Punishing: Gray Raven

[proven marten]

did you log in yesterday? 😄

ah nvm this is new for today

okay

[muted solar]

don't you see the outfit is already there by the patch is online 1st day

it clearly symbolized myles don't give shit to pgr menu

[proven marten]

it's a fine skin

but i cant be wasting money on that

next patch is looking so fking gloomy

i need to check if they changed rose at all

oh they did

at equal invest she can be part of onfield rota now

thank fuck

so dark buffed but ts nerfed

beta is over and current calcs kinda show that she might not beat vergil on equal invest

wtf

well for me thats not gonna matter cuz my vergil is stuck at ss

so rose it is

[frigid sorrel]

Karen being dead is good enough

[proven marten]

if rosetta stays full qte bot shes not helping

cuz then the same issue of having shit rota still stays true

but if what ppl say is true and she can rotate now then it's great

[frigid sorrel]

Free Ishmael? Pog

[muted solar]

NEWROSETTA0203

🫡

@proven marten @supple vine

[proven marten]

ah is it livestrim time?

it feels like they made rosetta look younger in this frame

also wtf unicorn nana

and yea seems like free selector up to ish

useless to me but could be useful to you guys

😄

i really hate when they do the dailyfree pulls

when i go sss on day 1 it justbecomes useless

oho hide n seek is back

and coop wtf

walter skin is insane

rose skin is also graet

[frigid sorrel]

Ss3 ish for me

[proven marten]

PGR2026

another code

[proven marten]

ye thats good

[frigid sorrel]

Walter skin is gacha,?

[proven marten]

of course

tho they didnt say the price but im guessing it's either 500rc

or even more cause this is bianca so they gonna try to milk

[frigid sorrel]

Looks good, but funny how they essentially just swapped the gacha coating with base coating from her previous frame

[proven marten]

yea

[frigid sorrel]

I do like her gothic look more so win for me

[proven marten]

@supple vine btw henny you dont get a choice. you have to pick ss3 hanying from the selector

time to stop the ss hanying cope

with ts being pushed into meta now

[frigid sorrel]

Henny should be getting crept soon tho

Now that Karen is dead

[proven marten]

she has other before her

wata luna wanshi are older

also even if we get new phys tank doesnt mean we get new ts tank

[frigid sorrel]

I only just started going for sss wata too

[proven marten]

and most importantly

feral needs to die next

next patch is probably nirvatia

and then it should be kamui

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

but i dont see male amp happening

so probably not

or he creeps wata/wanshi

[frigid sorrel]

Should I finish sss wata or switch to SSS Lilith?

[proven marten]

we still dont have a glow tank

[frigid sorrel]

From vouchers

[proven marten]

how far along are you with each?

[frigid sorrel]

60 of on wata

90 on Lilith

[proven marten]

he

what

so ur ss+90 on lilith?

or

id ont get it

or is this how much u need

is ur lilith still ss?

wait nvm i can look it up

[frigid sorrel]

I need 60 fragments to SSS wata and 90 for Lilith

[proven marten]

no

your lilith is ss3

so you only need 60 for sss

and ur wata is ss6

so u only need 30

or

did i forget how much sss costs?

no

im right

Each dupe give X shards based on the construct rank and type
B rank = 6 shards
A rank = 18 shards
Transcendent = 18 shards
S rank = 30 shards

B to A = 10 shards
A to S = 20 shards
S to SS = 30 shards
SS to SSS = 90 shards
SSS to SSS+ = 180 shards

[frigid sorrel]

Right. I keep thinking it's 4 dupes and not 3

[proven marten]

1 dupe is 30 shards

ss to sss is 3 dupes

go finish that wata lol

tho they are equally important really

so you mightaswell go lilith from voucher

cause you cant get her from bp

also did you miss that damn selector at the time?

i remember us talking about it

and i told you to get a wata copy

the summer one that was up to qu

[frigid sorrel]

I got something else I think

Or maybe wata, idk

[proven marten]

then wtf have u been doing with ur bp all this time

it's been like 5 months

[frigid sorrel]

I was getting Luna and teddy to SSS

[proven marten]

teddy is not in bp

i meant the 15 bp shards

not vouchers

also how many vouchers have u got

[frigid sorrel]

I don't buy bp so none of them

[proven marten]

oh kek

we coping then

okay

well uhh

[frigid sorrel]

I have 15k vouchers

[proven marten]

thats nearly enough for the discounted monthly 20 shards

idunno, they are equally important

ig lilith sss does not come with rotation adjustment

but ur in hero anyway so it probably wont matter either way

[frigid sorrel]

I dropped into Hero after switching back to mobile

I'll just go with Wata than I think

[proven marten]

sure go finish wata

[muted solar]

Didnt ping me

[proven marten]

revenge for duping us into thinking we only had one code. what if i believed you and didnt go research myself ?? i would have lost a whole......150 BC!!!

