Wuthering Waves

[candid loom]

Game just got boring too fast

[scenic condor]

gogo

[old summit]

https://fxtwitter.com/ennu_1/status/1844723650634678680

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1844745374315266403?t=aTN-XnUQHTjwXnHMfJzE7A&s=19 basically she's a combat examiner and considered eccentric but effective

awkward to talk with, seems to enjoy the fighting much more than assessment, leaves a huge mess but anybody who passes the test are considered top tier

[burnt mortar]

Tsubakithonk

[old summit]

day 3 of farming for one single hp heal turtle

still nothing so far

[old summit]

how much energy regen does yinlin want (shes using the moonlit set)

[ionic quiver]

going for encore 4c echo

got this beauty

cant use it on encore tho

[vapid prairie]

Nice Changli piece

[zealous grove]

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Universe/status/1844873802959696178?t=Fjz9eVnitUgS6MJwXudD0g&s=19

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/2_vziu/status/1845153032574730626

[weak jay]

[zealous grove]

[zealous grove]

Oooh. Didn’t knew about this Luokeke leak.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/Rt5bGxDQ47

[vapid prairie]

0/10 no shitty drawing

[ionic quiver]

i need character that can change their weapon

from spear to sword or anything

kinda weirdchamp they didnt make spear as a weapon

[old summit]

is this by chance the infamous gun user

[marble sapphire]

hmm i dont think so

[zealous grove]

No. The other one. Some people said on that post that she might be based of rococo, french fashion of the 1700's.

[marble sapphire]

i did the challenge modes of that coop event, i'll just put this here

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/shigureszku/status/1845409848172675166?t=qKrp5m2YjqgDhyTReG0zww&s=19

[old summit]

does food affect tower

[vapid prairie]

Nah

[old summit]

the bad news

Im almost out of echo xp, tuners, and money

the good news

almost all my good resos (except rover and dajin) all have good echo stats now

with sanhwa and zhezhi still being slightly iffy, though once zheshi gets her sig in rerun, she will have good stats

[vapid prairie]

I have 2k tunas

[old summit]

k zhezhi echo set with yinlin sig is better now

only downside now

is that I have 20 regen

instead of 30

but once I get her sig, her stats will all be good after

@scenic condor question

Its only Shorekeeper that doesnt want healing bonus turtle right?

Bazhi and Verina still want healing bonus?

[old summit]

best I can do now

not sure if skill issue

or literal skills issue

[scenic condor]

yes ofc, why would they not want heal bonus

they dont do any dmg

[old summit]

jsut hought that maybe like say verina

if getting ATK turtle

does more healing

[scenic condor]

no

[old summit]

than just healing bonus

[scenic condor]

no

sk is running hp for the dmg

not for more heals

hp 4cost heals less on sk too than hb

however. at the end of the day. most shit can be dodged so on paper u shouldnt need much healing anyway

[zealous grove]

My Verina, before I built a Crit Rate turtle, had ATK turtle despite getting a Healing Bonus turtle.

Cause, why should I heal more when I could deal even a miniscule of damage.

[ionic quiver]

new tower?

time to beat the crap out of new tower

after gym ofc

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1g2rx5b/camellya_quickswap_by_sleep/ hm they do say shes concerto efficient

[ionic quiver]

NGL This mid toweer scared me a littlee

but all is well when sanhua just deal 300k in 1 rotation

also goat chixia

[marble sapphire]

i actually seem to have problems on how to play Chixia, use skill once and then unload all the bullets on the next skill, liberation, switch to another?

[ionic quiver]

i do

err

basically i do echo first

increase my fusion

e once

and theen Q

max buff

seee my opponent, if they AFk i hold E and shout wallah and deal around 60k damage

im still min maxing my chixia

but her kit is easy to play in tower

this is currently her stats

basically low on atk

like other pistol char

but that also means my echo is dogshit on atk% / atk flat

[marble sapphire]

mine needs more levels and traces

...because leveling anything to 90 feels expensive

[ionic quiver]

honestly i dont think its expensive

with the new events

it sorta a cashback

[marble sapphire]

i guess what i shouldnt do is leveling talents beyond...8

that took a loooong time first time i did it

[ionic quiver]

leveling beyond 8 means thats ur 1st and 2team

for towers

my level 10 skill

atm

jinhsi yinlin xiangliyao

and the other is like

level 8 /7

except chixia she is sitting with level 9 on liberation and forte

never doubt skill levels

8 to 9 is big boost

level 10 is just another lvel of boost

[scenic condor]

i would have still put sanhua with xy and yinlin with jinshi but this worked too it seems

[old summit]

@ionic quiver question

so I havent gotten any passive skills besides inherit on any of my chars

do the bonuses of those passives

are reflected on your char stat sheet?

[ionic quiver]

yes

at lesat i realized it did add to the sheet

[ionic quiver]

i personally think the S6 did alot for jinhsi

and the rotation were pretty simple too

[marble sapphire]

i'll call that an achievement because 2-3 of both towers were by a 3rd weaker Havoc team

...did i miss crit on Jinhsi 3 times in a row?

oh wait, my fault for using spectro vs spectro

11 and 12 blah, my 2nd team needs work

to think theres like a week before the 2nd half of banners...

