Wuthering Waves

[marble sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ok2pk0DA3s

[versed solar]

also carlotta having guns and being hyper real gameplay wise seals the deal

wuwa is the peakest

ill pull for her sig too

if i win 50/50

lol

[marble sapphire]

i have guaranteed, its rolling for Zhezhi thats 100% iffy

[versed solar]

im high pity on weap banner

so if i win 50/50 early

get weap easly

i could go for zhezhi

[rough token]

Zani is not in this patch
But damn i'm considering pulling for Carlotta+sign

But i also want Jinhsi wep

Bedge

[versed solar]

do it

https://tenor.com/view/carlotta-wuwa-carlotta-wuwa-wuwa-carlotta-wuthering-waves-gif-1730778740802013188

for her

[last nest]

her sign is very strong

I will prob pick it up on the rerun

Cause Yinlin drained me of weapon fund

[versed solar]

warlordm we beat city

[rough token]

Welp
If i'm getting the worst pull known to man
I will simply skip Jinhsi wep again
Her nuke playstyle isn't really my type

[last nest]

I was watching, it was glorius

[rough token]

I never lose 50:50 since Yinlin, so i'm pretty confident with the chara pull

[versed solar]

yes even if they are trash its still amazing now hoping the cherries lose so we keep 5th

[versed solar]

now see how you lose 50 50 after saying this

[rough token]

I will simply pull without desire
To prevent the sensor detection

[last nest]

With the new region I will have enough to hard pity carlotta if needed

[versed solar]

cope

xD

[last nest]

And than time to sve for 2.1

[rough token]

Though not getting sign won't really be a big problem for me
I'm not the super tryhard type anyway

[versed solar]

after carlotta ill save for the blondie

cause shes cute

[open copper]

So, I guess the Shield Set is for Zani.

[rough token]

I'm here for them wives
Just like the title, Gathering Wives

[last nest]

We still have at least 2 unrevealed chars from new region as well

and prob more unless we are going back to china after 2.4

[versed solar]

also carlotta has yoimiya va

and yoimiya is the only saving grace of gi

so

[rough token]

I will only go broke for real if they released technology region with actual robots in it

[versed solar]

must pull

god carlotta

[rough token]

New Federation when

[versed solar]

is perfection

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

italian, yoi va, guns , lee playstyle

[last nest]

America will be latter

[versed solar]

and hot

now just tell me their guns are made by beretta

[rough token]

Cmon kuro
Skyscrapers are boring
Show me these mobile suits

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/shinn-asuka-gundam-seed-shinn-gif-13770512591961533044

[last nest]

Not sure tho if they have robots. Black shore is supposed to be a high tech faction and their robots are kurobots

[open copper]

Mortefi profile does say that the New Federation lust for new technology was disturbing

CYBERPUNK REGION!

[rough token]

I mean robots isn't really a high bar to reach
We got Tethys System, a sentient AI
Also Fallacy looks close enough

[last nest]

Ohh for Sure I expect robots at some point. Just not sure if they are going to be mecha mooks for a new region or some ancient lost technology

[rough token]

Maybe not like gundam stuff
But things like Armored Core units could be easy

[last nest]

and who knows, if it's one universe with PGR constructs could show up

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/ac4a-armored-core-armored-core-overboost-armored-core-for-answer-armored-core-4-answer-gif-9684413165451844165

wait wrong gif

[last nest]

Cause humanity in PGR has canonic ftl flight.

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-duel-casual-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-gif-27578061

[rough token]

Or iron man type of shit
I mean XY got metal arm

[versed solar]

correct gif

[rough token]

Pls do not disappoint me New Federation scientist

[last nest]

also from the trailer I am getting the vibe that church is corrupt

So that's another point to my threnodian=sentinel theory for new region

[rough token]

I guess we're lucky that Jue is mc's old pet dragon

If that's the case

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-mobile-suit-gundam-gif-5044348

FEDERATION!?!?!

JEGAN LESSU GOO

okay sorry

[rough token]

We boutta get a region with space magic soon

[versed solar]

based

also i hope wuwa is in spring cause carnevale in winter is so cold

also how much yall wanna bet i will get triggered from all the things they got wrong about italian culture?

lol

[rough token]

MAMMA MIA

[versed solar]

and no im not talking about hawaii pizza thats tame

[last nest]

Got you cowerd friend

[versed solar]

that doesnt have effect on me

[rough token]

So what
Fried pasta?

[versed solar]

if it was banana id be raging

[rough token]

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/fujiwara-chika-kaguya-sama-love-is-war-frustrated-silent-screaming-internal-screaming-gif-24016639

deep fried fiorentina

that triggers me

such an expensive steak

like deep frying wagyu

[marble sapphire]

Beretta the company can trace their founding to 1526

[rough token]

I just read some stuff
So The Fool Troupe got a big ass turtle as their stage

[versed solar]

yeah i know

[versed solar]

based

[last nest]

Looking back at the trailer I am continusly impressed by animations they can do on the in game engine.

[versed solar]

damn

carlotta skirt is short

NO TIA

DONT BE HORNY

i need to bonk myself

[rough token]

Release your horns

[versed solar]

yeah they are so pretty and with the game running well now its even better

like even changliers animations are so smooth and good

it was cringe that it had lag spikes on a 13th gen i5 and a 4060

but now its fixed thanks

[marble sapphire]

i once tried to see Changli's skill use in slow motion just to see how the slashes form

[versed solar]

wait

nvm

i missread

i tought changli got a skin

almost came

[marble sapphire]

maybe in the future

[versed solar]

if they add one ill buy it shes my fave wuwa char

so far

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693242914414788640/1318902704596062288/RDT_20241218_1228186604758100650256471.gif

[marble sapphire]

if they add one, probably on her rerun

[rough token]

Changli skin but her 4th stack turn her into Nier after exploding

[versed solar]

changli > carlotta > encore > and my boy whom they did dirty calcharo

[rough token]

Easiest money machine for kuro

[versed solar]

im watching some highlights of the strim

carlotta finalized moveset is top

[marble sapphire]

ah right Changli skin would require more work than usual thanks to the 4 stages thing

[versed solar]

carlotta main dps right?

