#Punishing: Gray Raven

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muted solar
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With that hair

proven marten
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which one HoSHmm

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the blonde?

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i mean it's a pic in the office

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so maybe thats why

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but businessman in a basic white tee

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no way

muted solar
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Both

proven marten
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found it

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this is the 'most recent'

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and this is bareface no makeup nothing

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old ass skin

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alr done now

muted solar
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Glow down

proven marten
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i mean

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aging

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plus this is after a stressed af week

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those bags under my eyes omfg

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anyway

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now im deleting all this

muted solar
proven marten
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before discord steals it

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this is such a peak ult

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truly

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kamui boy outdid himself with this skin

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doesnt even look like kamui but still

supple vine
proven marten
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buy a jade roll

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put it into freezer overnight

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morning you just go over your face with for a couple mins from your chin towards your cheeks and from your noise outward towards cheekcs too

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dont pull too aggressively

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i dont believe in eyecreams and shit

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also vitamin D and use spf cuz ur fkin white

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it's 2026

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basic skincare is not even gay anymore

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and it's relatively inexpensive and time efficient

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and you'll be grateful when you got older

supple vine
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yea just about all i do is a simple face wash

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i should do more

proven marten
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ye we are men

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it's enough for us

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usually

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but as we age

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we gotta do a bit more

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just buy spf

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buy a good moisturizer

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and a jade roll

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thats all

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face cleanser gel also a good option if you have oily skin - in that case just water might not get all the dirt

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and putting moisturizer over dirt is baaad

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like just basic drug store stuff

muted solar
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what do ariel work as

proven marten
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tf are these questions

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i work in contract management

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finance basically

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but i rlly should switch jobs soon

supple vine
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tldr ari is a catch

proven marten
supple vine
proven marten
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i have too high expectations

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also i dont like to date younger

muted solar
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switching jobs at 30

proven marten
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?

supple vine
proven marten
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generally you dont wanna stay at the same job for more than 3 years

supple vine
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im probs forced to switch

proven marten
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unless you are fully satisfied with the pay

muted solar
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a bit late

proven marten
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huh

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why would it be late

muted solar
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sry

proven marten
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im not saying im switching profession

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just go to a diff company

muted solar
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i am confused on switching profession

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misunderstood

proven marten
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ah

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ye no that would be a bit too late prolly

muted solar
proven marten
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going back to uni or some shit

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ew

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no

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im dying as an office bitch probably

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crunching numbers

supple vine
proven marten
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ah

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okay

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fair

supple vine
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bc we interchange job with perfession

proven marten
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switching company then

supple vine
proven marten
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i need better fucking pay

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if i wanna have kids

muted solar
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kids

proven marten
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in the next couple of years

muted solar
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rich

proven marten
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my gf is slowly giving up on men

proven marten
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so we are etching closer to lavender marriage

muted solar
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ariel has gf and can play gachas

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impossible

proven marten
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gf as in girl friend

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not waifu

muted solar
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i know

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impossible

proven marten
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just making it clear WheezeTao

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before i get accused of being fake gay

supple vine
muted solar
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i misunderstood again

proven marten
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i just want 2 kids

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thats all

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and sadly i need a damn female for that

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would have been easier if i was a lesbian ig WheezeTao

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but the thought of that ew

muted solar
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lesbian marriage

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gay marriage

proven marten
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idc abt marriage really

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but the legal benefits are undeniable sadly

muted solar
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Like you want trump to step down

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No

proven marten
muted solar
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How to said, it's like your opinion cannot inspire the world to do the thing you want to change

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Myles phrase it for me

supple vine
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?

supple vine
muted solar
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Ya

supple vine
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the main thing that allows injustice isn't fervor for autocracy its the apathy of everyday people who don't state their opinions even though they are the silent majority

proven marten
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yep

muted solar
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I leak my personality by that statement

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Time to eeep

proven marten
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**SS Kamui ** PSA: dont spam ult right after hold dodges let him finish the spin animation or you wont have enough orbs cuz ur fkin cope SS players

opener Fire/Plasma: Fire/Plasma
๐Ÿ”ต ๐ŸŸก ๐Ÿ”ด ๐Ÿ”ด hold basic ULT
hold ๐ŸŸก hold dodge ULT ๐Ÿ”ต swap

loop Fire:
๐ŸŸก ๐Ÿ”ด hold basic ๐Ÿ”ด ULT
hold ๐ŸŸก hold dodge ULT
๐Ÿ”ต hold ๐ŸŸก hold dodge ULT ๐Ÿ”ต swap

loop Plasma:
๐ŸŸก ๐Ÿ”ด hold basic ๐Ÿ”ด ULT
hold ๐ŸŸก hold dodge ULT
๐Ÿ”ต hold ๐ŸŸก ULT
hold ๐ŸŸก hold dodge ULT ๐Ÿ”ต swap