[ionic quiver]

what is ur roster?

i really thik this time tower effect is really OP

[marble sapphire]

in this case i am not having enough damage...or needs faster rotation on changli/chixia/shorekeeper team for hammer guy boss on left tower

this is why i need to raise more characters

[ionic quiver]

try to level up skill levels

i cleared tower on level 8 skills tho

definitely something to work on

icant help without looking at stats

i leveled up skill levels to 10 just to clear overdrive

[old summit]

is the reason Im not doing good on towers literally because of skills?

[ionic quiver]

idk i need to see stats

[marble sapphire]

mind, i am working with mostly level 80 characters, not 90

so i need to get to work on that

[old summit]

I have mostly perfect stats

but like

[ionic quiver]

i dont know about perfect

[old summit]

Uhhh

[ionic quiver]

i dont have perfect stats

yet i hit all tower easily

[old summit]

lemme get my screen shots

[ionic quiver]

look at my chixia

that perfect? more like dogshit

not 2k atk

[marble sapphire]

i do know how level 80 to 90 makes all the difference considering it has a hidden damage boost or at least raises your damage vs higher level enemies

[old summit]

I'll equip them with their weapons too for each ss

[ionic quiver]

80 to 90 alone without any raise on atk

give u around 10-12% damage boost

because of level gaps

[old summit]

Mind you like I said, none of my chars have their passive skills unlokced except the inherit skills

[ionic quiver]

and ofc higher base atk means atk% getting more beneificial

[marble sapphire]

right, the way i divide my teams means that my 2nd DPS are all level 80, i need to work on that

[ionic quiver]

IMO

[marble sapphire]

theres time

[ionic quiver]

priotizing team that hits tower

is better than raising all characters

[old summit]

team 1

[ionic quiver]

like u have this preset

a combo

u raise those first

hit towers

like i did earlier

then 2nd team

hit tower

then i know what my pwer level is

i started using solo chixia or trash team to hit tower 1 2 3

then use real team for tower 4

[old summit]

team 2

[ionic quiver]

i mean those stats arent that far away from my stats

and passive wont directly translate to 30-40% dmage boost

[old summit]

team 3

[ionic quiver]

all i can say is try to play the game urself and figured out what u missing

game like this is easy

the hard part is optizming ur rotation based on enemy

like scar for example

u cant force to hit him with rotation

when he can jump and stuff

and its not even hard once u see his pattern 1-2 times

[ionic quiver]

u can make the best rotation

[old summit]

these are how my skills more or less look

on all my chars

[ionic quiver]

okay u are actually

getting brainwashed

by those youtubes echoes

u are missing out at lesat 80% damage boost

by not leveling it to 8

always

always

character level > skill > echoes

math wise skill damage multiplier is better

u have decent stats but ur skill dmg multiplier is dogshit

even my encore skills are level 9

with shit echoes

as my evaluation on what to focus next

and i still min max based on what i need

not what people said

[old summit]

well isnt the hardest part

the echo farming

I basically finished that

[ionic quiver]

lol no

echo farming is not the hardest part

echo farming basically what u do

after u finish everything

echo / artifact / relic in any gacha games

always changed

theres no definite echo

but character levels

and skills

stay the same

even if the game run for 1 2 years

but in those 1 2 years

ur echo relic artifact will changed thru out times

because u find the better one

essentially spekaing

u wasted ur stamina on something that will get switched

meanwhile levels and skills wont get switched

it cna only go up

at maximum level 10

and that it

or game suddenly give us level 100 and give max skill level to 12

[old summit]

but the thing is

the skills will always be there and you will always know what your getting

but echoes are RNG

[ionic quiver]

yes why farming for RNG

when u can get what u need instantly

[old summit]

yes so echo farming

is the hardest part

not skill leveing

[ionic quiver]

not the hardest

i didnt say skill leveling is the hardest

now lets do this

screenshot ur yinlin liberation skill damage multiplier

now

u go to ur game

farm mats

get it to level 8

screenshot here again

[old summit]

cantr do that, Im about of helixes

lmao

[ionic quiver]

damage multiplier is getting insane

[old summit]

about of*

[ionic quiver]

see?

[old summit]

out of*

[ionic quiver]

i still have my stamina

in my backpack

just in case new character came out

u are wasting resources on something

getting switched

and the result is differnet

in fact u have more characters than i do

i can hit tower with ur account if i use the levels > skills > echo mindset

and finish overdrive 18 stars

u have everything but u cant use it because u have the wrong mindset to it

even ariel encourage me to pull jiyan if i dont want to S1 Sk iirc

essentially ariel is right, jiyan is great addition to my team since i have evrything i need already

[old summit]

wtf

ariel was so against S1 SK

[ionic quiver]

yeah

but i want SK S1

??

what does everyone say u must agree to it

i love the character so i pull her

whats wrong with that logic

[old summit]

you said he encouraged you to pull jiyan if you did not s1 sk

[ionic quiver]

yes

whats wrong with that tho

also if i dont want

not i didnt

[old summit]

you made it sound like

[ionic quiver]

therse difference

if i dont want S1 Sk , i can try jiyan

if i want SK S1

also fine?

[old summit]

he said that you either pull jiyan or s1 sk

[ionic quiver]

lol no

i asked ariel already b4 i did Sk S1

difference in QoL is not that far

but if i simp for her why not?

i have friends S4 shorekeeper even tho we know SK is good on S2 only

in fact he tried to get S6

why not

u have to change ur mindset

levels > skills > echoes

also i didnt even farm echoes at all for first week in 1.3

all i did i farm mats

overworld mats

money

[old summit]

oh

[ionic quiver]

upgrade all my necessary characters like encore

[old summit]

that reminds me

[ionic quiver]

and SK

[old summit]

how do you farm money

[ionic quiver]

to level 8/9 levels

and then i started

[old summit]

besides sim

[ionic quiver]

to get echoes

and also

those events

that give u damage bonuses

i still had it

like 10-12 of them

and i rarely farm echoes

[marble sapphire]

currently I am not doing tower that seriously, just as much as I can do it...