[marble sapphire]

yes

[versed solar]

good

some cringe humans said she was support for cummelia

[marble sapphire]

hahaha...where did you see that

[last nest]

she will rerun in 2.1 with brant for sure since he is her support

So no skins for forseeable future

[marble sapphire]

the one thats support for Camellya is Roccia

[versed solar]

reddit or yt iirc

[last nest]

Unless kuro start cranking them out like they do in pgr

[marble sapphire]

so i think somebody must have gotten confused

[versed solar]

also why tf shes called rock

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-the-rock-sus-the-rock-meme-tthe-rock-sus-meme-dwayne-johnson-gif-23805584

[marble sapphire]

i mean, we see people named Stein or Peter, now you draw the line at Roccia?

something i draw attention to, Shots Fired starts playing

[versed solar]

wait we have a peter and stein?

oof

didnt even noticed they existed

HAHAHAHA

[marble sapphire]

no, Peter and Stein are common names that both mean rock

[versed solar]

i skip story lol

ah

they do

didnt knew it

[marble sapphire]

besides, perhaps shes named after a particularly sparkly rock or something

[versed solar]

in italian roccia is used for generic rock

[versed solar]

Oh also guys if u need help pronouncing rinascita tell me ahahaha I'll help

[versed solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzLiw9oefpI&ab_channel=Rate-UpRadio

YO WTF

you can syntetize everywhere now!!!

finnally

[scenic condor]

ST focused main dps with no quickswap options

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/WW_JP_Official/status/1870650464624373914?t=ikh2QtbUQLGrfp4D44p_qw&s=19 Daisuke Kishio

[open copper]

Wait it’s Drip Marketing already?

[vapid prairie]

just VA announcements maybe. Phoebe got announced just then. Actual drip would be the new splash arts

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/WW_JP_Official/status/1870680665554911286 Kaede Hondo

also this does soft confirm those two for 2.1

[vapid prairie]

iirc that is 's VA

[marble sapphire]

correcto, though she voices fellow blond haired characters Hifumi in BA and Suzuran in Arknights, among others too

https://fixupx.com/KazahanaEdits/status/1870652504683520259
https://fixupx.com/kit_zune/status/1870681956113072180

[vapid prairie]

@ionic quiver the income math for your broke ass

[ionic quiver]

EZ EZ

WHOLE RINASCITA IS NOW DRONE ZONE

[vapid prairie]

New Jersey time

[marble sapphire]

eh what

[vapid prairie]

Lootmapper drones. I'm referencing New Jersey because they have a drone problem rn

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/WW_JP_Official/status/1870710862241239302 oh more

Hitomi Ueda

most famously known for... Gold Ship

[versed solar]

aoh gooood

i hope she screams FIREEEEEEEEEEEE

[unreal magnet]

What gold ship?

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gif-23062989

her

[vapid prairie]

https://fixupx.com/Narushioww/status/1870466268647784633

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1hjto14/it_was_a_miscalculation_on_the_astrites/ oops, they had a typo

[last nest]

180 pulls just in 2.0 allone is very nice

Maybe I can pull for Carlotte sig than

[scenic condor]

dear god

im doing IR

and the supports feel so...ass

especially at the start

like im fallingasleep doing minimal dmg

this is just horrible

[unreal magnet]

Try taoqi if you dare

[scenic condor]

i dont dare

i just wanna get this over with

sk gets a lot better with the upgrades tho

but maaaan the start was ass slow

[open copper]

Healers are always like this (in IR), since their talents aren’t normally build for DPS.

Their character upgrades in IR are hilariously busted.

[scenic condor]

yea ik

😄

but tbh verina felt annoying to play

regardless

even with full upgrade

[open copper]

Agree, constantly running out of Stamina and clunky auto-target

[scenic condor]

and i got killed by the final boss

again

the big homing lasers

what the heck is "unbound form"

for sk

isnt that the jump atk

yea fk this im just gonna go healers on the lower diff ones and run thru with dpses on the high ones

i dont have this kind of time

max hp set to 100

jesus

is this for madmen

[vapid prairie]

When she transforms into a butterfly

[scenic condor]

thats the jump attack?

or the sprint

oh it' the sprint

okay

so i should have just transformed

mb

dsjfoidjsfdasuihnfudandfas

[vapid prairie]

Heavy attack

[scenic condor]

what does the sprint count as?

[scenic condor]

no it's the jump attack

or

no yea

it's the sprint

when u go into butterfly and zoom around

ig it can be said it's the heavy

i understand

[unreal magnet]

She's still garbage even with everything

Last stage took 4 min and i just got one shot

[unreal magnet]

It's a nice challenge

[open copper]

I don’t try to farm Level 100 IR.

Too many levels makes you more vulnerable to bullshit random One-shots

I still remember getting Aix as my final IR boss. Bullshit, man.

[unreal magnet]

I'm playing max for fun

[last nest]

Why is overdrive zone so easy compared to middle tower?

Shouldn't it be harder instead logicaly?

[unreal magnet]

Overdrive is 6 stages, middle are 2

What's harder, building 3 teams or 1

[last nest]

well the fact that overdrive gives you so much more time is what makes it easier

Not that I am complaning of course I wouldn't be able to full clear it if it didn't

[unreal magnet]

It for sure is for better players. Below average players are still going to suffer

[last nest]

Just wierd you gait it behind agruably harder content

I wish rewards rested tho like monthly or something, Would be a nice additional source of income

[unreal magnet]

Juses no

The poor new players

[last nest]

I need all the pulls for 2.0

[unreal magnet]

I'm still at 100+

And we apparently get another 100 in 2.0

[last nest]

I am 68 atm. Still a lot of overworld not cleared tho

[unreal magnet]

Me too

[last nest]

By my calcs I should hit 130

By 2.0

have to skip roccia now but at least I can get both Carlotta and Phebe

and maybe a weapon if I am lucky

Not regretting pulling yinlin tho. She is so fun with XY

[unreal magnet]

I pair my XLY with rover

More efficient than pulling for a dedicated support imo

[last nest]

well, she is also support for my Jinhsi

And any future electro dps

[unreal magnet]

For her i have yuanwu

[last nest]

Not touching him and his circle gaming. Had enough of that shit in genshin already

[unreal magnet]

Would actually pull for any if you already have XLY?