IMPORTANT: when you do hold dodge before the last ult for each rot make sure you let the uppercut animation play a little so matrix procs and you get some orbs back. doesnt have to be the last ult necessarily but one of them, last ult is just convenient to do cuz ur out of amp timer by then anyway usually

also if you are poor and have no dlt you have to skip the 3rd ult on the first loop rot and you can only do it from the 2nd loop rot (so 3rd swapin), but like just get the dlt pls. at this point dlt is pretty much a requirement on modern frames

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@supple vine @frigid sorrel @muted solar since none of you went for ss3 kamui im not bothering with rotations for ss3+

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and im assuming you are able to do lilith and nana rots since those have not changed from previous plasma setup, kamui just replaced pyro

proven marten
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did anyone even try this PepeHands

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silent ass chat

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WAKE THE FUCK UP

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also full mob wz on eu this week

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who tf cooked this

supple vine
supple vine
proven marten
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what the fuck man

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that fire score is ABYSMAL

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sss vera solo with zero swaps and off ele A rank tank+amp should be doing more than that WheezeTao

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let alone your full team with a breaker

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we seriously need to do a live wz session

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cuz that is some devious shit

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also your vera should be running 2guin harmo instead of cot

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shes not the main dps anymore

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im gonna do a testrun

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for swapless vera

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just to see WheezeTao

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tho i fkin forgot how to do solo vera

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can she even solo

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nvm

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i really dunno how to solo vera WheezeTao

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oh she has to holdbasic pre-ult

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wow

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that generates 3 reds

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insane

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and you cant cancel any cores

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wtf

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this is some big ass cope

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jesus WheezeTao

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swapless vera WheezeTao

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this was some next level shit

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and this is on legend so hero should be more paper even

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now i wanna try hyperlee

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oh i just saw

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i got whale bracketed

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rip

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top gigawhel of EU

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then my favorite guildie nemesis

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i can beat that one

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and one more high skill dude

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i can maybe retain

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gonna be maldy

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the fact that hyperreal is so old that it barely makes a difference WheezeTao

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yea theres some difference

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this was pre-nerf rot kamui which doesnt even work anymore

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so i missed out on a full swap

proven marten
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alpha is not looking good

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well as good as expected tbh

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utter trash on ss

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and ss3 looks pretty bad too

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so to nobody's surprise shes another sss or bust attacker woooo

proven marten
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@supple vine wake up and hold my hand

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cuz i wanna murder kuro

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for being fucking shitholes

supple vine
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I just woke up

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Kuro why can't we have nice attackers

proven marten
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but ye going forward i recommend skipping any attacker

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unless you can commit to SSS

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cuz they are just ded otherwise

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and with breakers...look what happened to lucia

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even sss died

proven marten
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@supple vine it's selena sp delay practice week again boyo

supple vine
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Big shit came up irl

proven marten
proven marten
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im thoroughly bored by this frame

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like this is just more of the same

muted solar
proven marten
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shes sss or bust

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but like ur not even playing and running around with s0 shit so atp do whatever ๐Ÿคฃ

proven marten
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dear god shes a flop

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well not really her fault more like breakreless ele flop

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this is full s+ team

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s+ kamui in comparison

proven marten
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Stream Recap :
Alpha BP Skin
Alpha SFX Skin (Serie)
Veronica SFX Skin (Serie)

Shrouded Requiem Gamemode

Free SFX coating up to Vera
Free selector up to Ishmael

Babylonia update
SKK Coating

Liv Gacha Skin

PPC reward increase

New Monthly Pass

General animation update for gacha and QoL

Future summer skins:
Nirvatia Skin
Teddy Skin
Hanying Skin
Bianca Skin
Selena Skin

Future new frames:
Karenina
Helentine
Adelyde
Leia

Date a Live collab

Online concert

Hyperploom fig 1/6

redeem codes :

NEWALPHA0602
FOSANNIVERSARY

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@supple vine @frigid sorrel @muted solar

frigid sorrel
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Date a live? Wtf

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Unless alpha is free are we getting 3 limiteds in a row? That's crazy

proven marten
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we know that alrdy lol

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shes phylotree

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full limited

frigid sorrel
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Karen than?

proven marten
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most frames we get are not limited

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we only have liv as limited so far

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outside collab shit

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alpha will be our 2nd

frigid sorrel
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Idk, no time to save at all now