[ionic quiver]

nothing wrong with it

[old summit]

well heres the thing

I still havent done like

80% of the overworld stuff

I havent even done like

95% of the side quests

[ionic quiver]

red made fun of me wasting moneys like water, hes right tho, i wasted moneys on important stuff first

altho lsat night i trolled

wasted 750k credits

on cooking foods

and synthesis to level max

great way to finish BP quest

[old summit]

still havent told me

how you farm credits

outside of sim

[ionic quiver]

play the game?

idk

i ran out of money

next day i have 1 mill

[old summit]

Im also out of money

[ionic quiver]

then i ran out of money again

next day i have 1 mill

2,4 mills once

then wasteed on lveling my teams ksill level to 10

wasted everything again

have 400k again

idk man

this event alone give players 2M credits

[old summit]

did you do the credit sim?

[ionic quiver]

and gold mats

sometimes

like 1 month

2 days will be sim if i upg characters

if not i wasted on leveling 2nd DPS with moonlit sets

planning

also checking my 3rd team setups

like atm im checking encore

and then checking baizhi

if i dont trolled lsat night i probably still had 2M credits for baizhi

[old summit]

I have sanwha echo pretty much almost built too

because there is a possibility that she might be BiS

for camellya

she isnt perfect though

shes at like 47% crit rate and 240%ish crit damage

unfrotunately

[scenic condor]

yeah makes sense. sanhua fits any team on s6 especially. if verina coord was enough to keep her stacked then all good.

[zealous grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/QdTk4aKJoD

Phrolova in about 2.2 huh.

And, the characters I am looking forward to will like my 999 (and counting) Helix stash atm.

[ionic quiver]

only 1 male?

ariel is so not liking this

[last nest]

Imagine if the male is a free one again.

[weak jay]

|| ||

||is rococo using gun and sword? but why she use rectifier?||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/968171862922240020.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[normal egret]

isnt that Camola?

[zealous grove]

||That's Camorra ||

[scenic condor]

oh look. one male every 4-5 patches. yay

[scenic condor]

yea this is not it. wuwa really turned into gathering wives

everyday im pondering quitting

but the combat is still enjoyable

[weak jay]

watch youtube full of misinformation videos

[zealous grove]

Lore leak (maybe spoiler) ||https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1g44p16/rinascita_lore_tidbits_and_a_logo/||

[open copper]

I am more annoyed that we’re getting Phrolova before Scar.

[scenic condor]

tower still ez

i wish they would let us swap gear without having to go out after i finish a side

......

3 healers sharing one damn variation is annoying

[ionic quiver]

oh ye i forgot to swap my jinhsi sign back to her

i hit tower without that

[ionic quiver]

time to start project yang yang

shes actually really fast at concerto regen

[zealous grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1g5p5ok/20_banners_and_2x_power_creep_info_via_tide/

[ionic quiver]

IR become permanent feature

[marble sapphire]

hmm, powercreep when we havent gotten to first anni?

[marble sapphire]

why am i being stared at

[vapid prairie]

Enough forehead that it fits the watermark

[ionic quiver]

gameplay?

gameplay?

if beat lingyang in term of DPS

we are actually ggs

dethrone the best cyro DPS

[zealous grove]

Yeah. I'm hoping it is just an exaggeration or just a "1-5%" intentional powercreep. If they really amped up the tower with this supposed powercreep, I might just never do tower anymore. Luckily, IR may be becoming a permanent game mode especially if that mode has Asterites in them.

[zealous grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1g69qmr/we_can_get_one_copy_of_youhu_on_the_coral_store/

[unreal magnet]

[ionic quiver]

i aint spending 80 for 4*

im saving until 1,5k

im on camellya skip train

all in the cyro pistol

[zealous grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1g6c5tk/14_permanent_weekly_illusive_realm/

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1g6bfcg/ebbtide_permanent_echo_pvp_in_20_are_you_the_next/

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1g6c4e8/new_14_event_for_skins/

[marble sapphire]

...oh right, this does make it essentially HSR SU or ZZZ Hollow Zero now

though very easy to become massively OP

[ionic quiver]

its just like illusive realm

where jinhsi with bell , max blue and purple + meteor storm perk + def down

[marble sapphire]

in the sense its a weekly roguelike mode with rewards

[ionic quiver]

ye

instead of per patch

its better like this

[marble sapphire]

really, my first surprise was realizing that illusive doesnt last the entire patch and is instead an event...

at least that ones gonna get addressed soon

[zealous grove]

Waiting for WuWa's Withering Garden / Inferno Reap mode

[ionic quiver]

honestly i think kuro is trying something new

IR was really sought after mode

from 1.0

removing it on 1.3 just to solely focus rinascita i think its pretty bad

when IR theme could be really good with SK

so making it permanent is good

[marble sapphire]

echoid/buffed echoes simply doesnt have that same...power trip

[ionic quiver]

question is how will they make it thematic

like 1.2 is really amazing IR tho

i think i liked 1.2 IR the most

totally not because jinhsi swim thru IR like jetski the entire ocean

[marble sapphire]

not to mention being coop = theoretically good but i also have become aware in recent year that you should never expect randos to...actually be anywhere good