[last nest]

I used mortefi with her before pulling yinlin

[last nest]

He was free so why not.

[unreal magnet]

Mortefi is really cope with jinhsi

[last nest]

Well, if they are upgrade/I really like their char

Well that''s why I am no longer using him with her

also he was S6 which helped

[unreal magnet]

Barely fills jinhsi up

[last nest]

yes you have to do extended full rotation with verina and him to fill

Which is obv dps loss. Yinlin is much smother

[unreal magnet]

I pulled jinhsi because yuanwu+verina is a very competent team

And baizhi instead of verina as alternative if verina is needed elsewhere

Efficiency

[last nest]

Now I just need to get her a 5 star weapon

[unreal magnet]

Is it really?

I'm pretty sure yinlin needs a lot of field time

[last nest]

you quickswap to keep it up

but obv zhezi is the best version

but well, i don't like zhezi

[unreal magnet]

Well i don't have her so i wouldn't know

[last nest]

I am speaking vs mortefi. yuanwu stays less than anyone on field

Cause he is there for the circle

[unreal magnet]

Yuanwu battery

How fast is your rotation with yinlin?

[last nest]

It's 15-20 seconds yinlin and verina part

Assuming your start with Yinlin and ultimate imediatly.

Here the calcs and honestly S6 moretefi is pretty on par with Yuanwu.

Also, of course, I don' have stringmaster

also yuanwu still obv the better option. This are also pre zhezhi calcs who is the best teameate for Jinhsi I am pretty sure

[ionic quiver]

@last nest overdrive buff are dumb

If u want to flex damage go there

Level mean shit when u just ignore their stats

[marble sapphire]

overdrive tower easy actually? Hmm

[ionic quiver]

yeah

when they give buff like that u cant say that shit is hard

scar are actually really weak there

and it just a matter of time that we have 3rd team anyway with rinascita

[marble sapphire]

hm...i'll do overdrive later...

if ever

maybe when i form 3rd team for real

ah screw it i just cleared ToA so why not

[ionic quiver]

if u have jinhsi zhezhi supp and XY yinlin supp

and cam san supp

those 3 are actually easy

[marble sapphire]

i would not consider that an easy requirement :<

i am indeed gonna leave it for later

back to hunting for vox sanctus for echo web event

done

[unreal magnet]

Literally the premium teams

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/__sb______/status/1870743074667905368 hmm

a bit lost on me

[unreal magnet]

How so?

[marble sapphire]

I don't play PGR that's how

[ionic quiver]

whats not premium team then?

it is quite funny that people said premium this and that

when people are trying to use optimized build

[unreal magnet]

I mean yes, it's optimized

Optimized to a point some may consider it to be "overinvested"

[ionic quiver]

not at all

if u said XY yinlin SK is optimized, jinhsi yinlin SK is optimized

what happened if u use yinlin and SK on other side

u solo jinhsi?

u try to find the other comp

[unreal magnet]

Usually the goal in gacha games is to clear the hardest content with the least ressources possible.

[ionic quiver]

who did that goal

[unreal magnet]

Literally most gachas if you are talking meta and ressource efficiency?

[ionic quiver]

what is resources in this

no

[unreal magnet]

Ressources being pulls

[ionic quiver]

if u said resources being pulls

then theres no reason that people cant clear the hardest fight in FGO 5 years ++ ago

against saber alter

[unreal magnet]

And ofc level ressources as well but those are currently in abundance

[ionic quiver]

also theres no way people can clear this genshin abyss

with the least pulls

i pull in genshin like 2-3 times

in a span of 1 patch

5x till the end

people trying to pulls what they love and use it

and use that character

[unreal magnet]

Yeah sure

[ionic quiver]

and trying to use optimized build on that character comps and everything

[unreal magnet]

Go ahead

[ionic quiver]

im not flaming those who pull for meta, completely find

[unreal magnet]

But I'm talking about efficiency as a F2P. I value that more than meta, optimization or how much i like a character

[ionic quiver]

but saying that we should use less resources, context , gacha pulls as the basis of least resources

are completely misleading

[unreal magnet]

2 limited 5* characters for one team is a pretty big waste imo

[ionic quiver]

i use jinhsi + sanhua + verina

in overdrive

[unreal magnet]

Even more so if it's 3

[ionic quiver]

clear 3*

u want proof?

1 limited

[unreal magnet]

I know it's possible

[ionic quiver]

thats what i want

and thats not even the best team

ariel even surprise at sanhua performance in jinhsi comp which make 0 sense

[unreal magnet]

I'm talking about those premium teams

[ionic quiver]

xiang liyao is free

so technically

only yinlin is limited

switch out verina

1 limited

1 free

1 standard

u can still do the same rotations

faster but less damage

because of turtle shield expired

also standard 5* has selector

also u can use rover as main in Havoc if u build enough ( this is actually the weakest havoc iirc, i might miss the math )

pairing with sanhua and verina

and clear tower

even overdrive if u have decent sanhua with ER set

and good ER points on Havoc to spam burst

[unreal magnet]

I don't get what your point is

[ionic quiver]

points being

optimized = premium

optimized mean 4* can be optimized

and being played

free units can be optimize

etc etc

[unreal magnet]

I've never doubted the description of those as being optimized

[ionic quiver]

also saying that "premium" team is the best is also wrong

also this part

XY yinlin and verina

1 free

1 limited

1 standard

u can use this and tower just fall apart

even in middle part is easy max

overdrive is easy clear

[unreal magnet]

Erase "limited" then

[ionic quiver]

sure

Havoc Cal verina

Havoc Cal Sk

Havoc Sanhua verina

[unreal magnet]

You're typing so fast my tired brain has trouble keeping up

[ionic quiver]

theres ton of team that doesnt use limited

and clear the tower comfortable each reset

but im not sugarcoating it, those units need heavy min maxing

[unreal magnet]

Why are you naming teams to me now, I'm very much confused

[ionic quiver]

listing non limited character for u

just in case u dont know

u need me to list 4* teams to clear left and right tower?

all u need is heron + turtle + 1

[unreal magnet]

Yeah i do not know what you're talking about

[ionic quiver]

chixia sanhua and baizhi is good

baizhi using heal set with turtel

snahua with Er set + heron

[unreal magnet]

I just read everything you send twice now

[ionic quiver]

and chixia with just fusion set + the free 5* guns

[unreal magnet]

And i still don't know what your point is

[ionic quiver]

....

