[scenic condor]

thats fine. as i said. this will clear. dw abou tit

[old summit]

btw

so like I asked earlier

do I level phoebe basic attack?

or is her basic attack replaced with another version

like XY's

i usually dont level anyone's intro skill except SK's past 5

but I also dont level some people's basic

also, do I still continue to farm 3 costs for a double crit for srover

or just stick with what i have and move on

[marble sapphire]

only the enhanced heavy attacks are affected by Forte Circuit

shes gonna be using basic plenty of times

[old summit]

mmm, so I guess I gotta level her basic attack then as well

is there a reason prydwen said level srover intro before her skill?

or is that also prydwen being prydwen

[old summit]

so this is supposed to replace sk for cam team and verina for jinshi team right?

or is she purely a chuuni team?

[last nest]

I don't think she makes it in Cam team

I think she is replacing Zhezhi in Jinhsi team

And for Phrolova in the future yes

[old summit]

i hope shes a good replacement for jinhsi team

because I have no reason to roll for phrolova

unless she brings in totally new havoc gameplay

like how phoebe did for spectro

[last nest]

Phrolova will prob have coord attack?

I wouldn't worry about diffrent gameplay. Kuro cooked with that in pgr

[scenic condor]

guys pls

have you learned nothing

from brant

canta is literally the same thing

shes not a healer replacement

shes a subdps replacement with healing on the side

shes not gonna be good for cam team

shes gonna be for a future havoc unit

which is 99% phrolova

who will most likely do havoc skill dmg so canta will be her bis subdps

you can however replace verina in jinshi team with her probably

and do jinshi zhezhi canta

cause canta will stack coord faster than verina

[last nest]

She helps me justify my skipping of Zhezhi

[scenic condor]

yes

[last nest]

the issue with this is that she doesn't heal that much no?

[scenic condor]

so?

learn to dodge

and you dont need healing

the point of "healers" was never the actual healing

just to proc the healer set

and i doubt she'll be carrying that anyway

her personal damage will probably make up for it

[last nest]

Some of the newer bossess are hard to dodge

I can't dodge Lorelai for example which isn't a problem atm but when we get hollogram...

[scenic condor]

if you get caught up a big attack you die anyway with or without heals

especially hologram

lol

healing wont save you there

cause those attacks are meant to be dodged not cheesed with heals

[last nest]

Where is our Zhongli in this trying times

[unreal magnet]

Really just depends on how fast she can build concerto

And her coord uptime

[open copper]

I would rather we never have a Zl.

Make sustain too op and you end-up turning the bosses into damage sponges to compensate.

[last nest]

yes ZL was a mistake which(one that Dehya paid for)

[open copper]

Healing is a already a very strong utility, very underrated.

Healing getting too strong has unintentionally fucked-up a lot of games.

[ionic quiver]

the heal number isnt amazing

but its still heal

heal set

[radiant fox]

Does Zhongli c6 helps with Furina?

[scenic condor]

warlord is arguing that we need the good heal numbers cause skill issue

i do feel like kuro is cooking mono element teams with universal healers potentially being removed

[ionic quiver]

the only heal that matter is heal set

[vapid prairie]

https://x.com/anivizz/status/1894963224392671376

Cipher 🐦‍🔥 (@anivizz) on X

Don’t forget the Fisalias conducted messed up echo experiments in the Towers at Thessaleo Fells

Cantarella possibly involved in the attacks on the Montelli headquarters seen in Carlotta’s quest

Master in poison

She’s hot but DO NOT trust her
(I know some of you won’t listen)

X · Feb 27, 2025, 4:10 AM

[ionic quiver]

Thank god i can't read

[weak jay]

souine

https://tenor.com/view/capoo-waiting-sitting-rocking-bugcat-gif-17392479470332776134

[ionic quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-reaction-me-too-yes-acknowledge-me-gif-27117775

[normal egret]

instructions unclear, i'm part of the Fisalia family now

[ionic quiver]

the head is nice

[last nest]

I can fix her(c)

[last nest]

Glad to see we a are going pgr route over genshin route on more endgame

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1895685425957896539

[old summit]

theres no point in building brant until lupa releases right?

[frigid gyro]

we dont even fully know if lupa goes with brant

[old summit]

also

is it safe to say

that the current spectro gear my srover has

will ultimately be transferred to zani?

and srover will probably just use heal gear?

[vapid prairie]

Probably. The game highlights Lib substat for Srover right? Zani seems to be Lib

[old summit]

my srover gear has no lib lines

[vapid prairie]

If it's the generic double crit + ATK stuff then ofc it's transferrable

[old summit]

i might have to figure out my own rotation for phoebe team

since Im using verina and not sk

i get phoebe's rotation

but i dont get rover's

or how do I know Im at 120 prayer for phoebe

by the time I intro to her

[old summit]

yeah need someone here to tell me how to use srover in my phoebe team

[radiant fox]

Can brant work with Changli?

