Arknights

[tardy vigil]

I didn't try to justify degen

[willow nymph]

Yeah this skin is really funny for it

[violet vortex]

Which is not physically possible or threatening due to the weight & speed

[willow nymph]

I supported your point while throwing a jab at degen

[willow nymph]

See the people doing the cloud/berserk training and wielding massive anime swords

we literally have video proof of people doing dumb shit with anime swords now

what a blessing to live in 2024

[tardy vigil]

It's not about realism to me, it is about vibe

And degen gives kill bill vibe

[violet vortex]

Yeah if you make a cosplay sword that weighs like paper you can experience only being inefficient

[willow nymph]

and well if you want to say that's irrealistic

[tardy vigil]

Perfect swords for it btw

[violet vortex]

Unless you’re eddy haul I don’t expect anyone to be wielding these 100-200lb blades

[willow nymph]

No those swords are weighed like them

the whole point of those channels is training until they wield the normal weight

[violet vortex]

Wouldn’t know, don’t watch this stuff

And I have no means of verifying

People fake weights all the time

[willow nymph]

they have nice pecs and abs atleast

[tardy vigil]

What anime have you seen 200 lb blade

[willow nymph]

also the fact zweihanders were used in battles unironically just disprove your point about anime blades considering that shit is just an anime blade

[violet vortex]

Having shredded abs is an effect of either steroids or being in a massive calorific deficit/water depleted

[violet vortex]

Where you are often at your absolute weakest

[tardy vigil]

It is always about calorie deficit

[willow nymph]

I didn't say shredded i said nice

you can see muscle even if the guy doesn't have 3% bf

[tardy vigil]

Shredded abs is about not covering muscles with fat

So 0 fat on your belly

[violet vortex]

Yeah and for pictures/film you starve yourself for the video to make them pop extra well

[tardy vigil]

Well yea

I don't know the details of achieving super low fat % in your body

It is not only starving

But in pictures/film you can just Photoshop em

And it's like 2 clicks

[willow nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pU6wlsmmSqM

there that kinda shit

[tardy vigil]

Having like 5% fat and reasonable abs is fine and doable without drugs

[violet vortex]

5% is a sign of extremely poor health

[tardy vigil]

This is still impractical

[willow nymph]

Just doesn't have 20years of practice yet

[tardy vigil]

No it's just an objectively dog weapon in this era

800 years ago with YEEEAH BIGGEST STICK was ok

[willow nymph]

You mean which era
rn or ak's

rn it's kinda irrelevant

[tardy vigil]

Modern dueling

[willow nymph]

wars that matter are fought with threats

nuclear threats

[tardy vigil]

I am sure AK sword dueling is not much behind ours

[willow nymph]

They don't have as many resources and a lot of places are backward af

[tardy vigil]

Yea and they also have some big armor smh

[violet vortex]

Most people you see with shredded abs will be shooting around 10-12%, and just make themselves presentable for the camera. If you know someone or are shooting for 5% please seek help

[willow nymph]

yes because armors surprisingly work in a world with no gunpowder and the ability to make magic resistant armor

[tardy vigil]

So maybe greatsword is in fashion

[violet vortex]

That is almost the % where you will actually die

[willow nymph]

like just look at dikaiopolis

they basically just do HEMA tournaments

with less rules

[tardy vigil]

His armor doesn't look this impressive

It looks plastic

[willow nymph]

it's magic blood armor

[tardy vigil]

Average fat guy armor looks thicker to me

[willow nymph]

~~he's got as much def as patriot so he's tanky ~~

[tardy vigil]

Never seen your patriots

[willow nymph]

this guy

[tardy vigil]

For months I thought when people say "patriot" then meant this silly AK rocket launch system from enemies

Cuz of MIM 104 Patriot

[willow nymph]

I would like to say he's the tallest guy in ak but uh ... ch14 happened

[wanton stratus]

What is modern dueling?

[willow nymph]

and we've confirmed the sarkaz have bigger than wendigo in store

[wanton stratus]

[willow nymph]

i'd say just hema

(historical european martial arts)

[wanton stratus]

[willow nymph]

final point i wanted to bring up is that usually for melee operators the weapons make sense and are usable

[tardy vigil]

"European"

I guess other traditions might exist, but I've never thought about them

[willow nymph]

There's no equivalent for asian

and well americans got way too obliterated to have any trace

[tardy vigil]

Everybody gangsta until plague shows up

[willow nymph]

no grouping for african/middle eastern but there also hasn't been big schools for a long time unlike in asia and europe

so yeah

actually ig there's surtr that has a stupid ass melee weapon but she doesn't even wield it by herself and is assisted by arts to do it

[tardy vigil]

Middle eastern is part of European sorta

[willow nymph]

and doesn't slash people with it on s3

[willow nymph]

Hema has none of them that's why i excluded

[tardy vigil]

Like the ottoman empire was part of European traditions

In sense that people were traveling and exchanging techniques

[willow nymph]

yeah they were part of the cultural sphere

[tardy vigil]

Military-cultural sphere

[willow nymph]

mmm yeah dumbest weapons for melee in order
3m long sword from surtr (only a problem because she wield it normally on s1 /s2/offskill)
blunt sword from degen
Spalter pizza cutter which ig is fine because in lore ah are literally super humans that can swing tons easily

s3 surtr is perfectly fine

[ebon sphinx]

the blunt sword is possibly because of a no or mostly non lethal policy

[willow nymph]

Return to Tranquility

[violet vortex]

The batman method of giving people a concussion & leaving them there

Technically not killing them directly

[willow nymph]