[last nest]

You don't need 3 teams to get all the currency

[ionic quiver]

@zealous grove map leak leaked?

[ionic quiver]

is this confirm tho?

i actually lazy to try this

[last nest]

You need to finish 2 towers

[ionic quiver]

then u reset one of the towers?

[last nest]

For all asterite

[last nest]

No the 3rd tower doesn't give asterite

[ionic quiver]

because it still count as 2 towers clear right if u reset it?

[last nest]

Oh wait you mean unlocking

Yes you neeed 3 teams for that

[ionic quiver]

no no the rewards

overdrive tower has 3 sides

i clear 2 of them full

if i reset one of the towers that i cleared

and went into the unclear one

[marble sapphire]

I just did entirety of ToA today, I am just a bit tired ok

[ionic quiver]

rewards should be count as 2 towers clear right?

ariel said it would be 3 towers cleared

but i super lazy to redo it

so i just left it

[last nest]

Not sure. I just cleared 2 towers and called it a day

[marble sapphire]

if you can do 2 each, which gives you a generous time of 8:30 mins per level, you'd get all the astrites

[ionic quiver]

tried it LMFAO

[last nest]

Cause the rewards for pushing further are minisc8

[ionic quiver]

it is

but still a bonus

[marble sapphire]

...I think

[ionic quiver]

overdrive buff is insane right?

imagine my Xy damage rose from 290k into 444k

yinlin burst per hit from 9,3k to 14,5k

[last nest]

Yup. Great for flexing damage

[marble sapphire]

I might be suffering from character build issue then

or well skill level

[ionic quiver]

level disparancy

ur skill level translate into DPS lost

i found out that this game use complex damage calc

that include ur level and skill level

but im not 100% sure

[versed solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZb8Q1m0QPw&ab_channel=Dongeneratez

[versed solar]

the police gal jumps a lot like carlotta and spams charged attack i guess?

[last nest]

Carlotta has hyperlee kit if we speak about pgr

With more jumping and less bfg

[unreal magnet]

Pretty sure it's less jumping

And more dashing

[versed solar]

kek

i honestly dont remember pgr char gameplay too well

[unreal magnet]

If you look at hyperlee gameplay it's usually just him flying everywhere with the occasional sniping

[last nest]

It's usually Watanabe on field you mean

[ionic quiver]

btw do we know what the nightmare echoes skill already?

i want to experiments

[marble sapphire]

from what i have seen, they are basically fast/more convenient versions of existing echoes

[ionic quiver]

fast in term of like, execution?

or the speed of the skills

[marble sapphire]

both

let me get pics

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1h3r5cc/new_echo_sets_and_nightmare_echos_20/

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1h3gc1j/nightmare_tempest_mephis_new_skill_move/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1h3gdlj/nightmare_impermanence_heron_new_skill_move/

[ionic quiver]

cant access here

i open it later

[zealous grove]

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/italy-gif-2039439048312726739

[ionic quiver]

@zealous grove any maps leak?

[vapid prairie]

I doxxed Zani's house

[ionic quiver]

i need to plan my move

small areas to larger area

[zealous grove]

Well, nothing recent. Unless, you haven't seen this.

||I say that since this was leaked 23 days ago. ||

[ionic quiver]

oh i havent seen this

pog big map

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/ryoutaichika/status/1871140583869469037?t=98maLYsn7atDSOH0aoayLw&s=19

https://fixupx.com/Rexlent/status/1871139222280958175?t=1Sup4ZPgSq9XmaOo3IV5-w&s=19

[weak jay]

her aim feature same as lucid dreamer, her ult same as hyperreal and her auto look like arisa

[weak jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/524772653308051496.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[zealous grove]

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Rexlent/status/1871173269644304465 smh

guess those people don't play gachas for that long

[young forge]

isnt defencive units often overtuned

[marble sapphire]

that or they often dont get powercreeped that easily

also, i thought Bofuri or Shield Hero is a thing

[scenic condor]

ew rexlent

that man is dead to me

[last nest]

Why?

[last nest]

I presume the wory is coming from genshin folk who think she will be like Dehya/zhongli

[marble sapphire]

one of the two is not like the other

[last nest]

Dehya is worry of her being bad, Zhongli is wory of her making combat braindead(it's what Zhongli did to genshin before they started making enemies ignoring his shield)

[marble sapphire]

i think they are worrying over nothing

[scenic condor]

the whole brat thing with youho was weird af, him hating on male playable characters and telling people to shut about wanting more males in thegame, whiteknighting kuro all day long when the pgr server speedup is a disaster, his pgr guides dropped in quality too and he just seems to have abandoned the game mostly

[last nest]

Speed up is a disaster? Why? Is it about having to pay for 2-3 bp?

Other idk, I didn't notice it but I am not paying close attention to him. Also I do find it funny how genshin fans shit on wuwa for supposdly having no males when genshin will end 5.0 with 2 limited males which is already less than Wuwa did. Yes all I hear is praise about how husbandy freindly the game is lol

[marble sapphire]

stockholm syndrome

[last nest]

and like, at least Wuwa males look good. Genshin just got another twink in Natlan.