[ionic quiver]

yeah

i dont like coop

simply because its slow

and its not guarantee good as well

meanwhile genshin force u to coop

and sometimes its not very nice

if they want

they could make it boss rush or something

like 3 man with their team

banging 1 boss

like a raid

or something

but i dont think they have the technology yet

[marble sapphire]

i have long stopped following Genshin but for HSR i knew that given people complaining about story mode bosses and seeing their comps...that was an eye opener

Supported further by the one or two times i saw people play in coop

different games but same kind of expectations

or not much of it

[ionic quiver]

u dont listen to

them

like 99% of them

is brain dead

i mean this kind of game

if u have basic maths

u know what to do

like in HSR

u do this and that voila

in genshin its the same shit

texted properly u read u test u min max

even worse in genshin

like bosses rn in abyss are just hideous, they AFK

so its just "kill them in 30 secs u are good" game

and people still failed tho

[unreal magnet]

The only real DPS check are challenges with timers that actually matter

AKA tower

The rest you can make up with the appropriate skill

[old summit]

If this is gonna be the case

Then I'd rather save it for the mouse girl

[marble sapphire]

its joever

[burnt mortar]

1984

[ionic quiver]

u mean she cant breed anymore?

[zealous grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1g6j8bj/wuthering_waves_new_permanent_mode_pincher_battle/

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1847474141030732132?t=a3nLj_aCQNEo5QlOP742Ug&s=19 something something Encore's backstory has some surprise dark elements

[vapid prairie]

https://x.com/WW_devteam/status/1848334291731693691

Wuthering Waves Developer (@WW_devteam) on X

Dear Rovers,

Since the start of Version 1.1 CBT, our work has been overshadowed by unauthorized content leaks. These leaks have spread fast and wide, including story cutscenes, storyboard drafts, character concept art, and even discarded environment assets. Many of you have

Twitter · Oct 21, 2024, 12:03 PM

[last nest]

That won't stop the only useful leaks(aka upcoming characters)

[marble sapphire]

i mainly care about like beta animations and stuff but not so much anything else

[unreal magnet]

I do wish people would tune it down a bit with the leaks

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/Narushioww/status/1848378711566880921

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Legend0777/status/1848435967650369611?t=JkgwlkqPoITpHOfrgAZrTA&s=19

[open copper]

Incredible

[marble sapphire]

no crit weapon, so this was a lot of pain to get

ATK is low because its a level 1 weapon

ideally i want the standard 5* gauntlet eventually

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1849843846311559244?t=g--omspNFq53qbDeosS6lQ&s=19 hm

[old summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/mizuasagi35181/status/1849746643333382504

[marble sapphire]

Ayaka

[scenic condor]

very ayaya

wet socks where

[rough token]

The standard record is looking good eh

I kinda want Encore but oh well

[ionic quiver]

iirc her S2 is really nice

[weak jay]

@zealous grove your verina sequence lvl...

[zealous grove]

Uhh, only at S1. I haven't been pulling since Zhezhi.

[rough token]

It is really nice
Her skill gives you 2 stacks and 10 concerto

No wonder she can outspeed SK on 1st rotation

[weak jay]

[toxic nebula]

I will pull you

[toxic nebula]

hmm can I get to blackshore by swimming lemme see (I havent done quest yet)

where is my kaeya ice bridger again

ok I got my first ever death in wuwa

I drowned because I switched to encore while I had infinite stamina glitch

[marble sapphire]

considering Black Shore is like a different map, i doubt it

[marble sapphire]

why so blue

[toxic nebula]

its the effect around Black Shore

then you get tp'd back

I'm going to take a wild guess

its Verina

😳

[weak jay]

loli simp detected

[toxic nebula]

[old summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/LewdLilyyy/status/1847951907022872621

[marble sapphire]

...oh hey, that person has a booth in the artist doujin convention i am attending in two weeks

[old summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/chucky1000sun/status/1850485092533297403

[old summit]

am I supposed to be quick swapping to zhezhi during my jinshi rotations?

because sometimes I dont have my zhezhi lib ready

i dunno if 20% ER is too low or not

[ionic quiver]

anyone know yang yang rotation?

my rotation suck

[scenic condor]

have u checked prydwen?

[last nest]

Got S6 mortefi. Sometimes pulling for 4 stars does pay of.

[open copper]

Jihnsi skin

[last nest]

Looks pretty

[quasi moth]

That’s kinda endearing

[marble sapphire]

looking at it, 2.0 drip should be today...

[vapid prairie]

What time do they do it usually?

[marble sapphire]

around 3:15 hours from now

[toxic nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6m9cvojmyY

[vapid prairie]

reviving even though Shorekeeper has the mechanic

[vapid prairie]

We got brat
https://fxtwitter.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1851202318110507289

[marble sapphire]

damn mispredicted

[vapid prairie]

truly a brat move by Youhu

https://tenor.com/view/youhu-youhu-wuthering-wave-wuwa-youhu-wuwa-gif-5051813595499966437

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1851525271272476725?t=jzhM68q1kgI6dzRAAgZx4A&s=19

[toxic nebula]

lack of Sparkle

[last nest]

Well tbh that's just more in depth question in every survey about the story

[scenic condor]

lack of fking males

i put it in every survey

my monthly login was over yesterday

so i think im quitting for now

it's depressing

sad cause i do love the game's combat

but i maxed out the boys and now i have nothing to do

[last nest]