Silent ridicule
Pure force
"A Born Warrior"
A living legend
The Operator is adept at inflicting multiple kills on enemies in hand-to-hand combat

[violet vortex]

Just letting them die semi-slowly after the fact

From the logic that brought you shooting people in the legs

[willow nymph]

yeah she doesn't practice non-lethal policy

[tardy vigil]

It's clearly some ancient magical swords

[willow nymph]

it's not

[tardy vigil]

Found in some temple atop of the mountain

[willow nymph]

degen is utterly unable to use arts

[tardy vigil]

I never said use arts

[willow nymph]

and to communicate with it

[tardy vigil]

Maybe it isn't arts

Just an ancient artifact

She has a regular sword in e1

[willow nymph]

The greatsword is broken

she uses the 2 small swords

only

In fact, the greatsword was shattered in half during the escape due to the "Darkiron" arrows, and she threw the blade of the sword in return as a salute, and the hilt of the sword was with her - after all, at that time, she had no other weapon to use. It wasn't until she came to Sherag, that she had the hammers made for her by the craftsmen of the Karaan trade, and she naturally put down the greatsword.

[tardy vigil]

Wdym broken

[willow nymph]

she only carries the hilt

[tardy vigil]

Why she carries it around

[willow nymph]

sentimental prolly

[tardy vigil]

Anyway two metal pipes aren't that bad of a weapon

https://tenor.com/view/metal-pipe-gggg-banger-godlike-gif-9885189804401680492

[willow nymph]

yes if she wasn't slashing with pipes

i'd be fine

[tardy vigil]

What are you doing with pipes

Stabbing?

[willow nymph]

bonking and yeah stabbing works really nice with a pointy end

[tardy vigil]

Her s1 M3 has 3 sp cost

Unbelievable

1.3 attack interval nvm

[willow nymph]

it's off recovery

?

unlike her s3

s3 is the only stupid skill

there's literally never any reason to use not s3

except shitty bibeak stalls but more damage

[tardy vigil]

Yes it's off

Auto recovery skill would never have 3sp cost

[willow nymph]

would have

(she still takes almost 6s to cast it because of her scuffed atk interval)

1.45s atk interval be like

[tardy vigil]

Who is this

Name sounds suspicious

I hope it isn't frost leaf

[willow nymph]

it is

[tardy vigil]

Frostleaf M3 detected, opinion discarded

[willow nymph]

hating on her because she's got the lowest cost auto recovery skill despite not even being able to use it

wow shame on you

[tardy vigil]

17 support chips 1 vanguard

Do I just convert - or keep farming

[ebon sphinx]

convert if you aren't raising supports, if there's no need, keep farming

[willow nymph]

long term you'll raise way more supporters

there's only ig 4 relevant 6* vg but 7 relevant 6* supp

[wanton stratus]

My god

[quaint arch]

4 Relevant Vanguard's
Is it: Ines, Bagpipe, Saileach, & Muelsyse?

[tardy vigil]

I've raised 2 of 6* vang

Need chips for

https://tenor.com/view/crab-knife-fight-gif-7305809

[hot rampart]

https://fxtwitter.com/MiracleNowan/status/1798622890063192401?t=sP0oFEuht9O8hpZqk8JsLA&s=19

[ebon sphinx]

i already did CC, just waiting for their dailies

CC events are very slacc

[versed compass]

i only did the daily and 2 quests

too lazy to play

thankfully its a daily every 3 days now

[civic linden]

Which module is better for saga?

[hot rampart]

the one that give her more stats if u just going for base lvl 1 module

-4 dp only matters in dp tight stage but gets absolutely mogged by flag and agent already

seems like module X gives more stats and more damage to enemies below 50%hp

[quaint arch]

Flametail -4 DP Mod good cuz Talent Upgrades

[willow nymph]

-4dp is just

make pioneer vg usable

they aren't better than flag

they are usable

[quaint arch]

That's so factual

Imejin Spending 14 DP for a Vanguard

Also, 4* Standard Bearer kringe

I only use it if the stage makes me do such

[civic linden]

But using flagbearers all the time is boring

[ebon sphinx]

Vanguards are just a subclass of Guards anyway ...but I am partially not kidding, Vanguards didn't exist in beta

Siege's S3 being non DP generating is highly likely a relic of that

[quaint arch]

VanGuards

[wanton stratus]

How tf do I find the pins with discord’s new shitty layout

Help

[willow nymph]

No it's because her talent was 1dp /kill near her

Not sp

So she was generating dp

[quaint arch]

@wanton stratus Try this

[willow nymph]

Instead of that she's THE ONLY UNIT TO BYPASS SP LOCKOUT

[quaint arch]

[willow nymph]

In the whole game

[wanton stratus]

Gah bless

[willow nymph]

(Saga still has sp lockout because s2 kills are delayed until after skill ends as shown by the orange bar)

[quaint arch]

Candle Knight Mod Talent Upgrade surely will feature that back trust

[wanton stratus]

@here Does anyone have a Gavialter with S2M3 I can use?

[quaint arch]

Not me

[hot rampart]

i do but only lvl 60

[wanton stratus]

That’s fine

[hot rampart]

i put it up

[wanton stratus]

Big thanks

Let’s see how this goes

[fluid verge]

so u still need a gavalter?

[wanton stratus]

How built is yours?