[scenic condor]

cause it only "benefits" f2ps (it's not really a benefit they just dont lose anything) and fucks up anybody who is used to buying bp, monthly passes, packs etc. it asks us to do the same 3 times from the same paycheck to keep up. and obviously lots of ppl are not willing to do that

[scenic condor]

whos the 2nd limited male?

lol

we dont get a 2nd one

based on that reveal

[last nest]

well what did people want? It was pretty obv they wouldn't just give you free bp/monthly plan so it's a price you have to pay for speed up content

[scenic condor]

but yes i agree. genshin is just as bad as wuwa. NOW. but it used to do a lot better, meaning i have a lot males to play with. i can clear abyss with only males everytime. wuwa started out bad already. genshin at least fed me nicely for 3 years

[last nest]

My mistake

I thought jeans guy was 5 star

[scenic condor]

oh yeah. he was. originally. then they swapped him to 4* which made zero sense from the story's pov but thats okay. hope incels are happy

[last nest]

genshin had 4 limited males released in it's first year and than 2 in inazuma. We will have at least 3 in first year. I don't see that big diffrence you are speaking about

[scenic condor]

nobody asked for the speed up. it shouldnt have happened, or it should have happened at a slower pace so we can keep up. and yes pack discount would have been nice. and would have gotten them more money. i never a saw a gacha actively trying to piss off its whales before

[last nest]

Pack discounts never happen when gachas do accelerated schedule. Pretty sure they would run into issues with apple if they tried

[scenic condor]

what issues

[last nest]

Apple had some things where you couldn't have diffrent prices on diffrent platforms

Which is why they killed region pricing

I do agree that speed up was not nessery but well, pgr is a pretty generous game as it is so I get them wanting to make more money

[scenic condor]

well if we go by calendar year. genshin came out 2020 sep and gave us 4 limited males by the end of 2020 (so within 3 months). wuwa came out in may and managed to give us only 2 within 8 months. yea bro that feels a lot worse. and at the very least genshin gave us male 4*s, wuwa did not manage to make a single male 4star and i dont think they will anytime soon

2021 was 3 males
2022 4
2023 5
and then genshin went to shit and we got ONE in 2024

if we count limited 5*s only

[last nest]

Wait who was the 4th in 2023. Other than fountain trio

[scenic condor]

?

2023 was ham baizhu lyney nv rizz

[last nest]

Ahh right the years desync with versions

[scenic condor]

we actually got more males than females in 2023

was a good year 😄

wait lemme find the pic

[last nest]

Not for the revenue tho

Which is why you now got 1

[scenic condor]

revenue now is worse than it was during when males released

wdym

[last nest]

yes cause half the playerbase left to play hsr/zzz/other games

[scenic condor]

also we dont even know proper revenue so we can both only use sensor tower which is not even accurate data

[last nest]

Mhy is cannibalizing itself

[scenic condor]

there we go

[last nest]

Right, so the averages a 3 males per year. Not exactly blowing Wuwa away here

[scenic condor]

again. no. wuwa started out shit

thats not a 3 average without 2024

[last nest]

Genshin started out frontloded with males and than slowed down until 2023

[scenic condor]

and as i said genshin ppl shit on wuwa for lack of males "look how genshin gave us males" go off nostalgia

and before 2024 we had a way better ratio

plus dont forget the 4*s either

we did get a good amount of male 4*s

wuwa did not make a single one

but yes as it is right now, genshin is just as bad as wuwa

[old summit]

it hasnt even been half anni yet for wuwa

[last nest]

I don't like bad 4 stars which is majority of genshin ones

Much prefer them actually being playable

[scenic condor]

most of them are playable

tbh

i cant even make ONE wuwa team with males only let alone 3 teams. brant will change that thank god

[scenic condor]

so? how is that an excuse? xd

we already had the lineup revealed for the next releases which should last till anni

[last nest]

Your Jiyan mortefi brant team?

[scenic condor]

yeah thats it

as long as brant can proc the healer set and his cd is not longer than 25s he'll work in place of baizhi just fine

regardless of the rest of his kit

[vapid prairie]

Really seemed like Hoyo felt bad about releasing 3 5* males in a row at the start of 4.x and then proceeded to overcorrect by not releasing one till Kinich

[scenic condor]

they feel so bad that rizz hasnt even gotten a rerun in more than a year

[last nest]

Hoyo is a greedy corp, they don't feel bad. They just seen bad bottom line

[scenic condor]

but yea i didnt ask for back to back males. that was a shit decision. my wallet felt it

[last nest]

Now it's to late and genshin is floping

Cause they canibilized it with hsr and zzz

[vapid prairie]

Hoyo finding all the excuses to not add more males in 6.x despite being filler

We know from leaks 5.x is doomed so

[scenic condor]

and im ok with wuwa too now. as long as the female kits are interesting and they look appealing to me im ok with it

but no more simpery pls

i cant take any more

[vapid prairie]

Kits are fun. Looking forward to Brant and Zani

[scenic condor]

i really hope phoebe will be strong

[last nest]

you might want to skip next story than

[scenic condor]

i look forward to her even more than brant

[scenic condor]

i always skip story wdym

[last nest]

than idk where you even see simpery

[scenic condor]

ever since the simpfest begun

well i dont see it anymore

im willing to read again if they stop it

i planned to read 2.0 story cause new region and all

but ig carlotta will simp too

[last nest]

she is supposdly on par with Jinhsi but aoe based rather than single target

[scenic condor]

thats fine

tower is really easy

[vapid prairie]

Haven't looked at 2.0 stuff that deep yet. Is Phoebe gonna be the Jinhsi of 2.x?

[scenic condor]

just make her kit fluid

and im good

[last nest]

No that's the elf

Who they didn't reveal yet

[scenic condor]

no thats the half naked girl

😄

[open copper]

I think they are clearly planning a Zani/Phoebe team.

[scenic condor]

im down with that

shielder woman in pants. yes. im down for that

cute ojou with a big ass hat? yes

[open copper]

Feels like Zani will be a un-clunked Taoqi, I think.