[supple vine]

[muted solar]

Hey stream last longer i dont hop on

[proven marten]

then clarify that you have not watched the stream fully

smh

[muted solar]

[muted solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/968171862922240020.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[proven marten]

https://tenor.com/view/wanda-maximoff-scarlet-witch-multiverse-of-madness-doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-this-is-me-being-reasonable-gif-26223277

[muted solar]

And ty for your ice team rotatio

🫡

[proven marten]

np

[muted solar]

And myles as lab rat

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-13465728489229726846

🏃🏻‍♂️ 💨

Before myles saw that and said me

[frigid sorrel]

got the coating in 60 pulls, it's funny than whenever their is the homescreen in the core layer I always get the skin before 100.

[proven marten]

oh rite new patch is out

im only gonna get ss3 rosetta i think

i have to check how cope is that

i still have the blue banner+topup selector

and i wanna use it at some point

i still havent interacted with the babylona "open world" thingy

oh dang we got the super value 7day login again

thats nice

[supple vine]

@proven marten she isnt free right i just pull like normal right?

[muted solar]

pull bianca outfit

[proven marten]

no she's not free. we just had a free S rank

ss3 looks to be important - to no ones surprise

ss3 really is the new ss

[frigid sorrel]

I will keep her at SS i think.

I can pull her again but I would go down to like 5k bc

[proven marten]

next patch is A rank

so feel free

but you can just wait a bit

and see ss3 impact

properly

seems pretty huge tbh

also on 333 setup lilith gets kicked too

thats like....so sad

bitch has no meta teams on 333 invest

but it was to be expected ig

rosetta is qte spam bitch just like liv

so ishmael is a natural fit

anyway

got my ss3

and i will enjoy these couple of weeks of full slacc

since i cant compete in dark wz anyway

hero chilling here we go

[proven marten]

this skin is fire af

instabuy

[proven marten]

walter reached cw's level in a couple of months

i think this is probably the fastest powercreep in history

tho this is only for non-sss

guess the multiple rosetta nerfs were not enuff

[frigid sorrel]

Don't care, have SSS

(also big words for char that wants ss3 again)

[proven marten]

ss rosetta already kicks walter from the team

and every char wants ss3

it's the baseline now

the exception is when they dont want it

which was practically only vera in recent times

[proven marten]

@supple vine can you afford ss3 ros?

[supple vine]

maybe

[proven marten]

i would advise

shes your dps now

[supple vine]

walter so bad its funny

gen 3 my ass

[proven marten]

pre-sss walter yes

shes just a whalebait

well

[supple vine]

sss is fake rank

[proven marten]

sss is a different character

[supple vine]

yea

[proven marten]

like this is just pure greed

[supple vine]

and its a fake rank

to me

[proven marten]

says the guy with sss vera selena

[supple vine]

i should have SSS nana instead of vera

i dont know why i didnt

[proven marten]

you can still finish sss nana

eventually

you just need 1 more selector or some way to get her + the thunderbolt research

[proven marten]

oh yea you can afford henny

since ur not gonna roll that walter skin i assume

now that shes fakin dead to you

also please beeline sss wata asap

from voucher+bp

[supple vine]

wasnt planing on it anyway

[proven marten]

how are we doin on voucher shop

who did we buy last month

you didnt forget did you

[supple vine]

luna i think

[proven marten]

okay thats fine

wata is the top TOP prio for you now

cause he goes into your dark team

[supple vine]

i buy both of the bp so i have a good number of tix + i forget to buy sometimes

its mostly a timegate of do i remember to not be stupid

[proven marten]

okay

how are we on wata rn

huaxu doesnt show exact shards

[frigid sorrel]

what is the rotation now with sss walter and henny?