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This is bad

proven marten
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for higher ranks, definitely not

frigid sorrel
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Might have to skip Karen again lol

proven marten
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so just gotta pick carefully

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alpha stayed sss or bust

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so shes an easy skip if you cant afford that

frigid sorrel
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What, really?

proven marten
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yeah

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shes bianca 2.0

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attacker curse

frigid sorrel
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So if I pull her ss3 she doesn't make a team?

proven marten
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breakerless elements just suck

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and when the inevitable ice breaker will show up

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she will get the boot

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just like pyro

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or bianca

frigid sorrel
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Crazy. Guess I'll skip than

proven marten
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unless you sss'd the breaker

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then you can keep them around

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but without sss tank/breaker, you usually cant sustain a logn enough rot

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without swap -3cd

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and everybody has access to wanshi

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so same case as with kamui

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if no sss kamui you will have to run wata kamui + amp

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i'll check back on alpha when she debuts

frigid sorrel
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So for ice I just stay with teddi main dps for now?

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Cause I am not pulling alpha sss I am not her simp

proven marten
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depends on how much u like alpha

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she will go into the team on ss too

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for now

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this is only for the future

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when breaker comes

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so up to u

frigid sorrel
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Can I skip her ss3 than?

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And just use her ss

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I need the puls for Liv gacha skin

proven marten
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nobody attacker good on ss anymore

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but probably she will still be better than wanshi+teddy duo dps with off-ele breaker qte bot

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i'll get back to you on this

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we have to see her live

frigid sorrel
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Sure. Do we know Karen?

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What she doing

proven marten
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no we dont know anything

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they never reveal it

frigid sorrel
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I hope she isn't a breaker

proven marten
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logically she should be fire attacker or ice breaker

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ice breaker would be nice so she can pair with teddy

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for lore

frigid sorrel
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But tbh I kind of don't really care much for new cast outside of the free char lol

proven marten
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ye nobody does

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leia looks like a liv skin

frigid sorrel
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And the free one is just fem rover lol

proven marten
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yep

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and adelyde is mecha phrolova

frigid sorrel
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Leia is strange, she is like from different game

proven marten
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shes strange bc she existed before

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just got a random ass redesign

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shhe looks like a wuwa character now

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with the half leg outfit

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she also just looks like a summer skin

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but im not judging

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i know better than to make judgements based on 1 art

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i'll see gameplay

frigid sorrel
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Well, I guess I can skip ss3 most of them

proven marten
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i mean

frigid sorrel
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Other than breakers

proven marten
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u have no intention of ranking

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so

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ye

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but amps

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amps have always been sss or ss

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ss3 on amps was never too good

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free coating up to vera patch is nice, i can complete my desperado collection

frigid sorrel
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Idk what I chose with free selector. Is sss Ishmael good?

proven marten
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yes

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go sss ish

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absolutely

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shes a breaker now remember

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for void

frigid sorrel
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It would take 2 selectors for that for me

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Or I can get ss3 nanami

proven marten
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used blue banner alrdy?

frigid sorrel
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Unless their is a new one?

proven marten
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no

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this is half anni

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reset is on anni

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oh wait you dont have wanshi sss still?

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well

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then your ice situation is gonna be different

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how are you even playing ice like this

frigid sorrel
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I spent my tickets to get wata to sss instead

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And luna

proven marten
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but they are in bp

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wanshi isnt

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anw

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hmm

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ig for current ice it's not the worst thing ever cuz teddy double full rot is long enough

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so you dont feel the lack of swap cd

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either way just grab the selector and we can get back to the decision later

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we will know more about the next unit then

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i pray for one of these to be a fucking A rank already

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bc i cant keep up

frigid sorrel
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Not!phrolova maybe?

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She looks kind of basic

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What coating would you recommend for the free one?

proven marten
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i also dont know what you have alrdy

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lemme look at ur huaxu

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also for the love of god

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@frigid sorrel HOW THE HELL IS YOUR NIRV AND VERA STILL UNLEVELED. kamui too

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are you even playing this game? WheezeTao

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like why are we worrying about pulling for ss3 and whatnot when ur acc aint even being played

frigid sorrel
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I was playing on mobile until recently that's why

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But I bought new SSD

kindred flame
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oh thats nice

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nice hat fatrisa

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damn thats hot Lewd1

proven marten
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i really hope her skin changes the colors

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cuz the skin itself is still just red white black

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so nothing changed from base

proven marten
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overall im pretty disappointed

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karen hype + 3 random bitches + datealive romance slop probably

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wuwaificiation really is here

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honestly i dont think i can call pgr f2p friendly anymore