[fluid verge]

lvl 90

mod 3

p1

[wanton stratus]

Oh yes please

[fluid verge]

its up aara#7147

[wanton stratus]

Yeye

[bleak mirage]

This new cc I feel I need more level nineties

Cause shit that used to work is blowing up in my face

Or just barely not being enough

[willow nymph]

invis drones that don't die by themselves are just stupid

[bleak mirage]

Like fuck..

[willow nymph]

it's such a one op is good and the rest is trash

there's no interaction it's straight up dog

just bring ines or cope with ely when NO ONE burst those in 16s

or ah yes use sa instead of mlynar ... and have to bring 2 more ops for dps anyway

[bleak mirage]

I think I just need levels in exu and ines and surtr for my problem

Too bad exp is kinda annoying to snatch

[willow nymph]

tbh this cc map design just makes me hate ines

because it's dogshit to play without her no matter what you do

most cc maps had alternate strategies

this one's an ines check first

and then you can see the rest

and don't say a thing about flagpipe needed to open maps in most cc
that's max risk not fucking medal

Ines is just the only op that can do half of what the map ask by herself

and there's no alternative for it

[wanton stratus]

I’m trying a strat where I leak the two drones

Not working well so far

[willow nymph]

it's just easier to kill them and score more points

they are a massive amount of damage you HAVE to soak anyway

it's possible to leak them but it's just bad compared to using ines and being done

[wanton stratus]

Me when the
+200% HP
+850 def
+20 RES
-50% operator atk

[hot rampart]

try not to take any of the buff that affect all enemies

[wanton stratus]

I don’t understand how to do all this with 5 deployment limit/7 squad slots

I must be really fucking stupid

[tidal hawk]

I don't understand how you guys can deal with CC when I am already super happy just by getting this in one run

[tidal hawk]

Also can anyone recommend me a team to use? I don't have ines or dorothy

[ebon sphinx]

you can borrow ines...

[tidal hawk]

I did

[sharp tartan]

Fuck this shit im so done

Using kyo strat but ines and hoshiguma less so have to put in flagpipe and as many bodies to tank the last car

[fluid verge]

ever since they changed CC, my motivation for them has tanked

[tidal hawk]

Why do I need to do 620 when the mission max is 540

[wanton stratus]

There is a medal for beating 600+

[sharp tartan]

Thats the worst part imho

Why the threshold for reward and trimmed medal not the same

[wanton stratus]

This is gonna be so embarrassing for me if that was a rhetorical question

[civic linden]

they really should lower the level for trim medal

620 risk feels waay higher than risk 18

i remember getting jumpscared by cc 10 as a newbie but being able to beat risk 18 with a very scuffed comp with fucking angelina as main dps

tho maybe their intentions is for it to be way harder...

[sharp tartan]

It should also be 540 for it to be easier or to have more rewards at 620

[hot rampart]

i think its fair

becuz theres no more 1 week timer

u can still trim on week 2

and the lowest part of the risk UI is a collection of "easier risks"

that u will get from completing the dailies

[fluid verge]

nice

[tough matrix]

Fuck me

[tardy vigil]

Are those mastery gains really worth it?

Shaving off 3-4 seconds before second activation?

[sharp tartan]

3-4 seconds is huge

[ebon sphinx]

pretty huge

[tardy vigil]

sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesnt

even with m3 you need to wait a long ass time and cant helidrop her

and if boss takes ages to get there you will hold this second cast anyway

[violet vortex]

That is what masteries are for

For the times it will matter

Same applies to damage increases. Sometimes it makes virtually no difference if you hit slightly harder

[tardy vigil]

1-2 seconds off Ines skill is big, because it improves uptimes

This mastery seems weird to me, it still as clunky and only matters if boss comes at exactly the time you get s3 ready

[wanton stratus]

…that’s Viviana’s entire design though

[willow nymph]

go m3 for the sweet 2.5x talent mod

massive

[hallow garnet]

oh dummy friend support medal

i always forget about this

[hallow garnet]

ah prison map is annoying

that risk tooltip is wrong

it's not gain 1 block

it's just "you have 1 block"

i got tricked

[tardy vigil]

scam translate

not the first time

[hallow garnet]

the boss is too fkin chonk jesus

[ebon sphinx]

strats i see is to not reduce your HP to 1 and...

let him pass

[hallow garnet]

im doin 330

200 is really easy

just plomp mountain down

sicc a ton of medics on him

profit

and retreat at the end and let the boss pass

330 doesnt have this luxury xd

im trying to think of someone

who does enough dmg

has some self sustain

but can be healed by reddic

cause my first thought was wow thats a perfect fedex tile

but then reedic kinda wasted

but maybe i'll swap reedic to chalter

but the boss isnt even my issue

it's the big elite chonk dude

wait

i could do

viviana

anybody got a vivi?

or this is a copium thought

i'll mald this later

[tardy vigil]

Viviana?

need to kill his first form tho

[hallow garnet]

vivi has enough tankiness

and she would enable reedic usage

which is wasted on fedex

damage is fine

i can just stall

[tardy vigil]

I could display my s3 m1 lvl 40

[hallow garnet]

and slowly burn it away with artu

probably not what im looking for

wish ulpipi existed in glb alrdy

he'd probably be the pick here

[tardy vigil]

there was someone m9 her

[hallow garnet]

fedex is also not good cause he has range

and before the enemy is blocked

they just dodge

so he wastes a ton of ammo

[tardy vigil]

-100% dmg taken

ez

[hallow garnet]

it's fine

i'll figure something out

or not

but it's nice to see that 200 is piss ez

for the casuals

[willow nymph]

330 i just went buff squad with chongyue

+mountain

i can put vivi up @hallow garnet

she's up

[hallow garnet]

oooh

but

chong survived?

what the heck did u put on him

shining?