Next male should be in 2.1. Hopefully there will be more of them in 2.X

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1851972400721858691?t=aQ4igfsWK-AUXIwWACbArw&s=19

[scenic condor]

doubt

it's all boobs

[toxic nebula]

WuWa combat is kinda whatever to me

it feels unga bunga spam skill quick swap with no real synergy

but the story is good, no diaper floater + no malefest unlike HSR

and the character designs arent super predictable unlike Genshin, I find myself looking forward to what the next chara looks like

[scenic condor]

im the opposite. fkin booba everywhere its so fkin boring. story is shit everybody simps mc its boring. ckmvat i do love tho

[toxic nebula]

any story without diaper floater or march 7th is good enough for me, tho idk about the MC glaze part I heard some speculation on beta the characters were unhospitable to the MC but then it got changed because ppl didnt like it

[scenic condor]

yeah

incels were mad waifus werent falling on their knees

[zealous grove]

Well. From what I heard, CBT's story issue was a lot of pointless fetch quests and the fact that people still disrespected Rover even after everything Rover did for them.

[ionic quiver]

wait until they know that rover fuck their leader and their god is rover pet

[marble sapphire]

still no drip, i am now guessing they are waiting for stream or something

[toxic nebula]

too busy sending cease and desist letters to leakers

[marble sapphire]

half anni is like 22 of November apparently

yeah it is

[maiden skiff]

quit and return to hi3

pobi is back too

[scenic condor]

quitting sure, returning to hi3 not likely

[maiden skiff]

[last nest]

New endgame

[last nest]

Cn incels raging while very true in say BA or GFL2(also that game had enough fuck ups even without the incels) is a bit overplayed trope. As far as I know the problem Cn players had with the story was that everyone was hostile to the mc to unreasonable degree not that they didn't want to fuck him

Hell Genshin is the most popular gacha in CN and it has very little mc pandering after inazuma which Cn players are clearly quite fine with

The diffrence is everyone is very friendly to mc in Genshin vs being hostile to them in pre rewright wuwa

[scenic condor]

the issue was that upon meeting yy baizhu chixia for the first time they werent overly nice and they were hostile to an obvious stranger

[zealous grove]

Yeah, but it wasn't the only incident/issue that allegedly triggered CN players.

I personally wouldn't mind them not being overly nice at the start (especially it would be great to have some character growth), but my problem was the next parts where the MC wasn't respected even after the MC helps the people.

[last nest]

my theory is that they had previous mc incarnation be evil in the region rather than jesus like figure we have now, Prob allied with the bad guys

That would explain why everyone was hostile to them at the begning

[marble sapphire]

i'd just point out that their power where they outright seemed to absorb echoes (which was explained a bit later) is highly suspicious to somebody who has never seen it

the one from beta that i dont disagree with them rewriting it was Lingyang companion story because it stinks of bad writing

[open copper]

They should remove the Overworld Boss Spawn Timer

It was already shit in Genshin, even worse in this game, since you have to farm bosses much more

[marble sapphire]

the funny part is that...it was already reduced

it was longer on launch!

[ionic quiver]

seen 1 player CN, killing thundering again and again

without absorbing it

[marble sapphire]

echoes piling up?

[ionic quiver]

ye

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1852546174043275282
https://fixupx.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1852549945267495135

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1852563377324749235?t=9ZUgIvpbiMa3eKknXAyKyQ&s=19 cat

[open copper]

Illusive realm?

Pretty funny loading screen

Maybe the Somnoire stuff will be talked about in the main quest

Imagine if there is a twist that Camellya is actually into the PLAYER, instead of Rover. That would be hysterical. Doki Doki moment

[ionic quiver]

tf dude

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1gbsoue/camellya_skill_name_changed_to_breeding/ its back??

[scenic condor]

jesus the new camellya vid

this is so fking too much coom

what has this game ended up as

just go play snowbreak atp

the immense power overflowing from that sharp blade of yours. i've always wanted to feel it for myself

GIRL

like can we stop with every female wanting to be in our pants pls

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[vocal ginkgo]

declining revenue? just pull a snowbreak

[open copper]

I think the Revenue stabilized around 10k by now.

[marble sapphire]

revenue? I only wonder how long do i have to deal with this monthly discourse that leads nowhere

the only thing that might matter from those is when something is obviously failing

[open copper]

I agree. Why the idiots on Reddit still post on day 01 of the month when the full results are only by the 04 is baffling

Mods should just ban that low-effort shit.

[vapid prairie]

Reddit karma

I love encouraging circlejerk subreddits

[marble sapphire]

....well

that tells me nothing

https://fixupx.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1852908564110512534?t=GSTB7EjmDzCA1Cuxx0_XrQ&s=19

[ionic quiver]

important thanks kuro

[toxic nebula]

aiyo chill

kuro cooking with that line

[burnt mortar]

this is just avg gacha waifu pandering its nothing close to what snowbreak is lol

actually the avg gacha has bikini seasonals so its still behind that too

though I get your frustration at them not giving you enough males

I believe GBF does it the best

balances the male/female fanservice

so everyone gets something

[toxic nebula]

nah its hsr

too many men in that game

[scenic condor]

wdym "too many"

[vapid prairie]