[proven marten]

so i cant tell

[supple vine]

@proven marten do i push teddy or luna past SSS?

[proven marten]

for you the focus is finishing sss lilith asap btw

[supple vine]

or wanshi for that matter?

[proven marten]

no. you dont push anybody above sss until you are done with everybody's sss whos still relevant

and even then just better sit on it

[frigid sorrel]

I will be done with sssing watanabe this patch. than i can focus on lilith

[supple vine]

epitath is the only one thats not quite SSS

luna teddy wanshi lilith all sss rn

[proven marten]

fkin liar

[supple vine]

i just did you fuck

[frigid sorrel]

my lilith is only ss3 so it will take a while to SSS her

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

yea thats fine

[frigid sorrel]

next is a A rank right?

[proven marten]

yes

nirvatia is next

the bitch from godfall revelation

[frigid sorrel]

I need to save up for SS3 Alpha as well

since ss maindps is unplayable now

[proven marten]

good good

[proven marten]

not always. but over time when a newer tank/amp comes out they usually get kicked yeah

[supple vine]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-good-gewd-star-wars-episode-3-gif-15386400457909814305

[proven marten]

okay so can u finish sss wata this patch? @supple vine

[supple vine]

uhhhhh

maybe

i think i can force feed him some shards

from bp

[frigid sorrel]

idk how Selym, who actually buys bp, is barely ahead in sss than me

[supple vine]

?

[frigid sorrel]

you have 4 I have 3 from vouchers

[supple vine]

ive got everyone other than wata sss

ah

bc i forget to buy shit

you wana see how many ive got saved

[proven marten]

bc he has the income he just forgets tho use them so he misses resets

@supple vine you need to set a reminder in your calendar or something

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

clown ass

how many are we missing for wata?

total

counting the 15 from bp

it shouldnt be much

[supple vine]

16 not counting any bp

1 sec

i might have it rn

oh yea

i have it

[proven marten]

without buying full-priced vouchers?

[supple vine]

look look

45 shards

[proven marten]

oh you

dumb

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

shithole

you SAT ON THIS ALL THIS TIME?

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

so now you wasted vouchers?

[proven marten]

wait why tf did you buy luna shards last month

if you had bp

left

[supple vine]

we established the vouchers are not the problem

[proven marten]

omg

ljdasdfasnkldfasénédfaséndfas

[proven marten]

hoarding more is good cause the next voucher unit that comes you can instantly get to higher rank ignoring the discount

like whoever useful gets leaped next

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

anyway

that means you can kick walter for wata now

and rota-wise you'll just proc df mode on him with hold ult and do 1rot and thats it

nothing fancy

and we will have to re-do his gear

im just not sure if he goes 6dv2ein or 4dv2ein2something

this depends on whether you go ss3 ros

cuz ss ros will need cottie

but ss3 ros doesnt need it anymore

so you can put bathlon on her instead and then wata dun have to carry it

[supple vine]

i pulled it

i like horse lady

[proven marten]

wait im stupid

or am i

ugh

i need to think about wata gear

if he keeps 4sig

[supple vine]

dont call yourself stupid

call me stupid instead

[proven marten]

im suddenly not sure how his shred stacks with ros

if hes higher rank

okay yea it doesnt

so

[proven marten]

@supple vine i'll get back to you later on the dark team setup

testing still ongoing

apparently ss3 walter might not be ded

ss is still ded. no way she lives

so for you theres no change

for now

since u dont have ss3 as i see

so i think your setup will be
ss3 ros 4sig4cot(or 2dw)
sss wata 4dv4bathlon atk class
sss lilith 4sig2cot2gui(or cot harmo too) atk ult - you have this alrdy

and im not sure if ros goes class or ult reso in this case

[proven marten]

@supple vine PSA for you, dont forget the fkin selector this time

do the missions

also why us rosetta still fkin lv1????

have you skipped all weekly stuff since her debut ?

wtf man

[supple vine]

basicly yes

lots of irl stuff

i do enough to get the weekly pulls

[proven marten]

okay

but dont sleep on the selector please

[proven marten]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/s/xKuEYQjIXf

lilith-type free S

so free permanent banner

with ss+wep+cub guaranteed from it

tied to missions

and ss3 from skulls ofc

also in voucher shop

void amp btw

[frigid sorrel]