[willow nymph]

skalter aak gnosis eyjalt

stuns helped a ton probably

[hallow garnet]

eyjalt

what for

shes the highest pure hps?

[willow nymph]

She heals a lot and guarantees not oneshot

[hallow garnet]

i'd probably put reedic

over eyjalt

but that might also be risky

[willow nymph]

reedic doesn't heal

[hallow garnet]

what

[willow nymph]

because she can't do damage

[hallow garnet]

why not

if chong blocks them

she can hit htem

with s2

no?

[willow nymph]

didn't test

[hallow garnet]

hmhm

so you basically

[willow nymph]

think it still counts as her damage

and not chong's

[hallow garnet]

hm

ah

but

enemies take dmg from anybody

if they are blocked

no?

or only from the unit that blocks them??

[willow nymph]

no only from the blocker

[hallow garnet]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THATS WHY IT DIDNT WORK

dnaewflklnfdas

[willow nymph]

kinda like the big duel crocs

[hallow garnet]

i was trying to necrosis their asses

okay i'll try chong

aak just for the stuns huh

is eyjalt hps higher than lumen?

[tardy vigil]

Wait what

And I was thinking why they take no damage in IS2

Wait it's probably a different croc

[hallow garnet]

@willow nymph chong just dies before i can put down a medic wtf

how did u make this work

or did u not take the triple medic dp cost?

and yea reedic doesnt work

take -100% from other than their blockers

so reedic is out

yea chong just dies

wtf

hacks

hes too low by the time i can get eyjalt out

[willow nymph]

I mean skalterr keep him patched up till then

[hallow garnet]

no she doesnt

[willow nymph]

Gnossis aak is enough cc

[hallow garnet]

he just went poof

ah

aak rng

ig

ugh no then i have to look for something else

relying on rng stuns is not for me

[willow nymph]

I have mod3

[hallow garnet]

dunno what his mod does

[willow nymph]

So the rng is very much not there

[willow nymph]

30% chance to proc every effect
Along with normal effect rate

[hallow garnet]

ah

eh

no

i'll look for something else

[willow nymph]

So you have 50% stun rate

It's op op

[hallow garnet]

i could do silencealter

i still dont understand why eyjalt over shining

[willow nymph]

Cos both worked

I can probably cut an op or 2 and do 5op

[hallow garnet]

ueiwhfasbnfbdasfaus

silence works

early

while i get out shining

but then everybody gets randomly freed

and i shit goes haywire

is it the caster enemy

who frees shit

[quaint arch]

Recidivist

[hallow garnet]

it just does it at random

i watched it now

it was the one who came out on left

not hit by anything

just...did it

and i went poof

mountan just dies

cause of it

[willow nymph]

no is the big ball guys

[hallow garnet]

yeye recidvist thingy

how do u live thru that

[willow nymph]

you kill it

ooga

[hallow garnet]

you cant

hes on the left

far from me

[willow nymph]

he needs to attack to free

[hallow garnet]

so it was the one i was attacking

who did it

weird

[willow nymph]

yeah

[hallow garnet]

i even put aak s3 on

and he still had time to proc it

cant really ooga harder

chong is auto

[willow nymph]

think they only have 2 hits to free

i use gnosis for them

[hallow garnet]

hmhm

okay

try to kill why frozen

to prevent proc

okay

okay this worked

however boss onetapped him

with 1 attack

when he came closer

even with shinign shield

THE FUCK

huh

boss killed chong

thru silence s3

WHAT

how

yea no

i cant

idk how this happened

i can make my way to the boss, kill phase 1

but then just murder

ah wait i understand now

silence s3's cheat death is not for the entire duration of the skill itself

[willow nymph]

OH RIGHT

i actually had a reason for not shining

boss has 80% def ignore

in risks

[sharp tartan]

I'm losing my mind because I pick 1 def risk for 200

[hallow garnet]

oh

whos the highest hps?

is it eyja

[versed compass]

consistence should be eyja ya

burst think its pure/sussuro/eyja s3 but dont recall who wins

or reed in the right fight

[willow nymph]

i just used s3 no need for more

chong kills

[hallow garnet]

which is not this one

sadly

[tardy vigil]

any recommendation on 200 picks

[tardy vigil]

Res shred is op

Vivi does pisslow dmg in this cc sidequest

[willow nymph]

on s3?

should only have a problem for jess

[tardy vigil]

I need to upgrade haze

[willow nymph]

nah if you build a 4* caster go click

honestly

[tardy vigil]

Click doesn't shred res

Haze does

[hallow garnet]

got mountain?

mountain can solo the entire thing

with medics on him

and whoever random on the top right side boxcamping

just dont take the 1hp risk

and let the boss thru at the end

[tardy vigil]

Hypercarry map heh

If only I had haze to show the haters all vivi modifiers

[willow nymph]

ifrit has WAYYYY higher shred

also core caster mod only apply to themselves

[versed compass]

low rarity res ignore/shred dont matter when they gonna do negative damage anyway

♿

[tardy vigil]

Haze shreds res for everyone

[versed compass]

if you have other arts dps you wont use haze or click

or at least should not

the amount she shred is not worth a slot

[tardy vigil]

As does sexas

Sexas and vivi ship is real

[versed compass]

i think only one who uses haze are like 4* players

and usually paired with click

so either lone click or click + haze sort of shit

[tardy vigil]

Click is useless to me

Haze is cute and amps vivi dmg

I have typhon for microstuns

[tardy vigil]

I will play vivinights

She has double/triple hits and a dmg%

Scales multiplicatively with both atk% and res%

[fluid verge]

👍 don't feel bad king

U got dis

[violet vortex]

I’m sure the almost 4 year playtime difference between you & them isn’t relevant

[civic linden]

AAAAA WHY DOES THE SECOND DRONE ONLY DOES 1 LAP

[violet vortex]

Ideally you kill them both together

When the second spawns

To avoid unnecessary issues

[wanton stratus]

3 tile damage window got me acting up

Młynar removes around a quarter of their hp during that time

[violet vortex]

Mlynar + SA is the common strat

Burst the second the first enters attack range

[wanton stratus]

Wait, really?