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with only S ranks now

frigid sorrel
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Pgr stoped being ftp freindly when they reduced A ranks so much

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For DAL i thinkj it's just going to be little story instead of romance slop

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The themes of DAL are just so in contrast with PGR

supple vine
kindred flame
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its so peak

kindred flame
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when i was a wee lad i loved esdeath KEKHands

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if only Azur lane wasnt so bad to play ๐Ÿ˜”

muted solar
steady pagoda
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alright, guess it's about time i start the game
anything for bad bitches with twin tails... im one of you now

proven marten
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another f2p coper in da house

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you have a week to get kamui

muted solar
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welcome for krast

proven marten
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did you do something complimentworthy?

steady pagoda
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My id 22745729

proven marten
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do i want to

steady pagoda
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(Do not its horrible)

proven marten
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what server are u

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oo

steady pagoda
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NA

proven marten
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ah

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alr

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bookmarked ur huaxu too

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in case u need advice

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but like

proven marten
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this is the correct build

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he just needs sig

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and SS from pain cage skulls eventually

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ss+sig kamui is perfectly serviceable

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but you need sig

steady pagoda
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Sig will be pulled eventually
Im just not spending my black cards on it

proven marten
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luckily for you sig can be pulled anytime

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so no rush

steady pagoda
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Prioritizing chars rn

proven marten
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tbh

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you do seem like a capable normal person

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who can read

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and follow advice

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so im not that worried

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oh and you have ros alrdy too??

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wtf

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did you do blue banner for her?

steady pagoda
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Really did think the build is ass tho
Cuz no resonance or whatever its called

proven marten
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yes

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no reso

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but ur a beginner

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it's understandable

steady pagoda
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Also none of the selectors are used

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Holding them

proven marten
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dont even know what selectors those are

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but if u need advice lmk

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where tf did u get the rosetta from?

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oh wait we had wish banner didnt we

steady pagoda
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Blue banner

proven marten
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nice

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good choice

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omg

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did you research?

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or just randomly liked her

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cuz she is definitely the only pick from there ๐Ÿ˜„

steady pagoda
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Research
I would rather not brick my account

proven marten
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thank fuck

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omg

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A CAPABLE PERSON

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IN MY PGR CHAT

steady pagoda
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And she seems ok
Also clanker waifu

proven marten
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im dying

proven marten
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ofc shes ok

steady pagoda
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Idk how to feel about her gameplay tho

proven marten
steady pagoda
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Cutscene ahh

proven marten
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you do realize

proven marten
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welcome to pgr

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where we spam timestop cutscenes all day

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but ye ros is a lot less interesting than kamui

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she doesnt really have any optimizations

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kamui has like 5 different rotations

steady pagoda
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Byeah hf trashing my 2 day account
I got a lecture to sit through

proven marten
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this is me if u wanna feast ur eyes of sss whel acc Lewd

proven marten
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๐Ÿ‘

supple vine
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Nothing but notes for me MemeTier

proven marten
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moreover if i give you a list you often just dont even do whats on it

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anyway. i read thru alpha v4

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girl is DEAD

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below sss

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as attackers should be

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ss3 is viable until ice breaker comes but idk if you want to pull ss3 unit that will die potentially pretty fast

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ss0 is unplayable garbage

supple vine
proven marten
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i just gave the fair warning

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ss0 will not go into your current ice or burn team

supple vine
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yea im not pulling her to use

proven marten
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tho in your case since your vero is ss only

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she might just go into your burn team but ehh

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idk

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you have sss nana

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and shes your burn carry

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ss alpha is just shit to play

supple vine
proven marten
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but i didnt bother you with it

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cuz ur not a minmaxer anyway

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so u can keep alisa

supple vine
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i like how my phys plays rn anyway

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my brain would probs break trying to change it at this point

proven marten
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your phys probably plays wrong

supple vine
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๐Ÿคก

proven marten
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i'd bet

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but not my problem

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i offered to help but u didnt take it

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cuz ur busy

supple vine
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its the team im the least bad at

supple vine
proven marten
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if ur not strained for vouchers

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i'd attempt to sss hanying

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over the months

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from bp and voucher

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but only if you can afford it

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while finishing up sss nirv

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sss nirv is top prio

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since shes your void dps WheezeTao

muted solar
steady pagoda
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i see the gathering wives epidemic is rampant here too... monkaOMEGA

proven marten
proven marten
steady pagoda
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i guess it sells

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still put off by it doe, but i guess it's fair for lucia

proven marten
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before that the romance part wastn as pushed

steady pagoda
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as expected

proven marten
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but hey at least theres equality