Nice, I wonder if she will be as flexible as Ishmael is

[proven marten]

oh fuck this

i knew when walter showed up with raydiance that it's gonna go this way

moar fkin affixes

honestly this is a bit ridiculous now

7 S ranks back to back

thats hella tough on resources

thank god i sat on my vouchers

instead of going for s+ luna

tho i wont mind if burn dies

[proven marten]

@frigid sorrel i need you for pgr coop event sometime

cuz ppl are just afking here

and i cant clear

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

dont laugh you fuck

you wont have anybody to do it with

not like you will even bother

[supple vine]

I am the problem

[frigid sorrel]

maybe tommorow. I am going to sleap now cause I need to get up early

[proven marten]

we got time np

[proven marten]

@supple vine darling are you progression the selector missions?

also coop event is over today

and ig we all slept on it

i just couldnt find ppl to do it with

i was looking at the wrong time ig

issokay

i got some of the pulls at least

[frigid sorrel]

I almost finished it with randos

can help if you want

[proven marten]

im stuck really low

if u can carry me

i'd apprecaite it

dunno how long it is

i gave up after a couple of days of not finding ppl

can we duo it?

[frigid sorrel]

sure

1 min

[proven marten]

i'll just play liv or something

the other 2 didnt appeal to me

weirdo controls

but the idea of the event is neat

[frigid sorrel]

just do the easy missions and you get almsot neough to get all pulls

and tickets

[proven marten]

i'll take a look in a sec

okay deploy shit once

clear shit once

gotta get to nocturne stalker then

but ye i got all the pulls actually

[frigid sorrel]

you can join

[proven marten]

you sent an inv?

i dont see anythign

oo

but i found a random room with quickjoin

oo

sorry if you sent an inv idk where that would pop up

[frigid sorrel]

sorry i am getting carried by 2000k player atm

[proven marten]

enjoy

[frigid sorrel]

or right. you are not on my friend lis

just try to auto join that

[proven marten]

all good

also why tf am i not on ur friendlist

[frigid sorrel]

ok i am done. have other things to finish now

[proven marten]

go go

i got the hang of cw now

[frigid sorrel]

I am 1 shard away from sss wata

[proven marten]

alr cleared out the vohucehrs too

good

this is fast

[proven marten]

ooo

so close

imejin if u were buying bp

@frigid sorrel added u

[proven marten]

@supple vine did u get the selector?

[muted solar]

where rosetta guide

[proven marten]

nowhere

yall dont deserve walls of text

only warlord plays regularly atp

and he never asked for writeups

the rest of u dont even play

😂

[muted solar]

[supple vine]

@proven marten going to have to drop pgr at least temporarily, my pc broke and I need to see if I can get it fixed, I only have room for 1 game on my phone and pgr isn't it

[proven marten]

bitch just give me your login then

i dont want you miss that selector

im happy to do it for u

[supple vine]

@proven marten i return tomorrow

[muted solar]

is the nirvatia banner worth pull with 20 pulls get back 1500 tickets

[proven marten]

if you can afford it is worth to pull 40 on it for the wep and then the free wep dupe from service missons will be for reso

but if ur f2p id. skip

the banner is different so ur pity wont carry over to regular debut banners so just making a 20pull for 1500 back is not worth

[muted solar]

[proven marten]

@muted solar

nirv build below sss3

yellow top class bot

after sss3 you can swap the 4guin to 4sig

and prio her sss if you can

[muted solar]

[muted solar]

btw i use atk on top does it matter?

[proven marten]

yes it does

do yellow

yellow is most of her dmg during her ult form

😄

rot is swap yellow ult1 red yellow ult2 blue swap

the first yellow is only used to get enough energy for ult1 so you want to cancel the first yellow's animation with ult1 asap to save time

[muted solar]

i know this

[muted solar]

[proven marten]

good

honestly i really love her yellow anim with that cunty snap

but her ult2 anim looks so ...rigid

idk

it looks not smooth

[supple vine]

@proven marten your worst student returns

just in time for spring break

ive got 1 more day of work then a full week + off

[proven marten]

bitch you ghosted me

you have some nerve

pinging me now

[supple vine]