[vapid prairie]

Ah. I like Phoebe's design the best. Saw someone post that she's copying Navia

[scenic condor]

well they are both copying durandal

tbh

which is why i loved them both

but it's not like hoyo invented the ojou trope

long blond haired noble woman with a hat

it's very very common

[last nest]

Both durandal and navia go for hot look

Very diffrent from Phoebe

[scenic condor]

sadly navia kit was shit

[last nest]

She is closer to Furina imho

[vapid prairie]

As long as it's not a hybrid mess like Taoqi and Jianxin are

[scenic condor]

i did roll her on my alt and the proceeded to abandon that account cause i cant with her gameplay

i hate nukers

[last nest]

hopefuly we will get another char that uses heavy attacks at some point

[scenic condor]

and this ^

phoebe hype

[last nest]

It's fucked up that Mortefi only has 1 team

[scenic condor]

honestly if he had faster concerto gen he could have been as versatile as sanhua

he gives teamwide atk buff too

and good off field dmg

even if you ignore the outro heavy

[last nest]

He is busted at s6 but well, general isn't the best dps

[scenic condor]

it's just hes not as fast as sanhua

thats really the only reason why he has no other place than jiyan

[last nest]

Sanhua is even more busted tho

[vapid prairie]

Any 5* Aero coming up?

[scenic condor]

hope not

dont want to lose more males

based on current leaks, no

[last nest]

Skin price confirmed pretty much

[scenic condor]

zani element is the only one thats keep changing

between electro and spectro

the rest are pretty consistent across leaks

[last nest]

The elf girl I think was Aero

[scenic condor]

she was?

oh

yea then rip jiyan probably

but hey then i can skip her

thats good

i dislike her design anyway

[open copper]

Cutscene pretty much confirms that both Zani/Phoebe are Spectro.
Anything else is pure cope.

[last nest]

not sure, elements keep changing

Zani was supposed to be electro while Phoebe was aero

[open copper]

Unlike the Other Game, Wuwa actually shows the characters using their powers in-story

[last nest]

Now both are spectro

[scenic condor]

genshin used to do that too. they dont do it natlan cause they know their kits dont make sense in-universe with all the modern tech

[last nest]

Team Gemberry gave us a list of codes and character names and apparently they indicate element.

11XX Glacio, 12XX Fusion, 13XX Electro, 14XX Aero, 15XX Spectro and 16XX Havoc. With this knowledge, we can say for the time being as it can change in development...

Brant (Fusion) Xiakong (Aero) Katixiya (Aero) Phoebe (Spectro) Zani (Spectro) Cantarella (Havoc)

This is the latest version I think

[scenic condor]

who the fk is. xiakong and cantarella

wait xiakong sounds male

[last nest]

Cantarella is supposdly red haired violinist elf from 2.3

idk who Xiakong is. maybe a 4 star?

[open copper]

Sounds like a CNY character.

[vapid prairie]

Just wondering about Zani. Isn't there an upcoming set that mentions shield?

[scenic condor]

there is

[open copper]

People thought that Brant would be the shielder, but I am pretty skeptical of that by now.

[scenic condor]

2.1 will kill me

probably

tho i do have a lot of pulls saved up

[last nest]

Here

[open copper]

Zani is clearly the shielder. (Her Shield in the cutscene doesn’t fit her color scheme, though.)

[scenic condor]

oh

woman

of course

...

[open copper]

Shorekeeper little sister

[scenic condor]

kuro white hair syndrome strikes again

[vapid prairie]

NOTE: The HP/shield set seems to still exist in data, at the moment it was replaced but should be implemented later on
So no final one yet

[scenic condor]

sus

aaah maybe i should skip carlotta too

but i do like her look and gameplay

but 2.1 is too heavy

[last nest]

2.0 will have 150 free pulls

[scenic condor]

hmm true

i have like 30k astrite rn

[last nest]

Depends on you if you want ot risk losing 2 50/50s

[vapid prairie]

Skipping Carlotta till story convinces me

[scenic condor]

well

[open copper]

If I remember the sets:

1. Glacio Set (Carlotta)
2. Havoc Set (Roccia)
3. Shielder set (Zani?)
4. Aero set (Galadriel)
5. ???

[scenic condor]

35 pulls in no pity

so yea...rough

i dont even have a prio order yet

this is gonna be tough

[open copper]

Spectro Set (Phoebe/Zani)

[last nest]

Could always try to win 50/50 for Carlotta and than skip if not

[scenic condor]

another patch without a new char

kill meeee

nah i gotta roll her

150 pulls from the patch basically refunds her

[last nest]

Are you done with current overworld?

[scenic condor]

even if i lose

mostly

but not fully

and i havetn finished all the events yet either

i should be okay

[last nest]

Could squiz another 30-50 pulls out than

Plus who knows, maybe they give as a free brant

[scenic condor]

phoebe > brant > changli is my prio i think

but i might skip changli ..... again

we'll see

[last nest]

Than I would try to win 50/50 on Carlotta and than start saving for 2.1

[scenic condor]

i could wallet i suppose

i cant even buyout the current month pulls

cause i havent pulled in so long

idont have the blue corals

oh RIGHT

i do have these i suppose

thats 32 pulls

[last nest]

Really bad idea if you care about constelations

[vapid prairie]

Prio is
Phoebe > Zani > Brant

[scenic condor]

i really dont

this game doesnt warrant it

tower is too easy

[last nest]

Hsr was easy too, it still easy but was easy

[scenic condor]

and wuwa hasnt done genshin-level of c1-c2 qol

[last nest]

But less so with hp inflation now

[scenic condor]

hsr is numbers game

very much so

no outplay potential

[last nest]

Also I doubt wuwa will follow suit

[scenic condor]

wuwa definitely has skill involved

and i do think im good enough that i could clear with suboptimal shit too

[last nest]

I do explect mope annyoing bossess like in pgr

Fuck the dragon guy

[scenic condor]

fu shen?

lol

[last nest]

With his grappler bullshit

[scenic condor]

just dodge bruh

the trick with him is to dodge thru him not to the side

[last nest]

I am unbeliveable bad at dodging grapples

[scenic condor]

you can also just iframe it

[last nest]

In every game I play

[scenic condor]

with ults

some ults displace you well enough that you can avoid

if this is ppc then hes a phys boss so balter will dash thru him

[last nest]

That's a good idea actually, I didn't think about it

[scenic condor]

you can jump over him with alisa yellow ping too

[last nest]

No I don't have issues with him in ppc. I was talking about the clash

[scenic condor]

ah

lamia that bitch

the dive attack stuns him mid-grapple

it's very funny

but yea u got various ways of outplaying it

my annoying clash boss is tifa

with the hp burn

ugh i hated that

especially paired with the dodge burn

[last nest]