[old summit]

yes

the thoery is

Brant buffs changli

changli buffs lupa

lupa buffs brant

[radiant fox]

Lupa who?

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-dance-wolf-dance-wolf-danceing-danceing-wolf-gif-7632852274072373483

this

[radiant fox]

Huh

[versed solar]

lupa means wolf :D

female wolf

[radiant fox]

Looks skyrim-y... Or Oblivion-y chara

Will it be new? Coming with Brant banner?

[old summit]

no

like 2.4

or 5

[radiant fox]

Is Brant even on now? I'm still updating

[versed solar]

no

[marble sapphire]

less than a week

his marketing started

[scenic condor]

depends on your account

[scenic condor]

yes but based on maygi's current tc it wont be too good

their rotations dont are very clunk

and outros fall off so

kinda bad too

brant as a whole is looking like a skip now

with the air counter change

cause now you just cant dodge in the air at all

and well....try to play like that if u have to avoid something and u cant

it's all very sad

truly

he got calcharod essentially

with this hard combo nerf

[unreal magnet]

We'll have to see once more theorycrafters and combat specialists get their hands on him but i tend to agree that it's not looking that bright for him rn

[scenic condor]

and this is in addition to his already existing high build difficulty

[scenic condor]

dont think anybody can cook it differently

[open copper]

On the other hand, he is a big sequence/weapon bait, so might as well try to get his things earlier

[scenic condor]

as long as they dont change back his air counter

[radiant fox]

I saw a comment that says his change was when we already got his trial on some quest?

[scenic condor]

he will be trash

[scenic condor]

yes

fishing event was alraedy out

the change happened on feb 22

[radiant fox]

That's just nasty...

[scenic condor]

i just dont understand why gimp him

[radiant fox]

Why would they do that

[scenic condor]

male hate

idk

but xy turned out stellar

so cant even be that

[unreal magnet]

What did they change?

[radiant fox]

Ideology beating greed... Who knew

If they made him with great kit = more sales... So what's wrong with that?

[open copper]

My theory is that kuro is experimenting if they can sell a incomplete character.

[radiant fox]

Are they afraid the gooners for females chara will come after them making a male chara more OP?

[scenic condor]

previously when brant dodged midair he did not proc a dodge counter so he could just continue his combo. but they added dodge counter now so if you dodge, you will autocounter and then the counter puts you on the ground which will end your rotation. so if you have to dodge even once while doing it you lose out on your big forte skill and you have to start all over 😄

[scenic condor]

none of his dupes solve this issue

you can have him s6

and he'd be just as trash

if you have to dodge

[open copper]

Yikes

[scenic condor]

his entire combo chain is midair

so dodge once and ur done

calcharo all over again

[radiant fox]

Ah so maybe this was the intended version and they just forgot about it?

[unreal magnet]

Huh????

[radiant fox]

Still just as nasty tho...

[scenic condor]

yep. and camellya, jinshi, changli who all have midair counters can just continue their midair chain afterwards while brant gets grounded

[unreal magnet]

Undesired dodge counter truly is the greatest menace

Do mo workarounds exist?

[radiant fox]

Does none of his sequence have interruption guard midair so we can just not have to dodge at all?

I think Changli and Lingyang has something like that?

[scenic condor]

nope

[radiant fox]

Rip Brantt,

Was nice seeing you with your glorious open window

[scenic condor]

wait

[unreal magnet]

His S1 gives enemy freeze

[scenic condor]

he does

[last nest]

in general their isn't a lot of mid air intteraption resitence in this game

[scenic condor]

but this is not full poise

thats why i forgot about it

[last nest]

It's why Camellya gets smacked around vs a lot of Rinascita bossess

[scenic condor]

also it's not even about getting interrupted

it's avoiding oneshots

like sure interrupt resist

but if you cant dodge shit like aix laser

you just get oneshot after

and how do u dodge homing attacks?

[radiant fox]

Yeah I was thinking at the back of my mind about this one too

[unreal magnet]

He has a shield go tank some of it ig

[last nest]

By playing Jinhsi

[scenic condor]

this is just

a lot of work

idunno

if they change it back he can be great imo

his numbers are there

s2 is big

sig is huge

also just for comparison

giga sig diff

[radiant fox]

They should've included in one of his sequence increased damage resist and full interruption resist

[last nest]

he will prob be needed for Lupa team

[scenic condor]

31%

is huge

[last nest]

They are makign chars with aim for the future now

[scenic condor]

no other sig has this much diff

[last nest]

Same as Roccia apperently being a lot better with Phrolova

[scenic condor]

he will also see relevance for carlotta team potentiall in babel tower

where some stages ban certain weps to be used in the same team

pistol and rectifier cant be used on the same team for example

so he'd be great for carlotta

oh yes i forgot to send you guys the babel tower leaks

Regarding the Tower of Babel (Virtual Crisis: Prototype Trials).