? i told you i wasnt sharing the account

was there anything i needed to respond to after that

[proven marten]

hmm probably not

i was just rambling afterwards

either way ur on ur own

i gave up on you

[supple vine]

hey thats not on me

[proven marten]

definitely on you

well no

[supple vine]

my pc broke and the only way into my account is through google which im not sharing

[proven marten]

it's on me

i expected too much

[proven marten]

i even came up with a solution where you wouldnt have had to share any passwords

[supple vine]

still not doing that with my account

[proven marten]

anyway now that ur in would you be so kind as to set up a fking alternate login for your acc?

so next time this happens i can get in

[supple vine]

that i will do

[proven marten]

without u needing to give me google

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

also

this isnt the only reason why i was mad

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

it's bc you could hvae just kept it on your phone for 1 more day

and do all this alternate login setup from there

but you were like oh no uninstall

and i just cant be invested in your acc anymore

cuz u clearly dont care enough

which is fine

i just need to let it go

[supple vine]

its been uninstalled for a long time on my phone, i dont game on my phone

[proven marten]

you should have fucking reinstalled

for like 10 minutes

so you can do all this

you didnt actually have to play on it

thats why i literally offered to do everythign for you

cause im fkin stupid and i cared too much

whateer

welcome back

ig

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

DONT

FUCKING

heart me

smh

u bricked that acc so hard now

i instantly get angry if i just think about it

but ig i should be thankful

you are my hi3 moment

when it comes to students

[proven marten]

the teaching moment to learn to never be too invested in students account

[supple vine]

this meme

[proven marten]

well

you should have been different

you had potential

[supple vine]

i droped to agony 2 in hi3 in this timespan too

holy shit

that was something

[proven marten]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/s/Dc3BSa816i

[proven marten]

anyway

rip wata

with this wata is completely out of the meta on same invest levels

rip pyro in fire too

but welcome back plasma pyro

and plasma as a whole

existing again

so now glow goes back to being nonexistent

until we get a glow tank/breaker

i think it will be rip vera too in burn

breaker was truly a fucking mistake

[muted solar]

gabriel is back

[supple vine]

@proven marten pgr broke again

[proven marten]

kek

[supple vine]

@proven marten i dont need to bother with this right?

[proven marten]

no

save for kamui

you should have bothered with rosetta but you were stupid

and you skipped a selector too

[supple vine]

i pulled her

[proven marten]

ye base S

good luck with that

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

anyway go do the service missions

under the missions tab

and grab nirvatia

grab her from vouchers too

no need to go beyond the discounted 20 per month

but shes your top prio rn

to get to sss

[supple vine]

[frigid sorrel]

@proven marten Do we know when next crucible banner comes around?

[proven marten]

no

[frigid sorrel]

this is going to be new thing for chars going straight to voucher shop I guess?

[proven marten]

we dont know that either

[frigid sorrel]

Don't care about pushing Nirvata to past ss3 so going to stop at 20 pulls

[proven marten]

you should get her to sss asap

but not at the cost of your pulls ofc

if it costs you kamui ranks

but otherwise shes your absolute top priority

[frigid sorrel]

Kamui going to join Rosetta in ss gang

Need to save up for Alpha

[proven marten]

rip

ss is just garbage these days

rosetta ss is oof

btu ig doesnt matter at your level

or idk

idunno much about low invest

i played rosetta ss3 for a patch

wasnt too bad but i thank god i never have to feel the cope again

[frigid sorrel]

Meh, I don't have many pulls so need to prioritise. Can't get eveyrone to ss3

[proven marten]

you should prio breakers

absolutely

alpha is most likely an attacker - or the new attacker class if they finally cook one

[frigid sorrel]

(and than Alpha comes out and powercreeps everything)

[proven marten]

she should be ice

but we dunno ofc

[proven marten]

everything powercreeps everything henny

this is pgr

theres no "prioritising"

[frigid sorrel]

I have only 50k.