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you can date the guys too

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lee is a huge HUGE simp

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but i dont rlly engage with this part of the game, and you dont really have to. it's part of the babylonia "open" world thingy which can be fully ignored

steady pagoda
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let me date kurumi
and my life is yours kuro

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I only engaged with it cuz of the pulls, need every last bit as a frugal F2P

muted solar
proven marten
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skip alpha if you cant sss

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tho for you henni it doesnt fucking matter

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you have like s0 characters WheezeTao you can do whatever i suppose

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baseline is this: alpha's kit needs ss3 to function properly. and sss to get a spot on the team after ice breaker comes (otherwise shes kicked for sss wanshi)

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so ss3 alpha will work until that time

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but since shes pylotree limited bullshit you cant just get her to sss later easily

steady pagoda
proven marten
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all dead and all have freely obtainable modern alternatives

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i still havent used this one, just keeping it until i have everyone but 1 and then pick that last one for complete collection

steady pagoda
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assumed so

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anyways, kamui made the game a joke as expected
even without sig he cooks, might honestly go for it tho
surely i win the 80%

proven marten
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grab the free chars

proven marten
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but yes kamui is really really strong

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s0 is pretty dysfunctional

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but ss is a great baseline

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and you can get ss freely from pain cage skulls

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you can hold off on sig for now

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it's not going anywhere

steady pagoda
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yeah i saw that, i wonder how many shards you can get per month from it

proven marten
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depends on the ppc difficulty and the max score

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60 per week for ult ppc

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for 1.8m score

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which is the standard endgame

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500 skulls for S to SS for 1 char

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so that would be 9 weeks of max score

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but you get a ton of a skulls from clearing bosses an all difficulties for the first time

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including all the old bosses that have been taken out from rotation (which you can permanently challenge anytime)

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so that gives a VERY nice head start, easily 3-4 SS worth of skulls in there

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but for you, doing 1.8m ult ppc is very far away

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if you have the pulls you can throw a couple more on kamui before he goes

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oh yeah. make sure you ONLY PULL THEMED BANNER @steady pagoda

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never touch any banner that has "fate" in it

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dont touch arrival either

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this is all you pull on

steady pagoda
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fate i knew about, arrival however is new to me

proven marten
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arrival is the rerun banner

steady pagoda
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i guess units on there just not worth it,
you prefer to pull the new limiteds

proven marten
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but unlike all the other banners

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arrival is not 100%

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it's 80/20

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so it's a scam banner

proven marten
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and collab units

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everybody else is "standard"

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next patch brings us our 2nd limited char

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who you can freely skip cuz flop ass bitchhhhh

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this banner is also 100% and you can select the rateup

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but the pity doesnt carry over to normal themed, only to other wish banner

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and you wont have the pulls to get to 60 in time

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probably

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so i would skip this too

steady pagoda
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also blue tickets can be hoarded right, not really worth using after the 40 pity banner

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save them for it's next rerun right

proven marten
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yes you hoard blue tickets

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for yearly reset

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then you can select another S rank and use it on that

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and repeat

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next reset should be in 6 months or so

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when anni rolls around

steady pagoda
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why'd they make this shit so confusing,.

proven marten
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bc it's ancient game

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with the WORST ui imaginable

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and this is like after multiple reworks xd

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tbh current patch was a dream patch to start on for a non f2p

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for f2p it's whatever cuz u cant afford wish banners...ever

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tho if you started earlier in the patch i would have said to use wish banner too cuz alpha is an easy skip

steady pagoda
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On who doe

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I know a couple of the chars on there are free

proven marten
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so gotta get started somewhere

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next patch is gonna be lots of ice shill cuz new ice frame

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but ice is just wanshi+teddy and bot are free xd

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you need a partner for kamui

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cuz he cant solo forever

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especially on low ranks

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so i'd prolly have you get vera

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and wata is free to round out the team

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but like all this "free" stuff is also time, ranking them up is also time cuz vouchers and skulls. and ur f2p so your voucher income will be slow

steady pagoda
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Well, no matter

proven marten
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ye dont touch wish banner

steady pagoda
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All that matters is the goth edgy baddie

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Probably selecting vera doe, seems no brainer

proven marten
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ofc

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but

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u cant afford wish banner xd

steady pagoda
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Also lilith works too doesnt she

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And shes free

proven marten
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lilith is dark

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not fire

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but lilith works for plasma kamui

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cuz lilith is also plasma

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every frame has an element (fire) and an affix (plasma)

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affixes are basically fancy evolutions of base elements

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and a way for the game to give characters wider coverage and longevity

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elements can buff affixes but affixes cant buff elements

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so plasma is lightning's evolution

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so lightning buffs can buff plasma