Enjel wants one less Sampo in HSR to fix the gender balance in Masked Fools

[scenic condor]

they have 58 characters rn if we count Sunday. out of that 19 are male. that's roughly a 70/30 ratio

who is that "too many" xd

[toxic nebula]

that cutscene before phanthylia

Jing Yuan, dan heng, blade, yanqing in the same frame

[scenic condor]

jesus

thats like....too much

this is hella delusional xd

[toxic nebula]

yes

too many characters idc about

[scenic condor]

QQ

i feel so bad for u

having to endure this

for like one second

[toxic nebula]

I dont see march 7th as woman, in that frame only kafka the hsr dainsleif felt interesting

[scenic condor]

i dont mind women at all

i just mind the abysmal ratio that wuwa has

or that males are left out of genshin story nowadays

like completely left out

knich had like 2 minutes

[old summit]

I wonder how ariel feels about games that has 0 males at all, especially since its tied to lore

like Nikke, Blue Archive, Girls Frontline

[toxic nebula]

oh no not blue archive

mans tryna start world war 3

[scenic condor]

i dont mind

if a game is advertised as waifu-only from the get-go i go into it with that mindset

i loved hi3

never bothered me that males werent playable

what bothers me when it SEEMS like males are gonna be here and then it's just back to back waifus

also hi3 there was no MC simping cause we werent that present in the story

i HATE mc simping

when all the women want to get into my pants for no reason - at least make the men get into my pants too for balance but no

[marble sapphire]

i note that Nikke and Girls Frontline do have males if only as NPCs. I dont know about Nikke's but the latter's do play some notable roles as well. It's kind of why my reaction towards that dumb allegations of NTR or cuckolding drama for 2 just because an oldie T-Doll talked to a male NPC was just eye-rolling on my part because where the fuck were these complainers years ago eh? Of course, their spin-off Neural Cloud do have playable male dolls but in lesser numbers

[burnt mortar]

how do you feel about otome games

[scenic condor]

otome games are another thing

i would never play one cause they are boring af

and once again i dont like when the story is mostly about them simping for MC

and otome games are REALLY all about that

idc that they are all men

also i have to be a female mc which is nothing something i want to do

[old summit]

i dont play them kekw

I'll watch otome shows though if they are good and if the main point isnt bishounen chars

[marble sapphire]

a bit of an oxymoron there

[scenic condor]

villainess isekai trope animes are pog tho

they arent THAT otome

and sometimes the mc girl is quite good

[old summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589898165495529500/1302551982682411038/3.gif?ex=67288790&is=67273610&hm=fba50757f16ecfef062dffb24edb0d6c5c0d88729cedb0a8c3da19d8e0aefeb8&

[scenic condor]

how is this related to what i said

[old summit]

its just showing that new mechanic also is simping

[last nest]

No. Gbf still has prioritizes waifus pretty heavily over men both in number of releases and fanservice.

[burnt mortar]

bro

release size sure

you dont get to say fanservice when Belial's a literal freak

also got buck naked Beelzebub this year

[last nest]

Well I ment more waifus get to be into Mc while Husbandos not so much

So belial is in love/hate with Faa, Bubz also obsessed with Fa. Sandalphon is into Lucifer etct

[last nest]

Your Captain verse?

Also without Captian Kiana and co would still be stuck trying to take down Kebins uber shield lol

I do get why you are complaning but expecting even Genshin esq parity from Kuro was naive. They always were full in on waifu pandering in pgr. The best you can hope is that guys will start being into MC too like they are in pgr

[marble sapphire]

currently...its open enough such that it can be taken that way if one wants...

[last nest]

Yes but guys in PGR just directly flirt with you

Lee esp is very into Mc

[open copper]

Jiyan and XY are pretty much already heavy on pandering, honestly.

[last nest]

It's not really talked much about cause western husbando lovers mostly don't care/dislike mc pandering from my experieance but if Lee was a girl everyone would be proclaiming him best girl and canon waifu.

[scenic condor]

which was gigabuillshit kek

[last nest]

Yes for sure. I would say they are more pandering than say genshin husbandos but less than pgr

[scenic condor]

moon arc is where hi3 got ruined

[last nest]

True. I am still keking how 3 gods couldn't deal with 1 shield

[open copper]

It’s what happens when the Storyline Director leaves midway.

Honkai pretty much became a Colosseum where different writers duke-it out their versions of LORE.

[last nest]

Honkai lore went to shit after Otto died

[open copper]

Facchuan

[last nest]

They really should have swaped otto and Kevin in their respective placements in the story

Since they always planned to end on nobody is actually all that evil ending it wouldn't have mattered that Otto won in the end anyway

Maybe have otto backstab Kevin to built him up as a villain/gather sympathy for Kevin from public

[open copper]

Maybe not have that dumb “Honkai is Love” retcon and just have The Herscher of the End as final boss.

[scenic condor]

while being FULLY clothed

bitch pls

[last nest]

Prob with HOTE is that well, not enough time to introduce and build her up with Mars arc upcoming

[scenic condor]

if xy was female that outfit had a million cutouts

[last nest]

You would have to do something like - She shows up unexpectedly early by possessing Kiana, Otto+Kevin sacrifice their lives to seal her in the moon alongside Kiana. We get Mars arc and slow build up for final confrontation with Honkai

[toxic nebula]

tell that to Jiyan tanking wuwa revenue once again and kuro having to put youhou in his banner instead of shorekeeper

[scenic condor]

you say this like jiyan doesnt sell lol

he sells just fine on paper but he was the launch banner = all those free pulls funded a jiyan+sig easily and ppl opened wallets for yinlin

and reruns never really make that much money unless they are op broken shit

which is only jinhsi so far

and most ppl rolled sk and/or gonna save for cam

[last nest]