[proven marten]

kamui and rosetta were so unbelievable broken

kamui goes into burn even

and kicks out vera

and he doesnt even have burn affix

sadly he ruined fire team too

[frigid sorrel]

I know Kamui is broken but i don't simp for him to go broke on him

[proven marten]

cuz fire is now the kamui show

unless they adjusted him in the last beta

i didnt check

but in v3 solo kamui beats rotational

which is SAD

[proven marten]

again. this is pgr

we dont simp

or pick stuff

we go for everything

or we fall behind

but sure if ur coping ig better pick what ur coping less on

so i get that

still..ss in these days

practically trash

ss3 became the new ss

with breakers

[frigid sorrel]

It will work out, seeltors eventually going to give me them at ss3

[proven marten]

also you have 50k

wdym you wont have enough for kamui ss3

thats enough for kamui ss3 and alpha ss3

with next patch's income

if you luck any of it early it's enough for alpha sss

[frigid sorrel]

Don't think the math mathes there

[proven marten]

oh rite it doesnt

60k woudl be what i was thinking of

oops

mb

[frigid sorrel]

I don't play this game super seriosly anyway atp

[supple vine]

2 thoughts about Nirvatia

1 its kinda weird that she is the only Nihil unit that doesnt have a weird class

2 man she is hot

[supple vine]

@proven marten also whats her build its not in the spreadsheet

[supple vine]

nevermind found it

also turns out i DID get the selector before my pc died

ish or nana dupe?

ive got 21 hours

[muted solar]

4k

[supple vine]

only just got her so i didnt put memory on and hadent used ppc frags yet

[muted solar]

no sss ishmael go sp build

by the time ariel wake up myles is not around

[supple vine]

iirc he wakes up like right as i go to bed

[proven marten]

spreadsheet is over

setsu quit

her build is 4dv4guin

if ur ish is sss

but your is fkin ss0

ye that ish is dead

[muted solar]

you

awake

[proven marten]

ya

[muted solar]

[proven marten]

do you still have the thunderbolt research thingy?

that has nana select in it so you can finish her sss?

or the blue banner select maybe?

anyway if we have a way to finish sss nana then go pick nana if no then go ish

and nirv build is 4dv2guin in grid + 2guin/ein harmod depending on the zone type (4guin for mobs, ein for 1 mob, maybe even for duo mob)

and nirv resonance is yellow top, class bot

put the 4dv on the bottom grid slots

technically since ur ish is cope invest wata kicks her for normal void zones probably and then the setup changes, but for disruption wz (which is void just with FAT shields) ish has to stay cuz of the void rework. the shields became fatter and you need to have disruption affix (the void affix) to kill the shields

so tldr for builds assuming sss luna and ss3 ish, if ss ish just go wata
disruption wz:
ish 4sig4cottie atk class
nirv 4dv2guin+harmo gui/ein atk class

old void wz (no shields)
wata 4sig4dv atk class
nirv 4shakes4cottie atk ult

@muted solar i think i told you to go full yellow nirv top before. that changed now and turns out we go either 3-3 split yellow/atk or full atk. full yellow is ded apparently

but no need to change for u probs wont matter

[supple vine]

1 sec let me check i just got off my run

[proven marten]

also did u finish all the nirv quests???

why is she only ss

[supple vine]

not all of them

[proven marten]

we got ss3 for free

[supple vine]

didnt have time

[proven marten]

go go

but first confirm the conditions

if we can finish up nana sss

if no just go ss3 ish. i would go ish prolly either way but this is looking cope

[supple vine]

ok ive not done this yet

nana is ss4

[proven marten]

but eeehhhh ur pulls

doesnt matter you still need 2 dupes to finish

[supple vine]

yea so thunderbolt and selector

ive not used selector yet

[proven marten]

how many pulls total

[supple vine]

or is maths wrong

[proven marten]

42k bc

how much char tix?

[proven marten]

yes thats enuff

i just need you to not gimp ur pulls bc of this 🤣

so lets see how much u got total

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

slacc ass

jesus

do the events pls

they are all fast

last day

[supple vine]

ill try to get some done

i need to do weeklies too

[proven marten]

this is why i wanna get access to ur acc

so i can fkkn help you

anyway this is a nana angle prolly. and maybe we bury ishmael for now

but then u gotta hard focus nirv shards

from vouchers

get to sss asap

ye im afraid this is how it has to be

ss ish is just hot garbage

we can revive her later with the next selector ig

[muted solar]

oh ok

https://tenor.com/view/arigatoo-gif-17707383994461142586

[proven marten]

no need to change

if ur short on mats

3atk3yellow is probably a good middle ground

also could depend on rank

and whether shes the dps or not

(as in do you have ish in the team or not)