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but plasma cant buff lightning

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get it?

steady pagoda
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So by that logic the free feral would work too

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Shes lightning buffer

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Last i saw

proven marten
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plasma's condition is that the plasma battery has to be charged up by someone and then activated. and then you have 12s to do plasma dmg and after that the battery expires

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currently lilith is our only battery charger, which means she is instrumental to the team

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without her kamui will just do fire dmg

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the last member of this team is nanami startrail

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with lack of a strong enough attacker, breakers take on the dps role so they usually prefer to run a tank who will carry the tank equipment so they dont have to, but since you will not do weapon resonance for a long time, this is less of a concern to you

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nanami's lightning shred also stacks with kamui's plasma shred for some goddamn reason so it makes for a godly combo

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and while nanami is available permanently from the thunderbolt research banner (which is at the thunderbolt manual that gave you cw and feral) so you could pull for her there when you can afford to you should NOT because we will get a free selector next patch up to ishmael so you can pick up nanami from that. she also moonlights as your burn affix tank/dps, not just lightning so she will be a great pickup

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so with all this said, in theory if you were to pull on the wish banner you'd pull vera geiravor indeed

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with this you'd have a footing in multiple content

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but you dont have the pulls for it as a f2p so this is just in theory ๐Ÿ˜„

steady pagoda
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F2P life may be a detriment

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But we make do with what we have

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All for her at the end of the day

proven marten
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f2p is doable if all you care for is collection

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and just hanging around in like...leader/hero rank maximum

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but ye it's harder nowadays than before

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the old schedule of 1 free 1 paid patch is gone

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without significant adjustment to the income system

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so while f2ps in the past were able to get every new S rank+sig guaranteed, sig is not rlly possible anymore unless you sacc

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not to mention wep resos

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heck for me as a whel gearing is an issue now

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bc they forgot to fkin adjust the serum income WheezeTao WheezeTao

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so i just dont have enough stamina to make the usual 3-4 sets per new char

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which is why many of us have given up on ppc gear optimization

steady pagoda
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Yeah this shit ahh

steady pagoda
steady pagoda
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I assume all these are worthless?
theres far too many selectors in this game man

frigid sorrel
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wdym, all of this is vital fodder

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you never have enough of weapons in this game for our god and master DLT

steady pagoda
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Fodder for 6* shards right?
How much do they give each, 150?

frigid sorrel
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no. for wepon resonanse thingy

proven marten
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do NOT scrap 6* weps for shards. EVER.

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wep shards we obtain from norman that resets every 2 weeks on wednesdays

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but i doubt you can do norman yet cuz u dont have enough teams for it. it needs 4 teams (or at least 4 strong characters who can solo, cuz the mode is paper in itself)

steady pagoda
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assumed there would be multi team content
but 4 teams seems steep

proven marten
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norman is 4

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wz is 1 but

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this is just an illusion

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in pgr you need to build a team for every element and affix eventually

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bc ye sure u can re-use the chars and whatnot on any warzone stage, they all have different buffs and this isnt genshin/hsr where the buffs are a light suggestion ๐Ÿ˜„

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if you dont use them ur cooked

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so u obviously wanna match the team to the buff element

steady pagoda
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well i think im good on fire and dark
ice should be accessible with the free units, rest idk about

proven marten
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cw and feral gives you lightning (albeit a shitty outdated one), and nanami will take over next patch with the free selector

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so the only thing you dont really shit for is phys (alisa is free but old)

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affix you can worry abt later xd

steady pagoda
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lots of free units, but with how dupe dependent they inevitably are...
i'll have to doubt that generosity

proven marten
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it's time

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they are free and their rankups are free too

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it's just a lot of time

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time to get enough dorm coins, vouchers, ppc skulls

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if you buy bp then it speeds it up a bit with like double the voucher income + gives you 15 extra shards of choice each patch

steady pagoda
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thankfully im patient,
however long it takes for the collab

proven marten
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all good

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im just sayin lots of stuff is free it's just time

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๐Ÿ˜„

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besides if ur not looking to compete in legend then u dont need to aim for sss teams and shit

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and that alrdy makes it faster

steady pagoda
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idc if i'll stick with the game long term
so i won't resort to spending

proven marten
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all good

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is what i would say usually

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but in pgr i truly cant imagine coping with f2p

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there are some gods who did low rank runs . idk how they can handle it

steady pagoda
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consider it a challenge run
how ball bustlingly hard can i make the game for myself

proven marten
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but thats juts me bc i know how sss feels like

steady pagoda
proven marten
steady pagoda
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probably won't have an sss for long time

proven marten
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also sss is not necessarily easier