With 7 squad slots?

How tf

I figure at least 2 healers are needed to keep the left side alive

So 2 healers + 2 blockers + Młynar + SA + Mountain on the right

No dp gen

Dead

Or where exactly is SA placed. Is it in the reeds?

[sharp tartan]

no shining alone can keep both sa mlynar alive

[wanton stratus]

Huh

So does one drop DP gen down tag to -25% here?

Someone still has to block the top left lane

Or whatever

[civic linden]

i banned guards so i'm doing virtuosa + ines strats

I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT TODAY BUT I TRIED TO STYLE ON THEM WITH CARNELLIAN BUT FORGOT THE DRONES HAVE LIKE 70 RES

[wanton stratus]

So

[wanton stratus]

How do you solve the right side?

[civic linden]

ines + virtuosa mostly handle it

dorothy places some mines do deal with first enemy and some random leaks later on

for all the rough parts of pinch-out/ cc 2 i do like the risks that seem detrimental to you but also are negative to enemies on a deeper look

like pinch-out's increased sp cost that also made the robots take longer to wake up

and this cc's burning right side that also ends up taking the invisibility away from enemies

[violet vortex]

Right side can be handled by Thorns + Eyja alter
Leftside after the early first enemies is Mylnar + Silvernash directly below the upper spawn healed by any good healer

Shining & Warfarin s1 both work

To deal with the floating drones

[tardy vigil]

Killed the boss on 200

I want leto

Or at least degen

[tardy vigil]

Is this from a video?

It looks like rpg background

[hot rampart]

that background is l4d2

also supah new vid and i think his opinion kinda shit in this one(except for that magallan and mayer part) but the whole idea of the vid is shit

still gonna watch it tho

[tardy vigil]

A great video idea

(rage bait)

[hot rampart]

so true!

[willow nymph]

Why except its fucking shit for it too

[hallow garnet]

daily supa hate?

[hot rampart]

average players = casuals

they dont use summoners let alone mayer and magallan

and u dont justify bringing them over a full squad that is either u challenging your self for the sake of it

even braindead ling is not used much

[willow nymph]

S1 mag hello ? That's slot efficient that works even unraised
S2 mayer is just really cheap and efficient stalling along with EASY TO USE low altitude hovering hard counter

No need to be bigbrain for either of these

Put summon click button poof does shit

[hot rampart]

in mayer case scene is just better at said braindead

[willow nymph]

Since when could scene stun

[hot rampart]

stun is a totally strong factor for sure

[willow nymph]

-aspd makes her a much better stall choice for arts damage enemy too

[hot rampart]

op op op hold that taught

-aspd?

yeah not casual friendly my dude

casuals dont play cc

we can throw these argument out of the window cuz by casual matric even vigil can be decent actually

[willow nymph]

No i mean that enemies lose 30% of their dps when blocked by otters

[hot rampart]

[willow nymph]

Which is significant as hell

And not just some hurr it's cc thing

[hot rampart]

i dont see how that is better than bringing an actual operator as a blocker

with actual skills

[willow nymph]

You get to buy enough time to redeploy your surtr

Poggers

Also as for real skill s2 mayer is just the best low altitude hovering counter in the game by far

No one comes close

[hot rampart]

magallan slow is potent but she just slows or well "bind"

[willow nymph]

Idk many operators that are usable as hell unraised

[hot rampart]

still require 2 deployment at least for said slow or u just having magallan for just the slow i doubt thats like reasonable

[willow nymph]

Apart from kafka mag

[willow nymph]

Caster range for slows is aight
If you build her it's 1 deploy slot always w mod

[hot rampart]

thats the thing u raised her for

some slow

[willow nymph]

Dont really need to cover more than 15 tiles ever

"Some slow"

[hot rampart]

the upside i can really see her niche is the fact that her drones has camo

[willow nymph]

If you're casual you dont need niche fillers you need to be able to deal with everything by throwing 6* at it

[hot rampart]

yeah thats the plan

[willow nymph]

What's better than crowd control to cycle back other 6* s3

[hot rampart]

which is why mag is mid

[willow nymph]

Camo cc is strong

No matter what

You just block 9 tiles anywhere

And enemies can do jakc about it

Jeez i wonder why this ines character is so liked

[hot rampart]

casuals dont see upside in stalling unless said stalling comes with

some sort of damage

yeah becuz ines has

surprise surprise

amazing dps

[willow nymph]

Ines damage is dog

It s amazing for a vanguard

[hot rampart]

when its dog

she can print dp

!!!

she is the very epitome that cant be bad in any given situation

[willow nymph]

Yes she does everything useful

[hot rampart]

mag u just bind thats it what else u want from her

[willow nymph]

Make dp
Cc while invisible

[hot rampart]

damage? bring an actual operator

and u lose out on her slow when equipping s2/s3

it doesnt come "together" at the same time

[willow nymph]