etc

im thinking i might make a copy of that setsu sheet

and update it myself

so we can still have info

but idk

sad that ppl are quittin

setsu quit cuz of breakers

so did rydle and snazz

rip dalaos

[supple vine]

are they that bad

[proven marten]

well

they are just yet another step in the wrong direction

they invalidate 2 classes

[supple vine]

is this like a hi3 part 2 fall off level event

[proven marten]

instead of being a natural progression of tanks

their damage is way too high and having access to attacker resonances makes them basically attacker+tank in one

like u know how previously i said your top aim is to have at least 1 sss tank

[supple vine]

thats dumb

[proven marten]

well now thats just out the window cuz now u want 1 sss breaker at least

[supple vine]

class system exists for a reason

[proven marten]

ye but this is hypocritical from us in a way

bc amps replaced supports

and most ppl dont even remember supports existed

breakers would be fine if attackers got a new class too

[supple vine]

i assume they will at some point

[proven marten]

the other thing is that the game's combat has been changed

many high ranking players dislike the combat direction

moving from proper orb management and combo execution to essentially "time your qte's"

[supple vine]

the issue sounds less like them replacing tanks and more them stepping on attackers toes

[proven marten]

attackers - especially leaped ones turned into broken qte bots

and breakers capitalize on this

cuz the breaker mechanic is giving another qte stack to the team

and extending matrix

[supple vine]

orb management is why i came to this game originally

[proven marten]

yes

[proven marten]

well next patch thats basically gone if you want to

with the new system

it's optional ofc

but most ppl will take it , probably i will take it too

[supple vine]

bruh what

[proven marten]

the orb system is getting an update

so the orbs will be grouped into colors

like how nana orbs work

you dont have them in a long line separated

but she has red blue and a number

so that will be the case for every frame

meaning orb management is gone

but orb management was already kinda gone since most modern S ranks either rearrange their orbs, dont care for orb color, or already had a system like this

nana, rosetta comes to mind here

this will be great for newbies since the orb system can be hella confusing

[supple vine]

i mean its probs more healthy for the game long term

but like

[proven marten]

yes

[supple vine]

it makes the game less special

[proven marten]

and as i said it's OPTIONAL

you can choose to keep the old system

and for some characters thats essential

Qu for example

not like qu is played

and shes the only example i can think of rn xd

anyway

[supple vine]

fucking Qu

[proven marten]

the whole exodus of dalaos started with dmc

dmc being made meta

was a huge issue

then the bianca fiasco

her being a crap cope unit without sss

then vero being lazy design and another sss or bust char

then liv with the new banner type

then breakers

and sss-less bianca just dying after 2 patches

all this kinda made ppl fed up

so most of the dalaos i know quit

we still have some left but not many

the other thing is the story directoin and character designs

leaning more into romance and goon

ever since the timeline reset

ppl called it the wuwaification

i personally dont care for this part cuz i skip story since the reset anyway. i dont like timeline resets, it's a cheap way of taking away years of development

[supple vine]

there has to be some actual stakes and price to a timeline reset for me to enjoy it

[proven marten]

only so they can legally make frames for characters who couldnt get a new one lorewise

[proven marten]

they wrote themselves into a corner

so i understood it

it was the only option really

[supple vine]

just have a new cast like hi3

[proven marten]

the hetero-tower storyline lead us into a dead end

[supple vine]

actually returned to good story

[proven marten]

cuz the world was ending

and we couldnt stop it anymore

[supple vine]

[proven marten]

so we got reset to pre-tower

and we got the phylotree instead

anyway

this is basically the gist of it

as to why ppl are leaving

for me personally i dont care cuz the reasons i play this game for are still valid

i still like the combat, the fast events and the fact that i get to get every character and i dont have the usual decisionmaking issues with gacha

they just need to fix attackers fast

[supple vine]

i swear you would like hi3 now if you came back but i know that aint happening

[proven marten]

no it aint happening

that door has closed

and im fine with it

[supple vine]

they even fixed the yap

story patches are only 3 hours

[proven marten]

also apparently

kamui got nerfed enough

that rotational fire is back

and it looks like sss pyro will survive

ss3 is still up in the air

we will have to test live

thats good news

[supple vine]

also would have been cool and bold to explore what happens after a world ends

might have been intresting

[proven marten]

we already know what happens xd

observers obliterate every living organism

well not the observers but whoever is actually after us

we are not actually observers

anyway

it's not happening now

@supple vine dont let the selector expire buddy

wait

wait

@supple vine when did you get ss3 rosetta?????