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there are some chars who become harder to play with high ranks

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in exchange for like 3x the damage

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this bitch was a prime example

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wanna say rest in peace girl but i hope ur BURNING IN HELL

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fkass arthritis character

steady pagoda
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dont think im at a point where rotations are a worry

proven marten
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definitely not

steady pagoda
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just qte spam with my qte bot

proven marten
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i just wanted to dispel the notion that high rank = easier gameplay

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kurumi is 99% gonna be a dps

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collab chars are dpses

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the only exception was the nier collab but we got 3 of them and they formed a team together so thats different

steady pagoda
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damn right she is,
i need that za warudo timestop gameplay

frigid sorrel
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obv I only played her at ss

proven marten
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until i got her sss

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tho even before that. her lack of super armor on her core sword slashes

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ugh

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nasty shit

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but sss qu is the thing of nightmares

frigid sorrel
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@proven marten So final opinion on Alpha for my account from you?

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I also could get Kamui to SS3 if I am skiping Alpha

proven marten
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and yes kamui ss3 is great

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breaker invest is always the most worth

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one step closer to sss

frigid sorrel
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than I just get ss3 kamui and skip alpha to get Liv skin

proven marten
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i approve that plan

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tho

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i hope that liv is sss

frigid sorrel
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Cause like - I like Alpha but she isn't one of my main girls

proven marten
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cuz shes gonna suffer the same fate

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as soon as lightning breaker shows up

frigid sorrel
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like I did with Bianca

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Selector+blue banner prob

proven marten
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later when?

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shes

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never gonna be

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in selector

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or blue banner

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shes limited

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like alpha

frigid sorrel
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ohh right. forgot she is limited

proven marten
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yep shes just as shit of a unit as alpha

frigid sorrel
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Well, it's fine

proven marten
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hell shes even worse

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ss liv barely holds up next to sss nana

frigid sorrel
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Well I have ss3 liv who is noticebly better than my ss nana lol

proven marten
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she only gets to live bc lightning has no amp WheezeTao

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if lightning had a teddy liv would be dead af

proven marten
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yikes

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everybody will be kicked from that team then

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when lightning breaker comes

frigid sorrel
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Actually - IS alpha deadge if my Wanshi is only ss3?

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Cause I am not getting him to sss any time soon as I prioritise Nirvatia

proven marten
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same thing applies

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when ice breaker comes

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you will kick non-sss alpha

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and non-sss wanshi

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replace them with ice breaker + sss tank

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which is wata i guess for you

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until then, ss3 alpha will suffice

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but i personally advise against it

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your main goal should be to get an sss breaker. any of them

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at some point

frigid sorrel
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Since i have ss3 live i need 2 copies of her to get her to sss

proven marten
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yes

frigid sorrel
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when she reruns on anni

proven marten
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she reruns next patch

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limiteds rerun every 6 months

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all of them

frigid sorrel
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hmm, but I imagine ss3 kamui is still better invest?

proven marten
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of course

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breaker invest >> everything else

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you get 1 sss breaker then you force them into every team

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ice meta rn is wanshi teddy + breaker qte bot

frigid sorrel
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wait, wouldn't it make seinse to just get 1 breaker to sss than and not pull others

proven marten
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as in skip all other breakers?

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no

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it's a stepping stone

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not the destination

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same how tanks were

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sss breaker can sub in as a qte bot until you get the respective element's breaker

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but it will not replace an actual matching ele breaker

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bc it cant shred that ele for you

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it can only offer general shred

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-3 swap cd

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and ofc the x2 qte stacks + hypermatrix which is the main point of an off-ele breaker qte bot

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this is the exact same situation as amps were years ago when they first showed up

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we put empy into everything

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bc of that sss amp passive

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and then we got kaleido for free so then everybody really had access to sss amp

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i hope they give us a free breaker too at some point

frigid sorrel
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ahh wtf, I can still jsut use ss3 liv with breaker as duel dps or something

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Don't have ability to sss her right now

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(and can't be skiping skin that gorgues anyway)

proven marten
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these attackers are all designed the same. sss or kick when breaker shows up

frigid sorrel
proven marten
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same logic applies to alpha then

frigid sorrel
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liv is my waifu unlike alpha

proven marten
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shoulda gotten her to sss then

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bad simp smh

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look at me i got vera to sss3 the patch before she fkin died

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my dedication was rewarded with "you are no longer allowed to do dmg"

frigid sorrel
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wait how is vera dead?