S3 skalter s2 mag is some terribly funny niche output

It outdps any combos of 2ops

[willow nymph]

Wait poggers i think i can use logos

On cn

[fluid verge]

That's actually a fun challenge

[hallow garnet]

literally nobody knows this

i'd wager less than 5% of the playerbase uses mag or mayer

ling is probably rarely used too

summoners just arent as "fun" to the general player

not flashy shit

everybody wants big boom bomba stuff

if u think the average player will play anything else than the usual flagpipe+whatever blocker/mountain/thorns/surtr/mlynar/sexas stuff

then ur coping

heck im not even that casual but even i never cared for mag or mayer

i do use ling sometimes

[fluid verge]

If summons didn't cost deployment slots

[tardy vigil]

they cost deployment slots?

thats so bad, I would never use them

[hot rampart]

to some extent their module does make 1 summon not consume a deployment slot

[hallow garnet]

to me summoners only have use when i have limited team slots

otherwise i'd rather use units i like

[civic linden]

i think i can beat this withou yato

[violet vortex]

Nice

Did you use Carn + Elysium to kill both drones at some point or was it a slow grind

[civic linden]

nah drones were killed mostly by virtuosa with dorothy/gnosis/ines finishing off the second one

carnellian is there just to kill the second car

if you time s3 correctly she ends up killing the sawblades right as they spawn so she doesn't need to worry about the drone that spawns at the same time

elysium is on skill 1, so it's just for dp

[wanton stratus]

Wtf is this

I’m too to even comprehend

[civic linden]

https://youtu.be/OxAs8XHWfIs

most of the strat was taken from this video

i had to make some changes to compensate for not having ceobe tho

[wanton stratus]

Oh

[violet vortex]

I did the lame double bladeworks

Honestly the map becomes significantly easier when you just use 1 Ines deploy to take out the fire guys

[hallow garnet]

no shame in that

and yes ines is mvp

[mossy tinsel]

I can finally chat here!

Discord shitting the bed as usual.

[tardy vigil]

This supah video is the most narrow brain content imaginable

• instructor is good, it is a buff
• nerd is bad, it is a debuff

[hot rampart]

told ya

[tardy vigil]

Why no instructor guards are good? must be a 5 year coincidence

[hot rampart]

its like cherrypicking stuff

[hot rampart]

they just dont have good numbers despite already having a 1.2 atk multiplier

[tardy vigil]

It isn't cherry picking imo, it's just ignoring everything about game design and looking at "class trait description"

[hot rampart]

i mean that is cherry picking

cherry : trait

[tardy vigil]

They are terrible because it's a bad gameplay pattern that no one needs

[hot rampart]

their numbers are basically split in half for the sake of the other half is suppose to buff nearby operators

[tardy vigil]

It isn't cherry, it's the topic of the video, but...

[hot rampart]

video is ice cream chery is trait fr fr

[tardy vigil]

It's such a dumb topic

[mossy tinsel]

Maybe that's why Supah calls himself the most hated Arknights YouTuber.

[hot rampart]

he will never beat tectone

[mossy tinsel]

Oh no.

[tardy vigil]

Literally 95% of playerbase:
Uhh, instructors stand behind operators and do damage+buffs, like a teacher behind student. That sounds useless, there are damage and buffs without so much restraint

Supah: I see 0 ideas, I see trait text

[mossy tinsel]

Tectone stopped being a part of AK in general, why bring him up?

[tardy vigil]

Objectively supah won

[hot rampart]

2 weeks ago or something he suddenly post a reddit post shitting on AK in the AK subreddit

people were just confused why the fuck he even bother to do that

[mossy tinsel]

That's weird, I thought he was over AK.

[tardy vigil]

He's petty

[hot rampart]

he's petty

[tardy vigil]

He is mostly over AK, but something got in his head and he remembered

[mossy tinsel]

Yeah. I can see the pettiness in his videos.

[tardy vigil]

It's like an old wound that never healed

Have you guys heard of Tyler1?

[mossy tinsel]

Kinda.

[hot rampart]

dreadnought and brawler has the same trait btw

[tardy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-screaming-scream-angry-anger-gif-20387881

[mossy tinsel]

Yeah. That dude.

[hot rampart]

i remember he started playing dota when riot banned him from LoL

[tardy vigil]

I find the difference between him and tectone striking.
Both are bold angry salty sarcastic and mean on stream, yet out of stream everyone says Tyler 1 is the most wholesome fella

[hot rampart]

always see tyler1 as that kinda dude who overreacts on stream kinda thing

putting up an act

[tardy vigil]

And does try to get some sigma wisdom and encourage people on a grindset

[mossy tinsel]

I think Tyler just acts like that in his streams for entertainment purposes.