I have only played the first Inferno Rider stage, so here is my immediate conclusion:

Tower of Babel tests not just your mechanical skill, but also your roster of well-built characters. However, it doesn't have particularly high stat requirements (don't need to be min-maxed). Since there's no time limit, as long as you avoid making mistakes, you can take your time to grind it.

For difficulty 20 and below, it's fairly manageable.
For difficulty 32, 90-99% of players won't be able to clear it. At least, judging from the Inferno Rider stage.

You either:
1. Are a whale with S6 Characters, take a support and nuke both waves instantly in the beginning.
2. Run two supports with healing capabilities, and carefully manage your rotations overtime.

Rotations are far more important in Tower of Babel than in Tower of Adversity because the arena continuously burns hp, making it impossible for characters to stay on-field for long. You need to swap frequently and heal to maintain your HP.


Survivability here feels better with quickswap than with on-field DPS units. HP and DEF stats actually have some value here—at least they help delay death.

Character Performance and Meta Observations:
- Cantarella and Brant excel because both have healing, take up a key role in team rotations, and deal decent damage.
Cantarella: High healing frequency—as long as she doesn't take consecutive hits, she can survive indefinitely with Shorekeeper's Liberation.
Brant: Healing + Shields for better survivability (But not viable for Inferno Rider's stage due to the fusion resistance and environmental hazards.)

Changli seems like she'd be strong in this mode (Theorycrafting), because there are so many ways for her to rotate in teams and she doesn't need to stay on-field.

A funny restriction:
One of the challenges prevent Sword, Broadblade, and Gauntlet characters from being used together with Pistol and Rectifier characters. As a result, non-Rectifier supports have massive demand, and we can expect Kuro to introduce more "Aero-Rover" and "Brant" styled healer hybrids in the future (e.g., possibly Ciaccona).

Support DPS Rectifier characters would likely have their niche as well.

The most important takeaway is that, if you don't have Shorekeeper, you're going to have a rough time.

These are just my thoughts after playing Inferno Rider's stage. I'll test the rest after work.

48 Stars in total are required to obtain a Title. (Max Stars: 96)
You can use trial characters

this mode is meant to sell the alternative healing characters

like brant

cause of the hp drain present

[last nest]

At least their isn't time limit I suppose

[scenic condor]

yeah but you will die

from the burn

[last nest]

Instructions clear, pulling for Cantarella

[radiant fox]

Introduce character with lifesteal

[last nest]

One day

[radiant fox]

Why does this somehow makes me think Danjin mains will be foaming from the mouth thinking how exciting it is beat it?

[scenic condor]

definitely

danjin will be great there

jianxin might see play too

since shes fist

can heal

and her being a slow ass bitch doesnt matter cuz no time limit

[radiant fox]

Can't wait for the blindfolded run then

[old summit]

wait

[scenic condor]

blindfolded and playing with chopsticks in mouth

[old summit]

so does that mean I dont need brant anymore?

even for future fusion team?

[radiant fox]

While using beatsabers controller

[scenic condor]

i just gave a reasoning as to why brant might be necessary still

[radiant fox]

As a heal bot? Lol

[last nest]

Lupa bis was supposdly Brant+changli

And obv you don't need Brant right now for fusion team. The best fusion team is still encore

[scenic condor]

damage is still there

[scenic condor]

tbh after i watched thru maygi malding brant calcs. brant changli looks kinda mid

brant hyper is stronger

and changli hyper is also stronger individually

changli xy ofc is still her best comp

[last nest]

Well cause we don't have Lupa yet

She is supposdly Danjin 2.0

[scenic condor]

no it's because it doesnt work

brant and changli rota desyncs

and the selling point would be the outros

which fall off cause quickswap

so theres literally no benefit there

[last nest]

The rotation would be wildly diffrent with a 3rd fusionb char who wants to stay on the field as much as possible

[scenic condor]

ye but

changli doesnt work

with characters who wanna stay on the field

cause she NEEDS a qs partner

[last nest]

Yes I am not sure about Changli.

Brant is their for a shield I think

Cause you don't want to heal much

[scenic condor]

they need to revert this counter change on brant

wtf were they even thinknig

[last nest]

It's it to late now?

[scenic condor]

no

it's not

he got changed when we was already present in the game as a trial unit

so

i see no reason why they cant change

before banner comes

and even after that

they can just fix it

call it an unintentional bug or something

[last nest]

I guess but I wouldn't count on that

inb brant doesn't sell and Kuro uses it as an exuse not to make more than 1 male per region

[scenic condor]

or not even 1 male

xd

maybe this is their goal afterall

[last nest]

No having a few males helps the game international appeal

[scenic condor]

does it

everybody sees thru it atp

most husbando lovers already left

and the rest might just leave after this