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isn't the team Camui+Wata+vera?

proven marten
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shes not dead

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her damage is

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and no

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the team is kamui pyro vera

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on my invest

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in this team vera holds support sets

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so she can only do 1rot

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which makes her sss3 borderline useless

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it's still really strong for darkflow ofc where shes still 3rotating but for fire it's no longer a thing

frigid sorrel
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down to 17k now for bc. Thankfully skiping Alpha covers this

proven marten
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my fault rlly i should have committed to it on her debut

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but it is what it is now

proven marten
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pre-nerf kamui was a different story

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pre LIVE nerf mind you

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they are really trying to force breakers to not be able to sustain longer field time

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to make that -3s swap cd for sss breaker/tank a necessity

steady pagoda
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most likely going to skip her alpha too,
with Karenina possibly being an ice breaker and date a live collab... i need to save

proven marten
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PSA to not do wz/ppc/operation guardians/siege/norman/clash/anything today @supple vine @frigid sorrel @steady pagoda @muted solar

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since patch is in 2 days

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and the free selector missions will ask for clearing these

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and it wont count if you cleared them alrdy for the week

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so just hold off

frigid sorrel
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I always do them on weekends anyway

proven marten
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good

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and understandable

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for no mald thats enough

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i usually do a onetap on mondays

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and then mald score during the week

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and lol

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no ice wz for ice dps patch

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classic case of "we know this char is shit so we want you to pull with no way of testing"

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there is burn wz tho

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which is also for alpha

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except shes kinda shit at it

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and they put fire and dark wz WheezeTao so you can REALLY see how much worse a breakerless element is

supple vine
proven marten
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also @supple vine since u sleep on events, dont forget to do them if they havent expired yet

proven marten
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especially with limited fomo attached

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it just doesnt make sense in pgr truly

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cuz we ARE pulling everything anyway

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or well...we used to

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alpha should have been a new generation of attackers

proven marten
muted solar
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i should go reset myy weekly pain cage

proven marten
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you can

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just dont do any of the fights

muted solar
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bait me again kuro

steady pagoda
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In cooked arent i

proven marten
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but maybe yes

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you can just do it next week then

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it might only ask for 6 ppc fights

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and you could only do 3 attemps today

steady pagoda
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Copefully, this selector goes up to ishmael right.
She good? At low investment

proven marten
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you gonna pick nanami from that

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ss ishmael is not doing shit in this economy

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u just gonna take your breaker and shove them into the void comp and have luna and nirv duo dps

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btw was there a luna oblivion given freely?

steady pagoda
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Solo rosetta does it?

proven marten
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or like a 0.99$ pack

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or something

proven marten
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kamui either

steady pagoda
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Luna is from the 0.99 pack yeah

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Which i obviously wont get

proven marten
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off-ele breakers exist as qte bots

proven marten
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thats the key to your void comp

steady pagoda
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Is it good?

proven marten
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what is good

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void?

steady pagoda
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Nihil/void or whatever

proven marten
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ok so

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theres no good or bad ele

steady pagoda
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Dont tell me its another team that needs everyone sss

proven marten
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you have to build a team for every element

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bc the zones are HEAVILY element biased

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so much so that other eles just wont do shit there

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this is how the game works

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this isnt wuwa/genshin where you can trick with something else

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if the zone says void, you gonna play void or ur not gonna play

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void zones are especially bad bc the enemies have a void shield and only void dmg can damage it

steady pagoda
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I saw that luna's team needed ishmael at sss and i questioned it

proven marten
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yes

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that is true

steady pagoda
proven marten
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non-sss ishmael does not exist anymore

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you will sss requirements a lot because a lot of characters are free to rank up over time

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luna and nirvatia both are such characters

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luna is bp and in voucher shop, nirvatia is in service shop and voucher shop

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obviously you cant buy everybody's shards at once so thats why i said before that building an account is a lengthy process

steady pagoda
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Voucher shop..
Yeah that'll be a while

proven marten
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pgr is new player hell

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much more than the current flagship gachas

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where u can pick up 1-2 strong carries and just clear endgame somewhat

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in here you need every team to succeed

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and no you dont need sss on everybody ๐Ÿ˜„

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but some characters - especially older ones - only stay meta relevant with higher ranks

steady pagoda
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Too bad idc about old units
I know what im after

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Even with their leap skills

proven marten
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whos not a debut character

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but nah jokes aside

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ishmael's current state is perfectly fine for her age

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shes almost 2yrs old

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a character's general top meta lifetime is about 1.5yrs

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that can go up to 2yrs with a good leap

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ishamel is holding on without a leap

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but only on high rank

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the reason for this is that ss ishmael simply cannot perform 3 rotations

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bc she runs out of resources

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this is natural

steady pagoda
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I wonder if the leap will save her