[tardy vigil]

It defo is a persona

[hot rampart]

content creators do be like that

some got way into it and gets impostor syndrome tho

[tardy vigil]

There is ingenuity, but he leaves the most toxic part behind when leaving the gaming desk

Tectone is a literal redditor

Who doesn't grow up at all

[hot rampart]

i never see any irl issue with tyler1 yeah

meanwhile tectone u saw his wife living him

[tardy vigil]

I see him on any talk show/podcast/dialogue and it's same shit

[tardy vigil]

It's just how he speaks to everyone

I don't want to get into his marriage, we don't know shit about insides

[hot rampart]

tectone is definitely up his ass

[tardy vigil]

But the public shit is public.
And it ain't looking good

[hot rampart]

its like genshin getting popular

but he already build a decent size fanbase

from AK

initially

then jumps straight into genshin

lightning in a bottle moment

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/ArknightsEN/status/1800772023331029132?t=JmxQ0-zHKbTEZxpecTotpA&s=19

[ebon sphinx]

the thing about tyler1 is that behind everything, his dedication to his own goals are genuine

whether it's chess or getting to a top rank in every role of LoL...

in contrast, Forsen is known to be dedicated but I also think...he doesn't improve at all in LoL

like I know one streamer that's routinely made fun of who's stuck in Emerald for a few reasons but mechanically that streamer is leagues and tiers above Forsen

[sharp tartan]

have you seen his interaction with faker its the most non tyler1 thing ever

[ebon sphinx]

I'd think it'd take a massive amount of balls and ego to be toxic to Faker in LoL

[sharp tartan]

true

[tardy vigil]

No, but I've seen his other interactions

[tardy vigil]

You should watch faker stream

Literally half Korean soloq

[hot rampart]

https://fxtwitter.com/mutomorokoshi/status/1800745972940873924?s=19

[violet vortex]

I don’t know the context but imagine if doctor was able to look that cool

[hot rampart]

one of the gunknight raised her from a young age, basically a father figure

[ebon sphinx]

the gunknights kind of treat her as a young daughter figure

they fully expect her to be like the first non Sankta gunknight

[violet vortex]

Well idk if the bird is capable of being that cool either

An uphill battle

[hot rampart]

all soldiers look same when they wear the cool looking armors

[ebon sphinx]

she's never allowed to be cool considering its a departmental sport for them to give silly codenames for her

[fluid verge]

🙏

[hot rampart]

skin when

[mental robin]

Conclusion. The difficulty lies in the damn Rovers

[hot rampart]

are u artanis , kirei , vince

[mental robin]

Yes. Why

[hot rampart]

weird

is your other acc compromised or something

[mental robin]

Yes. The scammers have gotten craftier

At early morning no less

[ebon sphinx]

one more dailies then its over...

personally i dont like CC events particularly because its...mainly additional dailies

[hallow garnet]

it's not even daily

it's once per 3 days

if u cant be assed to manual one stage every 3 days then why r u playing

[hot rampart]

to play more IS obviously

[ebon sphinx]

i refer to them as 'dailies' yes even if its not daily like old CC

[tardy vigil]

I like the dailies!

even tho I dont normally manual a stage once per 3 days

[tardy vigil]

Top operator, finally

Could have taken ifrit, but this one looked nicer

[ebon sphinx]

you dont have Ifrit?

this is awkward

...to be honest i am just a bit lost on how to break the news to you

[hallow garnet]

wrong choice

but issokay

play how u want ig

you can get ifrit next time

[willow nymph]

it would be so good if they changed it every time

instead of only adding 1 new every time

[wanton stratus]

Wow

The constant Haze cope of “I don’t have Ifrit” and then when she appears you pick mostima instead

You’re a hoot

[willow nymph]

he's gonna mod 3 and then say TOKI O TOMARE

[wanton stratus]

Mostima is really gonna help with 620 here

[civic linden]

raising mostima for slow
raiaing mostima for +0,6/s caster sp talent

[wanton stratus]

Now Haze can get even more skill 2s in

And hold on

[willow nymph]

it's .4

[wanton stratus]

It’s +0,4sp/sec

Damn

[willow nymph]

.6 is modless carne

1. is mod3 carne

.35 is ptilo mod3

[civic linden]

https://youtu.be/XGqOkrCPl0g?si=Y9tfLs5HXkcx5W6N

[wanton stratus]

I’m dead

💀

[ebon sphinx]

you brought that upon yourself tbh...

[wanton stratus]

6+ people in AKO told him to pick Ifrit
1 person said to pick Mostima for endgame and Ifrit is he was a casual

[wanton stratus]

Did you watch the video? It has to be one of the greatest clears I’ve seen

[ebon sphinx]

max pot, hm figures

oh

[wanton stratus]

[ebon sphinx]

its near midnight and i hate to mention this so many times in so many places but i am technically still down with a cold

my cognitive function is impaired

[wanton stratus]

Calling it a “clear” was a bit misleading on my part

No worries mate

[tardy vigil]

it was a 50/50 anyway

I couldnt resist the gamba

[ebon sphinx]

Caster and Top Op? hmm

[tardy vigil]

it was defender, debuff, aoe, robot

[willow nymph]

can't you guarantee with debuff

[tardy vigil]

I could have guaranteed

(but I really hate ifrit range)

[willow nymph]

it's really good

and rarely inconvenient

[tardy vigil]

Freudian slip

[willow nymph]

full range = no need for blocker
1 tile = outdps aoe casters

[tardy vigil]

I am sure mostima will also do smth useful

Slows the movement speed of enemies within this unit's attack range by 30%; Slows the movement speed of enemies outside this unit's attack range by 18% (unaffected by skill)

ok this was more useless then I expected

but I dont need "yet another dps" really

[ebon sphinx]

it actually gets a bit ridiculous once she gets her mod

...well, only a bit

[civic linden]

well look at it on the bright side

more sp for your lin

and mostima can do some really funny cheese strats sometimes

[hot rampart]

s3m3 and mod3 just to make her a glorified supporter

[tardy vigil]

it probably dont stack with ptylopsis

[willow nymph]

doesn't indeed

[wanton stratus]

Glorified Disgraced Supporter

[hot rampart]

at least she do have that glorified niche slow that even affect enemies invulnerable phase (like some boss bkb going into 2nd phase)

and invisible enemies

https://x.com/Nhim_Art/status/1800912706121379932?t=TtF_WNbapU6h0jfxgrQobQ&s=19

Nhim (@Nhim_Art) on X

Doctor Browse the Internet.