I wouldn't pay to much attention to sensory tower report. It's only mobile and this game barely runs on mobile

[scenic condor]

i hate this false narrative that males dont sell

[last nest]

Well we only had 1 male limited released(Xy was free so obv going to tank his sales)

[scenic condor]

sure, if you make infrequent male banners ppl can just save up so wont sell cuz no wallet needed. and if you dont include them in the story enough, regular ppl wont have any attachemnts to them

[last nest]

And tbh general isn't that interesting of a char nor is he all that strong

[scenic condor]

yep

it's just a self-fulfilling thing atp

but its okay

one less gacha for me to worry about

[last nest]

I want to see how the pirate dude will sell. That's a more apealing archtype to husbando lovers

[scenic condor]

managed to quit 2 again

so im down to 3

and thats just right

[last nest]

How you stil not quit genshin at this point

[scenic condor]

he wont sell if the appeal is to husbando lovers cause those ppl like me either quit alrdy or have tons of pulls saved up for the next male so they dont have to wallet

[scenic condor]

im attached to the game itself

it's low effort to upkeep and i have lots of males to play around with

sure male drought has been real nowadays but i can still do male-only abyss clears just fine

and natlan sucking ass gives me the opportunity to roll for cons on chars i wanted to in the past

[last nest]

Well if he won't sell we won't be seen many husbandos in the future than I suppose

[scenic condor]

as i said

self-fulfilling

prophecy

he needs to be included in the story in a meaningful way and have a strong kit to force waifu players to open wallets instead of saving for next waifu

and husbando players alrdy have pulls

i left my acc with nearly 200 pulls on it

cause i had nothing to roll for

the women are super boring in this game save for a select few

[last nest]

Idk. People were saying same shit about Fountain and than every waifu sold like hot cakes

[scenic condor]

what does that prove?

ooo

neuv also sold very well

and we didnt have any other male banner after that

wrio didnt sell well cuz the funds went to neuvi in the same damn patch

[last nest]

I was talking about waifu players here, I've seen a lot of the same talk about saving pulls for waifus

[scenic condor]

ah

no

i mean

for fontaine specifically

chiori sold bad

emilie sold bad

electro woman sold bad

[last nest]

Oh right, forgot her cause her kit was so bad

I quit after arrle and until natlan

Well in the end the issue is here that Kuro obv don't want to be taking risks

[scenic condor]

thats fine

it's just not a game for me anymore like this

which is also fine

i held onto hope longer than i expected

sk story was the tipping point

it was so goddamn trash

i couldnt believe it

the area was great tho

[last nest]

If Sk was a dude would you have thought diffrently?

[scenic condor]

probably my fave area

ofc

as i said before i hate simping

and while i understand sk's simpery to some degree

as a master-creator thing

memory-less MC getting attached to SK in like an hour

felt unreal

and forced

the entire story was just awkward

i really hate self-insert in general

and characters throwin themselves at me

sk's design also did not help

shes empy in some skimpy nightgown

and shit hair

and it's not like i have a problem with playing women or anything like that

it's just harder for me to swallow coom bait when it's a female

cause well...it doesnt do shit for me

but if there's a good story/personality to back it up i dont mind it

i enjoyed changli a lot

[last nest]

That's very fair point, I don't like otome gachas for the same reason

[scenic condor]

otome gachas are so bad

jesus

it's like theres no game for me truly

cause husbando games are all otome shit

god i hate them

but the 3 gachas im left with i think i'll stick with for a long long time

regardless of how their gender distribution goes

im attached to all of them for one reason or another

wuwa didnt manage to grab me enough for me to look past the lack of males

with combat feel being the only thing i liked

[open copper]

Males aren’t there to sell by themselves, they are there to attract a female/mainstream audience.

[open copper]

Better to just accept that and move on. There’s a reason why Genshin/HSR started with a mixed cast instead of like Honkai

[ionic quiver]

jiyan is absolutely tanking

if we add 6th June to 22nd july revenue

which is we know

the mommy money milkers

[open copper]

September is XY?

[ionic quiver]

ye

he was free

the best electro main DPS

so the pull goes to his weapon

now we just wait for October revenue

the lack of male is absolutely #1 homework for them

[open copper]

They would always go the Genshin/FGO route of typically 1-3 males per year.

[ionic quiver]

nah i disagree

FGO i understand

genshin is not 1-3 per year

[open copper]

Games that release a lot of males per year tend to be the ones that release a lot of units. Like GBF, and Star Rail too

[ionic quiver]

i mean i have data

to backup

im not spouting shits

[open copper]

I do believe you.

[ionic quiver]

and then inazuma drought with only ayato itto and gorou

[open copper]

[ionic quiver]

and thoma

[open copper]

Does a 4* count?

[ionic quiver]

yeah

and u dont want to know how many 4* release male in genshin 1.0 until the end of patch 1.x

if we talked about coomers bait stuff

that happen in inazma

and sumeru apparently

[open copper]

Sumeru?

[ionic quiver]

and then drought in natlan as yall see

let me recheck again

iirc female > male in sumeru

i dont really remember sumeru that was ass

[open copper]

Sumeru had 4 males (five stars), so that was above average. (If you exclude launch)

[ionic quiver]

dont really wanna know

but ye

if u said that genshin relesae 1-3 males per year its just misleading

5* males however

u are right

gaming is one of the instances that i said

should be 5*

but making it 4*

make me wondered what happen

same with ororon

but in ororon cases too many 5* around

and he is a 5* quality

design based and lore

[open copper]

I am sure that the Ororon case was Executive stuff.