I got good at doding tifa

[scenic condor]

yikes

just dont use qu in clash

lamia is probably the best clash clearer

[last nest]

But yes Wuwa will prob be more casual

[scenic condor]

if u got her rotational team

wuwa definitely will be

no leaderboard

[last nest]

I hope they make some more endgame content tho

[scenic condor]

no reason to go hard

[last nest]

Something like PvP esq boss fights would be fun

3 on 3

[scenic condor]

i do like holobosses

i would be down for a clash-like boss rush mode too

honestly i may chalk up by bad experience with wuwa releases to kits i dont like

rather than gender

and i just think it's the gathering wives and the simpery cause thats an easier answer

but now that i think about it

i think it's their gameplay

hi3 was all female and i never had a problem with it as long as gameplay was fluid and interesting

[last nest]

well it's about expectations i think. Not sure about you but a lot of people came into Wuwa expecting it to copy genshin with male focus from the start like genshin did

While nobody explects males from Hi3 even if the game has some of the better male chars in gacha

[scenic condor]

i expected quickswap and slick bitches

yinlin, changli are both peak

but the rest of the post-release women...all misses for me

[last nest]

yinlin is peak. I got spooked by her while pulling for lumi and not regretting it

[scenic condor]

what wouldnt i give for a hot witch woman with a bigass witch hat

lisa meta when

[last nest]

We need magic nation for that

So prob 3.X or 4.X

Cause I think we might be going to new federation in 3.X

which is techology based

[scenic condor]

if phoebe uses that staff

she will suffice

hat+staff

is all i need

😄

ah tower reset

here we go again

[last nest]

She used staff in the story leaks

Also idk how they are going translate that to gameplay.

[scenic condor]

eh

elysia did it

phoebe can do it too

[versed solar]

can carlotta parry?

[scenic condor]

yes

but only in the rifle mode, not in pistol mode

or shotgun, whatevr that wep is

skill also parries

and im sure intro parries too

even mortefi intro parries

and hes full on pistol

[versed solar]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-cat-omg-laser-eyes-bitcoin-btc-gif-22893462

she becomes must pull every second that passes

[scenic condor]

i was sold when i heard her eng va

and the hyperreal gameplay

😄

it's great that they actually threw out the stupid pistol sniper mode shit on heavys

like mortefi has

[versed solar]

whos her eng va

i know her jp

[scenic condor]

jennifer english. shadowheart from bg3

and yea her jp is kana ueda. also iconic

[versed solar]

cool

[young forge]

i wonder what language she speaks

tag me when there is animations of pirate dude

[scenic condor]

thats probably midway thru next patch, so sometime in january

but will do

2.1 will be so lit

[marble sapphire]

last week of 12/12 IR rewards before new patch...

[ionic quiver]

i wanna save my energy IRL

not gonna play any gacha game more than 5 mins

[unreal magnet]

Instead theory craft for hours

Need to make those 5 minutes each day count

[ionic quiver]

whats this ToA line up?

the same with previous line up?

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Legend0777/status/1871274916223611271

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/M0NTELLI/status/1871290075041898621?t=-i84C8ThvzKXkmQi-yJugA&s=19 I know that she definitely took inspiration but wasn't expecting it to be down to the angles and shots too

https://fixupx.com/pomato_v/status/1871182414191747306 I saw a comment noting that killing faster actually harms your score compared to parrying or dodging more. I say, wtf

[ionic quiver]

yeah

i was confused too

boss dead in 4 secs and i got lower score

but i only care about first 3 so

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Bocc_29/status/1871205354375442718

[scenic condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgZFBEl7gG0

this is for the ppl who are scared of zani having a shield

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/ArsevensX/status/1871424037748089071

[open copper]

I’m starting to think that leakers just got the entire thing wrong.

The same ones saying that Brant was a healer also said that Phoebe was Aero (or something)

I’m thinking that Elf is the Aero unit

[last nest]

Sustain = Hsr player = Advance version of midyuan cope to be calling brant the second most popular

[last nest]

it makes sense for Brant to be a healer cause he is rerunning with Changli

[marble sapphire]

second most popular according to views/likes I noticed

[last nest]

Twitter views and likes have nothign to do with popularity

Remember, Itto got more retweets and likes than Raiden

[marble sapphire]

irrelevant, i was making a guess on which metric is that poster basing it off

whether it's true in spirit is another question

[ionic quiver]

aite i was using jinhsi vs scar

im so fucking drunk

[open copper]

Nah, Scar spectro resistances is very counter-intuitive.

[ionic quiver]

doesnt change the fact that goat scar has spectro resist

[open copper]

Like, you can at least see the Havoc Damage if you pay attention. Nobody looking at that Demon sees anything Light.

[unreal magnet]

You know, in the past it wasn't even noted in the tower that scar resisted spectro

I got to know it because he killed my 36 crest

[scenic condor]

i dont get it

i did it with 6 diff main chars

why tf is this not completed??

do trial units not count or something?

ah nvm

did it

[scenic condor]

also mortefi is so fkin fun in IR

jesus

[scenic condor]

oh wtf scar boss hit me thru shield

kek

shield did not take any dmg

and i just died thru the shield

strange

[open copper]

The “shield” in this game is just Extra HP, apparently

[scenic condor]

but

the shield stayed

it just hit my hp thru it

shield didnt take any dmg

so if it's extra hp only it should have disappeared too

since me dying means they damaged enough to kill the shield too

[unreal magnet]

U sure it wasn't a shield that was proc-ed after taking damage

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1871733674837991571?t=MCoxSP69as94fZn3Jmp40A&s=19

[rough token]

https://youtu.be/IfGkTZkB_G4?si=jYSkDqfY6aJooTD5
Holy shit
Full version

Time to listen to all 4

[vapid prairie]

https://fixupx.com/Narushioww/status/1871780652653432913

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Legend0777/status/1871868361841533136?t=ephWYj0vU1vBEkTue8tJtA&s=19

guess thats an acknowledgement they fucked up

yeah, they nerfed the point requirement

its not 'free for no effort' but i got all rewards

[scenic condor]

nop. i had the bigass shield so i didnt dodge and proceeded to cast rider echo instead thinking i'd survive thru the shield but i didnt xd

[versed solar]

https://fixupx.com/Narushioww/status/1871780652653432913

[marble sapphire]

posted 5 hours ago smh

[versed solar]

Lmao I'm blind

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/WutheringW_GW/status/1872192336916295808 Zani in top 10 before release

[last nest]

small sample size ofc but sitll pretty impressive for Rover to end up that high

[rough token]

Hold???