#Arknights #アークナイツ #明日方舟

Twitter · Jun 12, 2024, 3:27 PM

[willow nymph]

wrong hot sarkaz

wer is ladies

[ebon sphinx]

why does Doktah even need to click that link considering its factually true there are hot sarkaz in the area

[willow nymph]

it was to make closure come

and technically boom

hot sarkaz in your room

[hot rampart]

yeah it did bring in closure

[mossy tinsel]

All according to plan.

[willow nymph]

hey a random q but does anyone have s2m3 amiya to put on supp

[mossy tinsel]

I maxed out Weedy's module.

https://tenor.com/view/weedy-arknights-gif-19831744

[wanton stratus]

Based

[tough matrix]

my face when 1p relay

[hot rampart]

u can solo with typhon tho

[tough matrix]

oh, you can do it?

on max risk?

idk why, but I can't do it

[tardy vigil]

Attack Range increases, attacks turn into ripples that spread outward, ATK +170%, increases the effect of the second talent by 3x, and attacks knock targets back slightly

• The Force Level of the Shift is 0 (Weak)

is this a micro stun?

that bosses arent immune to

[wanton stratus]

Bosses ARE immune by having massive weight

Generally speaking

[tardy vigil]

do they get micro stunned?

[wanton stratus]

Their weight is too high to be pushed by 0 force

What skill is that btw?

[tardy vigil]

3

[tough matrix]

oh yeah

[tardy vigil]

mostima s3

[wanton stratus]

I see

0 force is only enough to push mobs

[tardy vigil]

uuuuh, I noticed a funny number in the top left corner

guess it is unplayable

second time

[wanton stratus]

She does come with built-in sp regen

Wdym second time

[tardy vigil]

first cast only need 30 sp

[tardy vigil]

work really well with ptilopsis

[wanton stratus]

It doesn’t stack, and you know it

[tardy vigil]

I do

it was sarcasm

[wanton stratus]

No

[tardy vigil]

casting prilopsis skill 2 second time rarely works

[wanton stratus]

So true

Still, Mostima’s S3 has shorter charge time from 0 SP than Silverash’s S3, for example

Not bad for year 0 standards

If she dealt good damage lol

[tardy vigil]

I dont have year 0 standards

[wanton stratus]

I noticed

[wanton stratus]

Now show me the section about Ifrit

[tardy vigil]

all green

besides range

[wanton stratus]

I wonder when that article is from

I don’t think anyone would describe her damage as high nowadays

[hot rampart]

its here

bad rng will make u leak 1 enemy shielder

[tough matrix]

ic

[hot rampart]

otherwise with attackspeed + attackbuff she solos

[willow nymph]

that's release old comments

she had mid damage on release

now her damage is so bad she's only a crowd controller

[wanton stratus]

This time it was I

This is one of the worst showcases I have ever seen
https://youtu.be/eTZ115ookMQ?si=FLTIorLQkMLjaf5O

[hallow garnet]

next time ask us before picking xd

unless ur ded set on a waifu pick

cuz we dont argue with that

[willow nymph]

doesn't compare with other mod

💀

every one has the other mod equipped

i can find like 5 mod Y or w/e the letter was on my fl

tldr is that the elem damage mod does more damage 99% of cases but that the other mod doesn't really do much less damage

[tardy vigil]

chat was dead

[wanton stratus]

Someone linked a bilibili showcase which compared S3 with mod X vs mod Delta against various bosses and literally the only boss where is made a significant difference was Manfred

[willow nymph]

yeah both mods are baiscally the same

Delta is significantly better for mobs that have enough hp to proc ed but ifrit never had problems with those either way

[wanton stratus]

Indeed

Meanwhile she need 2-3 S3 uses to proc elemental burst once on most bosses

Ain’t no way my burst window gonna be that long bruh

[willow nymph]

yeah that's what happens when you're not logos with 100k+ total damage s3

[willow nymph]

yeah but the damage buff and uptime from other mod are irrelevant

so it doesn't matter

~~also warmy synergy ~~

i think it's just due to shittier stats and the fact better shred helps for bosses she can't proc on anyway

[wanton stratus]

Using S3 on normal enemies and elites just feels wrong

And she’s never gonna proc with S2 unless they’re tanky af

[willow nymph]

you do know it's damage based

so it procs

[wanton stratus]

I would like to see a comparison of S2 with both mods

[willow nymph]

enemies need 12k5 hp for it to proc (count 15k for it to actually do damage)

which is surprisingly more commmon

[wanton stratus]

Lmao

How many S2 uses is that

[willow nymph]

dunno calc it

but if the enemy has sub 10k hp it just dies

so p irrelevant

[wanton stratus]

More SP gen from mod X also means more S2 uses

So

Is Mod X just better

[willow nymph]

sp lockout says hello

[wanton stratus]

Wut

Does she have SP lockout?

I thought that didn’t apply to skills with multiple charges

[willow nymph]

if you cast s2 twice in a row talent will fail

[wanton stratus]

Damn

Shit game design

[willow nymph]

so yeah

that mod suck

it doesn't give nearly as much sp as it should

[wanton stratus]

I guess I just have to cope for Mod Y or more burn synergy

[willow nymph]

yeah elem damage will come

and under burn the damage up is huge

like