[ionic quiver]

and WuWa is learning from genshin sales in inazuma

cause lets be fucking real

genshin revenue from 1.0 start to the end of 1.x

is not that wonderful

compare to the number they had right now

that start on inazuma

where the coomers bait start coming with ayaka raiden miko

yelan

2.0 till 2.7

u cant blame other gacha game learning from them after they saw the fantastic monthyl revenue taken from mobile around was $100M

and then sumeru wasnt that high except nahida and nilou had decent numbers

[open copper]

I mean, lots of females was a thing before Genshin. That was always the industry trend

[ionic quiver]

yeah thats the trend

at this point if WuWa want to go for coomers bait, sure but make them really stand out

want ur male to be sell out? look at neuvilette

unlogical number in his kits

[open copper]

Kinich sold better than Mualani despite clunky kit, so you can’t count just on that.
In the end, it’s always speculation.

(Though why Mihoyo invested so much on Mualani was beyond me, she even got a animated short.)

[ionic quiver]

the only banner that people regret for not pulling and still has some insane number in fontaine is neuvilette

lets remove the standard because thats misleading

look at this numbers

[open copper]

Nah, the most interesting part is how the bottom 5 is almost all Fontaine units

That region flopped badly

[ionic quiver]

u mean inazuma

fontaine has one of the highest sales in region

while the lowest one is sumeru

inazuma holding the most popular

i mean the data talk

male do sell well

almost 92% ownage of kazuha

and 87% of zhongli havers

the only problem with WuWa they tunnel vision

girl = sell well is not really the case

how u package ur character

is REALLY the case

u can use the same logic with raiden vs furina

why tf people pull more on furina than raiden

me myself also try to C6 furina but my raiden is C0

sometimes u ask urself this u get the answer

now use this in WuWa

why do people pull more on jinhsi

and why do yinlin number close to jiyan

yada yada yada

[last nest]

Ironic case kazuha og banner bombed lol

Only when people figured out he is omega broken he started selling well

[ionic quiver]

the brainrot people skip

the one who understand numbers

pull

the no choice people skip

[last nest]

Furina has ungodly broken kit

Also better story and suffering bait

[ionic quiver]

Raiden C0 actually compareable with furina C0 overall

my furina is C2 so she does better than raiden in term of damage overall

[last nest]

Plus first limited waifu in a year

[ionic quiver]

and furina free up the pyro combo for me

to put it on raiden

so its a win win solution

and they package furina story better than raiden like 10 times

i think WuWa designer actually know this right

[last nest]

Raiden got hard done by her archon quest being one act shorter and her not having that big of a presence in it

[ionic quiver]

precisely

sidetracked by signora

its not hard to think of it right?

[last nest]

Her story quest 2 did a lot to rectify those issues

[ionic quiver]

WuWa designer surely will research this already right?

and they ACTUALLY play the game right?

not that hard if u think about it

altho WuWa QoL is batshit insane than genshin hands down

1.4 update wet me a bit in QoL

[last nest]

Will see with 2.0

1.4 is going to be more of filler patch

Wuwa needs to nail next region to prosper

[ionic quiver]

nah they need to nail everything

1.3 is a good nail but not enough nail

next one will be how WuWa handle events

1.4 events must be the one that end the patch with " events in WuWa is really nice and good "

[marble sapphire]

1.3 is a bit of a plot patch while they say 1.4 seems to be event focused but for illusive realm

their current pace after 1.0 is indeed like 1.1 and 1.3 are plot/new region patches, 1.2 and 1.4 are event focused

[marble sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS0XD_nEtdw

double rerun already?

[zealous grove]

Looks like the leak of Jinshi and Zhezhi will rerun together is not far off.

[ionic quiver]

sekka hows the jinhsi skins rumours?

is that really happening in 2.0?

[zealous grove]

Dunno honestly, there's no updates on that in the leaks subreddit that I usually check.

[ionic quiver]

hmm

i prefer they do skins later on

[marble sapphire]

no skin announcement so...

[ionic quiver]

i dont have enough

i need 2 more welkin

to have it

[marble sapphire]

hmm, they have an Avengers assemble kind of scene in trailer, wonder what's gonna happen

[weak jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/524772653308051496.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[zealous grove]

[scenic condor]

yeah i accepted it and im out. have fun with all the booba bois

[scenic condor]

how many times do i have to explain why jiyan is not "selling"

jesus

doesnt matter now i

[ionic quiver]

hey it was sarcasm sentences

look at the

[last nest]

Skin is definitely coming

There was a picture on wuwa leaks

[old summit]

honestly

i hope the gme releases more males

it means less money i gotta spend

kekw

unless they are like sss tier

gameplay/meta wise

[last nest]

You can buy additional Welkin's up to 180 days

They stack

The skin is prob coming in 2.0 along with Jinhsi rerun

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1853346513516470664 I guess her thighs are justified what with being a courier...

given the setting + occupation, that means she stars in notDeath Stranding

[last nest]

Gues this confirms that Rinacitia will be carnival themed

Hopefully it's Italy/Spain rather than France

[open copper]

Rinascita Beta should come with a Model Dump, right?

[last nest]

I imagine yes.

[open copper]

New girl looks like a FE Engage character.
Guess the people who complained about Black/White/Red color schemes won.