A dumbass let's go

[marble sapphire]

huh?

[vapid prairie]

Zani's JP VA quote retweet on the announcement post

[rough token]

Pls be real and not mistranslate

[marble sapphire]

got link?

[vapid prairie]

https://x.com/Weeeda_I/status/1870713461958963351

上田瞳 (@Weeeda_I) on X

ザンニーのCVを担当いたします！

資料をいただいた時に「こんな素敵な人を演じさせていただけるの！？」とすごくテンションが上がったと同時にとても緊張しました！笑

一言で言うと
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#鳴潮
#リナシータ

Twitter · Dec 22, 2024, 6:10 AM

[marble sapphire]

ty

[old summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/aimdrawings/status/1870479300090356183

[vapid prairie]

https://fixupx.com/Valkyrie0609/status/1872230594098369017

https://fxtwitter.com/Legend0777/status/1872270639001960628

[scenic condor]

im so fkin bored

i maxed out this man too

also i linked my email but i still cant claim

do i have to link my damn fb to it too??

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/wuwaguy/status/1872261113553080391 how long before phone becomes a brick due to heat generation

speaking from experience as somebody who had to go get phone RAM replaced because the heat from 3 years or so has bricked it...

[old summit]

shouldnt the phone survive as long as your not cooking it 24/7

?

[marble sapphire]

yes, but playing 3D games in general I find tends to accelerate rate of deterioration

[old summit]

was it a cheap or old phone

[marble sapphire]

mine? Flagship

[old summit]

mmm, I had mine for 3 yearsish now too

and I havent had an issue yet

[marble sapphire]

which is why I am going to avoid playing HSR on phone in particular

[old summit]

but I dont play wuwa much on it

its either to do a quick run on a tacet field or forgery

or to buy something in shop

[unreal magnet]

I'm doing fine with no problems whatsoever

[last nest]

@scenic condor Carlotta got changed, buffed so now she can quick swap again outside of liberation.

[scenic condor]

thank god

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Legend0777/status/1872640150058250255

ambitious

[last nest]

Major updates don't nesserly mean new region every 6 month

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Narushioww/status/1872643468432228845 more on the interview

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1872646060075835605

[last nest]

Solon really should be careful giving such statements. Unless he actually delivers genshin level of shipping people going to get mad "about being lied too"

[marble sapphire]

isnt he being careful

[last nest]

No, he basically says what people were asking but let's say player character start interact more but are still implied to be into MC.

Shippers won't like that at all

Or MC taking a back seet. Dies it means like say Pgr MC or traveler who might as well not exist for 2 years after this point

Cause genshin fans will surely demand the latter

[marble sapphire]

and i am saying, its a PR friendly statement, he didnt actually promise stuff like ships between two non MC characters or anything

thats just an expectation

[last nest]

Will see, I predict a shit show if Zani is going to be into MC after that interview

People on twitter are already shipping her with phebi

[marble sapphire]

hrrrm, i personally am leery of crack ships where the two characters have completely zero interaction or similarities or anything meanwhile. I guess i can see where that one came from considering they were in the trailer side by side

[last nest]

It's more that Zani is taken a liking to by a lot of the "fuck gathering wives" crowd so they obviously want her to be shipped with someone else

Nobody is shipping say shorekeeper with Camellya cause shippers dislike them both

[marble sapphire]

hmm, i am not quite sure this is the whole picture here...but i'll also say, lets not bother pursuing this topic, i found that i am increasingly uncaring over the antics of such people

[last nest]

I can't see them making new region every 6 month in unless they will stop map updates between regions

[marble sapphire]

i mean...we have seen them do piece meal regions

unless they start having each new area be much bigger and bigger and bigger like Genshin

[last nest]

Did they say if top ups reset I'm 2.0?

[marble sapphire]

nope

[scenic condor]

i dont mind if it does tbh

genshin 1 year cycle is so boring

the last couple of patches are always filler shit

so i'd be happy to move on to a new region after 6m

[last nest]

I would like it myself but unless the theory that genshin delays new regions on purpourse to milk people is right idk how a much smaller company like Kuro can pull it off

[scenic condor]

does genshin really milk tho

[last nest]

well milk by releasing new chars. The logic is that it's cheaper to make more chars per region

Esp since a lot of sales in Genshin are formulaic. You have a bunch os lower effort chars they don't expect to sell all that well and than a bunch of heavy hitters they heavily promote

and during the skip parts of genshin you are supposed to go play hsr/zzz/next hoyo game and whale there instead

[scenic condor]

but kuro doesnt have hsr zzz to send players to

[open copper]

It’s probably just going to be a Huanglong New Town/New Country release cycle.

Means we get 2 Sentinel Resonators per year.

Star Rail definitely delays new regions on purpose, it should not be that hard to make them.

[scenic condor]

we will see

[vapid prairie]

I think they stall it purely because they need to milk their anniversary unit in 3.1. We should've moved on to Amphoreus instead of having 2.6 and 2.7

[vapid prairie]

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[marble sapphire]

all atk%

[vapid prairie]

All of them are the same weapon. No variation in stats or passive

Gotta wonder what the debuffs are tho

[unreal magnet]

Negative Status?

Is it referring to DoT effects?

The only such effects i can think of rn are Jue, Xinlin mark, Spectro Rover, Future Havoc Rover and Verina

Oh right, Danjin

[scenic condor]

yay more trash

guess thats what we get for having a no 50/50 wep banner

but why even bother with releasing craftables if they are all shit

[unreal magnet]

New player weapons?