[supple vine]

i used it and got nana

[proven marten]

i swear you had ss

when i checked

last

[supple vine]

turns out i forgot to buy the ppc shards

[proven marten]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BUILD

why do you run bianca's sig memo set??????

[supple vine]

uhhhhhh

i didnt read

ill fix it later

when i have time

[proven marten]

what the actual fuck

[supple vine]

doing events before bed time

[proven marten]

anyway your bianca is dead

but your ish is also kinda dead so

wtf is your dark

[supple vine]

ight ima continue doing this weird $ event and rewatching re zero

lmk with a ping if you find anything else stupid that i did that needs fixing

[proven marten]

you need to update dark.
wata 4dv4bathlon atk class
ros 4sig4cottie atk ult
lilith 4sig2cot2guin (you have this done alrdy just swap the harmo to 2guin) atk class, but you can leave the ult ig whatever

and no need to htune wata bathlon pieces

hes just there to carry the mems and for the -3s swap cd, his shred itself doesnt matter cuz wont stack

[proven marten]

@supple vine did u finish bp at least?

or u slept on the whole patch

[supple vine]

not all the tix yet

[proven marten]

bruh

come on

stop sleeping

it's the last fkin day

or last 2 days

[supple vine]

no clue what im missing from bought out the event thing

unless its also in another thing too

[proven marten]

?

you got a straight up nirv copy from her event story

then you got the 30 ppc shards

then the 50 shards from service missions

and 20 from discounted vouchers

[supple vine]

no clue what im missing

[proven marten]

did you do event story?

oh my

fucking

god

DID YOU ACTIVATE HER???

FROM THE 50 SHARDS???

INSTEAD OF THE FREE COPY

[supple vine]

oh

[proven marten]

AREYOU

FUCKING

NO

if i could punch you right now

you1d be fkin bledding

out

you fucking donkey

so now you are 20 shards behind cuz you wasted them

unlocking her with the 50 shards instead of just...GETTING HER

[supple vine]

i am an ass after all

[proven marten]

no but seriously

how are you this stupid

when i specifically todl you

dkasfkldasnfdaskjdfaskjdfasdfasdfasdfas

how did you even avoid this??

did you never open the main event once?

it literaelly throws her in your face

you cant even NOT claim her

[supple vine]

they didnt idiot proof it enough

i should be their beta tester for idiot proofing

[proven marten]

just ask me next time

before u unlock anything

or idk

@muted solar did you do the same stpuid thing?

or did you have more brain at least

[proven marten]

anyway go claim that

it gets you to ss3 at least

and then well u hvae to spend more vouchers for sss

times like this are truly when i question why i even bother

when you lack any basic instincts

as a longtime gacha plyaer

[supple vine]

bp done

[proven marten]

CLAIM NIRV

[proven marten]

good so u didnt slacc the whole patch at least

grab nana from selector

before it expires

!!!!!!!!!!!

DO IT NOW

[supple vine]

i already did

also i have a lot of vouchers so i think it wont hurt too much to eat the 20

anyway i did event story

i need to go to bed now

got work in the morning

[proven marten]

so u have ss3 nirv now?

[supple vine]

yes

[proven marten]

thats not a lot still. hanying leap next patch

so u have more shit to get

u basically lost a month of progression on nirv

thats all

but it's fine ig

it's just once again stupid for no reason

but i shold know better ig

sleep tight bitch

[muted solar]

I done all events except story

And claim her on the 6 mission story

[proven marten]

good

so u should be close to sss then

like 20 off

so u should have it by month reset

[muted solar]

[proven marten]

hows ur ish?

also did i ever get your huaxu link?

[muted solar]

What's huaxu

[proven marten]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/19341858/characters

pgr's player database

along with data on all server's wz/ppc scores

etc

it's our version of whatever hoyo games use to showcase

except this crawls our entire account

so we dont have to upload anything

[muted solar]

I am playing on cn

Is that valid

[proven marten]

and it updates live - so if you see wack builds on some of my shit thats why

[proven marten]

yeah?